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  • [00:02:21] <jkridner|work1> any UT students online?
  • [00:02:31] <yeh> me :)
  • [00:02:43] <jkridner|work1> hi yeh
  • [00:02:47] <hpham> me too
  • [00:02:48] <ThomasB> here too
  • [00:03:09] <prpplague> jkridner|work1: hey bud
  • [00:03:17] <prpplague> jkridner|work1: hows biz?
  • [00:03:20] <jkridner|work1> hey prpplague.
  • [00:03:27] <jkridner|work1> biz is great!
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  • [00:05:42] <justin_p> ut student here
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  • [00:07:42] <justin_p> lets get this party started
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  • [00:10:10] <justin_p> has anyone had anything useful happen with their BB yet?
  • [00:11:07] <jkridner> I have. :)
  • [00:11:16] <cwicks> Hi Justin_p - Have you been able to update http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Beagle_Board_Open_Source_Design_Challenge yet?
  • [00:11:21] <jkridner> everybody load some sort of project draft?
  • [00:12:40] <justin_p> my partner has our board I will make sure he gives that a try
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  • [00:14:45] <cwicks> Welcom jtessler and ddompe are you UT students?
  • [00:15:05] <jtessler> cwicks: Yes, I am. Sorry I am late.
  • [00:15:31] <cwicks> no problem jtessler, we are glad you are here -
  • [00:15:56] <hpham> do we have to be on the phone conference and irc, or is irc sufficient?
  • [00:16:00] <jtessler> cwicks: should I join the conference call now?
  • [00:16:04] <cwicks> If anyone wants to join via phone - please dial in toll free 877.561.6828 and use x54043628#
  • [00:16:09] <ddompe> cwicks: no, I'm not UT student
  • [00:16:22] <hpham> ah, that's a different conference number than was in the email
  • [00:16:35] <yeh> Yeah, I've been trying to join the one in the mail and it was on hold.
  • [00:18:13] <czhang> hey everyone
  • [00:18:22] <katie_> if you call in, say hello :)
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  • [00:21:18] <xpconanfan> Anybody here?
  • [00:21:38] <yeh> yep
  • [00:21:44] <xpconanfan> woo hoo~
  • [00:21:45] <justin_p> yep
  • [00:22:02] <xpconanfan> first time somebody actually replied...
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  • [00:22:12] <xpconanfan> So are you guys competing in the challenge
  • [00:22:24] <justin_p> yes
  • [00:22:31] <ThomasB> yep
  • [00:22:39] <jtessler> yessir
  • [00:22:41] <justin_p> 877.561.6828 and use x54043628#
  • [00:22:43] <czhang> ah just dialed in
  • [00:22:51] <xpconanfan> have you guys decided on the project?
  • [00:22:59] <czhang> us?
  • [00:23:32] <xpconanfan> anybody, just curious
  • [00:23:46] <jtessler> BeagleBand here
  • [00:23:55] <xpconanfan> we're working on Sheldon's "virtual presence device"~
  • [00:24:04] <yeh> I just updated the wiki -- we are Beagle Sight.
  • [00:24:15] <czhang> sweet
  • [00:24:19] <czhang> (I'm with yeh)
  • [00:24:20] <xpconanfan> beagleband?
  • [00:24:26] <xpconanfan> instrument stuff?
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  • [00:25:17] <jtessler> xpconanfan: yes, we plan to make a looping device with a very easy-to-use interface
  • [00:26:06] <ThomasB> does anybody have any experience using CMUSphinx for speech recognition by any chance?
  • [00:26:10] <mouse-_> _av500_: ping
  • [00:26:27] <mru> ThomasB: I've heard it's painfully slow
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  • [00:27:08] <ThomasB> really? Have you heard of a better alternative?
  • [00:27:09] <katie_> ThomasB - once upon a time a long time ago... 2nd the bulky/slow commentary
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  • [00:27:20] <xpconanfan> interesting, are you using beagle touch for that
  • [00:27:29] <cwicks> UT Students : please answer the roll call by putting in your project name into the IRC and letting us know you are here.
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  • [00:28:27] <cwicks> UT Students : if you don't yet have a project name on this page - http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Beagle_Board_Open_Source_Design_Challenge
  • [00:29:20] <cwicks> UT STudents : please go ahead and tell us your team project name now and load it onto that URL. You can always update your name if your project becomes clearer
  • [00:29:44] <xpconanfan> Virtual Presence Team is virtually present~
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  • [00:30:01] <cwicks> Welcom Virtual Presence Team!
  • [00:30:05] <hpham> TurtleCam (just added to wiki page) present
  • [00:30:21] <jkridner|work> BeagleBand sounds pretty reasonable to me...
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  • [00:30:28] <jkridner|work> others here have thoughts on it?
  • [00:30:34] <jkridner|work> http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Beagle_Board_Open_Source_Design_Challenge#Project_Submissions
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  • [00:30:53] <justin_p> thomasB, im on the conference channel
  • [00:31:14] <xpconanfan> BeagleBand should be fun
  • [00:31:16] <cwicks> hpham Turtlecam - welcome - IRC is sufficient if you like - how is your project going?
  • [00:31:50] <hpham> i'm actually in the conference call too - the project is hitting some problems
  • [00:31:55] <mouse-_> <- just looking for help on getting droid/froyo installed on the xM :)
  • [00:32:03] <xpconanfan> cwicks - we haven't received our board yet...
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  • [00:32:14] <mouse-_> i've followed the 0xdroid directions, unzipped the zip file, renamed uImage.bin to uImage, even copied angstrom's mlo and u-boot.bin to the card so it would boot
  • [00:32:18] <mouse-_> all i get is a sad 'Uncompressing Linux... done, booting the kernel.' and then silence, from the serial port ...
  • [00:32:30] <_pseudonym> cwicks: i'm also a UT student
  • [00:32:39] <katie_> mouse - did you set the android console in bootargs?
  • [00:32:54] <_pseudonym> xpconanfan: no board here either
  • [00:33:01] <dwahler> yep, I'm waiting on a board as well
  • [00:33:18] <mouse-_> katie_: I might not have! the directions aren't so clear on that
  • [00:33:52] <xpconanfan> Unite, No boarders!
  • [00:34:34] <cwicks> xpconanfan - I have rec'd the cables today and packed everything to ship to UT.
  • [00:34:44] <_pseudonym> I had asked at the distribution meeting about getting a upgrade to the xM, but was turned down since it wouldnt' be fair. Now I'm thinking it's not fair the other way that others get and extra 2 weeks
  • [00:34:56] <_pseudonym> an extra *
  • [00:35:20] <xpconanfan> technically the challenge started in September, so we actually lost more than a month...
  • [00:35:58] <_pseudonym> right, but no one had a board until 10/7 unless they bought their own
  • [00:35:58] <xpconanfan> but life is never fair, is it...
  • [00:36:04] <cwicks> UT Students and Community on our call - cwicks is IRC only right now as there is a construction project causing noise near my office :(
  • [00:36:34] <xpconanfan> somebody make a beagle noise guard...
  • [00:36:45] <yeh> Just to throw out a more detailed description, with BeagleSight we're planning on possibly using opencv to do visual processing on webcam data to get a depth field, and relay that to an array of actuators (maybe vibration motors) that'll give tactile feedback about a user's surroundings.
  • [00:36:46] <jkridner|work> :)
  • [00:37:05] <jkridner|work> hard for me to hear on the call. something about bad kernel versions
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  • [00:37:32] <xpconanfan> -yeh- sounds like we need your project before we do ours~~
  • [00:38:11] <yeh> heh, dependency issues always annoying to resolve.
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  • [00:38:53] <yeh> by the way, does TI have a catalog of parts that we could get access to, either for free or subsidized?
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  • [00:39:12] <xpconanfan> yeh - Great question!
  • [00:39:17] <xpconanfan> I want to know that too
  • [00:39:28] <_pseudonym> yeh: ti.com :P
  • [00:39:33] <xpconanfan> like parallax motors and stuff
  • [00:40:00] <yeh> _pseudonym: guess I should peruse that.
  • [00:40:28] <_pseudonym> xpconanfan: i don't think TI does to much on the actuator side
  • [00:40:34] <_pseudonym> too much*
  • [00:40:38] <mouse-_> katie_: have any idea which variable to setenv? i've googled so much that everything is running together :( lol
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  • [00:41:13] <_pseudonym> anyone from the virtual presence device team here?
  • [00:41:17] <xpconanfan> me
  • [00:41:20] <katie_> androidboot.console=ttyS0
  • [00:41:26] <hitlin37_> mru,this c6accel api's for fft.any idea about their performance as compared to neon implementation
  • [00:41:35] <_pseudonym> on your wiki entry, s/indent/intend/
  • [00:41:50] <xpconanfan> what do you mean...
  • [00:41:50] <_pseudonym> xpconanfan: ^
  • [00:41:52] <jkridner|work1> ping me if I'm missing something. can't really understand the call.
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  • [00:42:19] <_pseudonym> xpconanfan: "We indent to bring a solution" vs "We intend to bring a solution"
  • [00:42:26] <xpconanfan> oh...
  • [00:42:28] <xpconanfan> I see
  • [00:42:30] <xpconanfan> thanks!
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  • [00:42:45] <_pseudonym> it was bothering me, but i didn't want to edit someone else's project
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  • [00:43:42] <xpconanfan> thank you!
  • [00:44:34] <xpconanfan> what are you working on _pseudonym
  • [00:44:48] <_pseudonym> media extender
  • [00:45:13] <_pseudonym> thin client interface between network and TV
  • [00:45:21] <xpconanfan> like apple tv?
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  • [00:45:45] <_pseudonym> not familiar with it
  • [00:46:23] <_pseudonym> similar, i suppose
  • [00:47:57] <xpconanfan> or like google tv?
  • [00:48:29] <xpconanfan> basically these products enable you to access internet content on your tv
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  • [00:49:46] <_pseudonym> that, plus access to a local media server on your home network like a HTPC
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  • [00:50:42] <_pseudonym> I have a ATSC tuner to use my desktop as a DVR
  • [00:51:18] <_pseudonym> also play media off a USB device
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  • [00:52:05] <zach_wasson> did i miss that roll call thing?
  • [00:52:14] <zach_wasson> for the beagle board challenge
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  • [00:52:49] <_pseudonym> cwicks: ^
  • [00:53:26] <cwicks> Hi zach_wasson: welcome to the UT IRC chat
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  • [00:54:02] <cwicks> UT Students: we are also on the phone > please dial in toll free 877.561.6828 and use x54043628#
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  • [00:56:12] <cwicks> xpconanfan and _pseudonym: please make sure I have your email addresses?
