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  • [00:21:42] <aholler> hmm, reading that again, why not drectly booting the kernel? there can't be much stuff missing in the kernel
  • [00:23:11] <Ceriand|work> aholler: for the omap3 at least, there's ~128kB limit to what the rom will load
  • [00:23:36] <aholler> but not if loading from nand, if I read that correctly
  • [00:24:22] <Ceriand|work> I believe you're correct
  • [00:24:48] <Ceriand|work> all you'd need to do is add a small bit of code to setup the ATAGs with the memory map and board ID
  • [00:25:20] <aholler> and maybe setting up the clocks, don't know.
  • [00:26:28] <aholler> could be interessting to try that.
  • [00:26:50] <Ceriand|work> I though about doing that for my custom omap board, but we load from MMC
  • [00:27:23] <Ceriand|work> so I my version of x-load boot kernels directly instead
  • [00:27:56] <Ceriand|work> so I could eliminate the u-boot middle-man
  • [00:28:22] <aholler> maybe the 128k-limit is fat only.
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  • [00:55:20] <cwicks> Looking forward to our UT Beagleboard Challenge Monday Nite Office Hours!
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  • [00:59:22] <cwicks> Hi Dan!
  • [00:59:26] <Dan_> hey
  • [00:59:35] <Dan_> oh right, it's "office hour" time
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  • [00:59:43] <Dan_> i actually forgot about that
  • [00:59:58] <Dan_> does anyone know how to measure VDD1 on the board?
  • [01:00:03] <cwicks> So glad you could join us how is your project going?
  • [01:00:16] <Dan_> waiting on progress on DSP
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  • [01:00:30] <Dan_> rcn-ee: how was your trip? Have you gotten a chance to look at DSP some more?
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  • [01:01:12] <Dan_> cwicks: my beagleboard overclocking seems to be a failure, so i'm working on DSP. DSP progress is slow because currently there's no established way to use it
  • [01:01:15] <Dan_> rcn-ee is working on it
  • [01:01:32] <tgabriel> Hello UT Beaglers!
  • [01:01:35] <Dan_> cwicks: thanks for the extension, by the way
  • [01:01:37] <rcn-ee> Hey Dan_ it was awesome, (minus the air delays)... not really in the last day or so.. :)
  • [01:02:03] <Dan_> cool, glad you enjoyed it
  • [01:02:06] <Dan_> air delays suck
  • [01:02:18] <Dan_> no worries, cwicks has given us an extension
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  • [01:02:40] <cwicks> we can also thank tgabriel for her work with the powers that be!
  • [01:03:12] <Dan_> thank you tgabriel :)
  • [01:03:27] <jkridner> good morning
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  • [01:03:32] <tgabriel> You're welcome!
  • [01:03:53] <cwicks> dan have you looked at this http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Getting_Started_With_C6Run_On_Beagleboard
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  • [01:04:34] <cwicks> Good morning jkridner!
  • [01:04:57] <Dan_> cwicks: no I haven't, I'm taking a look now
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  • [01:08:05] <tgabriel> What Beagle Board Challenge teams are online tonight?
  • [01:08:15] <hpham> team Turtlecam here
  • [01:08:24] <Dan_> SuperBeagle here
  • [01:08:57] <Dan_> C6Run looks interesting... I was originally looking to do something similar to this
  • [01:09:31] <Dan_> the link that you sent seems to be a build flow for Angstrom, is there one for Ubuntu?
  • [01:09:59] <Dan_> also, I'm wondering if that's just enabling the DSP bridge drivers in the kernel (in which case rcn-ee's framework seems to suffice)
  • [01:11:03] <vdude> A.W.E. here!
  • [01:11:40] <tgabriel> Hi SuperBeagle.
  • [01:11:51] <tgabriel> Hi Turtlecam and A.W.E.! How are your project going?
  • [01:12:42] <rcn-ee> Dan_, it's an option, but it relies on dsplink http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Getting_Started_With_C6Run#Stand-alone_Download vs dspbridge, it'll take a little more effort to forward port the dsplink bits..
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  • [01:14:02] <hpham> tgabriel: our turtlecam project is going pretty well, we are about to start playing with opencv
  • [01:14:26] <cwicks> jkridner can you join via phone by chance? we have a couple of questions via phone 877.561.6828 54043628#
  • [01:15:20] <vdude> my project is stalled right now -- the board slows down after a while, and mtest shows quite a few failures :(
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  • [01:19:09] <Dan_> rcn-ee thanks for the insight
  • [01:20:32] <jahid> so im trying to use s-video since i dont have lcd monitor
  • [01:20:51] <jahid> i followed the manual
  • [01:21:28] <jahid> and ran the sample video using serial connection
  • [01:21:43] <jahid> but it flickers a lot
  • [01:22:21] <aholler> welcome to the analog world ;)
  • [01:22:22] <Dan_> hey anyone know how i can measure VDD1 on the beagleboard?
  • [01:22:34] <Dan_> i looked at the Beagleboard C4 manual but it just says how to measure current
  • [01:22:46] <Dan_> i'm not too good at analog stuff haha
  • [01:22:53] <Dan_> my background is 100% digital
  • [01:23:09] <aholler> Dan_: meant jahid
  • [01:23:29] <Dan_> aholler: I meant for my VDD1 question, sorry for the misunderstanding
  • [01:24:13] <aholler> jahid: I think there is nothing you can do to avoid that flickering when using s-video
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  • [01:25:39] <jahid> also the manual doesnt say how to switch between svideo and dvi
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  • [01:27:29] <jahid> my tv also has hdmi hdtv input but it doesnt seem to be working either
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  • [01:28:21] <jkridner|work> for folks on the UT challenge phone call: http://gitorious.org/beagleboard-validation/u-boot/commit/3a7065670ad3106c24b3408ebca83b413e47432a
  • [01:28:37] <jkridner|work> that should fix the memory region for mtest for it to avoid overwriting u-boot itself.
  • [01:29:14] <aholler> jahid: you'll have to change dvimode in your boot.scr to contain a mode your tv understands. there are many tutorials in the web about how to do that
  • [01:29:44] <jkridner|work> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/ has instructions on upgrading u-boot.
