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  • [00:34:24] <GrizzlyAdams> anyone in here doing the RTECC shows?
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  • [00:38:30] <ds2> GrizzlyAdams: you plan to?
  • [00:38:49] <GrizzlyAdams> i'm going to attend the one on Feb 11th
  • [00:39:18] <GrizzlyAdams> finally a QNX event I can make it to (its like 3 miles from my house)
  • [00:39:32] <GrizzlyAdams> literally within walking distance of my dayjob
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  • [00:40:18] <ds2> in AL?
  • [00:40:33] <GrizzlyAdams> thats the 9th
  • [00:40:44] <GrizzlyAdams> the 11th is in warner robins, ga
  • [00:40:56] <ds2> ah
  • [00:41:05] <GrizzlyAdams> you going to the one in al?
  • [00:41:17] <ds2> no, if I go, it'll be the santa clara one
  • [00:41:21] <GrizzlyAdams> ah
  • [00:41:25] <ds2> but the last few times I was there, it was small
  • [00:41:37] <ds2> as in walk through and talk to everyone in 45mins or less
  • [00:42:00] <GrizzlyAdams> i figure it will be small, but if nothing else there might be some free stuff bags
  • [00:42:10] <ds2> heh I see
  • [00:42:55] <ds2> might be worth a lunch time loop
  • [00:43:57] <GrizzlyAdams> well i might be able to swing getting paid to be there since we did the wifi for the conference center :D
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  • [01:46:13] <djlewis> hi GrizzlyAdams and ds2
  • [01:46:39] <mru> morning djlewis
  • [01:46:42] <djlewis> we never get electronics tech here in the mid state
  • [01:46:49] <djlewis> Well morning to you too mru
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  • [01:47:06] <mru> guess what we never get in southern england...
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  • [01:47:41] <djlewis> mru: id that area more rural and farming?
  • [01:47:44] <djlewis> is
  • [01:47:59] <mru> not that bad ;-)
  • [01:48:07] <mru> but it ain't london
  • [01:48:19] <mru> or cambridge
  • [01:48:26] <mru> that's where most of the hitech is
  • [01:49:11] <mru> that said, london is <2h away
  • [01:49:16] <djlewis> nearest hi-tech to me is Dallas Tx
  • [01:49:22] <djlewis> 5 - 6 hours
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  • [01:52:18] <ds2> hi djlewis
  • [01:52:31] <djlewis> :)
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  • [02:56:09] <djlewis> updating web pages takes so much time.
  • [02:56:48] <mru> that's why I don't have many
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  • [03:34:26] <favora> hi, all. I want to see the qt opengl es running on beagle, I followed this guide: http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/author/dcarr/, but I got an blank and green background in the middle of app after running hellogl_es2 demo. why's that?
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  • [04:03:54] <philo> so the beagle are supposed to come tomorrow ?
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  • [04:24:40] <favora> hi, all. I want to see the qt opengl es running on beagle, I followed this guide: http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/author/dcarr/, but I got an blank and green background in the middle of app after running hellogl_es2 demo. why's that?
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  • [06:08:02] <av500> gee: "...switching from a 10-pin header to a standard DB-9 serial cable connector in DTE configuration for direct use with a null modem cable,..."
  • [06:08:17] <av500> looks like I get some work done soon
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  • [06:21:07] <ds2> av500: eh?
  • [06:21:17] <ds2> why not just use a RJ45
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  • [06:24:57] <av500> ds2: at least he null modem vs 1:1 should leave us a bit occopied here in the channel :)
  • [06:25:09] <av500> damn, to early to tzpe...
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  • [06:33:02] <ds2> av500: =) just go with the rj45 wiring... then it is just a matter of straight vs twisted cables
  • [06:33:30] <av500> i dont like the eth being on usb for the xm
  • [06:33:52] <av500> mean uboot needs a full usb stack
  • [06:35:03] <av500> and usb hub do lock up from time to time
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  • [07:09:08] <ds2> huh?
  • [07:09:19] <ds2> av500: who said the ethernet is on usb?
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  • [07:10:03] <av500> "...with the addition of an on-board USB-hub device giving a 10/100 Ethernet port...."
