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[00:37:03] <rlameiro> well i opened the cable and it is a crossed cable, so it should work
[00:37:25] <rlameiro> could it be the serial to usb converter?
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[00:44:30] <djlewis> test
[00:45:15] <mru> test failed
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[00:46:15] <mru> what are you testing anyway?
[00:46:37] <djlewis> irc logs == ok
[00:46:51] <djlewis> hi mru
[00:47:22] <mru> my logs always record exactly what I want them to
[00:47:48] <djlewis> i dont leave my computers on
[00:48:08] <mru> electricity is cheap in europe
[00:48:16] <djlewis> other than the weather box upstairs
[00:48:34] <mru> you could rig a beagle as irc logger
[00:48:53] <djlewis> not cheap for me :(
[00:49:25] <buZz> i think there is a public irc log for this channel
[00:49:31] <mru> :-)
[00:49:59] <buZz> http://www.beagleboard.org/irclogs/
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[00:50:13] <djlewis> and I didnt send buZz my weeds
[00:50:23] <buZz> http://www.beagleboard.org/irclogs/index.php?date=2010-07-03#T00:49:25 :D
[00:50:32] <buZz> djlewis: thats why i'm so clearminded
[00:50:35] <buZz> better fix that
[00:50:42] <djlewis> hehee
[00:50:51] <mru> buZz: we know all about those logs
[00:50:54] <buZz> untoxicated
[00:51:05] <buZz> mru: well i was just showing it to djlewis
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[00:51:12] <mru> s/un/in/
[00:51:19] <buZz> no, i'm untoxicated
[00:51:22] <buZz> i have to fix that
[00:51:31] * mru is speaking about himself
[00:51:35] <buZz> ah :)
[00:51:49] * mru is about to write some ppc asm
[00:52:03] <buZz> fancy :D
[00:52:15] <mru> after drinking beer
[00:52:17] <djlewis> for fun or profit ?
[00:53:30] <mru> there's a difference?
[00:53:37] <djlewis> i just gotta put this bucket of ice cream away
[00:53:41] * mru thinks profit is fun
[00:53:52] <djlewis> good point
[00:54:25] <mru> it so happens I accidentally broke ffmpeg on ppc64 yesterday
[00:54:32] <mru> I'm sort of obliged to fix it
[00:55:02] <djlewis> yep, its your baby :)
[00:55:23] <mru> ppc isn't normally my territory
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[00:55:47] <djlewis> meanwhile this bucket isn't going to the fridge on its on...
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[01:03:16] <buZz> way too hot here for icecream
[01:04:00] <buZz> it was 33.5 celsius today .. still pretty humid
[01:04:09] <mru> too hot for icecream... sounds bad
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[01:04:30] <mru> some say icecream is best made with liquid nitrogen
[01:04:55] <buZz> i've seen linux powered icecream vending machines
[01:05:00] <buZz> somewhere on the web
[01:05:43] <buZz> http://www.downloadsquad.com/2010/05/11/linux-now-makes-ice-cream-can-your-os-do-that/
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[01:21:56] <ds2> hmmm
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[01:28:45] <mru> ds2: is that so?
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[01:29:26] <ds2> indeed
[01:30:17] <mru> wow, who'd've thought
[01:32:06] <ds2> it links!
[01:32:31] <mru> but does it run?
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[01:33:02] <ds2> no :(
[01:33:12] <mru> too bad
[01:33:24] <mru> what are you working on btw?
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[01:33:33] <ds2> stuff
[01:33:44] <ds2> juggling 2344213428324798132743724892378943728943728943892467825364 things
[01:33:46] <mru> ah, I could never have guessed
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[01:34:01] <mru> is that a git hash?
[01:34:16] <ds2> prehaps, but I am not telling you what tree ;)
[01:34:26] <mru> one day I'll find it
[01:34:42] <mru> and all will become clear
[01:35:05] <mru> for now, my ppc asm is working
[01:35:20] <ds2> people still use PPC cores?
[01:35:48] <ds2> is there an optimized ffmeg lib for PPC?
