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[01:15:00] <djlewis> i'm back :)
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[05:12:17] <hitlin37> i have through dss documentation,i have one doubt,it says display0,display1,display2 for lcd,dvi-d ,t v but on my system there are only two dispalys display0 and display1(board is currently connected to dvi-d only).what is display 0 and display 1 by default
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[05:16:22] <tomba> hitlin37: it depends on your board. the displays appear in the order they were introduced in the kernel board file.
[05:17:53] <hitlin37> is there any way i can check display 0 and display 1 refers to what
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[05:19:37] <tomba> I think there's "name" entry under the sysfs for the displays.
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[05:29:24] <hitlin37> a littile precise.?...in sys/fs there's ext4 directory,nothing else
[05:29:38] <ds2> Hmmm
[05:29:55] <_av500_> gm tomba, did you get the question about pal-m the other day?
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[05:53:50] <hitlin37> thanks i got d name entry
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[06:02:38] <tomba> _av500_: hmm no
[06:03:19] <tomba> _av500_: but I don't know much about the tv-standards. if the pal and ntsc option that are currently in dss2 are not good for you, you need to study the TRM and implement them yourself =)
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[06:11:45] <_av500_> ok :)
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[06:26:21] <ds2> tomba: heheh
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[06:36:48] <_av500_> tomba: not me, but the boys from brazil
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[07:28:39] <ds2> hmm I wonder if anyone is using rowboat on the beagle
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[07:57:19] <av500> ds2: goin' android?
[08:00:59] <ds2> av500: no, just wondering
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[09:57:44] <tasslehoff> Should I use the CodeSourcery toolchain to compile x-loader?
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[09:59:23] <av500> tasslehoff: if you want it to be "magic" yes
[09:59:36] <av500> otherwise use the toolchain you use for the rest
[10:02:26] <tasslehoff> av500: I need to change the DDR-config since we have hooked it up in a different way than the Beagle. We have 256MB "on CS0" (unsure about the terminology). Perhaps I can reconfigure DDR in u-boot instead to avoid compiling x-loader at all.
[10:03:05] <av500> why not compile xloader?
[10:03:23] <av500> since it sets up the sdram
[10:03:27] <av500> change it there
[10:04:20] <tasslehoff> av500: only reason would be convenience, sinec I already use OE and build u-boot with its toolchain.
[10:04:24] <tasslehoff> but I hear you :)
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[10:08:28] <av500> tasslehoff: so build xloader with oe toolchain as well
[10:08:35] <koen> I don't think there's a valid usecase that requires using CSL
[10:08:47] <av500> koen: unless you paid for CSL :)
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[10:10:43] <tasslehoff> :)
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[10:40:59] <tasslehoff> Any up-to-date howto on adding the sgx drivers to Angstrom, and making qt-embedded use them?
[10:53:30] <koen> go to angstrom website, read build instructions, build
[10:53:40] <koen> they are already integrated :)
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[11:11:35] <tasslehoff> koen: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom? if so, I'm where I should be. I added libgles-omap3 and devmem2 to my image and it compiled. It just felt ... too easy :)
[11:16:35] <tasslehoff> git://gitorious.org/x-load-omap3/mainline.git is the place to go for x-loader, right? my board was less than impressed with the result of my compilation. <garbage>40W<garbage> wasn't really what I was aiming for :)
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[11:40:00] <tasslehoff> is the MLO in my boot partition just a renamed x-load.bin created with "make distclean && make omap3530beagle_config && make"
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[11:41:35] <mru> good boy
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[11:43:34] * tasslehoff takes it, feeling slightly ashamed at his question-trigger-happiness
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[12:03:18] <luke-pi> hi
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[12:24:41] <ant_work> koen: have you done any work wrt linux logo? I have to repair linux-kexecboot but I see we only handle the 'vga' and 'qvga' cases atm. The temptation was to weakly set a $LOGO_SIZE var in linux.inc.
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[13:19:01] <phanik> hello everyone can anyone let me know how to order BB online??
