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  • [00:41:42] <ds2> OT comment of the day - tires are heavy, 5 of them are even heavier :(
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  • [02:58:18] <djlewis> ds2, tires go on car, car holds tires, driver don't ;)
  • [02:59:29] <ds2> djlewis: that's all fine... tires like to be rotated
  • [02:59:53] <djlewis> ds2, you in a bad mood? Yep, I'm over due to rotate mine.
  • [03:01:52] <ds2> djlewis: no, just worn out from moving around 5 full size tires
  • [03:02:03] <djlewis> yes, they are a pain.
  • [03:02:04] <ds2> they were heavy
  • [03:02:34] <ds2> and it didn't help that I used the jack it came with to do it
  • [03:03:03] <djlewis> that and an iol change were on my todo list today but storms overrode it.
  • [03:03:15] <djlewis> s/iol/oil
  • [03:03:25] <ds2> also did that
  • [03:03:47] <ds2> oil chain was easy, wrench off, wait wrench on, add oil
  • [03:04:52] <djlewis> my deterrent is a hilly dirt and gravel and grass open air garage
  • [03:05:15] <ds2> shouldn't that be mud and grass? ;)
  • [03:05:53] <djlewis> now its mud, grass and hail
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  • [03:12:37] <djlewis> get some rest ds2 I'm heading that way now.
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  • [03:17:29] <nerxgas> i'm having an issues running the command "dhclient wlan0" can someone look at the readout of this command? http://pastebin.org/242714
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  • [04:00:19] <ppoudel> hi all, I need some help in building dsplink module. I am getting following error while building the module. include $(DSPLINK)$(DIRSEP)gpp$(DIRSEP)src$(DIRSEP)Rules.mk
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  • [04:01:01] <ppoudel> sorry, typo..the error is as follows make[1]: *** No rule to make target `modules'. Stop.
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  • [04:46:01] <koen> good morning all
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  • [04:46:19] <koen> sweet, unicode has a ???. char
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  • [04:50:45] <DanaG> yup.
  • [04:50:48] <DanaG> Running with scissors.
  • [04:50:52] <DanaG> It has an airplane, as well.
  • [04:53:51] <emeb|mac> koen: gm
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  • [05:02:22] <av500> morning boys
  • [05:04:58] <ppoudel> OE/hi...I am getting some error while building dsplink module. The error says, make[1]: *** No rule to make target `modules'. Stop.
  • [05:05:25] <ppoudel> I can build all the samples but not the module.
  • [05:07:58] <ppoudel> Any clue??
  • [05:10:27] * koen does 'bitbake ti-dsplink' and it works
  • [05:12:19] <ppoudel> koen:How do I specify the version??
  • [05:16:36] <koen> ppoudel: you don't, let angstrom choose the right version
  • [05:19:48] <ppoudel> koen:thanks, I building it the way u said
  • [05:20:37] <ppoudel> but i am still wondering why am i able to built the samples but not the modules, while building outside OE.
  • [05:26:09] <ppoudel> koen: Bitbake ti-dsplink failed. It says, NOTE: fetch http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/sources/ti_cgt_c6000_6.1.9_setup_linux_x86.bin 404 Not Found 00:23:04 ERROR 404: Not Found.
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  • [05:32:20] <koen> did you read the error above that?
  • [05:32:36] <koen> where it says you need to download cgt yourself?
  • [05:33:31] <koen> see recipes/ti/README
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  • [05:39:32] <ppoudel> thanks, I will do that
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  • [07:04:39] <mobidev> hi to all
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  • [07:12:17] <hrw> morning
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  • [07:14:25] <hrw> _koen_: any official infos about pandaboard progress?
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  • [07:19:00] <neurre> hi
  • [07:19:26] <neurre> do sdhc cards work on beagle?
  • [07:20:52] <hrw> neurre: yes, they do
  • [07:21:17] <neurre> ah good
  • [07:21:27] <neurre> my 2GB card is pretty full :/
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  • [07:23:04] <_koen_> hrw: not from, that's another department
  • [07:23:09] <_koen_> s/from/from me/
  • [07:24:22] <hrw> _koen_: ok
  • [07:24:40] <hrw> _koen_: name was given during SoC: OMAP3/4 session at UDS-M
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  • [07:36:10] <_koen_> hrw: I wonder why they choose a nearly extinct species
  • [07:36:42] <av500> hmm, where did I just read "pre-deprecated"
  • [07:37:43] <hrw> _koen_: ;)
  • [07:42:02] <koen> hmmm
  • [07:42:13] <koen> I have vendor patched bootloaders
  • [07:42:17] <koen> OMAP34xx/35xx-GP ES1.0, CPU-OPP2 L3-165MHz
  • [07:42:30] <koen> I'm on 36xx/37xx damn it!!!
  • [07:42:35] <koen> s/have/hate/
  • [07:42:36] <hrw> ;d
  • [07:42:49] <DaveDavenport> crucify!
  • [07:43:22] <koen> Now I'm left to wonder why my 'own' uboot based on denx + sakoman detects the cpu correctly, but the TI one doesn't...
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  • [07:43:44] <av500> koen: the TI one fell from the wrong "tree"
  • [07:44:01] <koen> I guess so
  • [07:44:10] <koen> it seems to have the 37xx stuff inside
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  • [07:49:57] * _koen_ asks the TI uboot dudes for help
  • [07:57:57] <nlCortana> good morning, i'm still having problems using the DSP on the beagle, and i'm getting almost desperate on it.
  • [07:58:35] <av500> don't
  • [07:58:36] <nlCortana> Even the dsp-link examples won't run properly. Does anybody please want to take a look at this: http://pastebin.com/DwFUZ7da
  • [07:59:11] <av500> at least your error msg are getter more sophisticated...
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  • [08:00:41] <nlCortana> yes, it is. I asked a few weeks ago to get easy started on dsp. They adviced me to run narcissus. But it isn't yet cooperating.
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  • [08:02:49] <oxy_> hello, i need some help with beagleboard and ubuntu
  • [08:03:20] <oxy_> can someone help me,
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  • [08:09:18] <topfs2> oxy_, its more likely you get the answer if you ask the question ;)
  • [08:10:19] <oxy_> :d
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  • [08:12:29] <oxy_> so my problem is that i've installed several image from ubuntu following the elinux/beagleboardubuntu tips, it work great but the resolution is 640x480, and when i try to install the drivers with apt-get install xserver-xorg-omap3, the files is downloaded, i restart the BB, but i never have the xorg.conf
  • [08:12:41] <oxy_> I've tried with a jaunty and a karmic
  • [08:12:53] <oxy_> so i never can change the resolution
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  • [08:22:08] <DaveDavenport> isn't resolution something you need to pass as kernel option?
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  • [08:29:04] <oxy_> i've tried to change resolution in booscript and in setenv but it never change something
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  • [09:11:34] <koen> florian: I freed 50GB on ltg, I suspect the root crontab isn't cleaning the narcissus dir properly
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  • [09:15:10] <florian> koen: yes right, did you see my reply about this?
  • [09:16:15] <koen> not sure
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  • [09:35:16] <ddd> Anybody uses Angstrom on Zoom2? Have you tried the camera to take a picture?
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  • [09:38:27] <koen> yes, and I only tested video streaming
  • [09:38:33] <koen> raster: boo!
  • [09:39:15] <raster> koen: buuuuurp
  • [09:40:09] <ddd> koen, which kernel were u using? does Angstrom FS has a UI?
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  • [09:40:44] <raster> koen: how goes man?
  • [09:43:52] <ddd> Koen, would you like explain more? does RLS23.i3.3 apply to omap3430 too? Thanks in advance
  • [09:45:43] <ddd> and seems RLS23.i3.3 uses dspbridge, but dsplink?
  • [09:48:01] <ddd> does dsplink support TI OMX ?
