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  • [00:09:16] <ds2> hmmm
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  • [00:12:06] <prpplague> ds2: i second that
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  • [00:14:46] <Beagle4> Anyone has some clue about beagleboard+angstrom-stable+lirc ?
  • [00:16:44] <Beagle4> angstrom-stable=kernel 2.6.29, lirc modules 2.6.28.
  • [00:21:10] <ds2> prpplague: how goes?
  • [00:21:18] <prpplague> ds2: slowly
  • [00:21:38] <prpplague> ds2: still having mmc troubles, and i think i have a problem with the 32khz xtal
  • [00:21:57] <ds2> prpplague: why do you suspect that?
  • [00:24:40] <prpplague> ds2: during the u-boot startup, it uses the 32khz to count the number of ticks to determine the core clock rate
  • [00:24:58] <prpplague> ds2: the counted number of ticks is jumping all over the place
  • [00:25:21] <prpplague> ds2: but yet the uart divisor is rock solid for the baud rate
  • [00:25:36] <prpplague> ds2: which means that the hclk is solid, and the 32khz is incorrect
  • [00:25:44] <ds2> prpplague: ah so it boots
  • [00:26:48] <prpplague> ds2: yea the system boots if i had code the core clock at 26mhz
  • [00:27:36] <ds2> prpplague: have you eliminated one of the problems the early B series had?
  • [00:28:24] <prpplague> ds2: what problem is that?
  • [00:29:06] <ds2> prpplague: it relates to a lockup due to a noise issue on the 32KHz line, IIRC
  • [00:29:22] <prpplague> ds2: hmm
  • [00:29:27] <prpplague> ds2: let me google that
  • [00:31:46] <prpplague> ds2: ahh interesting
  • [00:31:50] <prpplague> ds2: thanks for the pointer
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  • [00:34:34] <prpplague> ds2: that does sound like the problem
  • [00:34:58] <ds2> prpplague: the fix is a cap
  • [00:35:02] <ds2> easy enough to try
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  • [00:35:51] <prpplague> ds2: gotta check the schematic and see if i have something similiar
  • [00:37:01] <ds2> prpplague: does the board use a 4030 or equiv?
  • [00:37:29] <prpplague> ds2: no
  • [00:37:38] <prpplague> ds2: but it does have a matching cap
  • [00:38:42] * prpplague removes cap for testing
  • [00:40:15] <ds2> I see.
  • [00:40:45] <ds2> is it a 0201 sized part?
  • [00:43:47] <prpplague> ds2: 0402
  • [00:44:19] <prpplague> ds2: that was it!
  • [00:44:27] * prpplague owes ds2 a beer!
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  • [00:46:03] <ds2> :D
  • [00:47:21] <prpplague> ds2: the only thing remaining on this board is the mmc/sd booting
  • [00:47:45] <ds2> prpplague: why SD/MMC boot?
  • [00:48:07] <prpplague> ds2: sd/mmc isn't working
  • [00:48:25] <prpplague> ds2: gotta do some logic probes tomorrow to see whats going on
  • [00:48:29] <ds2> prpplague: let me ask a diff. question - what are you referring to when you say booting?
  • [00:48:50] <ds2> root on MMC or Internal ROM loading MLO loading U-boot loading uImage?
  • [00:48:57] <prpplague> ds2: having the system read the MLO file from the sd card
  • [00:50:14] <ds2> prpplague: is this a 8bit, 1bit, or 4 bit slot?
  • [00:50:35] <prpplague> ds2: same exact config as on the beagle
  • [00:51:24] <ds2> prpplague: what about power?
  • [00:51:32] <prpplague> ds2: powers good
  • [00:51:45] <ds2> prpplague: no, power for the SD slot... how is that wired up
  • [00:52:08] <prpplague> ds2: same way the beagle is
  • [00:52:19] <ds2> prpplague: impossible :)
  • [00:52:27] <prpplague> ds2: hehe
  • [00:52:55] <ds2> prpplague: the Beagle uses the TWL4030 for a variable voltage power supply. You said you don't use the 4030, Therefore, you are self inconsistant.
  • [00:53:56] <prpplague> ds2: the power is wired up consistant with the way the beagle is done
  • [00:54:29] <ds2> prpplague: I don't see how that is possible if you don't have the 4030
  • [00:54:56] <prpplague> ds2: it has a "similar" part
  • [00:54:58] <ds2> in fact, I wonder if the N series devices can boot from SD
  • [00:55:23] <ds2> prpplague: that could be an issue. the internal ROM knows magic about the 4030
  • [00:56:11] <prpplague> ds2: that is possible, the TI datasheet seem to indicate that it wasn't specific to the 4030 though
  • [00:56:59] <ds2> prpplague: datasheet... heheh.
  • [00:57:06] <prpplague> indeed
  • [00:58:07] <ds2> yipeeeeeee BeagleLCD + android + touchscreen
  • [00:58:10] * ds2 does the happy dance
  • [00:59:26] <prpplague> ds2: ??
  • [01:01:07] <ds2> prpplague: just got the touchscreen working with Android
  • [01:01:15] <prpplague> ds2: dandy
  • [01:01:24] <prpplague> ds2: which lcd are you using? the PSP ?
  • [01:02:22] <ds2> prpplague: no, another one of the same size and resolution.
  • [01:02:30] <ds2> the PSP LCD is troublesome
  • [01:02:53] <ds2> this one puts the TS and the LCD on the same FPC
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  • [01:04:19] <prpplague> ds2: ahh thats dandy
  • [01:04:30] <prpplague> ds2: want kind of price range?
  • [01:05:25] <ds2> prpplague: donno... I didn't get involved in the purchasing end
  • [01:05:31] <prpplague> ahh
  • [01:05:34] <ds2> I am just the hw designer
  • [01:07:08] <prpplague> ds2: i hope you are getting paid, hehe
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  • [02:05:32] <djlewis> gm all
  • [02:06:47] <ds2> gm djlewis
  • [02:07:14] <djlewis> ds2: hello, I heard about your success earlier :)
  • [02:13:08] <ds2> djlewis: got a minor locale problem with the userland
  • [02:18:34] <djlewis> ds2: hm?