[01:35:52] <mru> it's still supported in ffmpeg
[01:36:31] <mru> ffmpeg supports many unusual systems
[01:36:38] <mru> even Alpha
[01:36:43] <ds2> wonder how much faster is the hw accelerator compared to ffmpeg
[01:37:04] <ds2> got a MediaMVP box sitting around
[01:37:13] <mru> which hw?
[01:37:27] <ds2> it is an IBM PPC core with some MPEG acceleration
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[01:37:42] <mru> the old vulcan chip?
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[01:37:47] <mru> or something more modern?
[01:37:59] <ds2> it is an old board
[01:38:07] <ds2> but it netboots by default so it is handy to muck with
[01:38:08] <mru> vulcan is ppc60x+mpeg
[01:38:24] <ds2> except the MPEG part is not well documented by IBM
[01:38:53] <mru> hehe
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[01:39:06] <mru> I have one of those in my stash
[01:39:14] <mru> old amino stb
[01:39:22] <ds2> machine : IBM Redwood6
[01:39:26] <ds2> that is from cpuinfo
[01:39:42] <mru> I don't remember what mine says
[01:40:13] <ds2> not sure how else to check what CPU it is
[01:40:20] <mru> right now I'm using a ps3 and a g4 windtunnel
[01:40:34] <mru> read the markings on the chip?
[01:40:47] <mru> iirc mine starts with a 2
[01:40:49] <ds2> this is a "finished" product that netboots
[01:40:56] <ds2> and I am not near it to open it up either
[01:41:42] <mru> mine is <10 feet away
[01:42:03] <mru> might need tools to open it though
[01:42:07] <ds2> I use it as a media player as it has composite out
[01:42:11] <mru> don't remeber if I put the screws back last time
[01:42:20] <buZz> i've been looking at that ppc dealextreme has on offer
[01:43:08] <buZz> http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.29102
[01:43:18] <buZz> - 250 MHz IBM PowerPC Processor (350 MIPS)
[01:43:22] <ds2> this is the free software that works on it - http://www.mvpmc.org/
[01:43:23] <mru> looks like I did
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[01:43:37] <mru> it's an STB02501
[01:44:21] <ds2> might be the same... what remains of the bootlog shows STBx25xx as teh FB name
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[01:45:11] <mru> probably something similar then
[01:45:29] <ds2> how does your board behavior for video decoding?
[01:46:16] <mru> whatever is in the flash chip decodes mpeg2
[01:46:55] <mru> https://www-01.ibm.com/chips/techlib/techlib.nsf/techdocs/C915A9928B49DAA487256BC2003813EF
[01:47:32] <mru> ppc405 apparenly
[01:48:34] <mru> it was a nice system back in the day
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[01:56:51] <rlameiro> anyone can help me in here
[01:57:08] <rlameiro> i am booting a igepv2 and using the serial console
[01:57:18] <rlameiro> but it doesnt receive nothing
[01:57:26] <ds2> the netboot makes it quite convenient but the 16Ms is a doozer
[01:57:43] <rlameiro> when it prompts for the login i tipe root and it doesnt ask me the password
[01:57:54] <rlameiro> i already checked if my cable is null modem
[01:58:10] <rlameiro> and also the idc -db9 is correctly wired
[01:58:35] <rlameiro> can it be from my Serial to usb converter?
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[02:03:38] <ssvb> rlameiro: this looks like a problem with your rootfs, make sure that you have actually set root password properly and check file permissions
[02:04:32] <rlameiro> ssvb: its fist time i am runing it
[02:04:37] <rlameiro> its running from nand
[02:05:13] <rlameiro> AFAIK its running poky linux
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[02:05:29] <ssvb> rlameiro: if you can type commands in u-boot prompt, then your serial cable is fine
[02:05:37] <rlameiro> problem is that i dont have any dvi-d monitor, or hdmi tv in hand..
