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  • [00:59:04] <Aditya_> is there any way to download the ti gst examples without having to build them through OE?
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  • [01:29:35] <crwper> Noob question: I want to use UART2 on the expansion header. My research so far seems to indicate that I need to rebuild Angstrom to do this. Is that correct?
  • [01:31:17] <ds2> no
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  • [01:33:25] <crwper> ds2: Well, that's a bit of a relief. Can you recommend a resource that take me beyond what's covered in, e.g., BeagleBoardBeginners?
  • [01:33:50] <ds2> crwper: it should just appear as /dev/ttyS1, IIRC
  • [01:34:02] <ds2> and at that point, it depends on what you want to do with it
  • [01:34:22] <Aditya_> I have a question about using make
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  • [01:34:43] <Aditya_> so far installing anything on this image from angstrom demo hasn't worked
  • [01:35:00] <Aditya_> opkg cant completely installing stuff... says stuff like "Unable to open the control file"
  • [01:35:09] <Aditya_> I can do opkg update fine
  • [01:35:15] <Aditya_> just no installs
  • [01:35:19] <crwper> ds2: Thanks, I will give it another shot. Perhaps my problem lies elsewhere.
  • [01:40:24] <Aditya_> anyone know why opkg is failing?
  • [01:45:27] <djlewis> Aditya_: I didnt catch which image you are using.
  • [01:46:58] <djlewis> there are two there at Demo
  • [01:47:16] <Aditya_> hmmm
  • [01:47:17] <Aditya_> oh right
  • [01:47:21] <Aditya_> lemme link it
  • [01:47:25] <djlewis> I can tell you the stable works properly with opkg .
  • [01:47:42] <Aditya_> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/sd-images/2gb/
  • [01:47:53] <Aditya_> used dd to get that onto a card
  • [01:49:00] <djlewis> I believe that is a unstable though very close to stable.
  • [01:49:05] <Aditya_> hmm
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  • [01:49:45] <Aditya_> so try something from http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/ instead?
  • [01:49:57] <djlewis> I gave up on dd'ing to SD as it likes to set partition sizes.
  • [01:50:36] <djlewis> As I use 4GB cards I prefer to follow beagleboard beginners method to build up a SD
  • [01:51:00] <djlewis> Also as I prefer more productivity than fixin, I prefer stable's too.
  • [01:51:41] <Aditya_> hmm ok
  • [01:51:47] <Aditya_> hmm
  • [01:51:51] <djlewis> Aditya_: yes, get the stable and the modules ...r47...tgz
  • [01:51:53] <Aditya_> the 2.6.29 modules package on there isn't working
  • [01:52:03] <Aditya_> yeah I am already downloading the rootfs and uimage
  • [01:52:09] <Aditya_> but the modules link is broken :/
  • [01:52:42] <djlewis> modules-2.6.29-r47-beagleboard.tgz gives me a download box.
  • [01:52:52] <Aditya_> me too, but it says failed
  • [01:52:54] <raster> burrp
  • [01:53:19] <Aditya_> hmm
  • [01:53:21] <Aditya_> weird
  • [01:53:26] <Aditya_> downloads fine on my host os
  • [01:53:44] <djlewis> interesting, the compression has been modified recently.
  • [01:53:59] <Aditya_> yeah it said something about unsupported compression
  • [01:54:09] <Aditya_> maybe if I use something other than evolution it will work
  • [01:54:18] <djlewis> I am in FF
  • [01:54:33] <djlewis> on a Ubuntu 9.04 laptop
  • [01:54:36] <Aditya_> yup, wget works wondefully
  • [01:54:46] <Aditya_> yeah it was just the browser that debian came with
  • [01:54:51] <Aditya_> guess I should install FF
  • [01:55:05] <djlewis> you should be able to leave your card's MLO and u-boot as is.
  • [01:55:35] <djlewis> replace uImage with the r47 version
  • [01:56:24] <Aditya_> and change the rootfs contents right?
  • [01:56:30] <Aditya_> cause now they will be for this kernel version
  • [01:56:37] <Aditya_> well the modules anyway
  • [01:56:47] <djlewis> yep, erase the ext2 part and place the stable on it.
  • [01:56:59] <Aditya_> and why does debian not have firefox in its apt-get sources by default
  • [01:57:02] <Aditya_> * sigh *
  • [01:57:14] <djlewis> and modules after stable is un-tarr'd
  • [01:57:40] <djlewis> Like I have to use IE to dnload FF on a windoze computer :(
  • [01:57:50] <Aditya_> yeah lol
  • [01:57:58] <Aditya_> that and testing websites is all I use IE for
  • [01:58:32] <djlewis> I very rarely use windoze product anymore.
  • [01:58:42] <djlewis> But I work on it and that is good.
  • [02:00:27] <djlewis> It was just two weeks back I built up a SD with the stable and tested it.
  • [02:00:59] <Aditya_> ah
  • [02:01:04] <Aditya_> I am a windows guy :P
  • [02:01:32] <djlewis> I mostly just repair windoze. Offers job security ;)
  • [02:01:50] <Aditya_> err
  • [02:01:58] <Aditya_> I cant format to fat32 in gparted....
  • [02:02:01] <Aditya_> what the hell
  • [02:02:16] <djlewis> you shouldnt have to change your cards formats
  • [02:02:41] <djlewis> I use fdisk though
  • [02:02:43] <Aditya_> well I decided to just start from scratch
  • [02:02:49] <Aditya_> obviously not a great idea
  • [02:03:19] <djlewis> the DD would have left you with fat32 and ext2 partitions
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  • [02:04:19] <Aditya_> isn't that what its supposed to be?
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  • [02:05:00] <djlewis> yep, fat32 to boot with and ext2 for fs
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  • [02:07:52] <Aditya_> heya XorA
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  • [02:10:07] <Aditya_> grr
  • [02:10:17] <Aditya_> is there any way to stop debian from automounting my card?
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  • [02:10:34] <Aditya_> nm
  • [02:10:42] <Aditya_> should check settings menus before asking stupid questions
  • [02:12:02] <prym> eyes before hands, except for the damned
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  • [02:13:29] <mgough> Hello!
  • [02:14:20] <prym> more imortant than i's before e's excep after c's
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  • [02:27:00] <XorA> Aditya_: hey
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  • [04:01:06] <spvensko_> hi, has anyone here tried running RISC OS on their beagle board?
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  • [04:05:02] <rachit> What max resolution video we can play from beaglebord either S-video or DVI-D output?
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  • [04:17:11] <GrizzlyAdams> spvensko_: didn't have much luck with it
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  • [04:27:01] <Aditya_> hallo
  • [04:27:23] <crwper> Looking for a bit of help debugging GPIO pins in Angstrom.
  • [04:28:02] <crwper> I used to be able to set pins as follows:
  • [04:28:15] <crwper> cd /sys/class/gpio
  • [04:28:21] <crwper> echo 168 > export
  • [04:28:26] <crwper> cd gpio168
  • [04:28:32] <crwper> echo "high" > direction
  • [04:28:34] <crwper> etc.
  • [04:28:47] <Aditya_> holy shit, you can do that?
  • [04:29:05] <crwper> However, for some reason, this now has no effect on the voltage of pin 24 on the expansion header.
  • [04:29:15] <crwper> Aditya_: Yep.
