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  • [00:23:17] <rlameiro> hello everyone
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  • [00:23:39] <rlameiro> i just ordered yesterday an IGEPv2 board
  • [00:24:07] <rlameiro> i do want to know what is the best way to implement a audio interface with it
  • [00:24:41] <rlameiro> the board audio is not good enough for my needs, i am looking into a TI codec
  • [00:24:49] <rlameiro> any recomendation?
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  • [00:42:24] <ghoti> rlameiro: I don't know much about audio, but I expect it shouldn't be a problem to include support for USB audio in your build.
  • [00:46:45] <rlameiro> well i did wanted to make a usb less solution, but it passed my mind :D
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  • [03:28:59] <djlewis> ghoti: are you powering your BB with otg port?
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  • [03:44:38] <djlewis> if so, word is that the new kernels draw more power than the otg cab deliver.
  • [03:45:01] <djlewis> s/cab/can
  • [03:45:09] <djlewis> gn
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  • [04:16:50] <gregoiregentil> http://www.alwaysinnovating.com/wiki/index.php/Kernel_compilation
  • [04:17:00] <gregoiregentil> Sorry. Wrong window!
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  • [05:28:05] <ds2> Hmmm
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  • [05:31:37] <av500> mmmH
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  • [05:53:41] <ghoti> Will a 6VDC power supply damage a beagleboard? I can't seem to find a 5V one.
  • [05:53:57] <av500> lol
  • [05:54:18] <av500> 5V got outlawed where you live?
  • [05:54:19] <ghoti> Or alternately, is there any truth to what djlewis said earlier about newer kernels drawing more power than the OTG port can handle?
  • [05:54:52] <ghoti> av, I'm pretty sure it's somewhere around here, but I've been digging through my office for an hour and haven't found it yet.
  • [05:55:18] <av500> buy 5v usb charger on next street corner....
  • [05:55:24] <ghoti> I've found about 10 other power supplies, half of which I don't know what they came with.
  • [05:55:33] <ghoti> 23:28 < djlewis> ghoti: are you powering your BB with otg port?
  • [05:55:35] <ghoti> 23:44 < djlewis> if so, word is that the new kernels draw more power than the otg cab deliver.
  • [05:55:52] <av500> thats why you label ech power brick 1st thing after unpacking...
  • [05:56:42] <ghoti> 5VDC 500mamp is the same whichever brick it comes from; the only tricky bit is the plugs on the end. But in this case, I have NO 5V bricks. A label wouldn't help.
  • [05:57:29] <ghoti> av500, perhaps it isn't a power problem... Can you tell me what's wrong at the bottom of http://pastebin.com/kaz0Q39i ? My kernel is dumping core after trying to init swap.
  • [05:57:32] <ghoti> I think.
  • [05:57:51] <av500> yes, this thing everybody seems to have these days
  • [05:58:32] <ghoti> Oh really? Can you point me to any reading material that'll help me fix it?
  • [05:58:42] <av500> dont power from usb
  • [05:58:49] <av500> or at least mask the data lines
  • [05:59:17] <ghoti> Okay... Will 6V kill the board?
  • [05:59:31] <av500> dont use what is not inside the specs
  • [05:59:38] <av500> or try it and report ....
  • [06:00:12] <ghoti> fair enough... I can't afford to replace this just now if it breaks, so I'll try a USB charger. Should 550mA be enough?
  • [06:00:50] <av500> I think so
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  • [06:08:54] <ghoti> Hmm. Tried two different USB chargers. In both cases, the lights come on, but I see no console output on the serial port. When I plug in to a powered USB hub, I see kernel boot messages.
  • [06:12:17] <ghoti> av500, do you know if the problem has been identified yet, or where it's being discussed?
  • [06:12:36] <av500> mostly here
  • [06:12:56] <av500> and in some far away TI corner cubicle...
  • [06:12:59] <ghoti> ah
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  • [06:24:31] <ghoti> av500: I'd love to find one on a street corner, but it's 2:23 AM here.
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  • [06:26:30] <ghoti> Okay, I found another USB charger, and this one gets me a little farther. I still get a kernel panic, but now it's in a different place... Last two lines are:
  • [06:26:33] <ghoti> [ 17.445556] No filesystem could mount root, tried: ext3
  • [06:26:35] <ghoti> [ 17.450958] Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(179,2)
  • [06:26:58] <ds2> outlawing 5V? EMP's at work?
  • [06:27:18] <ghoti> ds2: yup, that's it.
  • [06:27:40] <ghoti> Can I tell the system to use ext2 instead of ext3? I don't really need journalling...
  • [06:29:26] <av500> ghoti: ok, but now, no usb issue any more
  • [06:29:39] <av500> pastebin.com your boot log
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  • [06:32:55] <ghoti> av500: http://pastebin.com/VdMGzFK1 ... but I'm still experimenting. I *think* this boot image may require a clean ext3 filesystem, and this one might have been unclean, or only ext2.
  • [06:33:57] <av500> looks like your root partition is bad
  • [06:37:03] <ghoti> where "bad" ~ "no ext3 journal". So ... is there a way to ignore the journal and just use ext2?
  • [06:38:08] <ds2> wonder if the so called MUSB power problems are all on C4's
  • [06:38:37] <ghoti> I'm on a C3.
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  • [06:39:07] <av500> ds2: it is not a power problem
  • [06:39:16] <av500> it is a crahs in musb as soon as it enumerates
  • [06:39:23] <av500> which it does as soon as you power from usb
  • [06:39:26] <ds2> Oh
  • [06:39:46] <av500> if you mask the data lines it should work
  • [06:39:50] <ds2> so U-boot works fine and if you disable USB support entirely, it works?
  • [06:39:59] <av500> or use the same usb cable for 5v dcin
  • [06:40:10] <av500> ds2: yes, that is my conclusion
  • [06:40:18] <ghoti> ya, I may just roll my own 5v power supply that way.
  • [06:40:24] <ds2> good friend MUSB strikes again
  • [06:40:24] <av500> ghoti: yes
  • [06:40:41] <av500> cut an usb cable and use red and black
  • [06:40:58] <ghoti> But will the problem go away? Is it load related?
  • [06:40:59] <ds2> or use a MicroUSB charger + micro to mini adaapter
  • [06:41:11] <ds2> wtf don't people debug that thing
  • [06:41:23] <av500> koen, _koen_ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  • [06:41:32] <av500> ds2: all they send is that "student"... :)
  • [06:41:39] <ghoti> I would if I could... my kung fu isn't good enough.
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  • [06:41:53] <ds2> the MUSB driver isn't THAT difficult
  • [06:42:07] <ghoti> I don't speak C.
  • [06:42:07] <ds2> esp. now that there are docs for it
  • [06:42:09] <_koen_> good morning all
  • [06:42:18] <ds2> morning koen
  • [06:42:35] <ghoti> If it's written in bash, I can rip it to pieces and put it back together again. Or awk, or php. But not C.
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  • [06:48:14] <ghoti> If I just rip out the inner two tabs on a USB A plug, that should be sufficient, right?
  • [06:48:31] <ghoti> That's probably easier than cutting a cable and finding a plug.
  • [06:48:52] <av500> yes
  • [06:48:55] <av500> should work too
  • [06:50:47] <ghoti> What does it mean if USR0 and USR1 are just flashing about twice per second, and no console messages appear?
  • [06:51:45] <ghoti> Insufficient power, perhaps - that was a smaller USB charger.