  • [00:56:45] <cwicks> hi jason are you on the phone?
  • [00:56:48] <_pseudonym> cwicks: i got the email about the new phone number, so i assume you have it
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  • [00:57:12] <_pseudonym> unless you're making a separate list for people still without boards
  • [00:58:36] <cruzm> So how is that going to work btw? For the teams that still don't have boards?
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  • [00:59:45] <jkridner|work1> thanks everyone for joining....
  • [01:00:02] <jtessler> thank you for the help
  • [01:00:04] <jkridner|work1> I'll still be hanging here for a while if anyone is having challenges getting their BeagleBoards running the labs.
  • [01:00:08] <cwicks> cruzm: do we have your paperwork? what is your team project name?
  • [01:00:20] <cwicks> cathy will still hang out in the IRC for a while
  • [01:00:48] <zach_wasson> So have y'all figured who the boards will be shipped to and when we can pick them up?
  • [01:00:58] <czhang> I'm gonna log out now
  • [01:01:04] <czhang> thanks for the help
  • [01:01:27] <_pseudonym> zach_wasson: they have our address from the signup forms, so i assumed they'd be mailed directly to us
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  • [01:11:24] <cwicks> UT Students: beagles and cables have been rec'd from the vendor by TI today and are shipping tomorrow to Marliz Lorenty who will deliver to "Daryl" can someone tell me Daryl's surname?
  • [01:12:44] <jlev> I'm assuming it's Daryl Goodnight
  • [01:13:01] <mouse-_> this is my brother Daryl, and this is my other brother Daryl
  • [01:13:26] <_pseudonym> cwicks: http://www.ece.utexas.edu/directory/directory_details.cfm?id=18
  • [01:15:14] <cwicks> _pseudonym: do you have my email address?
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  • [01:20:27] <_pseudonym> cwicks: yes
  • [01:20:39] <_pseudonym> c-wicks@
  • [01:20:55] <cwicks> can you send me a quick email please
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  • [01:21:35] <_pseudonym> cwicks: done
  • [01:24:11] <justin_p> at the October 4 demo/meeting thing on campus, there was some trouble with the data on the SD cards when trying to boot Linux; where can we find the necessary file(s) to try reloading the image onto our SD?
  • [01:24:38] <cruzm> http://beagleboard.org/challenge
  • [01:24:57] <justin_p> thank you much
  • [01:25:02] <cruzm> Not a prob
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  • [01:34:24] <Animule> http://richardlagendijk.nl/foto/cip/mix_disk_notcher_04.jpg
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  • [01:48:45] <marlin> hello everyone.
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  • [01:53:30] <marlin> will it be ok to talk via a ipv6 http proxy?
  • [01:54:26] <cruzm> We'll find out soon if nothing bad happens
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  • [02:56:50] <djlewis> oh but the joys :( of trying to get a new SD to work
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  • [03:30:35] <djlewis> hmm, my bb c2 is more stale at 500Mhz
  • [03:30:51] <djlewis> with latest Angstrom demo
  • [03:31:05] <djlewis> s/stale/stable
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  • [03:41:35] <ds2> Heh
  • [03:41:41] <ds2> spoiled by 1GHz systems? ;)
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  • [03:44:51] <lovehandle> Any other UT students here that are participating in the contest?
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  • [03:51:35] <Animule> There are days I'd like to press ^C on the keyboard of life.
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  • [03:55:55] <hitlin37> u can try ^z before that
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  • [04:03:07] <djlewis> ds2: hi, no. they changed mpurate to default to 600 so I had to tune it down
  • [04:03:28] <djlewis> was getting mostly SD card errors
  • [04:03:40] <djlewis> forcing it to ro
  • [04:03:52] <ds2> djlewis: you should be able to clock down the SD controller
  • [04:04:06] <djlewis> mpurate=500 works
  • [04:04:18] <ds2> but that slows down everything, IIRC
  • [04:04:31] <djlewis> by what? 6%
  • [04:04:42] <ds2> sure
  • [04:04:45] <djlewis> or 1/6th i mean
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  • [04:05:45] <ds2> or just use the NAND :D
  • [04:06:36] <djlewis> we need a us angstrom mirror
  • [04:07:20] <ds2> just build it yourself :P
  • [04:07:29] <ds2> (that's if you must use it)
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  • [04:10:47] <djlewis> yes, i should get me a large hd and setup OE again
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  • [04:14:19] <ds2> get ram
  • [04:14:25] <ds2> or sheeps to go with it
  • [04:21:54] <_pseudonym> lovehandle: yes
  • [04:23:19] <lovehandle> i was just wondering how/if the dialing a phone # system worked, and if anyone was still on it
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  • [04:40:07] <hitlin37> sh oebb.sh config "what here?" for xm
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  • [04:45:04] <_av500_> gm
  • [04:46:44] <djlewis> av500: gm
  • [04:47:06] <ds2> morning _av500_
  • [04:47:13] <_av500_> havin fun with the BB again?
  • [04:49:34] <djlewis> yeah, sure, what you say :(
  • [04:49:45] <_av500_> ??
  • [04:50:00] <djlewis> i want to do a certain thing ant then all kinds of things have to be done to make it possible
  • [04:50:14] <djlewis> s/ant/and
  • [04:50:21] <ds2> can you say "dependencies" ? :D
  • [04:50:31] <djlewis> like getting a simple sd fs setup
  • [04:50:45] <ds2> that part shouldn't need much
  • [04:50:45] <_av500_> djlewis: "check cabling" :)
  • [04:50:48] <djlewis> and the angstrom feed is sooo sloooowwww
  • [04:52:00] <djlewis> _av500_: you may be closer to a check point than you know ;)
  • [04:52:41] <_av500_> i will be close to a CPB one soon :)
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  • [05:16:20] <daurnimator> so... I can't seem to get any video out from my xm
  • [05:16:58] <hitlin37> why
  • [05:17:48] <daurnimator> good question
  • [05:18:30] <djlewis> well at least you got your serial working
  • [05:19:06] <daurnimator> djlewis, yeah, built myself a cable at uni :P
  • [05:20:47] <daurnimator> how can I test video output? I'm currently booted in the validation image.
  • [05:25:38] <djlewis> by validation I suspect Angstrom?
  • [05:25:56] <djlewis> what kind of monitor are you using?
  • [05:26:08] <daurnimator> by valdation I mean http://beagleboard-validation.s3.amazonaws.com/deploy/201008201549/sd/beagleboard-validation-201008201549.img.gz
  • [05:26:30] <daurnimator> benq 24"
  • [05:27:05] <djlewis> type uname -a
  • [05:27:17] <djlewis> paste the line output
  • [05:27:44] <daurnimator> Linux beagleboard 2.6.32 #3 PREEMPT Wed Aug 18 15:53:03 UTC 2010 armv7l unknown
  • [05:28:42] <djlewis> so you do have a hdmi to something cable to your Benq?
  • [05:29:04] <daurnimator> hdmi=>dvi cable plugged into the DVI input
  • [05:29:20] <daurnimator> (i'd use the hdmi input but I don't have a hdmi cable)
  • [05:29:32] <djlewis> do you know the native resolution of your monitor? did you enter it in the boot.scr
  • [05:29:48] <daurnimator> 1920x1080, and no
  • [05:30:20] <djlewis> the monitor "should" auto adjust within limits. does the monitor give any messages?
  • [05:30:47] <djlewis> if you enter menu can you display the info?
  • [05:30:49] <daurnimator> nope, its as if theres no input
  • [05:31:01] <daurnimator> but on the beagle I can query the EDID of the monitor
  • [05:31:09] <djlewis> so perhaps you dont have a gui running?
  • [05:31:56] <djlewis> if it is Angstrom then I suspect it would be gpe-dm (the gui)
  • [05:32:09] <djlewis> type ps ax | grep gpe
  • [05:32:32] <djlewis> do you get any hits other than a line woth grep gpm in it?
  • [05:32:39] <djlewis> s/woth/with
  • [05:32:49] <daurnimator> sorry, I've turned it off for a sec, gonna swap for demo image
  • [05:32:52] <djlewis> i mena gpe
  • [05:33:07] <daurnimator> just my laptop (only thing with an sd slot) is frozen >.<
  • [05:33:17] <djlewis> hmmm, you havent doen all your homework yet?
  • [05:33:28] <daurnimator> ?
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  • [05:33:47] <djlewis> trying all possibilities before asking ;)
  • [05:37:57] <djlewis> it may be late to mention that one should not plug the monitor to BB with power on.
  • [05:38:07] <djlewis> or unplug
  • [05:38:36] <daurnimator> i know that one :)
  • [05:38:43] <djlewis> cool :)
  • [05:39:22] <djlewis> i'm over an hour opkg installing task-native-sdk... :(
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  • [05:51:59] <djlewis> gotta get some shut eye, later and gn
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  • [06:22:46] <hitlin37> how do i go to u-boot prompt?
  • [06:23:59] <av500> hit return to stop autoboot
  • [06:30:13] <hitlin37> nothing happened
  • [06:30:19] <hitlin37> it goes on to boot
  • [06:32:26] <hitlin37> it says to stop autoboot,but im not able to stop it
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  • [06:35:14] <tasslehoff> koen: compiling qt4-embedded-gles doesn't give me the powervr-plugin. the do_package-log in qt4-embedded-gles doesn't mention it.
  • [06:35:42] <av500> hitlin37: and serial console in linux works?
  • [06:36:57] <hitlin37> im using this serial to usb ,it displays but does take inputs(flow control none)
  • [06:37:25] <av500> hitlin37: and serial console in linux works?
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  • [06:59:24] <hitlin37> im changing the minicom settings now
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  • [07:12:34] <hitlin37> i guess my settings are not correct,i can see data on console,but it does not take data from console...
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  • [07:17:56] <av500> hitlin37: your serial cable could be wrong
  • [07:18:03] <av500> there are 2 kinds of DB9 to IDC10
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  • [07:23:09] <hitlin37> i hav something like this,and it shows on lsusb as prolific usb to serial http://www.google.co.in/imgres?imgurl=http://adapterz.com/prod_imgs/USB_Serial_Prolific_single_roll.jpg&imgrefurl=http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php%3Ft%3D1005216&usg=__UjWBtVT9bJEWTNTLWKolU_Lygs4=&h=311&w=500&sz=27&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=7JpbZ3Ib4IckYM:&tbnh=125&tbnw=190&prev=/images%3Fq%3DProlific%2BTechnology,%2BInc.%2BPL2303%2BSerial%2BPort%26um%
  • [07:23:45] <hitlin37> i will then get a serial to serial then
  • [07:23:59] <av500> hitlin37: XM?
