• [00:00:35] <bobkatzz> hey rtow - any ideas about the adapter? are you using one?
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  • [00:21:12] <Crofton|work> bobhope, plug it in and see what happanes
  • [00:21:23] <Crofton|work> we should have drivers in Angstrom
  • [00:21:26] <Crofton|work> I hope :)
  • [00:22:41] <bobkatzz> I'm running Ubuntu with lxde so I don't know how close the Angstrom drivers would be if at all. - I did plug it in but nada
  • [00:23:15] <bobkatzz> do I plug it in after booting or before? (did it before so it would boot with it)
  • [00:23:56] <Crofton|work> either should work
  • [00:24:00] <Crofton|work> hmm
  • [00:24:08] <Crofton|work> I do not know much about Ubuntu
  • [00:24:44] <bobkatzz> I read somewhere that I have to change some setting like eth0 - eth1 to eth0 -usb <something>
  • [00:24:58] <bobkatzz> but that's greek to me
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  • [00:40:48] <bobkatzz> I am keeping track of all the various "walls" that I have met during this process and I think it would help alot to have all this documented so newcomers don't have to beat their heads bloody against the various walls just get to a starting point for doing some kind of experimentation on the BB
  • [00:41:06] <bobkatzz> wall 5 - internet connectivity :)
  • [00:44:29] <bobkatzz> wall 1 - serial cable; wall 2 - creating booting an SD card; wall 3 compiling a distro that will support my research (do wall 3 4 + times, hehe) which brings us to yep wall 5!
  • [00:45:49] <bobkatzz> the nice thig is that so far each wall has been scaled - with the help of the group in here and that's fantastic
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  • [00:51:16] <icicled> newbie here, could someone recommend some materials (web articles, wikipedia, books, etc.) that I can take a look at that can help me better understand embedded systems?
  • [00:51:43] <SpeedEvil> it's a rather wide field
  • [00:52:06] <icicled> it probably is, but i would like to understand what x-load & uboot and all this stuff means
  • [00:52:10] <icicled> and where it fits in
  • [00:52:20] <icicled> from top to bottom, hardware to software
  • [00:52:39] <SpeedEvil> going from PIC10F* devices, with 256 words of flash, and 2 bytes of ram, up to embedded PCs and beyond
  • [00:53:34] <icicled> I've taken a few digital circuits classes and computer architecture so i should be able to understand things without too much trouble i hope
  • [00:53:46] <SpeedEvil> do you want a toaster with one light, or do you want it to do real-time raytracing of a toast-model to a HD stream over gigabit ethernet
  • [00:54:07] <SpeedEvil> uboot is basically equivalent to the PC BIOS
  • [00:54:39] <SpeedEvil> it initialises the lowest-level hardware, and fetches a kernel image to execute
  • [00:55:32] <icicled> i see, that makes sense
  • [00:55:45] <icicled> so it's bios + grub (sort of)
  • [00:58:17] <bobkatzz> Did I speak too soon?? :)
  • [00:58:49] <Crofton|work> er
  • [00:59:02] <Crofton|work> not reallu bios, since it provides no services to the OS
  • [00:59:36] <SpeedEvil> yeah - the kernel has to do all the work once it's executed
  • [00:59:57] <icicled> hmm, ok, so it sets up the hardware to do load the code that will control it ?
  • [01:00:04] <SpeedEvil> the bootloader in embedded systems does not typically do anything but load the kernel (in the normal path of execution)
  • [01:00:40] <ds2> in this case, u-boot does setup the hw :(
  • [01:00:41] <SpeedEvil> however - embedded is a wide field - including - for example - PC in a box with an LED on.
  • [01:00:43] <icicled> i see, and does uboot have the ability to determine where to get the kernel from (i.e. sd, usb, etc.) ?
  • [01:01:07] <SpeedEvil> maybe, depending on platform
  • [01:02:16] <icicled> take the BB for instance then
  • [01:02:21] <SpeedEvil> it can have - for example - a serial menu
  • [01:02:41] <SpeedEvil> which can be connected to during boot and told what to load
  • [01:03:40] <icicled> gotcha
  • [01:04:11] <icicled> so, i turned on my BB (plugged into usb) then minicom'ed in via /dev/ttyACM0 and I'm at a prompt
  • [01:04:22] <icicled> is what i am seeing uboot?
  • [01:05:15] <TypoNAM> hopefully ;)
  • [01:05:21] <SpeedEvil> Assuming the boot process is similar to the OM neo1973, and I understand it is, yes.
  • [01:05:41] <SpeedEvil> this device will then go away when you carry on booting the kernel
  • [01:05:58] <SpeedEvil> IIRC 'help' does something instructive
  • [01:06:27] <icicled> yes, i saw the list of commands and descriptions
  • [01:16:32] <icicled> i'm assuming all this uboot stuff we are talking about refers to -> http://www.denx.de/wiki/U-Boot ?
  • [01:19:15] <ds2> yep
  • [01:19:33] <icicled> cool
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  • [01:19:50] <icicled> unfortunately the page is lacking in a decent introduction (i couldn't find it anyway)
  • [01:20:03] <icicled> though i did find an article http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT5085702347.html if anyone wants to give it to someone else
  • [01:20:15] <SpeedEvil> It's a wiki
  • [01:22:39] <icicled> i wish they had a project summary that was on the front page though
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  • [01:23:05] <icicled> looked at the FAQ and its technical
  • [01:23:10] <icicled> anyway, back to the article :P
  • [01:23:39] <ds2> u-boot is pretty normal... PC's are the exception
  • [01:27:06] <icicled> right now i can get to a terminal via /dev/ttyACM0 (usb OTG port), once i throw angstrom on there, will i be able to do the same?
  • [01:27:14] <icicled> or will i have to use the serial port?
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  • [01:37:18] <bobkatzz> that's a heavy article - I prolly should digest that too!
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  • [01:38:15] <bobkatzz> icicled - what is your intended use of the BB?
  • [01:40:47] <icicled> i want to jack around with it enough so that i can use it to play videos with the gpu
  • [01:41:29] <icicled> that and just get started in the little big world of embedded linux development
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  • [01:42:08] <icicled> i found this to be interesting read: http://elinux.org/Mount_BeagleBoard_Root_Filesystem_over_NFS_via_USB
  • [01:42:15] <icicled> don't need to have a sd card =]
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  • [01:49:11] <bobkatzz> kewl - wear your helmet :)
  • [01:49:51] <bobkatzz> it's like mtn biking - sometimes you lean a little too far forward and then hit a rock! heh
  • [01:50:44] <bobkatzz> considering everyone is in the same mode of exploration there is an amzing amount of documentation and help
  • [01:52:21] <bobkatzz> check out koen's imagemaker - where you can select from a "Chinese Menu" of components and then his slick proggy compiles them and balls them all up for you --> http://amethyst.openembedded.net/~koen/narcissus/
  • [01:53:51] <bobkatzz> and this is good for making a boot disk (SD) for various "flavors" of Ubuntu desktop environs - I'm using lxde now since it's really lightwieght
  • [01:53:56] <bobkatzz> http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu
  • [01:55:08] <bobkatzz> now if I can just get the "recommended" ethernet adapter to work :)
  • [01:55:25] <icicled> that's a pretty cool site, thanks
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  • [02:09:49] <bobkatzz> icicled - have you got your serial cable working?
  • [02:10:51] <icicled> i don't have one yet
  • [02:11:00] <icicled> i'm using just the usb cable via the OTG port
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  • [02:11:58] <icicled> so it seems that i have to have a SD card to get started
  • [02:12:06] <icicled> it is impossible to escape =\
  • [02:12:10] <icicled> oh well, it's in the mail
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  • [02:14:04] <bobkatzz> yeah I got two 2G cards and maybe shoulda got an 4G but so far I haven't put much of a dent in the ext3 side of the card yet which I have set at 1700M
  • [02:14:17] <bobkatzz> that's where the files sytem lives
  • [02:14:29] <bobkatzz> file system heh
  • [02:14:36] <icicled> heh, nice
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  • [02:14:48] <bobkatzz> http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/BeagleBoardDiagnostics <<---- you might want to check this out too
  • [02:14:50] <icicled> i wish it had the capability of booting right off the usb drive
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  • [02:16:04] <bobkatzz> you can make a cable out of 3 wires and an old serial connector (I've got at least 40 of those secreted away in my attic hehe)
  • [02:17:50] <icicled> i've got the serial header
  • [02:18:03] <icicled> the thing is that i don't have a serial port on my computer
  • [02:18:38] <icicled> so i need to do USB to Serial -> null modem cable <- Serial to 10-pin
  • [02:19:05] <bobkatzz> the only thing you need to do is swap the rx and tx
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  • [02:20:56] <bobkatzz> http://up.widget.mibbit.com/up/MoQbGdWn.jpg <-- here's how they look on the BB RS232 pin terminal
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  • [02:23:10] <bobkatzz> I ripped a 10 pin connector and it's cable off an old motherboard here and if you're really careful you can pull up on the little tabs that hold the wires in and back the wires out and rearrange them then you have a nice connector
  • [02:24:51] <icicled> i see, so you have a cable going from the BB to your computer with nothing in between?