[02:06:00] <rlameiro> ssvb: that is the echo for the serial program
[02:06:22] <rlameiro> wen i try to abort the boot process it doesnt do anything
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[02:42:13] <rlameiro> ssvb: i found ehat was the glitch, i had dts and rts enabled on the terminal aplication
[02:42:21] <rlameiro> works now
[02:43:09] <ssvb> ok
[02:43:30] <rlameiro> ssvb: thanks for the help anyway
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[10:05:50] <Hector> Good morning, is the BB sponsored project contest still ongoing?
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[10:07:15] <adonis> anyone here have experience using the dsp part of beagleboard ?
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[10:07:31] <Guest38301> hi
[10:08:22] <Guest38301> anybody here ?
[10:10:14] <_av500_> no
[10:10:51] <dm8tbr> we're all an illusion
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[11:11:43] <neo01124> _av500_, i can measure the duty cycle with my multimeter but frequency doesnt show up. anything i should be trying differently ?
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[11:26:09] <_av500_> err?
[11:28:29] <_av500_> if you can measure the duty cycle, there is a low pass filter somewhere
[11:28:43] <_av500_> so you cannot measure the freq...
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[12:06:38] <drakkan1000> Hi, pppd on angstrom seems to have this bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=467004, any chance to fix it?
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[12:17:21] <woglinde> jo
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[12:58:51] <neo01124> _av500_, i mean there is a different knob position for frequency and when i switch over to that i dont get any o/p.
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[13:01:50] <_av500_> how do you measure duty cycle?
[13:02:07] <neo01124> on the voltage setting
[13:02:15] <neo01124> V dc
[13:03:18] <_av500_> if you can measure the duty cycle, there is a low pass filter somewhere
[13:03:20] <_av500_> so you cannot measure the freq...
[13:03:21] <neo01124> i did the voltage measurement to just confirm that the pwm driver was actually doing something
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[13:04:12] <woglinde> hi av500
[13:04:29] <woglinde> av500 hm the strange usb-stuff appers only when g_ether is not loaded
[13:04:50] <woglinde> or better not installed
[13:04:55] <neo01124> _av500_, but then what good is the frequency position of the knob on the multimeter?
[13:05:59] <_av500_> are you sure there is no low pass on the BB side?
[13:06:07] <_av500_> is it the gpio directly?
[13:06:28] <_av500_> neo01124: then its 1.8v only, maybe the dmm does not trigger
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[13:07:41] <neo01124> i have directly connected the multimeter probes to the expansion port of the BB
[13:07:56] <_av500_> so 1,8 only
[13:08:03] <neo01124> yea maybe
[13:08:34] <neo01124> lol, i went and specially bought this multimeter to mess around
[13:08:45] <neo01124> and no frequency
[13:09:20] <neo01124> _av500_, maybe i should step this voltage up and then measure the freq
[13:15:23] <_av500_> try
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[13:15:34] <_av500_> how high is the freq supposed to be?
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[13:49:28] <rlameiro> hello
[13:49:54] <rlameiro> anyone knws how to install ubuntu on the beagle using the alternate install
[13:50:00] <rlameiro> our ome kind of net install?
[13:50:49] <_av500_> 1) copy stuff to sdcard
[13:50:51] <_av500_> 2) boot
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[13:54:54] <rlameiro> _av500_: ok
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[14:02:50] <Crofton|work> btw, Ettus announce the existence of this OMAP3 based device at ERRT
[14:03:20] <Crofton|work> http://balister.dyndns.org:8008/~balister/img_0819.jpg
[14:03:29] <Crofton|work> there will be some changes on the final version .....
[14:04:31] <mru> timeout
[14:04:47] <Crofton|work> hmmm
[14:04:58] <Crofton|work> I can see from inside ...
[14:05:10] <Crofton|work> bbiab
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[14:27:12] <Crofton|work> mru, try again
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[14:27:51] <mru> oh, that
[14:29:16] <Crofton|work> :)
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[14:43:08] <emeb|mac> Crofton|work: what's the interface between the OMAP & FPGA (parallel, serial, etc)?
[14:43:28] <Crofton|work> gpmc controller ...
