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  • [00:27:39] <ds2> is it time to play name to ways to get OE to build a different kernel? :D
  • [00:28:43] <mmarker> Simple
  • [00:28:46] <mmarker> Really, it is.
  • [00:28:52] <mmarker> For a beagleboard?
  • [00:29:46] <mmarker> set PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel to whatever you want.
  • [00:29:49] <mmarker> in your local.conf
  • [00:30:21] <mmarker> At least, that should work, in theory.
  • [00:31:02] <mmarker> To check, you can get bitbake to cough up dot files on what it'll build
  • [00:31:14] <mmarker> make sure your kernel package is there. then you're G2G
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  • [00:44:08] <ds2> execllent, can you name another? :D
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  • [00:45:21] <mmarker> linux-omap is one
  • [00:45:29] <mmarker> I think linux-omap-psp builds by default
  • [00:45:42] <mmarker> you can also build the packages by: "bitbake linux-omap"
  • [00:46:01] <mmarker> they need not be part of an image. The OE wiki has a good bitbake tutorial
  • [00:46:03] <ds2> was that so hard that people have to complain to a list on how to build it? :D
  • [00:46:16] * ds2 checks to make sure it is not Koen in disguises ;)
  • [00:46:30] <mmarker> Heh.
  • [00:46:40] <mmarker> I'm just trying to figure out how to get the die id off the OMAP cpu
  • [00:46:51] <mmarker> the docs I have say the addy that -uboot pokes is "Reserved"
  • [00:46:55] <mmarker> I never like that
  • [00:46:57] <ds2> think there is code to do that already
  • [00:47:04] <mmarker> Not in kernelspace
  • [00:47:04] <ds2> oh you want something official? :D
  • [00:47:14] <mmarker> Yea, since the kernel seems to remap things
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  • [00:50:21] <mmarker> It looks to be "L4"
  • [00:50:28] <mmarker> which if I'm reading this right.
  • [00:50:43] <mmarker> well, let me be honest, I am familiar with ARM
  • [00:50:50] <mmarker> OMAP as an ARM implementation, notsomuch
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  • [02:16:18] <mmarker> Oh good, get the right datasheet, and everything makes sense.
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  • [05:57:39] <ds2> '
  • [06:00:37] <emeb|mac> "
  • [06:04:57] <av500> '''
  • [06:05:47] <dm8tbr> .??'??.
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  • [07:17:31] <woglinde> good morning
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  • [07:24:33] <_koen_> good morning all
  • [07:25:47] <av500> gm
  • [07:26:14] <woglinde> hi koen and av500
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  • [07:28:31] <a> hi all, i'm trying to install ubuntu and I'm at the install screen of "Choose Language" but my keyboard is not working
  • [07:28:48] <a> if I use a power hub or just plug in the keyboard directly
  • [07:28:52] <hitlin37> why do not required to push pop neon reg,d way we do for core reg
  • [07:29:18] <a> could someone point me into the right direction ?
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  • [07:31:42] <woglinde> a do you have the serial console connected?
  • [07:32:58] <a> nope
  • [07:33:06] <a> trying to avoid it if possible
  • [07:33:32] <woglinde> but now you could use it to look whats wrong with the keyboard
  • [07:34:29] <a> ya I guess ill do that tomorrow, just need to find some serial cables
  • [07:36:18] <a> http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard#OTG
  • [07:37:55] <mru> why are people so averse to serial cables?
  • [07:38:06] <woglinde> dont know
  • [07:38:08] <a> so I do need to short the OTC to enable host keyboard
  • [07:38:14] <woglinde> the cable saves life
  • [07:38:38] <a> just moved to a new apt and need to unpack a bunch of boxes to find or make one, thats my personal reason
  • [07:40:58] <a> still not totally sure thats what I want to do, I dont want the OTG to be in host mode, i want to connect a keyboard to P7 USB HOST
  • [07:41:19] <a> maybe I'm missing something, a keyboard should be able to connect to that without any addtional configuration right?
  • [07:43:26] <av500> hmm, the XM default image on the uSD is console only?
  • [07:44:05] <koen> it's only the ramdisk image, nothing in the ext2 partition yet
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  • [07:44:18] <av500> what can i put quickly?
  • [07:44:40] * av500 finds a 256MB uSD...
  • [07:44:44] <av500> very helpful
  • [07:45:10] <koen> generate one with narcissus, untar to second partition
  • [07:45:14] <mru> av500: such exist?