  • [04:29:16] <crwper> http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/msg/c623a16637625685?hl=en&pli=1
  • [04:29:27] <Aditya_> crwper, that's pretty awesome
  • [04:29:34] <crwper> Yeah, it *was*.
  • [04:29:40] <Aditya_> cant help much with your problem, but thanks for bringing it up lol
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  • [04:30:04] <crwper> I'm not sure what happened. I tested an expansion board between the last time it worked and now, so I'm wondering if that might have done some damage.
  • [04:30:14] <crwper> Or if someone here has another idea what might be causing the problem.
  • [04:30:26] <crwper> I just rebuilt my Angstrom SD card in case there was something wrong with it, but no change.
  • [04:30:27] <Aditya_> maybe something else is holding access to the pin
  • [04:30:28] <Aditya_> ?
  • [04:30:34] <Aditya_> like a peripheral
  • [04:30:41] <Aditya_> is it muxed with anything?
  • [04:30:53] <crwper> Nothing that it wasn't before, I think.
  • [04:31:04] <crwper> It's a basic Angstrom install, following BeagleBoardBeginners.
  • [04:31:05] <Aditya_> that might be something to check
  • [04:31:21] <Aditya_> * shrug * I am just throwing ideas out htere
  • [04:31:27] <crwper> How are pin muxes changed?
  • [04:31:28] <Aditya_> they do change stuff internally between versions
  • [04:31:34] <Aditya_> ... I would have no idea
  • [04:31:37] <crwper> Only way I know is by rebuilding uBoot.
  • [04:31:40] <crwper> :)
  • [04:31:50] <Aditya_> I know on my DaVinci EVM I have that problem
  • [04:31:56] <Aditya_> UART1 is muxed with the ATA connector
  • [04:32:06] <Aditya_> and to get to that muxing I have to rebuild the kernel
  • [04:32:12] <Aditya_> so yes, you will have to rebuild the kernel
  • [04:32:16] <crwper> My impression before, because of how well things worked, was that exporting gpio168 also took care of the mux.
  • [04:32:22] <Aditya_> which probably maps pins to their functions
  • [04:32:31] <crwper> Wonder if that's somehow changed...
  • [04:33:06] <crwper> I should be running u-boot from the SD card, though, and have just finished reinstalling the original...
  • [04:33:11] <Aditya_> do you know what peripheral IS muxed with the pin?
  • [04:33:19] <crwper> Though it's *possible* I was using a different Angstrom build when it last worked.
  • [04:33:20] <crwper> Yeah...
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  • [04:33:23] <crwper> just a sec.
  • [04:33:33] <Aditya_> maybe you can try using that peripheral just to make sure nothing hardware is broken
  • [04:33:43] <crwper> IDC2_SCL and GPIO_168 are on the same pin.
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  • [04:33:58] <Aditya_> SCL.. is that I2C?
  • [04:34:02] <crwper> Hmm, that's a thought.
  • [04:34:03] <crwper> Yeah.
  • [04:34:04] <crwper> Clock.
  • [04:34:12] <Aditya_> k yeah
  • [04:34:14] <Aditya_> maybe do that
  • [04:34:15] <crwper> Whoops.
  • [04:34:19] <crwper> Yeah, I2C2, not IDC2.
  • [04:34:20] <crwper> :P
  • [04:34:23] <sakoman> crwper: you wouldn't echo "high" to direction - that would be "in" or "out"
  • [04:34:38] <sakoman> and the 0 or 1 to value
  • [04:34:40] <sakoman> then
  • [04:34:47] <crwper> I've tried that as well. Was using "high" as a shortcut taken from the Google Groups post above.
  • [04:34:59] <Aditya_> the google post changes something called brightness
  • [04:35:07] <Aditya_> maybes thats what actually flips the pin high and low
  • [04:35:10] <spvensko> has anyone here run Risc OS on their beagle board?
  • [04:35:23] <Aditya_> they also use value
  • [04:35:28] <Aditya_> as in echo "1" > value
  • [04:36:03] <Aditya_> spvensko, I work with montavista on the DaVinci EVM
  • [04:36:08] <Aditya_> not sure if I can help though
  • [04:36:16] <spvensko> i was just curious if it were possible
  • [04:36:24] <Aditya_> oh
  • [04:36:28] <Aditya_> I am sure it is
  • [04:36:40] <Aditya_> the davinci EVM uses somewhat the same setup as the beagleboard
  • [04:36:48] <Aditya_> arm core / dsp etc
  • [04:36:55] <Aditya_> and they run montavista linux
  • [04:37:19] <Aditya_> some people on the TI forums have also used some other realtime os
  • [04:37:31] <Aditya_> not sure what it was but it was open source I think
  • [04:37:50] <Aditya_> and wait..
  • [04:37:58] <Aditya_> I thin kI completely misunderstood your question
  • [04:38:00] <Aditya_> wonderful
  • [04:38:21] <spvensko> lol no worries
  • [04:38:25] <spvensko> i still learned a lot :)
  • [04:38:38] <Aditya_> wikipedia says Risc OS comes with a bunch of ARM based systems
  • [04:38:50] <Aditya_> so I'd say very probable :P
  • [04:39:35] <crwper> No change when using echo "out > direction and echo "1" > value.
  • [04:40:12] <crwper> Can anyone confirm whether or not the pin mux can change value dynamically? Is it possible I just happened to have the mux set right before, and now have changed it?
  • [04:40:26] <crwper> Before, I just assumed the mux got set as a result of the export.
  • [04:40:58] <spvensko> Aditya_: are all ARMs the same? ie would the Debian ARM port work on both ARM 8 and ARM 9s?
  • [04:41:42] <Aditya_> not always
  • [04:41:46] <spvensko> i'm not sure if my question makes sense... i've been an x86 user all my life
  • [04:41:56] <Aditya_> well I am not a super expert or anything
  • [04:42:06] <Aditya_> I am starting out with the beagleboard, I just use the DaVinci at work
  • [04:42:31] <spvensko> oh neat
  • [04:42:38] <spvensko> i'm a geneticist so this is all new to me >_>
  • [04:42:44] <Aditya_> I think the whole port thing might work both ways
  • [04:42:53] <Aditya_> like OE seems to do the CROSS_COMPILE stuff
  • [04:43:11] <Aditya_> but the mojo people release images specifically for different ARM cores
  • [04:43:15] <spvensko> i see
  • [04:43:20] <Aditya_> they say its more efficient
  • [04:43:29] <Aditya_> I have no idea if one is better than the other or anything
  • [04:43:52] <Aditya_> planning to make a board of your own?
  • [04:45:58] <spvensko> i'll honestly probably go with gumstix since they seem more readily available
  • [04:46:04] <spvensko> there seems to be a shortage of beagle boards from what i've seen
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  • [04:50:07] <Aditya_> I was actually looking to buy one of those gumstix dealies
  • [04:50:13] <Aditya_> I want the overo fire
  • [04:50:17] <ds2> the boards are available
  • [04:50:20] <Aditya_> EVERYTHING
  • [04:51:29] <spvensko> ds2: didn't realize that... i saw a quick discussion a few days ago in the chat where people where saying that the boards couldn't be ordered from the site anymore
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  • [04:52:08] <ds2> spvensko: if you need a board right now, it can be done but it will cost you
  • [04:52:52] <spvensko> hehe, cost me more than i want to spend on a hobby at the moment :)
  • [04:53:21] <ds2> =)
  • [04:53:37] <ds2> if you read the lists, you get either source from india or other folks who have inventory
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  • [04:56:36] <Aditya_> bastards
  • [04:56:40] <Aditya_> hoarding supplies
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  • [04:57:05] <spvensko> am i buying drugs or a hobby computer?