  • [07:10:30] <av500> also: "On-board Ethernet and 3 more USB host ports"
  • [07:10:44] <av500> one of the usb ports taken by eth
  • [07:11:43] <ds2> hmmm
  • [07:11:53] <ds2> that contradicts what Koen was saying the other day
  • [07:12:48] <av500> I hope it is not on usb
  • [07:12:55] <ds2> Me too
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  • [07:25:58] <g_> rotate
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  • [07:33:02] <CruNcher> http://www.arm.com/community/display_company/rw/company/texas-instruments/ <- why is the openpandora not in that list ?
  • [07:37:40] <av500> coz its not out yet? :)
  • [07:37:59] <av500> they also miss a lot of our products :)
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  • [07:43:10] <zuencap> Hi. When a new kernel is installed, do I have to copy /boot/uImage* to fat partition as uImage?
  • [07:44:36] <av500> yup
  • [07:47:01] <zuencap> OK what if it doesn't boot? How can debug it? There is no error message on serial tty.
  • [07:48:19] <adj> is there anything on serial tty?
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  • [07:51:07] <zuencap> Normal startup messages. Last message: [ 14.193878] input: gpio-keys as /devices/platform/gpio-keys/input/input0
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  • [08:05:11] <favora> hi, I build QTE opengl es2 for beagle, but when I run hellogl_es2 demo ,it shows a blank screen with green background in the center of widget, how?
  • [08:05:37] <favora> could you get any clue?
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  • [08:18:32] <colla> Hi, I'have problem in rotating an lcd screen connected to the beagleboard. I saw the kdrive xomap should support rotation better then xorg-video-omapfb. Do you have any experience about kdrive on beagle?
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  • [08:46:36] <DJWillis> colla: hmmm, when I last tried (a LONG time ago) kDrive was very 'not clever' on OMAP3 ;-). Can't you just use DSS2 to do the rotation and let X talk to that rotated framebuffer (or do you need something more dynamic?)
  • [08:47:14] <av500> DJWillis: and have a 4x mem be overhead? unacceptable! :)
  • [08:47:19] <av500> be -> bw
  • [08:48:26] <DJWillis> av500: true
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  • [08:48:55] <_koen_> av500: there's a patch in the omapzoom repo that claims to negate that downside
  • [08:49:22] <av500> _koen_: url?
  • [08:50:19] <_koen_> http://dev.omapzoom.org/?p=integration/kernel-omap3.git;a=commitdiff;h=ceaedfd411ff0dee18a6e39ef6db209610d1a268
  • [08:51:48] <_koen_> tomba pretty much shot down all patches by that dude, so I don't know the quality of that patch
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  • [08:52:09] <av500> _koen_: ah that bit, yes, for future silicon....
  • [08:52:09] <av500> hint: + if (cpu_is_omap3630())
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  • [08:53:00] <av500> _koen_: that patch reduces it down to 2x but only on 3630...
  • [08:53:04] <colla> Djwillis: we tried but this solution is not stable. If we use DMA rotation we have GFX_FIFO_UNDERFLOW error, if we use vrfb x11 doesnot recognize it.
  • [08:53:16] <colla> we need dinymic switching
  • [08:53:20] <_koen_> av500: I'm going to take that future silicone bit with a grain of salt
  • [08:53:33] <av500> ?
  • [08:53:49] <av500> colla: DMA rotation is way to slow
  • [08:53:58] <colla> yes I saw...
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  • [08:54:16] <_koen_> av500: I've seem too much of this: if(future_silicon) // I only have this one board with future silicon
  • [08:54:32] <av500> its only use is for the small front LCD on a clamshell phone, running from internal mem
  • [08:54:36] <_koen_> xf86-video-omapfb and vrfb: http://dominion.thruhere.net/git/cgit.cgi/xf86-video-omapfb/commit/?h=koen/fixups
  • [08:54:51] <av500> _koen_: well, the dma opt was added for 36xx
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  • [08:55:26] <colla> thank you koen, I take a look
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  • [08:56:04] <_koen_> colla: eino said he'd work on that some more next week, he had to finish a paper first
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  • [08:59:25] <colla> ok Koen
  • [09:01:05] <_koen_> he's part of the stanford.edu "camere 2.0" project
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  • [09:17:23] <mobidev> hi to all
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  • [09:47:00] <CruNcher> http://tegradeveloper.nvidia.com/tegra/tegra-devkit-features
  • [09:47:00] <CruNcher> here it is mru
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  • [09:48:46] <_koen_> CruNcher: how much $$$?
