• [00:03:25] <ggreer> angstrom was a lot easier to get working, and cat /proc/cpuinfo gives me twice the bogomips
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  • [00:28:00] <djlewis> bogomips, umm, eat em for breakfast :)
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  • [00:37:27] <ggreer> what's the angstrom package that installs man?
  • [00:51:33] <djlewis> ggreer: here, type man in the search box, scroll down to man, click on man
  • [00:51:37] <djlewis> ggreer: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/
  • [00:53:30] <djlewis> actually you dont have to click on man, it tells you right beside it
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  • [01:18:12] <ggreer> I see it there, but opkg info man gives me nothing
  • [01:18:18] <ggreer> and opkg install man says the package doesn't exist
  • [01:18:41] <ggreer> I guess there's no version for the beagleboard's architecture?
  • [01:20:08] <djlewis> ggreer: it is part of the base package
  • [01:21:04] <djlewis> it would be in demo and you might have to select it in narcissus
  • [01:23:52] <ggreer> ok, but how do I install it with opkg?
  • [01:32:37] <djlewis> are you running a narcissus image?
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  • [01:39:27] <ggreer> yes. I built two of them. one was pretty stripped down. one has x11
  • [01:39:29] <ggreer> neither have man
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  • [02:33:29] <GeniusGeeko> Anybody willing to help?
  • [02:35:13] <mru> if you want help, perhaps calling yourself genius isn't the smartest move :)
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  • [02:41:08] <GeniusGeeko> Haha, I just use it for everything.
  • [02:41:22] <GeniusGeeko> BeagleBoard is something I am pretty new with.
  • [02:44:19] <mru> well, ask your question
  • [02:44:26] <mru> with luck, someone will know the answer
  • [02:45:56] <GeniusGeeko> I have tried to create a successful booting sd card. Everytime I follow this guide, http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/HowToGetAngstromRunning , it never boots up. I am using the C4 board.
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  • [03:08:12] <pupnik> ;hmm
  • [03:08:20] <pupnik> ty for the link GeniusGeeko
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  • [03:40:22] <ggreer> when I try to run startx on a booted narcissus image, I get this: /usr/bin/startx: line 183:
  • [03:40:22] <ggreer> /OE/angstrom-dev/sysroots/x86_64-linux/usr/bin/mcookie: not found
  • [03:40:31] <ggreer> I edited startx but now it complains that xauth is missing
  • [03:40:55] <ggreer> I checked the x11 option when building this image, and I selected xfce as the wm
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  • [03:43:44] <parimal> hi i tried rowboats prebuilt image of android on xm but it is not booting and board also is getting heated, can anyone tell me about a working port of android for xm
  • [03:43:58] <ggreer> oh and /usr/bin/X doesn't exist
  • [03:50:52] <ggreer> other people have had this same problem on the mailing lists but have never been answered
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  • [03:51:06] <ggreer> like this guy: http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/angstrom-distro-users/2010-October/003418.html
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  • [03:51:21] <ggreer> and this guy: http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/angstrom-distro-users/2010-November/003461.html
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  • [03:59:52] <pupnik> hullo good luck ggreer
  • [03:59:57] <ggreer> :/
  • [04:00:08] <pupnik> i have had some startx experience
  • [04:00:43] <ggreer> I'm betting narcissus is building bad images
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  • [04:02:00] <pupnik> /OE/angstrom-dev/sysroots/x86_64-linux << that's on your beagleboard device?
  • [04:02:33] <ggreer> no, but /usr/bin/startx wanted to execute that file
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  • [04:14:25] <djlewis> ggreer: to use narcissus is to know what you need from it.
  • [04:15:54] <ggreer> umm??? I selected x11 and xfce and it gave files trying to execute stuff that's clearly in the wrong path
  • [04:16:30] <djlewis> some people get it right the first time while others dont.
  • [04:16:37] <djlewis> I am in the others don't category
  • [04:16:53] <ggreer> djlewis: is there a known-good image instead of these customized broken ones?
  • [04:17:58] <djlewis> ggreer: ewhat do you wish to accomplish with your BB?
  • [04:18:24] <ggreer> I want a gui with a browser
  • [04:19:06] <djlewis> like this? http://www.sakoman.com/
  • [04:19:52] <djlewis> his builds get you straight into a full system.
  • [04:21:35] <ggreer> seems close enough. does that distro have a package manager?
  • [04:21:45] <djlewis> As I have no need to build systems iit is what I like to use.
  • [04:21:50] <djlewis> opkg
  • [04:21:58] <djlewis> its Angstrom underneath
  • [04:22:02] <ggreer> ah
  • [04:22:49] <djlewis> you can use the provided script that will setup your sd card properly and download and install the os to it
  • [04:23:16] <djlewis> then boot. first boot takes longer as it does lots of configuration
  • [04:23:41] <djlewis> lots longer
  • [04:23:48] <djlewis> but after, it is sweet
  • [04:24:21] <ggreer> thanks
  • [04:24:23] <ggreer> I'll check it out
  • [04:25:21] <djlewis> I build apps locally on my BB and that build is all ready for me
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  • [06:00:20] <ggreer> why did this kernel cut my cpu speed in half?
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  • [09:22:09] <speakman> anyone running accelerated Qt on Beagle?
  • [09:23:14] <dm8tbr> harbaum does
  • [09:23:30] <dm8tbr> there is also a test image he did
  • [09:23:48] <speakman> that would be really interresting!
