• [00:02:30] <DanaG> ARGH, and that 0xdroid leaves me lost... it's nearly as different from ordinary Linux as Apple's stuff is from Linux.
  • [00:02:40] <DanaG> For example, no modinfo, no modprobe, no asix.
  • [00:02:45] <DanaG> So I can't use networking!
  • [00:05:20] <DanaG> dAMNIT, Adobe!
  • [00:06:07] <DanaG> Okay, then... how would I go about using a beagle as a thin-client, instead?
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  • [00:27:28] <DanaG> ARGH
  • [00:27:38] <DanaG> "ltsp-client cannot be installed on a regular machine"
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  • [03:11:17] <ddd_> where can I find a TI tps65930 device driver.
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  • [04:49:47] <ds2> Hmm
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  • [05:18:04] <hitlin37> hi all
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  • [05:18:34] <jkridner> hi hitlin37
  • [05:18:34] <hitlin37> i'm getting this error:/bin/ld:cannot find -lavutil
  • [05:18:48] <jkridner> doing what?
  • [05:19:00] <hitlin37> i installed libavutil-dev n ffmpeg-dev
  • [05:19:04] <rmb> hu,,, is there anyone here from brazil? i'd like to talk about how to buy a beagle board here...
  • [05:19:18] <hitlin37> it even shows up there at /usr/include
  • [05:19:47] <hitlin37> still i get this,where am i missing
  • [05:20:39] <hitlin37> but d same make file works gud on host pc
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  • [05:20:44] <jkridner> can you use pastebin.com to show your build log?
  • [05:21:03] <hitlin37> ok,but let me try cross compile
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  • [05:29:18] <hitlin37> main.o -pthread -lm -lavutil -lavcodec /usr/lib/gcc/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/4.3.3/../../../../arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/bin/ld: cannot find -lavutil collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
  • [05:32:27] <hitlin37> any package im missing?
  • [05:32:29] <ds2> do you have libavutil.so or libavutil.a somewhere?
  • [05:32:41] <hitlin37> yes
  • [05:32:54] <ds2> where are they?
  • [05:33:06] <ds2> are they in the standard library search path? i.e. /usr/lib
  • [05:33:42] <hitlin37> yes
  • [05:33:46] <hitlin37> .so
  • [05:34:20] <ds2> Okay, can you please do 'file /usr/lib/libavutil.so'
  • [05:36:37] <hitlin37> ?
  • [05:36:39] <hitlin37> ok
  • [05:37:02] <hitlin37> broken symbolic link to 'libavutil.so.50.23.0
  • [05:37:34] <ds2> okay
  • [05:37:39] <ds2> I think you just explained why
  • [05:37:43] <ds2> next =)
  • [05:38:37] <jkridner> since you are asking, ds2, :)
  • [05:38:58] <jkridner> I'm still clueless about the way to invoke initramfs outside of compiling it into the kernel.
  • [05:39:12] <jkridner> I think my kernel is built with initramfs support, but I'm not sure.
  • [05:39:58] <jkridner> but, I am sure I can't get it to do anything useful with my initramfs.cpio.gz.u-boot file.
  • [05:40:54] <ds2> jkridner: short answer is you can't. you can only do initrd outside of a recompile
  • [05:41:21] <jkridner1> but, so many docs try to say that you can... but then really don't answer how.
  • [05:41:32] <jkridner1> lots of Gumstix docs, for example.
  • [05:41:44] <ds2> initramfs is defined as - on boottime, it looks at 2 symbols...assumes that is the compressed CPIO archive. decompresses and uses that to populate a tmpfs
  • [05:41:53] <ds2> those people are really using an initrd
  • [05:41:54] <jkridner1> they claim to 'bootm <kernel> <initramfs>'
  • [05:42:14] <ds2> right, what that does is pass address of a cpio archive loaded at a certain address by u-boot
  • [05:42:16] <jkridner1> tmpfs or ramfs?
  • [05:42:25] <ds2> tmpfs for a true initramfs
  • [05:42:30] <jkridner1> an initrd with a cpio image?
  • [05:42:33] <ds2> ramfs for an initrd
  • [05:42:45] <ds2> yes, initrd from cpio image is what they are really talking about
  • [05:42:58] <ds2> redhat's installer does something like that on x86
  • [05:43:44] <jkridner1> well, if it eliminates the hard-coded image size, it seems good, but I'm not sure that ramfs does that.
  • [05:43:46] <ds2> I am pretty sure of this as I went through all of this last week :(
  • [05:44:27] <ds2> IIRC, initrd is still subject to the image size thing as it gets extracted to ram0 instead
  • [05:44:41] <jkridner1> well, with my cpio image, how can I use that as an initrd image? my kernel seems to complain that it isn't one of the supported formats (ext2, ext3, etc.)
  • [05:44:49] <ds2> gzip it
  • [05:45:04] <ds2> and make sure you build the cpio with '-H newc' otherwise, the kernel won't like it
  • [05:45:05] <jkridner1> with or without mkimage?
  • [05:45:28] <ds2> mkimage don't matter... uboot should just copy your file verbatim into some address
  • [05:45:34] <ds2> that address is passed to the kernel
  • [05:46:10] <jkridner1> k, any idea why Rini put that mkimage code in OE then?
  • [05:46:27] <jkridner1> and why gumstix wiki docs talk about it?
  • [05:46:36] <ds2> I wish (but don't have time to do it) Linux had something like the mdputimage thingie in BSD
  • [05:46:46] <ds2> can you point me to the gumstix wiki doc you are referring to?