[13:19:25] <av500> click the "Buy" link
[13:19:43] <adj> and few other buttons after that
[13:20:06] <av500> adj: unless you have "one-click-for-everything" setup :)
[13:20:18] <mru> give me your credit card number and address, and I'll order one for you :-)
[13:20:31] <mru> and some things for myself
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[13:21:14] <av500> and a steak sandwich for me
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[13:21:32] * mru didn't know digikey stocked those
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[13:21:35] <adj> 492019... hey! Now I know why credit company canceled my visa credit/debit card last week
[13:22:02] <azurus> let me knw ur id and pass so that i can confirm wid them
[13:22:18] * mru once got a letter from the CC company "director of fraud"
[13:22:39] <azurus> hehehe
[13:23:18] <mru> that's what happens when you try to buy a laptop with a card you normally use mostly for pub meals
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[13:24:42] <JDuke127> when i try to configure clutter it works fine as url shown : http://pastebin.com/X5m40G2d , but when i try to make it i got error : http://pastebin.com/PrEXZZ8M , someone know how to fix ? or whats wrong ?
[13:24:43] * av500 hatches evil plan involving 1 million pub meals paid by cc
[13:24:45] <azurus> can anyone provide me their beagleboard
[13:24:48] <JDuke127> i suspect on "/usr/include" is used on make , CROSS COMPILE Badness: /usr/include in INCLUDEPATH: /usr/include/cairo , how to fix that problem ?
[13:24:55] <azurus> for free
[13:24:56] <JDuke127> someone have idea ?
[13:24:59] <av500> azurus: lol
[13:25:15] <azurus> ROFL
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[14:07:10] <jedix> Anyone have a working kernel config for a C4 with the xenarc display?
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[14:08:08] <av500> jedix: you never sent me the xenarc, so I could not work on it :)
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[14:10:05] <jedix> av500: hehe, it's the recomended display, so I figured it was working.
[14:10:57] <av500> "THE" recomended display?
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[14:15:53] <jedix> yea
[14:16:02] <jedix> it was on the website somewhere
[14:16:05] <jedix> I can't find it now though
[14:16:23] <buZz> THE website
[14:16:46] <mru> the recommended website?
[14:16:57] <jedix> crap, it might not have been.
[14:17:05] <buZz> ^_^
[14:17:28] <buZz> is the xenarc display a usb device?
[14:18:57] <av500> no
[14:18:58] <av500> dvi
[14:19:01] <jedix> it's dvi for video, and a usb tocuh screen
[14:19:13] <buZz> then what part of the kernel config do you need help with?
[14:19:22] <jedix> it also has sound out
[14:20:22] <jedix> the screen blinks when certain things are set for video out, we tried changing it and now I only get a yellow screen
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[14:20:56] <jedix> I'm trying to figure out if it's due to using a 2.6.34 kernel or if it's a config issue
[14:21:16] <koen> that's a wierd version to use
[14:21:25] <koen> it's not the TI supported .32 nor is it the latest
[14:21:28] <buZz> its not the recommended one :P
[14:21:35] <mru> .54
[14:21:37] <jedix> blast
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[14:21:59] <jedix> so we should be using .32 or the latest?
[14:22:08] <buZz> i would go for the recommended kernel :P
[14:22:20] <av500> THE recommended kernel!
[14:22:28] <jedix> .32?
[14:22:29] <buZz> hihi
[14:22:31] <woglinde> its friday?
[14:22:38] <av500> woglinde: friday was a bit slow
[14:22:50] * mru would recommend a kernel that goes
[14:22:54] <koen> I wish it was friday already
[14:22:57] <mru> av500: can you make it go?
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[14:24:00] <jedix> So was there something put in between .32 and .34 that could cuase this?
[14:24:19] <av500> jedix: .32 and .34 is meaningless
[14:24:36] <av500> most ppl here use the BB .32 which is the psp .32 with a ton of patches
[14:24:40] <av500> what is your .34?
[14:24:52] <jedix> kernel.org's .34
[14:25:06] <mru> kernel.org has ~100 trees
[14:25:26] <jedix> it's the stable released .34
[14:26:03] <mru> what? plain vanilla torvalds .34?