  • [07:45:22] <av500> yes
  • [07:45:28] <mru> +still
  • [07:45:41] <av500> well, it sat in my office for 1-2 ys i guess
  • [07:45:43] <woglinde> I have 128 mb here
  • [07:45:48] <mru> come to think of it, I have a 32MB one somewhere
  • [07:45:48] <av500> you win
  • [07:45:53] <av500> mru wins
  • [07:45:55] <mru> from the time before they were called uSD
  • [07:46:04] <mru> came with a phone
  • [07:46:06] <koen> transhflash
  • [07:46:08] <koen> -h
  • [07:46:12] <mru> trashflash
  • [07:46:19] * av500 looks for his smart media cards
  • [07:46:43] <dm8tbr> 8M CF anyone?
  • [07:46:48] <av500> ok, here: 2MB smart media!!!
  • [07:47:13] <woglinde> av500 wins
  • [07:47:17] <av500> YES!
  • [07:48:18] * mru thinks of digital cameras with floppy drives
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  • [07:48:41] <av500> mavica
  • [07:50:27] <Animule> haha
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  • [07:55:12] <av500> here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/av500/4995504604/
  • [07:55:29] <mru> av500: and the floppy adaptor?
  • [07:55:37] <av500> dont have one :(
  • [07:55:58] <av500> i bought some SMs on ebay when I implemented reading from them
  • [07:57:22] <mru> those were dark times
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  • [08:05:45] <av500> mru: http://www.flickr.com/photos/av500/4994910683/
  • [08:09:29] <mru> nice collection
  • [08:09:47] <mru> hmm, wonder where my 32MB memorystick has gone
  • [08:09:55] <mru> I'm pretty sure I had one
  • [08:10:03] <av500> i have a CF gprs modem somewhere too
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  • [08:15:29] <kblin> mru: I've used a digicam with a floppy drive at school
  • [08:16:08] <kblin> that was..;. quite a while ago
  • [08:16:25] <mru> kblin: I remember seeing one some time in the 90s
  • [08:17:02] <kblin> sounds about right :)
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  • [08:18:53] <av500> floppy, pah, still video rules: http://www.mrmartinweb.com/digital.html
  • [08:19:33] <av500> I once had it in my hands
  • [08:20:24] <mru> "Video Still" hmm...
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  • [08:21:06] <av500> yep
  • [08:21:14] <av500> it basically recorded one video frame
  • [08:21:23] <av500> and played that back in a loop
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  • [09:56:59] <av500> unstable? stable? next-eglibc? next?
  • [09:57:24] <dm8tbr> penultimate?
  • [09:57:32] <av500> not offered
  • [09:57:54] <koen> av500: unstable is the best choice currently
  • [09:57:57] <av500> ok
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  • [10:07:31] <av500> koen: duke3d is "X"
  • [10:13:56] <koen> indeed, let me look into that
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  • [10:29:15] <_koen_> if tomcat shows up, the SR patches will hit angstrom today
  • [10:29:58] <mru> and if he doesn't?
  • [10:30:51] <av500> _koen_: the "x" makes it fail?
  • [10:30:59] <av500> coz it stopped updatin now
  • [10:31:52] <_koen_> no, it will continue
  • [10:32:13] <av500> Current uncompressed image size: 692M
  • [10:32:21] <av500> I'll wait
  • [10:32:31] <_koen_> it's running bzip2 on that, takes a while
  • [10:34:37] <av500> k
  • [10:34:56] <av500> a line sayin "bzipping.." might help :)
  • [10:36:45] <_koen_> jkridner was going to have a look at giving better status feedback
  • [10:37:35] <av500> k
  • [10:37:39] <av500> its done now, lets d/l
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  • [10:49:37] <koen> http://xkcd.com/303/
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  • [11:51:53] <hitlin37> how do i use table lookup for a table of say 1024
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  • [11:57:55] <hitlin37> for 256 bits it can be done,but how to do it for bigger table
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  • [12:07:48] <hitlin37> or is it i find VTBL very limiting
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  • [12:09:31] <mmarker> Yay. Kernel panic! Time to figure out why reading the dieid is causing this oops...
  • [12:12:20] <hitlin37> if someone could suggest a optimized way of using vtbl....
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  • [12:24:15] <hitlin37> manual says full table lookup is automatically performed by hardware
  • [12:31:00] <mru> hitlin37: what are you trying to do?
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  • [12:43:39] <hitlin37> i want to optimize a func.it reads from a table but table is of size 1536
  • [12:47:15] <hitlin37> i thought of using VTBl but,my lookup is not linear
  • [12:47:44] <mru> you're stuck with plain ldr unless there's something you're not telling me
  • [12:48:01] <jkridner> _koen_: better status feedback on what? I can't easily follow the conversation above.
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  • [12:52:54] <hitlin37_> yes in one way,as offset is not linear,so can't use vldr
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  • [12:54:26] <mru> hitlin37: what size is each entry in the table?
  • [12:56:34] <hitlin37> outi=ini_var[fd_table[i]],fd_table is int ,rest float
  • [12:58:57] <koen> jkridner: narcissus progress
  • [12:59:15] <hitlin37> fd_table[i] returns anything between 0-1536,but not linearly
  • [12:59:37] <mru> can you show me the entire function?