  • [04:57:14] <spvensko> goodness :P
  • [04:57:29] <ds2> drugs of course ;)
  • [04:57:46] <spvensko> sounds that way
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  • [04:59:25] <ds2> does this make us all crack whores here? ;)
  • [04:59:47] <Aditya_> we ARE all crack whores
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  • [05:34:43] <warf> anyone familier with setting up pwm on the beagle? i cant seem to find anything regarding it for any omap3
  • [05:35:15] <_av500_> it has some pwms fwik
  • [05:35:52] <warf> yeah... cant find anything on driving them
  • [05:36:17] <warf> the twl chip has 2 as well, but havent found anything regarding those as well
  • [05:37:01] <_av500_> looked where?
  • [05:37:22] <warf> page after page on google
  • [05:37:34] <_av500_> omap3 trm
  • [05:37:43] <_av500_> same for the twl
  • [05:38:59] <warf> trm?
  • [05:39:02] <warf> manual?
  • [05:39:20] <_av500_> yes
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  • [05:41:05] <ds2> only te PWM on the OMAP is accessible
  • [05:41:25] <ds2> AFAIK, the 4030 isn't brought out (that chiphas a lot of buried features!)
  • [05:41:25] <warf> yeah thats what i figured
  • [05:42:17] <warf> i havent seen the trm till now, hopefuly i can find something in there regarding pwm
  • [05:42:41] <_av500_> you will
  • [05:43:00] <warf> well im using the overo w/ summit board, so the breakouts are slightly different
  • [05:43:30] <warf> but the beagle seems to be the most contributed to soc project
  • [05:43:40] <warf> *sbc
  • [05:44:01] <ds2> and you'll need RevC or newer
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  • [06:11:08] <gaurang> how to create x11 image
  • [06:13:25] <crwper> gaurang: How about the Angstrom online builder?
  • [06:13:28] <crwper> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/narcissus/
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  • [06:30:43] <rachit> What max resolution video we can play from beaglebord either S-video or DVI-D output?
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  • [06:31:29] <av500> depends
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  • [06:36:01] <Aditya_> ok this is annoying
  • [06:36:15] <Aditya_> got stable angstrom and now none of the modules load
  • [06:36:18] <Aditya_> * sigh *
  • [06:36:50] <Aditya_> if I use a more unstable version then opkg doesn't work
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  • [06:44:56] <Aditya_> has anyone had problems with "Invalid Module Format"?
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  • [07:04:10] <rachit> I am using Angstrom Destro binaries,kernel and rfs then what video output resolution support through DVI-D output?
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  • [07:49:05] <nitin> av500: Is there a way to change the global alpha for video window 2
  • [07:49:16] <av500> ?
  • [07:49:35] <av500> have video transparent over gfx?
  • [07:49:40] <nitin> isn't there some thing like e:0/e:1 in sys interface for alpha also?
  • [07:49:46] <av500> gfx over alpha works
  • [07:49:53] <av500> global or per pixel
  • [07:50:08] <av500> nitin: it is a:xxx
  • [07:50:25] <nitin> I think then I dont have the recent version of the driver
  • [07:51:02] <av500> I dont know what version I actually have, but it is far from recent too
  • [07:51:25] <nitin> I took the diagnostic kernel some time back
  • [07:51:39] <nitin> this git clone git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tmlind/linux-omap-2.6.git will have it? Any Idea?
  • [07:51:51] <av500> no idea, check the source :)
  • [07:51:51] <nitin> Though I have just started git-chekout
  • [07:52:36] <nitin> av500: Can you help me understand some basics about Overlay management
  • [07:52:44] <av500> i can try
  • [07:52:50] <nitin> I mean I have some basic questions to ask
  • [07:52:56] <av500> unless I have to recite the TRM :)
  • [07:53:47] <nitin> OK, May be I will got thru the TRM once again before asking.
  • [07:53:57] <av500> just ask :)
  • [07:54:35] <nitin> I want to enable video2 over video1
  • [07:54:50] <av500> ok
  • [07:54:59] <av500> i am not sure you can have transparency there
  • [07:55:14] <av500> i rather doubt it
  • [07:55:18] <nitin> want to show cursor and some graphics on video2 by enabling its transparency
  • [07:55:28] <av500> i fear that will not work
  • [07:55:32] <av500> why not use GFX?
  • [07:55:42] <nitin> Another way I thought was
  • [07:55:51] <nitin> Change the layout Manager to Alpha Mode
  • [07:56:00] <nitin> Graphics window is on top
  • [07:56:25] <ds2> Hmmmm
  • [07:56:32] <nitin> Display cursor and graphics on it, and make the rest of the gfx as transparent
  • [07:56:41] <av500> nitin: yes, that works, I use that
  • [07:56:47] <av500> per pixel alpha
  • [07:56:55] <av500> for gfx over video1 or video2
  • [07:57:16] <nitin> it can also have a global alpha
  • [07:57:19] <nitin> ?
  • [07:57:22] <av500> yes
  • [07:57:42] <av500> or you can color key e.g. for 16bit gfx you define one color that will be "transparent"
  • [07:57:56] <nitin> But video2 over video 1 cannot have perpixel or global alpha?/
  • [07:58:06] <av500> I think not
  • [07:58:09] <nitin> ok
  • [07:58:44] <nitin> I will read the TRM once again to clear my concepts of perpixel and global alpha
  • [07:58:45] <av500> ds2: hmmm?
  • [07:58:50] <ds2> yes
  • [07:58:54] <nitin> I still have some basic question
  • [07:59:07] <ds2> trying to figure out if nitin is someone I used to know
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  • [08:00:20] <nitin> av500
  • [08:00:48] <nitin> nitin: yes, that works, I use that
  • [08:01:00] <nitin> Can you please tell me steps to enable that?
  • [08:01:01] <av500> yes
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  • [08:03:14] <av500> nitin: http://pastebin.com/m6b4582e5
  • [08:04:45] <nitin> av500: I need to use v4l2 driver for this?
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  • [08:05:39] <av500> nitin: actually, I am not sure that is the proper code, I just tried it and it does nothing here :)
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  • [08:05:54] <Aditya_> anyone have ideas about the "Invalid module format"
  • [08:06:01] <kzrana> hi there
  • [08:06:06] <Aditya_> this is in r47 of koen's images
  • [08:06:25] <kzrana> has anyone tested USB OTG in host mode?
  • [08:06:53] <kzrana> ?
  • [08:08:08] <nitin> av500: U said that gfx over video windows work for you, how does that work?
  • [08:08:49] <av500> how?
  • [08:09:05] <adj> kzrana: propably almost everyone with rev b beagle
  • [08:09:36] <nitin> av500: I mean you do that through sysfs interface or through the IOCTLS
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  • [08:10:49] <kzrana> is there any special hardware/software configuration required for running host on OTG?
