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  • [00:33:43] <emeb> (for reference: http://www.amazon.com/Pubic-Fruit-Curve/dp/B000008ERJ )
  • [00:35:04] <emeb> I've got no idea if that stuff would grow here - might be too dry.
  • [00:38:25] <ds2> that can't be a sufficient limitation given the number of lawns and swimming pools I see
  • [00:40:12] <emeb> well, yeah. Irrigation doesn't seem to be an issue.
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  • [00:40:48] <emeb> I checked wikipedia - looks like rambutans don't like temps < 10C. It often gets colder than that here.
  • [00:42:20] <ds2> Hmmm
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  • [00:46:21] <emeb> Next thing to try on BB is to see if I can setup McBSP3 as another audio channel.
  • [00:46:45] <emeb> Route that as I2S through the FPGA to a codec.
  • [00:46:48] <ds2> what CODEC/device will you be putting on there?
  • [00:47:26] <emeb> I've got a Cirrus CS4344 audio DAC for starters: http://members.cox.net/ebrombaugh1/synth/audiodac/index.html
  • [00:48:20] <emeb> Once I prove that out, I've got some Wolfson codecs to support I/O, but I'd need to make a new board for them.
  • [00:48:46] <ds2> what about trying a QSLIC?
  • [00:48:55] <ds2> and them popping asterisk on there
  • [00:49:13] <ds2> and maybe perhaps getting the DSP to do DTMF detection
  • [00:49:28] <emeb> Interesting idea - probably worth looking into.
  • [00:49:42] <emeb> I bet setting BB up as a PBX would be workable.
  • [00:50:12] <ds2> the McBSPs are prefect for the TDM bus thing they use
  • [00:50:25] <emeb> I'd like to try routing McBSP through the DSP for SDR stuff, but it would make sense for telephone stuff too.
  • [00:51:51] <ds2> the interesting SDR stuff requires a fancy ADC and preamps
  • [00:52:28] <emeb> I've got a not-so fancy ADC, preamp, filter & DDC already built up.
  • [00:52:38] <ds2> how high do you go?
  • [00:52:53] <ds2> that you have tested...
  • [00:53:11] <emeb> 80kHz - 25MHz is the input BW. The ADC samples at 80MHz.
  • [00:53:27] <emeb> Haven't tested it out yet tho.
  • [00:53:36] <ds2> goes back to my 'interesting stuff' qualification
  • [00:54:00] <emeb> What's interesting to you?
  • [00:54:09] <ds2> DC to daylight coverage
  • [00:54:13] <ds2> any mode, any band
  • [00:54:24] <emeb> That's a bit more of a challenge.
  • [00:54:38] <emeb> I'd get a USRP2 if the things weren't so @#$% expensive.
  • [00:55:22] <emeb> So this is a cheap 'feet-wet' project.
  • [00:55:42] <ds2> the spec an folks have it mostly down
  • [00:56:00] <emeb> spec an?
  • [00:56:06] <ds2> spectrum analyzer
  • [00:56:35] <ds2> if I can figure a way suck out the digital stuff...
  • [00:56:37] <emeb> yup - I've got an Agilent E4402B here that works nicely and isn't too $$$
  • [00:56:47] <ds2> is that a desktop unit?
  • [00:57:01] <emeb> yes. 9kHz - 3GHz.
  • [00:57:16] <ds2> from what I've heard they have the ADC to cover that range inside already
  • [00:58:01] <emeb> I believe they've got a 10MHz instantaneous BW with a tuner in front of it.
  • [00:58:21] <emeb> Newer ones have more instantaneous BW and less front-end tuning.
  • [00:58:50] <ds2> I think it is more than that... there is a settle time issue and that ultimately limits their sweep rate
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  • [00:59:49] <emeb> Could be, but 10MHz is the widest that their digital demod software can handle.
  • [00:59:59] <ds2> Oh I see
  • [01:00:17] <emeb> (there are all sorts of add-on SW options for signal analysis)
  • [01:00:36] <ds2> that's the advantage of a desktop version
  • [01:01:28] <emeb> a lot of new rack-mount bus-oriented stuff out there now though.