[14:26:07] <mru> not going to work
[14:26:12] <buZz> not easily ;)
[14:26:19] <buZz> well, no never
[14:26:29] <av500> jedix: the question is the same as last time, why dont you just use THE recommended kernel?
[14:26:39] <av500> what do you need .34 for?
[14:26:51] <av500> support for 128cores?
[14:27:10] <buZz> yeah, straight kernel.org kernels sorta work on stock omap3530 devices, but the external kernels work way better
[14:27:25] <buZz> eventually they will meet up, but this isnt today, nor tomorrow, but soon i guess
[14:27:34] <av500> friday?
[14:27:40] <buZz> some friday :)
[14:27:45] <jedix> for some patches that were added to .34 for in house debugging
[14:27:53] <av500> so add them to .32
[14:28:10] <jedix> the other issue is we're trying to get meego on it
[14:28:14] <jedix> so they don't use .32
[14:28:40] <ynezz> they use ubuntu's kernel 2.6.35 something
[14:28:44] <av500> lets meet in the middle: .33 :)
[14:28:46] <buZz> what dependancies does meego havo on the kernel version?
[14:29:02] <buZz> have*
[14:29:02] <woglinde> no dsp
[14:29:10] <ynezz> no display
[14:29:14] <ynezz> and no keyboard
[14:29:24] <buZz> i thought jedix was asking stuff :D
[14:29:24] <woglinde> ynezz hm sgx is working
[14:29:28] <jannau> jedix: you could try the meego kernel for the n900 then which is afaik 2.6.35 based
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[14:29:44] <buZz> wow a lot of ppl are active with meego i guess :P
[14:29:48] <av500> one can try many things
[14:29:53] <ynezz> meep meep
[14:30:08] <buZz> did someone put money in meego recently or something?
[14:30:14] <woglinde> buzz I am not
[14:30:16] <av500> buZz: all the ppl that have this obsolete n900....
[14:30:27] <woglinde> rpm is no go
[14:31:08] <ynezz> money as in buy their stock?
[14:31:29] <buZz> hey, did the opensource movement just leave nokia?
[14:32:02] <ynezz> why?
[14:32:17] <buZz> http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/05/nokias-meego-chief-resigns/
[14:32:37] <buZz> seems like a lot of high ppl in nokia are jumping ship recently
[14:33:12] <ynezz> -ENOTROLLS
[14:33:36] <ynezz> I would jump of the window also, wtf? rpm
[14:34:14] <buZz> :)
[14:34:47] <ynezz> who knows what's behind it, but would like to know it also
[14:35:07] <jedix> jannau: k, I'll try that
[14:35:45] <av500> woglinde: as if the choise of package manager would matter
[14:35:49] <jedix> here's what I'm going to do: get a kernel that works, try the config with our source and when it doesn't work try to suggest .32 as our kernel of choice
[14:36:10] <buZz> hmm, i have a nokia contact somewhere, maybe i should PM him
[14:36:29] <buZz> anyway, time to grab the ordered parts for my dumpster-dived oscilloscope and fix it <3
[14:36:36] <ynezz> funny comment "I bet his letter of resignation just said, Me Go."
[14:36:42] <buZz> lol
[14:36:54] <djlewis> arg arg
[14:36:59] <koen> fork it as yougo
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[14:40:14] <ynezz> hm, looks like that marketing trolls are getting everywhere "MeeGo equivalent to Forum Nokia Champion?"
[14:40:49] * av500 did not understand the quoted sentence
[14:41:06] <jannau> I could imagine there was a lot of frustration over hiring a ex-MS manager as CEO at nokia
[14:41:23] <mru> hmm, my g4 is overheating or something...
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[14:43:32] <djlewis> mru: did you look for swollen caps?
[14:43:44] <mru> I'm getting bit flips
[14:45:34] <djlewis> This is one good looking RC engine: http://www.hobbypartz.com/72p-fs400ar.html
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[14:46:49] <av500> djlewis: your robot is now airborne?
[14:47:04] <av500> or you just use that as an onboard generator?