  • [02:25:01] <bobkatzz> yeah it sucks not having a serial connector on things - a lot of the software that I work with (ham radio stuff) is still back in the per-USB days for the most part so we have to get creative hehe
  • [02:25:10] <bobkatzz> yeah
  • [02:25:15] <icicled> nice
  • [02:25:22] <bobkatzz> but I have a serial prot
  • [02:25:29] <bobkatzz> port
  • [02:25:29] <icicled> yep
  • [02:25:30] <Animule> i have one too
  • [02:25:38] <Animule> just had to get an adapt-o-matic on it :P
  • [02:25:50] <Animule> Silicon Labs makes a USB-UART that works real nice
  • [02:25:53] <Animule> cp2102
  • [02:26:05] <Animule> mac/win/*nix driver too
  • [02:26:09] <bobkatzz> yeah you can get a USB-Serial adapter but they're like $35 at RadioShaft
  • [02:26:50] <Animule> free samples from the mfgr ftw :D
  • [02:26:56] <bobkatzz> so Animule - have you gotten a USB/Ethernet adapter to run on Angstrom or Ubuntu on the BB?
  • [02:26:57] <icicled> really?
  • [02:27:12] <icicled> animule, point me to the samples page please :)
  • [02:27:18] <Animule> call silabs
  • [02:27:20] <icicled> i was just gonna get this -> http://www.amazon.com/Cables-Go-26886-Serial-Adapter/dp/B000067RVJ/
  • [02:27:49] <Animule> http://animal.is-a-geek.com/temp/gpsboxdata.jpg
  • [02:27:58] <bobkatzz> yeah I found all the recommended BB stuff at newegg for like $54 - locally it would have been over $100
  • [02:28:02] <Animule> http://animal.is-a-geek.com/temp/gpsboxpower.jpg
  • [02:28:19] <bobkatzz> suweet!
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  • [02:28:36] <Animule> powers my GPS, can go GPS-RS232 (APRS), GPS-USB (Computer), USB-Serial (radios, everything else)
  • [02:28:44] <Animule> enclosure was free too.. pactec :D
  • [02:29:01] <bobkatzz> ok how 'bout etherent - I want to apt-get stuff directly to the BB
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  • [02:29:32] <Animule> get it on a network, serial console, apt-get
  • [02:29:59] <bobkatzz> 'yeah it always helps to have a small business on the side to get "samples" heh
  • [02:30:08] <icicled> heh
  • [02:30:11] <bobkatzz> come again?
  • [02:30:14] <Animule> i've done it personally too
  • [02:30:41] <bobkatzz> so I can go through my Linux dev box as a gateway?
  • [02:31:05] <Animule> exploding waffle irons?
  • [02:31:40] <Downix> ok, this is interesting. Found out that they've modified a MiniMig to use an ARM CPU
  • [02:31:56] <bobkatzz> i didn't get the serial console/apt-get thing
  • [02:32:16] <icicled> what's minimig?
  • [02:32:49] <bobkatzz> he I had an Amiga 1000 in '88
  • [02:33:18] <Downix> icicled, GPL'd Amiga clone
  • [02:33:20] <bobkatzz> the entire setup cost $6k as in 000's heh the HP desk jet was $1000
  • [02:33:34] <icicled> i was born 3 years before then :D
  • [02:33:48] <bobkatzz> whoa! dude!
  • [02:33:59] <Downix> bobkatzz, really? What did you order with it? The Zorro card?
  • [02:34:29] <bobkatzz> now had toaster and a video camera
  • [02:34:47] <bobkatzz> did 3D design with it (industrial designer here )
  • [02:35:11] <Downix> bobhope, Wasn't a 1000, the 1000 didn't take the toaster. You had a 2000
  • [02:36:16] <Downix> (great machine too)
  • [02:36:57] <Downix> The 1000 lacked any expantion ability beyond a single sidecar slot, similar to what you had on the A500
  • [02:37:43] <bobkatzz> I'll have to check - it's in the attic
  • [02:37:52] <icicled> ordered my sample from silabs, the wiring seems straightforward =]
  • [02:38:06] <icicled> now to find a 10-pin header that i can solder to
  • [02:38:24] <Downix> bobhope, I'll almost guarantee you it was a 2000. The only other one in '85 that *could* take the toaster is the 1500, and those are rarer than hens teeth.
  • [02:38:41] <Downix> grr
  • [02:38:45] <Downix> bobkatzz even
  • [02:38:58] <bobkatzz> all I know is that I had a flood in my studio and the HD died and the retailer wouldn't fix it so it sat there for 10 years until my son dragged it out - got the HD to run and put linux on it hehe
  • [02:39:22] <bobkatzz> this was '88 I'm sure
  • [02:39:31] <icicled> thanks for the help folks, i'll be back later =]
  • [02:39:42] <bobkatzz> ok - be well and good luck
  • [02:39:43] <Downix> Then I'd wager a 2000
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  • [02:39:53] <Downix> I know one of the engineers on the 2000
  • [02:40:06] <bobkatzz> kewl - it was a great box
  • [02:40:10] <Downix> Still is
  • [02:40:20] <Downix> those guys can still take some major expantions
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  • [02:41:09] <bobkatzz> the video camera had a strange way of making a color image - it had a 3 color wheel and you took 3 successive images and it "mashed" them togehter into a color pic - crude but it did work hehe
  • [02:41:17] <Downix> The 3000 from '89 was a real beauty, and can take the PowerPC accelerator.
  • [02:41:32] <Downix> same way Technicolor type III worked
  • [02:41:40] <Downix> it's what Disney used for its animated movies
  • [02:41:52] <bobkatzz> I wonder why they went under - except bad management
  • [02:42:16] <Downix> bad executive management
  • [02:43:01] <bobkatzz> yeah I think the Amiga adherents were more dedicated than the Mac users hehe
  • [02:43:10] <bobkatzz> or we still are!
  • [02:43:19] <Downix> in '84 they got rid of the CEO that made their fortune. The company went into a death spiral. They got in a CEO in '87 who turned the company around, then he showed up for work to find his locks changed, the Chairman kicked him out years early
  • [02:43:32] <Downix> After that, they just slowly imploded
  • [02:43:41] <Downix> they messed up SO badly
  • [02:43:52] <bobkatzz> but the beagleboard has some similarities with the onboard image and polygon processing at chip level
  • [02:43:57] <Downix> Indeed
  • [02:44:06] <bobkatzz> that's going to be hot
  • [02:44:14] <Downix> It's not quite the same, but it does have some echoes
  • [02:44:38] <bobkatzz> ome echos -- ome echos --
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  • [02:44:52] <Downix> the whole "Let's go PowerPC" was a major mistake
  • [02:45:11] <Downix> said so in '95, said so in '00, and now I look back and go "told you so"
  • [02:45:31] <bobkatzz> well mine died so I wan't around for that part - I was at Circuit city doing VRML stuff
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  • [02:46:00] <Downix> dude, they're still trying to sell PowerPC as the PC-killer
  • [02:46:05] <bobkatzz> which also diend a nasty death
  • [02:46:19] <Downix> latest one, a 603e based machine called the Sam440
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  • [02:47:36] <bobkatzz> they gave the kids in our district iBooks with OS X on it and about 20 minutes from the time my son brought it home he and his brother had it ripped down to the unix shell and were doing unix stuff on it hehe
  • [02:48:11] <bobkatzz> then put it back in oreder and the admins never knew
  • [02:48:28] <Downix> hehe
  • [02:48:34] <Downix> I love the Mac for that
  • [02:48:39] <Downix> I have a powermac here
  • [02:48:57] <bobkatzz> yep - had to work on a MacMini for a month - it was sweet
  • [02:49:37] <bobkatzz> so - now if I could just get me ethernet adapter to work I'll be in high cotton :D
  • [02:50:20] <bobkatzz> they recommend it on the periferalls sheet but no instructions about how to set it up or which distro
  • [02:51:22] <bobkatzz> if anyone reads this log and has any ideas you can email me a shandagha@gmail.com
  • [02:52:36] <bobkatzz> so I' gonna sign off and get some work done - nice talking with you Downix
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  • [04:16:35] <mib_ojudj7> Can I connect the beagle board to a VGA monitor by using one of these ? http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0665000FS10090982&catid=25607
  • [04:16:43] <mib_ojudj7> there isn't any weird gotchas...
  • [04:18:05] <mib_ojudj7> dvi to vga adaptor (16$)
  • [04:19:40] <mib_ojudj7> hello
  • [04:23:38] <mib_ojudj7> :P
  • [04:23:58] <mib_ojudj7> anyone here?
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  • [05:41:21] <pro-rsoft> morn
  • [05:49:00] <AV500> gm
  • [05:49:04] <AV500> got sgx?
  • [05:49:21] <pro-rsoft> yeah
  • [05:49:31] <pro-rsoft> I can see dem textured triangles rotate
  • [05:49:40] <AV500> good
  • [05:50:01] <AV500> running what kernel?
  • [05:50:14] <pro-rsoft> 2.6.29.2-oer31.1
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  • [05:50:34] <pro-rsoft> the ddk compiled against 2.6.29-oer33
  • [05:50:48] <AV500> so, not the ubuntu one
  • [05:51:02] <pro-rsoft> yes the ubuntu one.
  • [05:51:05] <AV500> ah ok
  • [05:51:14] <pro-rsoft> I didnt even touch Angstrom or OE.
  • [05:55:29] <AV500> k
  • [05:55:56] <pro-rsoft> http://pro-rsoft.com/screens/beagle-triangles.jpg
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  • [06:46:05] <ds2> . Switching
  • [06:46:05] <ds2> Usually done with an inductor like for boosting but
  • [06:46:05] <ds2> wired in a different topology.