  • [01:01:33] <emeb> VXI bus, etc.
  • [01:01:55] <ds2> the portable units are so much handier
  • [01:02:58] <emeb> yup - some amazing little handheld units too.
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  • [01:32:53] <ds2> emeb: normally, when does the rainy season end for your area?
  • [01:34:26] <emeb> The main rainy time here is from mid-july thru early Sept.
  • [01:35:50] <emeb> That's summer 'monsoon' season. There are lighter rainy times in late fall & winter too, but generally not as heavy as summer.
  • [01:38:33] <emeb> ds2: rainfall info for Phx area here: http://www.fcd.maricopa.gov/Rainfall/Raininfo/raininfo.aspx
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  • [01:44:57] <ds2> it is the muggieness I am trying to figure out how to avoid
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  • [01:46:16] <mru> ds2: move to europe?
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  • [01:46:30] <ds2> mru: and move to a even less free country? :P
  • [01:46:57] <emeb> ds2: mugginess is generally done by mid Sept.
  • [01:47:13] <mru> I've heard iceland is pretty cheap since the collapse, although still not free...
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  • [01:47:29] <emeb> and lots of geothermal power!
  • [01:47:45] <mru> and volcanos!
  • [01:47:48] <emeb> I heard someone (google?) was planning to set up giant data center there
  • [01:48:10] <emeb> geothermal powered & fresh-air cooled.
  • [01:48:10] <ds2> wonder how much shorter do hard drives last with the quakes
  • [01:48:20] <mru> quakes are rare there
  • [01:48:25] <emeb> mount them on jello.
  • [01:48:33] <emeb> or use SSD
  • [01:48:53] <mru> the plates are drifting apart
  • [01:48:59] <mru> not much friction going on
  • [01:49:08] <emeb> just magma flow...
  • [01:49:14] <ds2> the volcano was causing quakes, IIRC
  • [01:49:36] <mru> I didn't hear about any major ones
  • [01:50:13] <emeb> http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/world/iceland/seismicity.php
  • [01:51:17] <ds2> I didn't say instantly destroyed hard drives!
  • [01:51:31] <mru> emeb: I find that chart most uninformative
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  • [01:51:41] <emeb> me too. :(
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  • [02:35:06] <emeb> ds2: how about this graph: http://www.climatetemp.info/usa/phoenix-arizona.html - note black line...
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  • [04:51:15] <ds2> HmmmpF
  • [04:53:22] <emeb|mac> pfmmmmh
  • [04:58:19] <ds2> a pico fmmmmh?
  • [04:59:25] <emeb|mac> :)
  • [04:59:58] <emeb|mac> more engineer humor... eg 1 megaphone = 10^12 microphones.
  • [05:01:39] <emeb|mac> btw - had some partial success adding McBSP3 to audio. Now just need to tell the sound subsystem that there's something on the other end...
  • [05:01:56] <ds2> tell?
  • [05:02:22] <ds2> I2S doesn't need acks unless you want the omap to be the slave
  • [05:02:58] <emeb|mac> True, but the kernel data structures that ALSA uses to setup the codec need to be defined.
  • [05:03:08] <ds2> ah
  • [05:03:54] <emeb|mac> Right now I've told the omap SoC code that there's a McBSP, but since I haven't defined a codec it doesn't finish setting up the full path.
  • [05:04:41] <emeb|mac> So, need to study the codec drivers to move forward...
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  • [06:33:18] <rs> unless you tell it to do so
  • [06:37:10] <tasslehoff> rs ok. I suspect maybe I should?
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  • [07:19:18] <BT> yesterday I tried 2.6.34 kernel, display is not working, "omapfb omapfb: no displays"
  • [07:19:42] <BT> is it fixed and submitted in the git?