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  • [06:58:40] <ghoti> Okay, this is weird. I found a 5V power supply. When I plug it in, the BB's lights behave as expected, but I get what looks like wrong-bit-rate characters on the serial console. Does that make any sense?
  • [07:01:32] <Crofton> it makes sense if you have the wrong bit rate set ...
  • [07:01:32] <ghoti> So then, no, it doesn't make sense.
  • [07:01:32] <ghoti> Unless the BB changes its console bit rate depending on where it gets power.
  • [07:01:32] <av500> how is the power supply specced?
  • [07:01:32] <ghoti> DC 5V 2A
  • [07:01:32] <ghoti> It's for another USB hub.
  • [07:01:32] <av500> should be ok
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  • [07:01:41] <_koen_> sounds like you have an old kernel with cpuidle enabled
  • [07:01:45] <ghoti> Oh, that's not good. This power supply makes squeaky noises.
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  • [07:02:04] <av500> ti did not pay the bandwidth bill?
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  • [07:02:52] <hitlin37> does gettimeofday function gives correct result on BB/angstrom
  • [07:02:55] <ghoti> _koen_: is that something I can control via a configuration file I can get at while mounting the filesystem on another box?
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  • [07:13:45] <hrw> morning
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  • [07:25:02] <ghoti> This is so frustrating. When I power the BB from a USB hub, it gets to the kernel panic. When I power it from anything else, it now does nothing but blink its lights.
  • [07:25:10] * ghoti pulls at his hair
  • [07:28:44] <ghoti> And I get funny characters. A "y" with two dots over it, looking like I'm at the wrong bit rate.
  • [07:30:01] <jacekowski> ghoti: you probably are
  • [07:30:14] <jacekowski> ghoti: use old, very old kernel
  • [07:30:24] <jacekowski> ghoti: new ones will panic if you power it trough usb
  • [07:30:41] <ghoti> jacekowski: are you saying that the BB uses one bit rate if I power it from USB, but a different one if I power from the 5V plug?
  • [07:30:46] <av500> no
  • [07:30:49] <av500> it does not
  • [07:31:01] <ghoti> I didn't think so.
  • [07:31:33] <jacekowski> i never said that
  • [07:31:43] <jacekowski> i'm saying that you can't power it trough usb
  • [07:31:52] <av500> you can
  • [07:32:01] <av500> you just have to make it not try to use usb :)
  • [07:32:14] <jacekowski> well, you could, just don't push usb plug too far so you don't have D+ and D- connected
  • [07:32:23] <av500> yes
  • [07:32:35] <jacekowski> but as soon as it's connected it will panic
  • [07:32:41] <ghoti> av500, perhaps YOU can, but I'm not having much luck. If I power it using anything without USB data, I get nothing on console except sometimes garbage characters.
  • [07:33:11] <ghoti> When I just use 5V alone, I don't even get to the point that it can panic.
  • [07:33:14] <jacekowski> ghoti: then get better power supply
  • [07:33:24] <jacekowski> STABLE power supply
  • [07:33:31] <av500> ghoti: I suspect your power supply
  • [07:35:08] <ghoti> I've tried three different ones, including the power supply I'm using for the USB hub that does work (until the panic).
  • [07:36:30] <ghoti> jacekowski: can you point me to an older kernel?
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  • [07:38:25] <jacekowski> you need at least 1A power suppply
  • [07:38:43] <jacekowski> or it will be very unstable
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  • [07:39:31] <santiago> hey can someone help me with an issue with my beagle Rev C#
  • [07:39:32] <santiago> C3
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  • [07:39:47] <santiago> the EHCI port doesn't seem to be working :(
  • [07:39:54] <jacekowski> well, it's EHCIonly
  • [07:40:08] <santiago> sry , i am a novice
  • [07:40:33] <santiago> i tried changing Angstrom images .. but that is not working
  • [07:40:41] <santiago> can it be a hardware failure ?
  • [07:40:43] <jacekowski> you can connect only EHCI devices to it
  • [07:40:49] <santiago> is there a way to diagnose it ?
  • [07:40:54] <jacekowski> so keyboards/mouses will not work
  • [07:41:10] <santiago> i used to connect a HS usb hub to it
  • [07:41:24] <santiago> worked fine before i changed the images on the SD card
  • [07:41:44] <santiago> it does detect the usb hub .. but ls /dev does not enumerate the devices
  • [07:42:26] <santiago> has anyone faced the same issue
  • [07:43:10] <santiago> u there jacek ?
  • [07:44:34] <santiago> i hoped the chat will be more supporting
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  • [07:45:01] <santiago> has anyone face the EHCI issues with the beagle .. plz help
  • [07:45:59] <ghoti> santiago: it's 3:45 in the morning, where I am. Not everybody stays up 24/7.
  • [07:46:37] <santiago> i understand ... but i have pressing needs - a deadline to meet
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  • [07:47:35] <ghoti> I recommend you offer to pay someone to help, and see what bites you get in the morning.
  • [07:48:01] <santiago> irc channels are not meant for paid service ...
  • [07:48:10] <ghoti> The knowledgeable people in this channel are here to help us help ourselves.
  • [07:48:24] <santiago> tahts y i seek there support
  • [07:48:26] <ghoti> santiago: you're the one who mentioned the deadline. :)
  • [07:48:47] <santiago> yeah .. buddy i am streesed outta here
  • [07:49:02] <ghoti> I feel your pain. I can't even get my BB to boot.
  • [07:49:14] <santiago> i can help ... let me know the problem
  • [07:50:50] <santiago> never mind ... thansx for the chat .. i will sseek help somewhere else
  • [07:50:51] <ghoti> well... if I try to power the BB via USB from a computer, the kernel loads but I get the panic folks have been talking about. If I power the BB in any other way, I don't see *anything* on the serial console, except sometimes noise.
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  • [07:51:06] <ghoti> very helpful.
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  • [08:01:57] <ghoti> Okay! I can boot! I mangled a USB cable, and I see console messages that don't end in a panic! Thanks av500 and jace.
  • [08:02:27] <av500> ghoti: sell "BB special usb cables" on ebay
  • [08:02:30] <av500> 4) profit
  • [08:02:43] <ghoti> Hah!
  • [08:03:10] <ghoti> Next challenge: I don't have a login prompt. The last console message says it's switching to a framebuffer. Did I miss something in my setup? I'm not planning to have a keyboard and monitor on this for now, just serial...
  • [08:05:19] <av500> ghoti: angstrom?
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  • [09:34:07] <santiago> my ehci on bb is not enumerating the devices on the usbhub , has anyone faced same issues ?
  • [09:34:16] <santiago> help will be muxh appreciated
  • [09:35:41] <santiago> i have tried to change the image on the sd card .. but nothing seems to help :(
  • [09:38:42] <akumar> root@beagleboard:~# opkg list
  • [09:38:43] <akumar> Collected errors:
  • [09:38:43] <akumar> * opkg_conf_init: Could not create lock file /usr/lib/opkg/lock: Input/output error.
  • [09:39:25] <akumar> hi, when i fired opkg list command then it fires the error, mention above.
  • [09:39:38] <akumar> please any one help me
  • [09:40:27] <_koen_> sounds like your filesystem is busted
  • [09:41:59] <akumar> _koen_: thanks, then i want to re-flush.
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  • [10:04:21] <_koen_> happy mailman day everyone
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  • [10:15:14] <dm8tbr> indeed
  • [10:19:21] <topfs2> mailman day?
