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  • [02:43:20] <ds2> trees are heavy!
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  • [03:01:40] <emeb> been out in the woods?
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  • [03:15:24] <ds2> emeb: no, taking care of stuff that don't grow as fast in your area
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  • [03:17:09] <ds2> and this ain't a palo verde either ;)
  • [03:17:27] <emeb> what species?
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  • [03:24:33] <ds2> mulberry
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  • [03:37:37] <emeb> Ah - some folks in the older sections of town here have mulberries. They do grow quickly, but use a lot of water so they're not common in newer developments.
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  • [03:50:02] <ds2> where's the older town?
  • [03:50:23] <ds2> I been mostly on the east side of PHX
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  • [04:00:12] <emeb> Parts of central Phoenix, South Scottsdale, Sun City/Youngtown. Mostly stuff that was built before the 70's when they stopped putting in flood irrigation to the residential neighborhoods.
  • [04:07:43] <ds2> hmmm those areas...
  • [04:13:07] <sakoman> ds2: did you ever resolve the lcd issue?
  • [04:13:22] <sakoman> (in 2.6.34)
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  • [04:17:46] <hgs> hi everyone, when i tried to play video playback using ti gstreamer video sink configured at 576P, iam getting this error "sgtable_len: sg[0] not iommu pagesize(800)", and i could see nothing on the screen
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  • [04:24:56] <_av500_> smells like isp resizer
  • [04:26:29] <ds2> sakoman: no
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  • [04:28:36] <sakoman> ds2: I never did get a chance to look at it this weekend. tomorrow . . .
  • [04:33:23] <hgs> i always getting in trouble with resizer :) https://gstreamer.ti.com/gf/project/gstreamer_ti/forum/?action=ForumBrowse&forum_id=187&thread_id=3416&_forum_action=ForumMessageBrowse
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  • [04:38:43] <ds2> sakoman: what have you eliminated?
  • [04:38:50] <buZz> hehe, DX has clones of that DSO nano scope : http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.39749
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  • [04:46:36] <hgs> _av500_: application works fine for vga and 720P...for 576P, i am requesting resize of 480x576 which are multiples of 32..could you provide me with pointers to resolve this issue...
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  • [04:58:22] <av500> buZz: gbdso ftw! http://www.ranchbots.com/GBDSO/gbdso.htm
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  • [04:59:34] <ds2> too slow for anything fun
  • [05:00:03] <ds2> I think for a little bit more, I might as well buy the oscope demo board from Luminary (TI)
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  • [05:14:27] <ppoudel> hi, I am having problem while doing #bitbake opencv. The log is at http://pastebin.com/vRjwx9U4.
  • [05:14:46] <ppoudel> Can some one suggest me the solution for this.
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  • [05:23:40] <likewise> gm
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  • [05:27:23] <eFfeM_work> koen, didn't see your msg on 0.23 as I already left. What is the problem with 0.23
  • [05:33:15] <av500> [23:06] <koen> eFfeM_work: please revert that commit and change it to add 0.23, I still need 0.22
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  • [05:37:41] <eFfeM_work> av500: I saw that one, that is in the log and that was what I reacted upon, actually wanted to say that I didn't see the msg any more yesterday evening when he sent it
  • [05:38:02] <eFfeM_work> and still wondering what is wrong with 0.23
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  • [05:39:09] <eFfeM_work> i'm happy to revert (or preferably fix) if there is an issue with it, but I would like to know the issue
  • [05:40:39] <eFfeM_work> btw and I noticed that no-one has ever built it yet for a .33 or higher kernel (at least not from scratch) as mythtv uses lirc and lirc-modules did not build for 2.6.33 and up
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  • [06:26:54] <hgs> hi all, how to enable debugging options for dmai calls made from gstreamer ti plugin??
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  • [06:30:42] <av500> CE_DEBUG=2
  • [06:30:51] <av500> export CE_DEBUG=2
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  • [06:36:46] <ppoudel> Hi av500, I am having problem with bitbake opencv. Do you have any hint regarding it. The log is at http://pastebin.com/vRjwx9U4 .
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  • [06:43:17] <likewise> ppoudel: The source directory "/media/disk/OE/build/tmp-angstrom_2008_1/work/armv7a-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/opencv-2.1.0+svnr3058-r0/opencv/-Wno-dev
  • [06:43:36] <likewise> ppoudel: something going fishy there
  • [06:43:50] <ppoudel> yes, there is no any directory like that.
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  • [06:44:49] <ppoudel> I don't have that directory inside opencv.
  • [06:46:02] <ppoudel> likewise: I thought it is something regarding cmake and tried to bitbake cmake too. It gave me similar error about -Wno-dev but it is pointing to cmake source path.
  • [06:47:18] <likewise> ppoudel: which recipe are you using?
  • [06:47:48] <ppoudel> I am using dev branch and just doing "bitbake opencv"
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  • [07:25:26] <koen> ppoudel: I just built opencv without any problems. I also updated to a newer svn revision, could you try that?
  • [07:25:31] <koen> drat, he already left
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  • [07:26:37] <av500> impatience is with the young...
  • [07:26:39] <hrw> morning
  • [07:26:45] <av500> gm
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  • [07:30:29] <koen> good morning all
  • [07:30:36] <woglinde> hi koen
  • [07:30:38] <woglinde> hi av500
  • [07:31:02] <woglinde> hm seems latest psp kernel in oe fixes my usb-problem
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  • [07:33:54] <eFfeM_work> koen what is the issue with mythtv 0.23 ???
  • [07:34:38] <woglinde> hi effem
  • [07:35:07] <eFfeM_work> hi woglinde
  • [07:35:18] <eFfeM_work> & everyone else ofc
  • [07:35:19] <koen> eFfeM_work: it's incompatible with 0.22
  • [07:35:28] <eFfeM_work> define incompatible
  • [07:35:44] <koen> does not work with 0.22 frontends/backends
  • [07:36:38] <koen> well, your initial .23 recipes would work since they would still build 0.22, but real 0.23 recipes wouldn't
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  • [07:37:16] <eFfeM_work> yeah noticed I missed editing the uri; sorry about that
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  • [07:38:13] <eFfeM_work> guess if there is a relation with external backends versions this is kind of a catch 22 situation
  • [07:38:24] <eFfeM_work> (maybe next time it will be catch 23 ;_) )
  • [07:39:11] <koen> I'm dreading upgrading mythbuntu again
  • [07:39:36] <koen> or rather, setting up newcs again to get dvb-c working with my CAM
  • [07:39:53] <koen> if it wasn't for that, I'd just wipe the HD of my ion box
  • [07:40:26] <koen> the beaglexM is quite neat as frontend for SD content
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  • [07:40:30] <eFfeM_work> hm, that does not seem to be a too good reason to deprive the rest of the world from .23
  • [07:40:33] <koen> ogra: good morning!
  • [07:40:58] <koen> eFfeM_work: what's depriving the world of .23 when both .23 and .22 are in the tree?
  • [07:42:31] <eFfeM_work> no beaglexm here, didn't even get my beagle i won with my mythtv entry in the sponsored projects program in wk 2
  • [07:42:51] <koen> pin jkridner1 on that
  • [07:43:01] <eFfeM_work> tried that several times to no avail
  • [07:43:33] <eFfeM_work> koen: probably not the world, but there are quite some angstrom users that get sw from the angstrom feed
  • [07:44:19] * eFfeM_work thought dev head was for bleeding edge stuff, and stable for those taht didn't want that
  • [07:44:50] <eFfeM_work> ah well, nevermind....
  • [07:48:01] <hgs> av500: i want to see dmai call debug messages for TIDmaiIVideoSink plugin. I guess CE_DEBUG=2 does not help me for that. I also tried export GST_DEBUG="TIDmai*:2", not helping too..
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  • [07:50:25] <av500> hgs: no idea then
  • [07:50:42] <av500> hgs: there is always #gst_ti :)
  • [07:51:57] <koen> topfs2: I talked to cory about xbmc buildsys last weeek :)
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  • [08:04:01] <topfs2> morning koen
  • [08:04:12] <topfs2> What did you discuss then?
  • [08:13:59] <koen> that we should try to fix at least the recursive configure to pass down the options
  • [08:16:36] <koen> aaargh!
  • [08:16:45] <koen> dsp-opencv is using a rules.make
  • [08:17:16] <woglinde> hm dsp-opencv
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  • [08:17:37] <koen> woglinde: the one from http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard/GSoC/2010_Projects
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  • [08:19:56] <woglinde> hm intressting
  • [08:19:57] <woglinde> lets see
  • [08:21:10] <woglinde> *sigh* why this guy dont come to #oe to self his build failures
  • [08:21:15] <woglinde> ups solve
  • [08:21:41] <koen> or to me, his gsoc mentor
  • [08:22:14] <woglinde> koen you are Luis Gustavo Lira now?
  • [08:22:17] <woglinde> *g*
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  • [08:22:55] <koen> no
  • [08:23:21] <koen> http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard/GSoC/2010_Projects is a wiki and outdated by definition :)
  • [08:24:26] <woglinde> hm I hate the ti-dsp-build system anyway
  • [08:24:37] <av500> everybody does
  • [08:26:01] <woglinde> worst part is the linker-script
  • [08:26:45] <av500> why?