  • [06:46:05] <ds2> . More complex then linear
  • [06:46:05] <ds2> . Voltage difference is _NOT_ converted to
  • [06:46:06] <ds2> heat.
  • [06:46:08] <ds2> . can be more efficient then linear
  • [06:46:10] <ds2> . Also known as "buck"
  • [06:46:14] <ds2> arrrrrg
  • [06:46:16] <ds2> GOD DAMN MOUSE
  • [06:46:34] <ds2> this eeepc touch pad mouse is pushing my patience :(
  • [06:46:34] <Animule> ahha
  • [06:47:17] <ds2> MOST of the time, I need to squeeze it like it was a clamp but every now and then it just goes off :(
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  • [06:49:24] <Animule> does it have usb?
  • [06:49:34] <Animule> use a different pointing device...
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  • [06:54:33] <ds2> yes, it does have USB... external mice kind of defeat the small size of the eee
  • [06:55:36] <AV500> ds2: the small size of the eee defeats its usability anyway
  • [06:59:06] <Animule> it will cool my nasal passages too
  • [06:59:43] <pro-rsoft|away> ds2, my dell touchpad is just as annoying
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  • [07:25:44] <ds2> pro-rsoft|away: that is good to know...guess that's the difference between a $200 PoS vs a proper UMPC
  • [07:25:53] <ds2> AV500: the size is not a problem
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  • [07:46:39] <ds2> Hmmmm
  • [07:46:41] <ds2> who *
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  • [08:01:01] <koen> good morning all
  • [08:01:25] <pro-rsoft> morning
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  • [08:15:13] * pro-rsoft is very happy that 3d acc finally works :D
  • [08:15:41] <AV500> but now we want more than these tiny triangles!
  • [08:15:56] <pro-rsoft> yeah I'm gonna try and run more advanced
  • [08:15:59] <pro-rsoft> demos*
  • [08:16:10] <pro-rsoft> once I find the PVRShell include files
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  • [08:33:01] <wanghaojun> hi santoshpattar
  • [08:35:35] <wanghaojun> hi AV500
  • [08:36:17] <wanghaojun> I met the following error when I tried to compile Andriod for beagle board
  • [08:36:29] <wanghaojun> Error: unknown architecture `armv7-a'
  • [08:37:21] <AV500> using what toolchain?
  • [08:37:34] <AV500> the android supplied one? this one does not support armv7
  • [08:38:11] <wanghaojun> arm-2008q3
  • [08:38:24] <wanghaojun> i also tried arm-2009q1
  • [08:38:38] <AV500> wanghaojun: and you patched it with the android patches?
  • [08:39:20] <wanghaojun> No, I just following http://labs.embinux.org/index.php/Android_Porting_Guide_to_Beagle_Board
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  • [08:39:29] <wanghaojun> step by step
  • [08:40:15] <wanghaojun> so the android was got from: git://labs.embinux.org/repo/android/platform/beaglemanifest.git/
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  • [08:44:38] <wanghaojun> hi somebody can give me the latest stable Android version for beagle board
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  • [08:46:58] <AV500> embinux
  • [08:47:17] <AV500> there is not much android on beagle going on apart from them
  • [08:49:15] <wanghaojun> but I can not compile the given code successfull
  • [08:50:17] <wanghaojun> for the error "unknown architecture `armv7-a'"
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  • [08:53:04] <dev001> good morning
  • [08:53:12] <pro-rsoft> morn
  • [08:53:43] <zumbi> hi
  • [08:54:04] <zumbi> i am new to beagle, i have attached usb to my host
  • [08:54:12] <zumbi> nothing on dmesg
  • [08:54:25] <zumbi> is there any quick start guide?
  • [08:54:37] <zumbi> i am trying to flash u-boot into the beagle
  • [08:54:50] <zumbi> so, better if i start building a serial cable?
  • [08:55:27] <wanghaojun> hi AV500
  • [08:55:56] <pro-rsoft> zumbi, uboot is already on the beagle
  • [08:56:06] <pro-rsoft> the bootloader doesn't support ttyUSB AFAIK
  • [08:56:11] <wanghaojun> could help me to fix the error "Error: unknown architecture `armv7-a'"
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  • [08:56:50] <pro-rsoft> zumbi, making the serial cable isn't hard... just wire up Ground to a serial cable Ground, RX to TX and TX to RX
  • [08:56:57] <pro-rsoft> I made mine from motherboard connectors
  • [08:57:02] <AV500> wanghaojun: did you build the toolchain?
  • [08:57:12] <wanghaojun> no
  • [08:57:15] * zumbi starts making a serial
  • [08:57:19] <wanghaojun> I download the bin
  • [08:58:31] <wanghaojun> arm-2009q1-161-arm-none-eabi.bin
  • [08:58:51] <zumbi> what is usb OTG useful for (devel context)?
  • [08:58:59] <wanghaojun> I build the toolchain
  • [08:59:02] <pro-rsoft> is it allowed to redistribute the GLES SDK?
  • [08:59:22] <pro-rsoft> zumbi, I power it using that port
  • [08:59:37] <pro-rsoft> zumbi, using a digital camera connector... quick and easy
  • [08:59:44] <zumbi> i have a powersupply and the usb OTG
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  • [09:10:25] <pro-rsoft> where to get devmem2 app ?
  • [09:10:41] <AV500> google
  • [09:11:02] <pro-rsoft> wow. thanks
  • [09:11:29] <AV500> i didnt make google
  • [09:11:55] <pro-rsoft> I just hit "im feeling lucky" and bamm a c file
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  • [09:16:24] <erbo> I'm trying to build beagleboard-demo-image but it fails on jack. It seems like it checks for ppoll in the configure script, which it founds, but during the linking it complain on undefined reference to ppoll.. Has enyone else seen this?
  • [09:17:20] <Kumar> Hello, can somebody suggest me a VOIP client for beagle board which uses DSP for Multimedia handling?
  • [09:17:46] <AV500> Kumar: not atm
  • [09:17:49] <erbo> I checked tinderbox.openembedded.org and there all builds are successful
  • [09:18:53] <Kumar> How about sofsip_cli? anybody tried this
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  • [09:22:44] <Kumar> hello?
  • [09:22:57] <erbo> hi
  • [09:23:45] <Kumar> does tinderbox using gstreamer?
  • [09:25:30] <erbo> what? my line about tinderbox was an addition to my question about my jack problems
  • [09:25:39] <erbo> it's not a voip client :)
  • [09:25:47] <Kumar> :-)
  • [09:25:59] <Kumar> sorry that what i was thinking
  • [09:26:28] <Kumar> anybody else
  • [09:30:25] <koen> empathy and ekiga can use gstreamer as backends, so if you have a gst plugin that runs those codecs on the dsp you might get dsp accell
  • [09:30:41] <koen> better ask in #gst_ti in a few hours when the US DSP engineers wake up
  • [09:32:03] <Kumar> thanks keon
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  • [09:45:13] <zumbi> pro-rsoft: serial cable done, but i do not get a shell on minicom at 115200, no hw flow control
  • [09:45:33] <szricky> Hi, I want to build cheese in x11-image, should I append one line "cheese \" on x11-image?
  • [09:45:38] <AV500> zumbi: then maybe "not" done :-)
  • [09:46:15] <zumbi> AV500: which ways besides serial cable we have to access to a term in the beagle?
  • [09:47:12] <AV500> USB
  • [09:47:27] <pro-rsoft> zumbi, just garbles or nothing?
  • [09:47:32] <AV500> but really, check your cable 1st, it works for so many people, it will work for you as well
  • [09:47:33] <szricky> just append "cheese \" to the x11-image.bb, is it enough? please advise, thanks!
  • [09:47:43] <pro-rsoft> zumbi, make sure you run minicom with -o *or* fire up minicom before you turn on the beagle
  • [09:47:44] <zumbi> AV500: no, USB is not available, AFAIK
  • [09:48:08] <pro-rsoft> also make sure the wiring is correct and that you crosswired RX and TX
  • [09:48:09] <zumbi> pro-rsoft: yes, minicom -o nor screen where saying anything
  • [09:48:22] <AV500> zumbi: cable wrong
  • [09:48:26] <pro-rsoft> must be
  • [09:48:31] <pro-rsoft> or you blew it up
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  • [09:48:52] <zumbi> i did a direct cable, pin 2 --> RX; pin 3-->TX and pin 5 --> GND
  • [09:49:06] <zumbi> 2-->2 3-->3 5-->5
  • [09:49:15] * zumbi search a serial schematic
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  • [09:50:30] <AV500> zumbi: BB TX->PC RX, BB RX->PC TX
  • [09:50:41] <AV500> GND->GND
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  • [09:51:39] <zumbi> http://elinux.org/upload/2/2c/Flyswatter-ti-uart.pdf
  • [09:51:58] <zumbi> i need to cross 2-->3 and 3-->2, i have them direct
  • [09:52:15] * zumbi reworks the cable
  • [09:53:06] <pro-rsoft> as I said. :
  • [09:53:07] <pro-rsoft> :P
  • [09:53:13] <pro-rsoft> I made that mistake too
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  • [10:00:01] <hrw> morning
  • [10:04:48] * zumbi crosses cables and fingers... morning hrw
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  • [10:09:55] <hrw> I just used F<>F cable
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  • [10:31:24] <zumbi> cable is fine, but shell does not want to appear
  • [10:38:13] <zumbi> what can i do, if serial does seem to work?
  • [10:39:17] <AV500> zumbi: got anything else serial to test?