  • [09:50:20] <koen> raster: not bad, and you?
  • [09:50:36] <koen> ddd: I use the angstrom kernel on it, which supports dsplink
  • [09:50:49] <koen> ddd: OMX is useless, too much overhead and noone is using it
  • [09:51:03] <av500> amen
  • [09:51:32] <av500> sadly, ppl are using it
  • [09:52:08] <raster> koen: way too much shit to do
  • [09:52:14] <raster> moving can be good
  • [09:52:23] <raster> you get rid of shit - i like leaning down
  • [09:52:26] <raster> but... its a pita
  • [09:52:33] <raster> av500: av!
  • [09:52:45] <koen> raster: moving to where?
  • [09:53:19] <ddd> thanks all, koen, i mean which one are u using, dsplink or dspbridge for testing video streaming?
  • [09:54:20] <koen> I was only using mplayer to stream it to the lcd :)
  • [09:55:21] <av500> streaming as in porting?
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  • [09:58:09] <koen> no, porting is to sd
  • [09:58:28] <ddd> koen, angstrom kernel with its narcissus FS has mplayer tools?
  • [09:58:48] <av500> koen: right, as streaming is to "play video"
  • [09:59:01] <_koen_> ddd: if you included mplayer in your narcissus options
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  • [10:01:07] <ddd> thanks, koen, how to include it though?
  • [10:01:30] <ddd> i did not find that option with narcissus yet
  • [10:03:19] <koen> [ ] MPlayer
  • [10:03:25] <koen> check the checkbox :)
  • [10:05:06] <DaveDavenport> :D
  • [10:06:34] <ddd> koen, i am building in online, but i cann't find the checkbox for MPlayer, where do u build FS?
  • [10:08:39] <aholler> btw., I'm getting segfaults with the ubuntu kernel too. Having a closer look at them, it seems all the segfaults (with validation and ubuntu-kernels) are triggered through musb (I have swap on an usb-hd).
  • [10:09:18] <raster> koen: korea
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  • [10:12:38] <koen> raster: on retainer with samsung?
  • [10:13:20] <koen> ddd: it's present, you really have to look harder (or look at all)
  • [10:13:20] <raster> not sure what to call it
  • [10:13:28] <raster> its an annoual employement contract
  • [10:13:42] <av500> ddd: increase screen brightness and contrast :)
  • [10:13:45] <raster> so not external contract - but not permanent employee
  • [10:13:59] <koen> raster: fixed-term
  • [10:14:00] <raster> ie renew contract every year
  • [10:14:01] <raster> i like it
  • [10:14:13] <raster> it means they send me home if i decide not to renew
  • [10:14:14] <raster> :)
  • [10:14:30] <DaveDavenport> and you are the first to be booted
  • [10:15:06] <raster> not so easy to cancel it given the terms
  • [10:15:12] <raster> except on end of year renewal
  • [10:15:12] <koen> they are koreans, their boots are small compared to european ones
  • [10:15:31] <raster> adn that''s fine by me - they need/want me
  • [10:15:31] <ddd> av500 better to be nice, thanks
  • [10:15:36] <raster> the boots are on my shoes
  • [10:15:45] <raster> and thats how i likes ity
  • [10:15:47] <raster> :_)
  • [10:15:49] <raster> :)
  • [10:17:34] <koen> ah, .34 is out
  • [10:17:53] <av500> and what kernel rev is "in"?
  • [10:18:55] <hrw> koen: when .34 for BB?
  • [10:19:51] <av500> koen: look, symbian have their own version of DMAI, they call it SHAI: http://developer.symbian.org/wiki/index.php/SHAI/SHAI_API_Proposals/Audio_Codecs_SHAI_API_Specifications_v1.3
  • [10:22:03] <koen> hrw: dunno, waiting for TI india to unseal their git repo that has it
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  • [10:22:16] <koen> hrw: but sakomans kernel tree for .34 should work on beagle as well
  • [10:29:20] <hrw> koen: btw - can bbxm do tftpboot over onboard usb-eth?
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  • [10:47:27] <nlCortana> why do i get this warning after loading loadmodules.sh: root@beagleboard:/usr/share/ti/ti-dsplink-examples# ./ti-dsplink-examples-loadmo
  • [10:47:27] <nlCortana> dules.sh
  • [10:47:27] <nlCortana> Warning! You need to use mem=126M or less on the kernel cmdline
  • [10:47:27] <nlCortana> You have 211384kB total memory for Linux
  • [10:48:58] <av500> because cmem does not know about the "hole" I think
  • [10:51:20] <av500> nlCortana: how bout your logs with CE_DEBUG=2?
  • [10:52:41] <nlCortana> i think there has to be something wrong with the memory mapping
  • [10:53:02] <koen> there, enough solder present again
  • [10:53:13] <koen> hrw: no ehci support in uboot
  • [10:53:18] <hrw> ok
  • [10:53:43] <koen> nlCortana: because all that stuff assumes you're running it on the EVM, which has 128MB ran
  • [10:54:50] <av500> hrw: there are ehci patches for uboot
  • [10:54:56] <nlCortana> koen? when i build something with narcissus and i choose beagleboard then i hope it assumes that i'm using a beagleboard
  • [10:55:01] <av500> a corworker found them "somewhere" on the net
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  • [10:55:31] <nlCortana> or do you mean the program's still assume i have an dvevm because they are that way compiled
  • [10:55:54] <koen> nlCortana: that doesn't mean 'upstream' (TI in this case) is sane
  • [10:56:13] <koen> don't get me started on trying TI to 'support' the beagle in their releases
  • [10:56:40] * koen is starting small and teaching them to replace 'insmod' with 'modprobe' first
  • [10:56:51] <av500> koen: modprobe, what is that? :)
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  • [11:08:53] <jkridner> GSoC meeting here in 3 hours.
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  • [11:13:52] <topfs2> goodie!
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  • [11:30:27] <nlCortana> hi, when i build an image with narcissus, then cmemk an dsplink get loaded at boottime. Where is this executed.
  • [11:30:58] <nlCortana> how cn i see what the memmory mappings are with this built
  • [11:31:28] <av500> for cmem you should have a script that loads it. e.g. loadmodules.sh
  • [11:31:41] <av500> and grep should tell you the rest
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  • [11:43:41] <nlCortana> ho can i setup my oe branch to use the same git as narcissus
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  • [11:55:56] <_koen_> nlCortana: use the angstrom-setup-scripts script
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  • [12:09:01] <siji> hi all
  • [12:09:03] <siji> 'eglInitialize' returned egl error 'EGL_BAD_ALLOC' (0x3003)
  • [12:09:14] <siji> Am trying to fix this error
  • [12:09:22] <siji> with Angstrom 2.6.32
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  • [12:09:43] <siji> any idea about why its happening ?
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  • [12:12:12] <koen> probably wrong egl driver in powervr.ini
  • [12:12:20] <koen> or wrong kernel modules
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  • [12:13:45] <siji> power.ini is defined for flip buffering
  • [12:13:51] <siji> WindowSystem=libpvrPVR2D_FLIPWSEGL.so
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  • [12:14:54] <ddd> koen, does the Mplayer support H.264 stream, or MPEG4 only? I use Angstrom with Ti6.32 kernel, but the ZOOM2 screen is black, how can i diplay mplay on Zoom2 screen? THank you.