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  • [02:18:58] <ds2> djlewis: android came up in chinese ;)
  • [02:19:25] <djlewis> hehee, good luck with that
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  • [02:52:18] <prpplague> ho ho hum
  • [02:57:21] <djlewis> prpplague: hang in there, you almost have it ;)
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  • [03:11:19] <ds2> PRODUCT_LOCALES := en_US
  • [03:11:22] <ds2> blah
  • [03:11:26] <djlewis> cool
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  • [03:57:52] <prpplague> djlewis yea since this my first omap3 bringup it has a learning curve, the next 3 boards should move along alot quicker
  • [03:58:36] <djlewis> prpplague: you have a omap3 in the oven too?
  • [03:59:40] <kblin> gnah
  • [04:00:22] <kblin> ehci died on me again right before my presentation
  • [04:26:06] <prpplague> djlewis not for myself, i do board bringups for other companies
  • [04:26:20] <prpplague> djlewis just finishing up with a omap3525 board this week
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  • [04:48:03] <ds2> Mmmmm 4AA powered BeagleLCD
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  • [04:49:20] <djlewis> ds2: i'd like to see it sometime :)
  • [04:50:09] <djlewis> gn all...
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  • [05:45:02] <niral> hi guys
  • [05:45:04] <niral> ?
  • [05:50:29] <niral> whaat audio driver used by the beagle?
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  • [06:00:16] <_dash__> Hi all
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  • [06:01:39] <niral> hi
  • [06:01:56] <niral> any idea what are the audio driver used by the beagle?
  • [06:03:47] <ds2> bark.c
  • [06:04:21] <Christos_N|Work> niral: ALSA System on Chip, TWL4030 codec
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  • [06:06:09] <niral> is it using I2S?
  • [06:06:57] <Christos_N|Work> yes
  • [06:07:16] <Christos_N|Work> through a McBSP port
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  • [06:09:27] <niral> does it support ASOC interface and DAPM?
  • [06:09:29] <niral> also?
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  • [06:12:39] <niral> ya got it it is having all the support
  • [06:12:44] <niral> thx
  • [06:12:57] <niral> thx Christos_N|Work
  • [06:13:22] <Christos_N|Work> ALSA System on Chip ->is-> ASoC
  • [06:14:29] <niral> ya
  • [06:15:41] <niral> DAPM - Dynamic Audio Power Management ?
  • [06:16:06] <niral> it is ther in kernel audio driver ?
  • [06:16:32] <Christos_N|Work> yes
  • [06:16:53] <niral> ok
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  • [06:17:38] <niral> but we dont have any audio driver folder in driver directory in kernel?
  • [06:18:52] <Christos_N|Work> kernel sourcetree /sound/soc/codecs
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  • [06:23:24] <niral> Dynamic Audio Power Management is a hardware or it will controll power using software code?
  • [06:27:07] <niral> i m sorry if i m worng ...i am very new to it..
  • [06:29:30] <Christos_N|Work> there is hardware for pm and the ASOC framework is responding on suspend/resume
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  • [06:30:21] <Christos_N|Work> you need to read the codec driver sources to understand the way it is utilized if that is what you need
  • [06:30:46] <ds2> 009
  • [06:31:45] <niral> ya i will do that
  • [06:32:05] <niral> folder is /sound/soc/codecs only ...right?
  • [06:32:11] <niral> i will start reading it....
  • [06:32:45] <niral> thx Christos_N|Work
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  • [06:39:17] <PremkiranM> Can someone suggest me UVC compliant webcams for Beagleboard?
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  • [06:41:22] <PremkiranM> I am trying to view self video and would need a webcam which is UVC compliant.
  • [06:45:23] <tasslehoff> I'm running xubuntu-desktop atm, and it's not awfully snappy, but is ubuntu-desktop much worse? Anyone tried it? I feel more at home in gnome (hey, it rhymes)
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  • [06:55:16] <bbbb> I have BB Rev C3.0 board. How to know the package of OMAP application processor CBC / CBB / CUS ? can anyone tell me .. ?
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  • [07:11:28] <kirma> what's the peak DDR memory transfer rate on OMAP3 running at 600 MHz CPU clock? 1.6 GB/s? 3.2 GB/s?
  • [07:16:12] <av500> kirma: at what DDR speed?
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  • [07:16:40] <av500> the ddr does not run at 600mhz...
  • [07:16:49] <kirma> well, if I understood right, OMAP3/Cortex-A8 have fixed 1/3 clock ratio for memory
  • [07:16:56] <av500> nope
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  • [07:17:30] <PremkiranM> Can someone suggest me UVC compliant webcams for Beagleboard?
  • [07:17:30] <kirma> or that is the highest possible frequency?
  • [07:18:03] <PremkiranM> Apart from Logitech ones I want to find out some low cost ones less than 50$ maybe
  • [07:19:34] <kirma> I'm trying to calculate memory bandwidth limitations for some algorithms on Nokia N900... assumptions assumptions
  • [07:21:50] <av500> mem speed is around 166mhz or so
  • [07:22:29] <kirma> reference?
  • [07:22:34] <av500> 166mhz * 2(ddr) * 32bit
  • [07:22:42] <av500> kirma: my omap3 design here :-)
  • [07:22:49] <av500> my->our
  • [07:23:34] <av500> so that would yield a maximum of 1.3GB/s...
  • [07:23:56] <av500> now, you'll never reach that, maybe 70% or so...
  • [07:24:08] <kirma> I remember several documents speaking about 1/3 clock ratio being at least an possibility
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  • [07:24:19] <av500> kirma: ???
  • [07:24:20] <kirma> av500: not even with agressive and precise prefetching?
  • [07:24:49] <av500> experience with ti shows that you dont reach more than 70% of the theoretical maximum
  • [07:25:20] <bbbb> I have BB Rev C3.0 board. How to know the package of OMAP application processor CBC / CBB / CUS ? can anyone tell me .. ?
  • [07:25:25] <av500> CBB
  • [07:25:41] <av500> its in the SRM somewhere...
  • [07:25:58] <kirma> av500: that DDR memory interface could run at 200 MHz when Cortex-A8 core is running at 600 MHz
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  • [07:26:27] <av500> maybe if you find the right memory chip that supports that too....
  • [07:26:46] <av500> kirma: but what fixed ratio, the omap3 can run from 125 to 600mhz...
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  • [07:28:13] <ds2> android works so much better with a TS
  • [07:28:27] <av500> ds2: actually, it does not need one :-)
  • [07:28:42] <ds2> av500: didn't say need, it just works better with one
  • [07:28:48] <av500> ds2: right :-)
  • [07:28:53] <kirma> av500: well. I guess I have to really get the device before I can be certain how it does. :)
  • [07:28:58] <av500> but I was surprised how totally button controllable it is.
