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  • [01:45:05] <djlewis> sakoman: this latest gnome takes a while to un tar...
  • [01:45:32] <djlewis> I'm looking forward to having a look at it.
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  • [02:00:15] <djlewis> hmmm, all my nearby ac outlets are taken.. :(
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  • [02:33:43] <Aditya1> felipec: Do you know where I can get a copy of dspbridge_dsp.tar.gz?
  • [02:33:56] <Aditya1> cause so far I just keep getting "Permission Denied" on the TI forge site
  • [02:37:02] <djlewis> Aditya1: did you register with TI?
  • [02:37:13] <Aditya1> yeah I made an accout on the forge site
  • [02:37:19] <Aditya1> and I Am logged in
  • [02:50:17] <Aditya1> nm
  • [02:50:19] <Aditya1> you can get it from git
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  • [02:50:35] <djlewis> cool
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  • [03:12:41] <Aditya1> damnit
  • [03:12:45] <Aditya1> compiled and everything
  • [03:12:52] <Aditya1> only to see main() dsp open failed
  • [03:12:53] <Aditya1> :(
  • [03:13:12] <djlewis> iirc there is a setting to be done first
  • [03:13:27] <Aditya1> huh?
  • [03:13:35] <djlewis> looking in notes
  • [03:21:19] <djlewis> iirc it has to do with reserving memory but dont qoute me on that.
  • [03:21:25] <djlewis> still looking for notes.
  • [03:21:52] <Aditya1> well I've changed the bootargs so the acutal system only uses 88M of ram
  • [03:21:55] <Aditya1> so the rest of it can be used for the DSP
  • [03:22:27] <djlewis> hmm
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  • [03:25:45] <Aditya1> I need to get a hold of felipec
  • [03:26:00] <Aditya1> atleast figure out what distro he's using
  • [03:26:28] <djlewis> Aditya1: meanwhile: http://markmail.org/thread/27dmxgzrczjepick#query:koen%20using%20dsp%20beagleboard+page:1+mid:uxaejy26xeb6tbtz+state:results
  • [03:26:58] <ds2> djlewis: becareful there!
  • [03:27:11] <Aditya1> djlewis: this shouldn't be doing anything with the display
  • [03:27:38] <ds2> do not mix koen's suggestions with felipec's
  • [03:27:40] <djlewis> Aditya1: never mind my link then.
  • [03:28:00] <Aditya1> ds2: any idea what distro felipec is using?
  • [03:28:08] <Aditya1> I remmeber using it once but it was like a barebones command line
  • [03:28:13] <Aditya1> and I couldn't figure out what distro
  • [03:28:24] <ds2> Aditya1: it isn't a distro thing... the are 2 ways of talking to the DSP on the OMAP3
  • [03:28:32] <ds2> felipec and koen are using different ways
  • [03:28:42] <Aditya1> dsplink vs dspbridge?
  • [03:28:46] <ds2> yes
  • [03:29:03] <Aditya1> one better than the other?
  • [03:29:06] <ds2> link is prefered for mere mortals
  • [03:29:19] <ds2> yes, but in non technical ways
  • [03:29:30] <Aditya1> what do you mean?
  • [03:29:46] <ds2> there are historic issues
  • [03:30:43] <ds2> sorry, I do not want to start a war over non technical issues... the vagueness is deliberate
  • [03:34:58] <ds2> djlewis: how goes your projects?
  • [03:35:47] <djlewis> hi ds2 , I been distracted by a Sony laptop restoring data for a client.
  • [03:36:36] <djlewis> he gave it to me for my efforts. So I am making a system factory restore now
  • [03:36:43] <ds2> djlewis: fun
  • [03:36:54] <djlewis> before I blow vista away and put a good fs on it.
  • [03:37:03] <ds2> ewwwwwwwwww x86
  • [03:37:20] <djlewis> it is a P dual 1.6G
  • [03:37:31] <ds2> sounds like a space heater ;)
  • [03:37:37] <djlewis> 96W
  • [03:37:54] <djlewis> but I need space heaters this time of year
  • [03:38:19] <ds2> heh
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  • [03:38:32] <djlewis> This Centrino dual I am using now throttles itself
  • [03:38:56] <ds2> 96s is more then 10 BB's
  • [03:39:29] <djlewis> If I had the smarts to have BB's sync data I'd be there.