  • [05:47:26] <ds2> I am not following the top of OE (not dealing with Angstrom atm)
  • [05:48:36] <jkridner1> ds2: http://docwiki.gumstix.org/index.php/Root_filesystems#initramfs_Root_.28CF.2FMMC.29
  • [05:49:20] <ds2> let me read it
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  • [05:54:08] <ds2> ah I see
  • [05:54:26] <ds2> the mkimage is give a header so u-boot can sanity check it
  • [05:55:25] <ds2> you don't truely need it but you will need to do it slightly differently... this is analogous to being able to build kernels w/o mkimage aka the 'naked' option but in the case of the kernel, it fails to pass the right TAGs and such but for a RD, it doesn't matter too much
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  • [06:12:07] <ds2> :q!
  • [06:12:09] <ds2> oops
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  • [06:49:54] <DanaG> ARGH.
  • [06:50:02] <DanaG> Can't seem to boot that rootfs....
  • [06:50:29] <DanaG> http://pastebin.com/1jMemqEu
  • [06:53:15] <DanaG> It's trying to nfs mount.... argh.
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  • [07:25:39] <ddd_> how much workload needed if migrating the JM decoder to CodecEngine? in the beginning, without any concerns about DSP side, only GPP side, thank you.
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  • [07:43:25] <DanaG> argh, I wish Adobe would make a damned ARM Flash. And I wish the person who coded that stupid thing in Flash, hadn't done so.
  • [07:52:21] <kblin> hehe
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  • [08:06:16] <jl___> but I don't know the u-boot param
  • [08:06:28] <jl___> I want to use DVI-out in kernel 6.32
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  • [08:06:38] <jl___> Is it video=omapfb:mode:720p60?
  • [08:06:49] <jl___> thank you
  • [08:09:07] <jl___> is it right:setenv bootargs console=ttyS2,115200n8 ubi.mtd=4 root=ubi0:rootfs rootfstype=ubifs video=omapfb:mode:720p60 init=/init rw rootwait
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  • [08:13:02] <DanaG> hmm
  • [08:13:19] <DanaG> I think there's a "dvimode" u-boot var.
  • [08:13:22] <jl___> who could gave me some suggestions? thank you!
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  • [08:13:54] <jl___> DanaG: thank you, I will config it
  • [08:15:42] <DanaG> try "printenv" in u-boot.
  • [08:15:47] <jl___> DanaG: I use dss in my kernel
  • [08:17:23] <jl___> DanaG: I paste it in: http://pastebin.com/gt3HveFd
  • [08:17:28] <jl___> DanaG: thank you
  • [08:18:09] <DanaG> 7inch_lcd? that's new.
  • [08:18:37] <jl___> DanaG: yes 7inch_lcd
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  • [10:19:47] <jl___> I
  • [10:19:48] <jl___> hi
  • [10:20:31] <jl___> I am using gstream, I want to hnow to create /dev/video1, thank you
  • [10:25:58] <jl___> I am using gstreamer, I want to hnow to create /dev/video1, any suggestion is welcome
  • [10:26:41] <jl___> I want to display the video
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  • [10:35:56] <woglinde> jl___ read stuff here https://gforge.ti.com/gf/project/gstreamer_ti/wiki/
  • [10:36:11] <woglinde> jl___ or are you talking about camera?
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  • [10:39:44] <woglinde> hm wiki is moved http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/DMAI_GStreamer_Plug-In
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  • [10:50:25] <jl___> woglinde: thank you, I use gst-launch tool to test, but it always say "no such file /dev/video1"
  • [10:52:24] <jl___> woglinde: gst-launch -v filesrc location=/opt/dvsdk/omap3530/data/videos/davincieffect_ntsc_1.264 ! TIViddec2 codecName=h264dec engineName=codecServer ! TIDmaiVideoSink videoStd=VGA videoOutput=LCD sync=false
  • [10:53:58] <jl___> woglinde: @1,228,454us: [+7 T:0x415cb490] ti.sdo.dmai - [Display] Cannot open /dev/video1
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  • [10:58:17] <koen> use omapdmaifbsink
  • [10:58:35] <woglinde> hi koen
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  • [11:01:48] <jl___> koen: WARNING: erroneous pipeline: no element "omapdmaifbsink"
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  • [11:04:10] <jl___> koen:Couldn't use TIViddec2 ? thank you
  • [11:05:16] <jl___> koen: I only use NFS and test in shell, no any x-windows.
  • [11:06:33] <jl___> koen: Whether need I install one kind of GUI platforms firstly?
  • [11:06:54] <jl___> koen: thank you
  • [11:07:47] <jl___> koen: I only want to run TI gstreamers's demos
  • [11:08:46] <jl___> Example GStreamer Pipelines:
  • [11:08:49] <jl___> http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php?title=Example_GStreamer_Pipelines#Environment_Requirements_6
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  • [12:07:25] <madjid> hi
  • [12:08:05] <madjid> who run the voip on the beagleboard
  • [12:08:26] <madjid> could you please guide me to the steps
  • [12:09:51] <woglinde> what voip?
