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  • [02:25:40] <chandu> hello ,everybody
  • [02:26:04] <chandu> sir, iam doing a project on beagle board
  • [02:27:15] <chandu> i am doing it on the beagle board revicion c3.suggest me which lcd to use
  • [02:28:29] <chandu> is any one there
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  • [02:29:21] <chandu> which cameras to use
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  • [02:54:10] <ZeZu> answer my question now sir, or i will be forced to .... leave !
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  • [05:13:55] <ramongon> Hi I am trying to set a videoconference between 2 beagle using gstreamer to stream the video/audio, I successfully streamed from the beagle and watch it on a laptop but when streaming from the laptop to the beagle I got an "Internal data flow error" form the udpsink , I am trying frist with an mp4 file been stream to the beagle, here is the error: http://pastebin.com/m7701a43b
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  • [08:43:53] <nicroc> hi all
  • [08:44:07] <nicroc> anybody here who can help me
  • [08:44:23] <nicroc> i installed the angtrom demo like manual
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  • [08:45:25] <nicroc> but when i start the beagle with it it is booting up but then it tells me that the rootfs can not be mounted
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  • [08:55:33] <nicroc> i need help with the angstrom dist ... when i start the demo on beagle it has problems mounting the ext partition for rootfs
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  • [08:56:27] <nicroc> same problem when i start debian installer on beagle ... at partition screen i dont get any sd card displayed i can part
  • [08:56:46] <nicroc> so seems so that my beagle has problem with card hardware ?
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  • [08:59:03] <nicroc> anybody here can help me ?
  • [09:01:09] <Entasis> help you what?
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  • [09:08:52] <nicroc> hi entasis
  • [09:09:04] <nicroc> i put angstrom on sd card
  • [09:09:08] <nicroc> like manual
  • [09:09:18] <nicroc> on beagle boot starts
  • [09:09:21] <nicroc> until
  • [09:09:32] <nicroc> rootfs wants to be mounted
  • [09:09:36] <nicroc> then kernel panic
  • [09:09:42] <nicroc> can not mount rootfs
  • [09:10:02] <nicroc> when i try to install debian on beagle with netinst ...all ist fine
  • [09:10:33] <nicroc> until i come to partition screen ... then he doesnt show me any medium [sd space] i can part
  • [09:10:50] <nicroc> so looks like my sd card are not compatible ?
  • [09:10:56] <nicroc> can that be ?
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  • [09:14:37] <nicroc> anybody here knows that problem ?
  • [09:16:04] <Entasis> hrm
  • [09:16:12] <Entasis> got a specific error message?
  • [09:16:24] <alcy> *another noob query*...which specification of HDMI does the board support ? 1.2 , 1.3 or some other ?
  • [09:17:02] <nicroc> when i am in debian installer no error
  • [09:17:20] <nicroc> when i start angstrom
  • [09:17:25] <nicroc> kernel panic
  • [09:17:29] <nicroc> cant mount rootfs
  • [09:17:54] <Entasis> without a reason for why it can't mount?
  • [09:18:17] <nicroc> wait a minute plz
  • [09:18:24] <nicroc> i will start it on beagle
  • [09:18:27] <nicroc> you have 5 min ?
  • [09:18:39] <Entasis> sure
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  • [09:41:30] <gg_> hi
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  • [09:49:43] <nicroc> so entasis
  • [09:49:50] <nicroc> i am ready to boot angstrom now
  • [09:49:55] <Entasis> I see
  • [09:49:56] <nicroc> 1 mom
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  • [09:53:39] <nicroc> so when he stops last message is
  • [09:54:32] <nicroc> Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(2,0)
  • [09:59:27] <Entasis> er
  • [09:59:54] <Entasis> whats the kernel command line?
  • [10:00:32] <nicroc> what you mean with kernel command line
  • [10:01:21] <Entasis> the bootargs
  • [10:02:02] <nicroc> ah i type in at beagle prompt ?
  • [10:02:02] <nicroc> mom
  • [10:02:11] <nicroc> setenv bootargs 'console=ttyS2,115200n8 console=tty0 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootdelay=2 rootfstype=ext3 video=omapfb:vram:2M,vram:4M'
  • [10:02:25] <nicroc> setenv bootcmd 'mmcinit; fatload mmc 0 0x80300000 uImage; bootm 0x80300000'
  • [10:02:36] <nicroc> boot
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  • [10:02:43] <nicroc> you mean that ?
  • [10:02:48] <Entasis> yea
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  • [10:04:26] <nicroc> is it possible to send you my whole boot log here ?
  • [10:04:38] <nicroc> or not importantn to see that ?
  • [10:04:38] <Entasis> well I'm not sure I'll be able to help much
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  • [10:05:18] <Entasis> I haven't seen your problem before, I'm still new at this too :)
  • [10:05:30] <nicroc> ah o
  • [10:05:31] <nicroc> k
  • [10:06:13] <nicroc> is it possible that my sd cards are not good ?
  • [10:06:30] <nicroc> is it important to have special card for that
  • [10:06:59] <nicroc> because when i wnat to setup debian on beagle the debian setup can not find any sd card too
  • [10:07:07] <Entasis> not sure, I don't think that would be the problem if its managing to boot that far
  • [10:07:56] <ZeZu> eh
  • [10:07:59] <nicroc> but till this output the card is only starting on sd card partition 1 with fat
  • [10:08:12] <nicroc> the problem starts with mounting the second one
  • [10:08:18] <ZeZu> yes
  • [10:08:32] <nicroc> hi ZeZu
  • [10:08:35] <ZeZu> what OS is your host machine running ?
  • [10:08:36] <ZeZu> hi
  • [10:08:42] <ZeZu> you have a linux box?
  • [10:09:06] <nicroc> i formated and installed the angstrom on sd with a debian linux right
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  • [10:09:24] <ZeZu> and its ext3 ?
  • [10:09:36] <nicroc> first part is fat32
  • [10:09:41] <nicroc> second one is ext3
  • [10:10:32] <nicroc> fat32 with 50MB
  • [10:10:40] <nicroc> rest on 1GB Card is ext3
  • [10:11:10] <nicroc> it boots up with the problem:
  • [10:11:10] <Entasis> there aren't any other error messages before that? something about why its unable to mount?
  • [10:11:31] <nicroc> can i post you my whole bootup log
  • [10:11:36] <nicroc> and if so how ?
  • [10:11:38] <ZeZu> to pastebin
  • [10:11:45] <ZeZu> there are many paste sites
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  • [10:12:45] <nicroc> http://pastebin.com/m7dcef265
  • [10:13:01] <nicroc> right this way ?