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  • [09:51:25] <CruNcher> $400
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  • [09:54:00] <CruNcher> so 2x what is targeted for end consumer devices
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  • [10:02:10] <naruto> salam aleykum
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  • [10:03:50] <naruto> I am newbie in the beagleboard. i couldn't find any tutorial or directions about how to load a program to beagleboard. Please tell me if someone knows
  • [10:04:07] <CruNcher> http://www.greenecomputing.com/apps/linpack/linpack-by-device/ <- would be nice to have some beagleboard results here :)
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  • [10:06:59] <CruNcher> aleykum salam :)
  • [10:07:07] <CruNcher> http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardBeginners
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  • [10:09:18] <_koen_> CruNcher: not too bad
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  • [10:11:35] <CruNcher> nvidia is serious about this they want to be the leader
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  • [10:13:05] <tomba> _koen_: the patch I "shot down" was about fifomerge. this patch behind your link is something else
  • [10:13:20] <CruNcher> there is a lot of competition now the best situation for end consumer hehe
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  • [10:14:40] <CruNcher> and arm ofcourse :D
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  • [10:15:43] <CruNcher> though most of the chips are very similiar :P
  • [10:16:04] <CruNcher> i guess only to some degree unique is the Zii ?
  • [10:17:21] <CruNcher> at least on marketing paper the stemcell thing looks very different ;)
  • [10:17:44] <_koen_> tomba: what's the latest status on the so called 'overlay optimization' ?
  • [10:19:10] <tomba> latest I heard is that it's broken on the HW =)
  • [10:20:13] <tomba> but at some point I need to do a simple optimization, in which totally covered overlays are disabled
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  • [10:21:04] <raster> CruNcher: that soc is FAT
  • [10:21:07] <raster> i mean.. huge
  • [10:21:11] <raster> its rediculously big
  • [10:24:54] <CruNcher> not really for stuff like boxxe box but yeah for phones im sure they working on smaller versions :D
  • [10:25:32] <CruNcher> also for tablets its ok see you could replace allready the touchbook internals with that board :P
  • [10:25:52] <_koen_> raster: boo!
  • [10:26:03] <CruNcher> that said it's only a dev board
  • [10:26:08] <_koen_> raster: are you going to attend bossa?
  • [10:26:13] <raster> _koen_: burrrp
  • [10:26:20] <raster> _koen_: dont have time :/
  • [10:26:23] <raster> too busy
  • [10:26:23] <CruNcher> http://www.youtube.com/v/n9ub2-jHkJY <- see this efficiency ;)
  • [10:27:19] <CruNcher> 720p @ 300 Mhz and a 150 Mhz magic DSP ;)
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  • [10:27:50] <raster> CruNcher: not hard if u put large chunks of mp4 decode in silicon
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  • [10:28:30] <CruNcher> yep
  • [10:29:05] <CruNcher> i wonder if some 3rd party got allready 1080p working on the omap3 DSP ?
  • [10:29:11] <raster> "u can play hd video for 2 hrs"
  • [10:29:20] <raster> for a device that size... thats far from impressive
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  • [10:30:54] <CruNcher> raster ist the DSP better suited for trying to achive 1080p or would it be easier on the A8 @ 800 Mhz ?
  • [10:31:35] <raster> cant say about their dsp
  • [10:31:37] <raster> never seen it
  • [10:31:47] <raster> as such the arm core is easier
  • [10:31:50] <CruNcher> i mean the bb dsp
  • [10:31:53] <raster> u type "make"
  • [10:32:00] <raster> and just use mplayer/xine/gstreamer
  • [10:32:03] <raster> no work to be done
  • [10:32:08] <raster> for dsp - lots of work
  • [10:32:50] <_koen_> raster: font look a lot better in e17 now, dunno what changed, but thanks!
  • [10:33:40] <raster> _koen_: well if u set xft.dpi x resource - x11 engines will usse it
  • [10:33:45] <CruNcher> hehe sure inginient reached SD @ 50% utilization on the BB A8
  • [10:34:13] <CruNcher> by now i guess they should do some simple 1080p baseline :)
  • [10:34:21] <raster> u should just modify scale factor as u like it
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  • [10:40:28] <av500> CruNcher: haha
  • [10:42:20] * _koen_ has a slight WTF moment
  • [10:42:33] <_koen_> my beagle is way more stable at 600MHz than at 500MHz
  • [10:42:52] * _koen_ suspects bad sdrc timings in the cpufreq table
  • [10:46:10] <CruNcher> av500 did you see the new Archos competition :) ?