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  • [12:10:48] <madjid> Voice over IP i mean
  • [12:11:00] <madjid> thanks for reply
  • [12:11:06] <woglinde> install a sip client
  • [12:11:14] <woglinde> and connect a microphone
  • [12:11:44] <madjid> it is under WinCE
  • [12:11:48] <madjid> or Linux
  • [12:12:14] <madjid> is it required to set the ip
  • [12:12:26] <woglinde> I dont know what system your have
  • [12:12:48] <madjid> and need other special software on operating system
  • [12:12:55] <woglinde> oe has ekiga and linphone
  • [12:13:03] <woglinde> oe == openembedded
  • [12:13:12] <madjid> beagle board omap3530
  • [12:13:25] <woglinde> I know which processor a beagle has
  • [12:13:54] <madjid> ok
  • [12:14:12] <madjid> wince 6 R3
  • [12:14:28] <woglinde> hm oh
  • [12:14:39] <woglinde> nearly all users here have linux
  • [12:14:48] <madjid> okay
  • [12:14:51] <woglinde> and I dont know a voip client for ce
  • [12:14:57] <madjid> i can switch to linux too
  • [12:15:07] <woglinde> than do it
  • [12:15:16] <woglinde> and install egkia or linphone
  • [12:15:22] <madjid> whicjh kernel i must load
  • [12:15:27] <woglinde> ekiga
  • [12:15:32] <woglinde> depends
  • [12:15:42] <woglinde> usb powered or external?
  • [12:15:57] <madjid> usb power
  • [12:16:01] <woglinde> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/narcissus/
  • [12:16:03] <woglinde> hm
  • [12:16:05] <woglinde> oh
  • [12:16:19] <woglinde> than you need a diffrent kernel to run version 2.6.32
  • [12:16:28] <madjid> and use the RG45 for distribution to other station
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  • [12:17:44] <woglinde> jo ekiga is in the angstrom packages
  • [12:17:48] <woglinde> so install console image
  • [12:17:52] <madjid> ok
  • [12:17:53] <woglinde> and than opkg install egika
  • [12:18:11] <woglinde> hm oh
  • [12:18:15] <woglinde> better use an x11 image
  • [12:18:22] <woglinde> egkia is graphical
  • [12:19:37] <madjid> i want to made intercom with one base station and some client
  • [12:20:06] <woglinde> sure
  • [12:20:08] <madjid> and some wireless client in the intercome system
  • [12:20:22] <woglinde> use an usb wifi adapter
  • [12:20:38] <woglinde> but I am not familiar with sip setups
  • [12:20:47] <woglinde> only know some clients
  • [12:21:27] <madjid> what do u think about blue tooth or xBee module
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  • [12:21:46] <woglinde> sure why not
  • [12:22:15] <madjid> ok
  • [12:22:46] <madjid> where is the egkia and sip links
  • [12:23:01] <woglinde> as I said
  • [12:23:10] <woglinde> build an x11 image with narcissus
  • [12:23:22] <woglinde> install it to sd card
  • [12:24:15] <woglinde> exchange the kernel/uImage with this one http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/uImage-2.6.32-r87+gitra6bad4464f985fdd3bed72e1b82dcbfc004d7869-beagleboard.multi-config-cpuidle-gether.bin
  • [12:24:27] <woglinde> boot up
  • [12:24:50] <woglinde> install egika with opkg update opkg install egika
  • [12:24:58] <woglinde> after you set up an internet connection
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  • [12:30:11] <madjid> really thanks
  • [12:30:25] <madjid> my email is madjidashtar@gmail.com
  • [12:31:00] <woglinde> sorry no email
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  • [12:31:09] <madjid> i will contact with you in the case of problem
  • [12:31:14] <woglinde> no
  • [12:31:17] <woglinde> aks here
  • [12:31:19] <madjid> okay
  • [12:31:26] <madjid> i will find you here
  • [12:31:43] <madjid> really thanks
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  • [12:32:08] <lauwe> I am trying to boot from nfs using usb-gadget-ethernet, but when my kernel boots I don't get a /dev/usb0 on my host
  • [12:32:28] <woglinde> lauwe try http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/uImage-2.6.32-r87+gitra6bad4464f985fdd3bed72e1b82dcbfc004d7869-beagleboard.multi-config-cpuidle-gether.bin
  • [12:33:41] <prak> I'm having trouble with remote debugging on BB
  • [12:33:53] <woglinde> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/
  • [12:34:06] <woglinde> ups here are some tips for usb stuff too
  • [12:34:07] <woglinde> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/
  • [12:34:24] <prak> i get "malformed response to offset query,timeout"
  • [12:34:25] <woglinde> hm koen should update to mention the g_ether build in kernel
  • [12:34:52] <woglinde> prak whats your debugging technic?
  • [12:35:48] <prak> am using rs232 (Null modem) ,gdbserver(BB) and gdb(on host)
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  • [12:36:17] <woglinde> prak gdb the kernel or userspace?
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  • [12:36:29] <prak> userspace
  • [12:36:40] <woglinde> hm maybee the console is running?
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  • [12:36:53] <lauwe> woglinde: that uImage doesn't seem to boot, doesn't get beyond "uncompressing linux....."
  • [12:37:05] <prak> yes minicom@115200
  • [12:37:12] <woglinde> lauwe update MLO and u-boot
  • [12:37:18] <woglinde> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/
  • [12:37:22] <lauwe> did that just now
  • [12:38:21] <lauwe> I have X-loader 1.4.4ss and u-boot 2010.06-00289-gb417260
  • [12:38:21] <madjid> bye for now
  • [12:38:41] <woglinde> lauwe that should work
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  • [12:39:05] <prak> is there any setting I need to check?