  • [10:13:03] <nicroc> ;-)
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  • [10:13:55] <nicroc> on beagle prompt i boot up with these setting:
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  • [10:14:05] <nicroc> setenv bootargs 'console=ttyS2,115200n8 console=tty0 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootdelay=2 rootfstype=ext3 video=omapfb:vram:2M,vram:4M'
  • [10:14:12] <nicroc> setenv bootcmd 'mmcinit; fatload mmc 0 0x80300000 uImage; bootm 0x80300000'
  • [10:14:15] <nicroc> boot
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  • [10:15:45] <Entasis> maybe its the rootdelay=2 option?
  • [10:15:49] <Entasis> what is that for?
  • [10:16:14] <nicroc> think the time he waits for mounting root fs
  • [10:16:36] <Entasis> where yours says "Waiting 2sec before mounting root device..." mine has "Waiting for root device /dev/mmcblk0p2"
  • [10:16:50] <Entasis> and I don't have that bootarg
  • [10:19:27] <ZeZu> eh
  • [10:19:33] <ZeZu> something looks very wrong there
  • [10:19:41] <adj> rootdelay=2 has been superseded with plain rootwait
  • [10:20:10] <ZeZu> yes but i dont think that is the problem, looks like it doesn't even see the SD card
  • [10:20:44] <ZeZu> can deff. try rootwait, maybe it is the issue .. but the only thing it seems to say it found is mtdblock=flash
  • [10:20:51] <Entasis> ZeZu: I think thats why it needs to wait...
  • [10:21:20] <ZeZu> yes, but superceded or not, rootdelay does still work AFAIK
  • [10:21:55] <ZeZu> obviously its functional, the kernel is on the card as well
  • [10:24:45] <nicroc> i started without rootdelay
  • [10:24:48] <nicroc> same problem
  • [10:25:09] <adj> did you try with rootwait?
  • [10:25:38] <nicroc> how does it look like ?
  • [10:25:39] <nicroc> ;-)
  • [10:25:50] <nicroc> i think the main problem is here or not: [ 21.810791] VFS: Cannot open root device "mmcblk0p2" or unknown-block(2,0)
  • [10:26:26] <adj> try with rootwait
  • [10:26:58] <nicroc> so like that : setenv bootargs 'console=ttyS2,115200n8 console=tty0 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootwait rootfstype=ext3 video=omapfb:vram:2M,vram:4M'
  • [10:27:48] <nicroc> ah you are my man ;-)
  • [10:27:50] <nicroc> that was it
  • [10:27:53] <nicroc> rootwait
  • [10:28:25] <nicroc> can type in my user details now
  • [10:28:38] <nicroc> but it looks like my usb hub doesnt work
  • [10:28:40] <nicroc> any idea ?
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  • [10:28:55] <Entasis> in which usb port?
  • [10:29:06] <nicroc> the mini usb on beagle
  • [10:29:54] <adj> time for cable lottery :)
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  • [10:31:27] <nicroc> i dont think its a cable problem
  • [10:31:38] <Entasis> oh?
  • [10:31:50] <nicroc> when i start debian netsetup on beagle the setup gets the usb hub with my keyboard
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  • [10:35:46] <nicroc> any idea ?
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  • [10:36:41] <nicroc> could it be a driver problem for the usb hub ?
  • [10:36:46] <nicroc> should i try another one ?
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  • [10:51:47] <ZeZu> not sure on beagle, but the usb chipset on pandora is extremely picky
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  • [11:06:41] <hrw> morning
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  • [11:13:18] <nicroc> morning
  • [11:13:21] <nicroc> ;-)
  • [11:13:51] <nicroc> anybody here can tell why my beagle has problem getting my usb hub ?
  • [11:13:59] <nicroc> on angstrom system
  • [11:14:10] <nicroc> my keyboard doent work
  • [11:14:25] <nicroc> when i have to type in user details
  • [11:14:55] <nicroc> its not a cable problem i think because when i starts debian netsetup on beagle the setup gets thew hub and the keyboard is running
  • [11:23:39] <mru> morning
  • [11:23:49] <mru> it's rain _and_ sun here today
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  • [11:31:06] <mru> on second thoughts, maybe it's better to troll later
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  • [11:40:45] <nicroc> hi there
  • [11:41:10] <nicroc> anybody here can tell me why my usb hub is not working on angstrom demo dist but in debian netinstaller ?
  • [11:41:35] <mru> maybe because angstrom is better
  • [11:41:42] <mru> errr...
  • [11:41:58] <mru> misread that
  • [11:42:15] <nicroc> ;-)
  • [11:42:24] <nicroc> my goal is a runnign angstrom dis
  • [11:42:39] <mru> look for koen
  • [11:42:40] <nicroc> but without any keyboard on it i cant use it
  • [11:43:13] <nicroc> he can answer it ?
  • [11:43:57] <mru> he's the resident angstrom/oe guru
  • [11:45:15] <nicroc> ah ok ;-)
  • [11:45:26] <nicroc> so i have to wait for him here ?
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  • [11:56:17] <XorA> nicroc: look at _koen_ :-D
  • [11:56:35] * XorA doesnt have a C3 beagle for Angstrom testing
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  • [12:21:18] <hrw> or any other Cx ver?
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  • [12:32:23] <Crofton> which port is the kb on?
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  • [12:50:51] <Drumpi> Hello
  • [12:51:36] <Drumpi> i'm new with this board... an linux
  • [12:51:44] <wuulong> does beagle can run openwrt?
  • [12:51:57] <Drumpi> so, i need a little help formating an SD
  • [12:52:30] <Drumpi> can anyone help me one moment? (just 1 sec)
  • [12:52:44] <Drumpi> please
  • [12:54:59] <Drumpi> i'm following the wiki to format my SD, but when i'm setting the number of last cylinder with +50 i get an error message
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  • [12:56:30] <Drumpi> something like suffix not allowed: ' '
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  • [12:57:20] <Drumpi> and a text about size type (kilobytes, megabytes...)
  • [12:57:52] <mru> that's because the + syntax takes a size in k, M, or G, not a cylinder count
  • [12:59:14] <Drumpi> so, if the wiki says i must write [+50], i must write [initial cylinder + 50]
  • [12:59:21] <Drumpi> no?