  • [08:10:50] <ds2> guss I got the wrong person
  • [08:11:50] <ds2> depends on whatyou mean by tested... if you mean the full USB suite like something you would use a cat USB tester, then I doubt it but there are many people that have used it
  • [08:12:06] <av500> nitin: both
  • [08:12:23] <av500> ioctls on /dev/fb, some sysfs and some v4ls stuff too :)
  • [08:12:35] <av500> and some kernel patches
  • [08:12:44] <av500> as said, I am far from mainline
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  • [08:13:03] <nitin> av500: U mean far ahead from mainline
  • [08:13:06] <nitin> ?
  • [08:13:08] <adj> kzrana: a mini-A cable and either working OTG detection or kernel forced to host mode
  • [08:13:15] <av500> I would try to get a kernel with latest dss2, coz everything else is unsupported
  • [08:13:29] <av500> nitin: not far ahead, I assume latest dss2 will do that too
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  • [08:16:07] <ds2> a
  • [08:16:28] <av500> b
  • [08:16:41] <ds2> =)
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  • [08:30:27] <ds2> i wish there were more tall buildings around here
  • [08:33:58] <kblin> kzrana: I'm running both my beagles in OTG host mode
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  • [08:35:56] <kzrana> <kblin> can you tell me where can i find the kernel built in USB OTG host mode
  • [08:35:58] <kzrana> ?
  • [08:36:22] <kzrana> or any patch required to run OTG in host mode?
  • [08:36:32] <kzrana> Are you using mini A cable
  • [08:36:57] <kzrana> or have you soldered the pad mentioned by J6 in document?
  • [08:49:34] <kblin> hm?
  • [08:50:02] <kblin> I've got a mini-A cable, didn't do anything else
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  • [08:51:39] <kblin> oh, and I'm using a 2.6.31 kernel..
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  • [08:52:07] <kblin> iirc the 2.6.29 kernel shipped with angstrom has some problems initializing musb
  • [08:52:24] <kblin> it's been a while since I played with that, though
  • [08:53:42] <kblin> I'm not using angstrom myself, not sure if that has been fixed already
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  • [09:19:25] <ds2> Brrrrrrrr
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  • [09:19:38] <ds2> going to need a st bernard board soon
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  • [09:24:02] <jpihet> ds2: Hi!
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  • [09:33:24] <ds2> hi jpihet
  • [09:33:58] * ds2 &
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  • [09:34:29] <hrw> morning
  • [09:34:35] <av500> gm
  • [09:37:11] <florian> good morning
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  • [10:12:38] <mru> morning
  • [10:12:50] <av500> gm mru
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  • [12:53:22] <mru> why's everyone so quiet?
  • [12:53:26] <mru> hiding from the trolls?
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  • [12:53:34] <_troll_> there's no use hiding
  • [12:53:46] <_troll_> the _troll_ will find you
  • [12:54:08] * av500 feeds the troll
  • [12:54:09] <_koen_> tastes like chicken
  • [12:54:43] <_troll_> mmm... chicken wings
  • [12:55:08] <av500> frog legs next week? :)
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  • [12:57:12] <_troll_> we'll see about that
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  • [13:45:28] <djlewis> good morning
  • [13:45:48] <djlewis> argh! 24F and dropping with a devils wind...
  • [13:46:25] <djlewis> strange how all this global warming is making it colder... brrr.
  • [13:47:45] <mru> morning djlewis
  • [13:48:09] <djlewis> best of the morning to you mru
  • [13:48:15] <mru> it's stopped raining here
  • [13:48:23] <mru> about 12C
  • [13:48:34] <djlewis> good. and warm too :)
  • [13:49:24] <djlewis> -4.4C is not so warm..
  • [13:54:43] <av500> djlewis: isnt it funny that 1week after they found out that global warming is a conspiracy by uk scientists, its gets *colder*!!!
  • [13:55:32] <mru> that scum does not deserve to be called scientists
  • [13:59:06] * djlewis says "brrrr"
  • [13:59:27] <djlewis> morning av500
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  • [14:04:16] <djlewis> now sunbeams are touching the treetops. hopefully it will warm up soon..
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  • [14:07:20] <djlewis> hmm, 11.1M wind with 15.6M gusts all day to come..
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  • [15:50:43] <djlewis> I go off to another task for almost two hours and it has been so quiet...
  • [15:52:02] <av500> looks like most ppl just "froze"...
  • [15:52:05] <spvensko> i wonder how many of us actually have a beagle board? :P
  • [15:52:17] <spvensko> it's a quiet morning across all my channels it seems
  • [15:52:28] <spvensko> it is finals time in a lot of american universities, might be a reason
  • [15:52:30] <av500> a new freenode feature?
  • [15:52:41] <djlewis> it is a toasty 28F here now and I have a revC2 BB
  • [15:52:50] <av500> boost the economy by having ppl less distracted by irc
  • [15:53:24] <djlewis> then there are the lurkers and trolls
  • [15:56:15] <spvensko> <~ lurker
  • [15:56:28] <spvensko> i want a beagleboard but i'm a poor grad school :P
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  • [15:56:44] <djlewis> <~ rachet jaw
  • [15:57:29] <djlewis> spvensko: get your prof to buy you one for research purposes
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  • [15:57:43] <spvensko> hehe, i have the money, i'm just too frugal
  • [15:57:55] <spvensko> plus im' a genetics student with three computer already, they'd look at me like i was crazy
  • [15:58:12] <av500> a generic student? :)
  • [15:58:29] <mru> only 3?
  • [15:58:36] <mru> I've lost count
  • [15:58:45] <av500> djlewis: you managed to summon the troll :)
  • [15:58:53] <djlewis> I'd have to take inventory.
  • [15:58:55] <mru> it was somewhere in the vicinity of 15 last count
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  • [15:59:13] <_troll_> and that wasn't counting all 7 beagles
  • [15:59:44] <av500> old computers are basically unclaimed landfill...
  • [15:59:57] * djlewis has at least 8 in my bedroom and three embedded's no pun intended.
  • [16:00:14] <av500> I decided the only HW worth keeping is tube based...
  • [16:00:17] <djlewis> 8 computers, not BB's
  • [16:00:24] <spvensko> three that i use daily
  • [16:00:42] <djlewis> av500: I want your tube equipment for heat, brrr.
  • [16:00:56] <_troll_> I count 8 on my desk alone
  • [16:01:03] <av500> djlewis: you can use light bulbs for the same effect
  • [16:01:09] <av500> or cucumbers
  • [16:01:14] * djlewis has 5 or 6 more in living room and another half dozen upstairs
  • [16:01:27] <djlewis> computers, that is
  • [16:02:30] <djlewis> not to mention the antique computers in my spare bedroom.
  • [16:03:09] * av500 remebers that he has a Sony HitBit somewhere...
  • [16:03:28] <djlewis> and I have more old ones stored at my mom's in nrth arkansas
  • [16:03:55] * djlewis has a Sony SMC-70 up north.
  • [16:04:17] <_troll_> but everything is more primitive up north
  • [16:04:27] <djlewis> hehee, so true.
  • [16:05:17] <djlewis> Oh, my Beagleboard Abriged just arrived.. fun reading
  • [16:05:27] <_troll_> ???
  • [16:05:28] <djlewis> Abridged, that is
  • [16:05:43] <djlewis> the Google mail list auto feed.
  • [16:05:47] <_troll_> I thought the BB was small enough already
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  • [16:06:36] * djlewis was comparing the BB size to the Freeaudino last eve
  • [16:06:53] <djlewis> only thing that was comparable was size ;)
  • [16:08:09] * djlewis brought home a free Athlon 64 X@ 3800+ last night.