  • [10:20:59] <av500> topfs2: why unsigned int in a for() loop?
  • [10:21:38] <topfs2> because size returns unsigned int
  • [10:22:20] <av500> for( unsigned int i ....)?
  • [10:22:46] <topfs2> I usually use unsigned int there because std::vector::size returns unsigned itn
  • [10:24:12] <_koen_> topfs2: first of the month, lots of "you are subscribe to <foo>" mails
  • [10:24:23] <topfs2> ooooh :)
  • [10:26:07] <_koen_> a lot less since I use gmane nntp for most lists now
  • [10:26:32] <_koen_> and unsubscribed from a few dozen last year
  • [10:26:32] <topfs2> great, preserve buffer didn't seem to drag down fps anything noticably
  • [10:26:49] <topfs2> I guess its just the boot.scr with more mem it will need then
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  • [11:03:07] <new2bb> hi all,
  • [11:03:59] <new2bb> 1 question, can we access boot variables, say bootargs or sme other variables from linux kernel??
  • [11:04:34] <av500> you can acces the kernel command line
  • [11:05:34] <new2bb> does that mean i can do setenv bootargs from linux kernel?
  • [11:05:57] <av500> no
  • [11:06:15] <av500> and why would you ever want that
  • [11:07:58] <new2bb> i mean if in case, i want to bootup board from some other location with different uImage, say at some location which needs to be set at the boot prompt,
  • [11:08:19] <new2bb> so if i set it frm linux kernel just reboot
  • [11:08:52] <new2bb> will boot it up, need not to do setenv and need not to stop at boot prompt
  • [11:09:04] <new2bb> just auto boot will work without boot count
  • [11:09:44] <new2bb> av500, is it possible???
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  • [11:20:55] <favor_linux> hello
  • [11:21:37] <favor_linux> I cannot read a file which is larger than 4M
  • [11:21:56] <favor_linux> could anyone give me some ideas
  • [11:23:59] <favor_linux> open("filename", O_RDONLY)
  • [11:25:02] <favor_linux> ret = lseek(fd,0,SEEK_SET);
  • [11:25:41] <favor_linux> read(fd, buf, 64)
  • [11:25:55] <favor_linux> then I got wrong data
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  • [11:26:15] <favor_linux> but if the file is less than 4M
  • [11:26:28] <favor_linux> I can get right stuff
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  • [11:28:09] <favor_linux> can anyone help me? thanks
  • [11:35:41] <favor_linux> hi raster
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  • [12:33:05] <ogra> _koen_, do you have an XM around ? i have a weird prob with mine, booting does make it get stuck (http://paste.ubuntu.com/457777/) booting with earlyprintk gets me http://paste.ubuntu.com/457787/, have you seen something like that ?
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  • [12:42:37] <_koen_> ogra: haven't seen such a thing yet
  • [12:42:43] <ogra> :(
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  • [12:45:04] <kai> nice...
  • [12:45:08] <kai> hi folks, btw
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  • [12:45:31] <kai> the electronics store I tend to frequent now stocks beagleboards :)
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  • [13:08:41] <djlewis> the male BB's must be in heat
  • [13:09:01] <djlewis> or would that be the other way ?
  • [13:09:19] <djlewis> anyways, gm
  • [13:09:40] * av500 hands djlewis a slice of cold pizza
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  • [13:10:00] <djlewis> allright dude :)
  • [13:10:59] <rlameiro> does anyone have, or knows where to download a qemu image for the beagle board?
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  • [13:11:10] <rlameiro> i am not to secure on Xcompiling :D
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  • [13:11:19] <djlewis> but today is pot roast and veggies day :)
  • [13:11:26] <av500> rlameiro: let the compiler do it for you
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  • [13:12:34] <rlameiro> av500: :D nice joke
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  • [13:30:47] <ogra> _koen_, hmm, seems i'm missing your expansion board/i2c patch in my u-boot funny that this results in a totally locked boot
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  • [13:35:14] <djlewis1> ok, this laptop is dropping connections on wifi it seems. :(
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  • [13:36:25] <mru> djlewis1: my old laptop got worse with that over time
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  • [13:43:40] <rlameiro> can i use a normal rs232 to usb converter to acces the beagle console?
  • [13:43:56] <gustavoz> rlameiro: yes
  • [13:44:24] <rlameiro> gustavoz: thanks
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  • [13:44:35] <rlameiro> gustavoz: are you spanish?
  • [13:44:48] <gustavoz> rlameiro: from argentina
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  • [13:46:06] <rlameiro> gustavoz: usas beagle o algun clone?
  • [13:47:02] <gustavoz> rlameiro: beagle, trabajo con mistral (omap3-evm) tambien
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  • [13:47:46] <rlameiro> gustavoz: ah, es que hoy recibi mi igepv2
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  • [13:48:16] <rlameiro> gustavoz: um poco diferente de beagle, mas completa, pero con algunas diferencias
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  • [13:51:14] <siji> How to configure touch screen with Console , have installed tslib and working fine with X
  • [13:51:59] <siji> eFfeM_work, pls help me :)
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  • [13:55:57] <_koen_> opkg install tslib-test && ts_test ?
  • [13:57:21] <siji> _koen_,before that it necessary to export the deivce
  • [13:57:29] <siji> cose i have tried ts_test
  • [13:57:43] <siji> giving error that No such file or directory
  • [13:58:05] <siji> *is it necessary to export the device path ?
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  • [14:14:25] <djlewis> trying this after a network reset and on a different computer.
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  • [14:38:29] <emeb> djlewis: you pinged yesterday?
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  • [14:56:59] <_koen_> av500: because it's a wiki
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  • [14:59:15] <neweller> Has anyone ran into the usb can not be reset error 71?
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  • [15:00:12] <neweller> Have the C4 board and I thought this issue was fixed but it's driving me crazy. The mouse and keyboard goes out about every 3-5 minutes and have to unplug and reconnect to get it working.
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  • [15:01:07] <Redb3ard> I haven't seen that.
  • [15:01:19] <Redb3ard> Though, seems like it can take 5 seconds for the kb to wake up, somehow.
  • [15:01:32] <Redb3ard> I don't use a mouse, just console with Slackware 13.1.
  • [15:01:53] <Redb3ard> I have had lots of weird USB issues, though. Think it's my software load, not the board.
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  • [15:07:17] <neweller> I'm using a power usb hub and have tried a few different ones but the same result.
  • [15:07:52] <neweller> on boot screen for ubuntu / xfce the shows the usb reset error right before login
  • [15:08:31] <neweller> The problem is I need the usb hub to have network / IP but mouse and keyboard are just nice to have.
  • [15:08:50] <shenhao> Hello
  • [15:09:18] <neweller> I found where some people said this issue was a C3 issue and that is why the C4 came out but I wondering if it's the board now.
  • [15:09:22] <shenhao> Is there anyone has the experience of using OpenOCD for debugging?
  • [15:09:40] <Redb3ard> When did you get your board, and from where?
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  • [15:09:51] <Redb3ard> My understanding is that C3s haven't been sold in months.
  • [15:09:54] <neweller> SparkFun yesterday
  • [15:10:07] <Redb3ard> But then, if you got it from some third party, maybe they had old stock.
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  • [15:10:29] <Redb3ard> Down near the host usb port, what's the sticker say the rev is?