  • [12:59:39] <mru> I don't know what the wiki says
  • [12:59:55] <mru> I usually make the first partition 10M or so
  • [13:00:00] <mru> that's room enough for a few kernels
  • [13:00:40] <Drumpi> http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardBeginners
  • [13:00:52] <Drumpi> in sd card setup
  • [13:01:10] <Drumpi> the 7th step
  • [13:01:38] <Drumpi> it says i must use 50 cylinders to boot partition
  • [13:03:20] <adj> just type +10M
  • [13:03:45] <Drumpi> ok, thanks a lot !!!!
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  • [14:20:21] <djlewis> gm
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  • [14:28:15] <mru> morning djlewis
  • [14:28:47] <djlewis> best of the morning to ya mru
  • [14:28:57] <mru> morning's long gone here
  • [14:29:21] <djlewis> I know. kinda at mid morning here.
  • [14:30:21] <djlewis> we are having a cold snap nights. about 0C
  • [14:30:34] <mru> brrr
  • [14:30:44] <mru> we're having rain
  • [14:30:51] <mru> and after rain we have more rain
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  • [14:31:17] <javaJake> "Let it rain, let it rain, let it rain..."
  • [14:31:21] <prpplague> very mild so far this fall in the dfw area
  • [14:31:43] <javaJake> Or, alternatively... "Let the stormy clouds chase everyone from the place..."
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  • [14:32:06] <djlewis> we had our forty days and nights of rain more than once this year.
  • [14:32:23] <javaJake> Ouch
  • [14:32:23] <javaJake> UL?
  • [14:32:23] <javaJake> UK*
  • [14:32:29] * mru is in the uk
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  • [14:32:43] <francesco_> hello
  • [14:32:46] <javaJake> UK citizens must be used to it, I'd imagine
  • [14:32:52] <javaJake> Hey francesco_ :)
  • [14:32:55] <francesco_> i've a question :)
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  • [14:33:21] <francesco_> when c4 revision will exit?
  • [14:33:34] <javaJake> francesco_: now, I believe
  • [14:33:40] <javaJake> francesco_: the last c3's got shipped recently, iirc
  • [14:33:59] <francesco_> so...
  • [14:34:02] <francesco_> i'm ordering it now
  • [14:34:09] <francesco_> and it's not in stock
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  • [14:34:18] <francesco_> next stock will be on 4th december
  • [14:34:26] <francesco_> do you think these will be c4?
  • [14:35:06] * mru is not a uk citizen
  • [14:35:17] <javaJake> francesco_: http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/f5f14f4ec66ab45d/f0fb84415c78c7fe#msg_c6e58a13ec707ee0
  • [14:37:35] <javaJake> francesco_: they won't resume beagle shipments until next year, apparently
  • [14:38:01] <javaJake> mru: ah, sorry, I automatically assume people don't travel :P
  • [14:38:17] <francesco_> tranks javaJake
  • [14:38:18] <francesco_> :P
  • [14:38:23] <francesco_> *thanks
  • [14:38:26] <rs_> anyone using a usb gsm here
  • [14:39:56] <mru> javaJake: bad assumption
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  • [14:40:19] <mru> last week I was out with a group of friends, someone noticed that the 8 of us were all from different countries
  • [14:40:39] <javaJake> Nice
  • [14:40:49] <mru> there was one englishman among them
  • [14:41:53] <prpplague> hehe, around here, you are lucky if you find a group of people who aren't all from the same county
  • [14:48:56] <mru> I like a bit of diversity
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  • [14:50:21] <djlewis> mru: so what is the common language?
  • [14:50:31] <mru> english
  • [14:50:38] <mru> many of them speak spanish though
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  • [14:51:34] <mru> this is england after all
  • [14:51:41] <mru> hard to be here and not speak english
  • [14:51:54] <mru> also, I don't speak spanish
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  • [15:05:58] * djlewis speaks arkansan and texan (US)
  • [15:06:12] <Crofton|work> Texican
  • [15:06:44] <XorA> Texicant
  • [15:08:02] * mru goes out to buy more coffee
  • [15:08:53] * djlewis gets up for a refill of coffee
  • [15:09:29] <djlewis> its tewnty miles to the nearest open store.
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  • [15:16:19] <rs_> djlewis: do you use usb gsm on omap3
  • [15:24:54] <djlewis> no.
  • [15:25:46] <djlewis> rs_: why not ast the group rather than one person?
  • [15:25:58] <djlewis> s/ast/ask
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  • [15:27:06] <rs_> no i just saw a blog where a name similar to yours was mentioned http://blogs.distant-earth.com/wp/
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  • [15:27:16] <rs_> i saw usb modem messages there
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  • [15:55:03] <akshat> hi
  • [15:55:24] <akshat> I just got my beagle :)
  • [15:56:11] <cjp> I've just had a coffee :-)
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  • [15:56:35] <akshat> cjp: :)
  • [15:56:46] <cjp> Beagle is better :-)
  • [15:56:56] * mru has both
  • [15:57:11] <akshat> I would like some recommendation on the kind of power adapter to be used
  • [15:57:13] <mru> girls are better though
  • [15:57:26] <mru> akshat: 5V regulated, enough current
  • [15:57:42] <akshat> how much over 5V is ok?
  • [15:57:52] <mru> not a lot
  • [15:57:59] <mru> it's mentioned somewhere
  • [15:58:22] <akshat> mru: ok
  • [15:58:44] <mru> it's a regulated PSU rated 5V it should be ok
  • [15:58:56] <mru> *if
  • [15:59:40] <akshat> mru: k
  • [15:59:44] <akshat> thanks
  • [16:03:07] <djlewis> 5.2vDC MAX!
  • [16:03:09] <akshat> mru: I have a powered usb hub that would be providing the power to most of the device but I am still going for a 2amp supply. do you think it is an overkill?
  • [16:03:36] <akshat> djlewis: thanks! you just saved me. I was about to purchase a 5.3V supply
  • [16:03:44] <djlewis> hehee
  • [16:03:50] <akshat> djlewis: just at the right time ! :)
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  • [16:04:41] <djlewis> Beagle has little onbpard regulation. Specs are for 5.2 tops. more can cause hurt the more, the faster.
  • [16:04:54] <djlewis> onbpard=onboard
  • [16:05:00] <XiXaQ> they say beagleboard is 3in*3in. I guess it must have one more dimension, what's that? :)
  • [16:05:32] <XiXaQ> and, can it be mounted in a completely closed way, with no airsupply at all?
  • [16:05:35] <djlewis> 3x3 does not include plugging in devices.
  • [16:05:40] <akshat> djlewis: I didn't get you. can you repeat
  • [16:06:21] <djlewis> akshat: just stay between 4.75vDC and 5.2vDC ans you are good to go.
  • [16:06:37] <djlewis> some have used less voltage to runn off LIPO battery.