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  • [07:23:23] <SG> I requested to join beagleboard googlegroups, still pending, who is to contact
  • [07:23:38] <hrw> morning
  • [07:23:49] <BT> hrw, morning
  • [07:24:03] <BT> hrw, which kernel you are working on
  • [07:25:26] <_koen_> SG: jkridner manages the list and he will wake up in ~5 hours from now, but will be travelling
  • [07:25:45] <hrw> BT: I am not working on kernel
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  • [07:26:37] <SG> so who can accept the my request?
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  • [07:27:00] <SG> koen, which latest kernel working ok?
  • [07:27:26] <nicobari> Ihave connected my beagleboard to via internet via USB otg but the problem is that I have to set everything up again if I power off and power on again
  • [07:27:29] <nicobari> any solutions?
  • [07:28:04] <SG> koen, I have started my own developent, let me know from where I should take my kernel
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  • [07:32:21] <_koen_> SG: I use the angstrom 2.6.32 kernel, haven't tried anything later. But sakoman reports that his 2.6.34 tree works as well
  • [07:33:16] <SG> display works ok?
  • [07:33:49] <_koen_> on .32 for sure and sakoman patched .34 to make it work as well
  • [07:34:09] <SG> yesterday, I tried 2.6.34 display was not working , some error
  • [07:34:26] <_av500_> morning
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  • [07:34:34] <SG> so from where I can take patched 2.6.34 kernel
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  • [07:38:36] <neure> hi
  • [07:41:37] <SG> someone please help, how to download angstrom 2.6.32 kernel using git
  • [07:43:23] <_koen_> gitorious.org/angstrom
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  • [07:49:30] <SG> koen, yes how to get 2.6.32 kernel, as if use http://git.gitorious.org/angstrom/angstrom-linux.git then I will latest, but how to take 2.6.32?
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  • [07:57:59] <SG> someone please let me know how to take angstrom 2.6.32 using git
  • [08:00:30] <_koen_> git clone that repo, then checkout the beagleboardXM branch (works on all beagles, not just xm)
  • [08:02:21] <SG> thanks
  • [08:02:53] <SG> koen one more Q, how to take sakoman patched .34 kernel using git
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  • [08:12:59] <_koen_> that should be on gitorious.org/~sakoman (haven't looked lately)
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  • [08:55:07] <BT> koen, sorry for asking again, display and serial keyboard working togather I have to use getty, please what chnages I have to do
  • [08:57:42] <_koen_> If you boot into angstrom you should get both
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  • [08:57:53] <_koen_> I don't know the details of your setup, sorry
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  • [09:13:07] <SG> how o enable usb keyboard?
  • [09:13:39] <SG> so after booting I can use USB keyboard, what chnages need to be done
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  • [09:15:18] <topfs2> SG wiki states you must have a HS device, i.e. you need a USB Hub inbetween then it should work
  • [09:15:29] <topfs2> atleast it does for me
  • [09:17:01] <SG> I have connected the keyboard in the USB HUB thatcomes with the board
  • [09:17:33] <topfs2> That hub only takes HS devices, you need one inbetween
  • [09:17:45] <topfs2> read beginners wiki
  • [09:17:54] <SG> in the output it says, usb 1-2.1: new low speed USB device using ehci-omap and address 5
  • [09:19:44] <topfs2> Is the keyboard plugged into the USB A of the beagleboard? directly into that port?