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  • [13:00:24] <_koen_> jkridner: the -r90 kernel should fix the flakiness when using both cortex and dsp fully
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  • [13:01:31] <_koen_> jkridner: _roger_ and I gave up waiting for PSP to push the patches to their git, so we put them in OE for the time being
  • [13:02:01] <hitlin37> http://pastebin.com/vtHxSpVQ
  • [13:02:38] <mru> that's not all of it
  • [13:03:32] <_koen_> goto fatladysings;
  • [13:04:07] <Crofton> angstrom-gnome-task annoys me
  • [13:04:30] <Crofton> is there another task or set of tasks I can use to make a basic x!! image
  • [13:04:35] <hitlin37> const int fd_table ={83, 1996, 1883, 414, 1....
  • [13:04:49] * mru gives up
  • [13:05:00] <hitlin37> const int fd_table[1536]
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  • [13:05:51] <hitlin37> not sure,if i can share d table
  • [13:06:08] <mru> the contents of the able do not matter
  • [13:06:12] <mru> *table
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  • [13:07:55] <_koen_> Crofton: depends on what you want
  • [13:08:24] <hitlin37> http://pastebin.com/qiiby7k6
  • [13:08:45] <Crofton> a desktop style image
  • [13:08:54] <Crofton> but lots of candy is not needed
  • [13:09:03] <Crofton> it will need to support qt at some point
  • [13:09:09] <_koen_> angstrom-task-gnome doesn't have lots of candy
  • [13:09:19] <_koen_> angstrom-task-gnome-big does :)
  • [13:09:32] <_koen_> but you can choose xfce4 or e17 tasks for something lighter
  • [13:09:37] <mmarker> Can I piggyback on Crof's question... id like the same thing, butbwith good vid playback support
  • [13:09:40] <_koen_> or twm + xterm
  • [13:09:57] <_koen_> mmarker: use narcissus, that gives you tons of options
  • [13:13:08] <mmarker> Gotcha
  • [13:13:54] <hitlin37> <mru>a hint will do for me
  • [13:14:24] <mru> what happens after this?
  • [13:14:26] <Crofton> well, it sucked in firefox
  • [13:14:31] <mru> does fd_table ever change?
  • [13:14:32] <Crofton> and isn't building
  • [13:14:37] <hitlin37> nopes
  • [13:14:47] <mmarker> Granted, I also tend to roll my own so I can have the additional packages available. But i'm sick like that.
  • [13:14:50] <Crofton> k
  • [13:14:51] <mru> do the contents of ini_var[12] ever change?
  • [13:14:55] <Crofton> let me try those out
  • [13:14:59] <Crofton> I suck at X
  • [13:15:04] <Crofton> and vi
  • [13:15:10] <Crofton> I owe AJ a beer or to
  • [13:15:12] <Crofton> two
  • [13:15:44] <koen> Crofton: AJ and cliff owe me a beer for fixing the breakage to nodejs
  • [13:16:05] <Crofton> I suggest we all get together and buy each other beer
  • [13:16:10] <mmarker> Lien: and do we have a proper place to send beagle specific kernel patches to? I hope to have my xm using dieid for smsc mac address finally ironed out tonight.
  • [13:16:22] <koen> mmarker: beagle ml
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  • [13:16:34] <mru> hitlin37: this looks like it's permuting two arrays
  • [13:16:47] <mru> where does the input come from?
  • [13:16:52] <mru> what happens to the output?
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  • [13:17:37] <mmarker> Koen: good. Need to fix one last thing and test. Hopefully remove this minor heartburn of mine...
  • [13:17:58] <hitlin37> yes,it changes
  • [13:18:18] <mru> and where does it come from?
  • [13:18:24] <mru> why is this performance-critical?
  • [13:19:10] <hitlin37> its happening in real-time,so....wanted to reduced loops
  • [13:19:21] <mru> that doesn't answer my question
  • [13:19:26] <hitlin37> i mean input data is real time streaming
  • [13:19:35] <mru> that's rather vague
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  • [13:21:45] <hitlin37> it comes as a output from fft
  • [13:22:12] <hitlin37> n fft is already optimized ,so
  • [13:22:21] <mmarker> What are you trying to do, and how are you trying to do it.
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  • [13:22:35] <mru> hitlin37: and then what?
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  • [13:22:47] <mmarker> Always a good place to start to explain a process.
  • [13:22:56] <mru> what consumes the permuted arrays?
  • [13:23:14] <hitlin37> and then goes to soft decision
  • [13:23:19] <mru> could it be changed to expect the order as output from the fft?