  • [16:08:21] <_troll_> sounds old
  • [16:08:25] <djlewis> X@ = X2
  • [16:08:53] <djlewis> like spvensko , I'm frugal ..
  • [16:09:08] * djlewis gets hand me downs :(
  • [16:09:20] <spvensko> djlewis: freeaudino? are you referring to the aduino?
  • [16:09:36] <djlewis> one of its many clones spvensko
  • [16:10:02] <djlewis> little kits with surface mount parts already mounted.
  • [16:10:07] <djlewis> lots cheaper.
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  • [16:11:04] <spvensko> i see
  • [16:11:10] <spvensko> google didn't bring up anything, got a link?
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  • [16:15:04] <djlewis> spvensko: solorbotics.com, freeduino, my bad.
  • [16:15:13] <spvensko> i watched pythong go from 750ish users to 75 users hehe
  • [16:15:34] <djlewis> pythong, sounds like butt floss
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  • [16:16:27] <Guest5596> Hi everyone
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  • [16:16:28] <Guest5596> i have this beagleboard running ubuntu
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  • [16:16:30] <Guest5596> and i would like to know how to turn on/run bluetooth
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  • [16:16:46] <spvensko> haha, i make that typo often
  • [16:17:12] <spvensko> adruinos aren't suitable for linux, are they?
  • [16:17:34] * djlewis has been toying with playing with arduino toys.
  • [16:17:39] <djlewis> hardly.
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  • [16:18:29] <djlewis> they are designed for the none tech/software types.
  • [16:18:31] <spica> hi all
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  • [16:18:51] <spvensko> djlewis: like me?
  • [16:18:58] <spvensko> how do i worked computer
  • [16:18:59] <djlewis> what was wrong with the name spica?
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  • [16:19:29] <Guest80657> yeah i aint sure.
  • [16:19:37] <Guest80657> it just changed automatically
  • [16:19:47] <ojn> djlewis: got a free mbed system at techcon3, it's a neat little thing too (mbed.org). very easy to get off the ground with.
  • [16:19:52] <djlewis> must be someone beat you to it.
  • [16:20:40] <Guest80657> anyway, i would like to ask how to set the bluetooth running in xfce 4 ubuntu on my beagleboard
  • [16:21:06] <Guest80657> my aim is to connect to wiiu remote thru bluetooth
  • [16:21:45] <djlewis> ojn: looks interesting. I like stamp style boards.
  • [16:21:47] <Guest80657> but looks like the ubuntu i installed doesnt seem to have the support
  • [16:23:22] <djlewis> ojn: that little booger is loaded with joy.
  • [16:24:15] <ojn> djlewis: yeah, it's got plenty of connectivity. I picked up a magjack and an adapter board (no discretes on it), and had ethernet going in minutes.
  • [16:24:19] <djlewis> Guest80657: I think Angstrom has bluetooth by default.
  • [16:24:58] <Guest80657> oh angstrom...ok thanks a lot. actually i installed angstrom on another sd card
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  • [16:25:09] <Guest80657> i will try and see again
  • [16:25:15] <Guest80657> thank you djlewis
  • [16:25:25] <Guest80657> i m a newbie
  • [16:25:27] <Guest80657> :)
  • [16:25:30] <djlewis> sure. I am always trying to disable it as I dont use BT
  • [16:25:38] <Guest80657> oh i see
  • [16:25:39] <Guest80657> :)
  • [16:25:52] * djlewis goes after more hot coffee, brrrr.
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  • [16:30:10] <djlewis> ojn: I dont care for a compiler in the clouds though.
  • [16:31:52] <spvensko> djlewis: it's 58*F here :)
  • [16:32:13] <djlewis> spvensko: you must be next door to mru
  • [16:32:21] <spvensko> mru?
  • [16:32:40] <spvensko> heck i might even get an iced coffee today
  • [16:32:56] <djlewis> oh, do rub it in, plueeze :P
  • [16:33:21] <ojn> djlewis: yeah, that is a bit annoying. Nothing stops you from building your own binaries I think, they're not signed and checked, etc.
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  • [16:35:30] <djlewis> ojn: I have to study which is better for me. Cortex-M3 or ARM-7
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  • [16:42:41] <prym> nothing lasts for ever, and we both know archs can change
  • [16:43:43] <spvensko> i'm not sure if i should laugh or cry :(
  • [16:44:11] <spvensko> i keep having these daydreams about beagleboards and gumstix(s?) and i know that when i have the money to play with them they're going to be longgggg out of date
  • [16:44:46] <prym> if u want money simply create it, thats what im doing
  • [16:45:52] <prym> im not 100% on how you "just create it" but according to my spritual advisor its easy enough i dont have to worry aboutit
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  • [16:47:04] <djlewis> ojn: I cant find anything at mbed.org about ownership of code that a user develops.
  • [16:47:36] <djlewis> ojn: seems everything one does will be up there on their cloud site.
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  • [16:48:23] <djlewis> ojn: their lib's dont come down so one would be starting from scratch locally.
  • [16:49:33] <spvensko> prym: there's always a printer
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  • [16:58:48] <djlewis> oh joy, its up to a toasty 30F, brrr..
  • [16:59:11] <spvensko> i might go to lunch in short sleeves
  • [16:59:12] * djlewis 's coffee is as cold as his kneecaps...
  • [16:59:30] <spvensko> it's actually warmed up to 60F
  • [16:59:32] <spvensko> :P
  • [16:59:40] <spvensko> if it makes you feel any better i would love to have some snow right now
  • [17:01:46] <sakoman> djlewis: if it makes you feel any better it is 27F here in sunny No. California
  • [17:02:42] * mru is happy that it isn't raining for once
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  • [17:10:05] * djlewis feels all better now... NOT!
  • [17:10:22] <djlewis> good morning sakoman
  • [17:10:40] <sakoman> gm djlewis
  • [17:12:35] <djlewis> PS
  • [17:12:46] <djlewis> oops
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  • [17:15:29] <mcgeagh> does anyone know of anything thats using hardware accelerated directFB? i.e does it exist?
  • [17:15:43] <av500> on BB?
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  • [17:17:17] <mcgeagh> yes
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  • [17:18:21] <mcgeagh> i know the directfb package is available, but i wanted directfb that was hardware accelerated
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  • [17:18:53] <av500> hanvent heard of it
  • [17:19:03] <av500> you could write nice dsp code for that :)
  • [17:19:07] <av500> or sgx code ...
  • [17:19:09] <av500> or neon code
  • [17:19:10] <mcgeagh> ok, thanks anyways
  • [17:19:18] <mru> even sdma could be useful
  • [17:19:19] <mcgeagh> thats what i was hoping was already done lol
  • [17:19:55] <av500> mcgeagh: wrong approach :)
  • [17:20:24] <mcgeagh> yeah i know, lol
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  • [17:25:38] <Pelias> what video codecs can be accelerated on beagle board?
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  • [17:31:43] <_av500_> a lot
  • [17:34:41] <XorA> all
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  • [17:40:02] <KNDR> Hello!
  • [17:41:07] <KNDR> Do someone know how to put ubuntu on the beagle board?
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  • [17:42:28] <KNDR> I am having some troubles with this...