[14:47:31] <djlewis> with a beagleboard, some gyros, 3-axis sensors, the sky is the limit :)
[14:48:05] <djlewis> well, a prop of course :)
[14:48:36] <foobaz> bit pricey
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[15:12:48] <hitlin37> im connected with both dvi-d and s video,gone through dss doc,now how wanted ot see display on both dvi-d and tv,im following clone gfx overlay steps
[15:13:49] <hitlin37> when i do echo "0" > $ovl0/enable1 my dvi-d display turns black ,so im not able to proceed further
[15:14:46] <hitlin37> should i directly do echo "1" > $tv/enabled after w and h steps
[15:15:19] <av500> well, sending 0 to enable will turn something off....
[15:15:53] <hitlin37> after w and h steps how to enable display on tv
[15:16:07] <av500> echo "1" > $ovl1/enable
[15:16:09] <av500> or so
[15:16:15] <av500> its written there, no?
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[15:17:09] <hitlin37> i did echo "1" > $tv/enabled,only white lines showing
[15:17:22] <hitlin37> horizontal white lines
[15:17:29] <av500> and the overlay?
[15:17:31] <buZz> did you enable VENC in the kernel?
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[15:19:20] <hitlin37> hmmm....i build everything on narcissus,how do i check that now
[15:19:49] <hitlin37> is it enabled by default?
[15:20:03] <_koen_> zcat /proc/config.gz
[15:23:25] <hitlin37> is venc under graphic section in config.gz
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[15:26:13] <hitlin37> zcat only showing config.gz till library routines
[15:28:51] <hitlin37> no venc there in config.gz
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[15:37:12] <woglinde> hm panda
[15:39:01] <topfs2> yummy :)
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[15:39:53] <hitlin37> so directly following the steps in dss is not enough?am i missing something
[15:47:07] <hitlin37> whenever i do echo "1" > $tv/enabled ,after all the steps,same white lines ,but with some more disturbance
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[15:47:43] <hitlin37> my cable is s-video to rca
[15:48:32] <hitlin37> plus on my dvi-d screen ,it starts saying input Not Support
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[15:53:03] <JDuke127> http://forums.sun.com/thread.jspa?messageID=11053624�
[15:53:24] <JDuke127> if someone interested in migrating clutter to javafx , let me know.
[15:53:46] <av500> javafx? wtf?
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[15:54:17] <koen> java*, wtf?
[15:54:34] <JDuke127> using Clutter over JavaFX
[15:54:52] <JDuke127> with Visual JavaFX packs on netbeans
[15:54:58] <JDuke127> WYSWYG
[15:55:09] <JDuke127> bad idea hah ?
[15:55:34] <topfs2> koen, I submited for the panda early adoper btw
[15:55:35] <mru> bad doesn't quite do it justice
[15:55:46] <woglinde> topfs2 I am thinking about that too
[15:55:58] <topfs2> woglinde, what project?
[15:56:02] <woglinde> trying to get the openjdkstuff run from oe
[15:56:14] <JDuke127> no i do on jamvm
[15:56:26] <woglinde> its as lame as the gentoo port
[15:56:27] <woglinde> *g*
[15:56:53] <JDuke127> which one lame ?
[15:57:28] <woglinde> jduke gentoo pandasupport
[15:57:53] <av500> JDuke127: what do you want javafx for?
[15:58:02] <woglinde> hm I could steal the java-wine stuff and make a recipe in oe
[15:58:08] <woglinde> args
[15:58:10] <woglinde> arm-wine
[15:58:28] <topfs2> woglinde, would be great to have java on it I can imagine
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[15:58:40] <JDuke127> av500 , javafx for embedded systems easy gui design without X11 support on java
[15:58:43] <topfs2> never looked to far down into the platform specific stuff but I bet theres lots to bugfix, and do :)
[15:58:43] <JDuke127> pure JavaFX SGX binding like.
[15:58:45] <woglinde> topfs2 you have java on beagle yet
[15:59:02] <topfs2> woglinde, have or not have?