  • [01:29:58] <cwicks> Hi Any additional UT Beaglers checking in?
  • [01:30:21] <cwicks> we are also on the phone 877.561.6828 54043628# if that works
  • [01:30:51] <aholler> support for edid should have been a gsoc-project ;)
  • [01:31:03] <jkridner|work> aholler: indeed.
  • [01:31:40] <jkridner|work> anybody else know good applications to detect memory leaks and swap activity?
  • [01:31:59] <aholler> valgrind?
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  • [01:33:03] <aholler> it has now support for armv7
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  • [01:35:41] <jkridner|work> I'm looking for something that can more generally find anything starting to take up swap space in the system. I thought valgrind was more for individual apps.
  • [01:36:06] <aholler> every monitoring tool should support that
  • [01:37:04] <aholler> snmpd spits out many useful infos (over snmp) too
  • [01:38:14] <aholler> about edid, someone still could bribe ti or any of those people knowing dss to give us edid ;)
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  • [01:42:22] <jkridner|work> jahid: I've seen a wiki article talking about switching from DVI-D to S-Video.
  • [01:42:43] <jahid> can u give me the link plz
  • [01:42:46] <jkridner|work> I've managed to do it once, but I don't normally have a monitor that handles S-Video.
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  • [01:44:06] <aholler> to get a clue what snmp offers, install snmpd, start it and call "snmpbulkwalk -v2c -c public localhost .1"
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  • [01:44:14] * jkridner|work looks at http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/OMAP3_DSS2_Architecture
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  • [01:44:46] <jkridner|work> aholler: what packages do you typically install to get snmpd/snmpbulkwalk?
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  • [01:45:27] <cwicks> Hello UT Beaglers, anyone else want to check in and tell us their porject name and how things are going?
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  • [01:46:46] <aholler> jkridner|work: netsnmp
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  • [01:47:19] <jkridner|work> jahid: http://gitorious.org/beagleboard-validation/scripts/blobs/master/testsvideo is my hack attempt at something to enable s-video
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  • [01:48:50] <jahid> thx
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  • [01:51:13] <aholler> jkridner|work: besides that nagios is monitoring tool and cacti is something wich collects infos through snmp
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  • [01:55:17] <jkridner|work> jahid: http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Adding_new_DVI_resolutions has some useful information on the SYSFS entries at the bottom of that page.
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  • [01:56:59] <aholler> another snmp tip: to get only the available free swap space: snmpget -v2c -c public localhost memAvailSwap.0
  • [01:58:08] <jkridner|work> jahid: http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/e19ad578ba4cbbcb/57cac48700903765 also seems to be relevant to you.
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  • [02:02:18] <jahid> im kinda new to linux.. so how would i run that code on gitorious...
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  • [02:03:55] <jahid> seems to be a shell script
  • [02:04:41] <aholler> and here the last snmp-tip from for today: "snmptable -v2c -c public localhost hrSWRunTable" and "snmptable -v2c -c public localhost hrSWRunPerfTable" ;)
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  • [02:05:47] <aholler> but it's a lot easier to use something like cacti to retrieve such infos
  • [02:10:11] <jkridner|work> cwicks: I cannot hear you any longer....
  • [02:10:33] <cwicks> I'll dial in
  • [02:10:47] <jkridner|work> my cheap USB camera that I use with the Beagleboard is a Gear Head WC830I
  • [02:11:16] <cwicks> i'm back but you aren't?
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  • [02:29:06] <cwicks> on my way to walmart to look for a PS3 eye
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  • [02:31:33] <thurbad> lame... my custom kernel isn't booting on the xM, it won't mount the rootfs as rw
  • [02:32:00] <thurbad> worked fine on the regular beagle
  • [02:33:00] <thurbad> and a regular angstrom 2.6.32 kernel mouns it fine as well
  • [02:34:58] <jahid> in uboot is ther a way to load the resume autoboot or should i press reset button thx
  • [02:35:27] <thurbad> resume?
  • [02:36:24] <jahid> *load the kernel
  • [02:36:31] <thurbad> you can use the bootm after doing fatload to continue booting
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  • [02:44:00] <jahid> im new to linux nyone know what this means: "...comment out the Driver "omapfb" and "fb" /dev/fb0 in xorg.conf. "
  • [02:51:10] <buZz> to comment out, means to add a # in front of the line
  • [02:51:16] <buZz> and xorg.conf is in /etc
  • [02:52:55] <jahid> tnx
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  • [04:28:07] <hgs> hi all, i want to generate mac address unique for each of the board. i thought of making use of sd card serial number for generating the mac address. but hdparam utility does not return me serial number.any suggestion for reading the serial number or can i rely on any other unique hw reference??
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  • [04:56:31] <ds2> blah... archos 70 seems to be the only low end android tablet with bluetooth... :/
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  • [06:25:59] <_av500_> ds2: go buy
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  • [06:44:21] <ds2> _av500_: I want one that does not come with Android
  • [06:44:36] <ds2> which really leaves me with an empty set
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  • [06:50:01] <ds2> if rooting is required, might as well do a hardware mod and add bluetooth to other tablets
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  • [06:52:17] <_av500_> ds2: you can dual boot it
  • [06:52:45] <_av500_> we released the dev sw one week ago
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  • [06:55:30] <ds2> _av500_: oh?
  • [06:56:06] <ds2> _av500_: is that the hacker's edition or just sw to reflash?
  • [06:58:44] <dm8tbr> ds2: it allows you to flash arbitrary kernel/initramfs in addition to the production firmware
  • [06:59:34] <dm8tbr> so it's basically a BB-XM in a fancy product ;)
  • [07:00:10] <ds2> but is there 2 P/N's where one is locked and another is unlocked?
  • [07:00:27] <dm8tbr> what is a p/n?
  • [07:00:31] <ds2> part number
  • [07:00:38] <dm8tbr> no, same thing
  • [07:00:51] <dm8tbr> you buy one in store, flash the SDE and are done
  • [07:00:51] <ds2> that might have just landed them a sale
  • [07:01:04] <dm8tbr> and the display is MT!
