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[00:22:57] <Drumpi> hello
[00:24:29] <Drumpi> how many time takes to compile beagleboard-demo-image
[00:24:31] <Drumpi> ?
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[00:28:22] <Drumpi> i'm waiting 7 hours and it has taken me 60GB!
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[00:31:22] <emeb> Drumpi: first time through OE? It's pretty slow...
[00:31:26] <buZz> it takes ages, didn't you read the warnings?
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[00:31:39] <Drumpi> yeah, i knew
[00:32:04] <Drumpi> but a console-image + x11-image takes 11 hours
[00:32:21] <Drumpi> but not 5 hours on the same
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[00:32:44] <Drumpi> configuring libsamplerate
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[00:55:13] <Drumpi> nobody?
[01:02:01] <djlewis> Drumpi, my first console image took 11 hours
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[01:07:56] <Drumpi> but how long takes configure a SINGLE library?
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[01:26:00] <Drumpi> ok, i thing nobody knows what's happening
[01:26:10] <Drumpi> so, good night
[01:26:14] <Drumpi> bye
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[07:17:37] <_av500_> }
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[07:20:33] <dm8tbr> >
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[08:16:25] <koen> does anyone find http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2010-05-16/ strangely u-boot like?
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[10:18:55] <koen> Does anyone know a cheap source for idc10 -> idc10 cables in europe?
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[10:21:02] <koen> farnell has parts, but ???3 for a single connector is just way to expensive
[10:24:56] <noway> koen : a cheap source is to make it by your self ,find a Parallel ATA and do it it s easy
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[10:42:08] <koen> noway: that's indeed an option
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[10:58:52] <buZz> thats a gpio pin gone onewire controller?
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[11:01:11] <buZz> guess so
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[11:08:08] <koen> buZz: yes
[11:08:15] <buZz> :)
[11:08:42] <koen> buZz: http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/w1/masters/w1-gpio
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[11:18:04] <buZz> brief, but clear
[11:21:20] <koen> I should have some w1 temperature sensors lying around here
[11:21:36] <buZz> DS18B20? :)
[11:21:40] <koen> time to find them and connect them to the trainer
[11:21:46] <koen> I think so
[11:21:56] <koen> it's been >5 years ago since I sampled them :)
[11:22:24] <buZz> heh, i'm using a couple of those to see outside & inside temp, pretty accurate buggers
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[15:12:31] <mobidev> hi to all
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[15:52:40] <_av500_> hi to one
[15:53:05] <jesusmad3> hi
[15:53:10] <jesusmad3> is there any problem with webcams or with v4l2 in Angstrong? I can only get 10-15 frames per second.. while tryng the exact thing in my PC I get 30
[15:53:43] <_av500_> it has been reported by others too
[15:54:01] <jesusmad3> with Quickcam logitech spheer AF?
[15:54:08] <jesusmad3> sphere
[15:54:10] <_av500_> no idea
[15:54:28] <_av500_> but i guess it is a ton of memcpys between all the layers involved
[15:54:52] <jesusmad3> oooh do you know about some forum talking about that?
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[15:55:51] <jesusmad3> hmm you mean some kind of inneficient instruction between uvcvideo,v4l2 etc?
[15:55:56] <_av500_> try #beagle
[15:56:03] <jesusmad3> ??
[15:56:08] <jesusmad3> hehhee
[15:56:16] <jesusmad3> already on it
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[15:57:32] <_av500_> so far nobody that reported it slow went so far as to find out why...
[15:58:12] <jesusmad3> hmmm bad thing.. but it doesnt happen with all cams right?
[15:58:33] <_av500_> i dont know
[15:58:38] <jesusmad3> is it "futile" :), to test another distros?
[15:59:01] <_av500_> it mostly just avoids really looking for the problem
[15:59:34] <_av500_> ppl nevertheless try it all the time
[15:59:44] <DaveDavenport> fruitless
[15:59:56] <jesusmad3> yeah but I even know where to start seaching for the solution... it is not a compile problem, or some Error you can check in Google... but..
[16:00:18] <jesusmad3> well i will try :)
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[16:04:44] <flyeng4> I am able to ping my laptop from my BB but can't ping the outside world?
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[16:11:59] <djlewis> jesusmad3, try 169x199 rez :)
[16:12:08] <djlewis> 160x100
[16:12:17] <djlewis> typing in the dark
[16:12:40] <_av500_> djlewis: lighte out?
