• [00:00:02] <djlewis> so in that light I will reveal it was a NorthStar system for s-100
  • [00:02:49] <djlewis> which btw, I still have
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  • [00:03:42] <PuffTheMagic> do any of u have any experience getting kexec working on amv7?
  • [00:04:04] <mru> it was broken half a year ago
  • [00:06:40] <destinal> djlewis: shot in the dark - a heath H89? (HDOS)
  • [00:07:07] <djlewis> destinal: i believe that is one of the ones that did use 10 hard sector
  • [00:09:08] <PuffTheMagic> mru: is it broken less than half a year ago?
  • [00:09:17] <mru> I don't know
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  • [00:40:39] <aholler> hmm, is it possible to switch msub to host mode without grounding the id-pin?
  • [00:47:55] <aholler> (with kernel 2.6.37-rc3)
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  • [00:50:46] <mr_mac3> So I got a xM but when I try to boot It up it freezes after it unzips the kernel
  • [00:51:12] <mr_mac3> I am powering it over USB and I've heard that might be the problem
  • [00:51:30] <mr_mac3> I was just wondering if that is correct?
  • [00:51:43] <djlewis> yes
  • [00:52:14] <djlewis> aholler: i read you want a software solution over grounding the pin or using the correct cable?
  • [00:53:18] <aholler> djlewis: sw-solution. I haven't find an otg-cable in the stores here and I'm too lazy to build one
  • [00:53:39] <djlewis> I dont recall a software solution, sorry
  • [00:54:13] <djlewis> that would have been a great place for a header and jumper.
  • [00:54:46] <destinal> djlewis: the usb otg driver doesn't expose a sysfs entry? like can't you echo host> /sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc/mode
  • [00:56:36] <destinal> I don't have an xM yet but I know that's how you'd do it on similar systems with musb
  • [00:56:41] <aholler> that is currently b_idle here and an echo host > doesn work
  • [00:56:58] <aholler> i have a c4
  • [00:57:20] <destinal> aholler: is your device connected?
  • [00:57:56] <destinal> you may have to set host before plugging in
  • [00:59:37] <aholler> doesn't help. I'm using a male mini-b to male-a and a female-a to female-a adaptor to connect the device ;)
  • [00:59:45] <destinal> aholler: http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/a60f1eb301ac86aa says something about needing to modprobe g_zero but that's on a B5
  • [01:01:05] <aholler> hmm, don't have that. will try it using compiling musb with host only, maybe that works
  • [01:01:30] <aholler> but switching it would be nice
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  • [01:18:11] <aholler> hmm, I compie with host mode only and got: musb_hdrc musb_hdrc: incompatible Kconfig role setting
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  • [01:37:56] <djsashaz> I just got my beagleboard, and Im a total newbie, I've googled some resources but not too successful in finding certain things, can anyone point me into the right direction for beginners?
  • [01:38:27] <djlewis> beagleboard.org
  • [01:38:41] <djsashaz> lol thanks been there tried that, not much help
  • [01:38:46] <Kamondelious> djsashaz, what are you trying to do?
  • [01:38:58] <djlewis> http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardBeginners
  • [01:39:43] <djsashaz> well specifically, trying to enable the svideo out on the new xm board, I can see to get it. it dosnt help that im not the best with linux
  • [01:40:34] <djsashaz> I was trying either to just play a video on the svideo out, or move the entire output to make the svideo the primary output
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  • [01:44:34] <mr_mac3> It is true that it is hard to find beginner info for the beagleboard...
  • [01:47:03] <djsashaz> like, I understand some of the basics, but I'm not really sure one a few things, like, heres one, is angstrom the best for the board? or should I be trying something else? has anyone been able to get vlc compiled to work with angstrom? when I do cat.proc, it says angstrom is ubuntu version 2...something, can I run 10 on it? lol
  • [01:47:46] <djlewis> Angstrom on this shannel is mostly supported.
  • [01:47:51] <aholler> djsashaz: try that for s-video: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu#S-Video
  • [01:47:53] <djlewis> s/shannel/channel
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  • [01:48:30] <djsashaz> I came across this, but when do I make this change? in the boot scropt? or do I have to rebuild the kernal?