  • [03:40:09] <djlewis> like two BB's a cam on each, using hi-speed xfer of image data to a common BB for processing ;)
  • [03:40:32] <djlewis> spio comes to mind
  • [03:41:10] <ds2> I'd do 2 cams on 1 board and have parallel processing
  • [03:41:28] <djlewis> sorry earlier, didnt think about confusing the situation with dsp
  • [03:41:33] <ds2> or prehaps a 2 leopards as the cameras
  • [03:41:38] <djlewis> yep
  • [03:41:39] <ds2> confusion is fun :D
  • [03:42:06] <ds2> now is actually the time to work on solar power beagles
  • [03:42:17] <djlewis> not for this area :(
  • [03:42:30] <ds2> you do get sun in the summer, right?
  • [03:42:45] <djlewis> seems like we have had cloud cover and rain for over 70% of this year
  • [03:42:52] <ds2> Oh
  • [03:42:57] <djlewis> unusual though
  • [03:43:02] <ds2> get enough wind?
  • [03:43:06] <djlewis> usually 50/50
  • [03:43:22] <djlewis> on these cold winter fronts... brrr.
  • [03:43:36] <ds2> I see
  • [03:43:38] <djlewis> we dont get steady winds either
  • [03:44:00] <djlewis> geothermal works
  • [03:44:07] <djlewis> I dont have any
  • [03:44:20] <ds2> your area has geothermal?
  • [03:44:29] <Aditya1> meh
  • [03:44:32] <djlewis> we have Hot Springs AR with real running hot springs but it is all taken
  • [03:44:40] <ds2> nice
  • [03:44:42] <Aditya1> I really wish this stuff would work for goddamn once
  • [03:44:51] <Aditya1> nothing has worked so far
  • [03:44:59] <ds2> Aditya1: just a matter of time
  • [03:45:13] <Aditya1> and apparently knowing what to do
  • [03:45:18] <Aditya1> cuase I dont with some of these failures
  • [03:45:26] <ds2> Aditya1: what are you trying to do?
  • [03:45:26] <djlewis> ds2: geothermal in the sense of 6ft under is constant temp
  • [03:45:47] <ds2> djlewis: sounds like prefect for a heat pump?
  • [03:45:47] <Aditya1> I am trying to write applications that will use the DSP
  • [03:46:11] <ds2> Aditya1: setup link with OE
  • [03:46:21] <Aditya1> that would be nice
  • [03:46:25] <djlewis> ds2: i should dig a deep hole for mine. It wont put out heat with below 42f temp
  • [03:46:27] <Aditya1> if OE Would actually build without errors
  • [03:46:30] <Aditya1> which ... it doesn't
  • [03:46:46] <ds2> djlewis: hmmm
  • [03:47:02] <Aditya1> it'd be nice if there was like a wiki page that said "this kernel version, this list of modules" etc
  • [03:47:16] <Aditya1> like for a vanilla install of ubuntu or debian etc
  • [03:47:19] * djlewis has to switch over to electric element heat below 42F
  • [03:47:25] <djlewis> COSTLY!
  • [03:47:44] <ds2> I see
  • [03:48:22] <ds2> djlewis: can you go deeper and feed water to get steam?
  • [03:49:08] <djlewis> no way, long way down to heat
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  • [03:49:51] <djlewis> Hot Spgs Ar is the only place there is hot water from earth and it is at about 128F
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  • [03:50:29] <ds2> that's it?
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  • [03:57:32] <djlewis> just boooted Sony laptop with Ubuntu 9.10 thumb drive
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  • [04:41:23] <Aditya1> hmm
  • [04:41:27] <Aditya1> compiling dsplink samples
  • [04:41:34] <Aditya1> they cant find std.h
  • [04:41:40] <Aditya1> but its there in the include dir
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  • [04:41:48] <Aditya1> will adding the include dir tot eh PATH fix that?
  • [04:43:37] <djlewis> where does it want it to be?
  • [04:43:45] <Aditya1> I dunno
  • [04:43:49] <Aditya1> its just an #include <std.h>
  • [04:43:56] <Aditya1> tryig to figure out what it considers the include path
  • [04:51:19] <Aditya1> hmm
  • [04:51:31] <Aditya1> toolchain from code sourcery definitely doesn't have it
  • [04:53:49] <mru> std.h is certainly no standard header
  • [04:54:35] <mru> topi_: imo neon is much better than altivec
  • [05:01:05] <Aditya1> goddamnit
  • [05:01:16] <Aditya1> the samples seem to be using /opt/ti-tools for w/e reason
  • [05:01:24] <Aditya1> which is... non existsnt
  • [05:01:25] <Aditya1> * sigh *
  • [05:05:40] <Aditya1> building samples!