  • [13:24:34] <hitlin37> my order is 11
  • [13:26:49] <hitlin37> well
  • [13:26:57] <hitlin37> code is pretty standard
  • [13:27:15] <mru> standard code can only give standard performance
  • [13:27:35] <hitlin37> ya,it gives on x86
  • [13:27:42] <hitlin37> im doing it on arm
  • [13:28:30] <mru> it sounds like your pouring in glue between ill-fitting blocks
  • [13:29:11] <_koen_> gorilla glue?
  • [13:29:45] <mmarker> Gorilla glue is a fine cyanoacrylate. This sounds more like mint flavored paste
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  • [13:30:03] <hitlin37> i guess i got my answer
  • [13:31:17] <_av500_> soft decision?
  • [13:31:21] <mru> next he'll say he's using openmax
  • [13:31:22] <mmarker> May want to look at what you're trying to accomplish and see of there's a better way. Maybe getting the fft routine to do some of your work for you.
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  • [13:31:56] <hitlin37> u r right ,but i have both now,openmax n ffmpeg
  • [13:33:43] <hitlin37> for d second one thanks to mru
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  • [13:35:28] <_koen_> mmarker: gorlila glue is supposed to be polyurethane based :)
  • [13:35:51] <_koen_> brokenmax?
  • [13:35:59] <_av500_> not banana based?
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  • [13:38:50] <mmarker> You're right, it is. My bad.
  • [13:39:04] <mru> banana?
  • [13:39:50] <mru> bananas was an album by deep purple
  • [13:40:12] <mmarker> Also a good source of potassium
  • [13:40:14] <_koen_> early onset friday syndrome
  • [13:40:46] <mru> and there was a cartoon band called gorillaz
  • [13:41:23] <_koen_> they had sunshine in a bag
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  • [14:00:05] <tsaaps_zzz> one git question: should I be using the branch "stable/2009" or "org.openembedded.dev" ?
  • [14:00:31] <mru> 2009, when was that?
  • [14:00:33] <tsaaps_zzz> the latter seems to be more active
  • [14:00:34] * mru can't remember
  • [14:00:38] <mru> it was so long ago
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  • [14:00:53] <tsaaps_zzz> hehe ;)
  • [14:01:23] <tsaaps_zzz> I think I was following some old guides when I chacked that out this spring
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  • [14:02:37] <tsaaps_zzz> good thing i switched to org.openembedded.dev then i guess
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  • [14:07:56] <tsaaps_zzz> oh oh and another, unrelated, question: Where do I find an overview of the changes between the different omap kernel versions? (yes, I'm googling on the side) I don't mean the git logs. Did someone compile an overview list?
  • [14:08:19] <koen> tsaaps_zzz: go to http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/ and read the first post below the introductions
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  • [14:09:45] <chrisAVR> hi, did someone here manage to run xbmc? except koen, for sure :-)
  • [14:10:14] <chrisAVR> i run xbmc and just get a black screen with a black mouse with some white surrounding pixels
  • [14:10:25] <chrisAVR> on angstrom built recently with narcissus
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  • [14:15:06] <dm8tbr> chrisAVR: that sounds like something I've had on my hardware in a different context
  • [14:15:15] <dm8tbr> chrisAVR: wrong fb mode
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  • [14:16:34] <dm8tbr> chrisAVR: in my situation X11 would go black with only a few pixels visible due to some transparency screw-up in ARGB32 mode
  • [14:16:55] <dm8tbr> ymmv, just an idea
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  • [14:19:30] <chrisAVR> dm8btr: ok any hints on how to change fb-usage? I setup video mode in the boot arguments with 1024x768. Is this ok?
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  • [14:19:46] <tasslehoff> hm. would you guys recommend data=ordered or data=writeback for an ext3 partition on my sd-card?
  • [14:19:50] <chrisAVR> dm8btr: on BB XM btw
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  • [14:20:31] <jacekowski> tasslehoff: don't use ext3 on sd card
  • [14:21:04] <jacekowski> writeback is fast but files sometimes get mangle
  • [14:21:06] <jacekowski> mangled*
  • [14:22:41] <tasslehoff> jacekowski: because of wear? I use XorA's script, and that creates and ext3-partition.
  • [14:23:02] <jacekowski> because it's not filesystem designed to work from flash drives
  • [14:23:08] <jacekowski> and wear
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  • [14:23:10] <jacekowski> and performance
  • [14:23:15] <jacekowski> and reliability
  • [14:23:33] <dm8tbr> chrisAVR: you've got a typo, that doesn't hilight ;)
  • [14:23:35] <tasslehoff> jacekowski: so ext2 would be better?