  • [12:15:29] <siji> koen, i have created the image from ur online builder and copied the pvr patch and kernel module to my old rootstock , (2.6.29)
  • [12:15:33] <siji> also uImage too
  • [12:15:53] <koen> siji: don't do that
  • [12:16:03] <siji> oh
  • [12:16:05] <siji> ok
  • [12:16:07] <koen> either use angstrom completely or don't
  • [12:16:14] <siji> ok
  • [12:16:19] <koen> don't go changing stuff without knowing what you are doing
  • [12:16:31] <siji> :(
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  • [12:52:15] <nlCortana> hi, I have got more success when executing the dsplink tests seperate: http://pastebin.com/nDFSwb7n
  • [12:52:32] <nlCortana> NOTE: i have to reset the DSP before every test
  • [12:52:46] <nlCortana> bootargs changed a little to only MEM=80
  • [12:52:54] <nlCortana> *MEM=80M
  • [12:53:06] <nlCortana> gstreamer still fails
  • [12:53:34] <nlCortana> why do i have to manually reset the dsp each time by executing the lpmON and OFF commands?
  • [13:00:55] <av500> u dont
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  • [13:05:38] <nlCortana> i have
  • [13:05:44] <nlCortana> else it gives errors
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  • [13:08:27] <av500> u should not :)
  • [13:11:05] <nlCortana> haha, i??? just poking a lot of debug information, maybe someone recognises similar problems and knows how to help me
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  • [13:15:16] <av500> can u run the one that fails with CE_DEBUG=2?
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  • [13:15:36] <nlCortana> of?
  • [13:15:47] <nlCortana> gstreamer? or ...
  • [13:15:59] <av500> of the above: http://pastebin.com/nDFSwb7n
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  • [13:26:42] <nlCortana> av500: it was on there actaully, for some reason it doenst give output when executing bash script
  • [13:26:55] <nlCortana> anyway i can't get if ailing anymore :S
  • [13:27:01] <nlCortana> (that command
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  • [13:31:20] <nlCortana> hmm, when i try harder :) http://pastebin.com/dc4bmvfK
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  • [13:33:26] <nlCortana> av500: do you see that CE_DEBUG=2 doesn't give any extra output?
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  • [13:34:25] <av500> yes, strange
  • [13:35:06] <bobkatzz> jkridner: BeagleBrick made a big splash at Hamvention 2010 - where it was called "the iPad for Hams"
  • [13:35:54] <av500> send pics
  • [13:38:28] <jkridner> bobkatzz: :)
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  • [13:40:00] <nlCortana> av500: ./mpcsxfergpp mpcsxfer.out 1024 1000 runs now, but /ringiogpp ringio.out 1024 4096 only works after a dsp reset (and visa versa)
  • [13:40:22] <av500> vice versa?
  • [13:40:24] <av500> means?
  • [13:40:42] <nlCortana> in other words to run a different dsplink test, i have to clear dsp cache first
  • [13:40:55] <nlCortana> (hmm think its a dutch phrase then)
  • [13:40:58] <av500> no
  • [13:41:01] <av500> it is latin
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  • [13:41:19] <av500> I just wantee to know what it was refering to...
  • [13:41:22] <av500> ed
  • [13:41:34] <nlCortana> the other way around
  • [13:41:39] <av500> I know what it means
  • [13:41:47] <av500> I wanted to know what it was refering to :)
  • [13:42:34] <nlCortana> ok
  • [13:42:41] <av500> I have to admit I bever ran the dsplink examples myself...
  • [13:42:42] <av500> never
  • [13:42:52] <av500> I only use dsplink via CE
  • [13:43:05] <nlCortana> CE? like windows CE?
  • [13:43:11] <nlCortana> noo, can be
  • [13:43:14] <nlCortana> can't
  • [13:43:32] <av500> CodecEngine
  • [13:43:38] <av500> sits on top of dsplink
  • [13:43:50] <_koen_> hey bobkatzz!
  • [13:44:20] <nlCortana> i think i have to buy an i386 lik pc too keep the project running first
  • [13:44:38] <nlCortana> then move back to this energy saving solution
  • [13:49:18] <notzed> well that was 2 hours of my life i'll never get back wasted on openembedded, again.
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  • [13:50:07] <bobkatzz> As I was just telling the student's professor, the one thing I could not bring was my camera (it's a monster) so I was asking him to send me the ones he took while he was there
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  • [13:51:08] <bobkatzz> hey _koen_ !! - sorry - I'm ultitasking on 3 screens hehe
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  • [13:51:23] <DaveDavenport> ultitasking?
  • [13:51:33] <bobkatzz> that one click up from Multitasking :P
  • [13:51:55] <DaveDavenport> sounds neat
  • [13:53:39] <bobkatzz> we got the LCD screen working with the student's "mommy board" and FLDigi diplayed on it but unfortunately the touchscreen connector (which is the size of a toohpick) got broke off during there last round of testing and didn't work
  • [13:53:53] <bobkatzz> but we got talked about in at least two froums on SDR
  • [13:54:35] <bobkatzz> people kept coming up asn saying "great presentation in the forum" and I was like HUH?
  • [13:55:01] <bobkatzz> so that was really great. I think there were something like 18,000 people there
  • [13:55:01] <av500> bobkatzz: btw, great presentation in the forum!
  • [13:55:12] <bobkatzz> oh - were you there?
  • [13:55:28] <bobkatzz> B^)
  • [13:55:39] <av500> you are supposed to say "huh"
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  • [13:56:15] <nlCortana> av500: when i firts rmmod every dsp module by hand and then load modules i get an fatal error of cmemk
  • [13:56:20] <bobkatzz> I didn't even get to see the show - I stood for 8+ hours on Friday just prepping people for the student's demo on Sat and then was there all that day too so my dogs are barking hehe
  • [13:56:22] <nlCortana> root@beagleboard:/usr/share/ti/ti-dmai-apps# ./loadmodules.sh
  • [13:56:22] <nlCortana> [ 4704.080749] CMEMK module: built on May 11 2010 at 11:27:11
  • [13:56:22] <nlCortana> [ 4704.086761] Reference Linux version 2.6.32
  • [13:56:22] <nlCortana> [ 4704.091369] File /OE/angstrom-dev/work/beagleboard-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/ti-linuxutils-1_2_25_01_06-r75c/linuxutils_2_25_01_06/packages/ti/sdo/linuxutils/cmem/src/module/cmemk.c
  • [13:56:22] <nlCortana> [ 4704.113250] CMEMK Error: CMEM phys_start (0x85800000) overlaps kernel (0x80000000 -> 0x86300000)
  • [13:56:23] <nlCortana> FATAL: Error inserting cmemk (/lib/modules/2.6.32/kernel/drivers/dsp/cmemk.ko): Invalid argument
  • [13:57:00] <nlCortana> thinks something is wrong with the memory mapping, but how to change this, afterwards (cause this is an narcissus build)
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  • [13:58:07] <maltanar> nlCortana: have you tried modifying your bootargs? I think that might be the issue.
  • [13:58:21] <av500> nlCortana: what command gave the above error msg?
  • [13:58:44] <bobkatzz> so _koen_ what are you working on (or will you have to have me shot if you tell me?) hehe
  • [13:59:46] <nlCortana> av500: ./usr/share/ti/ti-dmai-apps/loadmodules.sh
  • [14:00:06] <av500> nlCortana: yes, but I cannot read that file from here...
  • [14:00:17] <bobkatzz> oh - _koen_ I have a question for you - is there a list of all the Linux programs that have been ported to Angstrom?
  • [14:00:34] <nlCortana> maltanar: setenv mmcargs setenv bootargs console=\${console} vram=\${vram} omapfb.mode=dvi:\${dvimode} omapfb.debug=y omapdss.def_disp=\${defaultdisplay} root=\${mmcroot} rootfstype=\${mmcrootfstype} mem=99M buddy=\${buddy}
  • [14:00:34] <maltanar> nlCortana: have you tried adding mem=192M to your bootargs?
  • [14:00:47] <nlCortana> maltanar: no, not yet
  • [14:01:02] <bobkatzz> or any porgram actually
  • [14:01:07] <maltanar> nlCortana: mem=99M should also work though. there's something else.