[15:59:07] <woglinde> you have
[15:59:23] <JDuke127> if some people interested in
[15:59:31] <JDuke127> we can open a public javafx project
[15:59:49] <JDuke127> high performance clutter binding on javafx
[15:59:55] <woglinde> jduke javafx is more dead than silverlight
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[16:00:25] <JDuke127> woglinde , did you use visual javafx tool ?
[16:00:47] <woglinde> jduke there are so many stuff I can test all
[16:00:50] <JDuke127> it will be better then Adobe Flex soon
[16:00:51] <woglinde> cannt
[16:01:05] <woglinde> jduke video2000 was better than vhs
[16:01:13] <woglinde> but vhs won
[16:01:26] <av500> JDuke127: omg, is this the only visual gui builder in the whole world?
[16:01:45] <JDuke127> clutter has visual builder ? i donno
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[16:02:07] <JDuke127> i just saw json for clutter
[16:02:17] <woglinde> jduke there is qml now
[16:03:18] <woglinde> and nobdy seems really have an intrest in javafx
[16:03:26] <av500> so let it die
[16:03:34] <woglinde> oracle has?
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[16:04:41] <JDuke127> oracle yes
[16:04:44] <JDuke127> they support much
[16:05:19] * av500 wishes for JDuke127 to stop trolling
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[16:06:53] <woglinde> hi emeb
[16:06:57] <JDuke127> ahh
[16:07:07] <JDuke127> QML seems nice
[16:07:37] <hitlin37> what the white lines on tv means
[16:08:02] <emeb> hi woglinde
[16:08:55] <woglinde> JDuke127 sorry to say, but even tv-manufactors dont use javafx
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[16:11:18] <JDuke127> btw , clutter is neon optimized on bitbake ?
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[16:11:30] <woglinde> aeh?
[16:11:50] <woglinde> you mean if the openembedded recipe has a clutter with neon patches
[16:12:02] <woglinde> look into the recipe yourself
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[16:41:34] <JDuke127> how can i add new include h files ? "bitbake clutter" automatically adds clutter libraries to my arm gcc compiler or i need to add it manually ? if yes , how from ipk files on host machine?
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[16:56:13] <koen> woglinde: http://xkcd.com/801
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[17:38:30] <swapgg> fgf
[17:39:12] <swapgg> does any one know how to make the processor run at a lower rate? Is this a change in the kernel?
[17:39:46] <koen> cpufreq-set -f 125 ?
[17:41:41] <swapgg> I will look that up "cpufreq-set -f 125"
[17:41:41] <swapgg> thanks
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[18:01:18] <ajay> hi all i am getting boot message as Bad eraseblock 3893 at 0x1e6a0000
[18:03:00] <ajay> booting is stopped at stage libertas: failed to load helper firmware
[18:03:13] <ajay> not getting terminal or gui login prompt
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[18:05:14] <Guest77911> hello
[18:05:30] <djlewis_> gm
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[18:07:19] <ajay> djlewis, gm
[18:07:45] <ajay> djlewis, at last i am able to get my minicom prompt
[18:07:50] <ajay> thanks
[18:08:19] <djlewis_> coool, you were using straight thru rather than cross over cable?
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[18:09:52] <ajay> djlewis, yes
[18:10:14] <ajay> now i just changed DB9 cable connection
[18:10:19] <ajay> and it worked
[18:10:43] <ajay> but booting is stopped at stage libertas: failed to load helper firmware
[18:11:04] <djlewis_> sounds like bad helper firmware
[18:11:13] <ajay> djlewis, yes
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[18:12:26] <djlewis_> so that tells me you built your own kernel..
[18:12:59] <djlewis_> as the Demo and narcissus images usually work as is.
[18:13:34] <ajay> djlewis, which ubuntu version will be good 10.10 or 10.04
[18:13:52] <djlewis_> I only run Ubuntu on my pc's
[18:14:16] <djlewis_> go with stable
[18:16:50] <djlewis_> the bleeding edge is not always te most productive place to be.
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[18:19:46] <ajay> djlewis, which touchscreen around 10inch works with BB ubuntu ?