  • [07:02:56] <ds2> I much rather have a sunlight visible display but that I can compromise
  • [07:04:16] <dm8tbr> no idea how well you can read it in full sunlight, but it's most likely not specifically designed for that
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  • [07:04:33] <dm8tbr> some displays still look ok-ish with high contrast
  • [07:05:22] <ds2> well, having gotten that on a N900, it is highly desireable
  • [07:05:46] <ds2> what's this USB host adapter thing
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  • [07:06:17] <dm8tbr> hm?
  • [07:06:36] <ds2> http://www.archos.com/products/ta/_watch_compare_A7.html?country=us&lang=en
  • [07:06:41] <dm8tbr> usually the 'OTG' port is exposed
  • [07:07:06] <dm8tbr> that means 'go buy an micro-a to a' adaptor
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  • [07:07:52] <dm8tbr> av500: ^^^ mktg still didn't fix it!
  • [07:08:18] <dm8tbr> (different issues on same page)
  • [07:08:39] <ds2> heh
  • [07:09:05] <ds2> wonder if the 101 is the same except for the the screen size
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  • [07:10:50] <dm8tbr> the 101 got an regular A port
  • [07:11:17] <dm8tbr> downside with that you could plug in something in the mini/micro-b and A at the same time, which will not end well ;)
  • [07:11:42] <dm8tbr> btw: the A7 is still more or less pocketable, the 101 isn't
  • [07:13:04] <ds2> not looking for pocketable
  • [07:13:29] <ds2> the HDMI out might have just cinched the deal; just need to find out if the HDMI out is wired up like the BB's
  • [07:14:05] <ds2> blah amazon is out of stock
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  • [07:22:51] <dm8tbr> a70 should have hdmi too
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  • [07:26:23] <ds2> of all the compromise tablets, I think the candidates are the 70 and maybe the galaxy tablet
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  • [07:28:22] <TraumaPony> Is it possible to disable the video releated stuff on the board? I don't want it to be wasting battery power
  • [07:29:25] <ds2> Yes, see the SRM
  • [07:30:18] <TraumaPony> Awesome.
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  • [07:31:40] <ds2> dm8tbr: you know if the USB ports on the A70 are 100mA limited or not?
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  • [07:52:27] <av500> ds2: not the 7HT, A70
  • [07:52:33] <av500> the 7HT is a low end model
  • [07:52:41] <av500> so look at the A70
  • [07:52:56] <av500> ds2: yes, 100mA oth, thank TI PMICs
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  • [08:08:22] <ds2> av500: so the A70 does not have HDMI out?
  • [08:08:53] <ds2> 100mA OTG... now if I can find a battery powered hub
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  • [08:11:48] <av500> ds2: it has
  • [08:12:28] <ds2> then what's the 7HT vs A70 comment refering to?
  • [08:13:29] <av500> ds2: dont look at the 7HT, look at the A70
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  • [08:15:07] <ds2> I just referred to that table as it lists the A70 specs
  • [08:15:21] <av500> ds2: ah right
  • [08:15:25] <ds2> btw, is the HDMI out wired so that I can have 640x480 on the HDMI side and still have the LCD active?
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  • [08:15:43] <av500> ds2: not on the 70
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  • [08:16:01] <av500> ds2: since the lcd is parallel
  • [08:16:58] <ds2> I see. is there a model with similar features that will let me do that?
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  • [08:21:11] <tdh2002> hi every one
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  • [08:22:35] <av500> ds2: the a43 has a DSI display, so it *could* work, but nobody has ever tried
  • [08:22:48] <av500> but then its smaller, no capa ts etc
  • [08:23:12] <av500> ds2: looks like your empty set it getting emptier :)
  • [08:23:18] <av500> time for compromise?
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  • [08:23:30] <ds2> av500: unfortunately, yes.
  • [08:23:46] <ds2> av500: can the HDMI port run at 640x480 with the LCD disabled?
  • [08:23:52] <av500> sure
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  • [08:24:03] <ds2> Ohhhhh... I can live with that
  • [08:24:40] <av500> why only vga?
  • [08:24:46] <ds2> av500: other then screen size, is there anything else different with the 101?
  • [08:24:51] <ds2> av500: Pico
  • [08:24:54] <av500> ah
  • [08:25:04] <av500> ds2: the 101 has a 500mA usb host
  • [08:25:23] <ds2> I am trying to find a tablet for actual use, not tinkering...hence the pickyness
  • [08:25:29] <av500> ds2: sure
  • [08:25:33] <ds2> av500: so I loose OTG?
  • [08:25:35] <av500> get a toughbook :)
  • [08:25:49] <ds2> as in panasonic toughbook?
  • [08:25:53] <av500> ds2: you can use the micro usb as device, or the A as host
  • [08:25:56] <ds2> or you mean the touchbook?
  • [08:26:02] <av500> but not both
  • [08:26:07] <av500> ds2: panasonic
  • [08:26:27] <ds2> ohhh
  • [08:26:48] <ds2> is the 101 locked down?
  • [08:27:04] <av500> no, same dev sw available
  • [08:27:30] <ds2> I see. can I assume the dev software will let me do things like keep stock kernel but install new rootfs?
  • [08:27:37] <av500> ds2: http://goo.gl/GlcIG applies here too :)
  • [08:27:56] <av500> ds2: we cannot stop you from taking the stock kernel and using it with you rootfs
  • [08:28:43] <ds2> av500: is this fastboot based or u-boot based?
  • [08:28:50] <av500> neither
  • [08:29:08] <ds2> I see.
  • [08:29:25] <av500> its avboot, mucho better :)
  • [08:29:48] <ds2> just trying to figure out how much work it is to get it to the state I want
  • [08:30:08] <av500> depends on the "state" I guess
  • [08:30:28] <ds2> either non Android or Android + ability to run X stuff
  • [08:34:25] <av500> ds2: there is interest from the meego(tm) ppl to run on it, so they can pave the road somewhat
  • [08:34:38] <av500> ds2: dm8tbr is your man
  • [08:34:54] <ds2> av500: on the 101 or 70?