  • [16:06:47] <cjp> XiXaQ: perhaps 3 x 3 refers to board dimensions? The "3rd" dimension for height.
  • [16:06:56] <cjp> :-)
  • [16:07:26] <XiXaQ> djlewis, I understand that. I thought maybe it'd be cool to make a desktop with it. That is, an actual desktop with beagleboard embedded. USB hub could be placed elsewhere on the desktop with usb outlets spread around.
  • [16:08:08] <akshat> djlewis: ok
  • [16:08:51] <djlewis> XiXaQ: I thought you might have been thinking submersible.
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  • [16:09:09] <XiXaQ> djlewis, that would be cool too! :)
  • [16:09:37] <djlewis> there is no need to completely seal the BB unless you take it in the shower then.
  • [16:10:13] <XiXaQ> djlewis, or a flying saucer-shaped RC helium balloon with webcam, GPS and 3G internet. :)
  • [16:10:23] <djlewis> cool.. :)
  • [16:10:35] <djlewis> trying to make the news ;)
  • [16:10:42] <XiXaQ> djlewis, no, but anyway, is it possible to enclose it completely like that?
  • [16:11:11] <djlewis> I have never gotten my BB more than a little warm.
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  • [16:12:02] <djlewis> I think the ony thing that heats the little 2-watt board is too much input voltage.
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  • [16:12:39] <XiXaQ> djlewis, well. When the aliens come, I'll tell them "you can have _your_ stuff. I have beagleboard and Linux in mine! If you give me your anti-gravity specs, I'll give you my specs" :)
  • [16:13:02] <djlewis> which btw, reminds me I saw a 1Ghz 2 watt x86 board last night
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  • [16:14:15] <djlewis> so they claimed.
  • [16:14:42] <akshat> djlewis: where was this ?
  • [16:14:57] <XiXaQ> beagleboard only supports DVI-D? Does all new monitors support this?
  • [16:15:08] <djlewis> I knew I shouldn't mention it without better memory :P
  • [16:15:12] <mru> all my monitors do ;-)
  • [16:15:21] <akshat> :)
  • [16:15:38] <XiXaQ> mru, is it the general DVI plug? I've never used one of those. I've only used the old VGA plug :)
  • [16:15:40] <djlewis> Oh, this thing had a miniPCI socket for a add on DVI, vga.
  • [16:15:42] <mru> it's possible to buy monitors w/o dvi-d
  • [16:16:01] <mru> you'd be a fool to do so imo
  • [16:16:02] <djlewis> mru: I have a half dozen I'll sell you.
  • [16:16:13] <XiXaQ> mru, if it has HDMI, should I assume it can use DVI-D?
  • [16:17:34] <mru> hdmi *is* dvi-d
  • [16:17:38] <XiXaQ> oh.
  • [16:17:39] <mru> give or take
  • [16:17:54] <mru> the hdmi spec adds some additional constraints
  • [16:17:59] <mru> and the plug is different
  • [16:18:37] <XiXaQ> we have a hardware shop guide (price guide) in norway, where you can search for all kinds of hardware based on specs. I tried searching for DVI-D, but that resulted in very few results. Many more on HDMI though.
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  • [16:24:04] <akshat> XiXaQ: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard --> read the section on DVI
  • [16:24:10] <dual> Anyone here running LXDE on the beagle board?
  • [16:25:04] <djlewis> akshat: Look at the RoboBoard specs, http://www.trossenrobotics.com/c/roboard-robot-computers.aspx
  • [16:26:44] <djlewis> typo, Roboard
  • [16:27:05] <XiXaQ> akshat, thanks :)
  • [16:28:09] <akshat> XiXaQ: welcome
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  • [16:28:33] <mru> XiXaQ: the beagle can drive an hdmi monitor
  • [16:28:53] <el_chapo> hello everyone :)
  • [16:28:58] <XiXaQ> mru, but only up to 1280x1024?
  • [16:29:44] <el_chapo> could you please give soe hints on how to get X-windows from console-image?
  • [16:29:46] <mru> the beagle can output up to 2048x2048
  • [16:30:02] <mru> you can get 1080p30
  • [16:30:07] <mru> or 720p60
  • [16:30:31] <mru> it is limited by the pixel clock
  • [16:31:18] <akshat> djlewis: nice :)
  • [16:31:31] <djlewis> but pricey.
  • [16:31:46] <akshat> djlewis: yes
  • [16:31:49] <djlewis> the starter kit is the way to go if one wants video. There is a savings.
  • [16:31:59] <akshat> djlewis: and it comes with nothing but connectors!
  • [16:32:06] <djlewis> and all the interface cables.
  • [16:32:28] <djlewis> the basic comes with nothing. The starter kit includes video and cables
  • [16:32:33] <akshat> djlewis: ok
  • [16:32:44] <djlewis> THe way I read it anyway :)
  • [16:32:54] * djlewis is looking at the hardware manual now.
  • [16:32:55] <akshat> :)
  • [16:33:43] <el_chapo> denix: are you here?
  • [16:34:07] <akshat> djlewis: http://focus.ti.com/docs/prod/folders/print/tps65950.html mentions 4.5 vin(max). have the specs changed?
  • [16:35:22] <djlewis> By disabling some features some people have runn on less. Not optimum though.
  • [16:35:53] <akshat> djlewis: no. I meant the 5V rating that we are following for the beagle supply
  • [16:36:18] <djlewis> THe spec for BB is in the BBSRM
  • [16:37:12] <akshat> djlewis: yes, but are we not using the same chip?
  • [16:37:35] <djlewis> I go by the specs, I am not trying to push the BB envelope.
  • [16:37:51] <akshat> djlewis: ok :)
  • [16:38:09] <djlewis> I figure the guys that designed it have a clue as to what they are doing :)
  • [16:38:22] <el_chapo> anyone ccan give some advise on what opackages are necesary to install to get X-windows from console-only image?
  • [16:38:23] <akshat> djlewis: yes. certainly
  • [16:38:59] <djlewis> el_chapo: the desktop image.
  • [16:39:37] <el_chapo> do you mean opkg install desktop?
  • [16:39:44] <djlewis> akshat: I hope to just be able to interface my hardware and have that and the software work reliably :)
  • [16:40:17] <djlewis> el_chapo: no, I mean the desktop image has that. Otherwise I think you have a list of installs to do.
  • [16:40:54] <el_chapo> that's exactly what I'm looking for - wht is on that list :)
  • [16:41:02] <djlewis> el_chapo: can you get by with fb mode?
  • [16:41:15] <el_chapo> ???