  • [15:10:39] <neweller> I made sure it was C4 before I bought the board an it has the C4 imprint
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  • [15:10:55] <Redb3ard> Dunno then, but I'm new to them myself.
  • [15:11:00] <djlewis> emeb, I see some launchpads are shipping unless I am reading lies ;)
  • [15:11:11] <Redb3ard> Hang out, maybe someone will know.
  • [15:11:28] <emeb> djlewis: cool - will be interesting to see what folks do with them
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  • [15:11:41] <emeb> I haven't heard anything on my order yet.
  • [15:11:55] <djlewis> me either
  • [15:12:15] <Redb3ard> Whats a launchpad?
  • [15:12:39] <neweller> it's like the dock from Mac OS X
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  • [15:12:54] <neweller> application alias
  • [15:13:40] <djlewis> Redb3ard, http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/MSP430_LaunchPad_%28MSP-EXP430G2%29?DCMP=launchpad&HQS=Other+OT+launchpadwiki#How_to_Get_Started
  • [15:14:50] <neweller> O my bad I thought you mean software... ya this thing is sweet. TI started this as a promo gig to get people on board.
  • [15:15:14] <Redb3ard> Nice.
  • [15:15:19] <neweller> The neat thing is it only cost $4.10 and it's similar to a arduino from what I have read.
  • [15:15:54] <neweller> for $4.10 it's worth the freakin usb cable that comes with it :)
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  • [15:18:48] <Redb3ard> That is neat. You'd be able to afford stuff like this for your kids to play with, maybe learn something.
  • [15:19:12] <neweller> Here is a nice right up from Hackaday http://hackaday.com/2010/06/22/ti-makes-a-big-bid-for-the-hobby-market/
  • [15:19:27] <neweller> TI also made a watch with this that is pimp.
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  • [15:20:01] <Redb3ard> Our company moved away from their microcontrollers and to Pic because of the lead times last year.
  • [15:20:06] <neweller> A watch with LCD, bluetooth, wifi, hart monitor, temperature, and other stuff. for $45
  • [15:20:11] <Redb3ard> I think Jeff said that they were told 14+ months.
  • [15:20:20] <djlewis> mru, different computer on wired = same problem
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  • [15:21:20] <neweller> What OS do you run on your BeagleBoard?
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  • [15:21:46] <shenhao> Is there anyone has the experience of using OpenOCD for debugging?
  • [15:22:17] <shenhao> I have problems with ftdi device
  • [15:22:44] <shenhao> The error message is divice not found
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  • [15:33:00] <djlewis> hmmm, having trouble with IP to west coast
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  • [15:36:08] <djlewis> of course my isp filters traceroute
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  • [15:36:38] <sakoman> ouch!
  • [15:36:46] <sakoman> what did I do wrong?
  • [15:37:40] <sakoman> I even went to your cube to visit you
  • [15:37:48] <sakoman> but someone went home early ;-)
  • [15:37:54] <prpplague> sakoman: you didn't tell me you were coming by
  • [15:37:57] <prpplague> sakoman: hehe
  • [15:38:21] <prpplague> sakoman: the I2C on your panda board was drawing way too much current
  • [15:38:29] <prpplague> sakoman: looks like the twl6030 has a problem
  • [15:38:30] <sakoman> heh, you guys kept me locked in a conference room for 9 hours!
  • [15:38:38] <prpplague> hehe
  • [15:38:49] <prpplague> sakoman: welcome to the world of meetings at TI
  • [15:39:01] <sakoman> they did give me 2 bathroom breaks :-)
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  • [15:39:44] <neweller> Has anyone ran into the usb can not be reset error 71?
  • [15:39:58] <neweller> Have the C4 board and I thought this issue was fixed but it's driving me crazy. The mouse and keyboard goes out about every 3-5 minutes and have to unplug and reconnect to get it working.
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  • [15:43:45] <av500> IIRC the "issue" was terminal, you had to reboot to get EHCI back
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  • [15:44:18] <djlewis> i concur with av500
  • [15:46:14] <djlewis> neweller, i suppose you tried a different hub?
  • [15:46:27] <djlewis> and hub power?
  • [15:46:33] <av500> dmesg?
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  • [15:49:09] <neweller> yes I have tried multi hubs same result
  • [15:49:21] <neweller> I know the hubs are good but
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  • [15:52:53] <ddd> anybody knows how to fix the following issue "NFS Root-NFS: Unable to get nfsd port number from server, using default"?
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  • [16:00:03] <neweller> I read this usb error was from C3 but I thought C4 fixed this so you didn't have to use the mini usb port
  • [16:00:30] <Redb3ard> Have you tried using the otg port?
  • [16:02:13] <neweller> no I was trying not to
  • [16:03:20] <neweller> is there any chance it is the OS xfce and not the board? I have ran all updates but not updated the kernel as of yet.
  • [16:03:37] <Redb3ard> It's an easy enough fix.
  • [16:03:42] <av500> neweller: dmesg
  • [16:03:51] <djlewis> hint hint
  • [16:03:54] <neweller> I used the walkthrew on elinux/beagleboard for ubuntu
  • [16:03:58] <Redb3ard> Always a chance, especially if you say its a C4.
  • [16:04:08] <Redb3ard> But it's not a problem I recognize as a linux software issue.
  • [16:05:00] <neweller> so just get a mini converter for the otg port?
  • [16:05:52] <neweller> I'm just confused if the usb port does not have power nor can handle a powered usb hub then what is it used for? I thought the otg was used for flashing the nan
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  • [16:27:08] <santiago> i have been facing issues with my EHCI on bb -- it doesn't enumerate any of the usb
  • [16:27:20] <santiago> i am connecting my devices via a usb hub
  • [16:27:48] <santiago> can anyone help me with the diagnosis -- i have tried all threads ,,, nothing seems to work
  • [16:27:53] <av500> neweller: please pastebin the output of dmesg
  • [16:27:54] <ddd> an issue "Kernel panic - not syncing: No init found. Try passing init= option to kern. Kernel panic - not syncing: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel." when bootup, what is wrong?
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  • [16:28:22] <koen> it didn't find init
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  • [16:30:48] <santiago> root@beagleboard:~# lsusb says
  • [16:30:49] <santiago> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 001 Device 002: ID 050d:0307 Belkin Components Bus 001 Device 003: ID 067b:2303 Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2303 Serial Port
  • [16:31:01] <ddd> thank you, koen, I am booting up with NFS, I put FS inside sharing folder in host pc, and booter in SD card, anything wrong? thanks
  • [16:31:26] <santiago> it means the usb hub is being detected .. but still the devices dont show up
  • [16:31:33] <santiago> can anyone help plz
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  • [16:32:58] <santiago> EHCI port issues
  • [16:33:11] <dm8tbr> santiago: pastebin the dmesg output
  • [16:33:13] <santiago> anyone else with a
  • [16:35:33] <santiago> @dm8tbr : http://pastebin.com/Zxqes3FD
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  • [16:36:00] <abhyast> santiago: What sort of issues
  • [16:36:29] <santiago> @dm8tbr : this EHCI not working on my REV 3 bb ... it cropped up suddenly .. used to work fine till now
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  • [16:37:01] <dm8tbr> santiago: there are lots of errors in your dmesg
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  • [16:37:54] <dm8tbr> maybe your sd-card is borken?
  • [16:38:16] <santiago> @dm8tbr : can that be a reason why usb devices are not recognized ?