[18:19:56] <djlewis_> dont know
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[18:29:59] <koen> jkridner|work: 899611ee (Linus Torvalds 2010-09-28 18:01:22 -0700 4) EXTRAVERSION = -rc6
[18:30:43] <ajay> djlewis, one doubt
[18:30:49] <ajay> what is meaning of fatload mmc 0:1 0x80300000 uImage
[18:31:05] <ajay> and fatload mmc 0 80000000 uImage
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[18:46:25] <ajay> djlewis, now i got gui login screen as well,but USB port is not working
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[19:15:25] <texasfight123> hi all, i just got my beagleboard and all the wires. i plug it into my lcd monitor and all i get is a blank orange screen. mouse/keyboard do nothing. suggestions?
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[19:19:32] <mru> hmm, #if 0 /* These are not implemented yet. */
[19:19:36] <mru> in a system header
[19:20:26] <koen> would be worse if it was #if 1
[19:20:34] <texasfight123> i don't see a single line of text, it's just a blank orange screen
[19:21:03] <mru> you don't like orange?
[19:21:17] <mru> iirc there was a patch to make it purple
[19:21:18] <texasfight123> well i mean i got the beagleboard and it can't even startup
[19:21:25] <mru> 'course it can
[19:21:32] <mru> you're just not asking it nicely enough
[19:21:39] <texasfight123> please?:
[19:22:56] <texasfight123> i don't see a dog, nor terminal, nor text nor anything. it's just stuck on a blank orange screen
[19:23:29] <mru> do you have a serial terminal attached?
[19:24:08] <texasfight123> i have usb, power, and hdmi
[19:24:47] <ds2> Hmmmm
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[19:26:14] <b7500af1> http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardBeginners
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[19:29:12] <texasfight123> so i have to have a serial cable to the pc first?
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[19:44:36] <peterretief> hello all
[19:44:44] <peterretief> quick q
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[19:46:21] <peterretief> i am echo > hello to angstrom beagle serial port - doesnt show under cat /dev/ttyxx but does work the other way back to my ubuntu box ???
[19:47:58] <peterretief> is cat /dev/ttyxx a resonable way to get input from serial?
[19:48:35] <peterretief> hello?
[19:48:39] <_av500_> peterretief: and how did you setup the serial params?
[19:48:50] <djlewis_> texasfight123: this was meant for you: (2:26:14 PM) b7500af1: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardBeginners
[19:49:32] <peterretief> _av500_: i just connected via serial cable - USB ine end
[19:49:50] <peterretief> one end
[19:51:11] <peterretief> on the beagle side i have /dev/ttyS2 used
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[19:52:18] <peterretief> this works sudo screen -U /dev/ttyUSB0 115200
[19:52:35] <peterretief> i can login etc
[19:53:23] <peterretief> but if i wait for a char on the beagle side - i get nothing?
[19:53:54] <peterretief> i want to read byte for byte btw
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[19:55:42] <peterretief> i have tried ubuntu on beagle but i find angstrom smoother
[19:55:47] <_av500_> peterretief: if you are logged in into the bb via serial, how do you want to receive bytes from the pc at the same time?
[19:55:50] <peterretief> and easier
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[19:56:24] <peterretief> _av500_: i disconnect the serial
[19:56:41] <peterretief> have a monitor switch
[19:56:54] <peterretief> ah sorry that must be confusing
[19:57:17] * peterretief berates himself
[19:58:08] <peterretief> its weird that it works from the beagle to the pc
[19:58:28] <_av500_> peterretief: when you disconect serial, how so you interact with the bb?
[19:59:02] <peterretief> i have a monitor with a usb keyboard mouse etc
[19:59:23] <_av500_> peterretief: ok
[19:59:24] <peterretief> not the monitor
[19:59:34] <_av500_> but you still have a getty process listening on your serial
[19:59:39] <dm8tbr> do you also kill the getty?
[19:59:41] <peterretief> ja
[19:59:45] <_av500_> ja?