  • [09:24:16] <dm8tbr> go to meego.openaos.org
  • [09:24:31] <dm8tbr> note they are not official meego
  • [09:25:11] <speakman> Oh, I almosed missed that ;DD
  • [09:25:23] <speakman> almost...
  • [09:26:40] <speakman> Which file system is it?
  • [09:27:00] <speakman> Or is it a complete flash image?
  • [09:27:52] <speakman> I'm not using the exact Beagleboard, but a board which I think is based pretty much on AM3517EVM
  • [09:27:54] <dm8tbr> ah, we're in # beagle. cough
  • [09:28:01] <speakman> :D
  • [09:28:16] <speakman> I believe it's very similar to Beagle though
  • [09:28:23] <dm8tbr> sorry my n900 doesn't show it that well
  • [09:28:36] <dm8tbr> angstrom works better
  • [09:28:38] <speakman> show what..?
  • [09:28:59] <dm8tbr> the channel I'm currently using
  • [09:29:03] <speakman> oh
  • [09:29:37] <speakman> on what channel did you think you were? :D
  • [09:29:46] <dm8tbr> thought I was in #meego
  • [09:29:57] <speakman> oh :D:D
  • [09:30:07] <dm8tbr> its the next window in my irssi
  • [09:30:14] <speakman> I see
  • [09:31:24] <speakman> having >26 channels open in my Irssi it's easy confusing current channel
  • [09:33:23] <dm8tbr> trying to keep window count below 100 ;)
  • [09:33:51] <speakman> :D
  • [09:34:37] <speakman> but anyway, is Qt on AM3517 discussed in #meego? Maybe I could get some hint in there?
  • [09:36:09] <dm8tbr> what's that?
  • [09:38:02] <dm8tbr> ah sitara
  • [09:38:43] <dm8tbr> i guess it has sgx?
  • [09:39:57] <speakman> yes
  • [09:41:18] <dm8tbr> which core is it? and which revision?
  • [09:42:07] <speakman> Processor : ARMv7 Processor rev 7 (v7l)
  • [09:42:27] <speakman> BogoMIPS : 499.92
  • [09:42:27] <speakman> Features : swp half thumb fastmult vfp edsp neon vfpv3
  • [09:42:54] <dm8tbr> no i meant sgx
  • [09:43:24] <speakman> how can I tell?
  • [09:44:16] <dm8tbr> I'd google but I'm in a meeting and my N900 is not that ideal for this
  • [09:44:27] <koen> 3517 has an sgx
  • [09:44:37] <koen> I wouldn't use it for qt, though
  • [09:44:46] <speakman> really? why?
  • [09:44:59] <koen> unless you only QGLwidgets, it's going to be slower than plain old sw rendering
  • [09:45:18] <speakman> really? how come?
  • [09:45:27] <speakman> I'm mostly into QtWebKit
  • [09:45:29] <koen> the sgx has no 2d block
  • [09:45:33] <speakman> ok
  • [09:45:41] <koen> and the shader code (if any) in qt sucks
  • [09:45:46] <speakman> ok
  • [09:46:04] <speakman> What's the "proper" way to run Qt on 3517 then?
  • [09:46:13] <koen> the current qt design will use the sgx for everything, instead of only QGLwidget
  • [09:46:13] <speakman> just pure unaccelerated fb?
  • [09:46:18] <koen> right
  • [09:46:31] <koen> in angstrom you can choose between qt/e and qt/x11
  • [09:46:41] * av500 still has to boot his AM3517...
  • [09:46:53] <speakman> and qt/e is pure unaccelerated?
  • [09:47:51] <speakman> are there any performance increase with the qt/x11 choice?
  • [09:48:03] * speakman needs to give ??ngstr??m a try sometime...
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  • [09:54:08] <speakman> Unrelated facts; "??ngstr??m" is the 0.1 nanometre Unit named by the swedish physicist Anders Jonas ??ngstr??m, which happened to be born just in this small locality where I am right now. :)
  • [09:57:51] <speakman> koen: this performance boost will not be achived with the 3517? http://labs.qt.nokia.com/2008/10/22/so-long-and-thanks-for-the-blit/
  • [10:10:05] <koen> it won't
  • [10:10:15] <koen> with any omap3
  • [10:10:25] <koen> maybe after lighthouse gets merged
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  • [10:29:11] <speakman> koen: I see. Thanks alot for telling
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  • [11:16:24] <HS8JCV> Hi
  • [11:17:55] <HS8JCV> Anyone know how to build new kernel for xM Board.?
  • [11:18:53] <HS8JCV> I try to use follow this.bitbake virtual/kernel -c clean
  • [11:19:12] <HS8JCV> bitbake virtual/kernel -c clean
  • [11:19:20] <HS8JCV> bitbake virtual/kernel -c configure
  • [11:19:40] <HS8JCV> bitbake virtual/kernel -c menuconfig
  • [11:19:49] <woglinde> HS8JCV what dont works?
  • [11:20:03] <HS8JCV> than It not show menu for config kernel.
  • [11:22:34] <HS8JCV> Hi woglinde
  • [11:22:35] <HS8JCV> I try to make new kernel.
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  • [11:22:35] <woglinde> go to the tmp/work/ dir and call make menuconfig your self
  • [11:22:35] <woglinde> dont forget ARCH=arm
  • [11:22:35] <HS8JCV> make without bitbake right?
  • [11:22:35] <woglinde> yes
  • [11:22:35] <woglinde> afterwards copy the .config
  • [11:22:44] <HS8JCV> Where copy .config to?