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  • [10:46:26] <CruNcher> with the Coretex A8 ;)
  • [10:46:39] <av500> I prefer GoreTex
  • [10:47:00] <CruNcher> http://myviliv.com/eng/img/product/ces2010/06.jpg
  • [10:47:23] <CruNcher> only GPs is missing ;)
  • [10:47:24] <_koen_> 720p on 3.7"
  • [10:47:25] <_koen_> right
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  • [10:47:33] * _koen_ loves his 5" archos
  • [10:47:39] <av500> _koen_: saves you the transcode
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  • [10:47:47] <CruNcher> hehe
  • [10:48:23] <av500> and no 1080p? these guys are lame
  • [10:48:38] <CruNcher> telechip
  • [10:48:40] <_koen_> av500: I was making a play at the ad saying 1280x720p support right below the LCD specs
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  • [10:52:05] <_koen_> http://projectkennel.com/blog/ looks pretty neat
  • [10:52:29] <CruNcher> hmm 4h uptime played AAC SBR charge left 70% display off
  • [10:54:26] <CruNcher> mediaserver consumed the most cpu obvously
  • [10:55:10] <CruNcher> usertime 45m sys 9m total = 54m
  • [11:00:59] <av500> 4500mAh...
  • [11:01:01] <av500> impressive
  • [11:02:04] <av500> CruNcher: ???
  • [11:07:27] <CruNcher> AAC SBR playback on the Archos5 IT with Donut
  • [11:08:17] <av500> ah
  • [11:08:26] <av500> using the android music player?
  • [11:08:28] <CruNcher> 4H = 30% discharge
  • [11:08:46] <CruNcher> yep
  • [11:08:54] <CruNcher> via mixzing lite
  • [11:09:16] <CruNcher> with display off
  • [11:11:02] <CruNcher> sound was bellow half with the supplied headphones :)
  • [11:11:38] <CruNcher> airplane mode
  • [11:12:02] <CruNcher> avos still consumed some cpu
  • [11:12:36] <av500> yes
  • [11:13:12] <CruNcher> for what ?
  • [11:13:32] <av500> s3cr3t stuff
  • [11:13:42] <qball> privacy invasion.
  • [11:13:46] <av500> it puts a watermark in what you listen too so you cant tape it
  • [11:13:55] <CruNcher> :P
  • [11:15:11] <CruNcher> user = 12m sys = 14m
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  • [11:15:22] <CruNcher> 27m total
  • [11:15:46] <CruNcher> half of the mediaserver consumption
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  • [11:35:02] <CruNcher> hmm
  • [11:35:04] <CruNcher> download ?
  • [11:35:29] <CruNcher> av500 i guess download checks for the firmware update ?
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  • [11:47:26] <hrw> morning
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  • [12:12:03] <paulg_> hello everyone
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  • [12:15:13] <paulg_> the cross compiler built has hardwired include paths to the staging directory. If i wanted to copy the cross directory and some of the staging header directories to another PC do i need to set some environment varies for new include paths?
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  • [12:16:21] <paulg_> *that should have been 'variables'
  • [12:20:10] <paulg_> Do i just need to change the C_INCLUDE_PATH, CPLUS_INCLUDE_PATH environment variables to point to the new location? or is it not that simple.
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  • [12:44:04] <vhallac> Hello
  • [12:44:27] <vhallac> I have a question about kernel configuration for an OMAP3 hardware. Related to USB drivers to include.
  • [12:44:48] <vhallac> Should I ask here, or is there a more generic OMAP IRC area?
  • [12:46:14] <av500> ask
  • [12:46:39] <vhallac> The board has only the OTG port. The plan is to use an external hub with it.
  • [12:46:53] <vhallac> Is the EHCI option necessary for this setup?
  • [12:47:06] <mru> av500: is it ok to ask if I can ask a question?
  • [12:47:42] <vhallac> msru: Kind of. But the main question hidden there was "is there a more relevant IRC channel" :)
  • [12:48:54] <vhallac> And maybe there is. I found the #linux-omap. Let me ask there too. :)
  • [12:49:13] <av500> mru: please ask 1st
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  • [13:52:59] <koczis> hi all, anyone interested in ARM/Cortex talk? - have a few questions...