  • [12:39:31] <woglinde> prak you can either debug via rs232 or run the console
  • [12:39:33] <woglinde> not both
  • [12:39:57] <woglinde> try to open a console via usb
  • [12:40:04] <woglinde> or us usb-serial for gdb
  • [12:40:40] <woglinde> or use usbnet and disable serial console and use it for gdb
  • [12:40:43] <woglinde> there are some ways
  • [12:40:49] <woglinde> or use usbnet and gdb via net
  • [12:40:54] <woglinde> *g*
  • [12:41:38] <prak> "run the console" ....didn't get u
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  • [12:41:59] <woglinde> *sigh*
  • [12:42:11] <woglinde> best and fastes way for you know is
  • [12:42:19] <woglinde> setup usbnet with g_ether
  • [12:42:23] <woglinde> and use gdb via net
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  • [12:43:05] <prak> thanks....will look into it..
  • [12:43:16] <ddd_> there are always multiple definition errors when building codec engine, anyone can help? thanks, http://pastebin.com/mSBndWnV
  • [12:44:32] <woglinde> ddd hm never saw this yet
  • [12:44:38] <woglinde> ddd what toolchain are you using?
  • [12:45:05] <ddd_> 2008q1
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  • [14:04:27] <_av500_> ddd_: ifunctions.h
  • [14:04:44] <woglinde> hi av500
  • [14:04:53] <_av500_> at the top it sometimes defines static and inline to nothing
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  • [14:05:03] <_av500_> woglinde: hi
  • [14:05:24] <woglinde> hm
  • [14:05:27] <woglinde> intressting
  • [14:05:32] <woglinde> poor codec engine
  • [14:05:59] <_av500_> nothing to do with ce
  • [14:06:09] <_av500_> its the jm reference code
  • [14:08:29] <woglinde> jm?
  • [14:08:41] <_av500_> h264 refercne decoder
  • [14:08:49] <ddd_> thank y, av500, it is jm,
  • [14:08:58] <_av500_> jm is joint madness or so
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  • [14:31:23] <ddd_> av500, there are other multiple definitions like http://pastebin.com/qnbFBaH4
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  • [14:33:48] <ahaczewski> hi
  • [14:34:22] <ahaczewski> which kernel (in terms of git repo URL) should I use for beagleboard rev C4 development?
  • [14:34:47] <woglinde> why git?
  • [14:35:11] <ahaczewski> might be tarball
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  • [14:36:27] <ahaczewski> but I find it really confusing when I already stumbled on something like 10 repos that are supposed to be dedicated for beagleboard
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  • [14:37:08] <woglinde> use openembedded and angstroem and you dont need to worry
  • [14:37:29] <woglinde> or will you do kernel development?
  • [14:37:35] <ahaczewski> do they fully support svideo and dvi output?
  • [14:38:05] <ahaczewski> no kernel development planned for now
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  • [14:38:30] <ahaczewski> just want all the features on board available
  • [14:40:13] <ahaczewski> do oe or angstrom allow me to build kernel myself (as I want bluetooth support with raw HID for using PS3 controller to work with my beagle)?
  • [14:40:24] <woglinde> yes, yes and yes
  • [14:40:51] <_koen_> raw hid should already be turned on
  • [14:40:59] * _koen_ used his ps3 controller with beagle already
  • [14:41:10] <ahaczewski> :)
  • [14:42:02] <ahaczewski> _koen_: wirelessly or usb?
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  • [14:45:21] <_koen_> usb to pair, then pt
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  • [15:04:59] <fauxreigner> hey guys
  • [15:05:07] <woglinde> yes?
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  • [15:05:16] <fauxreigner> that was my hello world
  • [15:06:17] <woglinde> intressting
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  • [15:16:13] <_koen_> mru: I'm getting better and better at this benchmarketing stuff :)
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  • [15:17:36] <djlewis> koen: you got a better permanent marker ;)
  • [15:18:07] <_koen_> I just run all the benchmarks on an xM
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  • [15:19:16] <_koen_> and say that things like linpack and lmbench don't say a lot about realworld performance
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  • [15:56:21] <_av500_> koen: back?
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  • [15:58:03] <koen> _av500_: yes
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  • [16:18:03] <Crofton> koen, your NAK looks like it was written by someone else :)
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  • [16:27:49] <BradGriffis> Can anyone suggest where I should look to find what changes were necessary to support the new Micron memory on BeagleBoard-XM?
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  • [16:30:53] <BradGriffis> Specifically I was hoping someone might tell me which git tree to look at and hopefully a specific file.
  • [16:32:16] * Crofton kicks the XM guys :)
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  • [16:32:29] <hrw> check ubuntu maverick kernel
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  • [16:32:38] <hrw> or openembedded
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  • [16:33:22] <hrw> anyway - how many xM boards were sold?
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  • [16:58:15] <bkero> hrw: XMs aren't for sale yet
  • [16:58:21] <bkero> (to my knowledge) http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail&name=296-25798-ND
  • [16:59:32] <hrw> anyway it looks like many projects works on getting them working ;d
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  • [17:09:59] <Fib> Hi, I recently got a beagle C4 and I am having trouble getting it working.
  • [17:10:24] <Fib> I get an orange screen on HDMI but no serial and no audio tone - I haven't got a cable to test svideo
  • [17:10:50] <hrw> tried to connect serial cable in reverse?
  • [17:10:52] <Fib> I made the serial cable myself following the pinouts online and tested it as loopback as suggested in the hardware manual
  • [17:13:32] <Fib> If you mean reversing the IDC10 side, I have tried that with no luck
  • [17:13:50] <koen> there is no audio tone in uboot
  • [17:14:02] <hrw> but there is a serial output
  • [17:14:13] <hrw> koen: aren't you on vacations?