  • [07:24:03] <hitlin37> yes
  • [07:24:05] <av500> ah
  • [07:24:09] <av500> that should work then
  • [07:25:06] <hitlin37> yes,it shows everything,but its not taking my input
  • [07:25:52] <hitlin37> i can see ,it says press any key to stop autoboot...but nothing
  • [07:26:03] <av500> and you are sure you have flow control off?
  • [07:26:08] <av500> both SW and HW
  • [07:27:21] <hitlin37> it says for HW and SW as No
  • [07:29:13] <ds2> Hmmmmm
  • [07:31:39] <hitlin37> i was trying MACHINE=beagleboard bitbake base-image,after 3 hours it stopped.any idea at which location i have the base image now
  • [07:32:32] <dm8tbr> in a subdirectory of the work directory I'd expect
  • [07:32:58] <tasslehoff> hitlin37: what he said, most likely in deploy/glibc/images/beagleboard/
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  • [07:40:15] <hitlin37> it created three directories,bitbake,download(consists of tar files) and openembedded
  • [07:40:34] <hitlin37> do u mean in openembedded directory?
  • [07:44:16] <hitlin37> ls contrib/deploy says nfs README
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  • [07:45:24] <hitlin37> or do i need to complete this step firstMACHINE=your_machine bitbake console-image x11-image(its for GUI version i guess)
  • [07:46:22] <hitlin37> ok got it
  • [07:47:55] <hitlin37> its only 6.2mb (it took me 3 hours to do it)
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  • [07:48:44] <tasslehoff> is there a trick I need to know to debug udev? I try adding debug (echo, logger, echo > someFile), but can't find the output anywhere.
  • [07:49:11] <tasslehoff> adding debug to /etc/udev/scripts/mount.sh, that should've said
  • [07:51:48] <russ> why not output to /tmp/someFIle?
  • [07:52:03] <russ> but really, don't just use a command that is 'echo > /tmp/someFile'
  • [07:52:07] <russ> run a script that does that
  • [07:53:19] <ynezz> koen: hi, isn't it possible to pay something like 6EUR for additional 1TB on Hetzner?
  • [07:53:21] <russ> also, use udevtest
  • [07:53:23] <russ> http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html#testing
  • [07:54:02] <ynezz> koen: "100 MBit/s speed can be optionally restored by committing to pay 6,90 ??? (incl. VAT) per additional TB used."
  • [07:54:06] <koen> ynezz: dunno, ask florian :)
  • [07:54:57] <dm8tbr> ah, the beauty of 'unlimited bandwith'
  • [07:55:17] <ynezz> it's cheap hosting, so no wonder :)
  • [07:55:27] <russ> I gotta say, I am never giving up my $5.99/mo t-zones plan
  • [07:55:48] <dm8tbr> I know more about hetzner than I'd like. So I wouldn't consider it for anything serious.
  • [07:56:34] <ynezz> ok, but for such sites it's ok I think
  • [07:56:58] <dm8tbr> still 7ecu/TB is quite OK in my opinion
  • [07:57:05] <ynezz> yep
  • [07:57:45] <tasslehoff> russ: that is what I did, actually. echo "foo" > /tmp/myfile, but I found no file.
  • [07:59:06] <ynezz> heh, "Embedded Linux Conference Europe 2010 has now sold out"
  • [07:59:26] <ynezz> hope there's enough beer in Cambridge
  • [08:00:07] <koen> it's a university town
  • [08:01:30] <ynezz> yep, that's mainly why I'm so concerned
  • [08:01:35] <russ> tasslehoff, in a script?
  • [08:01:48] <russ> geez, I wish I could make it out to elce
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  • [08:02:23] <tasslehoff> russ: yes, in /etc/udev/scripts/mount.sh. I'm trying to make my ext3-partitions mount with data=ordered instead of data=writeback.
  • [08:03:06] <russ> are you sure the script is running?
  • [08:06:19] <tasslehoff> russ: yes. moving it away made udev sad :)
  • [08:09:32] <hitlin37> i got my base image running ,it was easy......:)
  • [08:10:08] <tasslehoff> The ext3-partitions on my mmc were mounted with data=writeback,sync with the default rules. From what I understand sync is slow and data=writeback can cause dataloss, so I'm a bit puzzled why it is the default.
  • [08:11:15] <hitlin37> now i want to add my own module into kernel.......
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  • [08:14:24] <hitlin37> i guess i need to make my own .bb file
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  • [08:24:45] <dongs> i dont suppose theres people in here hax0ring chumby since its totally related to beagleboard and everything.
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  • [08:33:45] <hitlin37> I want to insert mine module (new driver) into uImage, can u suggest us how we can do this?
  • [08:34:18] <koen> modprobe
  • [08:35:53] <hitlin37> to do modprobe, mine driver should build with same kernel version, but we don't have source to build it for xm.
  • [08:36:50] <hitlin37> whatever source i have,it works fine on bb
  • [08:39:31] <hitlin37> but since then,there are patches added for xm(which we don't have).now i followed OE steps and built my own rootfs for xm
  • [08:40:49] <hitlin37> any suggestion
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  • [08:45:52] <tasslehoff> koen: any idea why I don't get the powervr-plugin when compiling? I have no local changes.
  • [08:48:52] <hitlin37> [13:10:45] <_koen_> "hitlin37: use the angstrom-setup-scripts, those will build a working kernel for xM"
  • [08:49:26] <koen> koen@dominion:/OE/angstrom-dev/deploy/glibc$ ls ipk/armv7a/ | grep pvr | grep -v dbg
  • [08:49:30] <koen> libpvrqwswsegl1_4.6.3-r23.8.6_armv7a.ipk
  • [08:49:32] <koen> libpvrqwswsegl-dev_4.6.3-r23.8.6_armv7a.ipk
  • [08:49:35] <koen> qt4-embedded-plugin-gfxdriver-gfxpvregl_4.6.3-r23.8.6_armv7a.ipk
  • [08:49:36] <hitlin37> it did it,but i need the source to build my driver
  • [08:49:37] <koen> that's what I got when I built it this morning
  • [08:49:41] <hitlin37> *i
  • [08:50:05] <koen> hitlin37: write a recipe that does 'inherit module'
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  • [08:54:18] <tasslehoff> koen: yeah. no such files in my deploy, but lots of pvr-stuff in my work-dir. http://pastebin.com/gKd8xJUV
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  • [08:56:23] <itv> hello
  • [08:57:03] <itv> anyone running 0xdroid on beagleboard, with Logilink USB-to-RJ45?
  • [09:02:07] <_koen_> tasslehoff: so it built the all the things, but you say you aren't getting .ipk files?
  • [09:02:59] <tasslehoff> _koen_: correct.
  • [09:03:29] <tasslehoff> I get all the ipk's for the gfx-drivers in qt4-embedded (not -gles)
  • [09:03:49] <_koen_> could you pastebin a list of all the ipks it generates?
  • [09:04:00] <_koen_> bitbake -b qt4-embedded-gles_4.6.3.bb -c package_write -f
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  • [09:05:39] <koen> July: 5.4TB
  • [09:05:42] <koen> cute
  • [09:07:26] <hitlin37> actually koen,i don't now how to write a recipe,could you point me where to start from
  • [09:07:38] <hitlin37> *know
  • [09:09:15] <tasslehoff> _koen_: http://pastebin.com/fKcNGeNi. (afk an hour or so).
  • [09:09:23] <koen> hitlin37: http://gitorious.org/angstrom/openembedded/blobs/org.openembedded.dev/recipes/libdlo/kernel-module-udlfb_git.bb
  • [09:11:03] <koen> tasslehoff: looks like your OE tree is old (r23.8.6 vs r23.2.6)
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  • [09:40:33] <koen> Crofton|work: http://gitorious.org/angstrom/angstrom-setup-scripts/commits/master
  • [09:40:39] <koen> Crofton|work: that's what you asked for, right?
  • [09:41:15] <koen> Crofton|work: you can thank ceyusa for that :)
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  • [09:48:57] <ceyusa> koen: huh? why did you push that?
  • [09:49:02] <ceyusa> :S
  • [09:49:12] <ceyusa> now I'm in shock
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  • [09:50:32] <azariah_> When connecting to a beagleboard via the serial port I get strange output: ??????????????? etc, any idea what can be wrong?
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  • [09:50:57] <azariah_> I connect using screen -L -fn /dev/ttyUSB0 115200
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  • [10:24:23] <tasslehoff> koen: hmm. I pulled from org.openembedded.dev yesterday.
  • [10:26:38] <tasslehoff> koen: what is that version number anyway?
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  • [10:45:51] <tasslehoff> koen: hmmm. so it's most likely compiling qt4-embedded instead of qt4-embedded-gles.
  • [10:47:36] <tasslehoff> koen: noticed a message early in my build that could explain it: ERROR: Multiple .bb files are due to be built which each provide qt4-embedded
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  • [11:29:32] <dongs> hai guise. so i dont suppose anyone here would know why cross-compiled modules onfor my i.mx233 board dont load? using exactly same .config as running kernel, etc.
  • [11:30:06] <dongs> errors out with like, "no symbol version for struct_module"
  • [11:30:17] <dongs> modinfo reports proper arch
  • [11:30:20] <dongs> file,too.
  • [11:30:23] <jacekowski> modprobe -f
  • [11:30:25] <dongs> did.
  • [11:30:26] <jacekowski> force it
  • [11:30:32] <dongs> it just fails same way.
  • [11:30:35] <jacekowski> just build whole kernel
  • [11:30:40] <dongs> cant
  • [11:30:43] <jacekowski> why?
  • [11:30:49] <dongs> technical reasons
  • [11:31:06] <jacekowski> same .config
  • [11:31:09] <jacekowski> same toolchain?
  • [11:31:11] <dongs> right..
  • [11:31:12] <dongs> exactly asme.
  • [11:31:18] <dongs> which is why its raging me out.
  • [11:31:21] <jacekowski> what have you changed
  • [11:31:31] <dongs> nothing. i patched in some custom modules for my hardware
  • [11:31:37] <dongs> and enabled them (as modules)
  • [11:31:42] <dongs> they dont depend on much
  • [11:31:43] <koen> is this #freescale?
