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  • [05:26:16] <s0lid> http://phideux.org/docs/beagle_batt_1308_1B_2009-0421.pdf =)
  • [05:30:29] <ds2> s0lid: Nice, yours?
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  • [05:33:07] <s0lid> Nope
  • [05:33:23] <s0lid> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z80_jQTdX2g
  • [05:34:15] <ds2> a bit complex but nice
  • [05:34:18] <ds2> big board
  • [05:36:08] <s0lid> yup, it's nice :)
  • [05:36:35] <ds2> wonder why he made it that complicated
  • [05:38:57] <s0lid> Well there's controller for charcer and voltage booster so that's one reason
  • [05:39:41] <ds2> I did one that is smaller with simplier parts/simplier design
  • [05:40:03] <s0lid> k :)
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  • [05:40:48] <ds2> hand wired, with battery is a bit wider the a normal business card
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  • [05:41:08] <s0lid> got schemastic for that?
  • [05:41:42] <ds2> nothing postable... unless there are good reasons, my schematics are pen + 8.5x11
  • [05:41:46] <s0lid> But well that board is also good enought, unless there is some BGA chips... need to check packages
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  • [05:42:04] <ds2> let me show you the hand assembled board
  • [05:43:19] <ds2> http://www.hy-research.com/Li_power.html
  • [05:43:20] <s0lid> k
  • [05:43:47] <ds2> that one is different then what I used in the hand held (the hand held one takes a different approach for other reasons)
  • [05:44:23] <ds2> not complaining about his design, just want to understand why
  • [05:47:14] <s0lid> this seems like interesting project to make, i mean that more complicated one
  • [05:48:21] <ds2> is the code for the 430 posted?
  • [05:49:29] <s0lid> not yet, he'll post it later i assume :)
  • [05:49:40] <ds2> or that's the catch ;)
  • [05:51:43] <ds2> the up to 22V input is a nice touch
  • [05:52:38] <s0lid> yea
  • [05:52:54] <s0lid> possible to use an normal laptops recharger
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  • [05:56:36] <s0lid> but hell that'll will be expensive board... 4 ICs price is around 20-30e and there's even more ICs :|
  • [05:56:48] <ds2> heh
  • [05:56:59] <ds2> I am sure there is a good reason for it
  • [06:03:58] <s0lid> Eh, darn it... i need an bigger booster that can only provide 1A, in my application the powe comsumtion is around 1.5A - 2A
  • [06:04:40] <koen> good morning all
  • [06:05:04] <s0lid> morning
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  • [06:08:43] <s0lid> Ok, need to make that circuit more simple and use other booster chip
  • [06:13:31] <ds2> there are quite a few cheap boosters available that can do about 2A
  • [06:14:01] <ds2> the hardest part is finding a suitable inductor
  • [06:15:13] <ds2> arrgg... I hate deciding things... is there anyone else interested in a 8.9" LCD?
  • [06:15:22] <Animule> Hrm?
  • [06:15:35] * Animule might be
  • [06:15:55] <ds2> I think I found a source for some but 1. It must be imported (paperwork) and two it must be an entire lot
  • [06:16:01] <Animule> Also, /me is naked and wet.... just FYI
  • [06:16:18] <ds2> nice thing is it has data on it
  • [06:16:45] <s0lid> 8.9" WXGA panel?
  • [06:16:47] <ds2> Animule: bare panel or panel + adapter for beagle?
  • [06:17:01] <ds2> no, 800x600 or 800x480... not completely sure
  • [06:17:01] <Animule> Probably panel and adapter
  • [06:17:14] <Animule> seeing as how i'd need both anyways
  • [06:17:23] <Animule> adn either resolution is perfectly acceptable
  • [06:17:55] <ds2> hmmm...the other magic is to find out if I can do it with a CC or are they cash and carry
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  • [06:17:59] <s0lid> I'm goin to use N089A1 - L01 panel which costs 60?? + vat :)
  • [06:18:18] <s0lid> WXGA, single channel lvds
  • [06:18:22] <ds2> s0lid: you are on the other side of the pond near GMT +0/-0?
  • [06:18:52] <s0lid> yea GMT +2
  • [06:18:59] <s0lid> In Finland
  • [06:19:10] <Animule> do you know a guy with one leg?
  • [06:19:17] <Animule> because i know a guy with one leg from finland
  • [06:19:23] <ds2> that probally makes sense for you
  • [06:19:58] <Animule> anywho
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  • [06:20:02] <s0lid> hehe, no i don't know person with one leg...