  • [14:01:09] <nlCortana> av500: sorry, i will pastebin the contents
  • [14:01:10] <bobkatzz> programs
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  • [14:02:33] <_koen_> bobkatzz: no not really
  • [14:02:58] <nlCortana> av500: here you are: http://pastebin.com/5acEu4Sm
  • [14:03:40] <nlCortana> maltanar: does it still worth to try?
  • [14:03:54] <maltanar> nlCortana: nope, the problem's something else, I think
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  • [14:04:04] <maltanar> nlCortana: modprobe cmemk phys_start=0x85800000 phys_end=0x86800000 pools=20x4096,8x131072,4x829440,1x5250000,1x1429440,1x256000
  • [14:04:07] <bobkatzz> was wondering if the BeagleBricks (since they are linux) would be able to be wifi-ed to create a virtual network and talk to each other
  • [14:04:30] <koen> bobkatzz: like a mesh?
  • [14:04:51] <SSC> Do we have GSoC all-hands meeting now?
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  • [14:04:56] <maltanar> nlCortana: probably this line, the start address is overlapping the kernel. the script must be old
  • [14:05:03] <bobkatzz> I'm not sure what that is but assuming it's what I described - yes
  • [14:05:15] <av500> nlCortana: and what is your kernel command line?
  • [14:05:35] <jkridner> hi all
  • [14:05:38] <koen> didn't we already establish that cmem doesnt know about memory holes when checking ranges?
  • [14:05:40] <jkridner> SSC: we do.
  • [14:05:53] <av500> koen: yes, but there is a fatal error, not a warning
  • [14:05:58] <nlCortana> av500: setenv mmcargs setenv bootargs console=\${console} vram=\${vram} omapfb.mode=dvi:\${dvimode} omapfb.debug=y omapdss.def_disp=\${defaultdisplay} root=\${mmcroot} rootfstype=\${mmcrootfstype} mem=99M buddy=\${buddy
  • [14:06:04] <bobkatzz> so one BBr could receive on 10 meters - send the message (digital of course) to another one over there which thens transmits it on 40 meters
  • [14:06:06] <koen> av500: allowOverlap=1?
  • [14:06:08] <jkridner> any GSoC students here?
  • [14:06:21] <drinkcat> yes I'm here.
  • [14:06:22] <jkridner> shall we take the GSoC discussion to another room, say #beagleboard-gsoc?
  • [14:06:27] <bobkatzz> a crude (but extremely powerful) repeater sort of
  • [14:06:30] <koen> jkridner: yes
  • [14:06:39] <nlCortana> allowOverlap is called at boot time, but i don't know from where
  • [14:06:41] <maltanar> jkridner: sounds good to me
  • [14:07:02] <av500> nlCortana: well, you cannot give 99M to the kernel when cmem starts at 88M...
  • [14:07:20] <av500> this is simple math that you can do yourself...
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  • [14:07:33] <neo01124> i'm here
  • [14:08:05] <cwicks> cathy's here for the meeting
  • [14:08:33] <koen> topfs2:, neo01124: head over to #beagleboard-gsoc :)
  • [14:08:52] <jkridner> cwicks: ditto
  • [14:09:33] <nlCortana> av500: then i don't get the math at all :S
  • [14:09:34] <av500> nlCortana: read line 26 of the above pastebin
  • [14:10:00] <av500> 0x85800000 is 5800000 over the start of sdram at 0x80000000 and is 88M
  • [14:10:48] <nlCortana> av500: what do you suggest as mem boot arg?
  • [14:10:56] <av500> what line 26 says
  • [14:11:02] <av500> 88M
  • [14:11:52] <nlCortana> (of my own pastebin?)
  • [14:11:59] <av500> yes
  • [14:12:08] <av500> 26. # 0x80000000 88 MB Linux
  • [14:12:13] <jkridner> any other GSoC students here? we've got 4 out of the 6 in #beagleboard-gsoc
  • [14:12:32] <av500> 27. # 0x85800000 08 MB CMEM
  • [14:13:01] <av500> 0x85800000 - 0x80000000 = 88M...
  • [14:14:16] <nlCortana> aha, but why is angstrom suggesting this then: mem=99M@0x80000000 mem=128M@0x88000000
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  • [14:15:47] <av500> nlCortana: that I am not able to answer :)
  • [14:15:51] <av500> I dont use it
  • [14:16:18] <nlCortana> ok, then i will turn back too mem is mem=88M
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  • [14:16:54] <av500> well, you can leave the mem=128M@0x88000000 part
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  • [14:18:34] <nlCortana> i'm getting very confused
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  • [14:18:42] <nlCortana> mention that as unread
  • [14:18:54] <jkridner> anyone seen Christopher Friedt or Pramod Poudel recently?
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  • [14:20:17] <av500> ppoudel was here this morning
  • [14:20:53] <av500> cfriedt is idle here...
  • [14:23:45] <jkridner> thanks av500
  • [14:26:37] <bobkatzz> jkridner: we gave away 5-6 Beagleboard C3's that prof Yoder brought with him form Rose-Hulman - left over from his class - we were very selective as to whom we gave them to - the ARRL execs, - a couple of professors and researchers - it might be a good idea to have a booth there nest year - I could have sold like 100 +
  • [14:27:22] <bobkatzz> don;t know if Digikey was ther - I didn't see the show hehe!!
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  • [14:28:48] <bobkatzz> many people were asking if our motherboard would be available as an add-on kit for the Beagleboard-to-SDR rig chain and we said we hoped to be able to do that somehow - your thoughts
  • [14:29:43] <notzed> bobkatzz: we're having a gsoc meeting atm, so jkridners's a bit busy
  • [14:29:48] <bobkatzz> I know you are in another discussion so just email me - kc4nyk@rarcpio.net
  • [14:30:00] <bobkatzz> was just typing that B^)
  • [14:30:36] <bobkatzz> also - these chats get logged for later "digestion" hehe
  • [14:30:47] <bobkatzz> so nothing's lost
  • [14:31:01] <bobkatzz> ok - back to day job :D
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  • [14:31:12] <bobkatzz> hey raster -
  • [14:31:31] <bobkatzz> chris says hi - just got back from London, Paris and Berlin
  • [14:31:35] <raster> purrrr
  • [14:31:51] <raster> which chris?
  • [14:32:02] <bobkatzz> he was there for like 2 weeks with new gf
  • [14:32:10] <bobkatzz> X5
  • [14:32:17] <bobkatzz> or sorry - x5
  • [14:32:25] <raster> aaaaah that one! x5rings
  • [14:32:27] <raster> cool
  • [14:32:40] <raster> (i knwo too many chrises and actually several in the places you mentioned)
  • [14:32:41] <bobkatzz> I'll tell him hello
  • [14:33:08] <bobkatzz> he's in LA now working for IAC
  • [14:33:24] <bobkatzz> ok - be good
  • [14:33:27] <nlCortana> av500: I need to go to my work now (am a bit bankrupt)
  • [14:33:44] <nlCortana> thanks for your time anyway
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  • [14:33:54] <raster> aaah cool
  • [14:33:56] <nlCortana> i really appreciate that
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  • [14:34:06] <raster> say hi - if u see him
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  • [14:38:26] <Gaston|Home> can somone try to bitbake ti-cgt6x (requires manual download of cgt_c6000_6.1.9_setup_linux_x86.bin from TI). Let me know where you pointed the installer to install and if you get a clean log.staging_packager file?
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  • [14:39:24] <nlCortana> Gaston|Home erm i was succesfull on building dsplink with bitbake
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  • [14:39:33] <nlCortana> therefor neede that package too
  • [14:39:40] <koen> Gaston|Home: you don't poin the installer anywhere, OE does it for you
  • [14:39:45] <Gaston|Home> ok, thanks
  • [14:39:45] <nlCortana> maybe i can help you out?