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  • [17:45:17] <XorA> ewwww
  • [17:45:19] <XorA> dont do it
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  • [17:50:27] <CountDown> Lest I brick my Beagle Board, I'd like to confirm that I should follow the directions at http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/README.txt for installing the u-boot and MLO files, both of which I've placed on the FAT32 partition of the SD card.
  • [17:51:18] <CountDown> It looks like u-boot.bin is being used, since "Loading u-boot.bin from mmc" is displayed during boot.
  • [17:51:47] <CountDown> But the bootdelay=2 still isn't having an effect, so I figure I need to install it to NAND. Does that sound right?
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  • [18:17:43] <CountDown> I'm still looking on how to customize the initial beagleboard.org logo that appears before any boot messages appear on the terminal. I see the Tux logo in the u-boot source, but I can't find the beagleboard.org logo anywhere, including in the Beagle Board source code mentioned at http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/BeagleSourceCode
  • [18:18:17] <CountDown> What am I missing? Anyone know where the beagleboard.org image is kept in the source tree?
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  • [18:42:46] <ds2> morning
  • [18:43:05] <mru> morning ds2
  • [18:43:13] <mru> what's new in the west?
  • [18:43:17] <ds2> snow (heavy frost?) @ 250ft MSL!
  • [18:43:24] <_av500_> its wild
  • [18:43:40] <ds2> at @0945 PST
  • [18:44:45] * ds2 waits for the sakoman gloat about lack of snow and frost ;)
  • [18:45:55] * mru has no snow or frost
  • [18:46:02] <mru> nor rain
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  • [18:47:09] <ds2> aren't you at a higher latitude then I am?
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  • [18:49:23] <mru> ds2: I'm at 50d55m N
  • [18:49:58] <ds2> thought so... I'm only at 37.34N
  • [18:52:30] <djlewis_> morning ds2
  • [18:52:37] <ds2> morning djlewis
  • [18:52:51] * djlewis_ has very cold, windy...
  • [18:53:00] <ds2> how cold?
  • [18:53:07] <djlewis_> lows about 20F tonight.
  • [18:53:12] <djlewis_> 22F last night
  • [18:53:14] <ds2> any tornados ?
  • [18:53:24] <djlewis_> hehee.. not here.
  • [18:54:06] <ds2> donno you area for context but 22F isn't that cold for the midwest but it is a tad chilly for sealevel out here
  • [18:54:44] <ds2> FWIW, i measured 28F this morning
  • [18:55:27] <djlewis_> We are in the south... its gonna be over 100F in part of summer and below freezing part of winter..
  • [18:55:42] <djlewis_> not far enoug south for me in winter..
  • [18:56:08] <ds2> Chicago is like that too... 100F and humid and at times below 0F
  • [18:56:46] <ds2> judging from the reports, I need more thermal mass
  • [18:56:57] * djlewis_ tried a winter at Ann Arbour.. not for this guy.
  • [18:57:14] <ds2> heh... but that's on the wrong side of the lake!
  • [18:57:59] <mru> we have this nice ocean here keeping the temperature constant
  • [18:59:30] <ds2> so do we
  • [18:59:43] <ds2> and ours is bigger ;)
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  • [19:07:52] <mru> ds2: but you have those cold alaskan currents coming down
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  • [19:38:05] <Wandererjs> Heya, Beaglers
  • [19:38:19] <Wandererjs> Does anyone know if the leadtime at digiboard is really 3 months?
  • [19:39:58] <Wandererjs> err, that's digikey, not digiboard
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  • [19:41:57] <mru> digikey leadtimes are usually bogus
  • [19:42:19] <mru> beagle production is currently delayed due to shortage of the TFP410 chip
  • [19:42:27] <mru> don't know when it will resume
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  • [19:42:59] <Wandererjs> Bogus as in "Not that bad" or bogus as in "not that good"?
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  • [19:43:21] <Wandererjs> I saw a post where there quantity is messed up due to not being able to track partial shipments internally
  • [19:43:37] <mru> bogus as in a week or two, not months
  • [19:43:52] <Wandererjs> Any way of knowing if they really have some available?
  • [19:44:01] <mru> they don't have any right now
  • [19:44:16] <Wandererjs> dang it
  • [19:44:31] <mru> as soon as production gets going again they'll have some
  • [19:44:38] <mru> but they'll have back-orders too then
  • [19:44:41] <djlewis_> mru: is so positive :)
  • [19:44:53] <Wandererjs> hmm.. well, maybe I'll order one anyway
  • [19:44:54] <mru> hard to say what the actual lead time is right now
  • [19:44:59] <Crofton|work> Gerald is sounding "confident" Digikey will have boards on jan 15
  • [19:45:04] <mru> the sooner you order, the sooner you'll have one
  • [19:45:07] <Wandererjs> I noticed that price went up $50 on the...
  • [19:45:13] <Wandererjs> other website, listed as backorder
  • [19:45:15] <Wandererjs> the UK one?
  • [19:45:22] <Wandererjs> (need coffee; can't remember the name)
  • [19:45:22] <bobo1on1> I'm supposed to get one, I hope said department has them in stock
  • [19:45:31] <Wandererjs> but yeah, maybe I'll just order one and it gets here when it gets here
  • [19:45:41] <mru> nobody has beagleboards in stock today
  • [19:45:57] <mru> no unsold boards exist
  • [19:46:10] <ds2> mru: uh...
  • [19:46:12] <Wandererjs> I guess it's good that it's that popular
  • [19:46:25] <Wandererjs> Are they making more C3s, or is there a new version being made?
  • [19:46:34] <mru> ds2: have you heard otherwise?
  • [19:46:53] <ds2> mru: depends on what you are calling unsold
  • [19:47:03] <mru> ds2: built but not sold
  • [19:47:13] <Crofton|work> sakoman, by the way, you can let Gordon know I am offended he does not mention Angstrom in his video
  • [19:47:21] <bobo1on1> and didn't catch on fire during the QA
  • [19:47:32] <ds2> mru: sold to a final end user or just sold by the factory to a distro?
  • [19:47:33] <mru> I heard production was halted due to lack of chips
  • [19:47:38] <mru> both
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  • [19:47:45] <ds2> there are boards in distro
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  • [19:47:51] <ds2> but the factory is indeed halted
  • [19:47:52] <mru> ds2: which one?
  • [19:48:06] <mru> last I heard they were all sold out
  • [19:48:06] <ds2> the india distro has some
  • [19:48:11] <ds2> there are assorted ones in the US that have them
  • [19:48:12] <mru> I thought they'd run out too
  • [19:48:42] <ds2> as I keep saying, they will surface if a sufficient offer is made...
  • [19:48:53] <mru> ds2: you sitting on a pile?
  • [19:48:55] <ds2> (they are in a distro for bundling...)
  • [19:49:14] <ds2> I know folks who are
  • [19:49:23] <mru> ah, ok
  • [19:49:25] <mru> you know more than me then
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  • [19:53:26] <bobo1on1> anyone know a list of compatible ethernet or wifi adapters?
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  • [19:56:04] <ds2> i
  • [19:56:09] <mru> j
  • [19:57:50] <Wandererjs> Thanks for info on the backorder issues.
  • [19:58:03] <Wandererjs> Just ordered a few; guess I'll see how long it takes to get them
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  • [20:07:46] <djlewis_> Wandererjs: got some for me?
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  • [20:17:23] <CountDown> Anyone successfully use mplayer in fullscreen mode using Angstrom?