  • [11:31:50] <jacekowski> same kernel version?
  • [11:31:53] <dongs> no, but #freescale is dead
  • [11:32:06] <dongs> yes same. same kernel version+subversion as running and config used was from /proc/config.gz
  • [11:32:13] <koen> dongs: it's offtopic here
  • [11:32:17] <dongs> so technically it should just wokr
  • [11:32:24] <dongs> koen: feel free to ban me thanks
  • [11:32:45] <koen> ah, a troll
  • [11:32:48] <koen> should have known
  • [11:32:51] <dongs> ??????????????/
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  • [11:33:11] <dongs> which part of my question is a troll?
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  • [11:33:56] <dongs> this is 1) channel with people who have embedded harwdare running lunix 2) i ahve a problem that i would normally be able to solve but cannot 3) im running out of options of where to ask about this shit, so im asking here.
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  • [11:34:20] <dongs> all common sense tells me if I did what i've described above it should just work.
  • [11:34:46] <jacekowski> dongs: have you tried google
  • [11:34:54] <dongs> yes only for the last 8 hours
  • [11:35:01] <jacekowski> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=972399
  • [11:35:04] <jacekowski> http://book.prgmr.com/mediawiki/index.php/No_version_for_%22struct_module%22_found:_kernel_tainted.
  • [11:35:28] <jacekowski> depmod
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  • [11:36:05] <dongs> depmod was done
  • [11:36:09] <dongs> KERN_DIR looks new
  • [11:36:16] <dongs> but it shouldnt matter
  • [11:36:32] <dongs> i will try with it in a sec
  • [11:37:15] <dongs> aborting that plan since KERN_DIR seems to be unrelated to kernel build
  • [11:37:23] <dongs> no mention of that define in source/makefiles
  • [11:39:36] <dongs> tainted shouldnt apply too, these are GPL stuffs.
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  • [11:40:08] <dongs> sigh.
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  • [11:59:53] <hitlin37> in build steps,step 4 ,how do i select packages i need
  • [12:00:25] <hitlin37> by default it make a 22mb rootfs
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  • [12:00:35] <hitlin37> for console
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  • [12:12:12] <jkridner|work> good morning all
  • [12:12:24] <_av500_> gm jkridner|work
  • [12:13:47] <Crofton|work> gm
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  • [12:33:50] <hitlin37> where do i need to put my recipe,so that my driver is included into new uImage
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  • [12:38:19] <djlewis> gm
  • [12:39:00] <_av500_> gm djlewis
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  • [12:41:12] <mihu> Hi. What is the easiest way to switch between multiple boot configurations? At the moment, I'm developing using NFS mounted root filesystem. I have booting from ext3 based SD card working as well. But switching between the two configurations sucks, so I guess I must be doing something wrong.
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  • [12:44:33] <_av500_> define sucks
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  • [12:46:08] <jkridner|work1> mihu: do you know about 'editbootscr'?
  • [12:46:11] <tasslehoff> I've added my own fstab to mount with data=ordered, but root still manages to use data=writeback. Anyone got an idea where that comes from?
  • [12:46:32] <jkridner|work1> or, simply 'cp /boot/my-new-boot.scr /media/mmcblk0p1/boot.scr'?
  • [12:46:33] <mihu> I mount /dev/mmcblk0p1 under Linux and replace/modify boot.scr, then reboot. One boot.scr is for loading uImage from mmc, then boots the kernel for NFS root filesystem. The other boot.scr is for loading the uImage from mmc, then sets root=/dev/mmcblk0p2.
  • [12:46:52] <jkridner|work1> mihu: that sounds pretty flexible to me...
  • [12:46:58] <jkridner|work1> then, you can add in user.scr...
  • [12:47:12] <jkridner|work1> and use the 'userbutton' u-boot command to select it.
  • [12:48:21] <mihu> jkridner|work1: So I can make use of the userbutton in the boot process. That would be sufficient for me. Let me google around user.scr and "userbutton" command...
  • [12:49:01] <tasslehoff> mihu: I have a similar setup, but I'm waiting for a patch to u-boot that lets you keep the its environment on mmc.
  • [12:49:09] <_av500_> mihu: you can also wire up another gio and check it from ubot
  • [12:49:17] <_av500_> so you can have a boot jumper
  • [12:49:45] <jkridner|work1> mihu: http://gitorious.org/beagleboard-validation/u-boot/commit/1b6181e5ebd94d27d5c9ee1d7032a69b5589d4f6
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  • [12:50:13] <mihu> _av500_: Good suggestion, but that's too much for a demo hack. Making use of the user button would be ok.
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  • [12:50:22] <jkridner|work1> mihu: I also find this helpful: http://gitorious.org/beagleboard-validation/u-boot/commit/dcbcbcded81e92a30081663371e2bd458ecccaba
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  • [12:50:59] <mihu> jkridner|work1: Just for clarification: support for user button is not yet in u-boot?
  • [12:51:00] <jkridner|work1> also necessary is http://gitorious.org/beagleboard-validation/u-boot/commit/ab91b55a38599a702e514ff38318bbb827c603c2
  • [12:51:09] <jkridner|work1> depends where you got u-boot....
  • [12:51:16] <jkridner|work1> it is in the u-boot that shipped with the board...
  • [12:51:27] <jkridner|work1> but, I haven't gotten it in the mainline u-boot yet. :(
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  • [12:51:38] <jkridner|work1> (bad jkridner!!!!)
  • [12:52:08] <mihu> I'm using U-Boot 2010.03 (Jul 22 2010 - 16:27:45). Since the check in is from August, I think I have to rebuild.
  • [12:52:15] <jkridner|work1> so, if you got an xM, it is there on the SD card. all of the patches on this branch are there: http://gitorious.org/beagleboard-validation/u-boot/commits/validation-20100818
  • [12:52:41] <jkridner|work1> Rev C4? ESC Chicago board?
  • [12:52:45] <mihu> jkridner|work1: No xM here, still the old C4.
  • [12:52:54] <tasslehoff> koen: don't you get the same error when bitbaking qt4-embedded-gles?
  • [12:52:57] <hitlin37> when do we can have patches for xm into added to omap kernel
  • [12:53:23] <jkridner|work1> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/ has pre-built images, as does http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/BeagleBoardDiagnosticsNext
  • [12:54:35] * jkridner|work1 isn't sure which are newer.
  • [12:55:23] <jkridner|work1> _koen_: any reason u-boot isn't dated August 20 or newer?
  • [12:55:40] <koen> jkridner|work1: no idea
  • [12:55:40] <djlewis> are opkg installs running slow from angstrom site or should I be looking to speed up elsewhere?
  • [12:56:07] <djlewis> as in it might be my wifi
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  • [12:56:58] * jkridner|work1 isn't finding new topics on http://beagleboard.org/linux_education. Did my e-mail go out? Is there interest?
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  • [12:57:59] * jkridner|work1 wonders if it is just too early for the West coast of the US.
  • [12:58:12] <djlewis> they were up late :)
  • [12:58:41] <djlewis> west coast gets to stay up later than me in central ;)
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  • [13:08:14] <mihu> jkridner|work1: I'm sorry to trouble you. The "user button" stuff is on a branch, right? I have check out git clone git://gitorious.org/beagleboard-validation/u-boot.git, but how do I switch to that branch you mentioned?
  • [13:09:38] <jkridner|work1> git checkout <repo name>/validation-20100818
  • [13:10:03] <daurnimator> woooo
  • [13:10:10] <daurnimator> demo image is showing on my lcd :D:D:D:D:D
  • [13:10:19] <daurnimator> doesn't explain why ubuntu didn't work though :(
  • [13:10:26] <jkridner|work1> mihu: http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/everyday.html
  • [13:10:43] <mihu> jkridner|work1: Thanks. I had missed the "-a" on "git branch", so it did not show the remote branches.
  • [13:10:47] <djlewis> daurnimator: still, thats progress
  • [13:10:56] <rcn-ee> daurnimator, xm A3?
  • [13:11:08] <daurnimator> xm, yes. a3; don't know??
  • [13:11:56] <rcn-ee> known issue, new images hopefully by the end of the week.. just for testing could you test: http://rcn-ee.net/bugs/dvi-xm-a3/2.6.35.6-l5.5.uImage to make sure the dvi actually comes up..
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  • [13:17:23] <rcn-ee> daurnimator, sorry there's a sticker next to the push buttons either says "A2" or "A3"....
  • [13:18:25] <daurnimator> ah right, a3 :
  • [13:21:06] <daurnimator> rcn-ee, so load up ubuntu as normal then use that uImage instead?
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  • [13:24:46] <mihu> jkridner|work1: Thanks for your help. This worked as a charm. I have now one boot.scr renamed to user.scr and have solved my problem. So I vote for getting this feature in to mainline u-boot. :-)
  • [13:25:01] <jkridner|work1> :)
  • [13:27:03] <djlewis> latest angstrom demo, opkg install task-sdk-native fails with update: http://pastebin.ca/1966907
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  • [13:46:43] <rcn-ee_> daurnimator, actually just use your current working image, back up the uImage and test that one.. if the dvi works, then we know..
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  • [13:47:47] <Tarki> Hello everyone
  • [13:48:02] <djlewis> anyone have any constructive info about task-sdk-native install failing?
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  • [13:48:48] <daurnimator> rcn-ee, seems to be working so far :)
  • [13:49:19] <Tarki> I cannot see anything in the screen when installing Ubuntu 10.10 on my Beagle xM, but I see messages when using Angstrom demo. Can anybody help me with that please? Thanks!
  • [13:51:09] <rcn-ee_> cool daurnimator was their any other error messages?
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  • [13:51:58] <rcn-ee_> Tarki, which image? canonical's or mine.. (downloaded from rcn-ee.net) if mine upgrade to this kernel: http://rcn-ee.net/bugs/dvi-xm-a3/2.6.35.6-l5.5.uImage
  • [13:54:00] <Tarki> Yours! ;) I installed 10.10. Login using serial is Ok, installing Xfce is ok, but nothing (nor even console) is shown in the monitor
  • [13:54:31] <rcn-ee_> Tarki, "A3" board?
  • [13:55:36] <Tarki> The loading messages say Rev A but the stick on the board says A3 . Thanks for the help!