[16:12:54] <djlewis> gm _av500_ , yep
[16:13:11] <djlewis> flyeng4, fix your gateway
[16:13:59] <jesusmad3> lol
[16:14:25] <jesusmad3> ok but I am going to test that grab.c program in a low level v4l way...
[16:14:33] <djlewis> jesusmad3, well that is bout the only way to speed it up as is
[16:15:06] * djlewis got somewhat better results with gstreamer in fb mode
[16:15:41] <koen> djlewis: tried omapfbdmaisink already?
[16:15:53] <koen> omapdmaifbsink, sorry
[16:16:10] * koen gives brijesh the evil eye for coming up with that name
[16:16:24] <djlewis> koen, gm, it is on my list now, thanks :)
[16:17:01] <jesusmad3> So perhaps programs like mplayer, xatv, luvcview use inneficient instructions like memcpys
[16:17:06] <koen> that will leverage the overlays, so it could save you a colourconv step in gst
[16:17:08] <jesusmad3> ?
[16:17:25] <koen> oprofile it and find out
[16:17:38] <djlewis> hmmm
[16:18:15] <jesusmad3> djlewis are u talking about an uvcvideo webcam?
[16:19:06] <djlewis> jesusmad3, mine are palin cams
[16:19:09] <djlewis> plain
[16:19:19] <koen> they can see russia?
[16:19:19] <djlewis> no uvc here :(
[16:19:24] <jesusmad3> ??? ok
[16:20:30] * djlewis found a fun gui prog called harpia for playing around with gstreamer.
[16:20:49] <djlewis> I dont have it for BB yet
[16:21:44] <djlewis> had to edit some of the python scripts to get them to work.
[16:24:26] <djlewis> and that was fun as I had never done python.
[16:34:15] <djlewis> hmm, a palin cam.. just doesn't sound very useful somehow.
[16:35:36] <_av500_> koen: lol
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[16:49:30] * emeb finally got off his a** and built an angstrom unstable
[16:50:09] <emeb> now I just need to figure out how to tweak & rebuild my own kernel...
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[16:51:08] <emeb> koen: new git .ipkg seems to work & is much smaller. Thanks.
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[17:13:00] <koen> I did manage to get the connector soldered on to the trainer
[17:13:11] <koen> but they aren't connected yut
[17:13:13] <koen> yet*
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[17:23:44] <koen> maybe they even have idc10 cables in stock
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[17:39:58] <Drumpi> good afternoon!
[17:40:27] <Drumpi> (if anyone's here)
[17:41:42] <_av500_> no
[17:42:09] <Drumpi> you are always here? :D:D:D
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[17:54:06] <Drumpi> I have a problem with http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardEclipse
[17:54:52] <Drumpi> First, i cannot install "Zylin Embedded CDT" using eclipse clasicc
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[17:55:10] <Drumpi> i must install c/c++ eclipse package
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[17:55:37] <Drumpi> (it says something about missing libraries)
[17:56:09] <Drumpi> i said it if anyone it's updating this tutorial
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[18:00:30] <koen> it's a wiki, you can update it yourself
[18:01:37] <Drumpi> if i do that, some "expert" will ban me and "correct" it again :D:D:D
[18:02:05] <_av500_> why would he do that?
[18:02:16] <Drumpi> but i don't want to do it because i can't compile the http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardEclipse example
[18:02:42] <Drumpi> _av500_: because i'm totally noob
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[18:03:15] <Drumpi> I get this error: LEDblink.o:(.ARM.exidx+0x0): undefined reference to `__aeabi_unwind_cpp_pr0'
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[18:03:52] <koen> emeb: fwiw, angstrom also supports the mini2440, so you could try that if you want to have the same sw base on both
[18:04:06] * koen doesn't have a mini2440 so can't say how well it works
[18:04:58] <Drumpi> i don't know what to do next, because i can't see __aeabi_unwind_cpp_pr0 in any code
[18:06:05] <emeb> koen: I was wondering about that.
[18:07:05] * koen has blown his gadget budget for the rest of the year on the makerbot
[18:07:14] <emeb> If I feel particularly adventurous I may try it.
[18:07:26] <koen> the bit that is left is for buying a showdog + lcd
[18:07:59] <emeb> koen: put in some overtime/get night job. :)
[18:08:49] <koen> :)
[18:09:17] <koen> thankfully most beagle related stuff gets donated to me
[18:09:53] <emeb> Won't TCT donate a showdog+lcd to the cause?
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[18:10:09] <_av500_> Drumpi: and you have a correct toolchain installed?
[18:10:38] <_av500_> and you can build your code outside of eclipse as a test?