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  • [08:35:01] <av500> ds2: both
  • [08:35:04] <av500> the hw is similar
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  • [08:35:08] <ds2> oh I see.
  • [08:35:21] <av500> ds2: we run the same sw on all 5 models
  • [08:35:33] <av500> so the kernel supports them all
  • [08:36:09] <ds2> and they all charge off of 5V?
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  • [08:37:40] <av500> ds2: yes
  • [08:37:54] <av500> ds2: the 7" and 10" charge from 5V, the others from usb
  • [08:38:14] <ds2> so other then sw, the 101 or 70 is the tablet for me
  • [08:38:43] <ds2> is the BT on UART or USB?
  • [08:41:03] <av500> ds2: ti wilink
  • [08:41:07] <av500> 1271
  • [08:44:12] <ds2> think those are on UART
  • [08:44:28] <av500> sdio
  • [08:44:37] <av500> ah no, might be uart for bt
  • [08:44:37] <tdh2002> when i excute glxinfo , i got error "couldn't find RGB visual or fbconfig "
  • [08:44:39] <tdh2002> any idea?
  • [08:44:43] <ds2> thought only the WiFi is on SDIO?
  • [08:45:06] <av500> yeah
  • [08:56:14] <rick_> hi, all: Is there any possibility that the first 4 blocks of NAND become invalid and the DM3730 can't boot the x-load from NAND
  • [08:56:31] <tdh2002> OK It works -_-
  • [08:56:50] <av500> rick_: sure its posssible
  • [08:56:54] <av500> so boot from sd
  • [08:57:15] <rick_> I've read from TRM that the boot ROM will read the four blocks to find the boot image.
  • [08:58:20] <rick_> so I want to find a way to handle the write of boot loader into NAND
  • [08:58:48] <rick_> av500, yes, it's the last way :D
  • [09:00:05] <rick_> another thing is that I found the bad block information is inconsistent in u-boot and linux mtd-utils
  • [09:00:51] <rick_> Will u-boot mis-recognize the bad block?
  • [09:01:33] <tdh2002> I dont thick so -_-
  • [09:01:41] <av500> rick_: I would boot from nand and try to flash the MLO again
  • [09:01:43] <av500> err, from sd
  • [09:02:02] <tdh2002> the kernel will mark the bad block
  • [09:02:24] <rick_> av500, um...this means we have trouble with NAND hardware...
  • [09:02:30] <av500> ?
  • [09:04:43] <rick_> tdh2002, I have u-boot with NAND enabled, but after write the MLO and u-boot into nand(no error messages), boot from NAND is done well, but the "nand bad" command show that there are bad blocks in the address that MLO and u-boot writted to.
  • [09:05:08] <rick_> One time I see it marks 0x00000000 as bad block :S
  • [09:05:15] <tdh2002> rick You can boot??
  • [09:05:20] <rick_> yes
  • [09:05:45] <rick_> so I don't know if the NAND driver is not porting completely...:(
  • [09:05:55] <tdh2002> it is surprising -_-
  • [09:06:08] <tdh2002> you can try boot with SD card
  • [09:06:16] <tdh2002> then see what information it shows
  • [09:06:47] <rick_> tdh2002, I can boot into linux from NAND even the blocks treated bad
  • [09:07:35] <rick_> The trouble is I can't write new boot loaders into NAND without "nand scrub"
  • [09:08:04] <tdh2002> can you write it under linux?
  • [09:08:04] <rick_> nand write/erase don't work if it think the block is bad
  • [09:08:34] <rick_> I write bootloaders and uImage in u-boot, file system in linux.
  • [09:08:39] <rick_> by ubifs
  • [09:09:48] <rick_> it's strange my u-boot alway think some part is bad blocks, but nandtest under linux think that part is not bad
  • [09:10:25] <tdh2002> maybe something is wrong with your uboot
  • [09:10:33] <tdh2002> try another uboot
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  • [09:14:16] <rick_> ok :D
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  • [09:33:00] <koen> av500: have a look at the number 3 machine at http://narcissus.angstrom-distribution.org/stats.php
  • [09:33:26] <av500> gee
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  • [09:41:58] <ynezz> so it's 1394 builds for Beagle in ~29 days = ~48 daily, hm
  • [09:42:07] <ynezz> not that much as I would expected :)
  • [09:42:42] <ynezz> probably it's new users/owners only?
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  • [09:43:50] <ynezz> anyway /me likes stats
  • [09:46:52] <koen> ynezz: then you'll like http://narcissus.angstrom-distribution.org/graph.php
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  • [09:47:03] <koen> firefox misformats that, though
  • [09:47:25] <koen> for only beagle: http://narcissus.angstrom-distribution.org/graph.php?machine=beagleboard
  • [09:47:55] <av500> koen: time to add gen8
  • [09:48:08] <koen> send me the codes :)
  • [09:48:32] <av500> sec, preparing a word doc with the patches as we speak
  • [09:49:30] <koen> the supervisor for my girlfriends master thesis asked for a word version of it
  • [09:49:44] <koen> "but I used latex, isn't PDF good enough?"
  • [09:49:45] <mru> a patch?
  • [09:50:08] <av500> koen: no dvi2doc?
  • [09:50:22] <koen> speaking of patches, I'm waiting for texas to wake up and give me the codes for DVI
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  • [09:56:21] <courville> honore: can you please ask _BuBU
  • [09:56:29] <courville> oops
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  • [11:24:54] <av500> it's 2010, my coworker started writing a new terminal app
  • [11:25:15] <koen> yoctocom?
  • [11:25:24] <mru> :)
  • [11:25:44] <av500> koen: myterm for now :)
  • [11:26:46] * koen still hasn't decided wether a 7" or 10" tablet is better
  • [11:27:00] <mru> depends on what you want to use it for
  • [11:27:18] <mru> for beating people over the head, the 10" is probably better
  • [11:27:30] <vij> :)
  • [11:28:31] <av500> mru: wrong, the 7" 250GB is better for that
  • [11:28:44] <koen> does the 7" have hdmi out?
  • [11:28:53] <mru> av500: is that heavier?