  • [08:27:15] <woglinde> dont works with actual binutils
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  • [08:29:46] <topfs2> koen, yeah that would be good. I can take a look at it but tbh my autotools fu is about zilch :)
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  • [08:42:48] * koen is stumped by the -Wno-dev problem, can't reproduce it
  • [08:44:15] <woglinde> koen maybee a problem in his local.conf
  • [08:45:24] <koen> or some weird host effect
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  • [08:48:31] * koen trusts cmake as far as he can throw a piano
  • [08:49:29] <hgs> what is meant by "Output width must be 16 byte aligned for vertical resizing"??
  • [08:49:51] * topfs2 guesses koen ain't the superman so he probably can't throw it very far
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  • [08:51:15] <av500> hgs: e.g. resizing to 400x300 must be 400x304
  • [08:52:13] <av500> 16 byte = 8 pixels for YUV
  • [08:52:46] <Nilly> is it possible if i have 2 different cortex board .. both running at 600 Mhz but still i get different performance?
  • [08:53:26] <av500> depends
  • [08:53:59] <av500> but with the exhaustive information you gave it is hard to tell
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  • [08:58:08] <Nilly> i have written a simple code to test the speed of the board....http://pastebin.com/zaVw1SzR
  • [08:58:53] <Nilly> i have run this loop 10^9 time and taken the time to run this code ..
  • [08:59:50] <Nilly> it is coming drastically different on the 2 different board running at same speed ....but ofcourse one beagle and another different stalker cortex board
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  • [09:08:20] <chrisUSB> hi i recently built a new narcissus image, and tried to start playing a video using omapfplay. But the programm exits with error: lavf error -84. what could it be?
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  • [09:11:31] <av500> lavf did not want to open your file
  • [09:12:04] <chrisUSB> unsupported file format maybe?
  • [09:12:46] <av500> maybe
  • [09:12:48] <av500> what is the file?
  • [09:13:39] <av500> #define AVERROR_NOFMT AVERROR(EILSEQ) ///< Unknown format
  • [09:13:48] <av500> and thats -84
  • [09:13:53] <chrisUSB> its a avi but i realized its not playing on ubuntu as well... something seems to be wrong with the file itself; will try another file
  • [09:13:57] <chrisUSB> thx for your advice
  • [09:14:18] <av500> all I did was look into the source :)
  • [09:14:31] <av500> (open) source....
  • [09:14:44] <chrisUSB> should have done it by myself... shame on me ;-)
  • [09:15:21] <dm8tbr> teh schwartz lonestar!
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  • [09:20:31] <koen> sweet, safari can finally complete sub urls
  • [09:20:32] <chrisUSB> is it common that the beagleboard crashs when playing a 720p movie?
  • [09:20:39] <koen> like other browsers have done for years
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  • [09:21:30] <chrisUSB> kernel panic - not syncing: Fatal exception in interrupt
  • [09:21:56] <av500> depends
  • [09:22:41] <chrisUSB> kernel panic seems to be no good at all...
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  • [09:24:14] <chrisUSB> nothing that could be revised or improved?
  • [09:25:13] <woglinde> chrisusb proably ask in #gst_ti
  • [09:26:28] <chrisUSB> k
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  • [09:28:00] <woglinde> hm omapfbplay istn using dsp right?
  • [09:28:51] <av500> no dsp
  • [09:29:40] <av500> woglinde: omapfbplay is not gst at all
  • [09:29:56] <av500> chrisUSB: pastebin full log?
  • [09:31:49] <woglinde> av500 jepp
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  • [09:36:03] <chrisUSB> here it is :http://pastebin.com/NYuv4Z6S
  • [09:37:02] <av500> nice
  • [09:37:18] <chrisUSB> ?
  • [09:37:58] <av500> looks like a bug in dss fb drvier
  • [09:38:03] <av500> triggered by omapfbplay
  • [09:38:35] <chrisUSB> i wonder how you can make use of the log I provided... seems really confusing to me
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  • [09:39:33] <av500> lines 107-116
  • [09:39:39] <av500> this is the kernel backtrace
  • [09:39:56] <av500> last line is an ioctl, so something that omapfbplay calls from user space..
  • [09:41:18] <chrisUSB> nice
  • [09:41:34] <av500> [11:37] <av500> nice
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  • [09:48:44] <chrisUSB> kernel panic
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  • [09:48:54] <chrisUSB> *kernel panic#2 with different video file:http://pastebin.com/mSkaTLpR
  • [09:49:16] <koen> the omapfb ioctls changed a bit between kernel versions
  • [09:49:19] <woglinde> chrisusb maybee you want to try gstreamer-ti?
  • [09:49:25] <koen> which omapfb version and kernel are you using?
  • [09:49:32] <av500> chrisUSB: same thing
  • [09:49:43] <chrisUSB> @wogline: i was told to ask here...
  • [09:50:02] <woglinde> chrisusb I didnt meant the channel
  • [09:50:03] <av500> chrisUSB: about omapfbplay, yes
  • [09:50:11] <woglinde> I mant the software
  • [09:50:15] <chrisUSB> ok
  • [09:50:49] <chrisUSB> uname -a: Linux *** 2.6.31-22-generic-pae
  • [09:51:37] <chrisUSB> WRONG... sry
  • [09:51:48] <chrisUSB> rebooting beagle
  • [09:55:23] <chrisUSB> uname -a:Linux beagleboard 2.6.32 #1 PREEMPT
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  • [09:55:41] <av500> koen: preemt is std on BB?
  • [09:56:56] <koen> av500: I think so
  • [09:57:01] <av500> k
  • [09:57:38] <chrisUSB> koen: installed omapfbplay:omapfbplay - 0.0+r19+g
  • [09:58:15] <woglinde> hm
  • [09:58:26] <woglinde> for the psp kernel preempt isnt enabled
  • [09:59:44] <koen> CONFIG_PREEMPT=y
  • [09:59:49] <koen> I call that enabled
  • [09:59:57] <koen> that's for linux-omap-psp-2.6.32
  • [10:00:02] <koen> for beagle
  • [10:00:14] <woglinde> aeh
  • [10:00:24] <woglinde> where the config file is read from?
  • [10:01:29] <chrisUSB> sry need to leave for about 1h... will be back...
  • [10:04:46] <koen> woglinde: bitbake will tell you
  • [10:05:39] <woglinde> hm I can find it only under 2.6.32
  • [10:05:49] <woglinde> but not under the psp dir
  • [10:07:11] <woglinde> but I dont know our kernel magic foo in detail
  • [10:07:16] <koen> NOTE: Unpacking linux-omap-psp-2.6.32/beagleboard/defconfig to /OE/angstrom-dev/work/beagleboard-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/linux-omap-psp-2.6.32-r78+gitra6bad4464f985fdd3bed72e1b82dcbfc004d7869/
  • [10:07:34] <koen> woglinde: it's standard OE FILESPATH...
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  • [10:08:03] <woglinde> koen I am looking in the psp-dir
  • [10:08:22] <woglinde> ups
  • [10:08:26] <woglinde> hm
  • [10:08:56] <koen> koen@dominion:/OE/org.openembedded.dev/recipes/linux$ find . -name "defconfig" | grep beagleboard | grep psp
  • [10:08:59] <koen> ./linux-omap-psp-2.6.32/beagleboard/defconfig
  • [10:09:02] <koen> koen@dominion:/OE/org.openembedded.dev/recipes/linux$
  • [10:09:11] <koen> so there is exactly 1 defconfig for beagle in a psp dir
  • [10:09:40] <koen> I do wonder where you see that beagle has preempt disabled
  • [10:09:42] <woglinde> args
  • [10:10:06] <woglinde> damned I looked under linux-omap-psp only
  • [10:10:11] <jkridner1> eFfeM_work: really? that other Beagle never got there?
  • [10:10:39] <jkridner1> the xM's simply aren't available. I want to get them to the mentors, but getting them at all is virtually impossible right now.
  • [10:10:48] <av500> jkridner1: did u get that venc fixed?
  • [10:11:14] <koen> jkridner1: btw, jpsaman has been looking at CE support for VLC lately due to paying customers
  • [10:11:46] <av500> if it wasnt for the "."....
  • [10:11:48] <koen> jkridner1: but he had his sources in "foo.git" and guess what happened...
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  • [10:19:20] <jkridner1> av500: venc?
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  • [10:19:30] <fred_> hi
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  • [10:20:05] <jkridner1> koen: that's always great news. what happened to foo.git? Was he not keeping it on a quality server?
  • [10:20:23] <Guest30605> i need someone help about audio oss on beagleboard
  • [10:20:44] <jkridner1> Guest30605: can you use ALSA instead?
  • [10:21:22] <Guest30605> In fact I have an "old" application with is based on minimad which used oss layer
  • [10:21:47] <Guest30605> with the 2.6.29 kernel, I succeed to get sound but I hav a "pop" when the driver is released
  • [10:21:51] * Qball has some issue.. oss->alsa bridge is broken
  • [10:22:01] <Qball> pop is pretty ' normal'
  • [10:22:27] * Qball only hears popping via oss
  • [10:23:02] <Guest30605> With new kernel (2.6.32), sound is buggy (bad baudrate maybe ?)