  • [17:14:36] <Fib> I've checked my serial settings and tried powering with dc jack or usb otg; with and without the sd card
  • [17:15:07] <Fib> This is the cable pinout I am using: http://www.pccables.com/07120.htm
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  • [17:16:03] <Fib> If I short pins 2&3 as suggested in the hw manual, I get my typing echoed back at me as expected
  • [17:16:03] <koen> hrw: returned yesterday night
  • [17:16:21] <koen> only 4 days of vacation
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  • [17:16:36] <hrw> ah... suxx but 4 days are better then nothing
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  • [17:26:25] <Fib> Ah! I got it to work by swapping TX and RX lines
  • [17:26:40] <hrw> ;d
  • [17:28:21] <Fib> I don't understand why that works though - if I got the wiring wrong the tx and rx should have ended up on, er... 3 and 4 or 7 and 8?
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  • [17:29:01] <topfs2> I only have rx,tx and gnd on my cable :)
  • [17:29:33] <hrw> I do not check my serial cables are they 3 wire or more as long as they work with my boards
  • [17:29:50] <Fib> Whatever, I am happy, it works :)
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  • [17:34:03] <ddd_> where is the problem? the function "xdc_iargToPtr " is even not found in the files http://pastebin.com/qtSHmBpE
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  • [17:49:49] <lag> Do any of you guys use chroots?
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  • [17:54:12] <hrw> I use amd64 and i386 chroots to build compilers
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  • [18:00:27] <zumbi> hrw: you do not need chroots for such thing :P
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  • [18:03:58] <hrw> zumbi: I do not want to have *-armel-cross in main system
  • [18:04:08] <zumbi> :)
  • [18:04:09] <hrw> zumbi: I use main system to bootstrap compilers
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  • [18:21:05] <arundp> hi everyone, we are going to put proposal for buying beagleboard in our college. which one should we prefer "rev C4" or "XM"?. Since XM is latest is that stable?. Since it is for college, any performance problems will be a problem for us. :)
  • [18:21:53] <hrw> xM would be better but impossible to buy iirc
  • [18:22:06] <dm8tbr> it's just a proposal
  • [18:22:23] <dm8tbr> until they decide the XM followup will be available for purchase!
  • [18:22:51] <koen> get a C4 and use the money you have left to buy DVI screens, cables, etc
  • [18:26:35] <kblin> define "performance"
  • [18:26:57] <koen> some guys with wigs and spandex
  • [18:26:58] <kblin> but of course what koen said
  • [18:26:59] <koen> and some guitars
  • [18:27:29] <kblin> about the beagle to buy, I'd trust him less on non-beagle things ;)
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  • [18:30:31] <arundp> thanks friends.:-D
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  • [18:32:41] <torez> hmm.....I have a beagle board XM using the HDMI--to--DVI interface and see the floating "Input signal out of range" box across my screen. Any ideas? So the obvious looking at the settings of the monitor and adjusting them does not seem to work...wondering if those buttons apply to vga sources and not DVI
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  • [18:59:06] <Mrkva> hi
  • [19:01:47] <Mrkva> what should I use as a video card driver for X.org for OMAP3530? I bet I can use fbdev, but that won't use the hardware acceleration, right?
  • [19:02:43] <rcn-ee> omapfb it's still fake, but has some neon bits in it.. ;)
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  • [19:04:07] <Mrkva> rcn-ee: so still no support for sgx?
  • [19:05:49] <rcn-ee> well there's 'support' for the 3D side of sgx, but the 2D kinda sucks...
  • [19:05:55] <Mrkva> *no open-source support for sgx
  • [19:07:00] <rcn-ee> Mrkva, there probally will never be..
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  • [19:08:10] <Mrkva> rcn-ee: hmm, thats quite sad... well, thanks anywa
  • [19:08:11] <Mrkva> y
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  • [19:09:37] <rcn-ee> Mrkva, we are just luckly to be in a better shape then the Intel Psoube guys..
  • [19:10:01] <hrw> indeed
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  • [19:12:03] <Mrkva> Psoube is what? sorry, I'm quite new to this sector of hardware
  • [19:12:11] <_av500_> pouslbo
  • [19:12:12] <hrw> Poulsbo - GMA 500
  • [19:12:32] <hrw> worst mistake of Intel in last few years
  • [19:12:41] <Mrkva> ah, yeah, this thing
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  • [19:12:51] <_av500_> come on, there are 3 closed src drivers to chose from :)
  • [19:12:57] <rcn-ee> wait, they have the upgrade poulsbo coming out too. ;)
  • [19:13:12] <Mrkva> the fact that intel cannot ship drivers with its own GPU :)
  • [19:13:34] <rcn-ee> own = 'own licensed from imgtek'
  • [19:13:58] <Mrkva> own='intel-labeled'
  • [19:14:08] <koen> rcn-ee: btw, the less-evil sdk is getting released this week
  • [19:14:17] <koen> rcn-ee: one people can wget
  • [19:14:42] <rcn-ee> sweet... !! can i extract it on ARM thou? ;) so does ti mind i have the modules on launchpad?
  • [19:15:06] <koen> haven't looked at the extractor
  • [19:15:17] <koen> prabu said it wasn't an IJ anymore
  • [19:15:29] <koen> I haven't looked at it since it's sgx stuff
  • [19:15:38] <koen> so "this week" might turn in to "this decade"
  • [19:15:54] <rcn-ee> Well we can work around that.. couple guys in linaro want it in their kernel too, so i'm helping out..
  • [19:16:28] <koen> don't they want sgx540?
  • [19:16:37] <koen> since linaro is omap4 and all
  • [19:17:11] <rcn-ee> well not sure on the omap4, but i do know they want the bits for the omap3..