  • [11:29:29] <pupnik> the archos 7.0 has hdmi out
  • [11:29:38] <pupnik> the 250GB device is heavier
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  • [11:37:22] <DesktopMa> koen: 7" for pants pocket, 10" for bed
  • [11:37:24] <DesktopMa> :P
  • [11:40:48] <pupnik> i'm very happy with 800x480 on a 7" screen. it's a good size
  • [11:41:05] <mru> too low res imo
  • [11:41:11] <mru> for so large a screen
  • [11:41:22] <mru> 7" needs at least 1024x600
  • [11:42:20] <mru> 7" is also a bit large for pocket
  • [11:42:45] <mru> 5" is the most I can comfortably fit in a jeans pocket
  • [11:43:23] <av500> yes, 1024x600 would have been nicer
  • [11:43:35] <DesktopMa> hopefully the motorola one will be 1280*800 at 10"
  • [11:43:51] <pupnik> snobs :)
  • [11:44:10] <koen> 1080p at 10"
  • [11:44:14] <av500> pupnik: dont forget its the same people that lol'ed at tablets 6mo ago ;)
  • [11:44:42] <DesktopMa> I lol'ed at the ipad. there's a difference ;)
  • [11:45:19] <mru> koen: then I'd need to use a larger font than my usual 5x8
  • [11:47:00] <koen> does android allow changing fontsize?
  • [11:47:07] <koen> or do I need to get the codes from andy rubin?
  • [11:47:20] <mru> some apps can change font
  • [11:47:32] <av500> koen: harhar
  • [11:47:39] <koen> I haven't found how to change fonts on my iphone
  • [11:48:06] <mru> what, the jobs' fonts not good enough for you eh?
  • [11:48:07] <av500> koen: of course not, they are how steve wants them to be
  • [11:48:10] <mru> just who do you think you are?
  • [11:48:17] <aholler> echo terminus >/dev/myfont ;)
  • [11:48:42] <ynezz> +!
  • [11:48:46] <mru> the android fonts are pretty good actually
  • [11:48:56] <av500> yes
  • [11:49:04] <mru> but they lack a bold monospace
  • [11:49:13] <av500> patches welcome
  • [11:50:12] <mru> who made those fonts?
  • [11:51:14] <av500> Ascender Corporation
  • [11:51:17] <av500> thats in the ttf
  • [11:51:29] <av500> Droid Sans is a humanist sans serif typeface designed for user interfaces and electronic communication.
  • [11:51:41] <av500> http://www.ascendercorp.com/
  • [11:51:51] <av500> ah monotype
  • [11:52:05] <av500> since dec 8th
  • [11:52:12] <mru> they renamed?
  • [11:52:37] <av500> no, mono bought them
  • [11:53:04] <mru> never heard of ascender corp before
  • [11:53:16] <av500> they have a droid mono bold, but its not free :)
  • [11:53:34] <mru> hmph
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  • [11:54:46] <av500> goog only licensed some
  • [11:55:30] <av500> http://www.ascenderfonts.com/font/droid-sans-pro-mono-bold.aspx
  • [11:55:35] <av500> $30 a steal :)
  • [11:55:47] <mru> that's cheap for a font
  • [11:55:54] <mru> they're usually 10x that
  • [11:56:37] <av500> yes, i wonder if its redistributable for $30
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  • [11:58:12] <av500> "...Most fonts on this website permit up to 5 PCs as part of the base license. ..."
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  • [11:59:43] <mru> tinkering with fonts always makes me angry
  • [11:59:58] <av500> y?
  • [12:00:12] <mru> it often leads to poking in fontconfig xml files
  • [12:00:15] <mru> and those are disgusting
  • [12:00:22] <av500> never did that
  • [12:00:39] <av500> but then, I only tinker with fonts for embedded use :)
  • [12:00:41] <mru> and inkscape refuses to use certain font attributes
  • [12:00:44] * av500 hugs fontforge
  • [12:01:02] <mru> fontforge has the ugliest UI ever
  • [12:01:05] <mru> but it works
  • [12:01:05] <av500> sure
  • [12:01:08] <av500> yes
  • [12:01:23] <av500> used it mostly to copy and paste glyphs around
  • [12:01:48] <mru> try using fonts with styles like "thin" or "narrow"
  • [12:01:54] <mru> inkscape simply will have none of it
  • [12:02:05] <mru> it knows only of regular, bold and a couple others
  • [12:02:29] <av500> did you file a bug? :)
  • [12:02:36] <av500> or send a patch
  • [12:02:40] <mru> it's possible to create fontconfig aliases for other styles
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  • [12:47:31] <Tom_> Hi
  • [12:49:08] <Tom_> I'm looking for a ARM driver for touch screen for beagle board
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  • [12:49:54] <Tom_> The egalax drivers are the most common that I have found
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  • [12:51:31] <Tom_> but there are only for OS 32 bits and 64 bits
  • [12:52:07] <Tom_> Do yo know where I can find this kind of drivers for ARM ?
  • [12:52:40] <Tom_> Here come my links :
  • [12:52:41] <Tom_> http://home.eeti.com.tw/web20/eGalaxTouchDriver/linuxDriver.htm
  • [12:53:09] <aholler> Tom_: the kernel contains them
  • [12:53:40] <aholler> (if enabled by the kernel config)
  • [12:53:46] <Tom_> Are you sure ?
  • [12:53:49] <aholler> yes
  • [12:54:08] <Tom_> Because I found a lot of comments with people who had some problems
  • [12:54:37] <aholler> maybe the people are the problem
  • [12:55:12] <Tom_> and how can I check that is configured in the kernel ?
  • [12:56:09] <aholler> zgrep TOUCHSCREEN /proc/config.gz
  • [12:57:08] <Tom_> Ok, thanks a lot aholler
  • [12:57:34] <aholler> with 2.6.36 and above it's CONFIG_TOUCHSCREEN_USB_COMPOSITE
  • [12:58:08] <aholler> there once was a sepearate driver but they got found it's way into that composite driver
  • [12:58:48] <Tom_> actually I have no board close to me but I will try
  • [13:03:47] <Tom_> Another question
  • [13:04:03] <aholler> that zgrep won't work on debian or ubuntu, I don't know why, but they don't include the config in the kernel
  • [13:04:37] <Tom_> zgrep it's juste to search, isn't it ?
