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  • [03:00:14] <jj__> has someone ported the meamo to beagleboard?
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  • [03:13:35] <jj__> has someone ported the meamo to beagleboard?
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  • [03:30:22] <raster> jj__: maemo5 *IS* for the beagleboard
  • [03:30:32] <raster> the n900 and bb are the same hardware
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  • [03:56:25] <ds2> take a look at Mer
  • [03:56:35] <ds2> the open parts of maemo
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  • [04:06:06] <jj__> but the cpu of n900 is omap3430,which is different from bb.
  • [04:06:15] <raster> they are the same
  • [04:06:40] <raster> its internal ti wierdness that makes them make the same cpu under different model #'s
  • [04:07:13] <jj__> that means the sdk of meamo5 can also be used on bb??
  • [04:07:24] <raster> yes
  • [04:07:41] <raster> 3530 and 3430 are the same cpu sold by 2 different divisions of ti
  • [04:08:01] <raster> 35xx comes from the "consumer electronics" guys and 3430 comes from the "wireless" guys
  • [04:08:18] <raster> its the same arm core, same sgx, same dsp... same everything else inside.
  • [04:08:49] <jj__> i see.thank you!
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  • [04:11:36] <raster> the real big differences will be in peripherals
  • [04:11:49] <raster> ie whats wired up to the chip and what bootloader is on there as a default
  • [04:11:51] <raster> etc. etc.
  • [04:16:37] <jj__> beside n900,do you know an other products that use the meamo5 system?
  • [04:16:52] <jj__> beside n900,do you know any other products that use the meamo5 system?
  • [04:17:37] <raster> none
  • [04:17:51] <raster> its a nokia thing. no one is using maemo except them
  • [04:18:10] <raster> there is mer - that is an ub8ntu based distro like maemo which has adopted some of the open source parts of maemo
  • [04:18:47] <ds2> raster: all of the open parts, IIRC
  • [04:19:40] <raster> ds2: i havent 100% checked. but it does seem to have some. not sure if it has all. but also not 100% sure what is and isnt open in maemo
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  • [04:20:10] <jj__> if i want to port meamo5 and distro to bb,which will be easier?
  • [04:23:14] <ds2> raster: the guys in #maemo would be able to say more
  • [04:23:56] <raster> ds2: indeed
  • [04:24:49] <raster> jj__: maemo should just work on the bb - if nokias kernel is bitchy or userspace watchdogs etc. they may find missing peripherals and complain
  • [04:25:21] <raster> as such i am not sure nokia will let u port it to the bb as u'll be using their closed binaries as well ans that is not an open license. u'll need to strip out any of nokias proprietary stuff
  • [04:25:37] <raster> and by the time u do that... u will be mer (almost)
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  • [05:44:39] <Barts_> hi...can i use a hdmi male to vga male adapter to get video from my BB?
  • [05:49:56] <ds2> No.
  • [06:01:32] <Barts_> only hdmi male to dvi female?
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  • [06:12:53] <ds2> there is no analog signal
  • [06:20:19] <Barts_> gotcha...thanks
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  • [08:42:23] <pro-rsoft> Hm, when I configure my board as 1920x1080 60hz my monitor complains that I should set my display mode to 1920x1080 60hz :S
  • [08:43:02] <pro-rsoft> omapfb.mode=dvi:1920x1080MR-16@60
  • [08:45:30] <pro-rsoft> any ideas?
  • [08:57:03] <cody_> this resolution doesnt work
  • [08:57:07] <cody_> too high
  • [08:57:24] <pro-rsoft> cody_, so whats the max res?
  • [08:57:46] <cody_> 1280x1024 i think
  • [08:58:30] <pro-rsoft> k, thanks
  • [09:02:48] <pro-rsoft> I suppose 24/32bits isnt supported either?
  • [09:03:08] <cody_> dont know
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  • [09:05:17] <pro-rsoft> how great, my minicom terminal connection stopped working
  • [09:05:22] <pro-rsoft> no input from beagle anymore
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  • [09:35:17] <kblin> check the cable?
  • [09:35:41] <kblin> I've seen that happen with a loose cable
  • [09:37:45] <pro-rsoft> s/cable/a few wires quickly stranded together/ ?