  • [07:29:13] <ds2> av500: I been running it with a keyboard/mouse but now I have a ts
  • [07:29:42] <av500> kirma: my hw guy tells me the omap3 cannot do more than 166mhz...
  • [07:30:50] <kirma> hmm.
  • [07:30:55] <av500> kirma: what are u after exactly?
  • [07:31:11] <bbbb> av500: it is not mentioned in SRM
  • [07:33:32] <bbbb> av500: I have Rev C3.0 SRM, downloaded from http://beagleboard.org/
  • [07:34:18] <kirma> av500: not anything particularly specific. I'm mostly trying to calculate memory bandwidth requirements of relatively deternimistic, but largely RAM-bandwidth bound algorithms and working set sizes the memory subsystem could even theoretically support at reasonable framerate
  • [07:34:48] <av500> bbbb: this one says cbb too http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard
  • [07:35:02] <av500> kirma: I see
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  • [07:37:32] <kirma> av500: but beagleboard is clocked at 500 MHz by default? that'd put 1/3 rate at 166 MHz
  • [07:37:35] <kirma> just wondering.
  • [07:37:53] <av500> kirma: I know of no fixed ratio
  • [07:37:55] <kirma> have to wait for the actual phone to arrive to really see.
  • [07:38:20] <av500> kirma: you can also run it at 550, the 166mhz do no change...
  • [07:38:31] <kirma> mmh
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  • [09:13:29] <dev001> hi
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  • [09:16:30] <bjdooks> yay
  • [09:16:31] <bjdooks> Loading u-boot.bin from mmc
  • [09:16:47] <jdog_> nice
  • [09:16:52] <bjdooks> at least some win this morning
  • [09:17:04] <gaurang> i have usb to ethernet adpator and detect as usb0
  • [09:17:09] <PremkiranM> Can someone suggest me UVC compliant webcams for Beagleboard?
  • [09:17:58] <gaurang> but i do not ping in my local network
  • [09:18:20] <gaurang> how to access it or ping it?
  • [09:18:45] <gaurang> any setup required for that
  • [09:19:20] <bjdooks> right, time to go and find oscilloscope
  • [09:19:37] <ThomasEgi> gaurang, afaik only the usual stuff. like asign an ip address (or let dhcp do that). just like youwould do with any other network adapter
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  • [09:24:30] <_koen_1> bjdooks: that printf is 3.5k well spent in x-load :)
  • [09:26:06] <tasslehoff> I want to build my own application on top of the OMAP linux kernel. I guess this means in some way creating my own distribution. Is OpenEmbedded a good choice for this?
  • [09:27:42] <bjdooks> _koen_1: hmm, our loader's `tiny_printf` clocks in at 288 bytes
  • [09:28:52] <bjdooks> hmm, no, that's the wrong section, it is 512 with all the necessary data
  • [09:29:06] <gaurang> no
  • [09:29:42] <_koen_1> bjdooks: the comment in x-load says that the serial printf takes 3.5k
  • [09:29:47] <gaurang> i setup ip address and i have run 'ifconfig' command
  • [09:29:53] <bjdooks> right, time to call on the mighty power of the TDS220
  • [09:30:25] <gaurang> and display like that "usb0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 32:E0:2A:F0:31:F5 inet addr:192.168.0.202 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)"
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  • [09:31:10] <bjdooks> ah, we have a puts and putc seperately, we get 4KiB loaded from the front of the nand, which then pulls it up to 16KiB from the rest of the first sector, the initial code has puts, serial output, and basic nand code... the next 12 has tiny_printf, jffs2 read, and an image validity check
  • [09:32:32] <julemore> I am tryng to output the stream of my webcam to an URL... is it more cpu consuming to encode from RAW to MP4 than from MJPEG to MP4? is the difference that great?
  • [09:35:38] <XorA> raw -> mp4 is just a compress, mjepg -> mp4 is a decompress/compress
  • [09:36:56] <raster> XorA: u can shortcut some of the decompress and compress in pure theory.
  • [09:36:58] <raster> :)
  • [09:37:18] <XorA> raster: I know, some work in this field would be awesome :-)
  • [09:37:54] * raster rustles up mru
  • [09:38:27] <_koen_1> rasterman!
  • [09:38:28] <raster> at least mjepg -> mpeg2 i am 100% sure u can shortcut some of it - I frames absolutely
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  • [09:38:40] <raster> P and B frames are more work
  • [09:38:44] <raster> _koen_: yow
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  • [09:39:17] <raster> mpeg4 is something i'd need to heck into
  • [09:39:28] <niral> hi guys
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  • [09:40:38] <niral> what ever regulattor drivers we have in kernel does it has support for LDO/
  • [09:40:40] <niral> ?
  • [09:42:26] <XorA> yo _koen_
  • [09:42:48] <av500> raster: compressed domain transcoding is always nice in theory
  • [09:43:02] <raster> av500: bing
  • [09:43:13] <av500> bong
  • [09:43:19] <raster> XorA: boo
  • [09:43:27] <raster> av500: as i said.. in "theory" :)
  • [09:43:34] <raster> pure theory
  • [09:46:10] <mru> morning raster
  • [09:46:28] <raster> mru: yo![ i see i have summoned ye from your bottle
  • [09:46:40] <mru> transcoding without decode/encode doesn't work in practice
  • [09:47:01] <raster> do i get 3 wishes?
  • [09:47:19] <av500> raster: get in line
  • [09:47:21] <raster> hahahahah
  • [09:47:59] <raster> mru: i wouldnt want to be writing the code for compressed domain transcode. but it is in theory possible between similar enough codecs
  • [09:48:14] <raster> not sure anyone is insane enough to do it... maybe except you
  • [09:48:15] <raster> :)
  • [09:48:19] <av500> i which case you dont bother transcoding
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  • [09:49:02] <raster> av500: well mjpeg -> mpeg2 or mpeg2 -> mjpeg is not too challenging. in the scheme of compressed domain transcoding
  • [09:50:23] <_koen_> hey XorA
  • [09:50:51] <raster> _koen_: haqve you played with an omap4 yet?
  • [09:51:07] <_koen_> raster: compressed domain transcoding is something you let graduate student play with
  • [09:51:24] <_koen_> raster: not yet, no silicon has appeared on my desk :)
  • [09:52:17] <mru> raster: if codecs are similar enough to do compressed-domain transcoding, said transcoding is pointless in the first place
  • [09:52:48] <raster> _koen_: hmmm interesting. it seems it has appeared on someones desk... as i am getting q's about it. :)
  • [09:53:09] * mru wants one too...