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  • [09:24:43] <SG> no not directly via USB HUB
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  • [09:26:10] <topfs2> then it should work afaik, then I don't know what you have done :)
  • [09:26:16] <topfs2> works perfectly here
  • [09:26:31] <SG> anything to enable
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  • [09:28:54] <topfs2> not for me, I just start linux and it worked
  • [09:29:01] <topfs2> but I've used the suggested images
  • [09:29:05] <topfs2> not sure what you've tried
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  • [09:34:37] <SG> usb 1-2.1: New USB device found, idVendor=045e, idProduct=00b0
  • [09:34:47] <SG> usb 1-2.1: Manufacturer: Microsoft
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  • [09:35:13] <SG> input: Microsoft Microsoft???? Digital Media Pro Keyboard as /devices/platform/ehci-omap.0/usb1/1-2/1-2.1/1-2.1:1.1/input/input1
  • [09:35:21] <SG> but not wrking
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  • [09:36:33] <SG> topfs2 , any clue
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  • [09:37:47] <topfs2> No clue, as said mine work and its just HID I fail to see why it shouldn't
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  • [09:40:40] <SG> any configuration needed? i am just running kernel & busybox, is that enough
  • [09:44:10] <topfs2> doubt it
  • [09:44:20] <topfs2> probably need to add the usb mod thingy aswell
  • [09:44:23] <topfs2> sure google knows
  • [09:45:18] <topfs2> unless usb drivers are compiled in, I'm far from good at telling you that ;)
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  • [10:07:32] <SG> any one knows this problem, kernel detects, the usb keyboard, but now working
  • [10:08:06] <SG> input: Microsoft Microsoft???? Digital Media Pro Keyboard as /devices/platform/ehci-omap.0/usb1/1-2/1-2.2/1-2.2:1.0/input/input5
  • [10:08:19] <SG> generic-usb 0003:045E:00B0.0006: input: USB HID v1.11 Keyboard [Microsoft Microsoft???? Digital Media Pro Keyboard] on usb-ehci-omap.0.2/input0
  • [10:08:38] <SG> but now working
  • [10:10:25] <adj> SG: btw, just to be sure: how are you observing that it's not working?
  • [10:14:15] <SG> when I type nothing is coming in the terminal
  • [10:14:39] <adj> you are watching the serial terminal and typing with usb keyboard?
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  • [10:16:35] <SG> yes
  • [10:16:58] <adj> that should not work. Serial terminal takes input from serial, not from any input device
  • [10:17:27] <SG> ok, can I ask you a Q
  • [10:17:41] <adj> go ahead
  • [10:18:44] <SG> I got suggestion that using getty I can use serial keyboard and display togethar
  • [10:19:05] <SG> when I use console=tty0, then serial keyboard not working
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  • [10:21:33] <adj> if console=tty0 is your last console parameter for the kernel, then the console will not take input from serial ("serial keyboard")
  • [10:22:00] <adj> but you can launch virtual terminals with getty
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  • [10:23:48] <adj> if you want to use DVI display and serial keyboard, hmm, that might be a bit tougher.
  • [10:24:45] <SG> yes, thats I want
  • [10:24:58] <SG> please suggest
  • [10:26:13] <adj> hmm, console=tty0 console=ttyS1
  • [10:26:29] <adj> or whatever serial port you are using
  • [10:27:04] <adj> but if you want to use serial keyboard, then why are you trying to get usb keyboard working?
  • [10:27:47] <SG> as I cant make it so I thought if usb keyb works
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  • [10:28:55] <adj> ok, anyway, you can define multiple console parameters for the kernel but only the last parameter tells the kernel from where to accept any input
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  • [11:38:08] <Crofton|work> Please give me detail procedure
  • [11:38:09] <Crofton|work> for implementation as early as possible.
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  • [11:39:57] <_koen_> Crofton|work: need help with your homework?
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  • [12:10:57] <koen> "Otherwise I'll have to ask what's the expected threshold of devices sold with broken sw design to get automatic admission into the mainline kernel source tree."
  • [12:11:30] <mru> ?
  • [12:11:52] <koen> the suspend blocker discussion
  • [12:12:01] <koen> it seems google stepped on nokias toes
  • [12:12:46] <_av500_> epic thread that is
  • [12:13:26] <mru> haven't followed it
  • [12:13:48] <_av500_> i just fired one shot on that battle
  • [12:13:59] <_av500_> err, in
  • [12:14:13] <mru> you shot the entire battle? :-)
  • [12:14:28] * mru must try that some time
  • [12:14:38] <mru> phasers to maximum spread...
  • [12:14:48] <_av500_> only torvalds has that power
  • [12:14:57] <mru> he has phasers?
  • [12:15:21] <_av500_> no, he has pragmasers
  • [12:16:03] <mru> coherent beams of #pragmas?