  • [10:23:35] <Guest30605> OK, so what you tell me is that ALSA-oss is broken, so I must used alsa instead. Is that correct ?
  • [10:24:18] <Qball> hmm using alsa for me isn't an option, as it would cost me more time then I currently care to spend on it
  • [10:24:30] <Qball> but if you can, alsa is the better thing to use
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  • [10:27:20] <av500> jkridner1: xm svideo output
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  • [10:27:45] <FredNew> RE, sorry I exit by error
  • [10:28:07] <jkridner1> av500: ah, thanks for the patch! no, not yet. still a work in progress.
  • [10:28:23] <koen> jkridner1: http://gitorious.org/beagleboard-validation/linux/commits/beagleboardXM-camwork
  • [10:28:31] <FredNew> If going from OSS to ALSA is a "big" work to do, what is the other option ? (wait for oss support ?)
  • [10:28:34] <koen> jkridner1: you can't have a '.' in your PWD with bios5
  • [10:28:48] <woglinde> frednew?????
  • [10:28:52] <koen> jkridner1: since it's used as method seperator (ti.sdo.packages.foo)
  • [10:29:16] <FredNew> woglinde ? what do you mean ?
  • [10:29:30] <woglinde> why big work?
  • [10:29:50] * woglinde wonders there was oss at all for the beagle
  • [10:30:05] <av500> woglinde: alsa oss emu layer I guess
  • [10:30:11] <woglinde> av500 lol
  • [10:30:13] <woglinde> yeah
  • [10:30:18] <woglinde> okay lunch now
  • [10:30:35] <woglinde> till later
  • [10:30:58] <FredNew> Because my application is based on minimad, so I think that I have to do something to port it to alsa
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  • [10:34:39] <koen> likewise: I pushed the TI beagle camera work to http://gitorious.org/beagleboard-validation/linux/commits/beagleboardXM-camwork
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  • [10:34:51] <koen> likewise: different sensor though (3MP)
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  • [10:45:51] <likewise> koen: tnx, I hoped to get starting on the XM, but I heard it is delayed due to (silicon) issues unresolved.
  • [10:50:32] <jpsaman> koen: jkridner1: vlc source with ce support are on git.m2x.eu/vlc.git branch neuros (vlc version 1.0.2)
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  • [10:52:01] <koen> likewise: silicon and sw support
  • [10:52:18] <koen> likewise: we need to test the camera port as well before starting a new run
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  • [10:55:39] <koen> hvaibhav: in .fi already?
  • [10:56:06] <jpsaman> koen: in this repo: http://git.m2x.eu/git/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=vlc.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/neuros
  • [10:56:22] <hvaibhav> Koen:Yes I am here in Finland
  • [10:58:01] <av500> #define DAVINCI_HACK :)
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  • [11:01:32] <jpsaman> av500: that is fb.c and is actually not used by me (it is too dirty )
  • [11:02:44] <av500> :)
  • [11:03:05] <av500> jpsaman: how do you build/link vls against ti CE stuff?
  • [11:04:11] <av500> jpsaman: you work with funman on davinci?
  • [11:04:33] <jpsaman> av500: using a custom written ticel-config
  • [11:04:41] <av500> ticel?
  • [11:04:53] <jpsaman> av500: from the neuros tree
  • [11:05:15] <jpsaman> av500: still have to provide a means of linking which is more general
  • [11:05:48] <av500> but u abstract actual CE stuff away in a lib?
  • [11:05:55] <av500> and link vlc against it?
  • [11:06:00] <jpsaman> av500: yes, that is the idea
  • [11:06:18] <av500> k
  • [11:06:20] <av500> same here
  • [11:07:24] <jpsaman> I am not working with funman atm, we both have different implementations now
  • [11:07:33] <jpsaman> I guess we will need to merge someday
  • [11:07:46] <av500> ic
  • [11:08:27] <av500> what I do is to package all of dsp/packages/<vendor>/app/<app>l/package/cfg/<app>l_x470uC.xdl into a .a
  • [11:08:40] <av500> what I do is to package all of dsp/packages/<vendor>/app/<app>/package/cfg/<app>_x470uC.xdl into a .a
  • [11:10:52] <jpsaman> ah
  • [11:11:01] <woglinde> re
  • [11:11:13] <av500> jpsaman: the actuall <app> is empty
  • [11:11:23] <av500> just a main()
  • [11:11:25] <jpsaman> ;)
  • [11:11:35] <av500> so it compiles and gives the .xdl file
  • [11:11:42] <chrisUSB> I'm back with the kernel panic issue...
  • [11:11:59] <av500> don't panic!
  • [11:13:03] <jpsaman> panic=1
  • [11:13:24] <av500> jpsaman: i_panic, no?
  • [11:13:27] <chrisUSB> ok, I won't
  • [11:13:47] <jpsaman> av500: or you_panic ?
  • [11:14:07] <av500> jpsaman: just looked at vlc coding style :)
  • [11:14:45] <jpsaman> av500: I got your point ;)
  • [11:14:56] <jpsaman> just wanted to take the joke one step further ;)
  • [11:15:03] <av500> ic
  • [11:15:18] <av500> p_anic
  • [11:16:14] <chrisUSB> av500: do you have any idea what i could do?
  • [11:16:20] <av500> not atm
  • [11:16:44] <jpsaman> ;)
  • [11:16:51] <av500> try to go back to a known working setup
  • [11:17:16] <av500> [11:49] <koen> the omapfb ioctls changed a bit between kernel versions
  • [11:17:23] <chrisUSB> I did a new setup because of system hangups before...
  • [11:17:24] <av500> dunno if that is relevant
  • [11:32:48] <drakkan1000> Hi, I tryed to switch from omapfbsink to omapdmaifbsink to avoid tearing in frame by frame playback but the problem is here? Do you have any other hints?
  • [11:33:54] <woglinde> drakkan1000 #gst_ti?
  • [11:34:38] <koen> drakkan1000: AFAIK there is no accelerated double buffered output for omap3 in gstreamer
  • [11:34:55] <koen> drakkan1000: I would advice you to complain about that in #gst_ti and on the e2e.ti.com
  • [11:36:17] <av500> ask for triple buffered while you are at i...
  • [11:36:42] <drakkan1000> koen, thanks
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  • [12:46:06] <ceyusa> how do I wake up the hdmi when it goes to the "power saving mode"??
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  • [12:46:27] <ceyusa> (I don't have X)
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  • [12:59:32] <hgs> may be this echo 0 >/sys/devices/platform/omapfb/sleep_timeout
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  • [13:01:25] <koen> hmmm
  • [13:01:57] <koen> do I replace U13 on my beagle or just hardwire +5V to all usb ports?
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  • [13:11:25] <ceyusa> hgs: no sleep_timeout file :S only /sys/devices/platform/omapfb/power/wakeup
  • [13:11:34] <ceyusa> already echoed 1 there, but nothing
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  • [13:13:38] <hgs> ceyusa:echo 0 > /sys/class/graphics/fb0/blank
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  • [13:18:42] <ceyusa> hgs: wow! thanks!
  • [13:20:48] <hgs> ceyusa: thanks goes to people out here they helped me once with the same problem
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  • [13:33:01] <chrisUSB> hi, is omapfbplay stable on all your beagle-configs?
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  • [13:36:05] <new2bb> hi
  • [13:36:51] <new2bb> i build the 2.6.32 uImage, for beagle board, but it didn't work
  • [13:36:57] <new2bb> can any1 tell me
  • [13:37:02] <new2bb> is thr any dependency
  • [13:37:39] <av500> http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
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  • [13:43:18] <drakkan1000> koen, do you know another player that has double buffered output for omap3?
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  • [13:46:06] * av500 knows one, but it's neither open nor source
  • [13:46:26] <woglinde> av500 hehe
  • [13:46:30] <woglinde> which device?
  • [13:46:37] <mru> other than what?
  • [13:46:53] <av500> woglinde: google av500
  • [13:47:03] <koen> drakkan1000: if enough people on e2e.ti.com complain about lack of double buffering TI will fix it :)
  • [13:47:18] <av500> koen: define "enough"
  • [13:47:54] <koen> av500: I suspect >20k units/year
  • [13:48:02] <av500> :)
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  • [13:48:18] <av500> koen: I'll start to ask fur features there then...
  • [13:48:21] <av500> for
  • [13:48:21] <woglinde> ahahah arch..
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  • [13:50:23] <maltanar> hi all
  • [13:50:25] <drakkan1000> koen, yes I know but I need a workaround now
  • [13:51:23] <av500> implement yourself
  • [13:53:14] <koen> or contact TI rep
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  • [14:08:44] <woglinde> *g*
  • [14:08:59] <Crofton> rofl
  • [14:09:11] <woglinde> 2:0 isnt that bad
  • [14:09:14] <Crofton> how long will the madness last?