  • [09:53:22] <raster> mru: possibly. tho mjpeg <-> mpeg2 is worht it
  • [09:53:42] <raster> if from jpeg -> mpeg2 u dont just shufle it all into i frames and actually generate some p and b frames
  • [09:53:56] <raster> u'd probably need to partially decompress
  • [09:53:58] <raster> anyway
  • [09:54:22] <raster> its nice and evil. good to keep someone busy for a few decades
  • [09:55:14] <bjdooks> hmm, my MOSI is pulling low but refuses to pull high
  • [09:55:40] <bjdooks> the clock is definetly being driven properly
  • [09:55:58] * raster pulls left
  • [09:59:14] <mru> raster: jpeg to mpeg2 needs a full decompress for motion search
  • [09:59:32] <av500> I-only? :)
  • [09:59:40] <mru> what's the point in that?
  • [09:59:56] <av500> academic :)
  • [10:00:04] <av500> gotta run and catch a train...
  • [10:00:35] <raster> mru: u can avoid the motion vectors...
  • [10:00:47] <mru> huh?
  • [10:00:53] <raster> it'll be beter than i-only and mjpeg original in compression, but wont be as good as a proper mpg2
  • [10:01:10] <mru> oh, zero motion vectors on every block
  • [10:01:15] <raster> yeah
  • [10:01:15] <mru> retarded
  • [10:01:29] <mru> well, you still need to decompress
  • [10:01:35] <mru> to get the differences
  • [10:02:45] <raster> hmm well u only :have" to huffman decode and get the dct's
  • [10:02:55] <raster> from the dct u can go without.
  • [10:03:34] <raster> again - its just academic. pure theory.
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  • [10:03:41] <raster> wouldnt want to actually do this
  • [10:03:45] <mru> residuals are in the spatial domain, not frequency
  • [10:03:49] <mru> you must do a full decode
  • [10:03:57] <raster> hmm
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  • [10:04:04] <raster> good point
  • [10:04:08] <raster> bugger.
  • [10:04:13] <mru> unless you're doing dc-only...
  • [10:04:14] <raster> well.. almost
  • [10:04:18] <raster> u can avoid the i frames tho
  • [10:04:22] <mru> no
  • [10:04:27] <raster> thats something
  • [10:04:44] <raster> oh wait - u're right.
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  • [10:04:45] <mru> you need to decode them as reference for p/b-frames
  • [10:04:53] <raster> well u decode
  • [10:04:55] <raster> u can avoid encode
  • [10:05:03] <raster> so thats something.
  • [10:05:09] <raster> :)
  • [10:05:12] <mru> hardly worth the complexity
  • [10:05:24] <mru> and besides, the result will suck anyway
  • [10:05:24] <raster> of course not
  • [10:05:33] <raster> but... in pure theory... :)
  • [10:05:51] <raster> (thus why i used "pure theory" as opposed to saying it was a great idea :))
  • [10:06:20] <julemore> my webcam can output in raw, YUY, and MJPEG, my objective is to send that stream over the internet... in terms of cpu consuming, what output format from my webcam may I use? raw, yuy or mjpeg? note: i will later use ffmpeg for encoding the outputed format
  • [10:06:38] <raster> internet format
  • [10:06:48] * raster just had to say that
  • [10:07:04] <raster> use raw yuv
  • [10:07:10] <raster> and keep the resolution sane
  • [10:07:21] <julemore> ??? why? isnt MJPEG more useful?
  • [10:07:38] <raster> unless u want to stream mjpeg to the interboobs
  • [10:07:45] <raster> it is possible.
  • [10:07:50] <raster> it will chew through bandwidth though
  • [10:07:53] <julemore> I guess MJPEG to MPEG is less than raw to MPWG right?
  • [10:08:04] <raster> no
  • [10:08:17] <raster> see our above theoretical discussion
  • [10:08:30] <raster> in theory - pure theory u can do some compressed domain transcoding
  • [10:08:31] <julemore> yes I dont want to stream MJPEG cause its heavy load.... I want to encode from MJPEG to any internet format
  • [10:08:34] <raster> no software actually oes it
  • [10:08:38] <raster> its totally insane to do
  • [10:08:50] <raster> its a purely academic mental exercise to think about it
  • [10:09:26] * raster goes wow. someone is using his "internet format" line. raster wonders if it will catch on
  • [10:09:36] <raster> hey send me that document in internet format!
  • [10:09:53] <raster> what language did you code that app in? internet format
  • [10:10:09] <raster> so much potential...
  • [10:11:17] * raster wonders if region clip should be done pre or post scale. raster thinks pres scale is da bomb
  • [10:11:18] <bjdooks> this is weird, I get one nice square pulse, then the rest look like it is running in some form of open drain mode against the pull-ups on the add-on card
  • [10:11:48] <raster> this ... is ... sparta!
  • [10:13:03] <julemore> ok so.. If i am using in my BB ffmepg at 320x120 decoding from raw(webcam) to mp4 and I get only fps=15 and not 30... thats not because of the raw format but another thing?
  • [10:14:12] <raster> is raw rgb?
  • [10:14:13] <raster> or yuv?
  • [10:14:15] <bjdooks> raster: not helpful
  • [10:14:37] <raster> bjdooks: i know :) but when have you known me to be helpful?
  • [10:14:59] <raster> julemore: u'll find you get better bandwidth and encoding speed with yuv
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  • [10:15:24] <raster> as nothngin needs to do rgb->yuv in the encoder, that step is an easy skip for an encoder
  • [10:16:06] <julemore> raster.. ok and what should be my "internet outoput format"? rps?mp4?
  • [10:16:14] <julemore> H263?
  • [10:17:17] <raster> pick your poison
  • [10:17:39] <raster> mpeg4 is more "all the rage" these days
  • [10:17:47] <mru> which mpeg4?
  • [10:18:32] <julemore> raser yeah perhaps.. but.. I want bitrate wise and cpu overhead wise
  • [10:18:53] <julemore> are u telling that mp4 is the best choice? what abut h264? or h263?
  • [10:19:28] <raster> mru: 264 i'd say
  • [10:19:44] <raster> 263 != mpeg4
  • [10:19:58] <raster> i have never really bothered
  • [10:20:07] <julemore> ???? mpeg4!=264?