  • [12:16:11] <mru> that could burn a hole in any code
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  • [12:22:32] * XorA has just finished laughing at todays episode of suspect blockers soap
  • [12:24:23] <koen> it only took me an hour this morning to read up
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  • [12:25:27] <koen> _av500_: your post didn't make l-o?
  • [12:26:10] <koen> or did you mail some days ago?
  • [12:26:38] <koen> I will not show that thread to my dad, or I'll end up debugging his n900
  • [12:28:00] <XorA> :-D
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  • [13:13:45] <Crofton|work> heh
  • [13:13:53] <Crofton|work> I've just finished deleting that thread
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  • [13:36:22] <ant_work> koen: any reason for udev-(compat)-static being arch-specific while udev is machine specific?
  • [13:36:44] <ant_work> well, khem said udev shoul not be machine-specific...
  • [13:37:56] <ant_work> khem also suggested another workaround (kernel patch)
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  • [13:47:09] <cbrake> I'm having trouble booting from SD on a BB: http://pastebin.ca/1873358
  • [13:47:21] <cbrake> using latest x-load/u-boot from oe.dev
  • [13:48:27] <cbrake> seems to hang at I2C: ready -- is latest oe.dev working for anyone else?
  • [13:53:17] <aholler> cbrake: you have to use the latest x-loader (as MLO or in flash). if on sd, you have tor press the user-button on reset to use the MLO on the sd
  • [13:55:55] <aholler> and that MLO must be the first file on the SD, which means you have to format the SD before putting that MLO on the SD
  • [13:57:01] <cbrake> aholler: the user button was it -- thanks!
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  • [13:58:23] <aholler> if you clean the nand, it always try to find the MLO on the SD
  • [13:59:55] <cbrake> ahh, IC -- so it was getting the x-loader from NAND -- that was the fundamental problem. I wondered why the date was so old, so that makes sense now.
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  • [14:13:46] <yopoyo> hi, i "successfully" compiled clutter, but when i try to run any test it fails... strace tells me things like stat64("/lib/tls/v7l/fast-mult/half", 0xbeb3c228) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
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  • [14:17:31] <torpor> anyone running ubuntu-arm on their beagle? is there SGX and DSP support included?
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  • [14:17:45] <ogra> torpor, not in lucid
  • [14:17:52] <torpor> darn
  • [14:17:57] <ogra> there will likely be packages for the next release
  • [14:18:02] <torpor> i hope so
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  • [14:18:17] <torpor> i'd really like to get off angstrom, but SGX/DSP is keeping me there for now ..
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  • [14:18:51] <_av500_> koen: ca. 1w ago, and yes it made it to l-o as it made balbi angry apparently
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  • [14:56:34] <koen> katier: could you /invite me to the rpc channel? I forgot the name and I don't have access to my TI mail now
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  • [14:57:33] <maltanar> hiya everyone!
  • [14:58:41] <koen> hey maltanar
  • [14:59:01] <yopoyo> whats most likely my problem if i get some /lib/tls/v7l/fast-mult/libm.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) in a beagleboard running angstrom
  • [14:59:19] <koen> that's not a problem, that's just ldconfig probing hwcaps
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  • [14:59:46] <yopoyo> ah... well i compiles clutter without any errors
  • [14:59:55] <yopoyo> and well, it segfaults
  • [15:00:57] <yopoyo> sorry im new to this, how can i debug the problem?
  • [15:01:44] <yopoyo> or whats the recommended clutter version to use with the beagleboard?
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  • [15:19:00] <yopoyo> ok peeps, you rock, clutter 1.2.8 works now, ill write up something
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  • [15:43:28] <jedix> jkridner, koen around?
  • [15:43:40] <jedix> I'm looking for omap4 3d blob..
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  • [15:46:34] <koen> jedix: #linux-omap has more wtbu people, they are responsible for omap4
  • [15:46:51] <koen> jkridner and I are more observers of omap4 stuff in TI :)
  • [15:46:58] <jedix> lol, I'm there too
  • [15:46:59] <jedix> thanks
  • [15:47:51] <mru> isn't the answer "some sgx"?