  • [14:09:14] <woglinde> gm crofton
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  • [14:09:17] <Crofton> gm
  • [14:09:23] <woglinde> crofton the wohle month
  • [14:09:29] <Crofton> heh
  • [14:09:33] <Crofton> of June
  • [14:09:43] <woglinde> yea + 2 weeks or so of july
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  • [15:16:49] <b7500af1> is there a more up-to-date version of this page: http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/downloads/list (i'm looking for the current x-loader-f)
  • [15:17:33] <av500> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/
  • [15:18:57] <b7500af1> thank you.
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  • [15:26:03] <javaJake> 0win 12
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  • [15:30:11] <hvaibhav> b7500af1:av500: There is some effort I have put to combine x-loader what PSP delivers and what beagleboard has
  • [15:30:47] <hvaibhav> So PSP releases now will work on both Beagle/Beagle-xm/OMAP3EVM/AM3517EVM platforms
  • [15:31:07] <hvaibhav> especially with x-loader
  • [15:32:19] <b7500af1> Same question.. but for u-boot-f (it isn't on the angstrom site).. and the google code site has one from feb 2009.
  • [15:32:29] <likewise> woglinde: 2:0 is three bits of soccer too much
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  • [15:33:08] <woglinde> likewise haha
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  • [15:35:49] <likewise> they enabled my new Internet service, I just got the modem from the post office, and now I have to wait for some guy who will bring the 5" coaxial cable?!
  • [15:37:43] <ogra> thats quite thick for a cable
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  • [15:39:08] <GrizzlyAdams> or quite short
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  • [15:40:39] <akumar> hi all, on angstrom, opkg update gives error.
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  • [15:43:15] <buybeagle> hey, I am working on some image processing algorithms, I am using 'creative' webcam for my project. With these webcams I am not able to control white balancing, is there any webcams which we can control white balancing? Also I am planning to buy new Beagleboard XM as it has camera header, to this header what kind of camera we can attach?
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  • [15:48:34] <koen> buybeagle: the headers attaches leopardboard style cameras
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  • [15:49:37] <woglinde> buybeagle you are aware of the gsoc cv-dsp project?
  • [15:49:49] <woglinde> ups opencv-dsp
  • [15:50:12] <buybeagle> <koen>If I am not wrong these cameras https://www.leopardimaging.com/5M_Camera_Module_Board.html.
  • [15:51:34] <koen> buybeagle: leopard imaging sells multiple versions
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  • [15:51:57] <koen> buybeagle: these work: http://designsomething.org/leopardboard/p/Accessories.aspx
  • [15:52:04] <koen> well, once the drivers get finished
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  • [16:11:02] <b7500af1> where can I find the latest uboot-f ? it isn't on the angstrom site and the google code site has an old (2009) version.
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  • [16:14:02] <jkridner1> topfs2: does pulseaudio work for you on your BeagleBoard?
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  • [16:14:29] <jkridner1> I figure you'd know, since I believe XBMC uses it.
  • [16:15:02] <topfs2> Yeah we can use it (and alsa), but tbh I haven't even plugged in the audio in it yet
  • [16:15:07] <topfs2> I can try though
  • [16:15:35] <topfs2> I would suspect it does on ubuntu atleast, not sure on ?ngstr?m
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  • [16:17:14] * mru thinks pulseaudio and work are mutually exclusive
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  • [16:21:00] <topfs2> hehe, tbh I like pulseaudio
  • [16:21:23] <topfs2> Its abit rough around the edges but it is atleast trying to solve a big problem with linux and sound
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  • [16:22:14] <jkridner1> mru: is ESD better in your view?
  • [16:22:17] * mru doesn't see a problem
  • [16:22:26] <mru> jkridner1: nice troll attempt
  • [16:22:47] <topfs2> I think you prefer alsa :)
  • [16:22:56] <mru> I simply have no need to play more than one sound at a time
  • [16:23:16] <mru> and therefor, I do not need a daemon at all
  • [16:23:28] <av500> I fail to see what is/was so wrong about 2 processes opening /dev/dsp....
  • [16:23:30] <topfs2> hehe, thats the problem with linux and sound. Also moving from one sink to another without the app knowing is a nice feature
  • [16:23:39] <mru> pulseaudio will, if you're lucky, only add latency and distort the sound
  • [16:23:40] <av500> that one had to invent 15+ user space sound mixers
  • [16:24:00] <mru> av500: cheap sound chips don't have mixers
  • [16:24:10] <av500> of course
  • [16:24:13] <mru> and mixing sound in kernel drivers is just wrong
  • [16:24:15] <av500> but the sound drvier should mix
  • [16:24:32] <mru> of course alsa dmix is even more wrong
  • [16:24:45] * notzed shudders
  • [16:24:48] <mru> if mixing is desired, a dedicated daemon should do it
  • [16:25:01] <mru> not whatever userspace process happened to open the device first
  • [16:25:07] <topfs2> yeah I agree on that, seems abit wrong for every driver to make the mixer
  • [16:25:29] <emeb> mru: same philosophy should apply to hard drives. :)
  • [16:25:36] <mru> emeb: eh, no
  • [16:25:47] <mru> it's perfectly legitimate to access multiple files concurrently
  • [16:25:49] <mru> or the same file
  • [16:25:59] <mru> why would I want to play two songs at the same time?
  • [16:26:13] <av500> mru: I can see the use case
  • [16:26:22] <topfs2> mru, but the aim with pulse audio is to have a dedicated daemon that could mix and such?
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  • [16:26:34] <jkridner1> in addition to "in-focus" audio, there are also asynchronous audible notifications.
  • [16:26:36] <emeb> mru: one song, plus OS annunciators, etc
  • [16:26:38] <topfs2> Yeah me 2. crossfade or just plain nav sounds while playing
  • [16:26:56] <topfs2> I perfectly hate crossfade but its legit IMO
  • [16:27:28] * av500 remembers arts resampling 48khz to 48khz - badly....
  • [16:27:30] <Redb3ard> Hi guys, anyone know if there are any volume pricing for the xm board?
  • [16:27:50] <av500> most ppl would prefer single volumes even atm :)
  • [16:27:51] <mru> annoying sound effects is the first thing I disable on a computer
  • [16:27:57] * notzed thinks computers shouldn't go beep to try to catch you out
  • [16:28:10] <jkridner1> Redb3ard: there is not.... but, once it they are shipping, the schematics, layout, etc will all be available if you want to make your own.
  • [16:28:12] <mru> topfs2: crossfade should be done by the player
  • [16:28:19] <av500> mru: still I would like to hear utube sound from time to time even if I play audio
  • [16:28:33] <emeb> av500: ditto
  • [16:28:33] <av500> atm, i cannot as my audio player owns the sound
  • [16:28:40] <Redb3ard> I dunno. We're doing our own Pic board right now, but the boss likes the idea of "off the shelf".
  • [16:28:51] * emeb doesn't like having to kill my sound player to watch a youtube.
  • [16:28:59] <mru> if I'm playing music, I do not want it interrupted by other random sounds
  • [16:29:00] <Redb3ard> I'm currently experimenting with nano-ITX boards, and they're power hogs at about 15 watts.
  • [16:29:21] <jkridner1> Redb3ard: there are others who make off-the-shelf boards that are nearly compatible with the original BeagleBoard...
  • [16:29:29] <av500> mru: following your reasoning we can end discussion now :)
  • [16:29:36] <Redb3ard> But I can get those for down around $100. We just have to put more solar panels on the things.
  • [16:29:37] <jkridner1> and there will soon be several that are xM compatible.
  • [16:29:43] <av500> Redb3ard: also BB is not advertised as "commercial"
  • [16:30:13] <emeb> av500: waitaminit - we haven't hit godwin yet.
  • [16:30:17] <Redb3ard> Well, maybe if the time comes, we'll see how cheap Vertek can do them.
  • [16:30:23] <jkridner1> Redb3ard: http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php?title=OMAP3_Boards
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  • [16:30:28] <jkridner1> the IGEP stands out a bit.
  • [16:30:30] <Redb3ard> We wouldn't have to populate everything that's on there now anyway.
  • [16:30:38] <jkridner1> they have 512MB of RAM....
  • [16:30:54] <jkridner1> might still be limited to 600MHz though. Not sure if they are up to 720MHz yet.
  • [16:30:57] <mru> emeb: audiophile == sound nazi?
  • [16:31:03] <emeb> bingo!
  • [16:31:04] <negril> they are
  • [16:31:07] <av500> ok, it ends now!
  • [16:31:12] <emeb> end of discussion.
  • [16:31:19] <jkridner1> I'd expect them to get to 1GHz before too long.
  • [16:31:19] <av500> back to work everybody
  • [16:31:26] <av500> there is nothing to see, move along
  • [16:31:48] <emeb> these aren't the sounds you're listening for...
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  • [16:32:03] <ppoudel> koen: I updated and try to rebuild opencv but still have the same error.
  • [16:32:37] <mru> emeb, av500: you're forgetting about 1st corollary aka Quirk's Exception
  • [16:32:43] * emeb is trying to figure out how to add a 2nd sound output device to beagle using mcbsp -> fpga...
  • [16:33:02] <emeb> mru: not forgetting - unaware.
  • [16:33:54] <emeb> wikipedia to the rescue.