  • [01:48:49] <djsashaz> I mean boot args,
  • [01:48:52] <aholler> boot.scr
  • [01:50:12] <aholler> or just use "setenv omapdss.def_disp tv" in u-boot
  • [01:50:19] <aholler> shoud work too.
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  • [01:51:00] <djsashaz> heres my lack of linux now, wheres boot.scr, which command dosnt work, and theres no find
  • [01:51:02] <aholler> maybe ubuntu is easier for an absolut beginner, that is supported #ubuntu-arm if I heared that correctly
  • [01:51:17] <djsashaz> hmmm, Ill check that out
  • [01:51:35] <aholler> boot.scr is no linux knowledge. you have to read
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  • [01:51:49] <djsashaz> k, where is it located?
  • [01:52:02] <aholler> google
  • [01:52:09] <djsashaz> lol
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  • [01:52:23] <djsashaz> thanks
  • [01:52:35] <aholler> or elinux.org. there is lot of documentation there.
  • [01:52:41] <djsashaz> thank you
  • [01:52:52] <aholler> np
  • [01:54:02] <djlewis> hehee
  • [01:55:00] <aholler> sorry, but I don't want to read tutorials for you which could be easily found. such depends on which version of which linux you are using, so you should read the beginner tutorials for your specific linux
  • [01:55:01] <djlewis> iirc, jkridner did a presentation using the XM
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  • [01:56:12] <PuffTheMagic> what app do u guys use to access uboot over usb on linux?
  • [01:56:18] <djsashaz> you dont have to explain your self, I just had a long day and wqas unsuccesful in finding answers, I got to this before and googled the hell out of it, and wasnt able to find it, so I guess I will ahve to keep trying
  • [01:56:20] <PuffTheMagic> does minicom do the trick or do i need something else
  • [01:56:48] <djlewis> djsashaz: http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/BeagleBoardDiagnosticsNext
  • [01:57:28] <djsashaz> thanks, I'll look into it
  • [01:59:02] <aholler> hmm, that Kconfig message comes up because one must compile musb in otg-mode on the beagleboard.
  • [02:00:06] <djlewis> I disagree with the person saying or agreeing that information is hard to find for the beagleboards
  • [02:00:27] <djlewis> it was plentiful over two years ago and even more so now.
  • [02:00:28] <djsashaz> wait, I said for beginners
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  • [02:00:43] <djlewis> it is there. Unless you are a beginner googler ;)
  • [02:00:50] <djsashaz> cmon now
  • [02:00:54] <djsashaz> thats not needed
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  • [02:03:35] <aholler> PuffTheMagic: i've used g_ether on the beagle and cdc_ether on the pc
  • [02:04:07] <aholler> that will give you a network connection (for using ssh) if correctly setup
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  • [02:05:05] <djlewis> djsashaz: btw: welcome to the group :)
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  • [02:06:33] <djsashaz> thanks!
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  • [02:07:18] <djlewis> djsashaz: dont be brittle, there are many different personalities here. all good people.
  • [02:08:11] <djsashaz> I know. It's been forever since I've done irc.... lol I was a child last time I was here :S
  • [02:09:36] <djsashaz> the user.scr is when slecting the secondary boot right? doing the hold user with reset? and is there anywhere specific that i need to add the line for the svideo out?
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  • [02:15:18] <aholler> PuffTheMagic: uups, I've read your question wrong. to communicate with u-boot, screen /dev/ttyUSB0 115200 sould do the trick. quit screen with ctrl-a shift-k
  • [02:16:11] <PuffTheMagic> i have no ttyUSB*
  • [02:16:12] <aholler> I find screen more comfortable than to fiddle with minicomm
  • [02:16:20] <PuffTheMagic> trying to figure out what kmod im missing
  • [02:17:22] <aholler> usbserial
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  • [02:17:51] <PuffTheMagic> aholler: thats loaded but i have no device entry
  • [02:18:47] <aholler> hmm, than I don't know, never communicated with uboot using usb ;)
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  • [02:19:19] <aholler> maybe your u-boot is too old.
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  • [02:28:09] <cwillu> PuffTheMagic, got a ttyACM*?