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  • [15:51:24] <koen> sgx540
  • [15:52:15] <mru> aka not interesting
  • [15:52:19] <jedix> where would I get it though?
  • [15:52:33] <jedix> I'm grabbing the omap35xx graphics bin from ti
  • [15:52:41] <jedix> I hope that has it, but it's massive.
  • [15:52:51] <jedix> so it'll be an hour until I find out.
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  • [15:58:30] <koen> that's for 530, dunno if that will work
  • [15:58:37] * koen thinks not
  • [15:59:04] <RobotGuy> Has anyone got a Trainer board working with Beagle?
  • [15:59:11] <koen> aye
  • [15:59:26] <koen> RobotGuy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sz0erpdWtFY
  • [15:59:31] <mru> koen: the difference is <2%
  • [15:59:57] <koen> mru: yes, but IMG breaks the kernel/userspace ABI every release
  • [16:00:10] <RobotGuy> I have a question about the Trainer.. I'm interested in putting an Arduino compatible shield on it. Would the sockets line up properly on trainer?
  • [16:00:44] <koen> no idea on that, sorry
  • [16:00:52] <koen> I would try mailing TCT
  • [16:01:12] <koen> normally prpplague is here to answer such questions, but he's on holiday
  • [16:01:51] <RobotGuy> Ahhh, he has a holiday. He sure does deserve that.
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  • [19:05:27] <djlewis_> koen: 's link above tells me that he is getting closer to a new improved MakerBot :)
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  • [19:16:00] <xorAxAx> what does the USR0 blinking mean in my lucid install?
  • [19:18:14] <drinkcat> xorAxAx: cat /sys/class/leds/beagleboard\:\:usr0/trigger will tell you.
  • [19:18:34] <xorAxAx> drinkcat: heartbeat
  • [19:18:55] <aholler> cat /sys/class/leds/beagleboard\:\:usr0/trigger
  • [19:18:58] <aholler> uups
  • [19:18:59] <aholler> ;)
  • [19:19:09] <drinkcat> ,-)
  • [19:19:16] <aholler> i'm too lame ;)
  • [19:19:29] <koen> djlewis_: currently trying to get the existing software (skeinforge) tuned to my hardware before I start using the beagle as controller
  • [19:24:05] * djlewis_ was just watching a Makerbot assemble, makes me tired just watching ;)
  • [19:24:11] <djlewis_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbzJ22pfzyk&feature=related
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  • [19:33:29] <koen> box2d has a javascript version...
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  • [20:08:29] <xorAxAx> how to overclock to 600 mhz without using memory pokes in uboot?
  • [20:08:54] <_av500_> cpufreq
  • [20:09:06] <djlewis_> 600mhz would be actual full speed.
  • [20:09:45] <djlewis_> of BB < XM
  • [20:12:06] <DaveDavenport> you can put it on 720.
  • [20:12:38] <xorAxAx> av500: analyzing CPU 0:
  • [20:12:39] <djlewis_> now thats overclocking :)
  • [20:12:40] <xorAxAx> no or unknown cpufreq driver is active on this CPU
  • [20:13:40] <_av500_> get e kernel that supports it...
  • [20:14:12] <xorAxAx> _av500_: which module do i need?
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  • [20:17:13] <luanchan> Has anyone gotten an ELO touchscreen controller working on the beagleboard? Any distro, particularirly ELO's AccuTouch controller line?
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  • [20:22:57] <koen> on rev c4 the stock cpu frequency would be 720MHz
  • [20:23:19] <koen> xorAxAx: in angstrom with 2.6.32 you just do 'cpufreq-set -f 600'
  • [20:23:41] <xorAxAx> koen: here it is 500 MHz on c4
  • [20:24:42] <koen> with a recent uboot and kernel from angstrom it would be 720
  • [20:24:47] <koen> so update your stuff :)
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  • [20:32:47] <xorAxAx> i am using rcn's kernels
  • [20:32:51] <xorAxAx> not angstrom
  • [20:41:54] <koen> so bug robert :)
  • [20:42:30] <jedix> koen: so.. you were right. sgx 530 didn't work for my sgx 540
  • [20:43:18] <xorAxAx> (EE) omapfb(0): Failed to setup plane
  • [20:43:20] <xorAxAx> (EE) omapfb(0): XVScreenInit failed
  • [20:43:22] <xorAxAx> anybody an idea?