  • [14:23:39] <jacekowski> no
  • [14:23:41] <jacekowski> worse
  • [14:23:46] <jacekowski> jffs
  • [14:23:52] <jacekowski> reiserfs
  • [14:23:55] <jacekowski> vfat
  • [14:23:56] <_koen_> heh
  • [14:24:02] <_koen_> jffs on block devices is stupid
  • [14:24:09] <_koen_> sd cards to internal wear leveling
  • [14:24:16] <dm8tbr> chrisAVR: better ask _koen_ what fb mode to use
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  • [14:24:25] <jacekowski> _koen_: i'm not so sure
  • [14:24:27] <_koen_> I use 720p on all my beagles
  • [14:24:35] <jacekowski> _koen_: i did some tries on sd cards
  • [14:24:42] <tasslehoff> _koen_: yeah. I chose ext3 after reading about the internal wear leveling
  • [14:24:53] <jacekowski> _koen_: and constantly writing same sectors kills it faster than writing whole card
  • [14:25:53] <jacekowski> so that wear leveling is at least suboptimal
  • [14:26:32] <tasslehoff> On my board, the ext3 partitions are mounted with: (rw,noatime,errors=continue,data=writeback)
  • [14:27:07] <chrisAVR> _koen_: so setting 720p60 is ok?
  • [14:27:22] <jacekowski> i've heard that data=writeback is an alias for lose_data_on_powerloss=true
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  • [14:29:34] <tasslehoff> jacekowski: hehe.
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  • [14:31:23] <tasslehoff> I wonder why it mounts as writeback. can't remember doing anything to make it.
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  • [14:32:39] <mru> jacekowski: unless you mount it with -o sync, you can always lose data on power failure
  • [14:33:10] <mru> the idea with journaling is that no matter what happens, you can recover a consistent filesystem easily
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  • [14:33:37] <jacekowski> well, but with data=ordered you may lose data
  • [14:33:42] <mru> properly written apps use fsync() to ensure important data gets written out
  • [14:33:44] <jacekowski> with data=writeback you will lose data
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  • [14:34:38] <tasslehoff> I changed it to mount with -o noatime instead of -o sync, since it felt dreadfully slow.
  • [14:34:54] <mru> sync is slow and kills stuff
  • [14:35:06] <mru> it does a full sync after _every_ write
  • [14:35:34] <tasslehoff> mru: hm. why is it the default in udev?
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  • [14:35:59] <mru> and udev does not mount stuff
  • [14:36:39] <mru> idiot systems like gnome like to mount removable media sync so it "works" when idiot users unplug without unmounting
  • [14:36:49] <mru> gnome, by idiots for idiots
  • [14:37:32] <tasslehoff> mru: I compile angstrom with OE, and udev has a script for media automounting (/etc/udev/scripts/mount.sh), which does $MOUNT -t auto -o sync $DEVNAME "/media/$name".
  • [14:37:44] <mru> that's not udev
  • [14:37:54] <mru> that's a script that someone has hooked up to be called by udev
  • [14:38:05] <mru> so whatever troll wrote that script is to blame
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  • [14:39:54] <tasslehoff> at least that's what I thought of until the discussioned turned to whether ext3 is a good idea at all :)
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  • [14:42:08] * XorA very quickly removes that sync from script
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  • [14:43:41] <tasslehoff> XorA: the mount.sh script I presume?
  • [14:43:48] <XorA> yeah
  • [14:43:59] <XorA> sync goes badly wrong when transmisison is running :-)
  • [14:44:18] <chrisAVR> _koen_: I tried with 720p60 but the monitor remains black.. any hints?
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  • [14:45:08] <mru> hi _roger_
  • [14:45:14] <tasslehoff> XorA: do you also have data=writeback on your ext3-partition?
  • [14:45:20] <XorA> no idea
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  • [14:47:19] <XorA> my SD loses power no more often than my desktop though
  • [14:47:28] <XorA> which is about once every 2 years at going rate
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  • [14:49:42] <Crofton> ok, gicing xfce46 a go
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  • [15:19:11] <tasslehoff> koen: did you have a post somewhere where you had tested read/write speed to sdcards?
  • [15:19:51] <koen> read speeds match the label, write speeds max out at 6-7MB/s
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  • [15:23:51] <tasslehoff> ok. my test gave 4.6MB/s for a class 2 card on Ubuntu using dd on a 1Gb file. I'll test it on my hardware next.
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  • [15:31:50] <koen> "class X" is useless
  • [15:32:02] <koen> sandisk realized that and prints MB/s on the label
  • [15:32:16] <koen> since kingstom class X performs like sandisk class X-3
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  • [15:44:13] <_koen_> jkridner: ping
  • [15:44:32] <jkridner> pong, but frantic.
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  • [16:01:01] <tasslehoff> koen: ok. I got ~3MB/s on the beagle using if=/dev/zero of=<file-on-ext3-partition>
  • [16:01:32] <koen> there's something not quite right in the mmc driver for omap3
  • [16:03:12] <tasslehoff> now if I only had a sandisk class -1 to test with (I have kingston)...