  • [05:05:45] <Aditya1> hopefully they run lol
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  • [05:35:23] <Aditya1> hmm
  • [05:35:25] <Aditya1> nope
  • [05:35:28] <Aditya1> of course it doesn
  • [05:35:30] <Aditya1> t
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  • [05:56:36] <Aditya1> atleast I can sort of debug these
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  • [06:02:35] <spvensko> what's up with the perceived shortage of BBs? are they about to release a new one so production has ceased or something?
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  • [06:27:58] <_av500_> Aditya1: std.h is a ti header
  • [06:28:05] <Aditya1> yeah
  • [06:28:10] <Aditya1> I overcame that hurdle
  • [06:28:22] <_av500_> and yes, i would guess the ti stuff would assume a certain folder layouzt
  • [06:28:35] <Aditya1> now compiling a kernel image with omap3_beagle_defconfig
  • [06:28:44] <_av500_> k
  • [06:28:53] <Aditya1> after which hopefully I can compile dsplinkk.ko
  • [06:29:06] <_av500_> ok
  • [06:29:25] <_av500_> butthat should be ok in oe
  • [06:29:42] <Aditya1> the dsp samples compiled fine, but some posts said they might give this PROC_setup error if the dsplinkk module is not the same version as the ones the samples were built in
  • [06:29:57] <Aditya1> and I have no idea what the dsplinkk modules in the online image builder ones are..
  • [06:30:05] <Aditya1> what should be ok in oe?
  • [06:31:03] <_av500_> building dsplink
  • [06:31:28] <_av500_> if you are using oe
  • [06:32:00] <_av500_> but i build dsplink here outside of oe and that works too
  • [06:32:15] <_av500_> mainly telling it where the kernel and toolchain is
  • [06:32:52] <Aditya1> yeah so far compiling
  • [06:34:25] <_av500_> then u need cmem and lpm too
  • [06:37:20] <Aditya1> http://ossie.wireless.vt.edu/trac/wiki/BeagleBoard_DSPLink
  • [06:37:23] <Aditya1> thats what I am doing
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  • [06:37:31] <Aditya1> they dont talk about making cmemk?
  • [06:43:15] <GrizzlyAdams> :D beagleboard is top of make's development platforms and tools list for 2009
  • [06:43:16] <GrizzlyAdams> http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2009/12/development_platforms_and_tools_ope.html
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  • [06:48:44] <_av500_> Aditya1: right, no cmem used there
  • [06:49:03] <_av500_> u will certainly need it if doing stuff like codec engine, but seems that
  • [06:49:09] <_av500_> pure dsplink does not need it
  • [06:49:40] <_av500_> if you want to share large amounts of data between arm and dsp, sending it all over dsplink msg channels will not work
  • [06:49:46] <_av500_> then you need cmem
  • [06:49:51] <Aditya1> ah
  • [06:50:05] <_av500_> or something equivalent
  • [06:50:11] <Aditya1> so for image processing I will need cmem?
  • [06:50:18] <_av500_> id guess so
  • [06:50:28] <Aditya1> is cmem something thats oe specific?
  • [06:50:36] <_av500_> nope
  • [06:50:40] <Aditya1> or is that something I can build outside OE too? like dsplinkk
  • [06:50:46] <_av500_> sure
  • [06:50:50] <Aditya1> cool
  • [06:50:51] <Aditya1> well
  • [06:50:54] <_av500_> it is part of the linux-tools
  • [06:51:03] <Aditya1> once I can get dsplinkk working
  • [06:51:09] <_av500_> right
  • [06:51:18] <Aditya1> I can move onto doing something more than just passing "hello" around :P
  • [06:51:36] <_av500_> i only use dsplink via codec engine, standalone dsplink i never tried
  • [06:51:55] <Aditya1> I am mostly trying to use the DSP period
  • [06:52:00] <Aditya1> so far OE bitbake hates me
  • [06:52:56] <_av500_> worked for me when i tried it once
  • [06:53:09] <Aditya1> well I hear that a lot
  • [06:58:46] <Aditya1> only prob being it never seems to work for me
  • [07:00:33] <_av500_> :)
  • [07:00:41] <_av500_> err :(
  • [07:00:48] <Aditya1> I see how it is
  • [07:01:14] <Aditya1> laugh at my face why dont you
  • [07:08:55] <Aditya1> * sigh * I dont think this is going to work either
  • [07:09:00] <Aditya1> invalid module format errors
  • [07:09:01] <Aditya1> yay
  • [07:11:15] <_av500_> ?