  • [09:38:03] <pro-rsoft> naw, I don't need serial connection really
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  • [09:38:16] <pro-rsoft> changing bootargs can happen in boot.scr too
  • [09:40:38] <kblin> no, cable... the connector worked itself loose from the port in my case
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  • [12:14:50] <eFfeM> depends on what you want, guess ffmpeg works and guess motion works too
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  • [12:33:34] <SplasH> I want to read my camera with a c++ program out. It works, but only at 160x120 pixels and my processing is slow. I can only convert 70 frames form rgb to hsv. But the conversation isn't the only thing I want to do. At a higher resolution I have a cpu load of 99%.
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  • [12:44:45] <_av500_> optimze
  • [12:44:49] <_av500_> +i
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  • [12:55:45] <SplasH> _av500_ , was this to my problem?
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  • [13:04:02] <nitin9003> wat basically is the concept behind using a beagle board...nd wat is its scope in projects
  • [13:07:26] * ShadowJK doesnt get the question
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  • [13:12:53] <HammerHeadShark> Hello
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  • [13:15:22] <siji> <HammerHeadShark>,looking dangerous :)
  • [13:15:40] <HammerHeadShark> just a nick, don't worry
  • [13:18:44] <HammerHeadShark> I was wondering if there was someone who knew the omap MMU very well? I am trying to port FreeBSD to the bb. At the moment, I am using the backward compatibility mode. I try to use 64Kb pages, and settb fails. If I use 4kb pages, that works.
  • [13:19:07] <HammerHeadShark> So if someone here was willing to discuss this, I would certainly appreciate it! :D
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  • [13:27:49] <nitin9003> can any one please tell me is there a simulator for omap ,so that i can work on bb without buying one?
  • [13:29:36] <mru> why would you want to do that?
  • [13:31:54] <nitin9003> cause i dont have 149$ !!!
  • [13:35:32] <nitin9003> is there any simulator??
  • [13:36:33] <_av500_> yes, but not for less than 149
  • [13:37:35] <mru> why do you want to develop for hardware you don't have?
  • [13:38:11] <_av500_> prices might fall :)
  • [13:38:29] <nitin9003> just for fun!! want to have a feel of it , and if I like it then i may buy bb!! :)
  • [13:38:51] <mru> how do you feel it if you don't have it?
  • [13:39:07] <_av500_> bb is the cheapest simulator you can get
  • [13:41:54] <nitin9003> then wont it be a cool project to build a open source emulator?
  • [13:42:03] <nitin9003> then wont it be a cool project to build a open source simulator?
  • [13:42:16] <_av500_> what for
  • [13:42:21] <_av500_> huge effort to do so
  • [13:42:43] <_av500_> you can improve qemu to support the a8 fully
  • [13:42:49] <_av500_> but the whole omap3....
  • [13:43:01] <_av500_> it will be done when the omap5 is avaiiable,,,
  • [13:43:26] <_av500_> much cooler to get bb and do stuff for it
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  • [13:46:28] <nitin9003> OK
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  • [14:03:58] <SplasH> Has anybody done image processing on the beagle and can me give some informations about the speed?
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  • [14:20:14] <torus> hi
  • [14:36:55] <ldesnogu> I can't understand people who think a simulator can bring a feeling of what the HW is
  • [14:37:16] <ldesnogu> I guess we should thank the virtualization buzz for that
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  • [14:50:41] <torus> hm - strange. if I compile something with -pg it counts function calls but does not give me any timings... any idea what's missing on my beagle? do I have to configure a timer or so?
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  • [15:22:45] <waaz> hi guys... I wanted to know if there is any video codecs available for BB.. The thing is, I am developing a remote gaming application using BB. I would need a Decoder at the BB side to decode the incoming video from the server. Please suggest me some ideas
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  • [15:27:51] <_av500_> torus: use oprofile
  • [15:28:13] <_av500_> waaz: there are some free sd resolution codecs from ti
  • [15:29:05] <waaz> ok...wat do u mean by SD resolution?
  • [15:29:12] <torus> _av500_, will try..
  • [15:29:41] <torus> _av500_, thanks.
  • [15:29:49] <_av500_> standard def, not hd
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  • [15:31:52] <gcarrier> ... beagle.org is parked!?
  • [15:32:03] <gcarrier> beagleboard.org sorry
  • [15:36:38] <waaz> _av500_: am relatively new to embedded systems. I was just starting my term project... how do I put the codec into BB? or how do I run the codec from BB?