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  • [17:00:36] <ds2> a
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  • [17:06:44] <emeb> s
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  • [17:11:38] <mru> d
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  • [17:14:22] <ogra> f
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  • [17:21:07] <emeb> :)
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  • [17:33:48] <_av500_> ???
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  • [17:39:36] <dm8tbr> ???
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  • [17:40:33] <_av500_> it was a fancy char here. but i guees android and irrsi and screen fraked it up
  • [17:40:47] <mmarker> /j #milestone-modding
  • [17:40:56] <mmarker> Dammit
  • [17:41:03] <_av500_> sledgehammer?
  • [17:41:25] <_av500_> or dremel?
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  • [17:42:46] <mru> thermic lance
  • [17:44:55] <_av500_> right. for the efuses...
  • [17:45:12] <_av500_> that'll fuse em
  • [17:50:55] <woglinde_> re
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  • [18:06:34] <dm8tbr> _av500_: the TM made it to be viewable here
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  • [18:08:12] <woglinde_> jo djlewis
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  • [18:13:37] <djlewis_> wazzup woglinde_
  • [18:14:04] <mru> friday is drawing near...
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  • [18:15:03] <djlewis_> yep yep yep, uh huh, uh huh, yep yep yep
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  • [18:15:58] <djlewis_> spoken in the spirit od a sesame street character whose name I dont recall.
  • [18:16:06] <djlewis_> s/od/of
  • [18:16:31] <emeb> I believe I remember those muppet sketches.
  • [18:16:38] <emeb> something with a telephone....
  • [18:17:02] * mru never watched them
  • [18:17:32] <djlewis_> his only other words were nope nope nope ununh ununh, nope nope nope . . .
  • [18:18:46] <emeb> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_trSIBCgF0
  • [18:18:53] <isbric> could somone tell me whats going on with my beagleboard, i updated the ubuntu 10.04 kernel a week ago and i had some problem booting, then it just started to boot normally again with no reason
  • [18:19:18] <isbric> now im getting this again: Verifying Checksum ... Bad Data CRC
  • [18:19:24] <isbric> http://pastebin.com/34vgCLy9
  • [18:20:20] <woglinde_> hm you dont need dsp and sgx support
  • [18:20:56] <woglinde_> try a diffrent loadadress
  • [18:21:06] <woglinde_> 80008000 is maybee to low
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  • [18:21:40] <mmarker> Woglide: doesn't the error imply maybe a crap media the kernel image is on?
  • [18:21:57] <woglinde_> mmarker could ne too
  • [18:22:01] <mru> probably
  • [18:22:02] <woglinde_> ups be
  • [18:22:23] <mru> Legacy Image at 80000000, hmm...
  • [18:22:46] * woglinde_ personal wouldnt run stock ubuntu kernel on beagle
  • [18:22:47] <mru> that's going to clash with the unpacked kernel at 80008000
  • [18:23:08] * mru wouldn't run stock ubuntu, full stop
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  • [18:25:11] <woglinde_> hm seems isbric needed only attention not a solution
  • [18:25:20] <isbric> im not sure im understanding the problem.
  • [18:25:40] <woglinde_> try to load the kernel at 80000000
  • [18:25:48] <isbric> how would i do that?
  • [18:25:54] <woglinde_> *sigh*
  • [18:25:56] <mru> woglinde_: he's doing that
  • [18:26:02] <mru> and that's the problem
  • [18:26:10] <woglinde_> hm?
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  • [18:26:16] <woglinde_> he is loading at 80008000
  • [18:26:26] <mru> ## Booting kernel from Legacy Image at 80000000
  • [18:26:50] <mru> the uimage payload is then copied to 80008000
  • [18:27:00] <mru> where it overwrites the original
  • [18:27:06] <mru> causing the error
  • [18:27:18] <woglinde_> ah hm
  • [18:27:20] <woglinde_> sorry
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  • [18:27:36] <woglinde_> 80008000 is where the kernel really starts
  • [18:27:36] <mru> the script needs to be changed to load the uimage to a high address
  • [18:27:41] <mru> like 80200000
  • [18:28:03] <woglinde_> yes
  • [18:28:37] <mru> actually, I'm not quite sure where the "Load Address" comes from
  • [18:28:42] <woglinde_> hm he is loading an initrd too
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  • [18:28:52] <woglinde_> maybee thats the problem too
  • [18:28:52] <mru> crazy
  • [18:29:03] <woglinde_> the initrd maybee overwrite the end of kernel
  • [18:29:14] <isbric> can i try to load the image to some other adress?
  • [18:29:23] <woglinde_> yes
  • [18:29:27] <woglinde_> fix the mmc-script
  • [18:29:40] <mmarker> But...randomly working again? Did anything knowingly change?