  • [13:05:08] <Tom_> if I want enable something , is it necessary to rebuild a kernel ?*
  • [13:05:10] <aholler> yes, but you need /proc/config.gz and thats missing in their kernels
  • [13:06:04] <aholler> but they provide the config in /boot or such.
  • [13:07:01] <Tom_> ok
  • [13:07:37] <aholler> I assume they still think those 2k are a waste of memory ;)
  • [13:07:48] <Tom_> :p
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  • [14:07:38] <aholler> is the avboot replacable?
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  • [14:10:15] <av500> aholler: there is no write only nand
  • [14:10:26] <aholler> but HS ;)
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  • [14:12:35] <aholler> but I've now understood that archos doesn't play with signed u-boots or kernels. thanks for that. ;)
  • [14:13:00] <av500> aholler: we do
  • [14:13:07] <aholler> where?
  • [14:13:07] <av500> but we also offer a rootkit
  • [14:13:22] <av500> our stuff is all signed
  • [14:13:27] <av500> but you can put yours
  • [14:13:42] <aholler> so why so sign them?
  • [14:13:49] <aholler> s/so/you/
  • [14:14:06] <av500> becaue we do not want random downloads to brick devices for mme michu
  • [14:14:12] <aholler> which are the consequences using a non-signed kernel?
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  • [14:14:55] <aholler> disabled app-store or such?
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  • [14:15:57] <aholler> or must I have to file a NDA to be know about the consequences?
  • [14:15:58] <atunc> hi
  • [14:16:35] <atunc> any body worked with usb-webcam ?
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  • [14:17:13] <av500> aholler: no
  • [14:17:34] <atunc> anybody???
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  • [14:18:53] <av500> atunc: yes, somebody has worked with usb-webcam
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  • [14:19:37] <atunc> i use angstrm but i dont know how can i connected webcam
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  • [14:22:37] <av500> atunc: please dont
  • [14:22:47] * aholler just booted a linux on the beagle using an u-boot compiled with gcc 4.5.1 ;)
  • [14:23:10] <atunc> what dont?
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  • [14:24:15] <atunc> lan!
  • [14:24:21] <av500> atunc: hint: asking meaningful questions helps
  • [14:24:44] <aholler> 42
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  • [14:28:22] <atunc> i use angstrm on my beagleboard, i want to connect usb camera, when i plug the cam its connect but how can i learn its working? there is any package for working??
  • [14:29:01] <aholler> try e.g. cheese or mplayer
  • [14:29:19] <aholler> anything which supports v4l(2)
  • [14:30:09] <atunc> how can i open mplayer??
  • [14:30:54] <mru> hold it in your left hand and with your right hand turn the cap anticlockwise
  • [14:31:17] <av500> mru: corkscrew for vlc?
  • [14:31:20] <mru> clockwise on big endian systems
  • [14:31:37] <mru> av500: yes, it's french
  • [14:31:45] <aholler> atunc: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=mplayer+webcam
  • [14:32:54] <atunc> i compiled mplayer for beagleboard for play some videos
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  • [14:35:14] <hilmi> anyone can help keyboard and mouse problem??
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  • [14:35:54] <aholler> if you hit the mouse with the keyboard she will be dead.
  • [14:35:56] <atunc> hilmi : asking meaningful questions helps
  • [14:37:05] <hilmi> i booted the ubuntu successfully, now i see "system configuration menu" but neither my keyboard nor mouse works
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  • [14:39:06] <TraumaPony> Do you think the beagleboard would be able to handle -40c?
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  • [14:42:20] <aholler> TraumaPony: you could try that with paris: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/11/05/paris_aerial_pics/ ;)
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  • [14:43:21] <TraumaPony> That's basically what we're doing, aholler :P
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  • [15:27:07] <syntx> where can i find the driver for 3M leopard camera?
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  • [15:27:13] <syntx> to use with the beagleboard
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  • [15:33:58] <syntx> anyone can hel pme to find the drivers for leopard 3m or vga cameras??
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  • [15:41:28] <aholler> hmm, maybe we should start wearing helmets because it will rain beagles
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  • [15:42:37] <djlewis> syntx: tried googling yet?
  • [15:43:03] <djlewis> syntx: there is very little info regarding your question as you may know.
  • [15:43:15] <djlewis> Only a couple of people I know of have done it.
  • [15:43:17] <djlewis> http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/1a47b67e2b67e90a?pli=1
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  • [16:01:28] <GatorBoz> if I already know my oscillator clock speed, can hardcode the result in X-loader get_sys_clk_speed function? Custom board...
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  • [16:04:29] <prpplague> koen: ping
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  • [16:15:29] <pupnik> what do you use to benchmark Xorg performance on beagleboard? i'm interested in overall blitting
  • [16:16:00] <syntx> djlewis yeah i didn't find something useful yet =/
  • [16:16:13] <av500> pupnik: whatever you think will produce the results you like most :)
  • [16:16:19] <pupnik> heheh
  • [16:16:20] <av500> its a benchmark
  • [16:17:43] <pupnik> have you gotten sound out of angstrom on a70?
  • [16:18:00] <av500> pupnik: never tried
  • [16:18:04] <pupnik> :)
  • [16:18:22] <pupnik> maybe i can find something to fix that then
  • [16:20:55] <djlewis> syntx: the leopardboard camera should be faster and use less cpu than a usb camera
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  • [16:28:09] <syntx> yeah ok
  • [16:28:18] <syntx> but i wanna know between boards
  • [16:28:28] <syntx> leopardboard and beagleboard wich is better for streaming videos?
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  • [16:29:17] <warflyr> on the latest openembedded build (kernel 2.6.33+), does modifying u-boot mux still have an effect or does it need to be done in the kernel now?
  • [16:29:29] <warflyr> (by default)
  • [16:33:46] <jkridner|work> on the BLEP call.