[14:44:08] <emeb|mac> cool - prolly gets decent data rate
[14:44:13] <Crofton|work> yeah
[14:44:52] <emeb|mac> That's a big advantage of using the overo vs beagle.
[14:45:03] <Crofton|work> yep
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[14:45:22] <Crofton|work> final version will have some changes
[14:45:41] <emeb|mac> Is that board final form/fit/function or will the final version be more compact?
[14:45:54] <Crofton|work> smae size
[14:46:06] <Crofton|work> I think he plans to put it in a usrp2 case
[14:46:29] <emeb|mac> Ah - so it's compatible w/ existing HW
[14:46:50] <Crofton|work> yeah
[14:46:54] <Crofton|work> size wise
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[14:47:18] <Crofton|work> making it look like a usrp1 on usb is left as an exercise to the reader :)
[14:47:55] <emeb|mac> Project...
[14:48:09] <emeb|mac> What's up w/ the 3 USB connectors?
[14:48:15] <Crofton|work> host
[14:48:16] <Crofton|work> otg
[14:48:23] <Crofton|work> and usb console
[14:48:35] <jacekowski> and fpga usb
[14:48:38] <jacekowski> 4 connectors
[14:48:39] <Crofton|work> ignore the one on the other side of the board
[14:48:43] <Crofton|work> :)
[14:48:47] <emeb|mac> Ah - console is just usb/serial
[14:48:50] <Crofton|work> yeah
[14:49:18] <Crofton|work> the "front panel" is getting revamped so there will be real etherent
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[14:49:26] <emeb|mac> oops - missed the one on the left side -
[14:49:38] <emeb|mac> jacekowski: you involved in this too?
[14:49:48] <jacekowski> no
[14:50:07] <emeb|mac> Crofton|work: Ethernet is good. How is that supported?
[14:50:23] <jacekowski> but thing is i just know things after looking at them
[14:50:25] <Crofton|work> I think like they do on gumstix
[14:50:32] <Crofton|work> heh
[14:50:40] <jacekowski> emeb|mac: for example that ft232 chip
[14:50:46] <jacekowski> emeb|mac: that's usb to serial
[14:51:14] <Crofton|work> there was some fantasy about having a microblaze in the fpga
[14:51:17] <Crofton|work> sort of like usrp2
[14:51:35] <emeb|mac> Crofton|work: kinda redundant tho
[14:51:46] <Crofton|work> yeah
[14:52:04] <emeb|mac> ettus using microblaze or some open-source thing?
[14:52:10] <Crofton|work> you know how these things go
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[14:52:17] <Crofton|work> there is one in the usrp2
[14:52:38] <Crofton|work> that is where the thought came from
[14:52:45] <emeb|mac> yeah - I know how scope tends to contract when it comes to implementation.
[14:52:52] <Crofton|work> yeh
[14:52:58] <Crofton|work> the SD card will go away
[14:53:10] <emeb|mac> big dreams: meet reality :)
[14:53:14] <Crofton|work> which is too bad
[14:53:28] <Crofton|work> but, in reality, we haven't been swapping cards a lot
[14:53:51] <emeb|mac> you mean RF cards?
[14:54:01] <Crofton|work> no the SD card
[14:54:10] <Crofton|work> oh wait, that photo is missing it :)
[14:54:18] <emeb|mac> oops
[14:54:22] <Crofton|work> you can see where it should be
[14:54:53] <emeb|mac> north of the usb on the right side - empty decal
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[14:55:01] <Crofton|work> yep
[14:55:12] <emeb|mac> I assume you're just using overo's uSD
[14:55:17] <Crofton|work> yeah
[14:55:34] <emeb|mac> but in a case it would be nice to have outside access
[14:55:47] <Crofton|work> agreed, but the space is tight
[14:56:13] <Crofton|work> if you want to swap rootfs' just use a large uSD card with two large partitions
[14:56:23] <emeb|mac> I take it that's going away on the next rev?