  • [18:31:34] <isbric> woglinde_: then id need to mount the mmc to some other box witch i dont have :/
  • [18:32:02] <woglinde_> hm yes
  • [18:32:08] <woglinde_> or a cardreader
  • [18:32:17] <woglinde_> cardreader is men best friend
  • [18:32:26] <mru> or type the commands manually for testing
  • [18:32:30] <djlewis_> emeb: gm, no that wasnt the character.
  • [18:32:59] <isbric> got a laptop with a cardreader but its running windows, when i loaded the image i had loads of hassle getting the cardreader working on a linux livecd.
  • [18:33:18] <mru> huh
  • [18:33:22] <isbric> mru: what command?
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  • [18:34:17] <isbric> i woudnt know what to look for if i downloaded the stuff from elinux wiki again.
  • [18:35:41] <woglinde_> here are some commands http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/BeagleNANDFlashing
  • [18:35:56] <woglinde_> help on the u-boot console helps too
  • [18:36:08] <woglinde_> mmcinit
  • [18:36:23] <woglinde_> fatload mmc 0 0x80300000 uImage
  • [18:36:24] <mru> isn't that "mmc init" now?
  • [18:36:28] <woglinde_> yes
  • [18:36:47] <woglinde_> didnt find the proper site that fast
  • [18:36:57] <mru> uboot is a bit funny treating all numbers as hex too
  • [18:37:05] <mru> took me a few moments to realise
  • [18:44:30] <isbric> giving manual commands whas harder then i thought
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  • [18:45:14] <isbric> could i get nand to load the image to another adress?
  • [18:45:25] <mru> ignore nand
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  • [18:46:46] <woglinde_> yeah sorry
  • [18:47:00] <woglinde_> I didnt metioned you dont need the nand commands
  • [18:47:06] <woglinde_> they are mostly for flashing
  • [18:47:12] <woglinde_> internal mem
  • [18:47:27] <isbric> yeah i figured but it got me thinking i might use it?
  • [18:48:53] <isbric> hm, well im thying the bootm 0x80300000 but i get the same result.
  • [18:49:19] <isbric> it even says the same old adresses: Load Address: 80008000
  • [18:49:33] <mru> of course it does
  • [18:49:48] <mru> that's how the image was built
  • [18:49:53] <mru> and is probably fine
  • [18:50:03] <ds2> try using a naked image instead ;)
  • [18:50:33] <isbric> so what does this manual testing tell us?
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  • [18:54:45] <harvy> hi guys any word on uk beagleboard-xm shipping?
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  • [19:08:41] <Sog> I am building rowboat-eclair-dsp...
  • [19:12:09] <isbric> mru: so whats next? is the mmc card bad?
  • [19:13:08] <Sog> Just waiting the building steps :P
  • [19:13:36] <Sog> I use rowboat-eclair-dsp version.
  • [19:13:53] <Sog> I am waiting the ti-dsp folder build ok...
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  • [19:20:12] * djlewis_ struggles with getting compuserve dialup working for a client :(
  • [19:24:09] <mru> dialup? that really is a 3rd-world country...
  • [19:26:14] <djlewis_> yep. :(
  • [19:26:37] <mmarker> Where the he'll is this? Texas?
  • [19:27:36] <djlewis_> a unique fellow with a old compaq celeron running winme ,, dbl argh!!
  • [19:28:50] <mmarker> oh wow! Call the Smithsonian.
  • [19:31:08] <ds2> compuserve?
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  • [19:32:01] <djlewis_> not so bad, its a 800 Mhz celeron
  • [19:32:50] <djlewis_> ds2: yes, we too looked at one another when we saw that. Seems when AOL shut down compuserve there was a sibling compuserve2000 company they moved existing clients to.
  • [19:33:03] <ds2> wow
  • [19:33:25] <ds2> 800Mhz isn't that old... wasn't the original eeePC a 800MHz celery?
  • [19:33:56] <djlewis_> isnt this the BB competetor ;)
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  • [19:36:02] <ds2> he he he
  • [19:36:21] <isbric> sorry if im slow but what shuld i do about my problem?
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  • [19:36:37] <ds2> it is certainly a superior machine... what beagle board can keep you warm in the upcoming cold dark winter? :D
  • [19:37:14] <GNUtoo|laptop> hi,is there a howto to get xrandr -o 1 work or something that achieve the same goal(like echo 1 > /sys/class/graphics/fb2/rotate)
  • [19:39:32] <djlewis_> isbric: did you try last suggestion?
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  • [19:41:16] <isbric> yeah i tryed doing : mmc init, fatload mmc1 0 0x80300000 uImage, bootm 0x80300000
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  • [19:42:25] <djlewis_> isbric: iirc the last suggestions were to try another boot image
  • [19:42:58] <isbric> how would i do that without a propper way to load a new image to the mmc?