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  • [13:55:02] <av500> koczis: ask
  • [13:56:22] <koczis> I have questions about interrupt handling and interaction between Cortex Core and peripherals in STM32
  • [13:56:31] <koczis> the 1st is: do I have to clear pending flags early or lately
  • [13:57:00] <av500> err
  • [13:57:04] <av500> STM32 is what?
  • [13:57:11] <koczis> Cortex-M3
  • [13:57:15] <koczis> STMicro
  • [13:57:35] <av500> hmm, I'm afraid until that grows up to an Cortex A8 you will be out of luck here...
  • [13:58:43] <av500> but usually stuff like that depends on whether you want stuff like nested interrupts etc...
  • [13:59:15] <koczis> I'm not sure yet - does Cortex-A8 have Nested Interrupt Controller?
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  • [13:59:42] <av500> koczis: the A8 is a totally different beast
  • [14:00:02] <av500> so asking about M3 here will not help you much
  • [14:00:19] <av500> and most ppl here dont care, linux takes care of IRQs nicely...
  • [14:01:48] <koczis> ok, I already visited several channels and everyone is way out of hardware unfortunately - people recommended mi this channel
  • [14:02:06] * mru suggests reading the manual
  • [14:02:25] <koczis> yeah, ... and everyone is sure - I havent RTFM
  • [14:03:31] <koczis> ok, may I ask you about A8?
  • [14:03:33] <av500> koczis: the STM might well have a totally different irq controller than e.g. another m3...
  • [14:03:42] <av500> so RTFM it is
  • [14:04:09] <koczis> ebery M3 has NVIC controller
  • [14:04:24] <koczis> so they share at least that
  • [14:04:26] <av500> ok
  • [14:04:38] <koczis> but hey - I already moved to A8 questions
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  • [14:04:51] <av500> no, you asked whether you could move to a8...
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  • [14:05:10] <koczis> [15:03] ok, may I ask you about A8?
  • [14:05:43] <koczis> how do you write a simple peripheral irq handler
  • [14:05:46] <koczis> ?
  • [14:06:14] <koczis> I mean clearing pending flags mostly
  • [14:06:35] <av500> [15:00] <av500> and most ppl here dont care, linux takes care of IRQs nicely...
  • [14:06:51] <av500> koczis: I have no idea
  • [14:06:51] <koczis> ok, thanks
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  • [14:06:59] <av500> wow
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  • [14:23:49] <jkridner> good morning all
  • [14:23:54] <mru> morning
  • [14:23:56] <jkridner> hi ppotera
  • [14:24:00] <jkridner> hi mru
  • [14:24:07] <ppotera> hi jkridner
  • [14:25:38] <hrw> elo jkridner
  • [14:25:54] <jkridner> hi hrw
  • [14:26:10] <jkridner> mru, _koen_, sakoman: any votes this week?
  • [14:26:22] <av500> jkridner: the XM, the ethernet is on usb or not?
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  • [14:27:12] <jkridner> it is. it is in the hub device.
  • [14:27:32] <ppotera> did you settle on a particular chip yet?
  • [14:27:46] <jkridner> I think it is the same one that is on the USB hub that Special Computing sells.
  • [14:27:52] <jkridner> I'll find out which chip.
  • [14:28:18] <jkridner> actually, the fastest way to get the answer is to send an e-mail to the list, because that is how to get Gerald to respond.
  • [14:28:28] <jkridner> he'll respond as fast to the list as he will to me. :)
  • [14:29:01] <ppotera> will do
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  • [14:45:34] <mru> jkridner: voted
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  • [15:14:23] <sakoman_> jkridner: voted
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  • [15:14:52] <wandern> Morning, Beaglers
  • [15:15:26] <jkridner> danke herr sakoman_
  • [15:15:51] <prpplague> greetings earthlings
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  • [15:26:04] <av500> so it is eth over usb.....
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  • [15:42:26] <wandern> av500: Hmm.. I'm not excited over that.
  • [15:42:48] <wandern> av500: I guess if USB always works, that's the easiest bus to use
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  • [15:43:52] <av500> wandern: me neither, would have preffered eth directly on omap3
  • [15:44:39] <wandern> av500: how does the ethernet on tobi connected?
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  • [15:44:56] <av500> tobi?
  • [15:44:58] <wandern> I didn't think it was via USB internally
  • [15:45:05] <wandern> gumstix board for overo
  • [15:45:13] <wandern> also omap3530
  • [15:45:26] <av500> i think gpmv
  • [15:45:28] <av500> i think gpmc
  • [15:45:37] <av500> sakoman_: ?