  • [10:39:45] <zumbi> i have other boards arround and my host serial seems working fine
  • [10:40:07] <zumbi> i am going to probe the signals
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  • [11:01:42] <dev001> hi
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  • [11:04:11] <khasim> DJWillis: Ping
  • [11:04:27] <khasim> anyone with pandora here ?
  • [11:05:15] <XorA> nope
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  • [11:05:19] <XorA> still waiting on mine
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  • [11:06:25] <khasim> I got latest one today, nothing seem to be working
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  • [11:20:44] <zumbi> what am i expose to see in the digital scope at serial pins?
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  • [11:21:08] <zumbi> i see a noisy signal on pin 3
  • [11:21:45] <zumbi> pin 2 is constant on -12V
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  • [11:22:22] <zumbi> pin 3 is constant 0V
  • [11:22:57] <zumbi> minicom -o @ 115200 8N1
  • [11:23:22] <zumbi> clicking on the keyboard i see no signals on either 2 or 3
  • [11:23:36] <zumbi> no sheel attached to minicom
  • [11:23:46] <zumbi> should i open an RMA?
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  • [11:33:54] <tor2> zumbi: I think minicom must be set up with flow control off.
  • [11:35:24] * tor2 goes to lunch
  • [11:35:25] <hrw> zumbi: "picocom -b115200 /dev/serial-with-beagleboard-attached" is enough here
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  • [11:39:14] <zumbi> tor2: i have no hw nor sw flow control, not even RTS, CTS connected
  • [11:39:23] * zumbi pulls picocom
  • [11:40:49] <zumbi> hrw: picocom is stuck and last message is Terminal ready
  • [11:40:59] <zumbi> port is : /dev/ttyS0
  • [11:40:59] <zumbi> flowcontrol : none
  • [11:40:59] <zumbi> baudrate is : 115200
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  • [11:42:54] <zumbi> and i double check my cable
  • [11:43:19] <zumbi> beagle (2,3,5) -- host (3,2,5)
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  • [11:46:48] <zumbi> i hear audio burst on just one channel, is it that right?
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  • [12:13:12] <craw> hey there
  • [12:13:51] <zumbi> hi
  • [12:14:05] <craw> has anyone tried ti's gstreamer version and can tell me if it is suitable for streaming video content yet?
  • [12:14:08] <zumbi> hey, thanks all, i got the serial working :)
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  • [12:15:22] <tor2> zumbi: What cause the problem?
  • [12:15:37] <tor2> s/cause/caused/
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  • [12:16:05] <zumbi> tor2: my first cable was the right way to mount it, but it was a little loose, no connection
  • [12:16:12] <koen> craw: #gst_ti would be the place for that
  • [12:16:14] <tor2> aha
  • [12:16:39] <zumbi> then i change the cabling crossing 2-3; 3-2, and that was wrong because i already have a null modem extension
  • [12:16:58] <zumbi> so i put back 2-2 and 3-3 and worked fine
  • [12:16:59] <craw> oh, didn't know that, thank you koen
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  • [12:17:29] <zumbi> now, i am about ready to flash u-boot
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  • [12:18:07] <zumbi> the question is, should i also change x-loader or even use somebodies hack to avoid x-loader
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  • [12:28:18] <zumbi> done
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  • [12:28:34] <zumbi> after flashing an uboot i get
  • [12:28:36] <zumbi> Board revision Ax/Bx
  • [12:28:36] <zumbi> Die ID #5ac400030000000004013f8901001001
  • [12:28:37] <zumbi> OMAP3 beagleboard.org #
  • [12:28:46] <zumbi> what is Die ID ?
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  • [12:32:07] <SpeedEvil> Chip serial number?
  • [12:32:26] <SpeedEvil> Maybe not unique per chip
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  • [12:33:48] <tor2> My guess it's the same as the 'Serial #' field on page 129 in BBSRM_latest.pdf, i.e. 'a unique ID for the processor'
  • [12:34:18] <tor2> It certainly has the same kind of hexadecimal numbers list.
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  • [12:40:14] <zumbi> interesting document :) thanks
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  • [13:31:19] <Crofton> How fast is the L3 interconnect?
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  • [14:03:39] <mib_nztn4t> hi all, does anyone know of a moblin port for the beagleboard?
  • [14:04:15] <AV500> not heard of
  • [14:04:25] <AV500> moblin concentrates on X86
  • [14:04:40] <koen> define moblin
  • [14:04:49] <AV500> :-)
  • [14:04:55] <koen> do you mean the GUI, the OS, the kernel, etc?
  • [14:04:56] <mib_nztn4t> yah i know, i tried compiling it for an arm imx27 and couldnt get very far
  • [14:05:11] <AV500> last thing I saw was an ubuntu with a custom GUI skin :-)
  • [14:05:13] <koen> moblinv2 should be in OE soon
  • [14:05:26] <koen> AV500: it's now fedoro with a custom gui :)
  • [14:05:33] <koen> s/o/a/ somewhere
  • [14:05:47] <AV500> fedara?
  • [14:05:59] <zumbi> moblin dos not work on ARM, AFAIK
  • [14:06:06] <zumbi> s/dos/does
  • [14:06:22] <koen> zumbi: that's what intel wants you to believe
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  • [14:06:32] <koen> the moblin gui runs fine on arm :)
  • [14:06:38] <koen> khilman: good morning!
  • [14:06:50] <khilman> koen: mornin'
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  • [14:07:19] <mib_nztn4t> koen, did you get it to cross compile yourself?
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  • [14:07:28] <zumbi> umm.. i have not test it.. but i know they are working with it on a freescale (iMX51) board
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  • [14:08:31] <mib_nztn4t> i have very little faith in freescales ability to do things right with linux
  • [14:09:03] <zumbi> mib_nztn4t: there are already freescales imx on linux
  • [14:09:44] <mib_nztn4t> i know, ive been fixing their bugs for almost a year now ;-)
  • [14:11:19] <zumbi> ummm.. ok :)
  • [14:11:40] * zumbi concentrates on beagle, step2 -- flash a kernel
  • [14:11:50] <mib_nztn4t> with the new rev C boards, will you be able to directly connect an LCD panel without any electronics in between?
  • [14:12:01] <mru> depends on the panel
  • [14:12:31] * koen connects his DVI screen to a revb beagle with only a cable
  • [14:13:11] <florian> koen: I guess that's the point... are you aware of a _small_ dvi display?
  • [14:13:13] <zumbi> koen: i just did same thing
  • [14:13:23] <koen> florian: yes
  • [14:13:27] <koen> florian: 7inch :)
  • [14:13:33] <florian> koen: link!
  • [14:13:49] <mru> 7" 720p?
  • [14:14:01] * florian tried to find something like this some months ago
  • [14:14:10] <koen> florian: http://www.xenarc.com/product/706tsa.html
  • [14:14:49] <AV500> 800x480
  • [14:15:02] <AV500> 480p!
  • [14:15:20] <florian> koen: many thanks!
  • [14:15:22] * koen remember that he has a patch from TI to make that screen work in his inbox
  • [14:15:37] <koen> the touchscreen part, that is
  • [14:15:37] <florian> I bet it would be possible to fit the beagle in the input box ;)
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  • [14:15:57] <AV500> they need that big input box as well?
  • [14:16:54] <DJWillis> koen: do you have that screen?
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  • [14:18:20] <florian> hmm.. its not that expensive
  • [14:18:48] <zumbi> is it fine if i build a mainline kernel for the beagle?
  • [14:19:30] <AV500> how much are these USB based 7" displays? now that the drivers are "open"
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  • [14:19:40] <koen> DJWillis: no :(
  • [14:19:46] <Crofton> urg, the linux-omap-2.6.29 recipe has loads of patches ....
  • [14:19:51] <koen> AV500: about 70 euros
  • [14:20:01] <AV500> got one?
  • [14:20:08] <DJWillis> florian: I guess $450 is not cheap but it's a fair price for the right install (not that I could afford it ;-))
  • [14:20:10] <koen> AV500: but the current drivers can only draw squares on the screen
  • [14:20:22] <koen> AV500: no, I'm waiting for a kernel fbdev or xorg driver :)
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  • [14:20:40] <AV500> if the squares are 1pixel wide and the position can be controlled, you have a winner :-)
  • [14:20:56] * zumbi search beagle kernel git tree
  • [14:21:00] <AV500> koen: you have an URL for 70????
  • [14:21:01] <koen> AV500: http://azerty.nl/producten/product_detail/936/198242/samsung-syncmaster-spf-u70-lcd-scherm-tft-7-800-x-480-200-cd-m2-400-1-30-ms-0-1905-mm-usb-glanzend-zwart.html
  • [14:21:28] <koen> I suspect you can google up a german store :)
  • [14:22:10] <AV500> yes, but all prices are +20??? :-(
  • [14:22:25] <koen> AV500: the usb2dvi boxes are now $20 at fry's in the US
  • [14:22:56] <koen> http://www.frys.com/product/5668991
  • [14:23:05] <koen> (for people in the US that like mail-in rebates)
  • [14:23:25] <AV500> ok, so they are $40
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  • [14:23:58] <koen> + S&H
  • [14:24:35] * koen looks at http://www.win-star.com/eshop/goods.php?id=30
  • [14:26:00] <zumbi> is it hard to get LCD video support on u-boot?