  • [16:34:22] <av500> mru: jaja
  • [16:34:25] <emeb> mru: you did that on purpose. Now we need to keep arguing...
  • [16:34:25] <Redb3ard> Hell, I might be able to justify the higher cost, just because this thing has an exposed spi/i2c bus...
  • [16:34:51] <Redb3ard> We were already looking at having a custom usb device, just to hook up to some of our spi peripherals.
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  • [16:39:11] <jkridner1> remember that the unmodified BeagleBoard has those busses at 1.8V.
  • [16:39:24] <jkridner1> just don't like people to be surprised at that.
  • [16:39:51] <Redb3ard> That won't be a problem. Especially if the reference design is available.
  • [16:40:16] <jkridner1> http://beagleboard.org/hardware/design
  • [16:40:52] <emeb> Redb3ard: can also check the TCT Trainer for hints on level shifting...
  • [16:41:28] <Redb3ard> There are a few engineers here that will know how to fix that.
  • [16:42:14] <emeb> Redb3ard: main issue is that I2C is bidirectional and there are some simple/cheap parts to handle that.
  • [16:42:33] <Redb3ard> How tough is it to set up a dev environment for cross-compiling linux for this thing? Does anyone have such ready to go? It's been awhile since I tried to build a cross-compiler.
  • [16:42:41] <av500> angstrom/oe
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  • [16:43:13] <Redb3ard> I wonder if I should order a few now to start messing with, or wait for the xm.
  • [16:44:03] <topfs2> mru, well yeah I can agree that the crossfading perhaps should be done in the app but I'm more on the why not make a daemon do it 100 times better than a 100 apps do it themself. Ofcourse its hard to do it 100 times better in this regard so abit exaggerated :)
  • [16:44:07] <emeb> for HW dev a C4 works as well as an XM unless you need the new stuff on the XM
  • [16:44:33] <topfs2> For embedded uses I agree with you though, then its definatly up to the app
  • [16:44:40] <emeb> If you're just using the 28-pin expansion connector then get a head start w/ C4
  • [16:45:00] <Redb3ard> I don't really need the extra hardware, though ethernet would help. But a $10 usb-ethernet adapter should do the trick there.
  • [16:45:13] <av500> Redb3ard: and it is exactly the same
  • [16:45:18] <av500> the eth on XM is usb as well
  • [16:45:28] <Redb3ard> In production, we need the extra USB ports. But a hub will suffice for that, for testing.
  • [16:45:28] <av500> its a 4 port hub +usb eth
  • [16:45:29] <emeb> Redb3ard: yes, or just g_ether to your dev host.
  • [16:45:57] <Redb3ard> It's nice that it's on board though, is all I'm saying. That's pretty practical for what we're doing.
  • [16:46:15] <emeb> no arguing that - onboard eth will be handy.
  • [16:46:30] <emeb> get a switch, set up a farm!
  • [16:46:52] <Redb3ard> Haha. I bet these CPUs wouldn't be bad for servers.
  • [16:47:18] <Redb3ard> Serving up even a dynamic web page is pretty simple, it's not like most server farms are crunching physics simulations now days.
  • [16:47:30] <emeb> you could do some damage with a "Beowulf cluster of Beagles."
  • [16:47:39] <emeb> hmmm "Beaglewulf"?
  • [16:48:23] <mru> beaglewolf
  • [16:48:34] <woglinde> only with dsp support I guess
  • [16:48:51] <av500> depends
  • [16:49:12] <av500> 512 atoms in a rack: http://venturebeat.com/2010/06/13/seamicro-drops-an-atom-bomb-on-the-server-industry/
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  • [16:49:23] <Redb3ard> Yeh, I was reading that just earlier.
  • [16:49:27] <emeb> av500: I was just thinking of that.
  • [16:49:28] <woglinde> power efficencie would be intressting
  • [16:49:30] <dm8tbr> now that's what I call a mighty rack ;)
  • [16:49:40] <Redb3ard> But my atom nano-itx boards still draw 12-16 watts.
  • [16:49:52] <dm8tbr> the reg reported something around 2kW for the full rack
  • [16:49:56] <av500> these board look more integrated
  • [16:50:01] <av500> these boards look more integrated
  • [16:50:17] <emeb> 8x atoms+mem per board.
  • [16:50:32] <emeb> 64 boards + switch fabric
  • [16:50:40] <av500> 4) profit
  • [16:50:50] <negril> and the new chipset minus the grafix and other periphericals
  • [16:51:24] <emeb> and all they can think of to do with it is serve up web pages...
  • [16:52:01] <av500> emeb: more like "waiting to serve web pages"
  • [16:52:10] <emeb> heh
  • [16:52:41] <Redb3ard> Well, for anything more intensive, you're probably better off with something more robust, no?
  • [16:52:47] <woglinde> hm on the beagle you might even use the sgx for numbercrunching
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  • [16:53:39] <woglinde> cambridge labs made a ipac cluster once upon a time
  • [16:53:45] <woglinde> ups ipaq
  • [16:53:46] <woglinde> sorry
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  • [18:15:28] <koen> ppoudel: mail the problem to the gsoc list
  • [18:15:49] <ppoudel> koen: ok
  • [18:16:10] * koen wonders why the suspend blocker mails have stopped
  • [18:16:23] <koen> did someone implement mail blockers?
  • [18:16:23] <av500> blocked?
  • [18:16:29] <Crofton|work> rofl
  • [18:16:36] <dm8tbr> or suspended the discussion?
  • [18:16:37] * Crofton|work was also wondering that
  • [18:16:41] <ds2> when god speaks, people listen?
  • [18:16:50] <av500> torvalds spoke
  • [18:17:42] <dm8tbr> my _law_ lecturer is a linux fanboi. Going to finland after graduation earned me major bonus points with him. ;)
  • [18:18:28] <ds2> your light weight antitank weapon lecturer is a linux fan boi?
  • [18:18:39] <ds2> or is there another reason why law is underlined?
  • [18:18:50] <av500> ds2: wouldnt want to rely in winCE for a weapon...
  • [18:18:57] <av500> on
  • [18:19:04] <ds2> av500: those must be for export use ;)
  • [18:19:19] <av500> do you want to activate your weapon now?
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  • [18:22:35] <cbrake> sakoman: any breakthroughs with 2.6.34/LCD support?
  • [18:23:19] <ds2> cbrake: how is it not working in .34? i.e. have you probed any of the signals to see if anything is coming out at all?
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  • [18:28:52] <cbrake> ds2: nothing is coming out
  • [18:29:06] <ds2> cbrake: you mean just visually?
  • [18:29:17] <cbrake> ds2: if set the bootloader to use the DVI display, then I see something on the display
  • [18:29:37] <cbrake> ds2: no, I scoped the pix-clock, etc -- nothing
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  • [18:29:57] <ds2> cbrake: Hmmmm interesting datapoint (I am looking at the same problem for my board)
  • [18:30:06] <cbrake> ds2: same bootloader/hw works fine with 2.6.33
  • [18:30:20] <ds2> cbrake: yes;soemthing happened in .34
  • [18:30:44] <cbrake> ds2: guess I could do a bisect, but then the overo patches would be kind of a pain to handle during bisect
  • [18:31:11] <ds2> cbrake: it is not likely to be overo specific; I don't have those patches
  • [18:31:51] <cbrake> ds2: ok, good to know
  • [18:32:35] <ds2> cbrake: I'd look into the DSS stuff
  • [18:32:58] <ds2> it might want something else... I see my enable lines setup correctly but no video output
  • [18:34:41] <cbrake> ds2: guess its time to spend some quality time with the datasheet
  • [18:34:56] <ds2> cbrake: which datasheet?
  • [18:35:50] <cbrake> ds2: OMAP3
  • [18:36:07] <ds2> cbrake: I think that might be overkill
  • [18:36:36] <ds2> esp. given that it is over 1000 pages
  • [18:36:38] <cbrake> ds2: yes, it might be -- perhaps diffs in the dss driver directory might be faster ..
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  • [18:36:47] <ds2> yes
  • [18:36:47] <cbrake> ds2: yeah, the OMAP datasheet is daunting ...
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  • [18:37:07] <ds2> cbrake: you got a tree with all of it in git? the tree I am messing with is not in git at the moment :/
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  • [18:38:01] <qwert> hi there, who create the demo file in link: http://www.elinux.org/BeagleBoard_Zippy2? The files are http://www.elinux.org/images/e/e6/UImage-zippy2.bin and http://www.elinux.org/images/0/0a/U-boot-zippy2.bin
  • [18:38:51] <qwert> the image and u-boot in above links work fine, but I need the source and config file that are used to create uImage
  • [18:39:26] <qwert> Also where can I get the source code to compile the u-boot.bin in above link? Thanks,
  • [18:39:35] <Redb3ard> Oh wow. A new Unicode codeplane... it will encode the 20,000 most common english words!
  • [18:40:22] <likewise> Redb3ard: ? really?
  • [18:40:35] * dm8tbr only saw an emoticon proposal
  • [18:40:41] <likewise> Redb3ard: so we can start learning chinese?