  • [20:17:46] <CountDown> I'm getting out-of-memory errors.
  • [20:19:01] <sakoman> Crofton|work: I haven't watched the videos. Does he talk about sw at all?
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  • [20:19:47] <Crofton|work> in the intro one
  • [20:19:49] <ds2> sakoman: any ice/snow lingering in the morning?
  • [20:19:58] <Crofton|work> getting windy here now
  • [20:20:45] <sakoman> ds2: no just bright sunshine and cold
  • [20:20:51] <sakoman> same as yesterday
  • [20:21:07] <sakoman> Crofton|work: does he mention OE?
  • [20:21:18] <ds2> sakoman: odd... I had snow on the roof this morning!
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  • [20:23:54] <prpplague> andersos: greetings
  • [20:24:19] <Wandererjs> djlewis_ I don't have any for myself yet, yet alone anyone else ;)
  • [20:24:24] <Crofton|work> sakoman, no
  • [20:24:35] <Crofton|work> if so, I missed it
  • [20:25:01] <sakoman> Crofton|work: OK, I'll tell him you are angry with him ;-)
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  • [20:25:07] <Crofton|work> sakoman, if you have a com with wifi, can you turn wifi off so it does not draw lots of current
  • [20:25:13] <Crofton|work> sakoman, thanks :)
  • [20:25:22] <ds2> hahahah
  • [20:25:29] <Crofton|work> I'll check again
  • [20:25:41] <Crofton|work> the only sw he mentions is in the overo
  • [20:25:43] <prpplague> bobo1on1: try purchasing a zippy, easiest way to get ethernet up on the beagle
  • [20:25:47] <ds2> sakoman: better be sure he gets Angstrom and OE right
  • [20:25:52] <bobo1on1> thanks
  • [20:25:58] <sakoman> Crofton|work: you can pull the reset gpio low -- I believe that puts it ijn a low power mode
  • [20:26:08] <Crofton|work> ok
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  • [20:26:49] <bobo1on1> hm, it's slightly expensive
  • [20:27:10] <prpplague> bobo1on1: $79.00 is expensive?
  • [20:27:17] <bobo1on1> it is for me yes
  • [20:28:01] <prpplague> well when you get a usb adatper you are looking at $20 plus if you want to use more than a one device you are going to need a usb hub
  • [20:28:22] <ds2> assume the hub
  • [20:28:29] <ds2> too many things can go wrong w/o it
  • [20:29:14] <prpplague> so at a min you are out $30
  • [20:30:18] * _av500_ is glad all the weather talk ceased
  • [20:30:31] <prpplague> hehe
  • [20:30:59] <ds2> _av500_: eh?
  • [20:30:59] <bobo1on1> depends, some wifi adapters are only $10
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  • [20:31:11] <bobo1on1> of course they probably left the decoupling caps out of those
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  • [20:31:43] <djlewis_> Wandererjs: :)
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  • [20:34:13] <Crofton|work> sakoman, what kernel are you using for overo now?
  • [20:35:58] <sakoman> 2.6.31, working on getting 2.6.32 in shape
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  • [20:36:27] <Crofton|work> do these have the new pinmux code?
  • [20:37:11] <sakoman> Crofton|work: IIRC new kernel pinmux infrastructure is in linux-omap 2.6.32
  • [20:37:17] <Crofton|work> ok
  • [20:37:20] <sakoman> but I haven't tried it yet
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  • [20:39:25] <sakoman> Crofton|work: do all these overo questions mean that you are using gumstix stuff again?
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  • [20:39:55] <Crofton|work> :)
  • [20:40:21] * sakoman notices he neither confirms nor denies
  • [20:41:18] <florian> re
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  • [21:03:51] <Crofton|work> robtow, long time no see, I think
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  • [21:04:18] <robtow> HIya Crofton. Yes, rejoining the Beagle worl - working with one at my new job.
  • [21:04:25] <Crofton|work> cool
  • [21:04:25] <robtow> err, "world".
  • [21:04:29] <Crofton|work> neat job btw
  • [21:04:37] <robtow> check it out - www.liquidr.com
  • [21:04:39] <Crofton|work> well, the web site is cool
  • [21:04:53] <robtow> I'm VERY excited about it.
  • [21:05:10] <robtow> HOw is life treating you?
  • [21:05:14] <Crofton|work> good
  • [21:05:21] <Crofton|work> staying out of trouble
  • [21:05:28] <robtow> :-)
  • [21:05:29] <hrw> sakoman: so we switch to pinmuxing in kernel not in uboot?
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  • [21:05:51] <robtow> <---trying to put Ubuntu 9.04 on a Beagle Board this afternoon.
  • [21:05:57] <sakoman> hrw: that is the goal
  • [21:07:21] <_av500_> pinmux!
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  • [21:07:42] <Crofton|work> hrw, then we can detect what boards are attached and pinmux based on that at tuntime
  • [21:07:44] <Crofton|work> runtime
  • [21:07:50] <Crofton|work> no need to change u-boot
  • [21:08:00] <Crofton|work> robtow, use Angstrom :)
  • [21:08:18] <Crofton|work> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/narcissus/
  • [21:08:53] <ds2> we'll see how well that works....
  • [21:09:13] <robtow> Crofton - Angstrom better for image processing, support, you think?
  • [21:09:28] <Crofton|work> Angstrom is better for everything :)
  • [21:09:44] <Crofton|work> I doubt one or the other is better in that area
  • [21:09:48] <robtow> I'm thinking of running some comparisons.
  • [21:09:53] <Crofton|work> cool
  • [21:09:58] <robtow> WOuld love to get some support for the DSP.
  • [21:10:27] <robtow> Will start with ImageMagick, tho'
  • [21:10:55] <hrw> cool
  • [21:11:08] <Crofton|work> robtow, I am to the point where we need to have a DSP on OMAP summit for the open source guys
  • [21:11:27] <_av500_> Crofton|work: summit?
  • [21:11:29] <Crofton|work> and get a good getting started guide together
  • [21:11:37] <hrw> someone can remind me how to switch OTG device/host without hacked cable?
  • [21:11:40] <robtow> Is anyone actively working on the DSP support?
  • [21:11:43] <Crofton|work> lock some people in a room and do not let them out
  • [21:11:46] <_av500_> ti is
  • [21:11:48] <_av500_> koen
  • [21:11:59] <Crofton|work> they are focused on codecs though
  • [21:12:04] <Crofton|work> not general usage
  • [21:12:19] <_av500_> Crofton|work: everthing can be a codec :)
  • [21:12:21] <Crofton|work> there is a lot of scattered info
  • [21:12:26] <robtow> I need JPEG support, to start with.
  • [21:12:42] <_av500_> thats a codec :)
  • [21:12:48] <robtow> Image RAW and JPEG, actually.
  • [21:13:44] <_av500_> Crofton|work: where are you with DSP?
  • [21:13:54] <_av500_> or your underlings
  • [21:14:03] <Crofton> hoping someone explains it to me before I need to figure it out
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  • [21:14:16] <Crofton> the VT guys seem to have gone on to other things :(
  • [21:14:18] <ds2> aren't the davinci's better for JPEG only stuff?
  • [21:14:23] <_av500_> Crofton|work: "d" is for digital
  • [21:14:28] <ds2> as in ready to go
  • [21:14:53] <_av500_> Crofton|work: "s" is for special, "p" is for pain...