  • [07:11:22] <Aditya1> nothing
  • [07:11:43] <_av500_> u built kernel as well?
  • [07:11:45] <Aditya1> dsplinkk.ko cant be loaded because its disagrees about version of symbol struct_module
  • [07:11:49] <Aditya1> no
  • [07:11:59] <Aditya1> but I think I might have to use the kernel I build too
  • [07:12:04] <_av500_> yep
  • [07:12:08] <Aditya1> instead of just using w/e I got from the online builder
  • [07:12:12] <_av500_> modules and kernel need to match
  • [07:12:17] <Aditya1> thats not too bad I suppose
  • [07:12:22] <_av500_> no
  • [07:12:24] <Aditya1> cuase the rootfs should still work right?
  • [07:12:28] <_av500_> thats just linux
  • [07:12:41] <Aditya1> whats just linux?
  • [07:12:50] <_av500_> modules and kernel need to match
  • [07:13:13] <_av500_> rootfs should still work
  • [07:13:14] <_av500_> bbl
  • [07:13:55] <GrizzlyAdams> its often several releases between a forced upgrade to userland tools
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  • [07:37:44] <_av500_> Aditya1: if you replace the kernel, u also need to put the newly built modules into the rootfs
  • [07:41:14] <GrizzlyAdams> unless you build a monolithic kernel
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  • [07:47:30] <Aditya1> well uImage is built
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  • [09:07:07] <lifeeth> rkirti, came over to foss.in?
  • [09:07:39] <rkirti> lifeeth: was stuck up with placement season work here (as co-ord). Lots of iitm at foss.in though.
  • [09:09:40] <lifeeth> rkirti, yeah.. met kstar and co
  • [09:16:10] <virals1> lifeeth: i was at foss.in
  • [09:16:25] <lifeeth> virals1, ah! nice .. did I meet you at the stall?
  • [09:17:00] <virals1> lifeeth: may be ... my real name is viral sachde, u can see my face sachde.com too :)
  • [09:17:08] <virals1> lifeeth: do u think we met ?
  • [09:17:57] <lifeeth> virals1, maybe not ..
  • [09:18:31] <virals1> lifeeth: ohh, some other time.
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  • [17:12:07] <beaglehoard> is the beagleboard able to play 1080p?
  • [17:12:16] <suihkulokki> no
  • [17:12:31] <beaglehoard> pity
  • [17:12:48] <beaglehoard> is there anything else that is similar and able to play 1080p?
  • [17:16:23] <beaglehoard> that seems to be a no
  • [17:17:51] <DesktopMa> next omap version? hehe
  • [17:18:15] <beaglehoard> i know omap4 can do it in hardware
  • [17:18:46] <beaglehoard> but i had hoped omap3 could do it in a combination of hard and software
  • [17:26:49] <parapete> http://osdir.com/ml/gdb.bugs.discuss/2008-07/msg00004.html does anybody know a workaround for this bug? i'm experiencing it in 2007q3 arm gdb
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  • [18:23:39] <_av500_> beaglehoard: 720p is the max
  • [18:24:35] <_av500_> parapete: tried a newer cs release?
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  • [18:35:32] <parapete> _av500_: just tried gdb v7.0 and it's worked by the looks of things... :)
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  • [19:45:38] <CountDown> Is there a way check if a U-Boot image was compiled with the CONFIG_ZERO_BOOTDELAY_CHECK defined without actually setting bootdelay=0?
  • [19:46:37] <CountDown> Or, perhaps a better question is how to recover from bootdelay=0 if CONFIG_ZERO_BOOTDELAY_CHECK wasn't defined.
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  • [21:16:34] <_av500_> recover?
  • [21:16:48] <_av500_> u can always boot a sane uboot from mmc
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  • [21:38:55] <CountDown> _av500_: Yep, that's what I figured. All seems to be well...
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