  • [16:38:16] <abhyast> there are known hardware issues...google for ehci bb problems. have you tried the solutions available on the forum
  • [16:38:41] <santiago> yes abhyast .. i did try all of them
  • [16:39:34] <santiago> @ dm8tbr: i mean if the sd card was broken .. the board should throw an error in boottime log itself .. shouldn't it ?
  • [16:39:50] <dm8tbr> santiago: it does, that's what dmesg is
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  • [16:41:19] <santiago> @dm8tbr : thanks ... then i will straightway pick up a new card and restart the configuration all over again
  • [16:41:39] <dm8tbr> santiago: it's certainly worth trying
  • [16:41:57] <santiago> @ dm8tbr : thanx a lot .. i am a novice and was completely lost .. will get bak to you
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  • [16:42:13] <abhyast> Well it's highly likely your sd card has problems. But I would suggest you try a different linux image first. it solves many of the bb related problems
  • [16:42:18] <dm8tbr> it may or may not be related
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  • [16:46:14] <abhyast> dm8tbr: appears you are right. a list of solutions tried may be helpful in diagnosis. however the dmesg definitely is far from ok
  • [16:46:28] <ddd> when booting up, need i add "setenv bootcmd " before "mmcinit ; fatload mmc 0:1 0x80800000 uImage ; bootm 0x80800000"?
  • [16:48:51] <abhyast> ddd: sometimes yes. thats an obvious step if the booting does not proceed rightly.
  • [16:49:47] <ddd_> yeah, but i can not get init
  • [16:50:39] <abhyast> pastebin the dmesg
  • [16:52:44] <ddd_> thanks, see this http://pastebin.com/xE9xMTQ7
  • [16:53:28] <av500> not complete
  • [16:54:09] <ddd_> oh, you want above , ok
  • [16:55:47] <ddd_> Here is the complete version: http://pastebin.com/Y5KviYD1
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  • [16:57:11] <ddd_> i use NFS for booting up, but .
  • [16:57:23] <av500> ddd_: nice, now untruncated....
  • [16:57:28] <abhyast> i had the same problem once. tried a lot of things but got solved only after a tried a different linux image.
  • [16:59:01] <av500> ddd_: Linux version 2.6.24.7-omap1-arm2
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  • [16:59:13] <av500> Machine: OMAP3430 LDP board
  • [16:59:47] <ddd_> av500, but sb use the same files , which works fine
  • [17:00:57] <av500> sb?
  • [17:01:18] <ddd_> i mean friends from other department
  • [17:01:51] <ddd_> this is zoom1,
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  • [17:02:12] <av500> ddd_: yes, a labrador...
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  • [17:02:59] <ddd_> what did u mean
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  • [17:03:38] <av500> a different dog
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  • [17:04:14] <ddd_> normally, where is the init ?
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  • [17:05:39] <av500> /bin/init
  • [17:05:55] <ddd_> in filesystem?
  • [17:07:04] <av500> /sbin/init actually
  • [17:07:52] <ddd_> av500, right now, I put fs inside /home/filesystems/ folder, and using NFS, i am not sure if the location is right or not?
  • [17:08:24] <av500> I would say that depends on your NFS setup...
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  • [17:10:52] <ddd_> i add /etc/exports /home/filesystems *(rw,no_root_squash,sync,insecure,subtree_check)
  • [17:11:50] <ddd_> thanks , it seems work now
  • [17:12:42] <djlewis> heading out..
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  • [18:00:38] <santiago__> http://pastebin.com/tN8Hee4S : can anyone help me wid this dmesg output
  • [18:00:54] <santiago__> i have been facing ECHI issues
  • [18:01:35] <santiago__> the bb does not show any of the usb devices connected to the hub linked to EHCI
  • [18:02:21] <santiago__> # [ 16.361114] usb 1-2: new high speed USB device using ehci-omap and address 2 # [ 16.518676] usb 1-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice # [ 16.524871] hub 1-2:1.0: USB hub found # [ 16.528900] hub 1-2:1.0: 7 ports detected # [ 16.822296] usb 1-2.3: new full speed USB device using ehci-omap and address 3 # [ 16.949279] usb 1-2.3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice # [ 17.041046] usb 1-2.4: new full speed USB
  • [18:03:02] <santiago__> these lines show that the hub is recognised with its devices but the devices just dont get enumerated on ls /dev
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  • [18:04:51] <santiago__> some help will be appreciated
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  • [18:13:17] <mikc_> santiago__: Do you have compiled in/modules the drivers for these peripherals?
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  • [18:15:33] <ghoti> Is "uImage" the kernel?
  • [18:16:35] <santiago__> @mikc : no i didnt ... but there were no such issues prior to this day . All i use is the Angstrom demo image untarred to the rootfs
  • [18:16:59] <santiago__> and everyhthing went fine .. so as to say till today :(
  • [18:18:16] <santiago__> is there a way to check whether my EHCI has undergone a hardware failure ?
  • [18:19:03] <ghoti> I was advised last night to track down an older kernel than Angstrom/2.6.32/beagleboard, but I'm not sure what to swap out. I'm not used to poking at this level of stuff in Linux. This is a Narcissus build, so I've got a small FAT filesystem for boot, then an ext3 filesystem for everything else. How do I downgrade my kernel?
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  • [18:31:42] <neweller> So I figured out the usb not reseting issue... I guess you can not have a dc power supply and a powered hub at the same time.
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  • [18:31:59] <neweller> I just pluged the otg into the hub and now everything is fine.
  • [18:31:59] <djlewis_> sure you can.
  • [18:32:20] <djlewis_> I power mine with the DC jack and use a powered hub on EHCI and otg
  • [18:32:46] <neweller> it kept shuting down the usb hub
  • [18:33:04] <neweller> the hub would lose power about every 3 minutes
  • [18:33:16] <ghoti> djlewis_: you mentioned yesterday that I could try using an older kernel. Can you tell me where to find one?
  • [18:33:26] <djlewis_> gotta have clean 5vDC on the DC jack Positive center pin.
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  • [18:34:06] <ghoti> djlewis_: power is an issue for me too -- I've tried a zillion different 5V power supplies - it seems the only power that will let my bgb boot is coming out of a powered hub. Even my Blackberry charger is a no-go!
  • [18:34:46] <ghoti> I've tried a bunch of USB wall blocks, most of them 1A, to no avail.
  • [18:34:49] <neweller> I guess it could be the dc jack but I check the specs it is supposed to be 5v positive center
  • [18:35:04] <djlewis_> neweller: ghoti only difference might be my otg is jumpered for host
  • [18:35:07] <ghoti> Often, I'll get garbage coming out of the serial console that looks like I'm at the wrong bit rate, but it's just garbage.
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  • [18:35:19] <djlewis_> rev C2
  • [18:35:26] <ghoti> djlewis_: Is that J2?
  • [18:35:29] <ghoti> I'm on a C3.
  • [18:35:41] <djlewis_> no, i think j6
  • [18:35:48] <djlewis_> its in the trm
  • [18:37:07] <neweller> I'm C4
  • [18:37:25] <djlewis_> ghoti: yesterday I said [03:44:38] <djlewis> if so, word is that the new kernels draw more power than the otg cab deliver
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  • [18:38:05] <ghoti> djlewis_: ah yes, and then you disappeared before I could ask you why. :)
  • [18:38:24] <ghoti> I'm hoping to build something solar powered, so load is an issue.