  • [18:40:51] <Crofton|work> http://www.roanoke.com/news/roanoke/wb/250320
  • [18:41:12] <cbrake> ds2: yeah, my tree is all in git
  • [18:41:26] <likewise> Crofton|work: was tracking down his wife's car?
  • [18:41:36] <Crofton|work> yeah
  • [18:42:01] <likewise> or was it a female species? then it forgot where it parked.
  • [18:42:04] <ds2> cbrake: git log drivers/video/omap2 and see if anything pops up
  • [18:42:21] * likewise notes "female species" doesn't make much sense.
  • [18:42:30] * mru wonders how those bears compare to swedish bears
  • [18:43:51] <Crofton|work> in .de they would have shot it :)
  • [18:44:37] <ds2> bear sausage?
  • [18:45:27] <av500> Crofton|work: only problem bears
  • [18:45:38] <Crofton|work> They shot Bruno :(
  • [18:45:44] <koen> shot from a helicopter
  • [18:45:55] <koen> oh wait, that's alaska, not germany
  • [18:46:10] <Crofton|work> we all have our skeletons
  • [18:46:53] * koen tries to reminder the persons he ranted about cmake being stupid at linuxtag
  • [18:47:28] <koen> Crofton|work: if you meet any ubuntu guys, mention "crosscompiling" and make a picture of the look on their faces
  • [18:47:47] <av500> "we can't"
  • [18:47:50] <koen> and ask for $10 everytime they mention "debian" as an excuse
  • [18:48:14] <koen> I think av500 enjoyed that discussion :)
  • [18:48:21] <av500> absolutely
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  • [18:48:37] <av500> koen: once linaro gets it
  • [18:48:44] <av500> koen: once linaro gets it's android head....
  • [18:48:54] * dm8tbr feels like he missed out on some fun stuff
  • [18:48:54] <koen> android head...
  • [18:48:56] <av500> it will be fun to watch android compile natively....
  • [18:48:58] <koen> with red eyes?
  • [18:49:05] <av500> sure
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  • [19:09:46] <jamuraa-wrk> wow, xMs are out to November now? :(
  • [19:09:59] <jedix> xMs = 512mb?
  • [19:10:33] <jamuraa-wrk> the beagleboard-xM
  • [19:10:51] <jedix> which is the 512mb version, rgiht?
  • [19:10:57] <jamuraa-wrk> yea 512mb, and the different pinouts
  • [19:11:08] <av500> jamuraa-wrk: november?
  • [19:11:15] <jamuraa-wrk> that's what digikey says
  • [19:11:19] <av500> graaah
  • [19:11:35] <av500> if digikey says it xmas in june you will believe it?
  • [19:11:57] <jamuraa-wrk> well I'm hoping it's not the case
  • [19:12:00] <jedix> remember rememeber the fifth of november
  • [19:12:35] * dm8tbr remembers september that never seemed to end
  • [19:12:36] <jedix> av500: that's crazy.. everyone knows xmas is in july.
  • [19:12:52] <av500> works for me
  • [19:13:01] <jamuraa-wrk> that'd be nice, xmas in july
  • [19:13:01] <jamuraa-wrk> :)
  • [19:13:06] <koen> av500: http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/images/beagledroid.png
  • [19:14:36] <av500> poor little droid
  • [19:14:54] <jedix> he had it commin, look at those evil eyes
  • [19:15:26] <jamuraa-wrk> there's something unsettling, the droid should be more surprised I think
  • [19:15:40] <koen> droids have feelings?
  • [19:16:37] <jedix> according to the flaming lips, yes.
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  • [19:21:51] <av500> koen: http://imagebin.ca/view/rT82NSl.html
  • [19:22:09] <aszpain> Always I do some kind of high memory/cpu usage I get my BB frozen... today I have ordered a better power supply 5V 2.5 A for feeding my wireless usb wifi and my webcam.. do u think thats enough with 2.5 A? when u get your BB frozen... can the lack of MEMORY freeze the BB? whats the common cause of getting your BB frozen?
  • [19:22:37] <ds2> define frozen
  • [19:22:54] <av500> not liquid
  • [19:23:16] <aszpain> keyboard and mouse doesnt respond, and I have a running application with dynamic text.. the text frozes too
  • [19:23:36] * dm8tbr tries to sublimate his device
  • [19:23:38] <aszpain> alls that I see stop running
  • [19:24:39] <av500> aszpain: what does it do before freezing
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  • [19:24:47] <dm8tbr> aszpain: do you have console output?
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  • [19:24:59] <aszpain> intensive cpu/memory process
  • [19:25:35] <aszpain> what process? ffmpeg encoding and send it via wifi... so my webcam and my usb wifi usage are high...
  • [19:25:44] <koen> av500: cutr
  • [19:25:46] <koen> ehm
  • [19:25:48] <koen> cute
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  • [19:26:09] <aszpain> yes, but I get no error it just frozes
  • [19:26:42] <aszpain> Once you put the image of an angstrong demo ... do u usually add swap memory?
  • [19:26:44] <av500> aszpain: what BB rev?
  • [19:26:48] <aszpain> C2
  • [19:27:00] * av500 guesses EHCI issue
  • [19:27:11] <aszpain> ????
  • [19:27:16] <aszpain> I use an usb hub
  • [19:27:22] <aszpain> with 4 ports
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  • [19:27:44] <av500> sure
  • [19:28:07] <aszpain> EHCI is the normal USB slot right? and the other mini USB is EHCI too?
  • [19:28:19] <av500> no, musb
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  • [19:28:33] <aszpain> ?? whats musb?
  • [19:29:23] <aszpain> so perhaps if I try the other mini USB I get rid of the problem?
  • [19:30:04] <aszpain> I dont have the mini USB converter now...and I dont want to avoid the problem, I want to face it... How can I solve that EHCI problem?
  • [19:30:13] <aszpain> is a soft or hardw problem?
  • [19:31:42] <aszpain> besides... once I boot angstrong I get only 154K of free memory... can the lack of memory freeze the BB whiout giving to u any error?
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  • [19:35:35] <cbrake> ds2: well, there is a few changes between 2.6.33 and 2.6.33 in regards to OMAP2 video: http://pastebin.com/ZKq2GJkT
  • [19:36:38] <dm8tbr> aszpain: if you run out of memory the kernel will invoke the OOMkiller
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  • [19:37:52] <djlewis_> aszpain: the c2 will chug along with almost no free mem.
  • [19:38:14] <djlewis_> the ehci port, as suggested, can freeze things
  • [19:38:28] <Ceriand|work> "free" memory in linux is somewhat deceptive
  • [19:38:29] <djlewis_> there is a capacitor addon that helps some boards.
  • [19:38:42] <djlewis_> Ceriand|work: right
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  • [19:38:50] <Ceriand|work> the total available memory is the free+cached+buffers
  • [19:38:54] <dm8tbr> especially if you don't look at cache
  • [19:39:35] <djlewis_> Ihave loaded my c2 pretty heavily and not had a "out of memory' issue.
  • [19:39:35] <Ceriand|work> and it can even squeak a little more by paging out the user space binaries
  • [19:39:43] <djlewis_> well other than my own memory ;P
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  • [19:43:38] <aszpain> so the EHCI problem is a hardw related one?
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  • [19:44:35] <djlewis_> aszpain: I think it was narrowed down to noise on a power rail.
  • [19:45:22] <dm8tbr> hence the capacitors to fix it
  • [19:45:32] <djlewis_> aszpain: the cap does not remedy all affected boards, only some.
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  • [19:47:02] <aszpain> omg so theres no solution :(
  • [19:47:18] <aszpain> Does it happens on C3?
  • [19:48:29] <djlewis_> I believe the c$ is the fixed one
  • [19:48:32] <djlewis_> c4
  • [19:49:27] <djlewis_> no solution? to repeat myself, iit helps some of the affected boards.
  • [19:50:00] <aszpain> Will TI refund my money and give me a C4? :) lol
  • [19:50:12] <djlewis_> i'll second the lol
  • [19:51:10] <aszpain> well ok lets try the capacitator thing... can u explain a little bit more how may I use the capacitator, where .. own many capcacoity etc?
  • [19:51:40] <aszpain> own= how
  • [19:51:43] <djlewis_> there is the suggested fix on the google beagleboard list.
  • [19:52:39] <aszpain> list? u mean NEWS how do I acces to the "list"?
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  • [20:00:59] <aszpain> hmm yeah! I have read something: it happens to me... when I try to download large files... it frozes too... does it sounds to you? is the EHCI problem another time?
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  • [20:18:23] <djlewis_> aszpain: mine acts differently at times. I have watched a 1 hour mpg movie off a usb to pata adapted harddrive
  • [20:18:50] <djlewis_> sometimes it seems to depend on the kernel.
  • [20:18:57] <djlewis_> I have not added the cap to my C2 yet.
  • [20:22:32] <aszpain> it depends on kernel? i haVE 2.6.29 should I try 2.6.31?
  • [20:22:58] <mru> I'd go for .32
  • [20:23:33] <aszpain> hmmm but are you sayng that is something new about the EHCI driver in 32?
  • [20:23:43] <mru> no, but .32 is generally stable
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  • [20:24:09] <djlewis_> No. just saying my usb lockup seems caused by more than a single thing.