[19:59:55] <peterretief> the getty didnt die easy
[20:00:01] <_av500_> lol
[20:00:02] <ds2> can you verify what you are doing works on x86 first?
[20:00:29] * _av500_ imagines peterretief killing getty dexter style
[20:00:34] <dm8tbr> killing the getty is removing the line from inittab and then init q and then killing it
[20:00:59] <_av500_> and dumping pieces of it in /dev/null at night
[20:01:02] <peterretief> ooh
[20:01:23] <dm8tbr> _av500_: dissolving it in acid is said to help too
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[20:02:36] <peterretief> i need to get more angry i think
[20:02:59] * koen wonders how dexter sounds in german
[20:03:41] * peterretief wonders what dexter is
[20:05:35] <_av500_> koen: no idea, i dont listen to translated stuff
[20:05:39] <ds2> unless you are running ubuntu and there is no inittab in the normal sense ;)
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[20:07:33] <peterretief> angstrom
[20:08:07] <peterretief> ubuntu was a bit flimsy
[20:08:23] <peterretief> i use it as a desktop
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[20:12:44] <peterretief> if i want to restart my init can i go init 3?
[20:12:53] <peterretief> or inti 5?
[20:13:09] <peterretief> have a vague memory
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[20:16:30] <peterretief> hey that worked
[20:16:32] <peterretief> thanks
[20:17:33] <peterretief> i whacked the inittab then killed the process , init 3 and 5 and started cat again
[20:17:52] * peterretief looks back to who helped
[20:18:28] <peterretief> thansk dm8tbr
[20:22:00] <dm8tbr> :)
[20:22:36] <dm8tbr> peterretief: init q forces an update
[20:22:47] <dm8tbr> without changing the actual runlevel
[20:22:54] <peterretief> ah ok
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[20:23:48] <peterretief> changing the runlevel is prob a bit rude
[20:24:53] <peterretief> i dont think ubuntu has runlevels?
[20:25:40] <jacekowski> ekhms7
[20:25:44] <jacekowski> it does
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[20:38:07] <peterretief> anyway good night all
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[20:41:19] <b7500af1> mru, question about neon.. I've read that as long as you order your instructions correctly, you can avoid any wasted CPU cycles during the neon data load times. I was looking online for some examples but not seeing anything. You know of anywhere I can look?
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[20:41:59] <mru> neon loads have no latency
[20:42:09] <mru> if you hit cache
[20:42:18] <mru> if you miss it takes forever regardless
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[20:46:05] <_av500_> koen: congrats on your new coworker
[20:46:17] <b7500af1> ok. I guess I was reading from here.. http://pandorawiki.org/Floating_Point_Optimization#NFP_.2F_VFP_to_ARM_Transfers
[20:47:12] <koen> _av500_: yeah....
[20:47:16] <b7500af1> a few other places mention a 20 cycle stall when moving from ARM -> neon or back
[20:47:53] <koen> b7500af1: is your code online somewhere?
[20:47:56] <jkridner|work> Jefro: ping
[20:48:07] <b7500af1> koen, no
[20:49:37] <mru> moving neon->arm takes 20 cycles
[20:49:39] <mru> don't do that
[20:49:49] <Crofton|work> ah
[20:50:02] <Crofton|work> so NEON swallows all data an d hoarde it!
[20:50:20] <mru> store to memory instead
[20:50:29] <mru> and don't try to read it for another 20 cycles
[20:50:49] <Crofton|work> so store to mem, not move to arm reg?
[20:50:56] <Jefro> jkridner|work pong
[20:51:33] * Crofton|work is off to hear someone from qualcomm speak
[20:51:37] <mru> if at all practical, yes
[20:51:38] <Crofton|work> and to eat their food
[20:52:17] <_av500_> Crofton|work: have fun
[20:52:23] <_av500_> ... with the food
[20:52:34] <jkridner|work> Jefro: planning mentor summit time?
[20:53:10] <_av500_> jkridner|work: might come over to -gsoc
[20:53:10] <jkridner|work> I thought I did put myself on the wiki, but I am purely interrupt driven at this point. if it didn't seem like such a huge opportunity, there is no way I'd go.