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  • [14:39:57] <nlCortana> but really need to go
  • [14:40:15] <nlCortana> i'm back at 22:00
  • [14:40:19] <nlCortana> GMT +1
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  • [14:40:26] <Gaston|Home> When I do this for omapl138/hawkboard I get a "find: invalid expression; I was expecting to find a ')' somewhere but did not see one." in the log file
  • [14:40:37] <Gaston|Home> nl, Ill be here then
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  • [14:42:16] <Gaston|Home> koen, I actually get a graphic installer and not until I click in the file browser the proper path appears
  • [14:42:36] <Gaston|Home> but I dont think thats my issue
  • [14:43:08] <koen> Gaston|Home: ah, that bug
  • [14:43:30] <koen> Gaston|Home: 'unset DISPLAY' and bitbake -c clean ti-cgt6x
  • [14:43:52] <Gaston|Home> cool !
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  • [14:52:09] <Gaston|Home> koen: I still get the "find: invalid expression; I was expecting to find a ')' somewhere but did not see one." in the log.staging_packager.
  • [14:52:48] <Gaston|Home> But the good news! I now get a properly populated OE/build/tmp-angstrom_2008_1/sysroots/hawkboard-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/share/ti/ti-cgt6x-tree
  • [14:53:08] <koen> do you have any local edit with a stray " somewhere?
  • [14:53:28] <Gaston|Home> no edits
  • [14:54:09] <Gaston|Home> only edit I have is my own complete image recipe
  • [14:54:49] <Gaston|Home> Everything is stock standard and fresh as of 6 hrs ago
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  • [14:56:38] <Gaston|Home> I think I'm ok now, Thanks ! Koen
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  • [15:15:00] <cfriedt> Has anyone here been using the new(ish) UVC gadget code?
  • [15:15:12] <koen> no, but I was planning to
  • [15:15:30] <koen> at TI we had a prototype that streamed h264 over it
  • [15:15:39] <koen> for dm365, not omap3, but still
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  • [15:17:37] <cfriedt> it seems quite cool... if I can mess around with it a little bit, I think I can probably use it for a really simple video source for generating a test signal / packet errors over wusb.
  • [15:17:58] <av500> wusb? wobbly usb?
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  • [15:27:30] <cfriedt> wireless usb...
  • [15:29:16] <cfriedt> firmware is a bit of a pita with certain types of usb dongles... does anyone know a good way of extracting firmware? usbmon sometimes does not completely record packets...
  • [15:29:51] <koen> funny you ask :)
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  • [15:30:00] <koen> there's a gsoc usbsniffer project
  • [15:30:21] <cfriedt> i've been emailing nicholas already about it... awesome idea
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  • [16:26:04] <ddd> Hey, all. what is Angstrom X11 Gnome username? and password? Thanks
  • [16:27:02] <djlewis> root and root irc
  • [16:28:21] <_koen_> for gdm, login over serial and 'adduser <name>' your account
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  • [16:29:53] <ddd> from SD card, i login
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  • [16:31:49] <ddd> root ,root irc? not true
  • [16:36:09] <ddd> koen, what is gdm?
  • [16:36:43] <ddd> login over serial
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  • [16:42:31] <av500> ddd: google
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  • [16:43:24] <ddd> av500_google
  • [16:45:31] <av500> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=gnome+gdm
  • [16:46:17] * mru prefers justfuckinggoogleit.com
  • [16:46:38] <djlewis> yeah!
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  • [17:10:41] <jkridner1> pong
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  • [18:13:34] <sethn> I'm trying to run the latest Angstrom 2.6.32 uImage on my C3 BB
  • [18:13:51] <sethn> Do I need to use the new X-Loader + U-Boot ?
  • [18:14:06] <av500> it will not hurt
  • [18:14:28] <sethn> I'm having problems with them.... when I use them I get a terminal bell character and then my terminal is f-ed up and won't direct input through the serial console
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  • [18:15:11] <sethn> I haven't been able to get 2.6.32 to boot with X-Loader 1.4.1 / U-Boot from Jan 2010
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  • [18:15:49] <av500> so why are asking then?
  • [18:17:36] <sethn> av500: *grin*, cause I'm damned if I do, damned if I don't
  • [18:18:15] <av500> sorry, misread the "haven't"
  • [18:18:29] <sethn> av500: heh heh
  • [18:18:30] <av500> so yes, use the newer ones
  • [18:21:05] <sethn> av500: Do you know where I can find the official sources / changelog for the U-Boot / X-Loader that Koen builds?
  • [18:21:26] <sethn> I'd like to scan the list of changes and see if anything strikes me as possibly screwing with my terminal
  • [18:21:46] <emeb> sethn: FWIW I built Unstable over the weekend and I got X-Loader 1.4.4ss & u-boot 2010.03. Works fine w/ the 2.6.32bb kernel that unstable uses.
  • [18:22:19] <sethn> emeb: Awesome. Its good to know it works on somebody else's. What rev BB are you using?
  • [18:22:26] <emeb> C2
  • [18:22:38] <sethn> emeb: Can you interrupt u-boot?
  • [18:22:46] <emeb> yes
  • [18:23:06] <emeb> - it gives a 10 sec delay...
  • [18:23:08] <sethn> emeb: What terminal / OS / tty program is your host?
  • [18:23:26] <sethn> emeb: For me, when I use that x-loader & u-boot, I can't type /anything/ to the terminal
  • [18:23:29] <emeb> I use gtkterm on a Fedora11 system
  • [18:23:38] <sethn> Cool, thanks
  • [18:23:44] <emeb> through a usb/serial adapter.
  • [18:23:54] <sethn> I haven't 100% figured out if its confusing my terminal or the usb/serial adapter
  • [18:24:07] <emeb> set to 115.2k 8/n/1
  • [18:24:20] <sethn> emeb: Do you get a bell character from x-loader or u-boot?
  • [18:24:28] <sethn> like, a terminal beep
  • [18:24:49] <emeb> Can't say I've noticed it, but my audio runs to headphones that I don't usually have on.
  • [18:25:09] <sethn> emeb: thanks a ton for the info, this will help me a lot
  • [18:25:13] <emeb> npo
  • [18:25:21] <emeb> errr... np. :)
  • [18:25:53] <prpplague> _koen_: would be pretty interesting to have the nanonote with omap
  • [18:26:10] <emeb> prpplague: I'd buy one.
  • [18:26:22] <prpplague> emeb: at what price? hehe
  • [18:26:53] <emeb> prpplague: I'd think ~$200 would be reasonable. Maybe up to $250?
  • [18:27:02] <prpplague> emeb: $199 is doable
  • [18:27:26] * _troll_ is now known as mru
  • [18:27:32] <emeb> I got a eeePC a while back for $200 that is nice, so I'm comfy with small stuff.
  • [18:27:35] <koen> $199 would be nice (provided there's a hdmi option)
  • [18:28:31] <emeb> prpplague: would it have ethernet built-in too?
  • [18:29:11] <prpplague> emeb: don't know yet
  • [18:29:18] <prpplague> emeb: doubt there would be room
  • [18:29:21] <emeb> prpplague: or at least enough USB2.0 ports to add a couple dongles (wifi or wired)
  • [18:29:38] <prpplague> emeb: was looking at wifi
  • [18:29:59] <emeb> prpplague: wifi would be most excellent.
  • [18:30:14] <av500> wifi is a must
  • [18:30:21] <emeb> what's a wifi chipset go for these days?
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  • [18:30:39] <prpplague> you can get one pretty cheap, problem is the fcc certs, they are pretty expensive
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  • [18:30:42] * emeb used to design them for Intersil, but that was long ago)
  • [18:31:40] <prpplague> you could include a libertas chipset or TI wl1271 maybe
  • [18:31:48] <emeb> prpplague: re FCC - too bad you can't buy pre-certified modules.