  • [06:20:10] <Animule> "bring your kid to work day" tomorrow :[
  • [06:20:22] <ds2> oh...fun
  • [06:20:26] <Animule> yeah, i
  • [06:20:29] <Animule> m thinking not so much
  • [06:20:32] <ds2> get nothing done, turn it into a giant daycare
  • [06:20:38] <Animule> xactly
  • [06:20:42] <s0lid> http://beyondinfinite.com/lcd/Library/Chimei/N089A1-L01.pdf datasheet for that panel i were talking about ^^
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  • [06:23:47] <ds2> be interesting to see an interface board built
  • [06:23:57] <ds2> 2 possible ouches stand out
  • [06:24:44] <s0lid> LVDS interface board?
  • [06:25:20] <s0lid> It's pretty simple, TIs SN75LVDS83B needed, but well it's not available yet... not until june :|
  • [06:25:32] <ds2> make that 3 ouches
  • [06:26:01] <ds2> it isn't the LVDS part, it is routing the mess of signals out at 60-80MHz w/o getting weird shifts of colors, etc
  • [06:26:27] <ds2> that's 1, the other 2 are - CCFL and 18bit onlyy
  • [06:27:31] <s0lid> 18bit only? LVDS83B have support for 12bit, 18bit and 24bit modes and so does omaps lcd outputs or am i missing something?
  • [06:28:05] <ds2> the LCD datasheet suggests it is an 18bit LCD
  • [06:28:19] <ds2> but I do like the built in EDID support
  • [06:29:08] <s0lid> http://focus.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/sn75lvds83.pdf this is basicly same with LVDS83B but B model supports 1.8V signal inputs
  • [06:30:07] <ds2> I am not too concerned about the LVDS transmitter
  • [06:32:06] <ds2> s0lid: you making a PCB for it?
  • [06:32:14] <s0lid> CCFL, well need scavenge a backligth inverter from dead laptop
  • [06:32:39] <s0lid> lvds board? yea but not currently
  • [06:33:08] <ds2> I am looking at it from a low power standpoint and usually CCFL don't cut it
  • [06:34:02] <emeb_mac> know anything about this display: http://www.goldmine-elec-products.com/prodinfo.asp?number=G13752 ?
  • [06:34:27] <s0lid> yea, tho CCFL in this case uses only 3.16W
  • [06:35:21] <ds2> s0lid: be interesting to see how well it performs
  • [06:35:46] <ds2> emeb_mac: think earthlcd might also sell it and they have data
  • [06:36:50] <s0lid> http://www.datasheets.org.uk/pdf/567863.pdf here's data for that board emeb_mac
  • [06:37:00] <emeb_mac> thx
  • [06:37:14] <emeb_mac> Looks like earthlcd has it, but wants ~$60 for it
  • [06:37:35] <ds2> didn't say buy it there ;)
  • [06:37:38] <s0lid> Ok, looks like it's possible to hook up to lcd directly to beagleboards LCD connector :P
  • [06:39:02] <emeb_mac> kinda low res tho - 240Hx116Vx3color
  • [06:39:16] <s0lid> Data16-19 for Red0-3, Data8-11 Green0-3 and Data 0-3 for blue 0-3
  • [06:39:37] <ds2> 12bit LCD...yuck
  • [06:39:50] <emeb_mac> s/116/160/
  • [06:39:51] <s0lid> actually isn't that 9bit?
  • [06:40:13] <s0lid> oh yea 12bit :]
  • [06:40:22] <ds2> sizeof({0,1,2,3}) * 3 should be 12
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  • [06:44:44] <s0lid> Got one 17" RSDS panel here
  • [06:50:42] <methril|work> good morning
  • [06:51:20] <s0lid> morning
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  • [07:10:25] <ds2> Hmmm
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  • [07:29:00] <dusker> so what are my options for casing when it comes to the beagle board?
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  • [07:29:51] <ds2> custom, special computing, or a stock box and just drill out for connectors
  • [07:30:06] <ds2> custom is nicer of course
  • [07:31:17] <koen> raster: what's your opinion on running exquisite on shutdown as well?
  • [07:31:28] <koen> raster: the 2 minutes wait on shutdown is a bit annoying
  • [07:35:17] <ds2> didn't the Z had a painful shutdown?
  • [07:36:38] <raster> koen: oh.. i made it 30 seconds... and it SHOULD run
  • [07:36:41] <raster> it just segv's
  • [07:36:50] <raster> (whoich it doesnt on start or any other time you run it)
  • [07:36:59] <raster> i havent pushed my patches yet
  • [07:37:08] <raster> but i just dont know why on earht its segving on shutdown
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  • [07:58:42] <s0lid> Is it possible to make BB automaticly boot from SD/MMC?