[14:56:32] <Crofton|work> I always throught the case was crazy :)
[14:56:33] <Crofton|work> yeah
[14:56:46] <Crofton|work> also the next rev will not have pro sized audio :)
[14:57:09] <emeb|mac> I saw those Neutrik connectors and wondered what that was about
[14:57:29] <emeb|mac> 3.5mm audio plugs are fine
[15:00:26] <emeb|mac> Wonder if it would be possible to bring out video & camera - at least to headers on board.
[15:00:36] <emeb|mac> could see some apps where that would be useful.
[15:01:35] <Crofton|work> I think the camera is on the overo
[15:01:43] <Crofton|work> there is an hdmi connector
[15:02:18] <jacekowski> it's dvi
[15:02:22] <jacekowski> on hdmi connector
[15:03:26] <emeb|mac> Ah yes - there's the camera conn on overo.
[15:04:27] <emeb|mac> Crofton|work: any feel for what kind of sample rates you can get from the FPGA to OMAP?
[15:05:42] <jacekowski> emeb|mac: high
[15:05:59] <jacekowski> and it's not sample rate
[15:06:01] <jacekowski> it's bit rate
[15:07:16] <jacekowski> but spartan can push a lot more than omap can process
[15:07:41] <emeb|mac> jacekowski: that's why I'm asking
[15:09:35] <jacekowski> http://www.xilinx.com/support/documentation/data_sheets/ds610.pdf
[15:10:08] <jacekowski> what would might be limiting is width of data bus
[15:11:23] <Crofton|work> the limiting factor will be the gpmc controller
[15:11:43] <Crofton|work> basically, we should be able to get more data into the OMAP than it can swallow
[15:12:29] <emeb|mac> Crofton|work: that's what I though.
[15:12:36] <Crofton|work> bbl need to run errands
[15:12:41] <emeb|mac> l8r
[15:13:10] <Crofton|work> there will be two versions, one with largest 3A dsp, and the other with the largest that can use free tool
[15:13:24] <emeb|mac> good idea
[15:13:30] <Crofton|work> for maximum fun, you will need to cut sample rate in spartan :)
[15:13:43] <emeb|mac> that's not hard
[15:13:50] <emeb|mac> DDC, resample, etc
[15:14:05] <emeb|mac> can even do a lot of demod in FPGA
[15:14:26] <emeb|mac> if you don't mind swapping out configs for different waveforms
[15:17:09] <Crofton|work> fpga is loaded from omap :)
[15:17:21] <emeb|mac> excellent
[15:17:32] <emeb|mac> I found that to work nicely with my board
[15:17:49] <emeb|mac> just spew bitstreams at the fpga - bam! new hardware
[15:18:57] <emeb|mac> then the hard part is writing kernel drivers for all the different interfaces that are possible.
[15:21:47] <jacekowski> hard?
[15:22:00] <jacekowski> it's only hard if you don't have docs
[15:25:02] <emeb|mac> jacekowski: you write a lot of kernel code?
[15:25:16] <jacekowski> yeah
[15:25:22] <jacekowski> esspecialy without any docs
[15:25:22] <emeb|mac> cool
[15:25:54] <emeb|mac> my big problem with that is getting lost while trying to make sense of all the existing APIs
[15:26:28] <emeb|mac> what does the ALSA infrastructure expect, how do the std SPI drivers talk to other layers, etc
[15:40:34] <emeb|mac> interesting to read http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/lit/getliterature.tsp?literatureNumber=sprugw3&fileType=pdf
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[15:40:58] <emeb|mac> (diff for latest OMAP3530 TRM)
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[16:45:06] <aszpain> what is that MLO file used for? is that OMAP3 or BEagle related?
[16:52:03] <jacekowski> that's bootloader
[16:52:11] <emeb> MLO is 2nd-stage bootloader. It is invoked by ROM bootloader and does some minor setup before loading u-boot
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[16:54:38] <JDuke128> hi , i m having problem on openembedded , i m using igepv2 , the angstrom doesnt have igepv2 wifi driver ? i tried "bitbake console-image" tried to access wifi , but i cant access
[16:55:50] <aszpain> emeb so it is BEagle thing related rigght?