  • [15:46:31] <sakoman_> it is connected by gpmc
  • [15:46:33] <wandern> I thought gpmc was only used for the micron memory?
  • [15:46:39] <av500> wandern: no
  • [15:46:43] <wandern> but sakoman would know ;)
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  • [15:47:41] <sakoman_> av500: defintely gpmc. performance is pretty good too
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  • [15:48:52] <sakoman_> Write 94 Mbits/sec
  • [15:49:02] <sakoman_> Read 89 Mbits/sec
  • [15:49:10] <av500> yup
  • [15:49:16] <jkridner> ppotera: guess you saw SMSC9514?
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  • [15:49:25] <ppotera> yup
  • [15:49:26] <pabl0_> hi, does anyone know if digi-key is distributing the new rev c4 boards ?
  • [15:49:31] <av500> jkridner: yup and not happy
  • [15:49:33] <sakoman_> tobi uses 9221 iirc
  • [15:49:48] <jkridner> doh!
  • [15:49:51] <hrw> sakoman_: awesome speed
  • [15:50:05] <ppotera> pabl0_: as far as I remember, Gerald said that digi-key is receiving them today
  • [15:50:18] <jkridner> what is tobi?
  • [15:50:18] <pabl0_> great
  • [15:50:25] <sakoman_> yeah, wish my dsl connection was that good :-)
  • [15:50:26] <ppotera> I don't know if that means they will start shipping them same day
  • [15:50:42] <sakoman_> jkridner: tobi is an Overo add-on board
  • [15:50:51] <ppotera> kwikbyte has ax88772 on it
  • [15:50:53] <jkridner> ah, catching up now.
  • [15:51:28] <sakoman_> jkridner: http://www.gumstix.com/store/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=230
  • [15:51:58] <sakoman_> upcoming version has rtc battery too
  • [15:52:32] <prpplague> ppotera: i've used the 88772 on several other projects and have had pretty darn good results from it
  • [15:52:38] <sakoman_> jkridner: Tobi is what I use to do most of my development these days
  • [15:52:47] <sakoman_> the fast ethernet is really nice
  • [15:53:11] <av500> and uboot supports it?
  • [15:53:16] <av500> i guess
  • [15:53:17] <sakoman_> yes
  • [15:53:28] <prpplague> nice
  • [15:53:39] <av500> so somebody has to teach uboot the ehci for the XM ....
  • [15:53:39] <sakoman_> patches are in u-boot mainline
  • [15:53:54] <sakoman_> av500: not me :-)
  • [15:54:01] <prpplague> sakoman_: zippy2 should be available from digikey soon, but it won't get the performance you are getting with tobi
  • [15:54:27] <av500> prpplague: I want my money back
  • [15:54:42] <prpplague> av500: ??
  • [15:54:47] <av500> :)
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  • [15:55:53] <sakoman_> he has the old zippy and is cranky that there is a new, better version
  • [15:56:04] <av500> sakoman_: ask your money back too :)
  • [15:56:20] <maelcum> kblin: ping
  • [15:56:20] <prpplague> av500: ahh didn't realize you purchased one
  • [15:56:20] <sakoman_> me too, I want every last penny back!
  • [15:56:28] <prpplague> sakoman_: hehe
  • [15:56:36] <av500> prpplague: well, I didnt :)
  • [15:56:47] <av500> so, just pay me the difference....
  • [15:56:50] <prpplague> hehe
  • [15:57:06] <sakoman_> prpplague: now that my beagle is dead I have a zippy with nothing to plug it in to :-(
  • [15:57:17] <prpplague> zippy is sponsored by micrel since it uses their spi->ethernet chipset
  • [15:57:25] <prpplague> sakoman_: doh
  • [15:57:31] <prpplague> sakoman_: or the trainer board
  • [15:57:43] <sakoman_> precisely :-(
  • [15:58:01] <prpplague> sakoman_: you picking up a fresh one soon?
  • [15:58:13] <prpplague> sakoman_: the twl4030 is toast?
  • [15:58:22] <sakoman_> yeah, after the order surge subsides
  • [15:58:38] <sakoman_> prpplague: yes it gets extremely toasty
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  • [15:59:23] <ppotera> if you put an 80mm case fan on top of beagle, would it fly?