  • [10:20:08] <raster> 263 is a descendant of mpeg1/2
  • [10:20:19] <raster> no h263 is not mpeg4
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  • [10:20:27] <julemore> neither 264
  • [10:20:31] <raster> 264 is
  • [10:20:34] <raster> well last i chcked
  • [10:20:38] <julemore> ????
  • [10:21:06] <julemore> so if you ffmpeg oout.mp4 <-- that will be H264?
  • [10:21:09] <julemore> hmmmmmm
  • [10:21:23] <_koen_> mpeg4 asp or mpeg4 avc?
  • [10:21:50] <mru> h.263 ~= mpeg4 asp
  • [10:21:54] <mru> h.264 == mpeg4 avc
  • [10:21:55] <raster> "internet format"!
  • [10:22:47] <julemore> ok so the best choice is to conf the output format of the webcam to YUY and the encode that YUY into H264?
  • [10:23:02] <raster> yes
  • [10:23:06] <raster> thats what i said
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  • [10:23:11] <raster> yuv then choose your codec
  • [10:23:15] <raster> it wont make much of a diff
  • [10:23:22] <raster> and hell -u'll find out soon enough
  • [10:24:06] <julemore> grrr. well the real problem is that I dont get fps>15 with 320x120 .. perhaps it is a web cam setting problem
  • [10:24:15] <julemore> when usinf ffmepeg
  • [10:24:50] <mru> the beagle should have no trouble handling that resolution
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  • [10:27:33] <julemore> hmmm ok
  • [10:29:22] <tasslehoff> I'm gonna try to make my own distro. Would you recommend openembedded or buildroot (or something else)?
  • [10:29:48] <julemore> oe
  • [10:32:15] <_koen_> tasslehoff: you know what you're getting yourself into, making your own distro?
  • [10:32:32] <_koen_> (by asking what to use, the answer is: no)
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  • [10:36:33] <tasslehoff> _koen_: I thought I had an idea, but maybe I don't :)
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  • [10:47:09] <tasslehoff> _koen_: I want to end up with my own application running a full screen GUI. I figured I could use OE to build a rootFS with the kernel and the applications I need, and then figure out how to add my own applications.
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  • [10:48:19] <tasslehoff> sorry for any wrong terminology, but I am just getting started with embedded linux
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  • [10:51:09] <tasslehoff> _koen_: do you think looking into OE is not the best choice for my task?
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  • [10:55:59] <_koen_> tasslehoff: OE is the best choice, but I wouldn't advise doing your own distro
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  • [11:00:11] <tasslehoff> _koen_: ah, so I'm probably messing up the terminology here.
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  • [11:00:27] <Crofton|work> tasslehoff, there are more people here and in #oe that can help you with oe :)
  • [11:00:45] <Crofton|work> tasslehoff, I assume you want some form of custom image for your beagle
  • [11:01:01] <tasslehoff> Crofton|work: thanks, that's correct
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  • [11:06:25] <bjdooks> http://www.fluff.org/ben/pics/beagle-spi1.jpg is the data-out from the system
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  • [11:22:29] <bbbb> Can anyone tell me What is the revision number of Cortex-A8 that is used in OMAP3530 ES3.0 ( which is used in BB Rev C3.0) ?
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  • [11:22:53] <mru> bbbb: r1p3
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  • [11:24:42] <bbbb> mru: There is no TRM available at http://infocenter.arm.com/help/index.jsp for r1p3. Could you please give me the link ?
  • [11:35:04] <mru> there are no significant differences between the revisions
  • [11:35:30] <Crofton|work> bjdooks, what is that picture showing?
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  • [11:41:42] <bbbb> mru: Is it so?
  • [11:42:44] <bbbb> mru: r1p1 ~= r1p3 ?
  • [11:44:46] <bjdooks> Crofton|work: the MOSI line
  • [11:45:23] <Crofton|work> is something wrong? the exp increase looks funny, but it might be floating
  • [11:45:49] <bjdooks> the slave board has a 4.7K pup to VCCio
  • [11:47:33] <Crofton|work> http://www.flickr.com/photos/32615155@N00/3857143522/
  • [11:47:47] <Crofton|work> sorry about the windows
  • [11:48:56] <bjdooks> ah, looks like it releases MOSI after sending 8bits
  • [11:49:13] <bjdooks> and snap, i've got an intronix too
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  • [11:49:32] <Crofton|work> :)
  • [11:49:39] <bjdooks> I might have to add a header tap to allow me to get these signals off to it after lunch
  • [11:49:58] <Crofton|work> I get all these via test points on an fpga
  • [11:50:33] <bjdooks> right, now i've got ext-trig wired up
  • [11:50:40] <bjdooks> first 8bits transmitted look ok
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  • [11:51:04] <bjdooks> 0x0c, which is register-read command for 2 bytes from the ID register
  • [11:51:13] <tasslehoff> _koen_: am I right that following http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom is a good start? then I can figure out how to add my own application later?
  • [11:51:29] <Crofton|work> tasslehoff, yes
  • [11:51:48] <Crofton|work> you might also look at OE getting started, there are build machien distro notes there that are helpful
  • [11:52:39] <tasslehoff> Crofton|work: I've already set up OE on my Ubuntu host. I'll ask any further OE questions in #oe. Thanks.
  • [11:52:43] <bjdooks> hmm, nothing out from this chip
  • [11:54:01] <bjdooks> my tummy says it is almost lunchtime, and mr clock agrees
  • [11:54:16] <bjdooks> logic analyser time after lunch
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  • [13:07:39] <Crofton> does ccs4 run on linunx?
  • [13:07:45] <Crofton> er linux
  • [13:08:22] <mru> I've heard talk of a version running on linux, don't remember which number it had
  • [13:11:43] <Crofton> I just got an email spam about it
  • [13:12:02] <Crofton> I suppose I should read the link
  • [13:12:52] <Crofton> looks windows only
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  • [13:13:20] <mru> someone said they were going to make an eclipse-based version for linux
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  • [13:13:31] <bobkatzz> gm all
  • [13:13:49] <bobkatzz> good UGT koen :)
  • [13:15:03] <bobkatzz> anyone know whether the wireless or USB photoframe have a refreshrate that would be workable as a screen for the BB?