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  • [18:41:02] <neweller> Has anyone tried quanta optical touch screen on beagle board? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1469326
  • [18:41:03] <djlewis_> I use the latest demo images from http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/
  • [18:41:12] <djlewis_> the stable ones
  • [18:41:13] <neweller> I'm about to give it ago but wanted to check
  • [18:41:32] <ds2> Morning
  • [18:41:54] <djlewis_> gm ds2
  • [18:42:11] <neweller> The Acer T23H is perfect it has a HDMI port and one powered usb for the optical touch.
  • [18:42:25] <neweller> This would make a perfect kiosk set up.
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  • [18:43:59] <ghoti> Ah, the J2 header is for measuring load on the C3. Very nice - you get .1mV per 1mA of current.
  • [18:46:29] <ghoti> djlewis_, I'm using a build I got from Narcissus. Any idea if that should be the same as what's at http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/ ? I've got 2.6.32 now, and some advice I received last night was to downgrade to avoid the USB problem.
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  • [18:47:05] <ghoti> Though, right now, I seem to be having other problems... The board seems to get past its panic, but console messages seem to indicate that it's switching to a frame buffer, and I don't get a login on serial.
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  • [18:49:07] <ghoti> djlewis_: http://pastebin.com/hz164LyC is my dmesg output that just seems to "stop".
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  • [18:56:16] <djlewis_> ghoti: I am not sure what kernel ver is coming off narcissus.
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  • [18:57:06] <djlewis_> please ask your questions to the group, I am at work and cant watchh my monitor much :(
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  • [18:58:25] <djlewis_> ghoti: if you lose serial then your bootargs might be wrong?
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  • [19:03:56] <ghoti> narcissus provided 2.6.32. I also downloaded a 2.6.32 uImage from http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/ that had a slightly different file size. Same results.
  • [19:05:32] <djlewis_> ghoti: did you replace the fs on the ext partition as well?
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  • [19:13:07] <ghoti> djlewis_: er, no, I didn't do that... I'm afraid I'm coming to all this from a FreeBSD background; I'm quite comfy slinging FreeBSD kernels and modules around, but I'm still learning the Linux basics...
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  • [19:13:56] <ghoti> I figured that replacing one 2.6.32 kernel with another 2.6.32 kernel probably wouldn't break modules or dependencies. At least, it was worth a try. :) But now I'm back to using the UIMAGE file that came with the Narcissus build.
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  • [19:16:00] <ds2> stop using all those bits that hide from you. you will never learn
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  • [19:31:52] <djlewis_> ghoti: get a spare SD or two to experiment with :)
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  • [19:52:46] <ghoti> Just trying to be strategic with my learning. There's too much to load into my brain all at once. :-/
  • [19:54:27] <ghoti> djlewis_: yup, got a whole stack of SD cards. :) What I'm missing is a background that includes knowledge of the Linux boot process. It's coming, but I'm also trying to learn OpenCV and a few other things at the same time.
  • [19:54:31] <djlewis_> ghoti: sounds old ;)
  • [19:54:49] <ghoti> ya, I guess I'm old. :)
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  • [19:55:12] * djlewis_ is oldest on channel :(
  • [19:56:13] <djlewis_> make that a :'(
  • [19:56:36] <ghoti> djlewis_, are you the mathematician?
  • [19:56:53] <djlewis_> LOL, lol, get me off the dman florr guys!!!!
  • [19:57:05] <djlewis_> that would be damn floor
  • [19:58:32] <ghoti> that would make you older than me by a few years. :) I guess I can't complain about old dogs and new tricks, then. Darn, that would have been a good excuse.
  • [19:59:44] <djlewis_> I was rofl'ing over being thought a mathmatician :)
  • [20:00:06] <djlewis_> math has not been my best friend...
  • [20:00:33] <ghoti> ah, the you're not *that* djlewis.
  • [20:01:13] <djlewis_> funny though, I been in electronics and computers most my life and people just assume that makes one a math wiz...
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  • [20:02:18] <djlewis_> well, got into electronics in 65, computers in 78
  • [20:02:38] <ghoti> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_John_Lewis - got his Ph.D in 1950.
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  • [20:03:00] <djlewis_> could have been my dad after that then :)
  • [20:03:07] <neweller> Well damn it looks like I need 2.6.34-rc4 to get the optical touch working. Anyone seen a working 2.6.34-rc for the beagle?
  • [20:04:09] <koen> TI PSP has a .34 final for beagle
  • [20:04:18] <koen> http://arago-project.org/git/people/?p=sriram/ti-psp-omap.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/OMAPPSP_03.00.02.07
  • [20:05:07] <ghoti> Is ttyS2 really the name of the onboard serial console? What are 0 and 1?
  • [20:05:37] <neweller> cool thanks koen I'll take a look
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  • [20:10:03] <ghoti> Argh; I'm getting kernel panics again, but I'm getting power from a USB cable with the data pins removed. Stack trace happens in the same place as before, after a "Process swapper" line sent to console. Is this still a power problem, or something else?
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  • [20:11:45] * ghoti looks at the loose wires on his desk and scratches his head
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  • [20:19:55] <s4wrxttcs> just a quick question before I try it
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  • [20:20:11] <s4wrxttcs> DSS2 works perfectly fine with 2.6.34 on the beagleboard ?
  • [20:20:29] <s4wrxttcs> I ask this because somehow I broke DSS2 when I updated my own kernel to 2.6.34
  • [20:20:50] <s4wrxttcs> from 2.6.33
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  • [20:25:04] <s4wrxttcs> nevermind. everything seems to be at 2.6.32
  • [20:25:17] <s4wrxttcs> at least on the beagleboard-validation
  • [20:26:10] * djlewis_ asks if the demo stable is still 2.6.29
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  • [20:44:51] <ghoti> I see some documentation recommending I load the kernel at 0x80300000, and some at 0x80000000. Why the difference? Does it matter?
  • [20:50:59] <koen> ghoti: you need to power from +5V
  • [20:51:15] <koen> ghoti: going thru the otg won't help
  • [20:51:32] <koen> that will use a different part of the TWL that is too weak
  • [20:53:33] <ghoti> Oh, hmm. And the panic is evidence that I'm not getting enough power?
  • [20:54:50] <koen> yes
  • [20:55:03] <ghoti> koen, I've tried a number of 5V power supplies, and the result is always that I see "noise" on the serial console. When I get power from USB, I see the boot loader, and usually don't get the panic if I block the data lines.
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  • [20:55:44] <ghoti> Oddly, I've even tried the 5V brick that powers my USB hub, with the same results.
  • [20:55:45] <koen> ghoti: give http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/OE/uImage-2.6.32-r80+gitra6bad4464f985fdd3bed72e1b82dcbfc004d7869-beagleboard.multi-config-cpuidle.bin a try
  • [20:56:25] <ghoti> Thanks, downloading.
  • [20:56:28] <koen> that has cpuidle enabled, so your serial will go to sleep, keep hitting space during boot to prevent that
  • [20:56:34] <ghoti> ah
  • [20:58:12] <koen> but it is supposed to work with usb powered systems
  • [20:58:18] <ghoti> So ... can I just replace my existing uimage with that file? (I'm new to this level of Linux stuff...) The system I'm using is a Narcissus build, with a uimage on a FAT filesystem, and another copy in /boot/ on the ext[23] filesystem.