  • [16:41:34] <djlewis> framebuffer for graphics in console
  • [16:41:42] <el_chapo> I have console invitation on my screen
  • [16:42:09] <el_chapo> so I assume framebuffer is ok
  • [16:42:11] <XiXaQ> bbl
  • [16:42:35] <djlewis> el_chapo: fb mode works well with webcams and video's.
  • [16:42:37] <akshat> djlewis: yes. I was just enquiring because I don't want to mess up the board. just trying to be safe :)
  • [16:43:07] <djlewis> akshat: go by the BBSRM then.
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  • [16:43:58] <djlewis> el_chapo: I dont know what all is required to add X alone.
  • [16:44:33] <mru> you need A-W first
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  • [16:44:52] <akshat> djlewis: yes
  • [16:44:55] <akshat> djlewis: thanks
  • [16:45:19] <djlewis> mru: sounds like quite a list.
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  • [16:53:47] <Crofton|work> koen, http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/tmlind/linux-omap-2.6.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/mux
  • [16:53:56] <Crofton|work> I need to read through this
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  • [17:19:25] <rattubhai> got a quickie .. im planning to use this beagle board for my design project ...
  • [17:19:44] <rattubhai> my questions are gonna be stupid given my relative experience with microprocessors ..
  • [17:20:37] <rattubhai> how do we program the omap3350? my guess is through jtag?
  • [17:21:02] <prpplague> rattubhai: the SoC has several boot methods including via uart and sd card
  • [17:21:24] <prpplague> rattubhai: JTAG is someone redundant for system loading for the OMAP3 due to these options
  • [17:22:07] <rattubhai> so what if i want to program the omap myself
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  • [17:22:47] <XiXaQ> did I understand correctly before, that using graphics beyond 1280x1024 is possible, but requires an addon card/module?
  • [17:23:21] <rattubhai> basically i wanna program the processor to handle dsp related tasks
  • [17:23:29] <XiXaQ> and if so, is it possible to mount the addon modules side by side instead of on top of each other? A main goal of mine, is to have it as slim as possible.
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  • [17:25:37] <rattubhai> dsp related tasks coming in from the input say the vga input .. routing it onto the omap and getting some output from the i2c (is my goal)
  • [17:26:22] <rattubhai> of course there are algorithms that are planned to process live frames coming in from the vga or dvi
  • [17:26:30] <rattubhai> anyone/
  • [17:26:32] <rattubhai> ?
  • [17:26:45] <XiXaQ> hehe, I wanted to know what the life expectancy of a beagle board was, so I searched google for "life expectancy beagle board". I got a result saying 12-15 years. "That's nice", I nodded to myself and then I discovered the site was about dogs. :)
  • [17:27:18] <akshat> XiXaQ: lol
  • [17:27:37] <XiXaQ> does anyone know what the life expectancy of a beagle board is when run at 500MHz? The site sais clocking it to 600MHz will not result in "the same life expectancy", but doesn't say what that is.
  • [17:28:01] <ThomasEgi> XiXaQ, lol ++ :D well it has no mechanical parts. so as long as you dont exceed the operational parameters or do a heck of a lot write cycles on the nand. it should run fine for long time
  • [17:28:11] <rattubhai> <prpplague> dsp related tasks coming in from the input say the vga input .. routing it onto the omap and getting some output from the i2c (is my goal)
  • [17:28:49] <prpplague> rattubhai: uh what?
  • [17:29:12] <rattubhai> um .. basically i wanna do real time image processing on the omap
  • [17:29:21] <prpplague> ok
  • [17:29:31] <XiXaQ> ThomasEgi, I realise that, but what does "long time" mean?
  • [17:29:38] <rattubhai> first of all is that even possible by talking to the omap thru the jtag?
  • [17:30:28] <prpplague> rattubhai: yes it is possible using OpenOCD, however JTAG support is not needed to program the OMAP3
  • [17:30:53] <ThomasEgi> XiXaQ, dunno. but i see no reason what would fail on a begbleboard. except for the nand memory after too many write cycles.
  • [17:30:54] <rattubhai> ok .. openOCD ... is that provided with the board?
  • [17:31:26] <prpplague> rattubhai: no, again you don't need jtag to work with the OMAP3 unless you have very very very specific debugging requirements
  • [17:31:37] <XiXaQ> ThomasEgi, and there is no problems with using a standard 2.5" SSD using USB instead?
  • [17:32:17] <ThomasEgi> well i did not engineer the omap chip but there should be no problems.
  • [17:32:25] <rattubhai> right .. sry im sounding like a nube but where do i get openocd
  • [17:33:20] <prpplague> rattubhai: http://www.elinux.org/BeagleBoardOpenOCD
  • [17:33:33] <prpplague> rattubhai: pretty much everything you wanted to know about the beagle is on the wiki
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  • [17:34:12] <prpplague> rattubhai: just going to tell you one more time, you don't need jtag to program the OMAP3 , you can upload initial code via the uart or via the sd card slot
  • [17:34:47] <akshat> rattubhai: you are talking of realtime here. The Jtag interface is generally not closed at high frequency and will not serve your purpose.
  • [17:35:10] <akshat> rattubhai: using other methods as suggested by prpplague are way better
  • [17:36:21] <akshat> rattubhai: and as fas as I can tell you can use the DSP while running linux, so why reinvent the wheel , rather linux as the OS will help you concentrate more on the DSP front rather that coding for the whole system
  • [17:37:02] <akshat> rattubhai: if you do things from scratch you will have to learn about arm cortex A8 as well as the TI dsp
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  • [17:37:06] <rattubhai> ok ... i got it about the jtag .. in fact its 1.8V sensitive anyway so i wanna avoid that
  • [17:37:20] <rattubhai> um akshat how do i access the dsp front right away?
  • [17:37:27] <akshat> rattubhai: double whammy ;)
  • [17:37:43] <rattubhai> sry im no pro here .. ill read up on it .. hopefully come back here .. maybe u can gime some links ..
  • [17:37:57] <akshat> rattubhai: I am no expert at this but others here might have the answers
  • [17:38:43] <akshat> rattubhai: read the DSP manual for starters, stick to the basics at first.. the details can be dealt with later
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  • [17:40:44] <rattubhai> thx akshat .. now the dsp is the TMS320C64x core right? so i should prolly google a manual for that model no. ?
  • [17:41:36] <akshat> yes.
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  • [17:43:35] <rattubhai> ok but can u say ur sure if u need a usb cable or maybe the sd card from loading the dsp algorithms onto the dsp core of the chip?