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  • [21:28:30] <Spec> I'm here for the reading-of-discussions while idling, :)
  • [21:30:16] <cwillu> fairly idle right now
  • [21:30:48] <cwillu> although you could poke p... guy who's not here right now
  • [21:30:52] <cwillu> prpsomething
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  • [21:34:54] <emeb> cwillu: hey what's new?
  • [21:35:06] <cwillu> not much
  • [21:35:15] <cwillu> recovery week :)
  • [21:35:25] <emeb> recovering from...
  • [21:35:31] <cwillu> client visit
  • [21:35:32] <mru> previous week
  • [21:35:56] <emeb> mru: sounds potentially recursive
  • [21:35:56] <cwillu> don't they realize that programmers need to be _hidden_ from customers?
  • [21:36:23] <emeb> but hiding the programmer makes it hard to get/keep customers.
  • [21:36:38] <emeb> (unless you've got someone else to do that)
  • [21:36:46] <cwillu> ya, I know
  • [21:37:17] <cwillu> really, we just need a nice case, and then we can start "mass-producing" (where mass-production consists of batches of a dozen)
  • [21:37:26] <cwillu> yay for high margins :p
  • [21:38:03] <cwillu> the boss still sees it as one-offs though, because every time he asks for one, he watches me slice up a generic project box for an hour or two
  • [21:38:03] <emeb> nice case for values of nice that mean "bullet/weather/salt/... proof"?
  • [21:38:17] <cwillu> nevermind the part where absolutely everything else is done except for the "slicing the case" bit
  • [21:38:26] <cwillu> salt-proof would be nice
  • [21:38:51] <cwillu> really, the hdmi plug is the bane of my existence
  • [21:39:00] <emeb> so in your case the programmer is also a CNC machine...
  • [21:39:05] <cwillu> exactly
  • [21:39:20] * mru once had to debug some salt-infested electronics
  • [21:39:30] <emeb> Get a Makerbot! extrude a case from hot glue (or whatever they use)
  • [21:39:52] <cwillu> emeb, been down that road, the cost of the case would double the cost of the box
  • [21:40:22] <emeb> figures (tongue in cheek of course)
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  • [21:48:47] <xorAxAx> nobody an idea?
  • [21:50:17] <DanaG> case for what?
  • [21:50:30] <DanaG> ah, the beagle?
  • [21:51:22] <DanaG> I have the specialcomp.com one... it's nice, but the tolerances are sloppy. When you put the sides on, it goes "rocking"... one pair of opposite corners is higher than the other pair.
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  • [21:52:26] <emeb> then you need squishier feets
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  • [21:53:30] <DanaG> Or they need to make it less sloppy.
  • [21:53:32] <DanaG> =??
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  • [23:14:06] <naren> hi, I have ported the kernel on beagleboard now i want to test X-server , so what I have to do.
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  • [23:21:45] <cwillu> it's amazing how many people write their own ports of the linux kernel, eh? :)
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  • [23:29:08] <emeb> the wheel, reinvented.
  • [23:29:27] <emeb> fortunately, most of the parts were already laying around.
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  • [23:34:38] <DanaG> hmm, I was copying some files from my laptop to a USB hard drive on the beagle (laptop -> musb -> ehci -> usb-hdd)... and was only getting about 2.2 megabytes per second. What's most likely the limit there? EHCI, musb, or ntfs-3g (on the hard drive)?
  • [23:35:27] <DanaG> And I got about the same speeds with both scp and samba.
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  • [23:52:58] <xorAxAx> Source image dimensions are too high: 854x480 (maximum is 720x574)
  • [23:53:08] <xorAxAx> FATAL: Cannot initialize video driver.
  • [23:53:14] <xorAxAx> anybody had that problem with mplayer?
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