  • [19:17:13] <_av500_> koen: btw, i just started #eagleboard :)
  • [19:17:43] <koen> heh
  • [19:18:19] <_av500_> i heard eagles eat pandas for breakfast
  • [19:18:35] <hrw> koen: I thought that linaro kernel guys were 'just armv7' ;D
  • [19:19:05] <rcn-ee> armv7 with the half neon (thanks marvell)
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  • [19:19:49] <hrw> half? none rather
  • [19:20:16] <koen> hrw: it has 'no', btw no 'en'
  • [19:20:27] <rcn-ee> well the 16 register one.. ;)
  • [19:20:31] <hrw> ah ;D
  • [19:20:34] <koen> they might typo'd 'neon' into 'none'
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  • [19:21:02] <koen> "we want to have that cool NONE coprocessor"
  • [19:21:10] <rcn-ee> that's nvidia. ;)
  • [19:21:33] <koen> nvidia is "we can emulate NEON on our GPU"
  • [19:22:36] <rcn-ee> i like reading the conversations between mru and nvidia's tech support... it's a good laugh..
  • [19:22:38] <_av500_> yeah
  • [19:23:14] <_av500_> rcn-ee: enter "idiot" in the nv forum search :)
  • [19:24:06] <rcn-ee> that would take down there server...
  • [19:24:15] <koen> url?
  • [19:24:21] <ynezz> :D
  • [19:24:34] <topfs2> is the SGX driver getting released? would that mean it could be distrobuted with a distro for beagle?
  • [19:24:43] <topfs2> I'm guessing angstrom has some special rights?
  • [19:25:00] <koen> n
  • [19:25:00] <koen> o
  • [19:25:08] <koen> I just read the license
  • [19:25:20] <koen> it said I could redistribute it
  • [19:25:35] <koen> and so far TI legal hasn't sent the black helicopters after me
  • [19:26:10] <bkero> source? :D
  • [19:26:44] <koen> I have source as well
  • [19:26:53] <topfs2> ah ok, to bad
  • [19:26:53] <koen> it's only a few $$$$$$$$ and an NDA
  • [19:26:59] <hrw> with huge nda attached
  • [19:27:13] <koen> the nda is actually pretty small
  • [19:27:15] <topfs2> I guess making an image with narcissus and tweak and redistrobute it dd'd is also out of the question? :)
  • [19:27:38] <Mrkva> by the way, whats average power usage of beagle?
  • [19:27:47] <koen> topfs2: no, that's what narcissus was created for
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  • [19:28:17] <topfs2> cool, so I could in theory build an image tweak and set it up to start xbmc and all that and redistrobute that img on xbmc.org if I wanted?
  • [19:28:29] <jacekowski> koen: sources of what?
  • [19:28:31] <hrw> Mrkva: 3W?
  • [19:28:33] <jacekowski> koen: SGX driver?
  • [19:28:34] <koen> dw/dt
  • [19:28:37] <koen> jacekowski: yes
  • [19:28:46] <koen> it's not made out of pixie dust
  • [19:28:56] <jacekowski> what about m-shield docs?
  • [19:29:11] <jacekowski> and well, if it says you can redistribute it
  • [19:29:14] <jacekowski> can you send it to me?
  • [19:29:24] <hrw> Mrkva: and 13W for xM
  • [19:29:33] <jacekowski> and how much did it cost?
  • [19:29:46] <hrw> at least thats values of power supply which I would use as minimal
  • [19:29:49] <Mrkva> hrw: thanks
  • [19:30:08] <topfs2> 13? is it that much more hungry :)
  • [19:30:19] <hrw> Mrkva: C4 needs 500mA to be powered and it does not power usb ports
  • [19:30:47] <hrw> xM has 4 usb ports (500mA for each) + usbethernet + own power needs = ~13W for full power
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  • [19:31:03] <Mrkva> thats not quite bad
  • [19:31:49] <topfs2> hrw, ooooh, didn't think of those extra ports
  • [19:31:49] <Mrkva> yeah, when my laptop dies, I will probably builld one based on bb :)
  • [19:32:04] <topfs2> if its 13 W with all peripherals its kindof neat
  • [19:32:52] <jacekowski> not really
  • [19:33:06] <jacekowski> you need a lot more to build a laptop
  • [19:33:16] <hrw> I have few 5V/3.5A power supplies waiting for use
  • [19:33:17] <jacekowski> and you will have about same power consumption as a laptop
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  • [19:34:31] <Mrkva> jacekowski: well, the biggest power-eater is usually a screen
  • [19:34:54] <hrw> not screen - backlight
  • [19:35:10] <Mrkva> yeah, backlight to be precise
  • [19:35:11] <Mrkva> :)
  • [19:35:26] <jacekowski> +hdd
  • [19:35:30] <jacekowski> + memory
  • [19:35:40] <jacekowski> + stuff
  • [19:35:45] <jacekowski> + more stuff
  • [19:35:47] <Mrkva> jacekowski: BB has memory on it
  • [19:35:54] <jacekowski> not a lot
  • [19:36:07] <Mrkva> jacekowski: yeah, but you can't easily extend it
  • [19:36:09] <hrw> jacekowski: bb based laptop does not have hdd but rather few usb flash stick or other memory cards
  • [19:36:09] <jacekowski> and it's not as fast as a memory used normally in laptops
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  • [19:37:44] <hrw> BB has speed limit on usb
  • [19:38:11] <hrw> try to grab 30-40MB/s on it...