  • [20:25:48] <aszpain> Some people get its BB frozen with: dd if=/dev/zero of=/media/zeros bs=1024 count=1000000 and it doesnt fails for me I was able to write the whole file... does it means something?
  • [20:27:39] <djlewis_> aszpain: http://markmail.org/message/vmkjsxvq32avgrsy
  • [20:27:50] <djlewis_> just scroll down the discussion
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  • [20:28:02] <aszpain> ty
  • [20:33:26] <aszpain> can the mini usb hold an USB hub? will my webcam work on it?
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  • [20:39:17] <GrizzlyAdams> da
  • [20:40:24] <_av500_> aszpain: the musb is another can of worms
  • [20:40:33] <_av500_> for this one, blame ti fully
  • [20:41:45] * koen blaims mentor
  • [20:43:33] <aszpain> :(
  • [20:45:24] <aszpain> well perhaps there are less worms in that can.. or just "tameable" ones :)
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  • [20:54:41] <ds2> cbrake: what is the parent of this tree? K-O or L-O?
  • [20:55:52] <sakoman> cbrake: just started looking at the lcd issue
  • [20:56:31] <ds2> sakoman: do you know if his tree is K-O or L-O based?
  • [20:58:39] <aszpain> sakoman do your cool images solve the EHCI lock problem? :)
  • [21:00:15] <sakoman> ds2: I suspect cbrake's are L-O
  • [21:00:42] <ds2> sakoman: blah... the tree I am looking at is K-O based so that'd suggest a much wider problem :(
  • [21:00:48] <sakoman> aszpain: which board rev do you have?
  • [21:01:25] <aszpain> C2 friend
  • [21:01:32] <sakoman> ds2: doing a test build right now
  • [21:02:10] <sakoman> aszpain: I doubt that my images would fix the EHCI issues since they were HW related
  • [21:02:30] <sakoman> you could try the capacitor fix to see if it improves things
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  • [21:04:03] <aszpain> I cant cause I will lose all WARRANTY on the board, eheheheh
  • [21:05:10] <sakoman> not sure, but I seem to recall that you can return the board and the Beagle hospital would do the mod
  • [21:05:17] <_av500_> koen: u had 5ys to do that
  • [21:05:57] <cbrake> ds2: what is K-O/L-O?
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  • [21:08:12] <aszpain> sakoman.. beagle hospital?^that issue is like a cancer... I will try a Raeki quack :)
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  • [21:10:05] <sakoman> cbrake: kernel.org (i.e mainline) and linux-omap (i.e Tony's git)
  • [21:13:01] <cbrake> sakoman: ahh, yes. I'm using your git tree, so that is linux-omap I assume
  • [21:13:30] <sakoman> cbrake: correct
  • [21:13:35] <cbrake> sakoman: I'm getting set up here with one system running 2.6.33 and one .34 so I can start dumping registers
  • [21:13:45] <cbrake> sakoman: but about out of time for today
  • [21:14:42] <sakoman> I have a build underway -- we'll see if my changes fix anything :-)
  • [21:16:23] <Crofton|work> why does the kernel suddenly decide to recompile all the modules
  • [21:16:28] <sakoman> cbrake: how much longer will you be around?
  • [21:16:34] <Crofton|work> hmm, maybe it was my screwing with rebase ....
  • [21:16:37] <cbrake> minicom: cannot open /dev/ttyUSB17 -- anyone else run into this with USB serial adapters connected to workstation?
  • [21:16:48] <cbrake> sakoman: I'll be here till 6PM EDT
  • [21:16:52] <cbrake> 45 minutes
  • [21:17:08] <sakoman> OK, you'll be around for the build results :-)
  • [21:17:21] <sakoman> just another few minutes
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  • [21:19:59] <SA__> Hi, has anyone here got comedi to work on the BB?
  • [21:20:31] <djlewis_> everyone here is a comedian ;)
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  • [21:22:40] <SA__> Hmm, I need to build comedi from source but it needs the kernel source, and I am not sure how to get this in Angstrom.
  • [21:23:51] <sakoman> cbrake: first build borked due to a typo :-(
  • [21:23:57] <sakoman> trying again . . .
  • [21:24:19] <cbrake> running minicom as root gets around the above minicom error ...
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  • [21:26:14] <aszpain> where is the /var/log/message or dmesg file in angstrong distro?
  • [21:30:38] <MostAwesomeDude> Use the dmesg command.
  • [21:31:24] <aszpain> I want realtime outputing dmesg
  • [21:31:40] <buZz> watch 'dmesg | tail'
  • [21:31:43] <aszpain> because my BB frozes at some concret time
  • [21:32:27] <buZz> asspain: see my command ;)
  • [21:32:46] <aszpain> buzz it just outputs dmesg 1 time nothing else
  • [21:33:01] <buZz> you didnt type the full command then
  • [21:33:10] <buZz> the command is : watch 'dmesg | tail'
  • [21:34:03] <aszpain> watch??
  • [21:34:05] <aszpain> k
  • [21:34:28] <buZz> watch (1) - execute a program periodically, showing output fullscreen
  • [21:35:10] <dm8tbr> cat /proc/kmsg
  • [21:35:21] <sakoman> cbrake: well, my first theory didn't pan out, back to the drawing board . . .
  • [21:35:26] <dm8tbr> but kernel messages should show up on the primary console anyway
  • [21:36:06] <aszpain> cool buzz ty that works
  • [21:36:07] <buZz> unless you run a syslog
  • [21:36:12] <buZz> aszpain: np ;)
  • [21:36:31] <aszpain> can u configure watch with... lets say 0.5 sec ?
  • [21:36:35] <aszpain> each 0.5
  • [21:36:39] <buZz> man watch
  • [21:36:47] <aszpain> no man here :(
  • [21:36:52] <aszpain> but ok Il l gogle
  • [21:36:52] <buZz> watch --help
  • [21:36:53] <buZz> :)
  • [21:37:00] <aszpain> true
  • [21:37:11] <buZz> answers are everywhere
  • [21:37:47] <aszpain> yeah you only have to open your mind to accept them ... lol
  • [21:38:35] <buZz> ;)
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  • [21:40:31] <aszpain> omg
  • [21:40:39] <aszpain> now I got the EHCI error
  • [21:41:05] <aszpain> it says: ehci-omap : force-halt; handshake d85d6855586 02300223
  • [21:42:27] <aszpain> that was the last error, the first ones said that all my USB devices went away....
  • [21:42:36] <aszpain> :( I have the EHCI plague
  • [21:43:23] <emeb> MostAwesomeDude: hey - how goes the LADSPA stuff?
  • [21:44:01] <MostAwesomeDude> emeb: I discovered that, if I nuke PA, my Atom board is totally fast enough to run my code.
  • [21:44:25] <emeb> PA?
  • [21:44:28] <MostAwesomeDude> It's actually only at 5% of the total (theoretical) processing capacity per frame, so I could add even more effects. :3
  • [21:44:32] <emeb> pulseaudio
  • [21:44:32] <MostAwesomeDude> PulseAudio.
  • [21:44:52] <emeb> yep - we had a big discussion about userspace mixer daemons this morn
  • [21:44:52] <MostAwesomeDude> Yeah. It was adding roughly 0.7s of latency to my audio out.
  • [21:44:53] <buZz> pulseaudio teh sux
  • [21:45:03] <MostAwesomeDude> PA is fine on machines that have the power to do it.
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  • [21:45:21] <MostAwesomeDude> It's a big improvement over ESD, JACK, aRts, etc.
  • [21:45:21] <djlewis_> aszpain: so it seems you do.
  • [21:45:31] <MostAwesomeDude> But on an Atom, it's too much.
  • [21:45:33] <buZz> i fail to see any improvement :)
  • [21:45:39] <emeb> yep - works fine on my x86_64 system
  • [21:45:41] <MostAwesomeDude> And I wish Fedora wouldn't install it by default.
  • [21:45:55] <MostAwesomeDude> buZz: You clearly never had to fight with ESD. :3
  • [21:46:07] <buZz> i used esd a couple of years
  • [21:46:14] <emeb> too bad someone can't come up with a lightweight yet high-quality sol'n to mixing
  • [21:46:15] <buZz> moved to alsa when it came out
  • [21:47:49] <MostAwesomeDude> There isn't a way to do advanced mixing without some kind of overhead, either in quality, memory use, or CPU.
  • [21:48:11] <MostAwesomeDude> And as long as PA stays out of kernel space, I think it'll be fine.
  • [21:48:38] <emeb> could do it in the c64x on beagle. :)
  • [21:50:01] <aszpain> areu tryng LIVE video?
  • [21:50:07] <ds2> sakoman: do you concur that when things are not working, the DSS driver is convinced it should not be clocking out data?
  • [21:50:13] <muriani> only thing I really used esd for was to stream audio from my server to a headless embedded client hooked to me stereo
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  • [21:50:20] <aszpain> did u get 0 latency?
  • [21:50:23] <muriani> worked like a champ
  • [21:51:04] * emeb has a little shuttle atom system on the bookshelf next to the stereo running mpd
  • [21:51:12] <aszpain> are u using DSP?