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  • [14:29:14] <Crofton> koen, we should clean up the zoom board naming
  • [14:29:25] <Crofton> it seems like there are three zoom boards
  • [14:29:30] <Crofton> zoom-mdk
  • [14:29:34] <Crofton> zoom-mdp
  • [14:29:48] <Crofton> and zoom-devkit (which is what I have)
  • [14:30:04] <koen> Crofton: and there are 2 mdp as well
  • [14:30:10] <Crofton> heh
  • [14:30:10] <koen> Crofton: one mobile and one medical :)
  • [14:30:56] * koen has the ldp/labrador/omapzoom thing
  • [14:31:07] <Crofton> ldp?
  • [14:31:12] <Crofton> this is insane
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  • [14:42:36] * khasim in coming days as soon as boards are made in TI one will automatically get shipped to koen - I hope he keeps his shipping address updated at TI :)
  • [14:43:09] <koen> :)
  • [14:43:45] <khasim> you know what my plea for a board got rejected and your name was still on it :)
  • [14:43:54] <koen> heh
  • [14:44:00] <koen> that's not good
  • [14:44:04] <koen> leopardboard?
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  • [14:44:17] <khasim> still under production
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  • [14:44:35] <khasim> your name starts from xl sheets :)
  • [14:44:44] * koen is really curious now
  • [14:44:58] <khasim> I am sure you won't like it :)
  • [14:45:07] <zumbi> do you know a toolchain with NEON and VFPv3 support? (sized for beagle)
  • [14:45:20] <koen> zumbi: OE builds one for you
  • [14:45:43] <khasim> DJWillis: I am back :)
  • [14:46:09] <AV500> khasim: did you check L138 video out?
  • [14:46:11] <koen> khasim: I've heard from other companies as well that their own engineers lack boards because they get shipped to (random) outside people
  • [14:46:19] <zumbi> koen: from wiki pages i was using codesourcery toolchain
  • [14:46:31] <AV500> zumbi: yes, can be used
  • [14:46:42] <zumbi> but i am not sure if this has all those features (2007q3)
  • [14:46:48] <AV500> yes
  • [14:47:03] <AV500> but you need to do NEON in asm
  • [14:47:19] <zumbi> AV500: perhaps do you know a command to ask gcc how was configured
  • [14:47:46] <zumbi> AV500: for now, i do not need NEON, i am just wondering
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  • [14:48:55] <AV500> -v
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  • [14:50:24] <zumbi> AV500: yes, but that does not tell if your toolchain is v4, v5t, iwmmxt extensions, etc..
  • [14:51:05] <zumbi> this is tricky, it might be found in the spec file
  • [14:51:49] <koen> the spec only lists the defaults
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  • [14:54:42] <AV500> zumbi: well, this is what I compile it with: --with-cpu=cortex-a8 --with-arch=armv7-a --with-fpu=vfp3 --with-float=softfp
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  • [14:57:04] <zumbi> thanks AV500 :)
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  • [15:37:34] <pro-rsoft> if I want to crosscompile for my beagle, do I need sourcery's EABI or GNU/Linux download?
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  • [15:38:53] <maelcum> debian uses eabi, dunno about other distros. afaik eabi is simply a better abi than the old gnu abi, so probably all distros use it now.
  • [15:39:03] <AV500> eabi
  • [15:39:06] <pro-rsoft> ok
  • [15:39:09] <pro-rsoft> thanks
  • [15:39:33] <mib_4dvhl0> Can someone tell me where I can find the version of UBOOT source that contains the "Audio Tone on Speakers" test?
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  • [15:42:11] <adj> that's very old u-boot... where do you need so old version? i prefer the version without "BRAAAT!" on every boot :)
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  • [15:43:03] <mib_4dvhl0> I just want to play with audio in uboot and it is a point of reference
  • [15:43:14] <adj> ah, ok
  • [15:44:16] <pro-rsoft> how can I make my /etc/init.d/rc.pvr script automatically called on boot?
  • [15:44:37] <khasim> AV500: I am still working on the Video out, it really irritates ... as I am limited by peripheral usage
  • [15:44:57] <AV500> khasim: ? could you share some data sheet?
  • [15:45:25] <khasim> AV500: I will do so, to which ID of yours ?
  • [15:45:33] <khasim> L 138 has LCDC and VPIF and only one can be active at a given time
  • [15:45:44] <AV500> ID?
  • [15:45:48] <khasim> VPIF takes only YUYV data and LCDC takes only RGB data
  • [15:46:07] <khasim> so FBDEV on LCDC and V4L on VPIF
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  • [15:48:02] <mib_4dvhl0> pro-rsoft: investigate /etc/rcS.d, /etc/rc5.d and such
  • [15:48:29] <pro-rsoft> hmm ok
  • [15:48:36] <pro-rsoft> thanks
  • [15:48:59] <mib_4dvhl0> sure
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  • [15:51:48] <mib_426050> hi all...why my BB give me "overrun!!! (at least 1588.134 ms long)" when I try to record some input audio stream?
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  • [15:52:57] <khasim> I am trying to connect both VPIF and LCDC to single THS8200, not sure if it works that way though. Yet to get some clarity on it.
  • [15:53:26] <rcn-ee> pro-rsoft, for the sgx i have some documentation here: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu#SGX_Video_Acceleration
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  • [15:54:13] <zumbi> rcn-ee: i am compiling a kernel following some elinux guide which tells about getting some patch file from your site
  • [15:54:19] <zumbi> is this up to date?
  • [15:54:41] <zumbi> http://rcn-ee.homeip.net:81/dl/omap/beagle/v2.6.28-79d042a-oer17/v2.6.28-79d042a-oer17.diff
  • [15:54:49] <rcn-ee> zumbi, probally not (oer# wise) but agorithm is the same..
  • [15:55:05] <zumbi> where is latest development kernel for beagle?
  • [15:55:09] <rcn-ee> zumbi, btw which elinux guide, i think there's 3-4 of them.. ;)
  • [15:55:15] <zumbi> openembedded tree?
  • [15:55:27] <zumbi> http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardDebian
  • [15:57:04] <zumbi> Image arch/arm/boot/uImage is ready
  • [15:57:05] <rcn-ee> zumbi, yeah the directions are up to date, for the latest stable version just change 2.6.28->2.6.29, git 79d042a -> 58cf2f1 oer 17 -> oer 34 ;)
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  • [16:00:37] <hrw> hi Thomas
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  • [16:07:15] <mib_426050> hi all...why my BB give me "overrun!!! (at least 1588.134 ms long)" when I try to record some input audio stream?
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  • [16:09:26] <rcn-ee> zumbi, I bumped the version referenced in that example to something that isn't 2 months old. ;)
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  • [16:14:45] <zumbi> rcn-ee: thanks, i wonder why not just use a git clone <some_tree>
  • [16:15:27] <zumbi> rcn-ee: i had some trouble creating the tarball for 2.6.29, just hundred KB size :-/
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  • [16:18:08] <koen> denix0: looks like you can push your csets :)
  • [16:21:07] <rcn-ee> zumbi, that's a little weird, I'm not really a git expert, maybe git reset --hard and a git pull to fix your clone...
  • [16:21:17] <denix0> koen: :)
  • [16:22:31] <zumbi> rcn-ee: no, i meant to have the patches in a git tree rather a diff patch
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  • [16:23:25] <zumbi> rcn-ee: you already answered me... visit http://gitready.com/ :)
  • [16:24:14] <rcn-ee> zumbi, hopefully in another week or two.. http://rcn-ee.homeip.net:81/git/
  • [16:25:40] <rcn-ee> zumbi, fighting my firewall when i redirect the git ports to the server, all my local pc's lose git-clone from any outside source.. very weird..
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  • [16:27:43] <divs> hello
  • [16:27:53] <divs> anyone there?
  • [16:28:48] <divs> i have some questions related to using CCS with beagle board
  • [16:29:18] <zumbi> rcn-ee: sometimes git can be configured to use http instead, but it uses SSH ports
  • [16:29:45] <zumbi> s/ports/port
  • [16:30:55] <divs> @zumbi: do u have any idea about using CCS with beagle board
  • [16:31:46] <zumbi> divs: not on beagle board, i used sdcc on Microchip PIC
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  • [16:32:14] <zumbi> CCS is not free
  • [16:32:49] <divs> ok...
  • [16:33:24] <zumbi> divs: but go ahead and trigger your question maybe somebody know the answer
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  • [16:35:38] <divs> my question is: can we run an application on C64x+ processor without the depending on ARM
  • [16:36:00] <AV500> divs: yes, you just need to enable the DSP via the arm
  • [16:36:05] <divs> or do we first need to initialize the peripherals using ARM?
  • [16:36:24] <AV500> I guess the periphs the DSP can access it can also setup
  • [16:36:32] <AV500> not sure about clocks though
  • [16:36:41] <divs> hmmm
  • [16:36:44] <AV500> check the TRM
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  • [16:37:05] <divs> coz, i tried loading an application
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  • [16:37:22] <divs> on the DSP, but it says data verification failed
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  • [16:37:34] <pro-rsoft> rcn-ee, cool :)
  • [16:37:39] <AV500> DSP enabled? SDRAM setup?
  • [16:37:45] <divs> so was wondering if the memory needs to be initialized by ARM
  • [16:37:56] <divs> but how to set up the SDRAM?
  • [16:38:06] <AV500> GEL file? no idea
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  • [16:38:24] <divs> Even I dont know how to set up the memory
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  • [16:38:42] <AV500> well
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  • [16:39:12] <divs> do u have any idea?