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  • [16:42:45] <cwicks> Good morning!
  • [16:43:31] <pupnik> hi
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  • [16:48:32] <jkridner|work> gm cwicks.
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  • [16:56:54] <djlewis> syntx: leopard suggests faster frame rate. I have been told it does very well.
  • [16:57:15] <djlewis> syntx: as for streaming, that requires an app as well.
  • [16:57:34] <GatorBoz> why does dram_init() exist in omap3530beagle.c (X-loader branch) ?
  • [16:58:13] <GatorBoz> it always returns 0;
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  • [17:29:13] <aholler> GatorBoz: which compiler?
  • [17:29:22] <GatorBoz> aholler: source code
  • [17:29:57] <GatorBoz> aholler : grep -r "dram_init" omap3530beagle.c
  • [17:30:06] <GatorBoz> aholler: in x-loader
  • [17:34:26] <aholler> for that get_sys_clk_speed you might be interessted in http://lists.denx.de/pipermail/u-boot/2010-December/083817.html
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  • [17:35:21] <aholler> here is a patch for that: http://lists.denx.de/pipermail/u-boot/2010-December/083940.html
  • [17:36:05] <aholler> there are at least two more patches in that list wich might be necessary to compile x-load with gcc >=4.5
  • [17:36:23] <aholler> just in case you are trying to do so
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  • [17:39:42] <GatorBoz> aholler: I guess what I'm asking, why even have that function? dram_init is called in u-boot, but why even have it in the xloader code?
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  • [17:40:20] <x-mas> hi everybody
  • [17:40:59] <aholler> GatorBoz: u-boot is loaded into dram, so it might be usefull to initialze that in x-load
  • [17:41:25] <GatorBoz> dholler: hmm, ok
  • [17:43:29] <aholler> x-load is just a strip-down of u-boot, I assume they don't wanted to do the dirty work of building a stripped down config for u-boot to compile u-boot as small as x-load
  • [17:44:04] <aholler> I think that would have been possible too, but I never tried it.
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  • [17:46:02] <aholler> (and it's sometimes easier to maintain a fork than to fight with other maintainers)
  • [17:48:46] <GatorBoz> aholler: thanks
  • [17:50:51] <atunc> hello everybody, i try to use webcam on angstrm with mplay, but i get some errors about v4l2. there is no video device in /dev path. i downloaded some v4l2 utilities with opkg command. i cant see /dev/video ? anybody help me?
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  • [18:00:41] <jkridner|work> anybody seen a cool BeagleBoard + Kinect demo yet?
  • [18:02:00] <prpplague> jkridner|work: hey bud
  • [18:02:07] <prpplague> jkridner|work: what's cookin?
  • [18:02:08] <jkridner|work> howdy prpplague!!
  • [18:02:13] <jkridner|work> bitbake?
  • [18:02:27] <prpplague> hehe
  • [18:02:40] <jkridner|work> the list of bugs/features needed for next revision is pretty long...
  • [18:03:07] <jkridner|work> and there is a workshop in early January pushing me to do another build and include C6Run.
  • [18:03:39] <jkridner|work> need to include a fix for the USB OTG kernel crash at boot.
  • [18:03:46] <pupnik> I <3 Omap3 devices. Just ran a binary from N900 and a binary from OpenPandora on my Archos today
  • [18:04:03] <jkridner|work> pupnik: :)
  • [18:04:29] <jkridner|work> All the best devices are OMAP3. :)
  • [18:05:03] * jkridner|work wants a Archos 101 for Christmas
  • [18:05:10] <pupnik> we don't need any improvements! let's just stick with it and finish the rest of the work
  • [18:05:17] <pupnik> i mean hardwarewise
  • [18:05:40] <jkridner|work> well, I'm just focused on releasing a new BeagleBoard *software* image.
  • [18:06:12] <jkridner|work> want to consider switch to initramfs
  • [18:07:18] <pupnik> nice
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  • [18:31:07] <djlewis> jkridner|work: I been wanting to set a demo up but cant fork out the money for the kinect just now :(
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  • [18:47:51] <pupnik> angstrom hasn't annoyed me yet... looks to be well trimmed for geeks
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  • [18:58:31] <jkridner|work> djlewis: if you had a solid proposal, I could pitch it to the marketing team.
  • [19:01:43] <Crofton|work> http://www.ettus.com/downloads/USRP_E100_Series_temporary_datasheet.pdf
  • [19:01:51] <Crofton|work> I forget if I have pimped that here
  • [19:02:43] <koen> Crofton|work: I already sent it to my boss, but I hadn't sent it to kridner yet
  • [19:02:50] <koen> Crofton|work: when is mine shipping?
  • [19:02:57] <Crofton|work> heh
  • [19:03:02] <Crofton|work> should be soon
  • [19:03:11] <Crofton|work> password issue was operator error
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  • [19:18:31] <Crofton|work> koen, did you run afoul of these guys? http://www.hulu.com/watch/194728/saturday-night-live-message-from-tsa
  • [19:18:50] <koen> no hulu for us non-merkins
  • [19:19:04] <Crofton|work> ah, yes
  • [19:19:30] <Crofton|work> We had a conversation at lunch about using the VT VPN from Ireland to watch Netflix ...
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  • [19:43:20] <GatorBoz> can a JTAG debugger write directly to DRAM?
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  • [20:13:40] <koen> hmmm
  • [20:13:58] <koen> changing ringtones on my phone requires setting up my own tftp server
  • [20:15:53] <pupnik> :)
  • [20:16:50] <koen> I'll have a chat with IT after the hols to ak them to add the CTU ringtone to the main tftpserver
  • [20:17:00] <koen> can't have a 7960 without that, you know
  • [20:19:02] <sakoman__> Crofton|work: do you need me to ship back that USRP proto?
  • [20:19:26] <Crofton|work> I'll ask Matt
  • [20:19:43] <Crofton|work> btw, how is the weather there?
  • [20:22:03] <sakoman__> Crofton|work: cloudy today
  • [20:22:10] <sakoman__> showers every once in a while
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  • [20:22:20] <sakoman__> supposed to get a big storm later today
  • [20:22:44] <Crofton|work> I heard rumours of snow in San Francisco ...