  • [20:58:32] <koen> replace the uImage in the fat partition
  • [20:58:44] <koen> I'm using that exact kernel on an xM and C4 right now
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  • [20:59:55] <djlewis_> koen: this is a popular prob this week. there outa be a obvious fix link somewhere.
  • [21:00:08] <djlewis_> tnx
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  • [21:01:26] <koen> djlewis_: the problem is that it screws up serial, need to add something in userspace to fix that
  • [21:01:35] <koen> and/or try patches from TI PSP
  • [21:01:46] <djlewis_> hmmm
  • [21:02:34] <ant__> koen: finger crossed: it seems there is an imminent fix for kexec on omap3
  • [21:02:52] <Redb3ard> xM.
  • [21:02:54] <Redb3ard> :(
  • [21:03:07] <Redb3ard> koen, you work for TI?
  • [21:03:10] <ant__> topic is ARM: Disable outer cache before kexec call
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  • [21:03:34] <ghoti> koen: woot! I get further than before! Of course, now I have garbage, but it's a new problem! I get lines like this:
  • [21:03:37] <ghoti> modprobe: WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.32/modules.alias line 504: ignoring bad line starting with '.uJ+\D.o*|1ting with '}z6Z'JFo}yjB'
  • [21:04:19] <ghoti> hmm, that finished... It's proceeding to configure modules.... Very exciting...
  • [21:04:39] <ghoti> Hah, I'm up multi-user!
  • [21:04:42] <ghoti> koen, I owe you a beer.
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  • [21:05:34] <ghoti> (you'd better not collect on all the beer you're owed; we need you to keep sober for future builds...)
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  • [21:10:42] <Redb3ard> If I could get ahold of his xM, I'd deliver free premium beer to him for life.
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  • [21:15:40] <djlewis_> Redb3ard: you might simply ask for the measurements
  • [21:16:21] <Redb3ard> Meh, need a sample.
  • [21:16:29] <djlewis_> no gaurantee the final XM will be the same though, check with Gerald for that.
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  • [21:20:58] <Redb3ard> True.
  • [21:23:35] <djlewis_> Redb3ard: have you been on the google mail list to ask for the info you need?
  • [21:23:58] <Redb3ard> I've posted a few things, never got any answers there.
  • [21:25:29] * koen owes lots of people beer as well, I suspect it evens out
  • [21:26:04] <Redb3ard> Hey, here's something someone here would surely know. Which circuit board company is actually assembling the things?
  • [21:26:21] <koen> circuit co in dallas
  • [21:26:45] <Redb3ard> They're the same guys that are doing the original beagles too, then?
  • [21:26:49] <koen> well, they put it together, not sure if it also makes the pcb
  • [21:27:43] <Redb3ard> I'll tell my boss that. Would probably make more sense to get the quotes from them, if we know they can make the things and not screw it up.
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  • [21:29:25] <koen> Redb3ard: http://www.youtube.com/user/Circuitco
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  • [21:33:02] <Redb3ard> koen, without releasing any state secrets, would it be a fair assumption that there's not much markup on Digikey above the cost of making the things?
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  • [21:33:46] <koen> there's isn't a lot of profit in the $149 price for the xm
  • [21:34:03] <Redb3ard> That's what I figured.
  • [21:34:14] <Redb3ard> Just wondering what the budget will look like.
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  • [21:34:42] <Redb3ard> I mean, there's maybe $10 worth of parts that I could leave off, tops.
  • [21:34:48] <koen> depends on the quantity as well
  • [21:35:08] <koen> but we (as in beagleboard.org) don't get special pricing from TI for TI components
  • [21:35:20] <Redb3ard> We've been ordering ours in dribs and drabs. But I don't think we'll ever place orders for more than 500 at a time.
  • [21:36:02] <Redb3ard> At least not for a couple more years.
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  • [21:36:25] <koen> sadly components aren't getting cheaper
  • [21:37:17] <Redb3ard> Well, not on any timescale that helps us, anyway.
  • [21:38:27] <ds2> if you even get them :/
  • [21:39:03] <emeb> interesting factoids - a few days ago I got in a 'discussion' about the BB markups with someone.
  • [21:39:17] <Redb3ard> Well, I'm not a dumbass.
  • [21:39:29] <emeb> who was convinced that someone was raking in the clams selling BBs.
  • [21:39:30] <Redb3ard> There has to be some, just to cover the costs. No one works for free.
  • [21:39:40] <koen> lead times are crazy as well
  • [21:40:00] <ds2> and it isn't just lead times on the main conponents either :(
  • [21:40:07] <koen> and memor parts are only affordable in "non cancellable, non refundable" deals
  • [21:40:08] <Redb3ard> I just can't expect to get them much cheaper even if we make them ourselves. Even if we leave off parts we don't need ourselves.
  • [21:40:33] <ds2> someone is sitting on a pile of cash with the whole xm situation
  • [21:40:59] <emeb> ds2: as in 'unsold inventory' ?
  • [21:41:06] <Redb3ard> My boss still liked it when we were talking $150-200 for mini-ITX boards, but that's about my ceiling.
  • [21:43:34] <djlewis_> xm = $179
  • [21:43:51] <ds2> emeb: yes
  • [21:44:14] <ds2> that reminds me, i should put on my purchasing hat soon :(
  • [21:44:42] <emeb> ds2: agree - that's gotta hurt, not being able to sell xM boards & get the $$ rolling in.
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  • [21:45:48] <Redb3ard> What's the current holdup anyway?
  • [21:45:59] <ds2> amnesia
  • [21:46:31] <Redb3ard> Having watched 30 years worth of sitcoms, I know that such is an easy condition to cure, that's no excuse.
  • [21:47:18] <ds2> btw, what would you think if you saw a sign that said "Memory Clinic"
  • [21:47:39] <djlewis_> its the memory they are using that is experiencing amnesia Redb3ard
  • [21:47:46] <s4wrxttcs> is the holdup on the XM the memory issue, or something in the silicon of the OMAP?
  • [21:48:17] <koen> approx half the xMs we build work
  • [21:48:32] <djlewis_> using same silicon batches
  • [21:48:33] <djlewis_> ?
  • [21:48:46] <s4wrxttcs> I did find it amusing that someone thought beagleboard was actually raking in the clams on the beagleboard. They obviously don't design/build electronics
  • [21:48:57] <koen> the problem seems to move with the memory parts, but we're unsure what's to blame
  • [21:49:02] <emeb> too bad that the memory is POP so you can't slap a logic analyzer on and figure out what the timing problem is...
  • [21:49:25] <ds2> koen: has G verified the sanity of the power rails for the memory?
  • [21:49:26] <s4wrxttcs> and the memory is pretty much exactly the same as the C4 right? in bus speed?
  • [21:49:35] <djlewis_> put a mini=pc simm slot on it and we can stick 4G on it
  • [21:49:49] <djlewis_> mini-pc like in netbooks
  • [21:49:53] <Redb3ard> Even on commercial boards, the retail price is not much more than cost, with razor thin margins.
  • [21:50:02] <koen> ds2: iirc yes, on xM it's on a seperate LDO to account for the extra load due to 2-die memory
  • [21:50:07] <Redb3ard> Only way they ever make profit at all is that they're doing runs of 100,000 at a time.
  • [21:50:27] <djlewis_> we could put up a sign like McDonalds :)
  • [21:50:30] <koen> there are approx 20k beagles out there now
  • [21:50:41] <ds2> koen: is that LDO behaving correctly? i.e. is it oscillating or doing other nasty things that LDOs like to do?