  • [16:39:27] <divs> coz I spent the entire day googling
  • [16:39:46] <pro-rsoft> rcn-ee, wow, thanks. If I got my beagle board a week later I wouldn't have had all these issued :P
  • [16:39:58] <pro-rsoft> issues*
  • [16:40:01] <divs> and in some lists, they have mentioned that the memory needs to initialized using GEL but not how
  • [16:40:26] <AV500> yes, GEL file
  • [16:41:29] <divs> do u know how to setup DDR2 using GEL
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  • [16:41:34] <divs> ?
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  • [16:41:35] <AV500> nope
  • [16:41:56] <pro-rsoft> rcn-ee, why didnt you include the devmem2 step?
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  • [16:42:53] <divs> hmmm
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  • [16:42:59] <AV500> divs: AFAIK a GEL file is more or less a list of registers and what to write inside
  • [16:43:08] <divs> yup
  • [16:43:10] <divs> thats true
  • [16:43:20] <rcn-ee> pro-rsoft, you can add that since you have devmem2, but i'll need to write up a quick install step for anyone new...
  • [16:43:27] <AV500> so, write it the right regs what is needed to setup mem, check uboot et al for info
  • [16:43:32] <divs> but how to set it up so that the DSP can use it?
  • [16:43:43] <AV500> the mem? its the same mem
  • [16:43:44] <divs> uboot code?
  • [16:43:52] <AV500> yes
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  • [16:45:28] <divs> will try that out...
  • [16:45:30] <divs> thanks
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  • [16:53:36] <pro-rsoft|away> rcn-ee, its just a "gcc devmem2.c -o devmem"
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  • [16:54:40] <rcn-ee> pro-rsoft, laughs it's up now. ;)
  • [16:55:00] <pro-rsoft|away> :)
  • [16:55:16] <pro-rsoft|away> rcn-ee, wouldnt you rather put it in /usr/local/bin though?
  • [16:55:32] <pro-rsoft|away> ah well never mind. I prefer to keep my custom stuff in /usr/local/blah
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  • [16:56:22] <rcn-ee> pro-rsoft, i wasn't sure, where the 'proper' place is.. i'll move it.. just waiting for my jaunty module build to finish and that section is pretty much ready..
  • [16:56:32] <pro-rsoft|away> ah, ok :)
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  • [16:57:30] <pro-rsoft|away> rcn-ee, actually I dont mess with modules in my S60pvr.sh at all
  • [16:58:00] <pro-rsoft|away> rcn-ee, I just put the line "omaplfb" in /etc/modules and made sure sudo depmod -a was run after I installed the kernel modules
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  • [16:59:17] <rcn-ee> pro-rsoft, does sudo depmod -a setup the order?
  • [16:59:19] <pro-rsoft|away> yep
  • [16:59:21] <pro-rsoft|away> for me it does
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  • [16:59:42] <pro-rsoft|away> also, I dont recommend hardcoding the path to /usr/bin/pvrsrvinit
  • [16:59:52] <pro-rsoft|away> since people like to put it in weird locations (I put it in /usr/local/bin/ myself)
  • [17:00:08] <rcn-ee> pro-rsoft, very true
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  • [17:04:54] <divs> @rcn-ee and pro-rsoft
  • [17:05:13] <divs> have u worked on beagle board using CCS?
  • [17:05:40] <pro-rsoft|away> I have no idea what that is
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  • [17:06:02] <zumbi> pro-rsoft|away: a compiler for beagle DSP
  • [17:06:06] <pro-rsoft|away> ah
  • [17:06:17] <pro-rsoft|away> well I barely know what a DSP is, so... nope
  • [17:06:36] <rcn-ee> pro-rsoft, okay that worked, however what's the best way to load the modules in the S60pvr.sh? is just modprobe omaplfp fine?
  • [17:06:54] <divs> thanks
  • [17:06:56] <AV500> divs: why CCS and DSP only?
  • [17:07:00] <pro-rsoft|away> rcn-ee, I even omitted it actually and put it in /etc/modules
  • [17:07:17] <pro-rsoft|away> rcn-ee, but since im not sure if modules are loaded *before* rcS I recommend putting a "modprobe omaplfb" in the script, yeah
  • [17:07:19] <divs> coz i need to work on it
  • [17:07:34] <divs> and not supposed to use the arm side as of now
  • [17:07:39] <AV500> work? uni? hobby?
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  • [17:08:23] <divs> work
  • [17:08:50] <divs> but m not sure if DSP alone can be used or some initialization stuff has to be done from ARM
  • [17:08:57] <divs> I m new to this
  • [17:09:13] <zumbi> divs: i just hit http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard/DSP_Howto
  • [17:09:53] <zumbi> divs: probably you need to upload firmware to the DSP from the ARM kernel
  • [17:10:13] <zumbi> probably ARM kernel initializes DSP firmware
  • [17:10:56] <zumbi> divs: i have no idea on beagle, today is my second hacking day, my first day i got smoke on one chip, so i had to delay work on this device
  • [17:11:48] <muriani> ooh, magic smoke
  • [17:12:27] <AV500> zumbi: luckily there is not than one chip, so some smoke is left to operate the BB :-)
  • [17:13:08] <AV500> not->more
  • [17:13:58] <divs> @zumbi: I checked it out... but no where they have mentioned about CCS :(
  • [17:14:27] <zumbi> divs: CCS is not well supported by community as it is not a free tool
  • [17:14:42] <AV500> divs: if you just need to develop on C64x, there is pure c64x DSP evms from TI
  • [17:14:52] <AV500> e.g. http://focus.ti.com/docs/toolsw/folders/print/tmdsevm6424.html
  • [17:14:53] <zumbi> divs: but CCS is just a C compiler
  • [17:15:00] <AV500> and an IDE
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  • [17:15:04] <AV500> and a debugger
  • [17:15:39] <zumbi> AV500: i had to send a RMA for the magic smoke, lucky me they send it back fixed :)
  • [17:16:27] <AV500> how did you invoke the smoke?
  • [17:16:29] <mib_nztn4t> CSS is a pretty neat IDE for dsp work
  • [17:16:30] <divs> @zumbi: thats right... but applications can be developed on CCS, right? and you can load applications to the DSP using CCS
  • [17:16:49] <AV500> divs: yes, but you need a GEL file to setup the CPU
  • [17:17:03] <divs> i do have the default gel files
  • [17:17:08] <divs> coming with CCS
  • [17:17:14] <AV500> for the OMAP3
  • [17:17:16] <AV500> for the OMAP3?
  • [17:17:51] <denix0> koen: just in time for the git move... :)
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  • [17:18:28] <zumbi> divs: i am not sure about how to upload applications to the DSP. I would just think to embedded firmware into ARM kernel, but i am not sure how beagles works wih DSP
  • [17:18:41] <zumbi> AV500: i invoke smoke pluggin 12V
  • [17:19:05] <zumbi> AV500: OTG chip got burned
  • [17:19:30] <divs> @zumbi: ok...
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  • [17:20:25] <AV500> ah, the good old 12V method
  • [17:20:46] <khilman> koen: any guess what might draw ~70 mA on beagle when OMAP is off? (c.f. http://marc.info/?l=linux-omap&m=124283947917923&w=2)
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  • [17:21:07] <ali_as> Clock?
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  • [17:21:59] <divs> @mib_nztn4t: do u have any idea about CCS on beagle
  • [17:22:24] <koen> khilman: yes, let me dig up the link for that :)
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  • [17:23:31] <koen> khilman: http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/msg/6e98db4cbe2cebaa
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  • [17:23:49] <AV500> koen: damn, that was fast, I was still looking :-)
  • [17:24:34] <koen> AV500: search for "Russ Dill" in the googlegroups :)
  • [17:25:40] <Crofton|work> dvi framer?
  • [17:26:06] <AV500> koen: yes
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  • [17:27:53] <ds2> RS-232 xmitter
  • [17:27:57] <khilman> nice
  • [17:27:58] <ds2> LEDs
  • [17:28:05] <ds2> Xtal (26MHz)
  • [17:28:28] <ds2> 4030 stuff not setup right
  • [17:28:31] <khilman> too bad the only patch that made it to linux-omap was the GPIO one, which I merged a whiel back
  • [17:29:48] <koen> denix0: any plans to update the davinci git recipe to something newer like 2.6.30-rc2?
  • [17:29:59] <koen> denix0: I ask because vpfe5.patch fails to apply to that :)
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  • [17:33:11] <khilman> do Russ's changes w/o hwmods result in any savings?
  • [17:33:12] <denix0> koen: sure! we here use 2.6.30-rc5 (if not mistaken) and vpfe pathces are being updated as well
  • [17:33:45] <koen> khilman: yes, but his PASR stuff was in the 2mW range iirc
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  • [17:34:25] <koen> denix0: I'd like to get something newer running on the leopardboard, seeing that the aic3106 has a driver now as well
  • [17:34:28] <denix0> koen: also DA830 support is coming
  • [17:35:24] <koen> denix0: I'll start caring about DA830 once I know (non-TI) people that posses a board :)
  • [17:35:48] <denix0> koen: :)
  • [17:37:05] <koen> denix0: although DA830 is neat (sata!) I'm actually waiting for another SoC to make its way into production and onto my desk :)
  • [17:37:35] * zumbi just booted his first kernel at beagle
  • [17:37:53] <zumbi> do you know a ready downloable rootfs.jffs2
  • [17:38:03] <koen> eeew, jffs2
  • [17:38:04] <zumbi> to be flashed to the beagle?