  • [02:28:19] <cwillu> (or something like that()
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  • [02:50:55] <PuffTheMagic> cwillu: no i dont
  • [02:51:01] <PuffTheMagic> maybe it is is a version issue
  • [02:51:08] <PuffTheMagic> anyone have alink to uboot with usb support
  • [02:51:21] <ds2> Hmmmm
  • [02:56:35] <djlewis> mmmmmH
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  • [03:20:55] <PuffTheMagic> /dev/ttyUSB should show up automatically right
  • [03:21:02] <PuffTheMagic> after i load uboot
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  • [05:50:53] <doftje> Does anyone have experience with u-boot?
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  • [07:09:31] <_av500_> gm
  • [07:12:58] <ds2> gm _av500_
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  • [09:14:32] <hitlin37> i have converted a macro from armcc to gas format...but its not working.....any idea,what's wrong in my conversion-->http://pastebin.com/X04ZrG1s
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  • [12:28:41] <aholler_> av500: yesterday a man at saturn showed me a paper which reads that he already should have 30 10.1 ;)
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  • [12:56:08] <_av500_> paperless ftw :)
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  • [13:16:52] <aholler_> good for me. otherwise I might have bought one it feeled good ;)
  • [13:18:53] <mru> _av500_: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/mobile/entertainment-arts-11846906
  • [13:25:00] <aholler_> s/it/if it/
  • [13:26:02] <_av500_> mru: thx
  • [13:26:23] <_av500_> aholler_: they will come
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  • [13:41:06] <aholler_> mru: sure, but I don't need one. good that I'm visiting such stores seldom ;)
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  • [13:47:15] <aholler_> it just was so funny, the guy there walked into the office and came back the letter which he showed me. ;)
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  • [14:49:42] <PuffTheMagic> so i asked this last night but didnt get a answer
  • [14:49:54] <PuffTheMagic> as soon as a push uboot with omap3_usbload
  • [14:50:09] <PuffTheMagic> should a ttyUSB get created on my linux box?
  • [14:50:39] <koen> more likely a ttyACM
  • [14:50:47] <koen> if you mean for uboot usbtty
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  • [14:54:04] <PuffTheMagic> hmm i get neither
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  • [15:02:31] <aholler> PuffTheMagic: looked at dmesg?
  • [15:04:35] <PuffTheMagic> ya
  • [15:04:41] <PuffTheMagic> i mean i see the TI device in lsusb
  • [15:04:42] <PuffTheMagic> and
  • [15:04:45] <PuffTheMagic> drivers/usb/core/inode.c: creating file '025'
  • [15:04:45] <PuffTheMagic> usb 1-3: usbfs: process 19313 (omap3_usbload) did not claim interface 0 before use
  • [15:04:51] <PuffTheMagic> is the suspect
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  • [15:06:56] <aholler> you should see a different device vid/pid when usbtty is activated
  • [15:07:07] <aholler> what u-boot you are using?
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  • [15:12:02] <aholler> usbtty might not be active in every u-boot for omap found on the net. having a serial by hand could be a good idea to check what happens
  • [15:13:13] <PuffTheMagic> aholler: i was first using a uboot.bin from some beagleboad thread
  • [15:13:33] <PuffTheMagic> i also have a x-loader image that says it has usb
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  • [15:20:17] <aholler> you could try the one from sakoman: http://feeds.sakoman.com/feeds/gnome-r12/images/beagleboard/current/
  • [15:21:23] <PuffTheMagic> k
  • [15:22:37] <PuffTheMagic> could not send length
  • [15:24:03] <aholler> oh, have forgotten you are using that with omap3-isbload
  • [15:24:42] <aholler> hmm, than you can't use a normal u-boot, because this doesn't fit into the sram.
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  • [15:25:32] <aholler> at least that is what I assume. so you might search for an usb-enabled x-load or similiar
  • [15:26:19] <PuffTheMagic> ya
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  • [15:26:29] <PuffTheMagic> i had to use x-loader first last time i got this working i think
  • [15:26:38] <PuffTheMagic> and then chainload uboot
  • [15:26:53] <aholler> thats the way you have to use.