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  • [13:16:06] <bobkatzz> pandigital has one that is $99 and has touchscreen capabilities - was thinking of trying that
  • [13:16:37] <bobkatzz> at BJ's no less - hehe - but they didn't have it in the store here - maybe only online
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  • [13:17:32] <bobkatzz> ok - just logging those questions - bbl
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  • [15:01:23] <_av500_> ccs4 is eclipse and thus also linux
  • [15:01:49] <_av500_> i dunno if they will also port stuff like jtag drivers...
  • [15:10:52] <_av500_> koen: ??
  • [15:10:52] <_av500_> mru: ^^^
  • [15:10:52] <mru> eclipse gives me the shivers
  • [15:10:52] <florian> :-)
  • [15:10:52] <mru> thankfully my code is bugfree so I don't need that stuff
  • [15:10:52] <florian> hehe
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  • [15:10:52] <florian> hi prpplague^2
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  • [15:10:52] <prpplague> florian: greetings
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  • [15:15:44] <prpplague> jkridner|work: you around today?
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  • [15:15:49] <jkridner|work> i am.
  • [16:05:17] <prpplague> jkridner|work: quick question, the OMAP3525 supports sd/mmc booting in the exact same manner as the OMAP3530, correct?
  • [16:05:17] <jkridner|work> correct.
  • [16:05:18] <prpplague> jkridner|work: btw, have a nice holiday?
  • [16:05:18] <mru> they're probably the same silicon
  • [16:05:18] <jkridner|work> it was fantastic, other than getting sick.
  • [16:05:18] <_koen_> prpplague: note that your board can have poked at the sysbook pins
  • [16:05:18] <mru> jkridner|work: bit of a contradiction there...
  • [16:05:19] <jkridner|work> it was fantastic and *then* I got sick.
  • [16:05:19] <prpplague> jkridner|work: where did you go?
  • [16:05:19] <prpplague> _koen_: you mean the sysboot pins?
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  • [16:05:19] <_koen_> prpplague, yes those ones
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  • [16:05:19] <mru> I'm afraid I caught a bit of a cold over the weekend...
  • [16:05:19] <prpplague> _koen_: yea already done the checks on that
  • [16:05:19] <prpplague> _koen_: the gpio values appear to be correct
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  • [16:05:19] <_koen_> prpplague: I have heard people cursing at boards that lacked proper pullup/pulldown resistors on those pins
  • [16:05:19] <mru> random boot sequence, nice
  • [16:05:19] <prpplague> _koen_: yea, from what i can tell, the configuration is identical to the beagle
  • [16:05:19] <prpplague> _koen_: i suspect i have a hardware issue
  • [16:05:19] <prpplague> _koen_: hooking up the logic analyzer today
  • [16:05:19] <prpplague> jkridner|work: doghouse is going out for SLS's today, should have them back on friday
  • [16:05:19] <jkridner|work> sweet.
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  • [16:05:19] <prpplague> jkridner|work: the zippy boards should be available on thursday for order
  • [16:05:19] <prpplague> jkridner|work: the breeder board should be available by the second week in october
  • [16:05:19] <prpplague> jkridner|work: and showdog should be available the last week of october
  • [16:05:19] <jkridner|work> will there be any at ESC Boston next week?
  • [16:05:19] <prpplague> jkridner|work: good question, i don't know anyone going, do we need to send you some zippy boards?
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  • [16:05:19] <prpplague> (or someone else?)
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  • [16:05:19] <prpplague> jkridner|work: rusty and i are techies, not so good on the marketing end of things
  • [16:05:19] <prpplague> never even crossed my mind about ESC
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  • [16:05:19] <prpplague> anyone working with u-boot v2?
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  • [16:05:19] <ZetaSyanthis_> Any idea when beaglebot.org will be back online?
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  • [16:05:19] <jkridner|work> prpplague: well, rusty has had booths at these events before. wouldn't be bad to have a zippy attached to a beagle at the show.
  • [16:05:19] <jkridner|work> you could send one to me or anyone else going to the show.
  • [16:05:19] <prpplague> jkridner|work: didn't know that rusty had gone to ESC before
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  • [16:05:21] <prpplague> jkridner|work: iirc rusty had already planned to send you a couple
  • [16:05:21] <jkridner|work> hmmm.... maybe not ESC.
  • [16:05:21] <airman00_> do i really need the serial cable to program the BeagleBoard
  • [16:05:21] <airman00_> or can I just use the SD
  • [16:05:21] <jkridner|work> well, i don't recall sending him my address.
  • [16:05:21] <jkridner|work> airman00_: you can use just the SD, but debugging can be tricky.
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  • [16:05:21] <prpplague> jkridner|work: yea he had already allocated a couple of zippy's for you, just hadn't contacted you on shipping info yet
  • [16:05:21] <prpplague> jkridner|work: btw, you headed over to circuitco anytime soon?
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  • [16:05:21] <jkridner|work> prpplague: not any time soon for me.
  • [16:05:21] <prpplague> jkridner|work: ahh ok, was headed that way this week, just thought if you were headed there we could coordinate
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  • [16:05:21] <prpplague> ds2: well everything is working my board except the sd/mmc
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  • [16:12:20] <jkridner|work> after 376 days, I'm rebooting beagleboard.org. sorry for not scheduling. load was getting crazy.
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  • [16:28:43] * Topic is 'Welcome to #beagle | Discussion about the OMAP3 Beagle Board | http://beagleboard.org | For Beagle search tools, go to #dashboard at irc.gimp.org, not here | Discussion is logged at http://www.beagleboard.org/irclogs | Please read http://beagleboard.org/support/faq then ask your question'
  • [16:28:43] * Set by eFfeM on Fri Apr 03 01:09:07 CDT 2009
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  • [16:44:32] <ds2> morning
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  • [16:46:42] <jkridner|work> hi ds2
  • [16:46:51] <jkridner|work> anyone here headed to ESC Boston?
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  • [16:49:01] <_koen_> prpplague: my dallas trip is starting to take shape, will ping you and rusty later
  • [16:49:29] <prpplague> _koen_: dandy!
  • [16:49:32] <ds2> WAS going to
  • [16:49:46] <ds2> but other civic duties has decided to interfere :(
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  • [17:16:11] <Crofton|work> koen, let me know if you stop on the east coast
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  • [17:32:18] <sakoman> ds2: jury duty?
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  • [17:32:49] <ds2> sakoman: *nod*
  • [17:33:32] <sakoman> ds2: had to do my annual stint a couple of months ago
  • [17:34:29] <prpplague> i have jury duty on the 24th
  • [17:34:46] <prpplague> not likely to serv though, they generally don't want people who can think for themselves
  • [17:35:00] <ds2> hmmm
  • [17:35:15] <ds2> sakoman: county or feds?