  • [13:55:38] <daurnimator> nope. video out seems to be working well now :)
  • [13:56:06] <djlewis> force feeding libtool seems to have it moving again
  • [13:56:15] <daurnimator> on the other hand, my usb mouse doesn't seem to work in ubuntu, not sure if its a usb issue or a mouse issue
  • [13:56:24] <rcn-ee_> daurnimator, thanks so much for testing... Deb images are currently building, new images for both lucid and maverick should be uploaded by the end of the week.. (cross fingers)
  • [13:56:25] <djlewis> dnloaded and installed libtool from thumb drive
  • [13:57:07] <daurnimator> rcn-ee, what was the change?
  • [13:57:17] <djlewis> nope! more broken downloads during install
  • [13:58:23] <rcn-ee_> daurnimator, on the xM A3, there's a pin from the tps65950 that turns on the dvi port, this was not really connected on the A2.. doesn't seem to effect angstrom 2.6.32-psp kernel.. easy patch, just no hardware for me to personaly verify yet..
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  • [13:59:58] <Tarki_> Sorry, my connection went off...
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  • [14:00:26] <daurnimator> rcn-ee, well i get dvi output now. notes though: the display says 'Nonpreset mode'
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  • [14:00:34] <daurnimator> also usb isn't working AFAICT
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  • [14:00:58] <rcn-ee_> daurnimator, the musb or ehci port?
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  • [14:01:00] <dedalus> hello
  • [14:01:40] <daurnimator> rcn-ee, the 4 actual usb ports
  • [14:02:09] <rcn-ee_> weird, that was working fine on my xM A2 with that, but i'll retest this morning..
  • [14:02:25] <djlewis> did someone restart http://www.angstrom-distribution.org ? i lost it
  • [14:02:25] <daurnimator> they worked with the demo image...
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  • [14:03:30] <dedalus> I have an issue with /dev/ttyUSB0
  • [14:03:32] <djlewis> hmm, fudion forge
  • [14:03:37] <djlewis> fusion forge
  • [14:03:42] <dedalus> can't get it to work on the beagleboard
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  • [14:04:13] <dedalus> it's working on an ubuntu standard pc
  • [14:04:18] <rcn-ee_> daurnimator, it might even be the missing modules, i just uploaded the uimage and a lot of usb things in that image are external modules.. it was just a quick test for dvi..
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  • [14:04:49] <dedalus> would you have an idea on why it's not as standard ?
  • [14:04:50] <djlewis> ok, i'm confused now. how come I get Fusion Forge now instead of the Angstrom site?
  • [14:05:04] <djlewis> same url
  • [14:05:07] <Tarki_> rcn-ee_ your idea of using the new uImage version did the trick! Now I can see the console and the graphical interface. Nevertheless the USB is not working. Any idea why?
  • [14:05:27] <daurnimator> Tarki_, this is exactly where I'm at :)
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  • [14:06:36] <rcn-ee_> Tarki_, I'm pretty sure that's just the missing modules.. i'll upload them quick will take about 15mins on this connection..
  • [14:06:53] <Tarki_> Perfect! You are the best!
  • [14:07:02] * djlewis must have missed a memo :P
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  • [14:10:41] <djlewis> ok, and its not april fools time, hmm
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  • [14:12:39] <djlewis> ok, angstrom site seems to be waking up...
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  • [14:26:09] <Beagle> What should be performance gain for matrix mul. application when ran on ARM vs. DSP?
  • [14:27:02] <koen> depends on tons of factors
  • [14:27:22] <koen> there should be ti docs that show how many cycles things take when using the dsp libs
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  • [14:28:55] <Beagle> Thanks koen. but i think DSP must be much faster than ARM!?
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  • [14:29:15] <daurnimator> rcn-ee, got that code uploaded? cause I'm about to go to bed
  • [14:29:15] * jkridner|work1 gets ready to start http://beagleboard.org/linux_education call
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  • [14:31:01] <jkridner|work1> Meeting minutes for today are here: https://docs.google.com/document/edit?id=1gEOjZeQKTY7EoXxY1OoaU77xv2BEDHxLF6uRy67S0yU&hl=en
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  • [14:32:17] <rcn-ee_> daurnimator, Tarki_ http://rcn-ee.net/bugs/dvi-xm-a3/2.6.35.6-l5.5-modules.tar.gz just untar directly on the rootfs.. ;)
  • [14:32:18] * djlewis thanks whomever re lit the pilot light under angstrom feeds :)
  • [14:32:19] <_koen_> jkridner|work1: pssst
  • [14:32:46] <Tarki_> daurnimator thanks a lot! Good luck! ;) Thanks rcn-ee_.
  • [14:32:48] <_koen_> _koen_: compare my nick to what you typed into the doc ;)
  • [14:34:28] <_koen_> ehm, jkridner|work1
  • [14:34:35] <chase> who is Koon?
  • [14:34:44] <chase> a man of mystery?
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  • [14:35:44] <djlewis> ooh, a live typeover
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  • [14:39:06] <Crofton|work> rhymes with cancun
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  • [14:40:58] <jkridner|work> discussing project goals now.
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  • [14:45:05] <Tarki_> rcn-ee_ that worked like a charm! Thanks very much. Now I'm gonna play with the xM a bit.... trying to play video, music, etc.
  • [14:45:43] <rcn-ee_> cool, Tarki_ thanks so much for testing that uImage, i should have new demo images uploaded in a few days so the next users won't run into the issue..; )
  • [14:46:06] <daurnimator> rcn-ee / Tarki_ didn't work for me >.<
  • [14:46:18] <Tarki_> Thank you really!
  • [14:46:34] <rcn-ee_> did the untar have any errors?
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  • [14:46:40] <daurnimator> no
  • [14:47:00] <rcn-ee_> did it end up in /lib/modules/2.6.35.6-l5.4/ ?
  • [14:47:24] <Tarki_> daurnimator, I only did what you told me... and restarted the Beagle with the mouse and the keyboad connected...
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  • [14:48:02] <jkridner|work> currently asserting that a 32-bit machine with 2GB is the minimal for a build host.
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  • [14:48:29] <Tarki_> I'm doing all the process again from the scratch... just in case. I'll tell you some in 5 minutes...
  • [14:48:38] * djlewis has got to upgrade :(
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  • [14:50:05] <tasslehoff> How do I run an fsck on my angstrom? I tried "shutdown -r -F", but that did nothing.
  • [14:50:33] <buZz> fsck is a command
  • [14:50:40] <buZz> like shutdown is a command
  • [14:51:20] <daurnimator> Tarki_, / rcn-ee right, working now, I re untarred, and booted with it in instead of plugging in at later stage
  • [14:52:04] <rcn-ee_> yeah that 'pluggin' in a later stage needs a fix...
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  • [14:53:41] <ynezz> jkridner|work: I don't think, that a VM is a good idea, the I/O is extreme crap
  • [14:54:14] <Tarki_> daurnimator, I'm glad you did it...
  • [14:54:52] <jkridner|work> ynezz: logging that concern in the minutes
  • [14:55:01] * daurnimator complains that the only usb keyboard he has is plugged into his desktop
  • [14:55:45] <daurnimator> k, night all now.
  • [14:55:47] <daurnimator> thanks rcn-ee !
  • [14:55:49] <tasslehoff> buZz: yeah, but shutdown -F is supposed to make it run fsck on the next boot
  • [14:56:03] <daurnimator> look forward to seeing even more working :D
  • [14:56:41] <ynezz> jkridner|work: oposite :) Why a bootable USB vs. a virtual machine? - concern is RAM and really slow I/O
  • [14:57:12] <jkridner|work> ynezz: check again... still think it is opposite?
  • [14:57:47] <ynezz> yep, might be
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  • [14:59:46] <buZz> tasslehoff: well, you can just run fsck by typing fsck ;)
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  • [15:03:04] <_koen_> a usb disk doesn't have fast io either
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  • [15:30:32] <ninksink_xM> dedalus, I had issues with console serial (rs232-USB cable) too. It seems it can be a bit flaky, even between PCs. I have a Dell and when I used minicom or screen, nada, just a cursor floating around. Then I used a Lenovo. Minicom works sometimes, then screen works other times. With screen be careful of latent sessions. The command "pgrep screen | xargs kill" will kill the old ones, then a "screen /dev/ttyUSB0 115200" should work. Kinda flaky a
  • [15:30:33] <ninksink_xM> nd a nuisance. However, you can make sure sshd starts up, then all you need to do is ssh into her. If she is using dhcp and your network is small, you will find your xM with "nmap -sP NNN.NNN.NNN.*" where the Ns is your network and the * is for all the connections. Then you can "nmap NNN.NNN.NNN.nnn" and see the services provided. The xM (if not configured with other services) will be the one with just ssh (port 22) service active.
  • [15:30:41] <jkridner|work> wrapping up meeting now.
  • [15:32:44] <ninksink_xM> Question: Is there a lighter window manager than xfce that people have had success with beagle?
  • [15:33:21] <dm8tbr> twm works fine
  • [15:33:32] <rcn-ee_> lxde also seems to work..
  • [15:36:06] <_av500_> screen
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  • [15:44:04] <dabrutha> good morning
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  • [15:46:16] <mjhammel> jkridner|work: will the meeting notes be posted? I wasn't able to call in an listen.
  • [15:46:45] <jkridner|work> they are posted.
  • [15:46:56] <jkridner|work> they were posted live and now sent to the mailing list.
  • [15:47:02] <daurnimator> rcn-ee, just saw your wiki edit :)
  • [15:47:18] <daurnimator> happen to know where I can find the code/*.deb to offload stuff to the dsp?
  • [15:48:20] <rcn-ee_> daurnimator, that kernel has the dspbridge stuff enabled, beyond that only bits and piece.. But nothing as ready/works like angstrom's yet..
  • [15:49:01] <rcn-ee_> this script gets more of the dsp userspace bits built: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~beagleboard-kernel/%2Bjunk/2.6-stable/annotate/head:/create_dsp_package.sh
  • [15:49:36] <dabrutha> found some problems when compiling with arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc-4.5.2
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  • [15:50:05] <mru> 4.5.2?
  • [15:50:09] <mru> there is no such version
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  • [15:52:15] <mjhammel> Ok. Thanks.
  • [15:52:21] <daurnimator> rcn-ee_, alright, cheers.
  • [15:52:33] <daurnimator> rcn-ee_, hows the progress on this going? rapid?
  • [15:53:19] <rcn-ee_> daurnimator, just twiddling thumbs; http://rcn-ee.homeip.net:81/dl/farm/log/BUILDING-2.6.35.7-l6_1.0-lucid.txt (usually takes 5 hours)
  • [15:53:23] <dabrutha> it is a pre-release
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  • [15:54:14] <rsalveti> will create a valid uImage for the pre-released image, then you just need to replace it at the first sd partition
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  • [15:56:34] <daurnimator> rcn-ee, okay :)
  • [15:57:08] <rcn-ee_> daurnimator, i'm hoping to upload the lucid image tonight and then the maverick iamge tomorrow..