  • [15:27:56] <aholler> I don't think it is possible to shrink down an u-boot which offers usbtty so that it will fit into sram
  • [15:29:32] <aholler> put x-load and u-boot into the nand once you have working versions of those might be the best idea to use bb with usb only
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  • [15:30:58] <aholler> do to that you might use an sd-card to load a working u-boot from
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  • [18:20:54] <mellis> hey can i connect the serial port of the beage xm straght into the serial port of my pc?
  • [18:21:16] <_av500_> yes
  • [18:21:21] <mru> if you have a cable that fits it should work
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  • [18:21:43] <mellis> ah good i was just worried about the pc serial voltages
  • [18:21:44] <mru> I plug a usb-serial cable directly into the xm
  • [18:22:27] <mellis> yeah i just got my xm today anjd dont have a serial to usb
  • [18:22:40] <mru> any serial will do
  • [18:23:21] <mellis> ah good i had to hack together the cable but hopefully it will work
  • [18:23:34] <mru> serial ports are hard to fry
  • [18:26:39] <ds2> it can be done :D
  • [18:26:52] <mru> yes, but it takes more than 12V
  • [18:27:08] <mru> which is the traditional beagle-frying voltage
  • [18:27:53] <mellis> so 12v into the serial port wont fry anything ?
  • [18:28:10] <ds2> in theory +/-15V into the serial port is fine
  • [18:28:25] <mru> 15V is the spec
  • [18:28:43] <mru> I don't remember the high/low thresholds
  • [18:29:45] <ds2> it is like +/-4 ot 5V
  • [18:30:13] <ds2> but PC style ones sometimes accept 0-5V thresholds
  • [18:30:37] <mellis> it works!
  • [18:30:39] <mellis> Texas Instruments X-Loader 1.4.4ss (Aug 19 2010 - 02:49:27) Beagle xM Rev A Reading boot sector Loading u-boot.bin from mmc U-Boot 2010.03-dirty (Aug 20 2010 - 20:50:46) OMAP3630/3730-GP ES 2.0, CPU-OPP2, L3-165MHz, OMAP3 Beagle board + LPDDR/NAND I2C: ready DRAM: 512 MB NAND: 0 MiB *** Warning - bad CRC or NAND, using default environment In: serial Out: serial Err: serial Probing for expansion boards, if none are
  • [18:30:54] <mru> yes, we know what it prints
  • [18:31:58] <mellis> lol good point im just happy i didnt get the magic blue smoke
  • [18:33:33] <mellis> humm i get a kernal panic [ 65.865783] Kernel panic - not syncing: Fatal exception in interrupt) any ideas?
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  • [18:39:40] <mru> that's the software equivalent of blue smoke
  • [18:39:41] <mellis> ohh shit is it fucked
  • [18:39:41] <mru> obviously something went wrong
  • [18:39:41] <mru> I bet it failed to find the rootfs
  • [18:39:41] <koen> use +5V to power it
  • [18:39:42] <mru> what he means is, use the barrel jack, not mini-usb
  • [18:39:42] <ds2> yes, use 5V on the barrel connector to power it
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  • [18:39:42] <mellis> ahh ok 2 mins
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  • [19:37:54] <mru> koen: more omapfbplay updates for you to find faults in
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  • [19:58:35] <_av500__> mru: gee, you should start to post patches to a ml :)
  • [20:00:10] <mru> what do you think of my "static plugins" architecture btw?
  • [20:02:21] <_av500__> one day i will understand how it works
  • [20:02:48] <mru> it uses arch-independent asm files
  • [20:03:14] <_av500__> i miss libtc :)
  • [20:03:51] <mru> libtc is halfway sane actually
  • [20:04:21] <_av500__> the half written by you? or the other :)
  • [20:04:59] <mru> I actually wrote all of it
  • [20:05:06] <mru> there's nothing left of the other guy's code
  • [20:09:21] <_av500__> ic
  • [20:15:05] <aholler> hmm, just had read about 15??? for some codecs for archos. for what are they needed?
  • [20:15:13] <mru> but there's still some insanity in it
  • [20:20:33] <_av500__> aholler: mpeg2 and ac3
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  • [20:24:04] <aholler> oh, interesting business plan ;)
  • [20:26:34] <aholler> and i assume a registration somewhere is required to get them. that raises the actual price at least about 100???. ;)
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  • [20:34:43] <mru> _av500__: that's one very expensive bit...