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[18:10:42] <koen> emeb: likely, but I want one anyway, so I don't mind paying for it
[18:12:48] <Drumpi> _av500_: i get this: http://www.codesourcery.com/sgpp/lite/arm/portal/release858
[18:13:45] <Drumpi> and i don't know how to compile outside of eclipse, i can try, but...
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[18:16:45] <Drumpi> OK, using cs-make (it's the make command i got from toolchain) in command window, i get the same error
[18:17:41] <Drumpi> this is the complete error:
[18:17:43] <Drumpi> arm-none-linux-gnueabi-gcc -g -Os -c -mcpu=cortex-a8 -mfpu=neon -mfloat-abi=hard
[18:17:43] <Drumpi> -c -o LEDblink.o LEDblink.c
[18:17:43] <Drumpi> arm-none-linux-gnueabi-gcc -g -c -o crt0.o crt0.S
[18:17:43] <Drumpi> arm-none-linux-gnueabi-ld -g -v -T ldscript -Map LEDblink.map -o LEDblink crt0.o
[18:17:43] <Drumpi> LEDblink.o
[18:17:43] <Drumpi> GNU ld (Sourcery G++ Lite 2009q1-203) 2.19.51.20090205
[18:17:44] <Drumpi> LEDblink.o:(.ARM.exidx+0x0): undefined reference to `__aeabi_unwind_cpp_pr0'
[18:17:44] <Drumpi> cs-make: *** [LEDblink] Error 1
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[18:19:39] <emeb> koen: is this a reasonable process for customizing my kernel? http://wh1t3s.com/oe-bitake-kernel-mods-145/
[18:19:59] <emeb> (substituting the proper kernel recipe name)
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[18:25:39] <koen> emeb: basically, yes
[18:25:55] <koen> emeb: 'virtual/kernel' will always build the correct kernel
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[18:29:18] <emeb> koen: Thanks for the tip. I'll try that next time - easier to remember than "linux-omap-psp-2.6.32-r75+gitr627293ad28604b22612f9a4a318f64cfab241e22"
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[19:05:28] <koen> hmmmm
[19:05:35] <koen> ash cloud over my office
[19:05:46] <koen> guess I'll stay in .nl a bit longer :)
[19:11:12] <emeb> no air travel for you today.
[19:16:58] <koen> my travel to linuxtag is by train, thankfully
[19:17:55] <koen> the ICE train to berlin is just awesome
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[19:22:00] <emeb> been on the train from Osnabr??ck to Schiphol a few times. Beats trains here...
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[19:23:57] <koen> it's the same train
[19:24:05] <koen> it goes from schiphol -> berlin :)
[19:24:08] <koen> (and back)
[19:24:44] <djlewis> emeb, we have passenger trains in US? I thought they wre busses on tracks.
[19:25:16] <koen> emeb: osnabruck is about 100km east from here
[19:25:28] <emeb> djlewis: my mother takes the train from her place in OR to Seattle. It breaks down a lot and she often ends up on a bus.
[19:26:12] <emeb> koen: That's pretty close. I've got family outside Osnabruck and have been to DE a few times.
[19:27:01] * koen lives pretty much at the nl de border
[19:27:42] <emeb> as I recall the nl/de border wasn't a big deal when we went through by car.
[19:28:21] <koen> it's a signpost that says "welcome to nl" next to the road
[19:29:10] <koen> emeb: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Agreement
[19:29:32] <koen> that boils down to "no borders" pretty much for europe
[19:29:45] <djlewis> a good thing here is we can drive 4828km (3000 mi) and not cross a border
[19:30:27] <djlewis> of course is Arizona keeps it up we may have one ;)
[19:30:33] <emeb> That's smart. Wish we had something like that here - US/MX and US/CA borders are getting to be a big deal.
[19:31:02] <emeb> djlewis: tell me about it. These days if you tell folks you live in AZ some act like that makes you some kind of monster.
[19:31:20] <koen> emeb: the main benefit is that it's a single economic region, so no import duties, no work visa, etc
[19:31:27] <djlewis> nope, I am actually in favor of what they are doing.
[19:31:59] <djlewis> a storm is about to hit me.
[19:33:06] <Drumpi> I must leave. I will ask again the same tomorrow.
[19:33:08] <Drumpi> bye
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[19:38:31] <emeb> koen: previous bitbake -f -c compile worked. I applied your patch from yesterday, ran make clean/make menuconfig & tried to rebuild with bitbake -f -c compile virtual/kernel & it failed. Any thoughts?