  • [17:38:46] <ds2> i hope chronos won't get delayed more
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  • [17:51:35] <starter3d> hi all
  • [17:52:35] <starter3d> anybody alive?
  • [17:52:58] <prpplague> starter3d: we are quasi alive, much like zombies or vampires
  • [17:53:18] <starter3d> :)
  • [17:53:47] <starter3d> I need advices about beagleboard
  • [17:54:15] <starter3d> I'm a newbie, do not know where to start
  • [17:54:22] <prpplague> starter3d: ask away, if someone knows the answer they will respond
  • [17:54:36] <prpplague> starter3d: there is a "getting started" wiki page
  • [17:54:56] <ds2> don't worry so much where you start. figure out what you want to do. Then figure out how to start getting there.
  • [17:55:18] <starter3d> we have purchased one beagleboard, I have checked the board's manual, schematic, etc. But I'm a digital designer
  • [17:55:34] <starter3d> I quite do not know much about linux
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  • [17:55:50] <noeska> hello
  • [17:55:54] <starter3d> And not a good programmer
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  • [17:55:59] <ds2> what are you trying to do?
  • [17:56:08] <starter3d> a decoder implementation
  • [17:56:26] <starter3d> probably I will design a board myself too
  • [17:56:27] <ds2> video? audio? data?
  • [17:56:35] <starter3d> video
  • [17:57:01] <starter3d> And the board will include an fpga too
  • [17:57:03] <ds2> condensed summary - for video, you got the ffmpeg stuff, you got the DSP stuff
  • [17:57:05] <starter3d> probably
  • [17:57:30] <ds2> ffmpeg is a library so you will probally want to look into something like mplayer or gstreamer to tie it together
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  • [17:58:21] <ZetaSyanthis_> Are there any particular issues associated with powering the beagleboard via the expansion connector?
  • [17:58:34] <noeska> i have a question on connection to the beagleboard using rs232 suposedly that should give readeable output, but all i get is inverse question marks? Does that sound familiar to someone here? What should i do to fix it?
  • [17:58:36] <ZetaSyanthis_> Thinking about putting switchers for it on a daughterboard
  • [17:58:41] <ds2> starter3d: a possible starting point is to try those out on your desktop machine then try the ARM stuff
  • [17:58:56] <ZetaSyanthis_> and nixing the connector on that side would help with space constraints
  • [17:59:13] <ds2> noeska: are you using the right cable? check the pin out with a DMM
  • [17:59:18] <prpplague> ZetaSyanthis_: we haven't run into any issues as of yet
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  • [17:59:38] <noeska> DMM?
  • [17:59:45] <ds2> ZetaSyanthis_: I have done 2 boards like that and it works fine
  • [17:59:55] <prpplague> digital multimeter
  • [18:00:38] <noeska> dont own such a device, im a software programmer doing something adventerous with hardware
  • [18:00:53] <ds2> then buy a known working cable
  • [18:01:18] <ZetaSyanthis_> Thanks, ds2
  • [18:01:37] <ds2> ZetaSyanthis_: what kind of switchers were you thinking of using?
  • [18:01:44] <noeska> anyway i have a null modem cable and a subd9p male to idc10p header
  • [18:01:47] <starter3d> ds2: In the laboratory, I'm told that we will use linux-ubuntu, what should I know about porting a C code to omap3530?
  • [18:01:49] <ZetaSyanthis_> do you need to jumper j2 to do that?
  • [18:02:17] <ds2> starter3d: not much more... just follow standard C and you should be fine
  • [18:02:36] <ZetaSyanthis_> We were looking at the tps5430d to power it and a few other peripherals
  • [18:02:38] <prpplague> noeska: most likely you have the ground pin swapped with one of the data pins
  • [18:03:16] <sakoman> ds2: county. wasn't bad at all. only wasted 3 hours one morning waiting around for a trial that ended up settling at the last minute
  • [18:03:44] <ds2> sakoman: this is the feds... the county folks are more reasonable
  • [18:03:53] <sakoman> I was reading a good book, so it wasn't bad at all :-)
  • [18:04:08] <starter3d> Do you know, whether there is a way to connect an fpga board to beagleboard? Should I use expansion header
  • [18:04:22] <ZetaSyanthis_> ds2: I don't suppose you know of a source for reasonable length headers for the smaller expansion connectors... most I've found are 3mm or shorter
  • [18:04:25] <ds2> starter3d: yes, and yes.
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  • [18:04:49] <ds2> ZetaSyanThis_: why do you need longer? the short ones work fine
  • [18:05:12] <ZetaSyanthis_> Just wanted a little more clearance underneath the beagle, but I guess that works
  • [18:05:28] <ds2> under?!
  • [18:06:28] <ZetaSyanthis_> Aye, was planning on putting some of the smaller components (A/D, etc under it)
  • [18:06:55] <ds2> I been putting it on top instead
  • [18:07:02] <ZetaSyanthis_> rs-485 tranceiver, level shifter, etc
  • [18:07:03] <noeska> the red edge of the idc10 goes to the left of the beagleboard seen from the side where the idc 10 connector is?
  • [18:07:04] <ds2> avoids those issues ;)
  • [18:07:05] <ZetaSyanthis_> This is a senior design project... building a quadruped robot
  • [18:07:12] * ZetaSyanthis_ nods
  • [18:07:22] <ZetaSyanthis_> well, v2 of the robot
  • [18:07:25] <ds2> also placed it next to it
  • [18:08:38] <ds2> bbl
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  • [18:10:38] <noeska> should minicom modem initialisation settings be turned off also?
  • [18:10:58] <maelcum> yes, kinda
  • [18:11:41] <maelcum> minicom is already "connected" when you start it though, you can use the connection right away. just don't issue any commands to minicom that would make it initialize a modem.
  • [18:14:04] <kblin> maelcum: pong. didn't get around to looking at the differences yet
  • [18:15:29] <maelcum> ok
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  • [18:28:36] <kblin> maelcum: I also got a sheevaplug now, so I'm considering using cifs or nfs instead of attaching a usb drive directly
  • [18:29:11] <mru> sheevaplug works nicely with nfs
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  • [18:29:28] <maelcum> sheevaplug looks interesting... is it availbale in bulk now or still developer preview?
  • [18:30:02] <mru> what do you mean by bulk?