  • [20:35:31] <aholler> the licenses for mpeg2 and ac3?
  • [20:35:57] <mru> _av500__: I assume this is the 1-bit plugin we're talking about
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  • [20:38:12] <koen> coded abstraction interface, eh?
  • [20:39:31] <koen> mru: it looks like v4l2 would work on omap3 as well now?
  • [20:40:05] <mru> it would work if the omap3 v4l driver weren't buggy
  • [20:40:28] <mru> it works for films with nice widths
  • [20:40:36] <mru> like 720 or 1280
  • [20:40:46] <mru> crazy bunny widths like 854 don't work
  • [20:40:58] <mru> I have a trivial patch to fix it
  • [20:41:04] <mru> but I forgot it at work
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  • [21:15:05] <_av500__> 854 works for me on omap3
  • [21:16:26] <mru> but you're not using omapfbplay
  • [21:19:23] <koen> archosfbplay
  • [21:19:53] <mru> if fails if you request a bigger line stride than it was going to give you by default
  • [21:20:38] <koen> is that with vrfb off or on?
  • [21:20:42] <mru> off
  • [21:21:00] <koen> I remember vaibhav fixing such a bug, but I forgot if it was with vrfb off or on
  • [21:21:16] <koen> too bad vrfb sucks soo much bw on omap3
  • [21:23:25] <mru> omap chips have nice parts badly put together
  • [21:27:56] <mru> maybe it's fixed in some later kernel that I was running
  • [21:32:32] <_av500__> mru: stride is next 16pel multiple iirc
  • [21:33:14] <mru> v4l docs say it's whatever users asks for if that is possible within hw limits
  • [21:33:26] <mru> the driver totally ignores the user's request
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  • [23:17:40] <mellis> hey i have the demo image booted how do i switch the video output over to the s-video port from the serial console
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  • [23:20:20] <mellis> can any one help?
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  • [23:28:36] <thurbad> mellis, you need to modify your kernel boot arguments
  • [23:29:31] <mellis> aww that sucsk you know any tutorials on how to do it?
  • [23:30:04] <djsashaz> mellis, if you find it, let me know, I've been tryin gsince last night
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  • [23:30:44] <mellis> aww noooos lol
  • [23:30:53] <djsashaz> I ttired to modify the .scr file on mine, and I had no success, and stupid me I didnt make a backup copy of the file, and now i have to start from scratch
  • [23:33:55] <thurbad> mellis it depends a little on your existing uboot environment
  • [23:35:14] <thurbad> if you can go into u-boot at bootup by hitting a key before the timeout and paste the results of 'printenv' to pastebin can probably get you sorted out
  • [23:44:19] <mellis> ah ok 2 secs
  • [23:45:15] <djsashaz> anyone know where I can get the default user.scr for the xmtest bootimage?
  • [23:46:47] <mellis> http://pastebin.com/GYzsGv32
  • [23:47:48] <djsashaz> thanks, but that dosnt look like the default one ?
  • [23:48:15] <mellis> no sorry that was ment for thurbad
  • [23:50:22] <djsashaz> ah
  • [23:51:38] <thurbad> the easiest thing is probably to create a boot.scr since you're going to have to change mmcargs and it's fairly long
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  • [23:53:58] <thurbad> do you have an ntsc or pal tv, or something else?
  • [23:54:06] <mellis> pal tv
  • [23:54:51] <djsashaz> can anyone help with the default user.scr from the demo xmtest?
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  • [23:56:42] <mellis> djsashaz you have to redownload the test image
  • [23:57:32] <thurbad> I think he's asking where to do that
  • [23:57:47] <djsashaz> im doing that, I was just looking to see if anyone could pastebin it for me
  • [23:58:02] <mellis> ahh ok http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/BeagleBoardDiagnosticsNext?spec=svn472#Board_and_peripheral_setup
  • [23:59:15] <thurbad> mellis, do you already have a boot.scr that you use?
  • [23:59:41] <mellis> its just the demo image ?