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  • [16:04:40] <jkridner|work> BeagleBoard-xM Rev A3 files are uploaded to http://beagleboard.org/hardware/design
  • [16:05:21] <Tarki_> Thanks rcn-ee_
  • [16:05:54] <gadiyar> jkridner|work: Is there a changelog somewhere for the board revisions?
  • [16:06:11] <jkridner> the system reference manual and the schematics include changelogs.
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  • [16:34:36] <jkridner|work> missed you this morning Jefro.
  • [16:34:45] <jkridner|work> guess it was just TOO early?
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  • [16:37:25] <Jefro> jkridner|work - omg it was waaaay too early. I was up until almost 2 working on something - sorry I missed it
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  • [16:37:59] <Jefro> are there minutes I could read?
  • [16:38:09] <Tarki_> Good by all!
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  • [16:39:20] <Jefro> ah, looks like robert couldn't make it either. how did it go?
  • [16:41:16] <Jefro> found minutes on mailing list
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  • [16:46:17] <Jefro> jkridner|work - is there going to be a separate mailing list, or just use the beagleboard list?
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  • [16:49:49] <jkridner> we'll fork if/when the activity gets high.
  • [16:50:11] <Jefro> ok, thx
  • [16:53:22] <rcn-ee_> education thing: we actually have a couple guys running fedora/ubuntu off usb harddrives no complaints yet from them..
  • [16:53:40] <jkridner> usb hdd, but what about usb flash?
  • [16:53:56] <jkridner> we want to ship it cheaply.
  • [16:54:10] <rcn-ee_> those would be pretty slow, there's some cheap $30ish 120G wd ones..
  • [16:55:16] <rcn-ee_> like: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136606&Tpk=120G%20usb%20harddrive
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  • [16:56:00] <jkridner> interesting.
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  • [16:57:14] <rcn-ee_> that would allow you to build angstrom on it too. ;)
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  • [16:58:45] <jkridner> well, that would be a requirement, so it seems necessary.
  • [16:58:59] <jkridner> $30 seems quite doable.
  • [16:59:27] <Jefro> rcn-ee - WOW
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  • [17:00:43] <Jefro> retail for an 8gb SD card is upward of $18 already. seems like a small leap to $30 to get 15x more room plus much faster transfer rates.
  • [17:00:59] <Jefro> and could be cheaper still in bulk
  • [17:01:41] <Beagle> how can we defragment the heap memory?
  • [17:01:58] <woglinde> ?
  • [17:02:22] <Jefro> rcn-ee jkridner - another idea - could offer both
  • [17:02:30] <rcn-ee_> i just don't know how long they'll last, the smallest portable on wdc.com is the 250Gb model, so once those goes....
  • [17:02:39] * russ wonders how we can sort the bits, smallest to largest
  • [17:02:49] <jkridner> for the linux education project, I think we'd still have the microSD for the BeagleBoard-xM.
  • [17:03:08] <jkridner> are these USB HDDs bootable?
  • [17:04:29] <russ> Beagle: can you be a bit more specific?
  • [17:05:00] <Beagle> russ: i m getting this error: DSP MMU Error Fault! MMU_IRQSTATUS = [0x1]. Virtual DSP addr reference that generated the interrupt = [0x40fffd60].
  • [17:05:13] <rcn-ee_> i've booted them on a couple different dell laptops, but for beagle bootable, i think we need some u-boot patches still.. ;)
  • [17:05:30] <russ> what does that have to do with defragmenting heap memory?
  • [17:05:46] <Beagle> russ: i am using Heap memory, so i thought it might be related to that
  • [17:05:57] <Beagle> russ: in my application
  • [17:06:14] <russ> why would defragmenting help?
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  • [17:06:46] <Beagle> russ: i dont know, but i am not able to figure out why i am getting this error!?
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  • [17:07:04] <Beagle> russ: i read the TI document related to that
  • [17:07:13] <russ> I'm not that familiar with the DSP, but it sounds lake the equivalent of a segfault
  • [17:07:49] <Beagle> russ: http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/DSP_MMU_Faults
  • [17:08:34] <Beagle> russ: it looks like "Unrecoverable TLB miss (hardware TWL disabled)". but dont know how to solve that!
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  • [17:09:24] <russ> beagle: it looks like the equivalent of a segfault
  • [17:09:52] <Beagle> Thanks russ
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  • [17:16:43] <Jefro> rcn-ee jkridner|work what about setting the beagle up to boot via tftp, rootfs via nfs, all preconfigured on the host OS? no card swapping...
  • [17:18:05] <jkridner> I'd want it to "just boot" by default, but I'd be happy with configuring it for either TFTP with a time-out or when the USER button is pressed.
  • [17:20:05] <Jefro> it would avoid a lot of the issues I see with card misconfiguration on the mailing list. we recommend people set up systems that way in commercial development environments.
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  • [17:22:14] <linux_manju> Hi All
  • [17:22:56] <jkridner> hello linux_manju
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  • [17:23:03] <linux_manju> today I got a brand new BeagleBoard XM.. I connected it to a LCD TV and powered it up.. Nothing comes on the screen and All I can see is a red LED on the beagle..
  • [17:23:35] <linux_manju> I dont have a serial cable ( Right now ).. Normally How many LEDs should glow if beagle is in the process of booting up
  • [17:23:39] <jkridner> Jefro: is there a way to add mDNS to TFTP so that the board's IP address can be autodiscovered?
  • [17:23:50] * jkridner worries about the complexity of the patches.
  • [17:24:10] <jkridner> if you see a RED LED, then the voltage input to the BeagleBoard-xM is wrong.
  • [17:24:32] <Jefro> jkridner - I normally just use dhcp and let the router assign it an IP
  • [17:24:51] <Jefro> linux_manju how are you powering the board?
  • [17:25:01] <linux_manju> jkridner: :( ... But the vendor gave me the Power Supply saying that its the correct one
  • [17:25:16] <jkridner> yeah, but you then have to look up the address somewhere and can't have the host software autodiscover it... more steps to go wrong in learning when you want students to feel success.
  • [17:25:33] <linux_manju> Jefro: With a power supply given by the vendor
  • [17:25:41] <jkridner> linux_manju: who was the vendor (we call out people here every now and again).
  • [17:26:25] <linux_manju> jkridner: IDA Systems http://idasystems.net/beagle_board
  • [17:27:22] <Jefro> jkridner I'll see if I can liberate the instructions we have for setting up systems. s/router/host - we set up a dhcp server on the host and the target gets its info from there.
  • [17:27:49] <linux_manju> jkridner: Sorry to repeat.. How can I make sure that its the power supply issue.. ( Before I raise all hell at the vendor )
  • [17:28:05] <jkridner> it should be 5V, first of all.
  • [17:28:09] <jkridner> power on the center.
  • [17:28:21] <Jefro> linux_manju if you have a meter, make sure the supply is ... what jkridner just said :) he types faster than I do
  • [17:29:27] <linux_manju> jkridner: Jefro : Sorry Guys.. Dont have a meter right now ( Its 11:30 PM ) in the night here.. and in a remote place.. How sure are you people that if its Only one RED LED that means its the power supply problem
  • [17:30:42] <jkridner> that is the purpose of the RED LED. it has no other purpose and it is the only RED LED.
  • [17:31:09] <linux_manju> jkridner: :) .. thanks alot.. And I feel sorry for the vendor :P
  • [17:31:39] <linux_manju> jkridner: Jefro Thanks alot again tou you both
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  • [17:33:32] <Jefro> linux_manju you could also try plugging in a USB mini-A plug. the xm probably won't fully boot that way, as there is not enough current available, but you should get green LEDs. if that works, the problem is the power supply. if not, perhaps there is a board issue.
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  • [17:36:42] <jkridner> Jefro: the current required depends on the kernel used... as does how far it boots. the shipped kernel with crash due to not having a gadget driver built in and having untied interrupt vectors for the USB.
  • [17:36:51] <jkridner> s/with/will/
  • [17:37:04] <linux_manju> Jefro: Trying it now
  • [17:37:43] <linux_manju> Jefro: Tried from USB.. Now I can see many green LEDs .. But nothing on the TV Display
  • [17:38:48] <Jefro> no, it probably won't boot that way - but now you know the PS is the problem
  • [17:39:18] <linux_manju> Jefro: Yes Sir.. Thanks alot :)
  • [17:40:07] <linux_manju> Jefro: So.. If It does not boot with that mini-A plug .. Why is it there .. just curious
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  • [17:41:48] <Jefro> jkridner I have a memory of not being able to get all the way to a u-boot prompt on an xm, but havent tried with a modern xm
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  • [17:42:28] <jkridner> hmmm.... maybe I should try. really need a worst-case USB host.
  • [17:43:07] <jkridner> linux_manju: it *can*, with the right software if you don't power on all of the subsystems, namely DVI and USB.
  • [17:43:24] <jkridner> linux_manju: also, it is there to act as a 'gadget'.
  • [17:44:04] <linux_manju> jkridner: Ok.. Got it.. So.. The only option for me is to wait till tomorrow morning and fight with the vendor for the proper power supply
  • [17:44:52] * linux_manju waited 2 months for the board .. Again have to wait for 1 week for the PS :( .. Life sucks
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  • [17:45:29] <Jefro> linux_manju if you have any other 5v power supply, you could use it with the tip from the bad one. just make sure it is center-positive.