[16:55:53] <aszpain> I do have IGEPv2
[16:56:37] <emeb> aszpain: the name 'MLO' is hard-coded into the OMAP boot ROM, so it's not specific to Beagle.
[16:56:52] <emeb> you'll find it in other OMAP-based systems.
[16:57:29] <emeb> most Beagle-specific code is in u-boot, although some folks have made custom MLO builds that don't need u-boot.
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[16:59:18] <aszpain> so.. may I use that MLO file in IGEPv2?
[16:59:49] <emeb> possibly. Doesn't IGEPv2 website provide needed binaries?
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[17:03:35] <aszpain> yes but they lack MLO
[17:04:01] <aszpain> I have uImage and modules.tar files
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[17:04:10] <aszpain> I dont know if it is enough
[17:04:15] <emeb> but no u-boot or MLO?
[17:04:45] <aszpain> well I dont search too seriously I will recheck
[17:04:55] <emeb> probably worthwhile...
[17:13:52] <cody> how fast is the beagle at encoding video? which quality can i expect with live encoded video?
[17:14:14] <cody> i guess not too much=)
[17:14:32] <rlameiro> aszpain: what distro are you running on igepv2?
[17:14:45] <rlameiro> I am trying to install ubuntu on it
[17:14:58] <rlameiro> but i have some dificulties
[17:15:17] <cody> i have both ubuntu and angstrom running on the igepv2
[17:15:34] <rlameiro> cody: how did you installed it?
[17:15:50] <cody> i followed the instructions on the webseite
[17:16:06] <rlameiro> with the VM sdk?
[17:16:25] <cody> hmm no, i used a precompiled image
[17:16:55] <rlameiro> well, i tried the same and it didnt worked
[17:16:57] <cody> you can use the root image for the beagleboard
[17:17:12] <cody> but you need a igep compatible kernel
[17:17:23] <rlameiro> yes i used one of rcn-ee
[17:17:45] <rlameiro> oh, maybe thats the problem
[17:18:27] <cody> hm actually i think i used the angstrom kernel+ubuntu root image
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[17:20:05] <aszpain> rlameiro yo estoy igual k tu tio jaja
[17:20:34] <aszpain> no me compre la targeta de 2GB y ahora toy sufriendo.. hey pero dicen que el angstrong es mucho mas rapido
[17:20:49] <rlameiro> yo tiengio una de 4gb
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[17:29:26] <rlameiro> the thing is that igepv2 has the kernels over there
[17:29:40] <rlameiro> i just dont know how to put it on the board..
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[17:43:10] <rednaz> Hello!
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[18:45:02] <Hector> Hello, is the BB sponsored project contest still active?
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[20:25:01] <aszpain> WE ARE DA BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[20:25:16] <aszpain> "we are the champions... my friend and .. nannanana"
[20:25:32] <aszpain> NEXT TARGET: GERMANY lol
[20:25:38] <woglinde> ??????
[20:25:40] <woglinde> 3:0
[20:25:42] <woglinde> for us
[20:25:49] <aszpain> SOCCER dude
[20:25:53] <woglinde> yes
[20:25:58] <woglinde> 3:0 germany
[20:25:59] <aszpain> 1-0 spain-paraguay
[20:26:00] <woglinde> next game
[20:26:18] <aszpain> well next SPAIN VS GERMANY.....
[20:26:28] <aszpain> yes
[20:26:30] <woglinde> hm dont you understand?
[20:26:43] <woglinde> next game we (germany) wins 3:0
[20:26:50] <aszpain> naaah
[20:26:58] <aszpain> I dont think so... :)
[20:27:11] <woglinde> if torres playnt from beginning we will win 3:1
[20:28:07] <aszpain> you forget about Iniesta, Ramos, and Puyol... so 3:4
[20:28:13] <aszpain> :)
[20:35:24] * likewise is accepting bets :-)
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[21:56:27] <aszpain> hmmm when narcisus compiles an image.... whats the default linux version? can u change it?
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