[19:39:07] <koen> it should show you the error
[19:39:18] <emeb> in the log.do_compile.xxx?
[19:39:22] <koen> you could add -D to show every output
[19:40:06] <koen> to cut down on parsing you could also do
[19:40:19] <koen> bitbake -b linux-omap-psp_2.6.32.bb -c compile -f -D
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[19:43:45] <emeb> koen: http://pastebin.com/DQbBLw5L
[19:43:56] <emeb> (results of cmd you suggested)
[19:47:09] <koen> your .config seems to be broken
[19:47:15] <emeb> indeed.
[19:47:20] <koen> do a 'ARCH=arm make oldconfig'
[19:47:29] <koen> (in the kernel dir)
[19:48:16] <koen> there's a 'defconfig' file below git/ dir you can use to replace it
[19:48:31] <koen> or -c configure -f again to blow away your changes
[19:49:27] <emeb> luckily I saved a copy of the .config. Copied it over & it's working.
[19:49:47] <emeb> Thanks for putting up with the n00b questions...
[19:49:55] <koen> you probably missed 'ARCH=arm' when doing make menuconfig
[19:50:03] <koen> so it default to your host cpu
[19:50:04] <emeb> exactly
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[19:52:06] <emeb> oops - something it didn't like about the patch.
[19:53:02] <koen> I did that patch without even trying to compile it
[19:53:30] <koen> there's an updated version at http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/OE/0045-ARM-OMAP-beagle-add-support-for-beagleFPGA-expansion.patch
[19:53:31] <emeb> I'll bang on it..
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[19:53:35] <koen> still untested
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[20:07:20] <djlewis> storm caused a temp plunge from 25.1c (77.2f) to 12.8c (55.2f)
[20:07:39] <emeb> hoo! chilly.
[20:07:45] <djlewis> in ten minutes
[20:07:46] <lifeeth> How I wish the temp was that much here.. .
[20:07:58] <djlewis> I have a hail covered yard with fog now
[20:07:59] <lifeeth> it hit 43c here today :|
[20:12:14] <prpplague> emeb: hey bud
[20:12:21] <prpplague> emeb: hows the tracker?
[20:15:22] <emeb> prpplague: everything works so far.
[20:15:38] <djlewis> 25.4mm (1inch) rain in 10 minutes
[20:16:49] <prpplague> emeb: dandy
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[20:17:53] <emeb> just trying to get it working on an up-to-date kernel now.
[20:18:29] <emeb> Still need to test the rest of the signals between beagle <-> fpga tho...
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[20:21:08] <djlewis> wanna see after storm images? http://weather.djlewis.us/files/
[20:22:33] <emeb> bit of hail there.
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[20:23:26] <emeb> big ones! Hope your car was in the garage...
[20:24:03] <djlewis> I have a tree garage :(
[20:24:23] <djlewis> I did moove it under the heavy clad oaks just before it hit.
[20:33:54] <djlewis> it is weird to see heavy fog rolling across my yard this time of year.
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[20:38:34] <noway> rcn-ee : hi , could you please get a look at this http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/b6ff81217788c4c9
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[20:40:16] <noway> *take a look
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[20:46:59] <emeb> koen: on yesterday's patch: line 41 --#include <mach/mcspi.h>, ++#include <plat/mcspi.h>
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[20:47:34] <emeb> i'll take a closer look at today's patch after testing this new kernel.
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[20:58:57] <emeb> hmmm... yesterday's patch compiles fine w/ above change. /dev/spi* nodes didn't show up though...
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[21:04:49] <RazZzZziel> does anyone know if WebOS runs on the beagleboard?
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[21:12:11] <rcn-ee> noway, yeap i looked at it.. i was going to wait for you to figure out you were in xterm...
[21:12:28] <emeb> koen: what has to happen for u-boot to pass the expansionboard_name parameter to the kernel? I'm not seeing that in the kernel args.
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[21:20:36] <rcn-ee> emeb, uboot stores it in a variable called 'buddy' so in your bootargs/etc.. buddy=${buddy} then check with "dmesg | grep expansion"
[21:21:11] <emeb> rcn-ee: thanks - I'll check.
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[21:22:09] <noway> rcn-ee : yes i think so , what am i missing ?
[21:23:43] <rcn-ee> noway, i'm assuming with out pics... looking at this: do you see "Session" change it from xterm to whatever window manager your running.. http://www.debianadmin.com/images/etchkde/1.png
[21:27:18] <emeb> rcn-ee: that worked. thanks
[21:28:12] <rcn-ee> your welcome.. took a couple tries for me.. but it's kinda nice, since you can also pull the mpurate value too with one script for all boards..