  • [17:45:52] <linux_manju> Jefro: Try that .. thanks alot :)
  • [17:46:04] <linux_manju> Try that == Will try that
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  • [17:50:27] <kblin> linux_manju: a well-sorted electronics store is bound to have 5 V power supplies with an interchangeable set of plugs
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  • [17:52:39] <linux_manju> kblin: yup. will buy one.. thanks
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  • [17:56:02] <kblin> that's how I got the power supplies for all my beagles, and a replacement for my sheevaplug power supply :)
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  • [18:00:42] <Jefro> kblin - what is your impression of the sheevaplug as compared to the beagleboard? (I have a guru but it gets way too hot)
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  • [18:02:29] <kblin> Jefro: I use both my beagles and my sheevaplug as file servers, and both aren't the ideal platform
  • [18:02:49] <kblin> the sheevaplug is pretty good, just the power supply sucks alot
  • [18:03:21] <kblin> I'm now running on power supply three, and I've had my sheeva for about a year
  • [18:03:43] <kblin> I've now switched to an external power supply, which also reduces system heat
  • [18:04:21] <kblin> all in all, I prefer the dockstar, which is pretty similar hardware but seems to have been engineered better
  • [18:05:11] <kblin> the beagles have no issues in that respect, but it took quite a while until I got a kernel that'd do stable usb ethernet networking
  • [18:05:26] <kblin> especially if under load and with other USB traffic
  • [18:05:55] <kblin> my C3 board also got better after adding an extra 22 uF cap
  • [18:06:05] <Jefro> I tried setting it up as a server, but it heated up so much that my office smelled like VOCs
  • [18:06:24] <Jefro> interesting - I am not familiar with the dockstar
  • [18:06:34] <kblin> but not having ethernet built-in is kind of sucky for a file server
  • [18:07:09] <kblin> the dockstar basically seems to be a sheevaplug board, with better heat dissipation, an external power supply and more USB ports
  • [18:07:19] <kblin> also, it's slightly faster as a file server
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  • [18:07:48] * jkridner|work is just now starting to have BeagleBoards scattered throughout the house on and remotely logging into them.
  • [18:08:01] <linux_manju> Looks like .. there is a problem with the board itself.. Here is my findings sofar
  • [18:08:02] <kblin> it's got less ram, though, 128 megs vs. 512 megs
  • [18:08:23] <kblin> jkridner|work: using wireless?
  • [18:08:24] <linux_manju> The PS reads 5 V ( Polarity not mentioned )..
  • [18:08:42] <kblin> linux_manju: if you didn't measure, I wouldn't believe it
  • [18:08:47] <linux_manju> So I cut the wire in the middle and swaped the Red and White cable
  • [18:08:55] <jkridner|work> wired right now... looking for a wireless adapter I'm comfortable buying 3-4 of.
  • [18:09:01] <kblin> linux_manju: also, center positive is important
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  • [18:09:17] <kblin> jkridner|work: ah, and here I was hoping you had solved that issue ;)
  • [18:09:21] <jkridner|work> I can't find my wireless adapter right now. :(
  • [18:09:26] <linux_manju> kblin: If the center is not positive.. The swapping should have taken care of it right ?
  • [18:09:49] <jkridner|work> I had one that worked. Just misplaced it.
  • [18:09:50] <linux_manju> I cut the PS wire in the middle and swapped with Red --> White and White --> Red
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  • [18:10:12] <kblin> I would always measure that.. I think the protection the XM has is just against overvoltage, not against inversed polarity
  • [18:10:22] <kblin> also, the meter fuse is cheaper than a new XM
  • [18:10:30] <linux_manju> kblin: :)
  • [18:11:10] <M_Ridolfino> Having some issues getting Lucid running on my Beagle, following the instructions on the eLinux wiki, everything goes fine, and then it says mkimage not found.
  • [18:11:12] <linux_manju> kblin: It looks like some cheap PS what the vendor has shipped.. as big as a Brick
  • [18:11:24] <mru> kblin: but a negative voltage is just the same as a very large positive voltage, no?
  • [18:11:27] <linux_manju> M_Ridolfino: Install uboot_mkimage
  • [18:11:51] <kblin> mru: hm, I wouldn't bet my XM on that
  • [18:11:59] <kblin> not that I have one right now
  • [18:12:36] <kblin> the one I had had a dead serial, or a broken sd card, depending if I trust what I measured or specialcomp ;)
  • [18:12:41] <linux_manju> M_Ridolfino: apt-get install uboot-mkimage ( If you are running any debian/ubuntu )
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  • [18:13:39] <M_Ridolfino> Running Knoppix to avoid having to reformat a drive, that command doesn't seem to work for me.
  • [18:14:04] <M_Ridolfino> I get "Couldn't find package uboot-mkimage"
  • [18:14:15] <linux_manju> M_Ridolfino: apt-cache search mkimage
  • [18:15:49] <M_Ridolfino> No response from that command
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  • [18:18:51] <M_Ridolfino> Any particular spot I should have these files on the hard disk?
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  • [18:23:44] <Jefro> M_Ridolfino try uboot_mkimage rather than uboot-mkimage (underscore vs dash)
  • [18:24:12] <M_Ridolfino> Still can't find the package it says
  • [18:24:53] <M_Ridolfino> it is something i need to download?
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  • [18:30:41] <M_Ridolfino> Could the lack of mkimage be due to running a live version of linux rather than an installed copy?
  • [18:31:15] <Jefro> M_Ridolfino what development environment does this live version have preinstalled?
  • [18:31:26] <Jefro> possibly none
  • [18:31:45] <M_Ridolfino> looks like its got eclipse
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  • [18:35:03] <Jefro> M_Ridolfino you'll need to install the u-boot tools. here is a link that may help: http://www.stlinux.com/u-boot/mkimage
  • [18:35:49] <M_Ridolfino> ok, will try that now
  • [18:37:15] <Beagle> i am getting [48862.615020] DSP MMU Error Fault! MMU_IRQSTATUS = [0x1]. Virtual DSP addr reference that generated the interrupt = [0x40fffd60].
  • [18:37:35] <Beagle> i read this but did not helped: http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/DSP_MMU_Faults
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  • [18:47:40] <M_Ridolfino> so how would i got about installing that package after i download it>
  • [18:48:03] <woglinde> M_Ridolfino which distribution?
  • [18:48:14] <M_Ridolfino> knoppix, linux live
  • [18:48:33] <woglinde> aeh?
  • [18:48:38] <woglinde> on the beagle?
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  • [18:48:55] <M_Ridolfino> trying to get ubuntu running on my beagle, get the mkimage not found
  • [18:49:17] <M_Ridolfino> dont want to have to dedicate a drive to running a linux distro, so i'm running knoppix off a dvd
  • [18:49:27] <woglinde> so you hit the install this koppix live cd to mmc?
  • [18:49:31] <woglinde> button
  • [18:50:14] <M_Ridolfino> no, following the instructions on http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu#Lucid_10.04.1
  • [18:50:42] <M_Ridolfino> everything seems to work find, but then it can't find the mkimage package
  • [18:50:45] <woglinde> and where comes knoppix into play?
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  • [18:51:00] <woglinde> so if its a .deb
  • [18:51:08] <woglinde> try dpkg -i name.deb
  • [18:51:35] <M_Ridolfino> i'm running knoppix because the only instructions i can find for installing ubuntu on the beagle require using the linux console
  • [18:51:50] <woglinde> sure
  • [18:52:01] <woglinde> why do need to fiddle with graphical installer
  • [18:52:11] <buZz> the linux console is the better part of linux usage :)
  • [18:52:16] <buZz> total power over everything
  • [18:52:24] <woglinde> buzz hm
  • [18:52:26] * |nfecteD curses at angstrom
  • [18:52:48] <buZz> no intelligence insulting by graphically designed interfaces so simple a monkey could use it
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  • [18:54:47] <M_Ridolfino> at this point i'm just lost
  • [18:55:02] <M_Ridolfino> is it possible to install the files to get my beagle running ubuntu via windows?
  • [18:56:58] <rcn-ee_> M_Ridolfino, 'whereis mkimage' should print out as it's installed by default on that demo image...
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  • [18:57:29] <buZz> igep offers a ubuntu image for virtualbox :D
  • [18:57:35] <M_Ridolfino> i get "mkimage: "
  • [18:57:44] <buZz> so you can just run that image on your windows box to get a proper base
  • [18:58:29] <rcn-ee_> M_Ridolfino, what does "uname -a" print out, maybe your image is older then one i have posted on elinux..
  • [18:59:15] <buZz> rcn-ee_: he is missing mkimage in the knoppix liveimage he's on, on his pc
  • [18:59:44] <rcn-ee_> oh, i see, sorry way off.. just use the debian version for squeeze it's defintelly old enough..
  • [19:00:10] <M_Ridolfino> i did download the newest ubuntu image from your site
  • [19:00:18] <M_Ridolfino> but yea, mkimage appears to be missing
  • [19:00:43] <woglinde> shouldnt be the windows dd enough?
  • [19:01:27] <rcn-ee_> sorry, it's really tailored to ubuntu installs... i'd just copy the mkimage for your arch from here: http://packages.debian.org/lenny/uboot-mkimage libc is the only real depencdicy so it should work knoppix...
  • [19:02:04] <rcn-ee_> the ubuntu guys have a dd install for windows... i didn't implement that with my demo images...
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  • [19:02:35] <M_Ridolfino> copy that to the sd card?
  • [19:03:35] <rcn-ee_> last i check knoppix is debian based, so you can install that deb to your knoppix machine to get the 'mkimage' package for the script..
  • [19:03:48] <M_Ridolfino> ok
  • [19:03:51] <M_Ridolfino> i'll give that a shot
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  • [19:05:03] <M_Ridolfino> i do appreciate the help, i've got no clue when it comes to linux
  • [19:05:25] <woglinde> M_Ridolfino the learning curve is steer
  • [19:06:32] <buZz> steep*
  • [19:07:22] <woglinde> thanks
  • [19:07:23] <woglinde> sorry
  • [19:07:44] <buZz> np :)
  • [19:08:32] <M_Ridolfino> rcn-ee should i get the arm or armel package?
  • [19:10:17] <rcn-ee_> M_Ridolfino, i'm guessing this is a knoppix machine running on your pc/laptop used to run the setup_sdcard.sh script? i would guess it would be x86?
  • [19:10:24] <M_Ridolfino> yes
  • [19:10:59] <rcn-ee_> i'd use the i386 package then.. test it with 'mkimage' to make sure it runs...
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  • [19:12:19] <M_Ridolfino> ok, so what command do i use to install that .deb file>
  • [19:12:38] <rcn-ee_> sudo dpkg -i mkimage*.deb
  • [19:13:03] <rcn-ee_> it might error, with some warning...
  • [19:13:46] <M_Ridolfino> replace mkimage* with the filename?
  • [19:13:55] <rcn-ee_> yeah..
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  • [19:14:25] <M_Ridolfino> ok
  • [19:14:29] <M_Ridolfino> thanks
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  • [19:33:20] <M_Ridolfino> ok got past the mkimage portion this time, but got a new error
  • [19:33:48] <M_Ridolfino> "./setup_sdcard.sh: Line 567: pv: command not found"
  • [19:34:03] <M_Ridolfino> "tar: This does not look like a tar archive"
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  • [19:40:15] <M_Ridolfino> any ideas?