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  • [11:23:50] <woglinde> defconfig in the right recpies/linux/linux-bla dir
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  • [11:25:45] <HS8JCV> copy .config in kernel folder replace to recipes/linux/linux-omap-2.6.37/beagleboard/deconfig
  • [11:25:55] <HS8JCV> right?
  • [11:28:24] <woglinde> if you are using .37 than yes
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  • [11:34:15] <HS8JCV> How to next step.?
  • [11:34:31] <woglinde> bitbake virtual/kernel -c clean
  • [11:34:34] <woglinde> bitbake virtual/kernel
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  • [11:39:31] <HS8JCV> Thank you woglinde.
  • [11:39:47] <HS8JCV> I will try and tell result to you.
  • [11:39:58] <Robin_Watts> Hi all. I've got my shiny new beagleboard xm now, and I'm trying to run the same version of angstrom on it that I was running on my borrowed earlier beagleboard.
  • [11:41:15] <Robin_Watts> Now it seems that whenever I ping it, I get an 'alignment trap' message on the console. Anyone know about this ?
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  • [11:41:56] <aholler> echo 2 > /proc/cpu/alignment and you won't see this again
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  • [11:42:04] <aholler> even if it is still there
  • [11:42:18] <Robin_Watts> aholler: Thanks.
  • [11:42:50] <Robin_Watts> Also, the ethernet port on the xM - is it really just an onboard usb device ?
  • [11:43:21] <HS8JCV> Yes Robin.
  • [11:43:56] <Robin_Watts> And does it invent a mac address every time it boots ?
  • [11:50:36] <woglinde> Robin_Watts yes but you can fix it with module-parameter
  • [11:51:00] <Robin_Watts> woglinde: Any pointers to an idiots guide to doing that would be much appreciated.
  • [11:51:01] <woglinde> ot buildin and cmdline
  • [11:51:18] <woglinde> Robin_Watts hm sorry no read the sourcefile
  • [11:51:28] <woglinde> of the smc driver
  • [11:51:41] <woglinde> maybee there is some guide but I dont kno
  • [11:51:42] <woglinde> w
  • [11:51:45] <aholler> modinfo module should help
  • [11:51:52] <HS8JCV> woglinde : I bitbake virtual/kernel got fatal error.
  • [11:52:02] <woglinde> HS8JCV pastebin?
  • [11:52:22] <Robin_Watts> woglinde, aholler, HS8JCV: Thanks.
  • [11:53:22] <HS8JCV> NOTE: package linux-omap-2.6.37-r99a+gitrfa3b4e23ec20cfc944db7cc2b30b0d82c20e4472: task do_compile_kernelmodules: Failed
  • [11:53:37] <woglinde> HS8JCV pastebin the log
  • [11:53:44] <woglinde> from tmp/work
  • [11:54:05] <HS8JCV> oh,I see
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  • [12:12:07] <orkun> hi everyone
  • [12:12:22] <orkun> i can use dvsdk4.0 on beagleboard
  • [12:12:26] <orkun> ?
  • [12:12:48] <woglinde> doesnt the doko of dvsdk4.0 tell you?
  • [12:14:34] <orkun> yes
  • [12:27:59] <koen> the things you need from the dvsdk are already in angstrom
  • [12:28:04] <koen> so no need for the dvsdk
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  • [12:35:03] <orkun> thanks i know it
  • [12:35:12] <orkun> but i want to use ubuntu in beagle
  • [12:35:29] <orkun> is there any chance?
  • [12:35:56] <orkun> koen also i have another important question
  • [12:36:29] <orkun> when i use angstrom with openembedded
  • [12:37:00] <orkun> can i be run codec working with dsp easily?
  • [12:38:07] <woglinde> what you mean?
  • [12:38:50] <koen> ubuntu will never support the dsp on omap3
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  • [12:42:24] <orkun> but i can run the dspbridge on ubuntu
  • [12:43:32] <orkun> ok i need to run codec like DM644x Codec Server
  • [12:43:51] <orkun> if i use angstrom, can i success this easily?
  • [12:43:53] <orkun> thanks
  • [12:49:30] <koen> angstrom supports codec-engine just fine
  • [12:49:42] <koen> the demo image even has the gstreamer plugins for that integrated and working
  • [12:51:45] <orkun> thanks you koen
  • [12:55:43] <av500> dspbridge and codec server dont go that well together
  • [12:56:26] <woglinde> hi av500
  • [12:56:57] <av500> hi woglinde
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  • [13:56:37] <bangLuce> hi. is there a tablet with performances comparable with beagleboard, where I can install ubuntu?
  • [13:56:38] <koen> hmmm, tegra3 increases the cores without neon comparted to tegra2
  • [13:56:48] <bangLuce> a cheap tablet
  • [13:57:02] <koen> why do you want to install ubuntu on something with the performance of beagle?
  • [13:57:12] <bangLuce> koen: why not?
  • [13:57:13] <koen> ubuntu needs a lot more performance :)
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  • [13:58:25] <ogra> koen, XM kind of works
  • [13:58:42] <ogra> i wouldnt use it on a C4 :)
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  • [14:06:30] <woglinde> what is cheap?
  • [14:08:01] <lwithers> hi, I have built an Angstrom image for my Beagleboard xM, but I am having trouble getting it to boot
  • [14:08:16] <lwithers> it seems the u-boot build worked just fine, but it's unable to boot the kernel
  • [14:08:46] <lwithers> does anybody have any idea where I can start to track this down?