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  • [16:01:47] <ppotera> I'd need a stabilising propeller ;)
  • [16:02:46] <av500> ppotera: use 4 of them
  • [16:02:59] <av500> and use the omap3 to do the control thingy
  • [16:03:40] <prpplague> i'm still open to suggestions about the ShowDog if any has comments, probably put pins in the features monday or tuesday of next week
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  • [16:06:28] <_koen_> prpplague: 42" 1080p plasma
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  • [16:06:50] <prpplague> ~lart _koen_
  • [16:07:23] <av500> _koen_: save that for the omap4 model
  • [16:07:36] <av500> it would be a bit of a waste for the current BB
  • [16:07:39] <mru> yeah, 720p is enough on omap3
  • [16:07:56] <_koen_> ok
  • [16:07:57] <prpplague> _koen_: i think we have just about decided to do a basic board with 4 buttons and the lcd, with pcb pads for people to add other items such as leds, more buttons, and joystick
  • [16:07:58] <av500> "...720p is enough for everybody..."
  • [16:08:02] <_koen_> 32" 720p
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  • [16:08:21] <prpplague> _koen_: this way people can get the board and if they want more they can add to it
  • [16:08:30] <av500> prpplague: I just misread: "i think we have just about decided to do a basic board with 4 buttons and no lcd..."
  • [16:08:50] <prpplague> av500: hehe
  • [16:09:20] <prpplague> the big thing now is deciding on the mechanical
  • [16:09:38] <av500> prpplague: why not make a board that brings out all the io on solder pads and them.... .um....well....
  • [16:09:59] <prpplague> av500: ??
  • [16:10:07] <av500> its called trainer, no? :)
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  • [16:10:27] <prpplague> av500: the trainer doesn't interface with the lcd lines
  • [16:10:55] <av500> it does, with a 4x20 LCD :=
  • [16:10:56] <prpplague> av500: the pads for the extra items on the showdog would already be laid out so all you had to do is insert the module and solder it into place
  • [16:11:01] <av500> prpplague: ok
  • [16:11:11] <prpplague> av500: indeed
  • [16:12:03] <prpplague> we plan to have pads for the following devices: http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=9032
  • [16:12:18] <prpplague> http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=9119
  • [16:12:36] <prpplague> http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=97
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  • [16:12:57] <jkridner> I think someone asked if the plan was to include the connectors soldered down on the BeagleBoard XM and the answer is yes. I believe female on the bottom-side. Always best to confirm with Gerald on the e-mail list.
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  • [16:13:06] <prpplague> http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=8579
  • [16:13:23] <kblin> maelcum: pong
  • [16:13:25] <jkridner> prpplague: fun!
  • [16:13:33] <prpplague> jkridner: right that was my understanding, just wanted to make sure it was still the case
  • [16:13:49] <prpplague> jkridner: i'm open to other suggestions
  • [16:14:20] <prpplague> jkridner: i was also considering a pwm buzzer
  • [16:15:09] <prpplague> jkridner: as well as a DPDT relay
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  • [16:19:25] <prpplague> av500: my thought was to do the showdog board in a similar form as the PSP and have the beagle plug into the back of it
  • [16:23:23] <maelcum> kblin: reping
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  • [16:29:55] <maelcum> kblin: nex try :)
  • [16:29:59] <maelcum> *next
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  • [16:32:16] <kblin> maelcum: repong then :)
  • [16:33:52] <maelcum> kblin: did you find out anything new about the usb lockup problem?
  • [16:34:15] <wandern> heh... just got back and read "female" and "bottom" in the same sentence
  • [16:34:20] <wandern> and wondered what I'd missed
  • [16:34:36] <maelcum> i'm currently using this kernel: http://rcn-ee.net/deb/kernel/beagle/karmic/v2.6.33-rc3-0.0/
  • [16:35:39] <maelcum> it seems to be "more stable" as in takes a few hours to crash under my distributed compile load.
  • [16:35:59] <kblin> maelcum: 2.6.31.5-x5.3 seems fine for me
  • [16:36:22] <maelcum> gah
  • [16:37:04] <maelcum> the oscilations between working and not working between consecutive versions indicate that nobody knows what is *really* going on imho.
  • [16:37:11] <kblin> but I have to admit that I've moved the most of my fileserving to the sheevaplug I got back from RMA, so I don't think I've tested a few hours worth of traffic
  • [16:37:43] <kblin> but I can give it a try over the weekend :)
  • [16:38:24] <maelcum> there are a few commits from a certain Sergei Shtylyov in drivers/usb/musb and that guy seems to actually know what he's doing...