  • [19:38:21] <Mrkva> oh, and by the way, anyone a gentoo guy? cause I can't cross compile libgcrypt :(
  • [19:39:47] <hrw> sheevaplug did 30MB/s with usb-sata drive. but I did not tested it with bb
  • [19:39:48] <Mrkva> hrw: well, there's a NAND memory that can easily contain a whole system... and mmc card for data
  • [19:39:51] <Mrkva> jobs done
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  • [19:40:22] <hrw> Mrkva: unless you want some more apps and do not fit in 256MB flash
  • [19:40:45] <Mrkva> hrw: yeah, thats a good point
  • [19:41:39] <hrw> ubuntu eats rootfs space like crazy - I have 1.7GB in use
  • [19:41:59] <koen> hrw: is that using hwcap already?
  • [19:42:23] <hrw> koen: did not checked. it is my first login to bb in last 2 months
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  • [20:06:30] <koen> ah, the news about eagle is out in the open
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  • [20:11:50] <Crofton> eagle?
  • [20:12:04] <Crofton> i saw something, but no clue what it is
  • [20:12:42] <koen> I always get confused
  • [20:13:03] <koen> I'm going to stay quiet to not spill any beans about kingfisher stuff
  • [20:14:24] <emeb> but what about cardinal, whippoorwill and condor? :)
  • [20:14:41] <koen> and quidditch
  • [20:15:00] <emeb> hey... that's not an animal...
  • [20:15:06] <mru> the official story is TI is a special ARM partner for eagle "cortex-a10"
  • [20:15:39] <mru> the truth is likely far more sinister
  • [20:16:22] * emeb wonders how sinister factors into the world of embedded computing
  • [20:17:08] <topfs2> very small and power effeciant robots will try and conquer the world
  • [20:17:25] <emeb> Robot Skeleton Army!!!
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  • [20:18:48] <DanaG> Say, anyone know how to put the initramfs in nand?
  • [20:19:16] <koen> initrd or initramfs?
  • [20:19:25] <koen> an initramfs is always in the kernel
  • [20:20:22] <DanaG> ah, then why is it called update-initramfs?
  • [20:20:43] <DanaG> er, wait, maybe it's easier to just keep it on SD...
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  • [20:39:54] <jconnolly> what do you guys use for screenshots of X on BB?
  • [20:40:03] <jconnolly> fbgrab gives me weird tansparencies
  • [20:40:21] <jconnolly> *transparencies
  • [20:41:00] <topfs2> the framebuffer have transperancy
  • [20:41:04] <topfs2> (by default)
  • [20:42:13] <topfs2> not all apps write to it properly
  • [20:42:34] <jconnolly> ah i see
  • [20:42:36] <koen> I use gpe-scap
  • [20:42:44] <koen> but that's because I have been using it for years
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  • [20:45:18] <jconnolly> hmm i'll give it a spin
  • [20:45:19] <jconnolly> thx koen
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  • [22:07:41] <b7500af1> When I use narcissus to build angstrom.. what's the difference between the two kernels (uImage, uImage-2.6.32) in the /boot?
  • [22:15:35] <DanaG> One's probably a symlink to the other.
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  • [22:40:34] <b7500af1> Has anyone seen a problem with getting question mark symbols in the console.. only when typing in commands, and only usually one at the beginning of a line, when you haven't typed anything for about 5 seconds. using a C3, and angstrom from narcissus. The serial cable is good, it was working fine as of a few days ago (prior to putting a new build of angstrom on the card), tried multiple cables, computers, BB's, USB to serial cable.
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  • [22:41:22] <b7500af1> I checked the baud rate, etc.. it's set up correctly.
  • [22:41:28] <Mrkva> b7500af1: me too
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  • [22:41:39] <Mrkva> and I don't know where the problem is
  • [22:41:53] <Mrkva> b7500af1: what are you using as a client?
  • [22:42:01] <Mrkva> minicom?
  • [22:42:06] <b7500af1> yea
  • [22:42:35] <Mrkva> hmm, same issue here
  • [22:43:10] <DanaG> ah, it's probably something about power-savings?
  • [22:43:46] <Mrkva> yeah, it probably could be usb power saving
  • [22:44:01] <DanaG> I mean, power-savings on the OMAP.
  • [22:44:57] <DanaG> I can't seem to find a definitive link, though.
  • [22:46:24] <thurbad> are you displaying ascii or ansi?
  • [22:47:24] <b7500af1> ascii
  • [22:48:19] <thurbad> quick (I hope) question
  • [22:48:45] <thurbad> how do I configure alsa to play simultaneous audio streams on the beagle, or can it not be done?
  • [22:49:32] <emeb> thurbad: you mean mix two streams into one device?
  • [22:49:33] <thurbad> and if not alsa is there another sound system on the beagle/Angstrom that will?
  • [22:49:40] <thurbad> yes
  • [22:49:54] <emeb> alsa is the low-level driver & a lib that sits on top of it.
  • [22:50:11] <emeb> your only choice to replace alsa is the old OSS drivers
  • [22:50:16] <emeb> and those aren't working on BB
  • [22:50:17] <thurbad> alsa normally handles it automatically in linux if I recall
  • [22:50:24] <emeb> probably not
  • [22:50:40] <emeb> you're thinking of the other audio layers like pulseaudio, esd, etc.
  • [22:50:41] <DanaG> PulseAudio should do it fine for you.
  • [22:50:49] <emeb> which sit between the app & alsa
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  • [22:51:37] <rcn-ee> b7500af1, that's cpu_idle..
  • [22:52:23] <thurbad> so install pulseaudio and configure, mplayer to defualt to that should work?