  • [20:22:54] <sakoman__> that would be something!
  • [20:23:06] <sakoman__> Most of the storm went south of us
  • [20:23:18] <sakoman__> so it hasn't been bad here at all
  • [20:24:19] <Crofton|work> looking at the forecast, I have no idea where the snow rumour came from
  • [20:24:34] <sakoman__> I had a board meeting last night in a town 5000' higher in elevation than I'm at and there was no snow there either
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  • [20:45:52] <_av500__> Crofton|work: you have my shipping address?
  • [20:46:57] <ds2> _av500_: the unit you had with you when you were out here... was that a 101 or some other size?
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  • [21:19:42] <_av500__> ds2: i had both with me
  • [21:19:46] <_av500__> but prolly 101
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  • [21:27:32] <Crofton|work> can you play angry birds on a 101?
  • [21:30:28] <_av500__> of course
  • [21:31:40] <Crofton|work> play netflix?
  • [21:32:20] <_av500__> Crofton|work: not available in old europe
  • [21:32:33] <Crofton|work> what about in new europe?
  • [21:32:38] <_av500__> gimme a tunnel and i will test it
  • [21:32:56] <Crofton|work> give me a 101 and i will test it
  • [21:32:57] <_av500__> tunnel to new europe is not enough
  • [21:33:09] <_av500__> Crofton|work: i wish i could
  • [21:33:31] <_av500__> our sales meetings have become death matches
  • [21:35:58] <Crofton|work> heh
  • [21:37:16] <_av500__> Crofton|work: ill swap you one for the 100 :)
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  • [22:30:30] <cbrake> does anyone know of a micro-usb to HOST adapter that grounds the appropriate OTG pins, etc
  • [22:31:49] <ds2> _av500_: do you know off hand if it is smaller then a letter sized sheet of paper? From what I recall, the thing you had was sized liked a kneeling board (wide)
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  • [23:05:52] <aholler> sales meetings as death matches are great. I'm seeing 10 people around one tablet discussing who will get this one. ;)
  • [23:06:13] <pupnik_> i don't understand the use of the term 'death match'
  • [23:06:20] <pupnik_> 'who gets the hardware?'
  • [23:06:46] <jannau> ds2: 270 x 150 x 12 mm
  • [23:11:55] <aholler> pupnik_: I don't know. someone else used that term and I assume it's like trying to buy a beagle
  • [23:13:19] <pupnik_> if you want a great tablet get the archos A70s
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  • [23:13:56] <aholler> I know of a company which at the begining of this year had to pay 10x the list price to get ti-dsps.
  • [23:14:03] <pupnik_> sexier than anything else i've seen, plus it runs linux
  • [23:14:11] <pupnik_> :/
  • [23:16:00] <pupnik_> angstrom
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  • [23:34:48] <ds2> pupnik: the A101 seems more interesting
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  • [23:35:23] <pupnik_> ds2: if you don't mind the size
  • [23:35:58] <pupnik_> but both seem to be exceptionally light and well balanced units
  • [23:37:38] <ds2> jannau: thanks.
  • [23:37:51] <ds2> pupnik: for size, I use the N900
  • [23:38:08] <ds2> pupnik: the main thing holding me back is that it is android based.
  • [23:38:44] <pupnik_> ds2: well i/m running angstrom right now but the OS needs work
  • [23:39:09] <pupnik_> so friends welcome to join in - particularly those with beagleboard experience
  • [23:39:13] <ds2> pupnik: thinking of refitting it for Meego stuff instead
  • [23:39:33] <pupnik_> user smoku on irc has done a lot for that
  • [23:39:47] <pupnik_> hangs out in #openaos and #meego-arm
  • [23:40:02] <ds2> what I would like to find out is if meego is as least as useable as the 770
  • [23:40:16] <pupnik_> heh heh
  • [23:40:22] <muriani> sweet
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  • [23:40:41] <aholler> i found the 770 unusable. at least the mail-app.
  • [23:40:52] <ds2> trying to scope out a tablet that isn't a tinkering playground
  • [23:40:53] <muriani> a client's gonna hook me up with a couple of Moxa network serial "servers"
  • [23:40:53] <pupnik_> plus we got a nice bootloader that can multiboot android or angstrom or whatever image you drop on it
  • [23:40:57] <pupnik_> don't even need a partition
  • [23:41:02] <ds2> I can build tablets easy enough but...
  • [23:41:10] <muriani> serial connection over tcp/ip :D
  • [23:41:39] <pupnik_> a friend of mine also does work for that kind of thing - comtrol in minnesota
  • [23:42:03] <muriani> This will make futzing around with my beagle much more convenient
  • [23:42:06] <ds2> hardwardwise, IMO, the A stuff could use an outdoor visible screen like the 900
  • [23:42:06] <xxiao> 4910xM207, that's what I found on the new xM board, where can I find the Rev info on board?
  • [23:42:24] <pupnik_> ds2: you're right, but i wasn't willing to wait for that
  • [23:43:41] <xxiao> serial # 4910xM207, nothing showing Rev on board, strange
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  • [23:46:05] <ds2> pupnik: yes, I have concluded that - it was on my original list of things to demand
  • [23:46:43] <pupnik_> are any 'pixelQi' transflective devices coming soon?
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  • [23:47:44] <ds2> I much rather see a traditional transreflective LCD...more mature, less of the issues in software to deal with
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  • [23:51:11] <xxiao> shoot...uboot says it's Rev A???
  • [23:51:34] <aholler> it can't decide if A or B
  • [23:52:07] <xxiao> so there is no way to decide, nothing on the board, and u-boot can't be used.
  • [23:52:27] <xxiao> 4910xM207, does this mean the 207th or 4910th board?
  • [23:52:27] <aholler> there should be a sticker on the board
  • [23:52:53] <xxiao> thank you i saw a stick with a single letter B, guess that's it
  • [23:53:17] <xxiao> microSD image booted fine, will load android soon.
  • [23:54:16] <xxiao> anyone got android 2.3 on xM yet?
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