[20:53:14] <b7500af1> mru, thanks
[20:53:58] <Jefro> jkridner|work - I thought you were on there at one point as well, but not now
[20:54:37] <Jefro> we aren't all here right now, are we?
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[20:55:29] * _av500_ masks koen
[20:55:34] <koen> jkridner|work: xM support and B/C/XM detection is upstream in .36rc6, forward porting the expansion stuff now with a huge help from rcn-ee
[20:55:48] <jkridner|work> koen: cool!
[20:56:31] <jkridner|work> I think several patches still didn't make it, plus some "experience/testing" stuff for u-boot. are you reviewing the list?
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[20:56:48] <koen> only kernel stuff atm
[20:56:55] <koen> uboot hopefully later this week
[20:57:01] <jkridner|work> guess the new stuff will all use the devtree/hwmod stuff?
[20:57:29] <koen> dunno, not at that level yet
[20:57:41] * koen fears for camera support to hit hwmod speed bumps
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[21:52:09] <topfs2> ping koen
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[21:52:43] <djlewis_> arrgh! was out of town on a service call and found a front tire was shreding.
[21:53:11] <djlewis_> finally found a place that could take care of the front two and the front brakes were worn out too.
[21:53:12] <_av500_> djlewis_: putting air into tires extend their lifetime a lot
[21:53:53] <djlewis_> I happened to have the new front brake parts in the truck that I had purchased in '03'
[21:54:01] <djlewis_> save me some :)
[21:54:01] <_av500_> also makes for a smoother ride
[21:54:13] <djlewis_> yeah it is ridong much smoother now :)
[21:54:32] <_av500_> ridingdong
[21:54:42] <_av500_> ice cream truck? :)
[21:54:54] <djlewis_> OK. s/ridong/riding :P
[21:56:15] * djlewis_ is still p o'd over the extra $350 of unexpected expenditure.
[21:56:21] <djlewis_> takes from my toys fund :(
[21:59:38] <ds2> it is only brakes... do it yourself
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[22:00:50] <djlewis_> yeah, I did the rear set back when they needed it but something was holding me back from attempting the front.
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[22:01:02] <djlewis_> i think it was a tool i didn't have.
[22:01:13] <_av500_> no large hammer?
[22:01:51] <djlewis_> hey, my 11 year old truck only has 213k plus miles on it.
[22:02:53] <djlewis_> a little young to beat on :)
[22:03:41] <_av500_> beat gently
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[22:18:14] <mcz_br> hey, everybody
[22:18:29] <mcz_br> I wonder if anybody here has some experience with Rowboat + Beagle
[22:18:33] * djlewis_ prefers pizza
[22:18:49] <djlewis_> sounds romantic
[22:19:03] <mcz_br> i am facing some problems when migrating from Embinux to Rowboat
[22:19:19] <mcz_br> every boot, my EXT partition is destroyed
[22:20:17] <mru> http://blogs.sun.com/clo/resource/200711120739.jpg
[22:21:35] <djlewis_> rofl
[22:22:53] <_av500_> mru: not bad, what gg search for that?
[22:23:08] <mru> row boat dog
[22:23:17] <djlewis_> laughed so hard tears came to my eyes
[22:23:27] <mru> image search
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[22:24:12] <_av500_> mru: extra points for sun blog :)
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[22:25:59] <_av500_> mcz_br: #rowboat maybe?
[22:26:12] <_av500_> (if there is anybody there...)
[22:27:23] <djlewis_> heading home to take my beagle to the lake ;)
[22:27:25] <djlewis_> bbl.
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[22:41:42] <mcz_br> av500: i tried #rowboat
[22:41:54] <mcz_br> it is empty :)
[22:43:14] <mru> capsized?
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[22:53:59] <_av500_> gn
[22:57:34] <topfs2> sleep tight
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[23:55:07] <hitlin37> av500 ,overlay0 shows gfx
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[23:57:08] <Heff01> #rowboat
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[23:59:58] <Heff01> I'm looking for any flavour of Android that has prebuilt images for Beagle-XM, can anyone help?