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  • [17:48:02] <rattubhai> lets say if i do end up debugging the cortex a8 for example, where do I get the jtag cable from and is the other end connected to a usb blaster like the altera ones have ?
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  • [17:48:32] <mru> I wouldn't worry about the jtag
  • [17:48:35] <mru> you won't need it
  • [17:51:02] <rattubhai> k .. but was i right about what it looks like (just making sure)
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  • [17:53:23] <rattubhai> if im not wrong the dvi and vga can be configured as inputs right? for sure?
  • [17:55:01] <XiXaQ> as inputs? What do you mean by that?
  • [17:55:36] <rattubhai> like if i connect a source to the vga for example
  • [17:55:45] <XiXaQ> you mean like one pc to another?
  • [17:56:06] <rattubhai> and manipulate the frams on the dsp core
  • [17:56:18] <rattubhai> um sure ... i was planning on hooking a video camera ...
  • [17:56:50] <XiXaQ> I've actually been looking for something like that to record heavy video from one pc on another.
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  • [18:09:11] <steve_> hello, I was wondering if anyone knew if it were possible to use the USB OTG port to program the BeagleBoard for use as a computer peripheral of my choosing. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thank you!
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  • [18:31:16] <ThomasEgi> steve_, i guess that's what the OTG was designed for. thought i cant tell you how exactly that is done
  • [18:32:14] <ThomasEgi> http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard#OTG
  • [18:32:22] <prpplague> steve_: using a linux based device as a specific slave function is called "USB gadget driver"
  • [18:32:43] <prpplague> steve_: there are a number of drivers available including networking, mass storage, and uart
  • [18:33:33] <prpplague> steve_: the infrastructure of the gadget drivers is such that you can create a wide range of gadget support for specific devices
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  • [18:49:38] <steve_> prpplague: thanks for your help! I had seen the usb gadget driver, but I was unsure of how mature it was, or it was working with beagle, since I have seen many diagrams of "how to fix usb otg" by shorting wires
  • [18:49:57] <steve_> I will be researching the otg system for linux drivers
  • [18:50:03] <steve_> thanks again!
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  • [19:17:01] <tarun100> Hey guys, I got a quick question about the Beagle board
  • [19:17:10] <mru> go ahead
  • [19:17:27] <tarun100> I am planning on hooking up a live camera feed to my board
  • [19:18:04] <tarun100> and then performn an optical flow analysis using linux
  • [19:18:35] <tarun100> would it be better if i just use a netbook with a base linux loaded onto it instead?
  • [19:19:43] <tarun100> like in terms of performance, what would be better?
  • [19:21:09] <mru> depends entirely on the specifics of your application
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  • [19:22:18] <rattubhai> is linux preloaded onto the board?
  • [19:23:18] <tarun100> I am just trying to analyze the feed frame by frame and detect the moment of certain pixels on the screen
  • [19:24:56] <tarun100> so i guess I am looking for performance and efficiency more than anything else
  • [19:25:24] <tarun100> Umm, ratnesh, I dont think its preloaded. It's not a big deal, you can preload it
  • [19:25:47] <tarun100> or else you can get the EVR board that has the linux bsp preloaded onto it
  • [19:26:00] <rattubhai> well if its an easy task then i guess i dont care ..
  • [19:26:10] <tarun100> its easy...
  • [19:26:54] <rattubhai> aite man ill take my word for it ...
  • [19:27:19] <tarun100> so is it netbook/beagleboard
  • [19:27:19] <rattubhai> this place is useless .. there was some activity before ...
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  • [19:27:20] <rattubhai> man i was gonna ask these guys ...
  • [19:27:58] <tarun100> mru? any idea?
  • [19:30:21] <mru> the omap has the dsp, which might be useful
  • [19:30:40] <mru> rattubhai: it's friday, people are probably out enjoying themselves
  • [19:31:02] <mru> I'll be going out myself when I've had something to eat
  • [19:32:14] <rattubhai> say that if im loading u guys with questions friday night ... its just afternoon ... anyone else?
  • [19:32:45] <rattubhai> we want an idea of the performance of the dsp on the arm
  • [19:32:50] <mru> it's 7:30pm here
  • [19:33:27] <rattubhai> shudve known ... oh i c u guys r from germany?
  • [19:33:50] <rattubhai> ma bad
  • [19:33:57] <tarun100> Thanks a lot, mru
  • [19:34:07] <_av500__> gm
  • [19:34:56] * mru is in england
  • [19:35:29] <tarun100> Actually, it seems the dsp would be bettter for our application, ratnesh
  • [19:36:05] <tarun100> Apparently, if we have an alogorithm that we basically go through repeatedly, dsps perform way more faster
  • [19:36:36] <tarun100> Know what I mean?
  • [19:36:56] <mru> that's a bit a of a generalisation
  • [19:37:35] <mru> the dsp is very good if you have instruction-level paralellism
  • [19:38:34] <ds2> how parallel can you get?
  • [19:39:06] <mru> 8 on the c64x
  • [19:39:42] <tarun100> yes, so if i split my input image into 8 and then parallel process it, i believe that it would be pretty fast
  • [19:39:46] <ds2> so if all you are doing is 8bit quantities, NEON should be in the same ball park and probally ahead once you add the overhead of sending to the DSP
  • [19:39:50] <ds2> right?
  • [19:39:51] <tarun100> atleast fast enough for our application (ratnesh)
  • [19:40:10] <_av500__> ds2: sending to dsp can have small overhead
  • [19:40:21] <_av500__> if the data itself is big
  • [19:40:38] <mru> sending to? what are you talking about?
  • [19:40:43] <ds2> _av500_: small but IIRC, NEON can do 8 8bit ops in parallel without any of hte overhead
  • [19:40:48] <tarun100> Umm, I am looking at a 320x280 image
  • [19:40:52] <mru> retrieve data directly into shared memory
  • [19:40:54] <mru> send pointer to dsp
  • [19:40:57] <tarun100> at 60 fps
  • [19:41:04] <_av500__> ds2: yes, but the dsp does it while the arm does other things :)
  • [19:41:25] <tarun100> Right
  • [19:41:40] <ds2> _av500_: but they'd still need to sync up unless you are designing it to run synchronously in lock step
  • [19:41:44] <_av500__> yes, neon is faster than dsp, sgx and dma, but they can all run in parallel...
  • [19:41:57] <_av500__> ds2: sure you need to sync
  • [19:42:11] <tarun100> how hard is that going to be?
  • [19:42:56] <_av500__> youll basically do a per frame process, right?