[21:31:06] <noway> rcn-ee : where should i apply the change of "Session" and what value it takes (excuse me for my stupid question )
[21:31:57] <rcn-ee> that picture is in gdm... assuming you've installed xorg, i've also assumed you've installed of the login-managers 'gdm' but you might have installed the other.....
[21:33:18] <noway> i ve done only instruction that you ve seen in the group , so i miss the gdm ?
[21:35:07] <rcn-ee> okay re-reading your email.... what do you get if you type only "xvinfo" with no "-display :0.0"
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[21:42:27] <noway> i try the two xvinfo and xvinfo -diaplay : 0.0 they didnt works the last worked for me last time
[21:43:42] <noway> rcn-ee : i get xvinfi :unable to open display
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[21:46:12] <rcn-ee> noway, so here's the problem.. on one hand, your email show's me your running xorg with "cat ... | grep omapfb" on the other, your showing you have to use the display extension with "xvinfo -display :0.0"... and konqueror doesn't work.... Which tells me you ARE NOT running Xorg, which konqueror requires...
[21:47:57] <noway> rcn-ee : yes they ve runned for me last time should i restart some thing to make them work
[21:51:06] <noway> rcn-ee it works for me right now when i ve restart
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[22:12:50] <noway> rcn-ee : with xvinfo i get unable to open display / with xvinfo -display :0.0 i get a black screen with cursor to move,
[22:14:01] <noway> rcn-ee : what should i do ?
[22:14:45] <rcn-ee> what's your setup? ... usb keyboard & mouse with dvi/lcd screen hooked up or are you still going thru a serial terminal?
[22:15:03] <noway> usb keyboard & mouse with dvi/lcd screen hooked up
[22:15:17] <noway> i have to install gdm ?
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[22:15:45] <rcn-ee> what does "sudo startx" or "startx" do?
[22:16:13] <noway> command not found
[22:18:42] <rcn-ee> wow... install gdm...
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[22:19:22] <noway> rcn-ee : its a 598 mb ,then ?
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[22:21:13] <rcn-ee> yeah... it's a meta-package that has a ton of dependences, most being xorg components...
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[22:22:02] <noway> :( it takes hours to be downloaded
[22:22:33] <noway> rcn-ee : :) gdm has quit the chat
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[22:23:03] <noway> rcn-ee : he come back
[22:23:37] <noway> rcn-ee : after downloading gdm what should i do ?
[22:23:47] <emeb> koen: tested 2nd version of 0045 patch - freezes after ".... done, booting the kernel."
[22:24:25] <emeb> 1st version works fine though (with s/mach/plat/ fix noted above)
[22:25:21] <emeb> Noticed that 2nd version tries to enable i2c2 in the beaglefpga section, but that's already working.
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[22:26:46] <noway> rcn-ee : about play video under qt browse ,some TI' s enginner told me that run with gstreamer and you con do that under debian i should use their PSP root file system and angstrom kernel
[22:26:47] <rcn-ee> noway, 3 options, start gdm, reboot watch gdm start, or ask again...
[22:27:39] <rcn-ee> noway, then run psp/angstrom...
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[22:29:09] <noway> rcn-ee :once i ve installed debian i want to continue with it , and play video with konqueror browser
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[22:31:17] <noway> rcn-ee: after install gdm what should i do to make konqueror connecting to x server ?
[22:31:21] <emeb> rcn-ee: what's std practice for setting boot args these days? I modified mmcargs in a custom boot.scr which seems to work fine.
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[22:32:30] <rcn-ee> emeb, i haven't heard otherwise, but the boot.scr is defintelly a perferred method, it's nice for moving cards between beagles and when the nandless xm shows up this summer..
[22:34:59] <noway> rcn-ee: should i install kde also ?
[22:35:26] <emeb> rcn-ee: yep - makes sense. I was getting pretty annoyed with the env vars in NAND carrying over from one card to another.
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[23:05:53] <emeb> prpplague: if you can send me the OrCAD schematic database for the Trainer I can use that as a foundation for Tracker
[23:06:46] <prpplague> emeb: hehe we are just talking about you
[23:07:03] <prpplague> emeb: we are gonna send you the libs later today
[23:08:04] <emeb> prpplague: my ears are burning... nothing bad I hope.
[23:08:14] <emeb> prpplague: libs later would be great
[23:08:47] <emeb> prpplague: got Tracker working with the current angstrom unstable branch.
[23:09:02] <emeb> Needs a small patch that koen already has.
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