  • [14:09:03] <lwithers> after executing "bootm 0x80300000", there is some (valid-looking) output from uboot, up to
  • [14:09:09] <lwithers> "Loading Kernel Image ... OK", then another OK
  • [14:09:20] <lwithers> then nothing (no "Uncompressing Linux...." message)
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  • [14:28:47] <lwithers> ok; it was u-boot that was the problem, as copying u-boot.bin from the validation image onto my own SD card has now allowed the system to boot
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  • [14:41:22] <Robin_Watts> Gents, anoter dumb question if I may. I've got to port ghostscript to an ARM9 based board. I have it working, but it's slow, presumably because of it's heavy FP use.
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  • [14:41:38] <Robin_Watts> If I build and run on the beagleboard it runs really fast.
  • [14:42:12] <Robin_Watts> Is it possible to 'disable' the FP on the beagleboard so that a profile on the beagleboard would look more like the ARM9 based board?
  • [14:43:24] <Robin_Watts> I've built with -msoft-float, but the time doesn't seem to slow down. I'd been warned that might be the case because the soft-float stuff will still call the hardware floating point unit if it's there.
  • [14:44:02] <mru> if you want softfloat, get a sheeva or something
  • [14:44:53] <Robin_Watts> mru: I have an ARM 9 board next to me. But the software stack contains no profiler.
  • [14:45:20] <Robin_Watts> I was wondering if there was a quick hack I could do to enable me to reuse the beagle.
  • [14:45:40] <ssvb> Robin_Watts: you just need -mfloat-abi=soft instead of of softfp, and to be extra sure I think you can disable VFP/NEON in the kernel
  • [14:46:18] <Robin_Watts> I used -msoft-float, which is supposed to == -mfloat-abi-soft
  • [14:46:38] <Robin_Watts> -mfloat-abi=soft, sorry.
  • [14:46:40] <ssvb> did you also recompile glibc?
  • [14:46:43] <faLUCE> 300-400 euros
  • [14:46:48] <Robin_Watts> I did not.
  • [14:47:21] <djlewis> oh, 300-400 euros sounds like a bargain :)
  • [14:47:32] <faLUCE> hi. is there a tablet with performances comparable with beagleboard, where I can install ubuntu?
  • [14:48:00] <djlewis> its called a netbook with atom
  • [14:49:00] <av500> faLUCE: for 300 you can buy an A101
  • [14:49:09] <av500> it has the same cpu as the XM
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  • [14:49:16] <ssvb> Robin_Watts: in order not to have any stray VFP instructions anywhere, you need to compile all the library dependencies using soft abi
  • [14:49:52] <koen> 'port' ghostscript?
  • [14:49:56] <Robin_Watts> ssvb: Yeah. But even so, I'd have expected to see some difference.
  • [14:49:57] <koen> sounds more like compiling
  • [14:50:03] <ssvb> Robin_Watts: just taking rootfs from your ARM9 board may do the job
  • [14:50:18] <mru> should work, yes
  • [14:50:21] <mru> with the beagle kernel
  • [14:50:33] <Robin_Watts> interesting idea, will try, thanks.
  • [14:51:05] <Robin_Watts> koen: I'm doing a custom device too.
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  • [14:53:54] <ssvb> koen: I guess he may want to convert some performance critical parts to use fixed point
  • [14:55:23] <ssvb> if this kind of activity deserves to be called 'port'
  • [14:58:31] <helo_> faLUCE: you can (mostly) run debian on the ~$150 flytouch 2
  • [14:59:24] <helo_> it has a 1GHz ARM cpu, but the kernel modifications haven't been released, so you can only modify userspace
  • [14:59:54] <helo_> i wouldn't recommend it heh
  • [15:00:11] <faLUCE> helo_: why you would not recommend it?
  • [15:00:11] <helo_> but it is very cheap and relatively fast
  • [15:00:37] <helo_> it is just difficult to do conventional GUI type things
  • [15:00:44] <av500> Touch: Single-point resistive
  • [15:00:55] <helo_> it has a framebuffer that you can draw to, and yes, it is resistive
  • [15:00:56] <av500> CPU: Infotmic X210 ARM11 @ 800MHz
  • [15:01:05] <helo_> and the sound quality is terrible
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  • [15:01:12] <av500> I dont call that fast
  • [15:02:25] <pupnik_> the 1Ghz OMap3 feels fast to me
  • [15:02:49] <helo_> depending on your application, it may be worth it... that's the lower end of capability and price
  • [15:03:00] <faLUCE> helo_: that's interesting. is there anything less (but not much less) cheap and more powerful linux compatible?
  • [15:03:22] <pupnik_> i bought the archos 7.0 tablet to hack with. i love it
  • [15:03:38] <helo_> or you can spend 5x the money and get a nice "av500 fast" tablet ;)
  • [15:03:55] <av500> helo_: no need for 5x
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  • [15:07:54] <mru> hmm, c6x compiler v7 is gone from download page
  • [15:08:04] <mru> _roger_: ^^ what's going on?
  • [15:08:44] <av500> they found out 1080p support is buggy
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  • [15:11:46] <_roger_> hey mru - dunno - will look
  • [15:11:51] <_roger_> thanks for the heads-up
  • [15:12:03] <mru> or did the downloads move without anyone telling?
  • [15:12:07] <mru> that would be so TI
  • [15:13:32] <_roger_> looks like they are still there :- https://www-a.ti.com/downloads/sds_support/TICodegenerationTools/download.htm
  • [15:13:45] <_roger_> which link were u using?