  • [19:43:07] <Sog> Hi, all I got home/sog/rowboat-android-eclair/external/ti-dsp/dvsdk_3_01_00_10/codec_engine_2_25_05_16/cetools/packages/ti/sdo/linuxutils/cmem: No such file or directory. Stop.
  • [19:43:58] <Sog> cmem
  • [19:46:30] <djlewis_> isbric: most of us have a card reader and a pc.
  • [19:47:06] <mru> the rest have butterflies
  • [19:47:39] <djlewis_> oooh, butterflies.... lovely butterflies...
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  • [19:48:05] <isbric> hmm, guess ill loos everything on the scard anyway.
  • [19:48:24] <djlewis_> and spare SD cards
  • [19:50:42] <foobaz_> What do you guys use in angstrom for rendering on the beagleboard? OpenGL ES? Is that the preferred way?
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  • [19:53:22] <prpplague> foobaz_: i use this - http://www.slashfood.com/2006/01/13/how-to-render-lard/
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  • [19:56:05] <foobaz_> heh
  • [19:56:50] <Crofton> koen, you bumped the perl version?
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  • [21:35:44] <spin76> Hello beagleboard abusers.
  • [21:36:12] <djlewis_> hmmm
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  • [21:37:25] <spin76> Just out of curiosity, what are you guys using for a terminal emulator on a windows 7 machine?
  • [21:37:46] <djlewis_> not too many folk here use windoze
  • [21:38:04] <mru> at least not once we're finished with them
  • [21:39:48] <djlewis_> I like to open mine when the temps are nice :)
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  • [21:42:52] <dm8tbr> djlewis_: I live in Finland, you rarely want to open windows here. Go figure that Linus is from here ;)
  • [21:42:53] <spin76> djlewis_: what if I were to run a terminal emulator through cygwin/
  • [21:43:41] <spin76> unfortunately, i'm on a windows machine w/o a linux distro installed. i figured that the tools would be there ...
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  • [21:50:56] <dm8tbr> spin76: putty could work
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  • [21:58:18] <koen> Crofton: yes, that has some fallout that needs fixing, but that's what's -next is for :)
  • [21:59:26] <Crofton> does next support 2010?
  • [21:59:40] * ghoti_ is now known as ghoti
  • [21:59:50] <koen> -next is 2010
  • [22:00:06] <Crofton> where is that hostsed?
  • [22:00:09] * koen had one cosmo too many tonight
  • [22:00:14] <Crofton> heh
  • [22:01:05] <spin76> i'm having difficulty getting a return signal from the beagleboard (connected by serial). anyone willing to help?
  • [22:01:10] <koen> hosted as in git tree?
  • [22:01:16] <Crofton> yeah
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  • [22:03:02] <djlewis_> spin76: which board? the BBSRM's have a excellent explanation and diagnosis steps
  • [22:05:21] <spin76> I've got the C4 rev
  • [22:05:38] <koen> Crofton: you can use 2010 in .dev if you don't need to upload packages
  • [22:05:55] <koen> Crofton: -next-rebase only has one patch for feed paths
  • [22:06:04] <Crofton> ok
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  • [22:06:13] <Crofton> will you be around in the am?
  • [22:06:15] <Crofton> my am
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  • [22:06:34] <spin76> I've been following the beginner's wiki. I'm on step 1: initiating contact. On my serial device, there are Rx and Tx lights. When I send commands to the board, the Tx command turns on, but no Rx, therefore, nothing happens.
  • [22:06:35] <koen> I'll be awake in ~8 hours
  • [22:06:40] <Crofton> ok
  • [22:06:56] <Crofton> I am having some stupid issues I will look at in my am
  • [22:07:17] <Crofton> gn
  • [22:07:26] <koen> I think we need to bump DISTRO_PR for 2010
  • [22:07:36] <djlewis_> spin76: i'm kinda tied up but you can go to beagleboard.org and look at both the BBSRM and beagleboardbeginners links. on the last one have a look at serial under contents.
  • [22:08:06] <Crofton> I was doing a clean build
  • [22:08:08] <djlewis_> 3. serial connection http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardBeginners
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  • [22:08:55] <spin76> duly noted. i just might be back later then.
  • [22:09:54] <djlewis_> ok
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  • [22:26:28] <mmarker> Finally, got a MAC address based on the die id for the xM onboard ethernet.
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  • [22:32:02] <djlewis_> mmarker: makes progress :)
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  • [22:33:46] <mmarker> And it's posted to the beagleboard ML
  • [22:33:55] <mmarker> But it WORKSFORME
  • [22:33:55] <harsh> hmm
  • [22:34:05] <mmarker> now a constant MAC addy, so IPv6 is happy
  • [22:34:24] <mmarker> and I somehow destroyed my GIT tree with a rebase.
  • [22:34:32] <mmarker> time to rebuild it :\
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