  • [19:41:03] <woglinde> hm you need the pv command
  • [19:41:49] <M_Ridolfino> if it comes down to it i'll try using ubuntu via virtual box i guess
  • [19:42:30] <M_Ridolfino> should i be running the install file from the sd card?
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  • [19:53:54] <ksinkar> i dont have a beagle board
  • [19:54:06] <ksinkar> but i have an issue with the hawkboard
  • [19:54:13] <ksinkar> can i discuss it here
  • [19:54:18] <ksinkar> the hawkboard forum is dead
  • [19:55:10] <mru> the hawkboard doesn't have much in common with beagle
  • [19:55:29] <mru> it's a davinci-class chip
  • [19:55:34] <mru> despite being called omap
  • [19:55:48] <mru> just like the DM37xx is an omap despite being called davinci
  • [19:56:50] <koen> you'll love the new integra series
  • [19:56:59] <mru> heard about it
  • [19:57:06] <koen> am389x, c6a716x dm816x
  • [19:57:21] <koen> arm, arm + dsp, arm + dsp + ivahd
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  • [19:58:36] <mru> hmm, now omap-l1x is listed under the integra heading
  • [19:58:48] <tasslehoff> koen: I'll keep bugging you about the powervr-plugin :). Have you set a PREFERRED_PROVIDER or something to make OE compile the gles-variant?
  • [19:59:00] <koen> tasslehoff: no, I use bitbake -b
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  • [19:59:09] <koen> tasslehoff: btw, _roger_ found the 4.7.0 build bug
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  • [20:00:10] <tasslehoff> koen: I didn't know there was one :)
  • [20:00:46] <ksinkar> mru: the problem is about uart booting
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  • [20:01:02] <ksinkar> maybe we can solve that by the experience u have in other embedded applications
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  • [20:02:05] <ksinkar> it is a hardware problem apparently
  • [20:02:21] <ksinkar> i am trying to u-boot from uart first
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  • [20:02:50] <ksinkar> as provided by AISgen and uart boot TI tools
  • [20:03:36] <ksinkar> there seems to be a bootloader hardcoded into the OMAP L138 chip which communicates on the serial line with BOOT ME message when the chip is reset
  • [20:04:17] <ksinkar> I am able to load the uboot for uart image on the flash successfully
  • [20:04:57] <tasslehoff> koen: ah, bitbake -b could do way with my problem I guess.
  • [20:05:01] <ksinkar> but after that I am supposed to press enter and get the hawkboard prompt on a generic PC uart terminal
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  • [20:06:00] <ksinkar> has anybody faced a similar problem ever in their embedded career
  • [20:06:10] <ksinkar> if yes please enlighten me too
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  • [20:24:52] <jkridner|work> know anyone interested in going to the Linux Plumber's Conference but blocked by not having a ticket?
  • [20:25:29] <_av500_> where when?
  • [20:26:00] <woglinde> av500 US
  • [20:26:33] <_av500_> dk just sent me a shipped notice
  • [20:26:45] <jkridner|work> http://www.linuxplumbersconf.org/2010/
  • [20:26:53] <sakoman_> jkridner|work: are you including an airline ticket too? ;-)
  • [20:26:59] <jkridner|work> no :(
  • [20:27:19] <sakoman_> too bad it is on the wrong side of the country!
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  • [20:27:33] <sakoman_> I liked it better in Portland :-)
  • [20:27:34] <ksinkar> http://pastebin.com/hMpqXTTn
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  • [20:29:42] * jkridner would be more interested in Portland as wel.
  • [20:29:46] <jkridner> s/wel/well/
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  • [20:39:49] <ninksink_xM> Question: xM boot sequence (system V) from init and inittab. However /etc/inittab does not exist. I notice runlevel is 2. What I am after is having networking and X start automatically. Any clues, in particular links, are greatly appreciated.
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  • [20:41:08] <woglinde> ninksink google for busybox
  • [20:41:19] <woglinde> or do you have ubuntu
  • [20:41:23] <woglinde> google for upstart
  • [20:41:51] <torusle> hi
  • [20:41:52] <ninksink_xM> Ooops, forgot to mention, running ubuntu lucid on the beagle, omap 2.6.36.6-15
  • [20:42:18] <ninksink_xM> so I assume it is upstart for lucid then.
  • [20:42:51] <hypercube31> ninksink_xM, i know its simplistic, but hacking it to do it manually on the .login? or something similar?
  • [20:43:01] <ds2> jkrinder|work: where is plumbers this year?
  • [20:43:05] <hypercube31> ninksink_xM, i think you can do gdm as well?
  • [20:43:07] <_av500_> cambridge ma
  • [20:43:12] <_av500_> hi torusle
  • [20:43:27] <ds2> when is it?
  • [20:43:31] <hypercube31> ninksink_xM, or whatever xdm or something to that effect (i know its not gnome you are using)
  • [20:44:08] <torusle> hi av500.
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  • [20:45:17] <jayabharath> ds2: Nov 3-5
  • [20:46:06] <ds2> DOH
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  • [20:47:57] <emeb> _av500_: pre-ordered an a43 from amazon last night
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  • [20:51:49] <dm8tbr> emeb: the 101 looks nice http://www.flickr.com/photos/av500/5097025488/
  • [20:52:12] <emeb> dm8tbr: oooh - purty!
  • [20:52:38] <emeb> nothing quite like seeing console txt in a window with a touch kbd.
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  • [20:57:44] <ynezz> av500: http://www.flickr.com/photos/av500/5008940349/ nice one :)
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  • [21:01:39] <_av500_> ynezz: thx
  • [21:02:42] <ynezz> what do you use it for?
  • [21:02:48] <_av500_> moon shots
  • [21:02:50] <ynezz> nature photo?
  • [21:02:53] <ynezz> ah
  • [21:02:58] <_av500_> nothing special
  • [21:03:07] <_av500_> its just because i could :)
  • [21:03:10] <ds2> is that really F2.8 glass or that 2.8 refers to something else?
  • [21:03:18] <_av500_> ds2: ocourse it is
  • [21:03:36] <ds2> WOW... that's expensive glass at 300mm
  • [21:03:58] <ynezz> yes, quite pricey, but worth the money :)
  • [21:04:00] <_av500_> ds2: well, since its canon manual, its not so expensive any more
  • [21:04:12] <_av500_> its a 1980s lens after all
  • [21:04:17] <ds2> what's not so expensive?
  • [21:04:24] <ynezz> I have 400/2.8, older MK1
  • [21:04:26] <_av500_> it does not make a 2010 digital camera happy
  • [21:04:31] <_av500_> ynezz: nice!!!
  • [21:04:49] <_av500_> ds2: buying it 2nd hand a few ys ago
  • [21:04:56] <ynezz> yes, it's a must for the sport photo
  • [21:05:10] <ds2> how many sterlings, euros, or dollars?
  • [21:05:18] <DJWillis> _av500_: someone else who straps old manual lens onto digital backs to get nice frankenlens. :)
  • [21:05:31] <_av500_> i paid 900 au$ in 2002
  • [21:05:42] * ds2 converts
  • [21:05:52] <_av500_> dunno what au$ are these days
  • [21:06:20] <sklnd> close to parity with USD
  • [21:06:35] <_av500_> that trip was my honeymoon and i brought back 4 used lenses from NZ and AU, go figure :)
  • [21:06:39] <ds2> that is cheap
  • [21:07:15] <_av500_> ds2: yes
  • [21:07:33] <torusle> hi ynezz btw.
  • [21:07:54] <ds2> now if only an 800mm/2.8 lense can be found at that price ;)
  • [21:08:00] <ynezz> torusle: hi :)
  • [21:08:29] <ynezz> does such lens even exist?
  • [21:08:45] <ds2> I know 800mm lenses exists
  • [21:08:55] <ynezz> but f2.8
  • [21:09:16] <_av500_> not 2.8
  • [21:09:23] <ynezz> above 400 it's usually f4 or so
  • [21:09:28] <ds2> not even in the multimegabux range?
  • [21:10:00] <_av500_> 5.6
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  • [21:10:12] <_av500_> ds2: you can zeiss to make you one
  • [21:10:52] <mru> 1200mm f/5.6 ftw
  • [21:11:11] <ds2> is that like how I can ask a volcano to not errupt? :D
  • [21:12:00] <ds2> MMMmm 1200mm
  • [21:12:41] <ds2> wonder if the diameter of a 1200mm lense is a significant factor in usability (diffraction, etc)
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  • [21:12:55] <dm8tbr> reminds me of that leaflet I saw once for this ginormous lens
  • [21:13:28] <dm8tbr> it was fixed on some sort of platform
  • [21:14:59] <_av500_> yes, the zeiss for the sheik
  • [21:15:12] <ds2> I wonder if 1200mm is sufficient to see nose hairs on the players while sitting in the nose bleed sections
  • [21:15:36] <_av500_> the 1200 was mostly for sport photogs doing surfing
  • [21:15:59] <_av500_> i doubt it is very sharp
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  • [21:16:08] <ynezz> even 400 is sometimes a lot for a football
  • [21:16:35] <ynezz> 200 and 400, the best combo
  • [21:16:49] <ds2> depends on if you want to see how scratched up the pig skin is
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  • [21:17:08] <_av500_> ynezz: on a revolving mount :)
  • [21:17:09] <ds2> or prehaps see the ball as it enters the goal posts while sitting on the opposite endzone
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  • [21:18:36] <ynezz> you can zoom it in photoshop :p
  • [21:21:09] <mru> some samples of the 1200mm: http://www.the-digital-picture.com/reviews/Sample-Pictures.aspx?Equipment=337
  • [21:22:00] <mru> dang, no full size
  • [21:22:35] <ynezz> I wonder what the customs at the airport in Moscow would think about it :p
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  • [21:22:45] <ynezz> I had serious problems with 400
  • [21:23:18] <ynezz> but well, maybe they wanted just some extra cash
  • [21:23:31] <emeb> always liked lenses that had handles built-in
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  • [21:24:46] <ynezz> well, you have two handles on this lens
  • [21:25:08] <emeb> double-fisted battle... lens...
  • [21:25:30] <ynezz> just the ammo is missing
  • [21:25:33] <ds2> that thing looks like what the cops would use to break down a door
  • [21:25:50] <emeb> owche
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  • [21:31:56] <ynezz> just found something online - "old" Canon 10D, 70-200mm/f2.8 http://ynezz.true.cz/moje/foto/foto-spolecne1.jpg
  • [21:32:16] <ynezz> well, size does matter in some cases, but not always :)
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