  • [15:13:48] <mru> so they moved
  • [15:14:15] <mru> https://www-a.ti.com/downloads/sds_support/CodeGenerationTools.htm
  • [15:14:23] <mru> strikingly similar url
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  • [15:14:38] <mru> it would be nice if the old pages redirected or had a link to the new ones
  • [15:14:45] * mru updates bookmarks
  • [15:15:10] <mru> or if these pages were possible to find without torturing some TI engineer to reveal the url
  • [15:15:57] <mru> and what of the arm compiler?
  • [15:17:14] <ggreer> I set up angstrom using narcissus, but my beagleboard xm only runs at 600mhz. the demo sd card runs the cpu at a full 1ghz
  • [15:17:21] <_roger_> mru : http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Main_Page ; Code Generation Tools ; Compiler Releases
  • [15:17:24] <ggreer> is there some kernel patch or something?
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  • [15:20:59] <djlewis> ggreer: boot.scr
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  • [15:22:52] <djlewis> set the mpurate (mpu rate) ? variable
  • [15:23:00] <djlewis> I think is how its done
  • [15:23:22] <ggreer> djlewis: I added mpurate=1000, and that seems to work, but I remember ubuntu running the cpu at 600-800mhz because of some instability
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  • [15:23:36] <ggreer> I guess we'll see if it breaks or something
  • [15:23:52] <djlewis> now you can heat your coffee with it ;)
  • [15:24:33] <ggreer> that's another problem. it's always running at 1ghz even though it should be able to dynamically switch frequencies
  • [15:24:45] <djlewis> ggreer: the build I linked last night would use the same setting
  • [15:25:25] <ggreer> is there any kernel that supports cpu frequency scaling?
  • [15:26:25] <koen> the angstrom one supports it
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  • [15:26:54] <ggreer> I'm running angstrom and it left my cpu at 600mhz
  • [15:27:05] <koen> your point being?
  • [15:28:21] <ggreer> I don't want to sound rude, but I'll believe powertop before I believe someone on irc
  • [15:28:51] <koen> your loss
  • [15:29:31] <ggreer> I built the image with narcissus last night. it definitely does not scale the cpu
  • [15:29:45] <ggreer> it pegs it at 600mhz, as if it was an original beagleboard
  • [15:30:22] <koen> and you are using the uImage locate in /boot in that image?
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  • [15:30:47] * ggreer triple-checks
  • [15:31:02] <koen> ggreer: maybe you should also check who created narcissus, angstrom and built that kernel
  • [15:31:09] <koen> maybe then you won't be so rude
  • [15:31:55] <ggreer> yes
  • [15:32:08] <ggreer> I'm using the uimage from /boot. md5sums match
  • [15:32:42] <koen> and what do 'cpufreq-info' say?
  • [15:32:54] <koen> and 'uname -a'?
  • [15:33:13] <ggreer> it's booting. give it a minute
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  • [15:34:37] <ggreer> cpufreq-info doesn't exist. I'm installing cpufrequtils
  • [15:34:56] <ggreer> Linux wearable 2.6.32 #3 PREEMPT Wed Jan 19 09:57:04 CET 2011 armv7l GNU/Linux
  • [15:36:12] <ggreer> http://pastebin.com/f1WLRsxR
  • [15:36:19] <ggreer> ^^ output of cpufreq-info
  • [15:36:52] <ggreer> but that's because my boot args specify mpurate=1000
  • [15:37:04] <ggreer> if I remove that line. it gets stuck at 600mhz, no matter how busy or idle the cpu is
  • [15:37:13] <koen> and?
  • [15:37:24] <koen> look at line 13 of your paste
  • [15:37:45] <ggreer> cpufreq-set -g ondemand
  • [15:38:14] <ggreer> please tell me how I was supposed to figure out that I needed to install that package and run that command
  • [15:38:44] <ggreer> nobody else in this channel seemed to know :/
  • [15:39:00] <koen> 16:24 < ggreer> is there any kernel that supports cpu frequency scaling?
  • [15:39:00] <koen> 16:25 < koen> the angstrom one supports it
  • [15:39:07] <koen> you asked if it supported scaling
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  • [15:39:15] <koen> which it does
  • [15:40:14] <ggreer> but it doesn't enable it by default!
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  • [15:40:36] <koen> it does
  • [15:40:50] <koen> you mean "automatic scaling"
  • [15:40:57] <koen> which is something different entirely
  • [15:41:18] <ggreer> ondemand governor is a good default
  • [15:41:19] <ggreer> not userspace
  • [15:41:52] <ggreer> I've spent days scouring mailing lists trying to figure out this stuff. poor defaults really annoy me (like wtf is with startx trying to exec /OE/angstrom-dev/sysroots/x86_64-linux/usr/bin/mcookie?)
  • [15:41:58] * av500 likes userspace
  • [15:43:02] <djlewis> hmm, my canadian links are not working today
  • [15:44:05] <koen> ggreer: why is ondemand a good default when dss cuts out when scaling down?
  • [15:44:22] <koen> ggreer: unless you have fixed that locally?
  • [15:44:26] <ggreer> it does?
  • [15:44:54] <ggreer> with regards to the x thing, at least 2 others have had the same problem as me: http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/angstrom-distro-users/2010-October/003418.html http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/angstrom-distro-users/2010-November/003461.html
  • [15:45:29] <ggreer> I had to edit /usr/bin/startx, then install a bunch of missing packages and kernel modules
  • [15:47:06] <av500> koen: dss does what?