  • [21:50:44] <Redb3ard> Yeh. There's no money in that.
  • [21:50:51] <koen> ds2: no idea on that, sorry
  • [21:50:52] <djlewis_> ooh, 20k BeagleBurgers sold
  • [21:50:53] <Redb3ard> Not without charging $500 apiece.
  • [21:51:17] <koen> ds2: I'm more focussed on the camera driver testing nowadays for beagle stuff
  • [21:51:17] <s4wrxttcs> I do think digikey is raking in the money
  • [21:51:26] <s4wrxttcs> from all the stuff people need for the beagleboard
  • [21:51:36] * emeb votes that someone send a bad xM to ds2 for debugging :)
  • [21:51:52] <Redb3ard> Might be some truth in that.
  • [21:52:04] <Redb3ard> But they're a business like everyone else, not a charity.
  • [21:53:07] <ds2> koen: good luck... have they ever gotten the driver to work reliably on the other OMAP3 boards?
  • [21:53:34] <s4wrxttcs> ds2: is there something wrong with the driver?
  • [21:53:51] <djlewis_> I'm cheering for ya koen
  • [21:54:07] <s4wrxttcs> we're using a camera on our board, and I just recently got all the ISP related patches for it together
  • [21:54:38] <s4wrxttcs> haven't had a chance to test it since the dss2 broke in the process
  • [21:54:48] <ds2> s4wrxttcs: it has been a while... it just didn't seem maintained
  • [21:55:07] <koen> ds2: the ISP driver works, it's the sensor driver that's causing trouble
  • [21:55:26] <koen> ds2: and all info from aptina is under NDA
  • [21:55:45] <ds2> koen: *nod* I followed that stuff a while under the leopard umbrella
  • [21:55:46] <s4wrxttcs> ds2: yeah, we ran into it a problem with it in capturing raw images, but we contracted it out
  • [21:55:53] <s4wrxttcs> and the person we did seems to have fixed all that stuff
  • [21:55:59] <koen> sergio thinks it might be better to stop tring to fix up the driver we received for the hw dudes and just write a new one
  • [21:56:18] <ds2> koen: do you know if the header on the XM is the same as the one on the EVM and SDP?
  • [21:56:28] <koen> it isn't
  • [21:56:34] <koen> it's the same as on the leopardboard
  • [21:56:40] <s4wrxttcs> well wait.. its a 26 pin one right?
  • [21:56:45] <koen> so the sensorboards are cheap as well
  • [21:56:50] <s4wrxttcs> the evm has the multimedia board that has a 26 pin one
  • [21:56:57] <ds2> wasn't sure if the leopard used the same as the EVM
  • [21:56:59] <s4wrxttcs> that plugs right into the leopard imaging 3.1MP camera
  • [21:57:15] <koen> LI sells different boards for both
  • [21:57:21] <koen> dunno if that's just marketing
  • [21:57:35] <koen> but I never heard that evm sensors would work on xm
  • [21:57:39] <s4wrxttcs> not sure. I haven't seen the pinout for the XM board yet
  • [21:57:47] * koen zzz now
  • [21:57:50] <koen> 'night all
  • [21:57:52] <s4wrxttcs> to see if it will work with my camera that has the same pinout as the leopard board
  • [21:58:19] <s4wrxttcs> not that I'm too worried about it. I'm sure there will be lots of sensor boards for the beagle
  • [21:59:54] <s4wrxttcs> does anyone have DSS2 working with the 2.6.34 kernel on either a beagleboard or an EVM3530 board?
  • [22:00:49] <Redb3ard> I have a really dumb question.
  • [22:00:52] <ghoti> Where can I get authoritative documentation for everything I can set in bootargs?
  • [22:00:55] <Redb3ard> What's with the camera port anyway?
  • [22:01:17] <Redb3ard> If the board has linux, and it has a usb port... isn't a webcam or just about any digital still camera simpler?
  • [22:01:22] <ds2> s4wrxttcs: works fine
  • [22:01:43] <s4wrxttcs> ds2: which git repository? the linux-omap?
  • [22:01:56] <s4wrxttcs> I'm just trying to get one up and running to debug why mine broke when going to 2.6.34
  • [22:02:04] <s4wrxttcs> from 2.6.33
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  • [22:02:42] <s4wrxttcs> red: The OMAP has an ISP that allows it to do a bunch of stuff in hardware that you'd have to do in software when using a USB webcam
  • [22:02:49] <ds2> s4wrxttcs: mine is off K-O.. I think someone else had it on L-O
  • [22:03:08] <s4wrxttcs> K-O?
  • [22:03:21] <ds2> yeah, Linus's tree
  • [22:03:34] <ds2> actually, off a tarball
  • [22:03:37] <s4wrxttcs> I'm sure it works, but I'm probably missing something
  • [22:03:48] <s4wrxttcs> so I'm just going to get it working on the beagleboard
  • [22:04:07] <s4wrxttcs> then use my board file, etc
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  • [22:04:54] <s4wrxttcs> as far as I can tell nothing changed in the dss2 stuff
  • [22:05:06] <ds2> there were some changes there
  • [22:05:28] <s4wrxttcs> but I think I applied them
  • [22:05:32] <s4wrxttcs> I'm going to double check
  • [22:05:36] <s4wrxttcs> maybe I missed something
  • [22:05:58] <s4wrxttcs> I had to apply a few patches past 2.6.33 in order to get it to work
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  • [22:06:06] <s4wrxttcs> then someone else merged it with 2.6.34 and it broke
  • [22:06:45] <s4wrxttcs> I'm just glad my board came up
  • [22:06:48] <s4wrxttcs> and didn't blow up
  • [22:07:45] <ds2> what display are you using on DSS2?
  • [22:08:02] <s4wrxttcs> 800x480 LVDS LCD
  • [22:08:06] <s4wrxttcs> I did add a panel file
  • [22:08:12] <s4wrxttcs> but I also tried it with the DVI output
  • [22:08:16] <s4wrxttcs> both work under 2.6.33
  • [22:08:20] <ds2> DVI should just work
  • [22:08:24] <s4wrxttcs> yeah
  • [22:08:32] <ds2> some panel files needed to be updated (sakoman found that)
  • [22:08:43] <s4wrxttcs> yeah, I made those changes
  • [22:09:01] <s4wrxttcs> to get 2.6.33 to work
  • [22:10:06] <s4wrxttcs> omapdss DSS error: Requested pixel clock not possible with the current OMAP2_DSS_MIN_FCK_PER_PCK setting. Turning the constraint off. omapfb omapfb: failed to allocate framebuffer omapfb omapfb: failed to allocate fbmem omapfb omapfb: failed to setup omapfb omapfb: probe of omapfb failed with error -12
  • [22:10:21] <s4wrxttcs> that's the error
  • [22:10:39] <s4wrxttcs> going to try turning on the debugging
  • [22:11:13] <s4wrxttcs> vram=16M omapfb.mode=dvi:1024x768MR-24@60 omapdss.def_disp=dvi
  • [22:11:16] <s4wrxttcs> using those settings
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  • [22:13:35] <s4wrxttcs> I know DSS2 breaks after some ARM LMB patches went in
  • [22:13:42] <s4wrxttcs> but that's well after where I'm at
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  • [22:25:30] <s4wrxttcs> I thought it was real easy to do a git log on a directory
  • [22:25:34] <s4wrxttcs> but its not showing anything
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