  • [21:14:57] <Crofton> I basically need to lock myself in a room and figure it out, but it has not got to the top of my list
  • [21:15:05] <Crofton> but, it is getting closer
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  • [21:15:40] <Crofton|work> http://www.altaposten.no/lokalt/nyheter/article316411.ece
  • [21:15:47] <_av500_> well, as angstrom comes with preconfed ce/link, whipping up a sample codec should not be too much work
  • [21:15:50] <Crofton|work> can anyone read this language?
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  • [21:16:03] <_av500_> google, no?
  • [21:16:20] * Crofton|work is being lazy
  • [21:16:29] <_av500_> it says they found a rotating black hole over norway...
  • [21:16:59] <Crofton|work> that is on par with what my friend thinks
  • [21:17:10] <Crofton|work> workhole, russian missle gone bad, etc
  • [21:17:17] <_av500_> swallowing scandinavians only, so we are save
  • [21:17:29] <_av500_> v->f
  • [21:18:34] <ds> robtow: look at leonora for an example of non-trivial code running on the DSP
  • [21:18:50] <_av500_> ds: funny, I was about to ping you :)
  • [21:18:52] <ds> http://code.entropywave.com/git/leonora.git
  • [21:19:00] <_av500_> is it working now?
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  • [21:19:10] <_av500_> as in faster than realtime?
  • [21:19:31] <ds> gosh I thought *everyone* read my blog
  • [21:19:52] <_av500_> cat are my blogroll
  • [21:19:54] <_av500_> ate
  • [21:19:57] <robtow> ds - thanks
  • [21:20:03] <ds> _av500_: yes, up to about 640x360 or so
  • [21:20:17] <_av500_> not enuf
  • [21:20:24] <robtow> Ah, DaVinci.
  • [21:21:22] <ds> _av500_: enough for my contract :)
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  • [21:31:45] <CountDown> There's a negative Y offset on my s-video output when running mplayer. That is, the image is shifted to the left by about 80 pixels, leaving a black vertical stripe on the right side. Anyone know how I can fix that?
  • [21:32:19] <mru> use the dvi output ;-)
  • [21:32:41] <CountDown> Contract sez: s-video. :)
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  • [21:33:32] <CountDown> Also, is this u-boot.bin install guide up-to-date?: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/README.txt
  • [21:33:39] <CountDown> Don't want to brick my board.
  • [21:33:53] <Crofton|work> the beagle is unbrickable
  • [21:34:00] <CountDown> Hah.
  • [21:34:04] <Crofton|work> well, unless you apply 12 volts
  • [21:34:10] <CountDown> Everything is brickable.
  • [21:34:23] <Crofton|work> seriously, there is always a way out unless you destroy the board
  • [21:34:34] <CountDown> Well, that README doesn't mention 12V, so I guess I'll go for it.
  • [21:34:37] <CountDown> Thanks.
  • [21:34:54] <Crofton|work> if it breaks, we can point you at the recovery docs :)
  • [21:35:00] <prpplague> hehe
  • [21:35:15] <CountDown> I have too much time on my hands anyway. :)
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  • [21:35:53] <prpplague> CountDown: i've got to look at s-video for one of my projects as well, but sounds like a timing issue
  • [21:36:42] <CountDown> prpplague: Yeah, I've managed to add an X offset as well by changing some kernel params.
  • [21:39:44] <CountDown> Hm, "nand unlock" isn't supported.
  • [21:39:48] <CountDown> What should I use instead?
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  • [21:44:52] <sakoman> CountDown: just skip the nand unlock stuff, it isn't needed
  • [21:45:23] <CountDown> sakoman: Will do.
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  • [21:47:35] <CountDown> Crofton|work: OK, I'm ready for those recovery instructions. :)
  • [21:47:50] <CountDown> All I'm getting now is:
  • [21:47:50] <CountDown> Texas Instruments X-Loader 1.41
  • [21:47:50] <CountDown> Starting on with MMC
  • [21:48:07] <Crofton|work> did you flash to NAND or SD
  • [21:48:29] <Crofton|work> http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardRecovery
  • [21:48:40] <CountDown> Before I was getting Texas Instruments X-Loader 1.4.2 (Feb 19 2009 - 12:01:24)
  • [21:48:40] <CountDown> Reading boot sector
  • [21:48:40] <CountDown> Loading u-boot.bin from mmc
  • [21:49:02] <CountDown> I followed the instructions at http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/README.txt
  • [21:49:51] <CountDown> Actually, maybe I need to reset the bootcmd and bootargs.
  • [21:49:54] <CountDown> Let me try that.
  • [21:50:33] <CountDown> Er, except I can't.
  • [21:50:57] <CountDown> Er, yes I can.
  • [21:51:15] <CountDown> Forgot about the holding-the-button-down-reset trick.
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  • [21:52:54] <CountDown> But that didn't help. Back to the recovery page...
  • [21:53:40] <_av500_> CountDown: what kernel params?
  • [21:54:20] <CountDown> setenv bootcmd 'mmc init; fatload mmc 0:1 0x80300000 uImage; bootm 0x80300000'
  • [21:54:28] <CountDown> setenv bootargs 'bootdelay=2 psplash=false console=ttyS2, 115200n8 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootdelay=2 rootfstype=ext2 rw omapdss.def_disp=tv omapfb.mode=tv:ntsc'
  • [21:55:03] <CountDown> Should I be using nandboot instead of bootm?
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  • [21:56:41] <CountDown> Oh, I bet I didn't put the files in the FAT32 partition in the correct order.
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  • [22:10:00] <CountDown> What does the nohz kernel option do?
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  • [22:12:54] <_av500_> tickless kernel
  • [22:13:32] <raster> it kills the kernels' little ticker
  • [22:13:41] <raster> poor little ticker... you shall be no more
  • [22:14:38] * raster is still bafffled at the concept of a ticking krnel... that linux kernels have ticked for years... and were not tickless from day 0
  • [22:15:27] <_av500_> tick tock
  • [22:15:43] <raster> goes the playschool clock
  • [22:17:23] <bobo1on1> imagine the number of ticks they clocked away together!
  • [22:17:37] <raster> way too many
  • [22:19:47] <ds2> it hz less
  • [22:20:09] <ds2> useful if the mega hertz gets too painful
  • [22:20:10] <raster> duz it hz cheezburgr?
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  • [22:21:16] <mru> hey raster, what's up?
  • [22:22:02] <raster> mru: hey man! just rubbing the crap out of my eyes and trying to bring myself to get myself on the way to breakie
  • [22:23:45] <XorA> killing little ticker sounds like kernel is neutered now
  • [22:24:13] <CountDown> I'm going through the Rev C validation and hit this problem during boot:
  • [22:24:13] <CountDown> reading normal.scr
  • [22:24:13] <CountDown> Invalid FAT entry
  • [22:24:13] <CountDown> ** Unable to read "normal.scr" from mmc 0:1 **
  • [22:24:32] <CountDown> Any ideas?
  • [22:25:07] <CountDown> This is from a freshly formatted card following the instructions at http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/BeagleboardRevCValidation
  • [22:25:19] <CountDown> Everything up until then was fine.
  • [22:26:11] <CountDown> Seems to be repeatable as well.
  • [22:31:27] <CountDown> From the third to last comment, looks like someone else had the same problem.
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  • [23:23:05] <djlewis_> later guys...
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