  • [18:32:02] <prpplague> emeb: you can, but they are much more expensive
  • [18:32:09] <prpplague> usually about double
  • [18:32:11] <emeb> prpplague: figures.
  • [18:34:53] <koen> florian: could you do a 'killall bitbake' on ltg?
  • [18:35:12] <koen> florian: someone is killing it with builds currently
  • [18:35:21] <prpplague> koen: http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/File:Avt2_RC1_components_mark.jpg
  • [18:36:33] <khem> ds2: around ?
  • [18:36:37] * koen tries to see where the hdmi can live on that board
  • [18:36:59] <prpplague> koen: isn't one on that board
  • [18:37:10] <emeb> prpplague: text on right says 'serial console' but I see no connector. Backside?
  • [18:37:11] <prpplague> koen: that is the current motherboard in the device
  • [18:37:27] <prpplague> emeb: only available internally for that device
  • [18:37:48] <emeb> prpplague: hmm. Not so cool.
  • [18:38:14] <emeb> I guess adding HDMI and serial console would require new molds for the case. => more $$
  • [18:38:16] <prpplague> emeb: we'd add a usb->rs-232 for the omap version
  • [18:38:21] <mru> blob chip, ugh
  • [18:38:42] <koen> emeb: a sharp knife does wonders
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  • [18:38:59] <prpplague> emeb: they have the mold done where it can have some break outs
  • [18:39:06] <emeb> koen: I've got a drawer full of scalpel blades
  • [18:39:08] <prpplague> koen: yea well you don't want to do that for a 1000 units
  • [18:39:13] <emeb> prpplague: ah - good.
  • [18:42:23] <av500> prpplague: thats a huge pcb, plenty of space :)
  • [18:42:43] <prpplague> av500: yea
  • [18:44:10] <emeb> prpplague: any idea if all that space is usable, or if there are keep-outs?
  • [18:44:39] <prpplague> emeb: pretty much all the space is usable
  • [18:44:51] <av500> I bet you can even stack 2 PCBs :)
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  • [18:45:26] <prpplague> av500: no, not enough room for that
  • [18:45:40] <emeb> prpplague: nice - lots of room to put interesting stuff in, even just w/ 1 board.
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  • [18:47:04] <prpplague> i was considering just doing a barbones board that i can put in there and connect it up to the beagle for testing
  • [18:47:33] <emeb> Interesting idea - use the expansion & LCD headers?
  • [18:47:45] <prpplague> yea
  • [18:48:04] <emeb> a few ribbon cables through a slot in the side...
  • [18:48:38] <prpplague> emeb: yea
  • [18:48:48] <emeb> prpplague: it's not obvious from that picture how the LCD hooks up.
  • [18:49:07] <prpplague> emeb: other side of the board - http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/AVT2_RC1_Reference_Board
  • [18:49:37] <emeb> aha! Elastomeric keys...
  • [18:50:17] <emeb> Would you do NAND flash too, or put everything on microSD a-la xM?
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  • [18:52:07] <prpplague> emeb: probably all microSD
  • [18:52:26] <emeb> prpplague: makes sense.
  • [18:53:17] <emeb> prpplague: the center contacts on the kybd will always require vias - limits the placement of parts on the other side unless you use blind via PCB?
  • [18:54:38] <prpplague> emeb: yea, it would take some layout time
  • [18:55:24] <nicobari> Hi
  • [18:55:41] <nicobari> I installed Angstrom on my beagleboard and its running like a charm
  • [18:55:57] <nicobari> I wanted to write my own C code to use my beagleboard
  • [18:56:06] <nicobari> how should I start
  • [18:57:08] <av500> how much do you know about writing c code?
  • [18:57:49] <nicobari> I used 8 bit and 16 bit MCUs before
  • [18:57:59] <nicobari> I want to use beagleboard for robotics purpose
  • [18:58:37] <av500> hmm
  • [18:58:39] <nicobari> I can write codes in C if thats what you want to know
  • [18:59:22] <nicobari> in my previous projects I used a write code and burn it on my MCUs
  • [18:59:50] <nicobari> but in beagleboard I am confused what to do after installing angstrom
  • [19:00:15] <av500> no need to burn anything, just copy your sw to the sdcard and run it from there
  • [19:00:30] * mru doesn't even do that
  • [19:00:37] <av500> even easier, use a usb2ethernet and nfs mount a folder
  • [19:01:00] <nicobari> I will be needing cross compilers right??
  • [19:01:03] <av500> nicobari: developping for the BB is much more like writing SW on/for a PC than a tiny MCU...
  • [19:01:11] <av500> nicobari: yes
  • [19:01:14] <nicobari> ok
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  • [19:01:43] <emeb> or, build it right on the beagle: opkg install task-native-sdk
  • [19:02:25] <nicobari> yea 1 more thing my beagleboard is not connected to net
  • [19:02:51] <nicobari> so to install anything on beagleboard will be difficult for me
  • [19:03:01] <av500> so connect it
  • [19:03:03] <torpor> i'm installing ubuntu 10.4 netbook omap on my beagle+pico projector tonight .. anyone know what the SGX driver situation will be like?
  • [19:03:19] <av500> mixed
  • [19:03:35] <torpor> bridge and gate available?
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  • [19:04:00] <nicobari> av500:so I can access uart1 of beagle board by simply reading ttyS0 in my C code?
  • [19:04:14] <nicobari> srry I mean ttyS1
  • [19:04:38] <av500> yes, given they are pinmuxed correctly
  • [19:04:57] <torpor> nicobari, you can use select() on /dev/ttyS0/1, treat it like a normal serial port, and so on.
  • [19:05:27] <av500> it is a normal serial port...
  • [19:05:47] <nicobari> ok
  • [19:06:18] <nicobari> I google and found that to configure pinmux I need to change my U-boot file
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  • [19:16:59] <emeb> never underestimate the warm feeling that comes from "dd if=/dev/sdc of=backup_of_my_beagle_sd_card.img"
  • [19:17:18] <djlewis_> emeb: doea that work?
  • [19:17:19] <koen> your sd card reader runs that hot?
  • [19:17:31] <emeb> :)
  • [19:17:37] <koen> that's how http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/untested/ gets created
  • [19:17:53] <koen> (with a bzip -9 as well)
  • [19:17:56] <djlewis_> does it check card size and adjust itself?
  • [19:18:10] <emeb> djlewis_: dd is smart enough to do that.
  • [19:18:32] <djlewis_> I like 100MB DOS and balance of 4GB as ext3
  • [19:19:00] <emeb> djlewis_: that backs up the whole card - partitions & all
  • [19:19:28] * djlewis_ was thnking of the other way. to card.
  • [19:19:50] <emeb> you can use /dev/loop? w/ offsets to mount the .img & retrieve stuff if necessary.
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  • [19:20:10] <nicobari> I am a beginner which, cross compiler should I use for compiling C code for beagleboard to keep it simple and easy
  • [19:20:25] <nicobari> I am using ubuntu
  • [19:20:46] <koen> emeb: tried kpartx (no, it's now kde)
  • [19:20:49] <koen> ?
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  • [19:21:10] <emeb> koen: nope. Sounds like it might be easier than loop?
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  • [19:21:31] <koen> emeb: it makes 1 loopdev for each partition, automatically
  • [19:21:43] <emeb> koen: sweet. Will check it out.
  • [19:22:01] <koen> no need to calculate offsets anymore
  • [19:22:15] <koen> nicobari: depends on the complexity of your app
  • [19:23:02] <koen> nicobari: for simple apps http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/toolchains/ will do, but things will lots of dependencies need something more than a toolchain or sdk
  • [19:23:26] <nicobari> ok
  • [19:24:39] <emeb> koen: thnx for 0045 patches - no idea why enabling I2C2 twice caused kernel to hang. Should we create new patch w/o that?