  • [16:38:40] <maelcum> (a few cleanups, spotting logic errors and code duplication etc)
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  • [16:38:55] <maelcum> as opposed to "make $random_usb_gadget work lol"
  • [16:39:30] <maelcum> so i'm considering contacting that guy with an offer of testing and supplying as much data as possible
  • [16:40:18] <kblin> sounds reasonable
  • [16:41:16] <kblin> I'll go and run some smbtorture nbench benchmarks over the weekend, wanted to give that a go anyway
  • [16:41:42] <maelcum> thanks, i'll ask you about it in a few days :)
  • [16:41:48] <jkridner> prpplague: I wouldn't care about a PWM buzzer, but love the idea of a DPDT relay. a PWM for motor control, on the other hand, would be handy.
  • [16:42:38] <prpplague> jkridner: on the same board as the ShowDog, or something else?
  • [16:48:17] <jkridner> prpplague: not sure what board. I'd ideally like it on a board with some bread-board area.
  • [16:49:05] <prpplague> jkridner: ahh well you could use the stuff from sparkfun with the trainer board
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  • [16:56:35] <jkridner> k
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  • [17:00:54] <hrw> _koen_: how big is your .32 kernel for BB?
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  • [17:15:07] <prpplague> hmm, iproute2 oe recipe needs to be updated.....
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  • [17:21:27] <sakoman_> hrw: my combination overo/beagle 2.6.32 image is 3174996 bytes
  • [17:23:00] <hrw> I got over 7MB
  • [17:24:13] <hrw> ok, ~3MB now
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  • [17:24:33] <florian> prpplague: indeed
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  • [17:25:00] <prpplague> florian: current version in OE doesn't support can bus
  • [17:26:06] <florian> prpplague: Isn't there one that pulls from git?
  • [17:26:19] <florian> I remember I ran into exactly this problem some weeks ago.
  • [17:26:22] <prpplague> i didn't see one, but i'll double check
  • [17:26:38] <prpplague> florian: nope i don't see a git
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  • [17:27:22] <florian> prpplague: let me check, I'm quite sure I solved this somehow
  • [17:27:29] <florian> and i used can
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  • [17:29:10] <prpplague> florian: were you interested in adding can support to the busybox->ip
  • [17:30:21] <florian> prpplague: Just found it... I did not commit this to upstream OE. I guess I shoudl do this now :)
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  • [17:32:02] <prpplague> florian: git or for .31 ?
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  • [17:32:57] <florian> prpplague: I have a git recipe which might be useful anyway... but .31 might be easy too.
  • [17:33:45] <prpplague> yea almost finished with .31
  • [17:36:32] <hrw> Starting udev[ 90.200836] BUG: soft lockup - CPU#0 stuck for 61s! [modprobe:823]
  • [17:36:37] <hrw> someone had it with .32?
  • [17:37:07] <florian> prpplague: even better since I can't easily test the git one with current .dev
  • [17:37:54] <florian> hrw: yes I have seen a similar error yesterday.
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  • [17:38:38] <florian> hrw: This happened after a broken nand driver froze the device... but it took much longer for the message to show up.
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  • [17:40:24] <hrw> ok, so I will go with other uboot and 2.6.29
  • [17:43:08] <sakoman_> hrw: I don't see that with my 2.6.32 build
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  • [17:43:20] <hrw> sakoman_: I did not had that 20 minutes ago
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  • [18:40:00] <DaveDavenport> evening
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  • [19:05:04] <alextisserant> hello
  • [19:06:08] <alextisserant> I'm looking for VoIP codecs available for beagleboard platform
  • [19:06:53] <alextisserant> I got H264/263 for video, but I'm looking for G722, G711 and G729
  • [19:07:33] <alextisserant> does anyone know whether they exist / we can get them?
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  • [19:11:31] <DaveDavenport> hrw: I had that
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  • [19:14:48] <DaveDavenport> solution is welcome
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  • [19:42:27] <maelcum> alextisserant: that's an interesting problem given that h264 is the king of codecs and h263 is the "standard" videophone codec :)
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  • [20:15:10] <philo> have digi-key receive the baord yet ?
  • [20:16:33] <DaveDavenport> hrw: lemme know
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  • [21:10:07] <_av500_> alextisserant: there should be open src codecs like ffmpeg
  • [21:12:04] <alextisserant> _av500_: yes I was wondering if it could make it
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