  • [15:47:51] <av500> koen: you scale the sdram speed too?
  • [15:48:05] <ggreer> video
  • [15:48:39] <djlewis> ggreer: you will need one of these for higher cpu clock rates. http://imagebin.org/134138
  • [15:49:07] <av500> djlewis: you mounted it wrong
  • [15:49:23] <djlewis> av500: wasnt much work space ;)
  • [15:49:44] <djlewis> its got a big glob of heat transfer gook :)
  • [15:49:58] <av500> djlewis: less is more
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  • [16:04:48] <koen> av500: there's a constraint on dss and clocks, but that isn't coded yet, so if dss just shuts down after a FIFO error
  • [16:05:00] <koen> av500: you can get it up again without reboot, but it's annoying
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  • [16:05:31] <av500> koen: I am still confused, what happens to dss when?
  • [16:06:35] <koen> if you scale down to e.g. 125MHz the dss kernel driver doesn't catch up, gets a FIFO error and shuts down
  • [16:06:51] <koen> there is an email thread on l-o from last week about it
  • [16:06:56] <ggreer> lowest speed available is 300mhz, so it should be fine, right?
  • [16:07:59] <ggreer> oh, older models have a 125mhz option
  • [16:08:47] <av500> koen: oh ic
  • [16:09:02] <av500> i'm just wondering if I have ever seen that
  • [16:09:08] <av500> on 34xx
  • [16:09:20] <koen> av500: it can be worked around, but needs some changes in dss2
  • [16:09:35] <koen> and tomba wasn't sure how to do those properly
  • [16:09:50] <av500> koen: thread subject?
  • [16:10:14] <koen> I think it was in the hwmod thread
  • [16:10:16] <koen> let me look
  • [16:11:14] <koen> RE: [Query] OMAP: DSS2: Margin for downscaling in clock calculations
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  • [16:13:40] <av500> koen: hehe
  • [16:13:50] <av500> 1) I have patched this code already
  • [16:14:04] <av500> 2) does this also apply to using the DSI PLL?
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  • [16:15:47] <koen> for 2), yes since I'm seeing it as well :)
  • [16:16:33] <av500> hmm
  • [16:16:36] <av500> strange
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  • [16:34:29] <av500> yes
  • [16:34:56] <av500> cmem is outside of linux controlled mem
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  • [16:47:09] <ggreer> is there any way to reduce the amount of overscan on the beagleboard's s-video out? http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/ae5b11fe0194bc90 is the most useful thing I've found. I managed to fix the colors while playing with fbset, but I still can't get the overscan to be less
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  • [16:47:45] <av500> ggreer: ???
  • [16:48:48] <ggreer> I plug a TV into the beagleboard's s-video. the overscan is huge so large chunks of the screen are clipped off
  • [16:49:23] <av500> yes
  • [16:49:29] <av500> thats how PAL/NTSC work
  • [16:49:46] <ggreer> also whites were blue, but fbset -fb /dev/fb0 -rgba 5/11,6/5,5/0,0/0 fixed that
  • [16:49:46] <av500> some tvs crop more, some less
  • [16:50:00] <ggreer> umm??? but most hardware lets you adjust the amount of overscan
  • [16:50:02] <av500> you are running 16bit?
  • [16:50:11] <ggreer> I've tried both
  • [16:50:27] <av500> ggreer: the omap3 outputs either 720x480 or 720x576
  • [16:50:31] <av500> for NTSC or PAL
  • [16:50:37] <av500> that is the nominal resolution
  • [16:50:43] <av500> nothing to change there
  • [16:51:59] <ggreer> maybe I should just say what I want to do
  • [16:52:10] <ggreer> I want for the screen not to be clipped
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  • [16:52:27] <av500> so dont use all of it
  • [16:52:44] <ggreer> ok, so how do I tell the console or X to scale everything?
  • [16:52:45] <av500> like the broadcasteras do
  • [16:52:53] <av500> ggreer: that I dont know
  • [16:53:09] <av500> but that is not an omap3 hw feature question :)
  • [16:53:17] * av500 does not care for X
  • [16:53:56] <av500> what we did for android was to "lie" to android about the size of the framebuffer
  • [16:53:57] <ggreer> this is so frustrating. on my mac fixing this is as simple as checking a checkbox
  • [16:54:12] <pupnik_> ^^ what av500 said
  • [16:54:27] <pupnik_> your output will be 720xwhatever, and that's fixed, so just scale your image down
  • [16:54:28] <av500> and use suitable offsets to have the smaller area centered in the middle of the screen
  • [16:54:47] <av500> but I would not scale anything down, that will look ugly
  • [16:54:50] <ggreer> I know I need to scale the image down. _how_ do I scale it down?
  • [16:54:54] <av500> just give X less pixels to play with
  • [16:55:05] <ggreer> I don't care if it looks ugly. I just want to see the whole screen
  • [16:55:10] <ggreer> s-video is already ugly
  • [16:55:40] <av500> ggreer: X picks up the current resolution from /dev/fb or so
  • [16:55:50] <av500> and that is all the 720x480
  • [16:55:56] <av500> thats how X works afaik
  • [16:56:02] <av500> I have no idea what the "mac" does
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  • [16:56:35] <ggreer> I mean clearly an embedded device isn't going to be as easy to use as a mac, but the mac scales down the image to compensate for overscan
  • [16:56:43] <av500> even the C64 left a blank area around the screen to compensate overscan :)
  • [16:57:01] <av500> ggreer: I dont think X knows about how to do that
  • [16:57:35] <Ceriand|work> can't you change the horizontal overscan with VENC_SAVID_EAVID?