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  • [19:25:19] <torpor> nicobari, the absolute simplest is to boot your beagle and install a compiler on it and use it to build simple C apps.
  • [19:25:25] <torpor> task-native-sdk
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  • [19:25:41] <torpor> cross-compiling requires plumbing.
  • [19:26:19] <nicobari> that seems more easy
  • [19:26:20] <nicobari> thnx
  • [19:26:59] <koen> emeb: that'd be a good play I think
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  • [19:28:59] <emeb> koen: It's not high priority for me - I've got working kernel w/ modified version of 1st patch, but maybe I'll make one later today & post
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  • [19:34:48] <deepsight> hello ppl, im trying to get TI's graphics drivers installed in a EBVBeagleboard that came preinstalled with ubuntu 9.04, i already downloaded TI's bin and extracted the files, but i dont know what to do next
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  • [19:42:39] <sethn> emeb: Well weird, the new u-boot is freaking out my usb/serial converter. It has to be unplugged/replugged to do serial output after seeing the u-boot boot messages. Strange.
  • [19:43:07] <sethn> emeb: I'm curious if you used g_ether / g_cdc usb gadget bits with the new kernel?
  • [19:44:02] <emeb> sethn: I gave a half-hearted try a few days ago, but I usually use an ethernet dongle.
  • [19:44:27] <sethn> emeb: Half hearted is always how I approach the usb gadget framework ;-)
  • [19:44:37] <emeb> :)
  • [19:44:45] <emeb> did you update your x-loader?
  • [19:44:59] <sethn> I haven't flashed it to NAND yet, but yes
  • [19:45:07] <emeb> new u-boot seems to need the new MLO
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  • [19:45:13] <sethn> The X-Loader 1.4.1 seems incompatible with the new u-boot
  • [19:45:14] <sethn> yeah
  • [19:45:30] <emeb> Ah - so you're holding the user key during boot.
  • [19:45:54] <sethn> I'm loathe to flash this to NAND until I can figure out how to keep my serial converter from freaking out
  • [19:46:08] <emeb> Understood.
  • [19:46:15] <sethn> I'm not super excited to have a reboot involve replugging cables at just the right time, restarting screen, etc
  • [19:46:26] <sethn> I'm sure its a bug in the serial converter, but alas
  • [19:46:37] <emeb> I've had problems w/ some usb/serial dongles in certain USB ports
  • [19:46:55] <emeb> Try another brand, or a different port on your PC?
  • [19:47:23] * emeb got some cheap usb/serial from DX a while back.
  • [19:47:41] <emeb> but they are a little touchy.
  • [19:48:03] <sethn> yeah, I've had that experience before
  • [19:48:08] <sethn> thanks emeb
  • [19:48:13] <emeb> 'k
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  • [19:51:35] * djlewis_ (ot) just loves watching those space walks :)
  • [19:52:48] <emeb> antenna installation on the space station?
  • [19:53:24] <emeb> koen: +1 on kpartx. Thanks for the tip.
  • [19:54:22] <djlewis_> emeb: and some work on Dexter.
  • [19:54:58] <nlCortana_> Gaston|Home: I'm 6min early
  • [19:54:59] <nlCortana_> :)
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  • [19:56:16] <emeb> djlews: amazing how much Dextre looks like Bender on Futurama...
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  • [19:56:56] <emeb> djlewis_: ^^^
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  • [19:59:59] <Gaston|Home> nlCortana : koen helped me out. So I think I'm good for now. Basically the ti-cgt6x seems to be confused if DISPLAY isn't unset during the installation process.
  • [20:00:30] <nlCortana> ok, good to know
  • [20:00:44] <nlCortana> but i'll promised to be back
  • [20:01:03] <nlCortana> I'm at the other work again
  • [20:01:14] <Gaston|Home> I still get that odd unclean log.staging_packager file, but so far all seems ok.
  • [20:01:36] <nlCortana> what are you building?
  • [20:01:40] <koen> Gaston|Home: _roger_ is testing a fix for it after I helped him reproduce it
  • [20:02:02] <Gaston|Home> ah, does it really effect anything?
  • [20:02:33] <Gaston|Home> (the find error)
  • [20:05:30] <Gaston|Home> nlCortana, I'm trying to get all set up to get hawkboard rolling. So I am building a whole custom image (including only standard packages yet).
  • [20:05:49] <Gaston|Home> Anyways, thanks guys for being helpful !
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  • [20:14:38] <xarxex> Hi! I just got my beagle and realized that I'm missing a serial cable. I do, however, have a 4-pin USB to Serial plug. Would it suffice to wire the RX, TX and Ground to this adapter?
  • [20:14:47] <av500> yes
  • [20:15:18] <xarxex> How are the RX, TX, GND aligned on the beagle?
  • [20:15:23] <av500> read the BBSRM
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  • [20:15:32] <av500> its all in there
  • [20:15:50] <xarxex> Even the pin-definitions?
  • [20:16:00] <av500> even the pin-definitions
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  • [20:19:49] <xarxex> There it is. Thanks
  • [20:20:17] <djlewis_> :) I love happy
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  • [20:44:46] <robosycho> question
  • [20:44:59] <robosycho> I'm trying to cross-compile opencv for the beagleboard
  • [20:45:18] <robosycho> the current compile directions say to use CMake and GMake
  • [20:45:46] <robosycho> I'm trying to set CMake to use the cross-compiler but I keep getting an error
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  • [20:48:52] <robosycho> http://pastebin.com/wzpW8rcJ
  • [20:49:01] <robosycho> here's a link to the output
  • [20:53:23] <koen> robosycho: 'bitbake opencv'
  • [20:53:44] <koen> emeb: good to hear you like kpartx, I'm surprised it's such an unknown tool
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  • [20:56:54] <robosycho> koen: how can I get it to use YUV instead of JPEG like normal?
  • [20:59:12] <xarxex> Baud: 115200 Data: 8Bit Parity: None Stopbits: 1 ?
  • [20:59:51] <emeb> koen: not everyone has to mount images I guess.
  • [21:00:03] <koen> emeb: images with offsets :)
  • [21:00:19] <koen> robosycho: you'd have to read teh opencv docs for that
  • [21:01:13] <robosycho> ok
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  • [21:05:47] <xarxex> I'm using 115200 8N1 Flow:None.. I'm getting gibberish
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  • [21:15:12] <xarxex> I got ONE sensible thing out of the terminal "Courier New", why can I only read font names?
  • [21:17:04] <_av500_> only took typography 101 in school?
  • [21:17:40] <xarxex> Yeah, but it doesn't look like the uboot example i've seen ;)
  • [21:18:10] <xarxex> also, hdmi/dvi gives me "Unsupported mode"
  • [21:18:19] <xarxex> i'm guessing something is wrong
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  • [21:29:03] <xarxex> Anyone feel like helping me out? I just realized that when i re-encode the terminal i get a little more sensible text. So i'm guessing it's encoding related
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  • [21:32:55] <_av500_> i doubt that
  • [21:33:02] <_av500_> what have you connected to the BB?
  • [21:33:17] <xarxex> FTDI
  • [21:33:21] <xarxex> 4 Port
  • [21:33:28] <xarxex> RX-TX-GND
  • [21:33:41] <_av500_> and you are using the correct port?
  • [21:33:48] <xarxex> Using port 2 3 and5
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  • [21:33:59] <xarxex> 2 RX 3 TX 5 GND
  • [21:34:11] <_av500_> ok, so pin, not port
  • [21:34:17] <xarxex> exactly
  • [21:34:32] <_av500_> and you know that pc tx goes to bb rx?
  • [21:34:38] <_av500_> and vice versa
  • [21:34:39] <xarxex> ye
  • [21:34:42] <_av500_> k
  • [21:35:00] <xarxex> not shorted either
  • [21:35:02] <_av500_> k
  • [21:35:13] <_av500_> and what is loaded in the BB?