  • [17:38:06] * koen uses ubifs
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  • [17:38:10] <denix0> koen: there are some good ones in the pipeline, as you know... :)
  • [17:38:30] <Prathap> hello everyone
  • [17:38:35] <zumbi> koen: is ubifs fast boot? or does it trigger nand_scan on every boot?
  • [17:39:05] <koen> zumbi: ubifs doesn't need to scan the whole partition like jffs2 does
  • [17:39:39] <Prathap> does anyone know how to enable swapspace under angstrom
  • [17:39:42] <ds2> koen: are you also a fan of LVM?
  • [17:39:47] <khilman> koen: thx! at least this confirms my suspicion that it is not the OMAP itself sucking power
  • [17:40:05] <koen> ds2: no, I'm to stupid for that
  • [17:40:17] <ds2> koen: then why ubi?
  • [17:40:23] <khilman> does russ hang out here?
  • [17:40:30] <ds2> in a lot of ways, ubi is just lvm for flash
  • [17:40:42] <ds2> khilman: yes, but he is finishing is masters so he is a bit occupied at the moment
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  • [17:40:47] <koen> khilman: he did, maybe he's on holiday or just busy writing down the results
  • [17:40:48] <Crofton|work> which russ?
  • [17:40:57] <Crofton|work> ah
  • [17:41:37] <ds2> wasn't the last time Russ was on that he mentioned his thesis thing got postponed cuz no one else was ready?
  • [17:41:47] <Crofton|work> urg
  • [17:41:50] <Crofton|work> that sucks for him
  • [17:42:29] <zumbi> anyway, is there any ready rootfs to test my beagle ?
  • [17:43:15] <koen> zumbi: http://angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/
  • [17:44:21] <zumbi> thanks, koen :)
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  • [17:45:06] <koen> denix0: I also updated gstreamer in .dev, so the gst dudes at TI should also be a bit happier
  • [17:45:45] <denix0> koen: thanks
  • [17:46:04] <zumbi> i am also wondering what is the best fs in terms of timing and not loosing data (ubifs(LVM based jffs2), jffs2 or yaffs). I have an impresion yaffs is very cool. I have also though of squashfs+aufs
  • [17:46:15] <koen> heh
  • [17:46:22] <koen> yaffs has more bugs than lines of code
  • [17:46:33] <Crofton|work> any chance someone at Ti could make a sample bb file to build something against dsplink :)
  • [17:46:37] <koen> even after google 'adopted' it for the droid stuff
  • [17:46:39] <zumbi> hehe, but could be the best approach
  • [17:46:55] <koen> Crofton|work: the ti-codec-combos recipe?
  • [17:47:00] <Crofton|work> heh
  • [17:47:06] <Crofton|work> yeah, I need to look there
  • [17:47:10] <zumbi> oh! google uses yaffs? i had no idea
  • [17:47:18] <Crofton|work> but I am also trying dsplink only approach
  • [17:47:27] <Crofton|work> too many things queued up at the moment
  • [17:47:52] <denix0> Crofton|work: I feel ya!
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  • [17:48:27] <koen> I've worked with the people behind yaffs, and they are idiots
  • [17:48:30] <Crofton|work> we are doing a tutorial in two weeks and showing how to use dsplink would be handy
  • [17:49:08] <AV500> Crofton|work: got some examples running?
  • [17:49:12] <zumbi> koen: aleph one? btw, your rootfs link does not load :-/
  • [17:49:50] <koen> yes, aleph one
  • [17:49:59] <koen> wooky and his pal marting guy
  • [17:50:00] <Crofton|work> just the existing examples
  • [17:50:23] <khilman> has anyone else done the hw mods russ suggested to confirm his resultss?
  • [17:50:37] <ds2> Google didn't have much of a choice... JFFS2 didn't support it
  • [17:50:38] <koen> if people did, they didn't mail the list :)
  • [17:51:01] <khilman> unfortunately, my hand isn't anywhere near steady enough to do those mods :(
  • [17:51:11] <ds2> khilman: it is on my todo list but I need a second board before I will risk it
  • [17:51:24] <khilman> me too
  • [17:51:25] <Crofton|work> heh
  • [17:51:29] <ds2> unfortunately, the potential EHCI issues are making me put it off
  • [17:51:38] * Crofton|work does 0201 resistors with reading glasses
  • [17:51:44] <zumbi> koen: i personally know wookey and he is very nice
  • [17:51:55] <Crofton|work> attaching the wire to the 240 pni FPGA took a microscope though
  • [17:51:59] <ds2> worse case, I visit someone with a proper microscope setup
  • [17:52:00] <Prathap> does any created swapspace & enabled it under angstrom.. if so can you please let me know the procedure
  • [17:52:08] <Crofton|work> zumbi, you need to apply a koen filter
  • [17:52:09] <zumbi> i read martin guy in some ML, he had some trouble sometime
  • [17:52:26] <zumbi> Crofton|work: sure, sorry
  • [17:52:27] <Crofton|work> wookey is a great guy
  • [17:52:28] <ds2> khilman: the LEDs are easy to pop out... the xtal shouldn't be an issue to swap
  • [17:52:41] <ds2> the RS-232 mod is a bit harder
  • [17:53:35] <Crofton|work> I really enjoyed wookey's talk on solar hot water heating at FOSDEM
  • [17:53:49] <Crofton|work> using an arm controller ....
  • [17:53:59] <zumbi> hehe, yes, the balloonboard
  • [17:54:04] <khilman> has anyone at TI expressed interest in those mods for the next boards?
  • [17:54:26] <Crofton|work> heh, I bet the TI guys ay to buy an evm :)
  • [17:54:28] <ds2> Gerald didn't seem that impressed when it was initially posted
  • [17:54:29] <koen> khilman: I think gerald said they weren't planning on such mods for revC
  • [17:55:03] <ds2> the xtal is a simple BOM change, not sure why that shouldn't be implemented
  • [17:55:26] <AV500> koen: khilman : they have to leave some stuff for the actual phone manfacturers :-)
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  • [18:02:02] <Prathap> does anyone created swapspace & enabled it under angstrom.. if so can you please let me know the procedure.. i am having problem in enabling it
  • [18:03:13] <cradek> seems unlikely that you should swap to flash
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  • [18:05:08] <Prathap> i created a swapspace on my SD as a 3rd partition but the swapon command doesnt seems to work on the angstorm
  • [18:05:34] <cradek> what error did you get?
  • [18:06:03] <Prathap> sh: swapon: not found
  • [18:06:09] <ds2> uh
  • [18:06:12] <ds2> *thwap*
  • [18:06:16] <cradek> heh
  • [18:06:36] <pro-rsoft> install "mount" package?
  • [18:06:46] <Prathap> ok
  • [18:06:57] <koen> Prathap: you need to be root to use swapon
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  • [18:07:11] <koen> Prathap: 'su -' and then 'swapon /dev/mmcblk0p3'
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  • [18:07:22] <Prathap> ok i will try being in root
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  • [18:08:01] <zumbi> koen: so, besides people behind the code and the buggy stuff, yaffs is ok. Well, even google has adopt it, i guess they are not in the wrong track
  • [18:08:03] <tor2> And remember 'mkswap' before first swapon
  • [18:09:07] <koen> zumbi: ubifs has all the traction for real developers
  • [18:09:13] <ds2> zumbi: Google choosed it cuz the alternative at that time did not work.
  • [18:09:29] <ds2> I doubt they choosed it because they liked it
  • [18:09:41] <Prathap> koen: tried from root still same result
  • [18:10:02] <koen> Prathap: is /sbin and /usr/sbin in your path?
  • [18:10:10] <koen> Prathap: I think you did 'su' and not 'su -'
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  • [18:10:28] <Prathap> koen: i did su
  • [18:11:01] <zumbi> koen: ds2: i'll try ubi once i boot my rootfs
  • [18:11:13] <zumbi> thanks :)
  • [18:11:20] <ds2> I am not advocating ubi :P
  • [18:11:31] <pro-rsoft> Darn. the sourcery STL lacks sys/mman.h
  • [18:11:36] <pro-rsoft> it has no mman.h at all
  • [18:11:42] <pro-rsoft> anyone recommends a crosscompiler?
  • [18:11:50] <ds2> crosstools?
  • [18:12:21] <pro-rsoft> thanks ds2. I'll try that one
  • [18:12:27] <zumbi> pro-rsoft: what distro do you use?
  • [18:12:33] <pro-rsoft> ubuntu, both target and host
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  • [18:13:06] <zumbi> pro-rsoft: if you debootstrap debian, you can use emdebian.org cross toolchains
  • [18:13:14] <pro-rsoft> debootstrap?
  • [18:13:18] <zumbi> pro-rsoft: another approach is codesourcery
  • [18:13:32] <pro-rsoft> zumbi, but the codesourcery one lacks mman.h
  • [18:13:39] <Prathap> koen: /sbin & /usr/bin was not there in path...add those and now it works.. thanks alot
  • [18:13:39] <pro-rsoft> or can I copy the STL from my target machine?
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  • [18:13:45] <zumbi> pro-rsoft: debootstrap --arch=XXX lenny lenny-rootfs
  • [18:14:06] <pro-rsoft> zumbi, replacing "lenny" with "jaunty" ?
  • [18:14:12] <ds2> this is confusing... STL is also the file format for the 3D printers....
  • [18:14:21] <pro-rsoft> I mean Standard Library something
  • [18:14:42] <Crofton|work> standard template library?