  • [18:40:52] <kblin> maelcum: I only needed one :)
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  • [18:42:04] <maelcum> oh, i just wonder you can buy them without waiting and/or claiming to be a developer (which i am, kind of)
  • [18:42:11] <maelcum> *wonder if
  • [18:42:24] <mru> I didn't claim anything at all to get mine
  • [18:42:33] <mru> that was back in june or so
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  • [18:50:31] <medusa> hello?
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  • [18:51:26] <medusa> could some1 help me with the ethernet connection on BB?
  • [18:52:08] <maelcum> you need a usb-ethernet adapter and the right usb adapter cables and a hub and then it usually just works.
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  • [18:52:20] <medusa> i'm connected with the USB-ethernet hub
  • [18:54:03] <medusa> BB-connected to the OTG usb and Host is Linux-Ubuntu
  • [18:56:07] <prpplague> jkridner|work: lordy lordy, i sure am missing something on this mmc boot
  • [18:56:34] <prpplague> jkridner|work: other than the one spru doc on the rom boot, is there any more detail info on the mmc boot process?
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  • [18:59:51] <koen> FWIW, oe .dev has touchbook support now
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  • [19:25:02] <noeska> another test with realterm i get cts8 and break when the beagleboard start and 255 chars of giberish.
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  • [19:35:00] <noeska> if my null modem cable is not a real null modem cable would that also give the above result?
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  • [19:59:05] <noeska> tested my null modem cable between com1 and com2 on my pc and it works with RTS/CTS
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  • [20:17:33] <prpplague> noeska: most like your have your adapter wired incorrectly
  • [20:17:51] <falo> hey, has anyone been able to configure mysql on the beagleboard?
  • [20:18:49] <falo> i install mysql through opkg, after that, i try to run it
  • [20:18:49] <noeska> the idc10 to db9 one? I bought as a whole in the electronics store today. but i read in the faq there are two kinds ...
  • [20:19:40] <falo> and this is the message "Can't connect to local MySQL server though socket '/tmp/mysql.sock' "
  • [20:19:55] <prpplague> noeska: indeed
  • [20:20:04] <noeska> pffff
  • [20:20:11] <prpplague> noeska: you need to check and make sure that it is wired 1 to 1 for pin numbers
  • [20:20:31] <noeska> you cannot see that from the outside
  • [20:21:20] <falo> and this is the message "Can't connect to local MySQL server though socket '/tmp/mysql.sock' "
  • [20:21:26] <falo> i install mysql through opkg, after that, i try to run it
  • [20:21:51] <falo> does anyone has a clue?
  • [20:21:54] <prpplague> noeska: if it is one of the standard ones, you can take the two screw posts off and slide the case down
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  • [20:27:32] <noeska> wire one is going to the to pen, the second wire is going to the bottom of the db9 etc
  • [20:27:43] <noeska> pen = top
  • [20:28:55] <prpplague> noeska: yea sounds like you have the wrong one, the first 5 wires should go to the top of the db9 and the next 4 should go to the bottom
  • [20:29:40] <noeska> ok, hope my nephew can help me solder it the right way ...
  • [20:30:11] <noeska> the shop had only one kind
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  • [20:34:49] <prpplague> ds2: darn if i can find whats wrong with this mmc/sd
  • [20:35:05] <prpplague> ds2: the bga pads are correct, voltage is correct, pinouts are correct
  • [20:35:16] <falo> thanks for ignoring me moth#$#@$%
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  • [20:36:07] <noeska> step by step i going to get somewhere :-)
  • [20:37:08] <noeska> btw the faq could use some pictures of good vs bad cables/connectors making it a bit easier for hardware newbies to detect right from wrong
  • [20:37:19] <XorA> ok, what insane person designed the pinmux stuff in linux-omap
  • [20:39:25] <prpplague> XorA: hehe, i've been saying the same thing for about 3 months
  • [20:39:38] <prpplague> XorA: compared to the s3cxxxx stuff, it is just plain insane
  • [20:40:01] <prpplague> XorA: bjdooks has been dealing with the pinmux stuff as well
  • [20:40:02] <XorA> prpplague: took me ages to realise the enum and the array need to be identicle
  • [20:40:08] <XorA> prpplague: and for no real reason
  • [20:42:15] <XorA> prpplague: and for some reason I can never line up the numbers between 2.6.29 and 2.6.31
  • [20:43:26] <prpplague> XorA: indeed, i've been doing a baremetal app and it's driving me insane
  • [20:43:51] <XorA> Crofton|work: oi, explain all
  • [20:44:03] <Crofton|work> explain what?
  • [20:44:08] <XorA> pinmux
  • [20:44:10] <Crofton|work> ah pinmux crap
  • [20:44:29] <XorA> Crofton|work: is it just that most pins are missing?
  • [20:44:35] <Crofton|work> yeah
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  • [20:44:40] <XorA> Crofton|work: or is there no consistant naming scheme?
  • [20:44:40] <Crofton|work> you add them as you need them
  • [20:44:48] <Crofton|work> well, it is insane
  • [20:45:03] <Crofton|work> we should look at the s3c stuff
  • [20:45:24] <XorA> pxa stuff was nice and simple
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  • [20:46:14] <XorA> but I think I understand the omap3 stuff now
  • [20:46:38] <XorA> android guys have flown ahead with pin definitions
  • [20:48:48] <XorA> Crofton|work: so its BALLNO_CPUNO_FUNCTION?
  • [20:49:37] <Crofton> mode0 function
  • [20:49:41] <Crofton> urg
  • [20:49:46] <Crofton> I have to go back and look
  • [20:51:07] <XorA> Crofton: cant be mode0 as you can have more than one function defined :-)
  • [20:51:07] <Crofton|work> I need to go mow, looks like we are in for rain
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  • [21:06:22] <kblin> say, can I change the boot command line in uboot without saving it to nand?
  • [21:11:38] <kblin> hm, nm, I just don't do saveenv, obviously
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  • [21:31:24] <_av500_> Crofton|work: pinmux is mentioned and you run ;)
  • [21:31:32] <Crofton> yeah
  • [21:31:56] <Crofton> it sounds like we should look at the s3c one
  • [21:32:05] <Crofton> it sounds like khilman will entertain code
  • [21:32:20] <_av500_> freom pxa?
  • [21:32:41] <Crofton> I am not familiar with other pinmux solutions
  • [21:33:05] <_av500_> there was a wiki mentioned it has pxa details
  • [21:33:17] <_av500_> la or lo
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