  • [22:53:11] <Heff> Hi, I'm looking for info on the Beagleboard XM LCD controller, anyone point me in the right direction?
  • [22:53:26] <emeb> pulseaudio is available in the Angstrom feed
  • [22:53:38] <b7500af1> rcn-ee, anything I can do to increase the delay before it idles? or disable it?
  • [22:53:43] <emeb> I hesitate to recommend it - it's a beast that can be hard to set up
  • [22:54:11] <rcn-ee_lpt> disable cpu_idle fixes it, it gets better in later kernels, i think the 2.6.36 merge has a fix that finaly fixes for all..
  • [22:54:31] <emeb> but if you have two apps that need simultaneous access to the audio dev it's prolly your best bet.
  • [22:54:38] <thurbad> is there an easier in mid level sound system that will work
  • [22:54:59] <emeb> dunno
  • [22:55:20] <thurbad> yeah I do need simultaneous access to the sound device :/
  • [22:55:47] <emeb> from separate apps (so you can't mix 'em prior to sending the buffer out yourself)?
  • [22:56:17] <thurbad> one is mplayer playing a video
  • [22:56:39] <thurbad> and then there's sounds on top of that based on user interaction
  • [22:57:01] <emeb> sounds like the right approach then.
  • [22:57:28] <thurbad> cool, thanks guys (and/or gals)
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  • [22:59:31] <Heff> Hi, I'm looking for info on the Beagleboard XM LCD controller, anyone point me in the right direction?
  • [22:59:45] <rcn-ee_lpt> Heff, same as the c4's
  • [23:00:08] <Heff> ty, will chk
  • [23:00:27] <thurbad> hopefully the angstrom-zeroconf-audio package will help with the install/configuration
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  • [23:03:07] <emeb> cross fingers...
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  • [23:05:03] <thurbad> ... and bury head in sand
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  • [23:06:47] <Heff> I'm no elctronics wiz, I think attaching a batt. powered LCD will be far to complex for me :(
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  • [23:08:01] <Heff> the Sharp PSP LCD looked just the ticket
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  • [23:09:55] <Heff> but I can't find enough material to warrant the purchase
  • [23:10:20] <b7500af1> rcn-ee, I can't seem to find any info on how to disable cpu_idle. can you point me in the right direction?
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  • [23:13:25] <Heff> guess I'll stick to software then...
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  • [23:27:25] <rcn-ee_lpt> b7500af1, change CONFIG_CPU_IDLE=y to # CONFIG_CPU_IDLE is not set
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  • [23:38:04] <thurbad> dangit, my beagle's monitor just died :/
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  • [23:44:33] <benry> hi guys
  • [23:45:26] <benry> I'm using the beagleboard with 2.6.32.11-l13, was wondering if there are steps to follow to update the kernel to 2.6.34+
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  • [23:46:18] <rcn-ee> benry, which base os?
  • [23:46:34] <rcn-ee> lucid/maverick. ;)
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  • [23:47:41] <benry> ah, lucid
  • [23:48:21] <benry> also need to mention that I'm using a D-Link usb->ethernet, which is not working by default.
  • [23:48:37] <rcn-ee> i try to make it painless.. you can use any from http://rcn-ee.net/deb/lucid/ so the latest would be wget http://rcn-ee.net/deb/lucid/v2.6.34.3-l2/install-me.sh
  • [23:48:42] <benry> "usb 2-1.7: device v2001 p3c05 is not supported"
  • [23:48:47] <benry> so not connection to the internet.
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  • [23:48:53] <rcn-ee> what does "sudo ifconfig -a" show?
  • [23:49:11] <benry> ubuntu@beagleboard:~$ sudo ifconfig -a eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:80:c8:3b:ac:07 BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B) lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0
  • [23:49:13] <benry> ugh
  • [23:49:16] <benry> pastebin, brb
  • [23:49:33] <rcn-ee> it's actually there.. then 'sudo dhclient eth0"
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  • [23:50:50] <benry> hm
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  • [23:51:34] <benry> You guys are the nicest IRC I've been in.
  • [23:51:35] <benry> thanks.
  • [23:52:08] <rcn-ee> np.. it's the wifi ones have lots of problems with... i think every usb-eth today works. ;)
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  • [23:55:03] <benry> cool, this seems to be an older model, I had a Linksys usb->ethernet device, but lost it in a move :). Thanks again. BTW - is IRC the best venue for help like this, or should I scower the mailing list logs?
  • [23:55:48] <rcn-ee> it depends on what time of the day it is.. not a lot of people on #beagle use ubuntu/debian ..
  • [23:56:22] <benry> ok, that's good to know
  • [23:56:28] <benry> Angstrom?
  • [23:56:45] <b7500af1> rcn-ee, last question.. i can't find the config file that "# CONFIG_CPU_IDLE is not set" is supposed to go..
  • [23:57:00] <rcn-ee> yeap.. that one.. ;) but if you don't get an answer on irc.. just ping the beagleboard google groups, lots of people on there..
  • [23:57:15] <b7500af1> sounds stupid saying that, but google isn't helping me out much this time.
  • [23:58:04] <rcn-ee> b7500af1, it's one of those options you can select when your 'rebuild' the kernel.. i'm not sure if you want to jump into that.. i think if you force the 'performance' goveneor it'll make it run full speed an not idle..
  • [23:59:04] <rcn-ee> i've always kept it disabled, till my last 2.6.35 test image, so i haven't played with any of the work arounds..
  • [23:59:36] <DanaG> weird... using bash to read -N1 loses everything on serial port.