  • [18:14:46] <pro-rsoft> that yes
  • [18:14:48] <koen> Prathap: like I said, use 'su -', not 'su' :)
  • [18:14:52] <Crofton|work> c++
  • [18:14:59] <Crofton|work> the header file shouldn't have .h
  • [18:15:04] <tor2> Prathap: You should automatically get those in your path if you use "su -" If you just use "su" you won't get root's paths and stuff, you just inherit your (user) paths. So, do use root-only commands, use 'su -'
  • [18:15:05] * Crofton|work suspects
  • [18:15:15] <tor2> s/do/to/
  • [18:15:36] <pro-rsoft> zumbi, can I also copy the compilers and stuff from my target machine?
  • [18:15:42] <ds2> forget the silly path crap, just use the full directory path to it
  • [18:16:37] * tor2 can't disagree with that
  • [18:17:26] <Prathap> Koen & tor2: thanks i will make a note of it
  • [18:17:34] <zumbi> pro-rsoft: if the compilers are relocatable (e.g. use sysroot) and are same arch as your host
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  • [18:18:12] <ds2> zumbi: chroot + qemu can solve that :D
  • [18:18:32] <zumbi> pro-rsoft: http://www.codesourcery.com/sgpp/lite/arm/portal/release313
  • [18:18:41] <zumbi> ds2: true
  • [18:19:36] <pro-rsoft> zumbi, I already have that one but it lacks the mman files
  • [18:19:59] <zumbi> pro-rsoft: mman?
  • [18:20:13] <pro-rsoft> sys/mman.h < it lacks that header file
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  • [18:21:05] <pro-rsoft> oh wait I had a different one than your link
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  • [18:30:21] <Prathap> koen: even after enabling swapspace my i cant open any application other than terminal
  • [18:31:05] <cradek> do you get an error?
  • [18:31:45] <Prathap> i get segmentation error when i open any application
  • [18:31:57] <Prathap> other than terminal program
  • [18:32:30] <muriani> segfault, ouch
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  • [18:33:37] <Prathap> i am running high on memory...my swap is enabled but the system doesnt use it
  • [18:34:02] <Prathap> i am using 96M out of 106M
  • [18:34:22] <hrw> Prathap: what you run on it?
  • [18:34:53] <Prathap> angstrom demo from koen
  • [18:37:03] <Prathap> linux 2.6.28-r17
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  • [18:48:12] <hrw> Prathap: Mem: 109760k total, 74316k used, 35444k free, 21848k buffers
  • [18:48:23] <hrw> thats on my beagleboard with angstrom-demo image
  • [18:48:38] <Prathap> oh
  • [18:50:27] <Prathap> i used the files from this link http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/ is this the same u used
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  • [18:54:23] <Prathap> hrw: my mem: 109092k total, 97736k used, 11356k free, 12784k buffer
  • [18:54:39] <koen> hrw: I just proposed machine-kernel-pr for stable to make syncing omap kernel easier, any objections against that?
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  • [19:06:15] <hrw> koen: basically I do not like that stuff but I am not against
  • [19:08:44] <DJWillis> koen: I forgot the joy of blowing away OE temp and rebuilding, lots of nice GNU hash stuff that creaps out of the woodwork ;-).
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  • [19:27:57] <rob_k> Hi, did someone of you have problems with USB with new u-boot? New u-boot = built from OE sources (u-boot_git.bb)/
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  • [19:41:25] <eFfeM> DJWillis: there is joy everywhere :-) Just imagine the joy you'd get rebuilding oe on the 233 Mhz PII which I brought to the dump a few months ago.
  • [19:43:17] <koen> DJWillis: beagleboard-demo-image should build without errors, I keep track of that :)
  • [19:43:24] <koen> DJWillis: any news on the gl and quake stuff?
  • [19:44:45] <DJWillis> koen: sorry, forgot to send that on (been having a crappy few days, laying off 200+ at work).
  • [19:45:41] <koen> ouch
  • [19:45:57] <DJWillis> koen: yep, I just dumped the OE temp to keep track of the Pandora images, mostly SDL libs that need hacks for HASH, of and e2fsprogs_libs seems to have borked recently. Was that not updated a day or so ago?
  • [19:46:18] <koen> yes
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  • [19:48:10] <koen> heh
  • [19:48:25] <koen> some pandora nut says x264 is underrated for the pandora
  • [19:48:38] <koen> it an *encoder* for $deity's sake!
  • [19:48:51] <DJWillis> koen: any idea on the root cause of "ERROR: Exception:<type 'exceptions.OSError'> Message:[Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/oe/omap3evm-oe/tmp/work/armv7a-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/util-linux-ng-2.15-r2/install/e2fsprogs-libs-dbg'"
  • [19:49:19] <DJWillis> koen: I gave up talking to any nuts ;-)
  • [19:49:48] <koen> DJWillis: I haven't seen that error message yet, that's more up denix0's ally
  • [19:50:54] <DJWillis> koen: no probs, i'll look into it if it is not a known.
  • [19:55:25] <eFfeM> DJWillis: does the file exist ? (so is the error message faulty or is the file missing)
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  • [19:57:31] <DJWillis> eFfeM: sorry, the file is not there (so correct), just trying to work out why it thinks it should be ;-)
  • [19:57:48] <koen> you'll notice that hte 'file' is a package from another recipe
  • [19:57:58] <eFfeM> DJWillis: guessed the error was correct, but wanted to make it sure
  • [19:58:12] <eFfeM> koen, true
  • [19:58:24] <eFfeM> guess you might want to examine the recipe
  • [19:58:34] <koen> which looks like the sdk problem denix0 tracked down a few weeks ago
  • [19:58:43] * eFfeM cannot access his oe src dir right now
  • [19:59:57] <XorA|gone> koen: DPS support for encoding h264 would be cool
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  • [20:01:50] <DJWillis> koen: I guess that would explain why is it showing up on a clean build
  • [20:02:57] <koen> XorA|gone: already present :)
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  • [20:03:54] <XorA|gone> koen: cool, the we can network 100 beagles for realtime encoding :-)
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  • [20:55:55] <denix> DJWillis: which target are you trying to build when you see this error?
  • [20:56:24] <DJWillis> denix: oh hi, omap3-pandora.
  • [20:57:08] <DJWillis> not got the capacity at the moment to build sets for the OMAP3EVM and Beagle right now.
  • [20:57:38] <geckosenator> well I thought I was getting a pico projector from digikey
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  • [20:57:45] <geckosenator> instead they sent me a DIP8 part
  • [20:57:54] <geckosenator> labeled "pico projector"
  • [20:58:09] <Crofton|work> that is very un Digikey like
  • [20:58:14] <geckosenator> well
  • [20:58:17] <geckosenator> it's pretty lame
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  • [20:59:11] <DJWillis> geckosenator: what have they said? They are normally good at fixing fookups.
  • [20:59:20] <geckosenator> nothing yet
  • [20:59:24] <geckosenator> am I suppoed to email them?
  • [21:00:37] <denix> DJWillis: any specific images or just util-linux-ng?
  • [21:00:48] <geckosenator> I think I'm going to ask for some 10uF caps I need...
  • [21:01:01] <geckosenator> may be they will give them to me for their screwup they are like $2
  • [21:01:01] <Crofton|work> any dsplink gurus around?
  • [21:01:15] <Crofton|work> basically, which dsplink sample is best for
  • [21:01:31] <DJWillis> denix: if I just bake it on it's own I get the issue, that was against one of the Pandora tasks in our overlay however
  • [21:01:44] <Crofton|work> passing a block of data to the DSP (say 1024 pairs of 16 bit numbers)
  • [21:01:52] <Crofton|work> and waiting for a reply
  • [21:01:53] <denix> DJWillis: ok, let me try
  • [21:02:32] <DJWillis> denix: thanks, don't stress on my account however.
  • [21:09:42] <Crofton|work> my Angstrom boot seems to hang at Configuring ppp
  • [21:09:45] <denix> ah, I see. with the latest changes there is a library provided by both util-linux-ng and e2fsprogs-libs and that messes up pkgdata/runtime...
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  • [21:11:48] <DJWillis> denix: ahhh, so it's a real one then, normally half of them are my fault ;-)
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  • [21:15:31] <denix> btw, I was looking at SDL stuff lately too, so I may commit some fixes in that area soon...
  • [21:18:03] <DJWillis> denix: ahhh, good to know, I just have HASH fixes locally. I also need to make a recipe for the SDL 1.2.13 that is wired to work with OpenGLes
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  • [22:09:50] <koen> denix: dm357-evm has no kernel, is that intended?
  • [22:12:01] <Crofton|work> I think there was a note that the kernel is not ready yet ....
  • [22:12:33] <Crofton|work> kind of like OMAP4 commits with n o Si
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  • [22:48:27] <denix> koen: that's right, kernel support is still in the works
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  • [23:04:18] <koen> denix: ok, then it isn't just me lacking coffee :)
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  • [23:05:11] <denix> :)
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  • [23:14:00] <mib_iuksw6> what is the recommended jtag device for beagle board ? Does it have access to the DSP side ?
  • [23:17:10] <mib_iuksw6> http://focus.ti.com/lit/ml/sprp603/sprp603.pdf
  • [23:17:21] <mib_iuksw6> sorry I answered my own question.
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  • [23:19:02] <denix> DJWillis: which SDL you are playing with? x11 or fb?
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  • [23:57:38] <geckosenator> my beagle shipped today
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  • [23:59:10] <denix> geckosenator: are you sure it's not another DIP8 part?