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  • [19:43:06] <_av500__> so it is similar to e.g. a video encoder
  • [19:43:10] <tarun100> We are working on a student project and I pretty much have only a couple weeks of experience of a Coldfire 68000 board
  • [19:43:29] <ds2> I think someone should put together a dualing banjo style talk show the DSP and the NEON
  • [19:43:30] <tarun100> Yeap, per frame
  • [19:43:30] <_av500__> frame goes in some data goes out
  • [19:43:30] <tarun100> I am trying to do an optical flow analysis on every frame
  • [19:43:32] <ds2> av500: but the NEON unit can run in parallel with the ARM itself anyways
  • [19:43:47] <_av500__> ds2: not really
  • [19:43:52] <mru> semi-parallel
  • [19:43:58] <_av500__> you cant run thread a on arm and b on neon
  • [19:44:01] <mru> the arm can feed instruction to neon faster than neon can execute
  • [19:44:13] <tarun100> and detect the motion of a certain pixels on every image
  • [19:44:16] <mru> so if you fill up the fifo, you can run arm stuff while it drains
  • [19:44:24] <ds2> _av500__: sure, you can, just tricky scheduling ;)
  • [19:44:27] <_av500__> tarun100: sounds like a video encoder :)
  • [19:44:32] <ds2> any interrupts and you are AFU ;)
  • [19:44:35] <_av500__> ds2: lockstep
  • [19:45:00] <tarun100> Kind of
  • [19:45:06] <ds2> _av500__: what mru just said seems to suggest otherwise
  • [19:45:38] <tarun100> but the thing is that, I am really handicapped since I hardly have any experience with microcontrollers
  • [19:45:43] <tarun100> and I am still an undergrad
  • [19:45:47] <_av500__> that is good
  • [19:45:55] <_av500__> the omap3 is not a microcontroller
  • [19:45:55] <tarun100> so half the things you guys are saying are going over my head :)
  • [19:46:02] <ds2> tarun100: learn... learn fast...
  • [19:46:14] <tarun100> haha, i have 8 months
  • [19:46:23] <ds2> dive inhead first, you'll come back up.... either as a corpse or as an expert
  • [19:46:23] <mru> the omap is not a uc
  • [19:46:31] <hyc> once you understand how to program one CPU, you can pretty much program any
  • [19:46:47] <ds2> omap is as much as a microcontroller as an x86 is one
  • [19:46:49] <tarun100> thats the hard part, i dont have that experience
  • [19:46:57] <hyc> tho Coldfire is a pretty nice one, I think
  • [19:47:00] <tarun100> i have jsut done some basic projects on the 68000
  • [19:47:04] <ds2> the only way to get experience is to do it
  • [19:47:20] <tarun100> That's what I am hoping to do right now
  • [19:47:28] <tarun100> how do you guys suggest i get a feel of things?
  • [19:47:40] <tarun100> are there any emulators available for this board?
  • [19:47:44] <_av500__> no
  • [19:47:53] <ds2> just get the board
  • [19:48:03] <tarun100> Alright
  • [19:48:08] <tarun100> so here is a noob question
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  • [19:48:19] <tarun100> how do i load the OS onto the board
  • [19:48:26] <tarun100> (i am guessing that I will be using linux)
  • [19:48:36] <ds2> how? you send it bits ;)
  • [19:48:44] <tarun100> via the jtag?
  • [19:48:47] <_av500_> tarun100: www.beagleboard.org
  • [19:48:55] <mru> sd card is the simplest
  • [19:48:55] <ds2> for extra fun and excitment, you can do it bare metal
  • [19:49:04] <_av500_> butterflies
  • [19:49:10] <tarun100> lol
  • [19:49:20] <tarun100> sd card it is
  • [19:49:33] <ds2> ignore Linux and just turn U-boot into your app
  • [19:49:46] <ds2> don't need to activate the stinkin MMU or the interrupts
  • [19:50:26] <tarun100> another noob question: can i interface the board to the pc via the usb?
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  • [19:50:36] <ds2> yep
  • [19:50:38] <ds2> OTG port
  • [19:50:40] <tarun100> sweet
  • [19:51:24] <tarun100> what do dev tools do you use to program it?
  • [19:51:38] <tarun100> what dev tools*
  • [19:51:54] <_av500_> gcc
  • [19:52:00] <mru> hexedit
  • [19:52:42] <tarun100> thanks, ill note both of them
  • [19:52:48] <mru> I'm joking
  • [19:53:07] <tarun100> lol, that's how bad i am at this
  • [19:53:12] <ds2> cat ;)
  • [19:53:17] <mru> mouse
  • [19:54:00] <mru> it seems that those who survive that head-first dive ds2 mentioned all come back a bit weird
  • [19:54:10] <hyc> mmmm, that just gave me an idea.
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  • [19:54:30] <hyc> a neon-toggle-switch front panel that connects via USB
  • [19:54:53] <tarun100> Alright, so I'll startoff by buying the board and get it booting!
  • [19:55:08] <tarun100> fun
  • [19:55:23] <mru> fun for sure
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  • [19:56:31] <tarun100> Can you suggest me any reference books/sites that could help me start programming
  • [19:56:51] <mru> what do you know?
  • [19:57:09] <mru> do you know C?
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  • [19:57:19] <tarun100> I know c, c++, c# and some low level programming on the 68000
  • [19:57:27] <tarun100> a bit but not too advanced
  • [19:57:30] <tarun100> just university stuff
  • [19:57:30] <mru> c++ and c# are irrelevant
  • [19:57:36] <mru> possibly even harmful
  • [19:57:44] <mru> done 68k assembler?
  • [19:57:52] <tarun100> I am still an undergrad, so this is all relatively new to me
  • [19:57:59] <tarun100> yeah, i did that actually
  • [19:58:09] <mru> then you'll be fine
  • [19:58:13] <mru> arm assembler is much easier
  • [19:58:24] <tarun100> i loved programming on the 68000. just took me a couple days to learn the coding style
  • [19:59:20] <tarun100> awesome
  • [19:59:59] <tarun100> but eventually for me to finish the project, would you suggest me using linux as my os?
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  • [20:11:56] <_av500_> yes
  • [20:12:27] <tarun100> cool, thanks
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  • [20:14:35] <bobkatzz> hope everyone had a nice TG!!
  • [20:14:44] <mru> hi bobkatzz
  • [20:14:55] <bobkatzz> if you are in a place that celebrates TG!
  • [20:15:00] * mru isn't
  • [20:15:02] <bobkatzz> hey mru
  • [20:15:09] <bobkatzz> heh
  • [20:15:20] <_av500_> bobkatzz: hello
  • [20:15:44] <bobkatzz> hey _av500_ - long time
  • [20:16:04] <rattubhai> TARUN I KNOW DSPS ARE FASTER ... WHAT DID U THINK I WAS SAYING THE WHOLE TIME?