  • [16:58:19] <ggreer> a guy on google groups says he got overscan compensation working
  • [16:58:38] <ggreer> so I feel like I'm so close to figuring this out
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  • [16:59:36] <av500> ggreer: url?
  • [16:59:44] <ggreer> http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/ae5b11fe0194bc90
  • [17:00:36] <ggreer> running his script just garbles my screen. I'm betting we have different boot arguments
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  • [17:01:33] <av500> hmm
  • [17:02:04] <ggreer> and I'm in the US, so the ntsc timing should work
  • [17:02:16] <av500> what is your bootcmd?
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  • [17:03:39] <ggreer> setenv bootargs 'console=ttyS2,115200n8 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rw rootfstype=ext3 rootwait elevator=noop omapfb.mode=tv:ntsc omapdss.def_disp=tv mpurate=1000'
  • [17:03:40] <ggreer> setenv bootcmd 'fatload mmc 0 0x80300000 uImage; bootm 0x80300000'
  • [17:03:40] <ggreer> boot
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  • [17:04:28] <av500> I'm not sure what happens one sets 704x480 and not 720x480....
  • [17:05:20] <ggreer> for me it garbles the screen until I set it back to 720 :)
  • [17:05:54] <av500> ggreer: well yes, if your X assumes 720
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  • [17:06:02] <av500> do you change that before X starts?
  • [17:06:04] <ggreer> ditto if I'm in a console
  • [17:06:05] <ggreer> yes
  • [17:06:24] <av500> and what does the x log say?
  • [17:06:24] <jeremiah> What is the password for logging into Angstrom when the Beagleboard xM test SD card boots?
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  • [17:06:44] <woglinde> enterkey?
  • [17:07:08] <woglinde> or returnkey
  • [17:07:13] <av500> woglinde: how do you spell that?
  • [17:07:27] <woglinde> hm its the biggestkey on keyboard?
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  • [17:07:29] <Ceriand|work> for horizontal blanking, you should be able to change it irrespective of the fb size with VENC_LLEN and VENC_SAVID_EAVID
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  • [17:08:23] <av500> Ceriand|work: yes, but how does dss2 expose that?
  • [17:08:24] <Ceriand|work> unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a way to change those without poking registers or modifying the kernel
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  • [17:08:29] <av500> :)
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  • [17:19:53] <jeremiah> Ah. One can just enter 'root' at the login prompt and away you go. :-)
  • [17:20:15] <av500> yes, root is a superuser!
  • [17:20:20] <av500> with super powers
  • [17:22:36] <jeremiah> But not super cow powers.
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  • [19:06:36] <djlewis> dang, how i miss my super cow powers :(
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  • [19:12:42] <helo_> the main problem is producing enough methane :/
  • [19:13:45] <ogra> use apt ;)
  • [19:13:49] <ogra> ogra@ac100:~$ LANG=C apt-get help|grep Cow
  • [19:13:49] <ogra> This APT has Super Cow Powers.
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  • [19:15:20] <djlewis> hmmm
  • [19:20:10] <djlewis> later, lunch time :)
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  • [20:03:59] <phantoxe> hi
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  • [21:36:59] <helo_> is the xM kernel code in linux-omap
  • [21:38:25] <rcn-ee_at_work> depends on the feature
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  • [21:40:06] <koen> rc1 merged the power stuff
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  • [21:44:51] <DESTRUCTOR> HI
  • [21:45:20] <DESTRUCTOR> what is the maxmimum input voltige for the beagleboard?
  • [21:46:12] <prpplague> +5.1V
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  • [21:48:26] <DESTRUCTOR> thanks!
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  • [21:59:25] <helo_> according to these instructions, i need to apply a bunch of OE patches via quilt to the linux-omap-2.6 branch?
  • [22:00:20] <pupnik> hm
  • [22:00:53] <rcn-ee_at_work> helo_, how old are the instructions, there's alot of stuff implemented in linux-omap...
  • [22:02:52] <koen> applying a bunch of OE patches is still a good idea
  • [22:03:07] <koen> about the same a applying a buch of patches from rcn-ee_at_work :)
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  • [22:05:54] <helo_> http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardLinuxKernel
  • [22:06:21] <rcn-ee_at_work> yuck,eww 2.6.29.. ;)
  • [22:06:39] * koen is running 2.6.37 on his main beagle nowadays
  • [22:07:19] <rcn-ee_at_work> helo_, tmlind's tree, which koen backported to angstrom's 2.6.37 is in pretty good shape.. not a lot of patches compared to 2.6.29
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  • [22:08:39] <helo_> great! i'll give it a shot
  • [22:09:01] <rcn-ee_at_work> hey koen are you fighting "smsc95xx 1-1.1:1.0: usb0: kevent 2 may have been dropped"'s on your xm/panda ?
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  • [22:09:28] <koen> rcn-ee_at_work: I only have seen that once or twice
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  • [22:09:57] <koen> rcn-ee_at_work: but FWIW, on the beagle wall we used screened revB xM to keep network alive, some boards just fail after a few hours
  • [22:10:13] <koen> no idea what's wrong, since resetting ehci works
  • [22:10:46] <rcn-ee_at_work> well, they recover.. for a just a moment it stalls... dmesg is fun to look at.. like: http://rcn-ee.homeip.net:81/dl/gcc/sys/dmesg-168887-2.6.37-x1-beagle-xma-512mb.log
  • [22:10:56] <helo_> is there an arch/arm/configs/ defconfig i can use to start from?