  • [15:39:39] <torus> waaz, it depends what you want to do.. the most performant solution would be to use gstreamer and the texas instruments codecs. If you want something simple just use a free codec like theora.
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  • [15:45:33] <_av500_> waaz: google oe, angstrom, gstreamer, gst_ti, dmai
  • [15:46:31] <waaz> thanks all
  • [15:46:50] <waaz> i'll do a more detailed study and wud come bak if i have some doubts
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  • [15:54:28] <torus> had a nice NEON success story lately btw... optimized a FFT algorithm and got a factor8 speed up just by replacing the single float calculation with neon intrinsics.. inlining helped as well (due to the horrible softfloat-abi)
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  • [16:06:53] <tcpip4000> has anyone experienced OS chrashes when sending or receiving (scp, firefox) big files (>30MB) in the beagle? (I've installed angstrom and ubuntu and happens in both)
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  • [16:18:22] <_av500_> logs?
  • [16:18:39] <Animule> lincoln logs?
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  • [16:50:07] <dcordes> koen, hi. can you add an msm7xxxx machine to narcissus? raphael for example
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  • [17:49:56] <jen2> Yo, your guys domain name registration seems to have lapsed... try "whois beagleboard.org"
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  • [17:50:57] <jen2> protip: in order to browse the site you need to add "75.101.156.174 beagleboard.org" to your /etc/hosts file
  • [17:52:32] <jen2> protip: register a new domain. it's not very reassuring when the day after I decide to buy a beagleboard your domain goes down
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  • [18:57:26] <Beagleroid> hi all! chmod 777 leaves a flash drive write protected
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  • [19:02:19] <eFfeM> some have hw write prot
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  • [19:05:22] <Beagleroid> the falsh drive has no write protection, i can write as root
  • [19:05:56] <eFfeM> file protection bits on the filesystem? mounted as ro ?
  • [19:06:23] <Beagleroid> the drive is being mounted as wp if i log on as normal user (not root)
  • [19:06:47] <Beagleroid> if i switch to root, i can write
  • [19:09:08] <Beagleroid> i'm talking of Angstrom on BB
  • [19:09:31] <Beagleroid> if logged on as non-root, all external drives are write protected
  • [19:11:43] <eFfeM> hm not really an idea atm
  • [19:12:14] <Beagleroid> a bit paranoid, no?
  • [19:12:42] <Beagleroid> i saw such a strange behavior with other linux distros
  • [19:13:36] <Beagleroid> it makes the file manager useless
  • [19:14:17] <Beagleroid> codelite cannot create a workspace on such a drive
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  • [20:34:02] <kblin> evening folks
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  • [20:39:15] <kblin> I've got a binary that's pretty large, and I'm trying to figure out what's causing that. any idea where to start looking? I've never done anything like that so far :)
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  • [20:51:58] <adj> kblin: what's wrong with that? I have several binaries which are HUGE :)
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  • [20:52:47] <kblin> adj: on the beagle, I don't mind as such.. but when I'm building for ARM anyway, I might as well target systems with less memory and flash space
  • [20:52:56] <adj> kblin: that is, I think you should clarify your issue a bit more than just a bit
  • [20:53:30] <adj> ah, so your compiler is producing insane large binaries?
  • [20:54:52] <kblin> yeah, I'm pretty sure the application (or it's build system) is to blame, but I'd like to figure out what exactly is causing the bloat
  • [20:55:21] <kblin> some versions back it was a couple of hundred kB, now it's 5 megs
  • [20:56:32] <adj> someone dropped off optimization flags and added debug data?
  • [20:56:52] <adj> how about performance, has it been affected?
  • [20:58:35] <kblin> I'm thinking there's some object files that are linked in a couple of times
  • [20:58:42] <kblin> the makefiles are a mess :)
  • [20:59:40] <adj> aren't they always? I hate those autohell makefiles every time I need to read those
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  • [21:00:51] <kblin> it's not that bad a case of auto*
  • [21:01:16] <kblin> it's just that there's a lot of stuff in there... I'm talking about Samba
  • [21:02:00] <adj> I haven't ever checked samba sources or makefiles but I'll bet that it will keep you dancing around
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  • [22:11:17] <wary> hello, what happened to the beagleboard.org domain? it says its parked?!?
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  • [22:55:25] <djlewis> wazzupp?
  • [22:56:18] <djlewis> so beagleboard.org failed topay a parking ticket and got towed....?
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