  • [20:16:09] <bobkatzz> I've been rather AWOL in here for a while - new job hehe
  • [20:16:30] <tarun100> lol, that was a generalization
  • [20:16:59] <bobkatzz> rattubhai: <------ NO NEED TO YELL! (craps lock off please) :)
  • [20:17:21] <tarun100> Yea, wth man
  • [20:17:35] <tarun100> happy thanks giving to you too bob
  • [20:18:02] <bobkatzz> so _av500_ what's up on the ham from these days?
  • [20:18:30] <ds2> arm assembly is neat.... you can do all sorts of stuff and never branch
  • [20:18:49] <rattubhai> ma bad again ... gotta read this conversation at my own time ... thanks for the help guys ... happy thanks giving to all ...
  • [20:18:55] <bobkatzz> hey ds2
  • [20:19:10] <tarun100> Yes, the more I read, the more fascinating it seems
  • [20:19:18] <ds2> hey bobkatzz
  • [20:19:47] <ds2> then you run in the dumb^H^H^H^Hthumb modes
  • [20:19:50] <bobkatzz> hey - well I got my proof of concept done on time and the client is real happy :D
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  • [20:20:00] <ds2> congrats
  • [20:20:02] <bobkatzz> now it's on to Rev2
  • [20:20:05] <ds2> a happy client is a good client :D
  • [20:20:15] <rattubhai> hey tarun u think were good so far? i shut my laptop lid coz i was listening to the 380 lecture
  • [20:20:26] <rattubhai> so i missed a lot of it ...
  • [20:20:48] <bobkatzz> yeah gotta redo the whole thing in AS3 now that I got it working (Flash media server)
  • [20:20:50] <_av500_> bobkatzz: not much ham here these days
  • [20:20:50] <tarun100> Ah, yes. So it seems. We have a lot of learning to do @ ARM architecture
  • [20:21:14] <tarun100> Too bad I sold my text book
  • [20:21:32] <tarun100> Ah well, we always have wiki
  • [20:21:34] <ds2> study the ARM ARM and you shall be enlightened
  • [20:21:58] <tarun100> to be honest ds2, multi core architecture scares me
  • [20:22:08] <tarun100> seems really complicated
  • [20:22:27] <bobkatzz> I won that Icom 2200H and so I've been on all the local nets with that - lots of fun
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  • [20:22:45] <_av500_> won?
  • [20:22:55] <ds2> bobkatzz: what's your qth?
  • [20:23:02] <bobkatzz> next I want to do some packet on 2 meters
  • [20:23:17] <bobkatzz> ds2 - Richmond, VA
  • [20:23:21] <rattubhai> dont worry i have a good grasp at these things ... ill figure it out and let u know .. prolly give u a tutorial ( well i shud give the group a tutorial ) lol ... aite man im out to TO
  • [20:23:26] <rattubhai> cya sunday
  • [20:23:36] <tarun100> peace
  • [20:23:41] <ds2> so a 2M contact with you is out ;)
  • [20:23:42] <_av500_> love
  • [20:24:52] <bobkatzz> _av500_: - yeah the BeagleBrick got it's start as a response to a kit building competition at our club - so after I started with my SR6.3 I decided to marry that to the Beagleboard and the rest is history :P
  • [20:25:19] <bobkatzz> what's your QTH?
  • [20:25:23] <ds2> back to looking at injection molding machines
  • [20:25:27] <ds2> San Jose, CA
  • [20:25:40] <tarun100> Nice
  • [20:25:48] <bobkatzz> oh yeah - well maybe on 40 meters when I get my 5watt amp hooked up
  • [20:25:54] <tarun100> Qualcomm's big in that area
  • [20:25:57] <bobkatzz> or 20 on PSK31
  • [20:26:11] <ds2> donno code
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  • [20:26:28] <tarun100> They hire a whole bunch of students from our university every term
  • [20:26:34] <ds2> don't even know if I have HF privs anyways
  • [20:26:40] <bobkatzz> this repeater I'm sitting on is in SW VA and can reach all the way out to Ohio
  • [20:27:04] <bobkatzz> you a tech?
  • [20:27:29] <bobkatzz> i think 2M is pretty open - will check my band charts
  • [20:27:48] <ds2> I was a no-code tech; not sure if I need to mail in anything to get the HF privs
  • [20:28:15] <bobkatzz> well my students at Rose-Hulman got their rigs build and got 2 BB and 2 SR6.3's talking to eachother - suweet!
  • [20:28:31] <ds2> the last time I looked at it, I needed to do 5wpm + pass written for general
  • [20:28:59] <bobkatzz> na the code thing is faclempt
  • [20:29:10] <bobkatzz> or fahclempt
  • [20:29:27] <bobkatzz> not sure of the spelling on my Yiddish hehe
  • [20:29:30] <ds2> but is that automatic or do I need to request it
  • [20:30:12] <ds2> or do I still need to do the general written
  • [20:30:22] <bobkatzz> only (don't quote me here - check on ARRL site) if you had a previous Novice license - then you have to get a tech before you can get on the air
  • [20:31:11] <bobkatzz> but if you have Tech Element 2 (no code) that's the standard now - but check anyway - should be easy to find out
  • [20:31:37] <bobkatzz> well to get the general bands, yeah , you have to have a genreal ticket
  • [20:31:42] <ds2> i been meaning to check the part 47 stuff... not sure if ARRL is authoritative
  • [20:32:11] <ds2> or is it part 67
  • [20:32:13] <ds2> blah
  • [20:32:13] <bobkatzz> oh it's about as authorative as it gets - they correct the FCC every now and again hehe
  • [20:32:13] <tarun100> Alright, I am off
  • [20:32:20] <tarun100> Thanks ds2/av500 for the help
  • [20:32:22] <ds2> Oh heh
  • [20:32:29] <ds2> have fun taran100
  • [20:32:33] <tarun100> I'll probably be back later with more noob questions
  • [20:32:34] <tarun100> :)
  • [20:32:41] <tarun100> cheers! have a great weekend
  • [20:32:43] <tarun100> bye
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  • [20:33:13] <bobkatzz> yeah I gota go myself - get back to my sharedObject investigations :D
  • [20:33:39] <bobkatzz> I'll check in later this PM - be well all
  • [20:33:51] <_av500_> 73
  • [20:35:44] <bobkatzz> 63 + 5*2
  • [20:35:50] <bobkatzz> :P
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