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  • [22:18:17] <pupnik> < CasperN> whin i connected my usb cup warmer to the panora, it started to sound wierd
  • [22:18:44] <mru> and spell wierd too
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  • [22:26:43] <_av500_> and smell wierd
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  • [22:27:28] <djlewis> no surprise, who knows where that cup warmer has been ;)
  • [22:27:49] <mru> inquiring minds demand to know what the coffee tasted like
  • [22:29:28] <djlewis> poor panora yelling "Help me , Help me !"
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  • [22:52:26] * helo_ wishes there was more mention of the pandaboard on the beagleboard site
  • [22:52:47] <ds2> helo_: pandaboard and beagleboards are 2 seperate projects done by different folks
  • [22:53:11] <ds2> this is like saying ford.com should have more mention of Suburbans
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  • [22:55:39] <helo_> oh, i was just going by the wiki entry for pandaboard, which said it was the successor to the beagle board
  • [22:55:54] <ds2> it is not the successor
  • [22:56:04] <ds2> any claims of such is false
  • [22:56:31] <rcn-ee_at_work> the panda guys claim it is, the beagle's deny it.. ;)
  • [22:56:38] <rcn-ee_at_work> different groups at ti..
  • [22:56:47] <ds2> heh
  • [22:56:52] <koen> well, beagle isn't a TI project
  • [22:56:54] <koen> panda is
  • [22:56:55] <ds2> at best they are peer projects
  • [22:57:52] <koen> I wish TI sponsored beagleboards as heavily as pandaboards
  • [22:58:09] <koen> then we could sell xMs for like 50 bucks
  • [22:58:22] <ds2> koen: and we would get rebates back on RevC's? ;)
  • [22:58:42] <koen> pretty much :)
  • [22:59:51] <_av500_> and revBs?
  • [23:00:30] <ds2> has anyone depop'ed a RevB to see if the chip says 3430 or 3530? ;)
  • [23:00:50] <_av500_> ds2: i wish i had your problems :)
  • [23:01:08] <ds2> what problems? O:-)
  • [23:02:51] <djlewis> i expect someone around the globe trying to clone them has.
  • [23:05:15] <ds2> djlewis: would you happen to also be into microscopes in addition to telescopes?
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  • [23:06:42] <djlewis> i'd love to have a good microscope, but no.
  • [23:07:05] <ds2> oh
  • [23:07:21] <ds2> #@$!@#!$##@#!@ 0201 parts on the Panda are forcing microscope work :(
  • [23:07:46] <djlewis> ugh, 0201, ugh...
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  • [23:08:00] <ds2> I see you have seen them before and probally also sneezed too ;)
  • [23:08:14] <djlewis> i doubt my 5" Luxo would be much help there either.
  • [23:08:32] <djlewis> barely seen is more accurate
  • [23:11:22] <ds2> LCD on the Panda requires installation of 28 of those resistors :/
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  • [23:14:26] <aholler> if someone wants to get rid of boot.scr: http://lists.denx.de/pipermail/u-boot/2011-January/086078.html
  • [23:15:25] <ds2> aholler: heh, much more palatable ;)
  • [23:15:45] <_av500_> aholler: but why change the syntax?
  • [23:16:04] <aholler> help env
  • [23:16:18] <djlewis> ds2: perhaps these will help? http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/04/29/eye-glasses-double-for-microscope/
  • [23:16:33] <_av500_> aholler: ?
  • [23:16:48] <aholler> the format has to be the one env import understands
  • [23:17:09] <_av500_> ok
  • [23:17:34] <aholler> that isn't a script anymore, just a bunch of environment variables
  • [23:18:26] <helo_> how difficult it is to attach a LCD to the beagle? i found an lcd which takes similar 2-pin per color serial as the DVI output has, but i don't know much about whether the signals are likely to be compatible
  • [23:19:34] <ds2> helo_: nearly trivial
  • [23:19:53] <ds2> djlewis: =)
  • [23:20:05] <helo_> good good :D
  • [23:21:35] <ds2> serial is less trivial but nevertheless...
  • [23:31:37] <_av500_> helo_: url to display?
  • [23:31:44] <_av500_> aholler: why cant it be a script?
  • [23:32:03] <djlewis> helo_: ds2 can make it sound easier than it might be ;)
  • [23:32:25] <djlewis> for mere mortals
  • [23:32:45] <djlewis> or is that meer?
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  • [23:33:48] <mru> mere
  • [23:33:53] <mru> meer is german for sea
  • [23:34:19] <aholler> _av500_: why should it be a script? I use "env import"
  • [23:34:28] <mru> mare in latin
  • [23:34:34] <mru> mare in english is a horse
  • [23:35:28] <mru> does that make it a seahorse
  • [23:35:38] <djlewis> later, heading home :)
  • [23:35:38] <aholler> _av500_: for scripting uenvcmd is used
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  • [23:39:55] <ds2> it is that easy!
  • [23:40:12] <ds2> LCDs are huge shift registers with side effects
  • [23:45:25] <pupnik> heh
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  • [23:48:50] <aholler> btw, u-boot 2010.12 has env default -f, no need to erase the environment anymore
  • [23:49:39] <aholler> so get back nand to the xm ;)
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