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  • [21:35:46] <_av500_> and how is it powerered?
  • [21:36:06] <xarxex> Powered through OTG (No peripherals atm)
  • [21:36:44] <_av500_> can u power it from dc-in?
  • [21:36:49] <xarxex> Boot method doesn't matter, using both nand and mmc (With the standard rev 4)
  • [21:37:08] <xarxex> not at the moment, haven't got that one yet
  • [21:37:21] <_av500_> and you are pressing the user button when booting?
  • [21:37:25] <xarxex> yes
  • [21:38:03] <_av500_> err, that ftdi, what is it?
  • [21:38:06] <_av500_> the ttl one?
  • [21:38:16] <xarxex> ttlUSB
  • [21:38:21] <_av500_> that wont work
  • [21:38:28] <xarxex> Why not :S
  • [21:38:29] <_av500_> the bb serial is rs232
  • [21:38:34] <xarxex> i see
  • [21:38:38] <_av500_> rs232 is not ttl
  • [21:38:43] <xarxex> i'll just have to get one
  • [21:38:51] <_av500_> yes
  • [21:39:13] <_av500_> your ftdi is 0V, 5V
  • [21:39:25] <_av500_> rs232 is +5V, -5V
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  • [21:39:36] <djlewis_> rs-232 has +/- swings, like he said ^^^^^
  • [21:39:45] <xarxex> annoyinh
  • [21:39:50] <_av500_> yes
  • [21:39:54] <xarxex> but it explains why it didn't work
  • [21:40:03] <_av500_> djlewis_: i remembered somebody else trying the ttl one :)
  • [21:40:14] <_av500_> i should start a wiki...
  • [21:40:52] <xarxex> Shouldn't it give terminal output on DVI?
  • [21:41:28] <xarxex> Or do i need DC adapter for that?
  • [21:43:01] <_av500_> depends on your boot setup
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  • [21:43:33] <xarxex> Can i change it without the terminal? :P
  • [21:44:08] <_av500_> yes
  • [21:44:11] <_av500_> boot.scr
  • [21:44:31] <_av500_> but terminal is much easier than probing around in the dark
  • [21:47:22] <xarxex> If i put the ??ngstr??m image on my SD, and boot with user-button, would it boot or does it need input first?
  • [21:47:41] <_av500_> i dunno
  • [21:48:07] <xarxex> Then i shall try
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  • [22:00:10] <emeb> A while back there was some discussion about cheap DMMs and this one came up: http://www.harborfreight.com/7-function-multimeter-98025.html
  • [22:00:31] <emeb> Picked one up a few days ago for $2 during a sale. Not bad.
  • [22:01:22] <_av500_> well, its a cheap DMM...
  • [22:01:27] <emeb> Seems to work OK. Diode check can only go to 2V, so it's not much good for checking LEDs
  • [22:01:59] <emeb> the hfe test works OK, but you need to jiggle the xtr in the socket to get it to contact.
  • [22:02:20] <_av500_> smd parts might fall inside :)
  • [22:02:46] <emeb> return it - "Hey, this socket is full of SMDs!"
  • [22:03:21] <emeb> Update rate is rather slow, so you need to hold the probes on for a while to get a good reading.
  • [22:03:36] <_av500_> most cheap DMMs i had were battery hogs
  • [22:03:57] <_av500_> which meant thay were always empty and starterd giving random output values
  • [22:04:29] <emeb> Haven't tested that yet. I know I keep forgetting to turn mine off - good thing my B&K has auto-off after ~20min
  • [22:05:08] <_av500_> my fluke runs forever on one batt
  • [22:05:43] <emeb> ditto my B&K - I've replaced batteries twice in the 15+ years I've had it
  • [22:06:22] * _av500_ needs recharging himself now...
  • [22:06:30] <emeb> don't overcharge...
  • [22:06:40] <_av500_> i wish
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  • [22:20:09] <xarxex> ysy, it booted
  • [22:20:13] <xarxex> yay*
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  • [22:24:29] <djlewis_> emeb: I bought that one a couple years back. it works as it should ;P
  • [22:25:15] <djlewis_> I never tried to test a transistor. Dont use them much anymore.
  • [22:25:44] <emeb> djlewis_: Kinda like the old tube testers you'd see at the drugstore back in the dim time.
  • [22:25:46] <djlewis_> but I do have a stash of germanium diodes and transistors
  • [22:26:12] <djlewis_> I used them when I had to
  • [22:26:31] <djlewis_> the tube testers
  • [22:26:59] <djlewis_> I tv shop I worked in in 60's had a real one. lots of knobs ...
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  • [22:27:25] <emeb> Never had a need myself, but tubes were more of a curiosity.
  • [22:27:45] <xarxex-beagle> I like how android tethering works out of the box with the linux kernel
  • [22:27:58] <djlewis_> my career in electronics began in the tube era ...
  • [22:28:35] <djlewis_> my first repair at age 12, a tube type car radio.
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  • [22:29:47] <emeb> Fun stuff - always interesting working with the high voltages those circuits needed.
  • [22:30:00] <emeb> I like things in the < 20V range.
  • [22:31:07] <mru> 1.8V ftw
  • [22:32:47] <emeb> yep. The FPGA on my board uses 1.2V (core)
  • [22:33:27] <djlewis_> yep, nowadays +5 is high voltage, hehee
  • [22:33:35] <emeb> kinda hard to imagine that even has enough noise margin for decent logic...
  • [22:33:57] <mru> it's below the low level for ttl...
  • [22:34:01] <mru> iirc
  • [22:34:37] <emeb> max Vil for 5V TTL is 0.8V, so it's getting pretty close.
  • [22:35:08] <mru> right, there's less margin for low than for high
  • [22:36:18] * emeb had an entire semester on how TTL gates work. wasted time?
  • [22:36:39] <mru> well, nand is nand
  • [22:37:15] <mru> or would you fall for that advert, "Our chips use only the most exclusive OR gates"
  • [22:37:32] <emeb> Hah!
  • [22:37:50] <emeb> CMOS is still the same - only the thresholds have changed (and the leakage)
  • [22:37:55] <mru> any other standard gate can be built using only xor gates
  • [22:38:09] <mru> and the fanout
  • [22:38:09] <_av500_> pearly gate?
  • [22:38:22] <emeb> (no telling how many you'd need though)
  • [22:38:38] <mru> for a two-input gate, not that many
  • [22:39:11] <emeb> and internally XORs are kinda complicated compared to NAND & NOR, so your circuit will be slower.
  • [22:39:18] <mru> probably the only time it's useful is when you have spare xor gates in a PLA
  • [22:39:52] <emeb> hmm - PLA w/ XOR?
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  • [22:40:51] * emeb never used PLAs much - straight from TTL -> ASIC / FPGA.
  • [22:40:57] <mru> me neither
  • [22:41:11] <mru> just speculating
  • [22:41:24] <mru> I mean, such a thing could be built
  • [22:42:50] <emeb> I'm waiting for the huge revolution in logic design that happens when HP productizes the memristor.
  • [22:43:15] <emeb> I anticipate that I'll be waiting a while. :)
  • [22:43:55] <emeb> kinda like waiting for spin-tronics, or quantum computing.
  • [22:44:03] <mru> or cmos, in the 50s
  • [22:44:23] <emeb> yup.
  • [22:44:46] <mru> but sure, they may be onto something
  • [22:45:15] <emeb> No doubt - it appears to be real. Question remains how hard it is to use it.
  • [22:46:01] <mru> I guess initially it'll only be used in a few special applications
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  • [22:49:27] <emeb> If they're to be believed it should make nice, fast nonvolatile storage.
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  • [22:50:34] <emeb> I've read articles suggesting density that dwarfs multilevel flash.
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