  • [21:51:33] <ds2> emeb: and is that thing overheating? ;)
  • [21:51:53] <muriani> I ran mpd and esd on the server, and then esd on the embedded box for receivign the audio and output
  • [21:51:55] <emeb> ds2: nope - happy as a clam. Why?
  • [21:52:17] <ds2> emeb: it is x86 and you are in an elevated temperature environment ;)
  • [21:52:47] <emeb> ds2: in AZ we have this thing called Air Conditioning. Without it we'd all die.
  • [21:52:51] <muriani> it was somewhat convoluted, the music was on a NAS, server was an old dual xeon machine that handled all the transcoding, and the efika for playback
  • [21:53:08] <muriani> or the server would run an icecast stream
  • [21:53:22] <muriani> or I could output to the htpc via ESD as well
  • [21:53:37] <muriani> hmmm... that's a thought for a beagle project...
  • [21:53:42] <emeb> granted, I'm a cheapskate so my office sits at ~85F this time of year, but the computers seem to survive.
  • [21:53:56] <muriani> replace the dual xeon box >_<
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  • [21:55:01] <emeb> muriani: sounds convoluted. my atom machine has all the mp3 locally. Also works as a CVS & git repo
  • [21:55:15] <muriani> yeah
  • [21:55:27] <muriani> I was just using what I could easily set up
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  • [21:55:43] <muriani> the nas is freebsd (freenas), the xeon ran linux
  • [21:55:46] <sakoman> cbrake: I got the lcd working again
  • [21:56:10] <muriani> was easier jsut to set all the interface stuff up on the linux machine
  • [21:56:16] <muriani> since it was web server and such anyway
  • [21:56:17] <sakoman> the lcd panel driver needed some tweaks to match some changes in DSS2
  • [21:56:29] <emeb> sakoman: how many goats did you have to sacrifice?
  • [21:56:32] <muriani> was a sweet setup when I had it working though
  • [21:56:44] <cbrake> sakoman: excellent news!
  • [21:56:53] <muriani> my own little homegrown squeezebox setup
  • [21:57:13] <ds2> sakoman: nifty... any details on the changes? (don't matter as I am using your panel drivers... but I am curious)
  • [21:57:15] <emeb> muriani: sounds pretty nice.
  • [21:57:27] <sakoman> cbrake: http://pastebin.com/nbW0yVdU
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  • [21:57:40] <muriani> emeb: yeah, until the xeon died
  • [21:57:42] <muriani> heh
  • [21:58:13] <ds2> sakoman: #@@#%#@$%@%@#$#!@#!@#!@
  • [21:58:18] <sakoman> cbrake: I'll incorporate the changes in my omap3-2.6.34 branch -- prepare for a rebase :-)
  • [21:58:19] <emeb> oh well - excuse to buy more HW
  • [21:58:31] <sakoman> ds2: why are you cussing at me?
  • [21:58:52] <ds2> sakoman: not you...just an interjection
  • [21:59:00] <sakoman> ah, OK :-)
  • [21:59:17] <sakoman> it seems I waste an hour or two every time dss2 changes :-)
  • [21:59:27] <emeb> is it just me or does that LCD change seem very subtle?
  • [21:59:31] <ds2> sakoman: there is a good reason why I prefer my nice and well worn 2.6.29
  • [21:59:48] <ds2> sakoman: so are you pushing it up stream anywhere?
  • [21:59:56] <sakoman> ah, but life on the bleeding edge pays the bills :-)
  • [22:00:08] <ds2> depends on who's paying
  • [22:00:21] <ds2> some folks need a working product more then bleeding edge
  • [22:00:26] <sakoman> ds2: yes first to my git repo, then to linux omap after it is rebased on top of tree
  • [22:01:16] <sakoman> at least cbrake can go home knowing his issue is solved :-)
  • [22:01:22] <ds2> sakoman: okay... I'll grab your diffs and put them in manually until your version gets pushed fully
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  • [22:01:59] <sakoman> emeb: the fixes always seem simple once you find them
  • [22:02:21] <emeb> sakoman: been there.
  • [22:02:25] <ds2> I suspected some thing like this but I didn't see any changes for any of the other boards either so I discarded that idea...didn't expect the panel drivers themselves needed the change :(
  • [22:02:28] <emeb> forehead slapping time
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  • [22:03:15] <ds2> it seemed odd that sysfs never actually agreed that the display was enabled
  • [22:03:38] <sakoman> well, on to the next isue :-)
  • [22:03:59] <emeb> there's always another.
  • [22:04:33] <sakoman> yeah, a good thing for business :-)
  • [22:05:04] <emeb> "no problems, just opportunities" - cliche, but true.
  • [22:05:48] * emeb has many opportunities.
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  • [22:11:22] <muriani> emeb: couldnt' afford to buy new hardware, heh
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  • [22:12:04] * djlewis_ lives off hand me downs and dumpster diving :(
  • [22:12:21] <djlewis_> that sounds much worse than i intended ;)
  • [22:12:26] <muriani> haha
  • [22:12:27] <buZz> hehe
  • [22:12:32] <muriani> I know how that goes
  • [22:12:33] <buZz> djlewis_: nothing wrong with that ;)
  • [22:12:47] <buZz> hand-me-downs = pretested products
  • [22:13:04] <djlewis_> one way to see it ..
  • [22:13:05] <buZz> dumpster diving = forced shortpath recycling
  • [22:13:27] <djlewis_> no offense on China, BUT.. I have a new theory...
  • [22:13:36] <emeb> dumpster diving is an honorable pursuit
  • [22:14:02] <buZz> both the way of nature
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  • [22:14:13] <emeb> djlewis_: what's your new theory?
  • [22:14:15] <djlewis_> they have found a really innovative way to make their landfill look like product for the rest of the world to absorb...
  • [22:14:31] <emeb> that would explain all the lead paint.
  • [22:15:17] <djlewis_> and short life span of product
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  • [22:17:30] * djlewis_ refuses to give the location of his most productive dumpster :-X
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  • [22:18:22] <djlewis_> the time of day when we got lots of entering and leaving of the room.
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  • [22:30:09] <muriani> my workplace used to be a rather productive dumpster
  • [22:30:21] <muriani> I've got all sorts of goodies stashed under my desk
  • [22:30:28] <muriani> mostly useless, but still nifty!
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  • [22:31:35] <emeb> my garage is full of what were once cool things. Now, years later not so much...
  • [22:31:51] <emeb> Luckily, goodwill here isn't picky.
  • [22:31:58] <ds2> heh
  • [22:32:05] <ds2> they get rather busy at the end of the year
  • [22:33:13] <emeb> as folks rush to make tax writeoffs?
  • [22:33:33] <djlewis_> i have a smorgasboard of fine useless electronics stuff
  • [22:33:44] <djlewis_> no one wants it but me
  • [22:36:16] <djlewis_> hard to take perfectly good working 17" - 21" Tube monitors, scsi scanners beds, dozens of DAT drives etc to the dump
  • [22:36:36] <djlewis_> is anyone drooling yet :)
  • [22:36:50] <ojn> Nope, not hard at all. well, taking them for recycling
  • [22:37:01] <ojn> I'm in a major purging phase right now. :)
  • [22:37:06] <ojn> (selling house)
  • [22:37:19] <djlewis_> I made a big move in 96 and purged.
  • [22:38:04] <djlewis_> but these things always say, please take me home with you.
  • [22:42:45] <emeb> it is useless to be a resistor.
  • [22:45:23] <djlewis_> so I have been assimillated?
  • [22:45:44] <emeb> probably more a mutual process.
  • [22:45:52] <MostAwesomeDude> It's true. We should accept impeding change, and have the capacitance for charging forward.
  • [22:47:38] <djlewis_> hehee
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  • [22:48:21] <djlewis_> Ok, then I'll become one with the ElectroMotive Force . . .
  • [22:48:38] <MostAwesomeDude> I was waiting for somebody to say "*impending change." :3
  • [22:50:08] <ds2> I still use a scsi scanner
  • [22:50:27] <djlewis_> I have four older HPs in great shape
  • [22:51:37] <djlewis_> scsi scanners, that is
  • [22:55:52] * djlewis_ should gut the scanners and sell the innards for makerbot parts :)
  • [22:59:29] <emeb> inkjet printers - great source of steppers & gears.
  • [22:59:45] <emeb> lord knows there are enough dead inkjets floating around.
  • [23:00:00] <djlewis_> let me think, how many inkjets do I have...how many have I gutted...
  • [23:00:10] <djlewis_> :)
  • [23:01:01] <djlewis_> emeb: and the print head guide bar is closer to a makerbot size xyz movement part
  • [23:01:34] <djlewis_> colour me gone for a while. Heading home.
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  • [23:50:35] <djlewis> back
  • [23:51:52] <nerxgas> hello
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  • [23:55:33] <ds2> I'm willing to buy inkets that will handle 11x17 or bigger paper
  • [23:55:36] <ds2> =)
  • [23:56:09] <djlewis> and I let a 72" wide printer get by..
  • [23:56:58] <djlewis> maybe smaller, one of those huge cad printers