  • [07:59:55] <koen> that's what it does by default with recent uboots
  • [08:01:37] <s0lid> ah ok
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  • [08:18:45] <ant_work> raster: ping
  • [08:18:46] <adj> and recent x-loaders even load u-boot by default from SD/MMC if it's found there
  • [08:20:03] <s0lid> ok
  • [08:20:40] <raster> ant_work: pong
  • [08:20:47] <ant_work> raster: morning
  • [08:20:56] <ant_work> back to psplash again
  • [08:21:26] <ant_work> I grepped for psplash-zap and fixed the hardcoded http://cgit.openembedded.net/cgit.cgi?url=openembedded/commit/&id=1a36b908f19f0511e66dde773cc6ef359c450a2e
  • [08:21:56] <ant_work> now I'm a bit lost...
  • [08:22:28] <ant_work> it seems psplash-zap +RECOMMENDS_${PN} = "psplash-angstrom"
  • [08:22:51] <raster> wh?
  • [08:22:57] <raster> isnt psplash-zap meant to remove it?
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  • [08:23:42] <ant_work> whathappens is psplash does not disappear...
  • [08:23:57] <ant_work> is not 'zapped' ;-)
  • [08:24:03] <ant_work> (console-image)
  • [08:24:04] <raster> sure
  • [08:24:08] <raster> the way it woudl work now is
  • [08:24:13] <raster> SPLASH=":
  • [08:24:15] <raster> SPLASH=""
  • [08:24:19] <raster> would zap splash
  • [08:24:21] <raster> :)
  • [08:24:34] <raster> no magic zap package needed
  • [08:24:39] <raster> (cleaner imho)
  • [08:25:57] <koen> raster: the zap package is there to close the splash when done booting
  • [08:26:18] <koen> raster: so you can see the text console to login
  • [08:27:19] <darnzy> Can someone help me with what kernel options do I need to enable to get kernel boot messages to appear on my beagle board? I'm connected to the serial port.
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  • [08:27:45] <darnzy> I get messages from X-loader and U-boot but not from the kernel.
  • [08:28:03] <adj> what bootargs do you pass to the kernel?
  • [08:28:04] <koen> console=ttyS2,115200n8
  • [08:28:17] <raster> koen: ooooh! i thought it was to remove psplash as a pkg!
  • [08:28:43] <raster> exquisitie will do it - if u tell it to timeout
  • [08:28:50] <raster> (well after a timeout)
  • [08:29:03] <darnzy> bootargs=console=ttyS2,115200n8 ramdisk_size=8192 root=/dev/ram0 rw rootfstype=ext2 initf
  • [08:29:35] <darnzy> I'm building from git://gitorious.org/u-boot-omap3/mainline.git
  • [08:29:58] <koen> raster: iirc is does psplash-write "DONE" or something like that
  • [08:30:07] <koen> raster: so it isn't using your splashfuncs stuff
  • [08:30:31] <darnzy> Not touching the default kernel config items for omap3_beagle_defconfig
  • [08:31:49] <ant_work> koen: the point is the console-image could be used with e.g. minimal distro...they would'nt accept an angstrom-psplash...
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  • [08:32:19] <darnzy> Kernel boot messages appear if I use www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/uImage but not with the kernel that I build.
  • [08:33:00] <ant_work> koen: just remove all?
  • [08:33:03] <raster> koen: aaah ok.
  • [08:33:12] <raster> koen: then it'd only work with psplash
  • [08:33:14] <adj> darnzy: is kernel really available from that git url? judging only by the name it seems like u-boot git repository, not kernel
  • [08:33:40] <raster> i would bet that if u wanted splash - u also want a windowing system
  • [08:33:47] <raster> if uw ant console.. no splash is the go
  • [08:33:49] <raster> right?
  • [08:34:08] * koen admires chameleonman running on his palo43
  • [08:34:12] <darnzy> Whoops. Sorry. Pasted wrong link. git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tmlind/linux-omap-2.6.git
  • [08:34:24] <koen> raster: psplash is nice to hide boot messages
  • [08:34:46] * koen pokes raster about the evas opengles engine
  • [08:35:18] <raster> koen: but you want the console after that?
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  • [08:35:49] <ant_work> koen: btw I'll add bootlogo to the production kernels too
  • [08:36:07] <adj> darnzy: defconfig should be enough. It's some time since I tried it (.27 I guess) but defconfig was enough to make a bootable kernel for beagle
  • [08:37:00] <ant_work> raster: well, if you build DEBUG...splash and logo are no-go..
  • [08:37:52] <adj> darnzy: you still may want to try kernel from OE as it has numerous patches for beagle
  • [08:38:40] <darnzy> adj: Do you have a link for the OE kernel?
  • [08:39:26] <adj> darnzy: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardAndOpenEmbeddedGit
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  • [08:39:57] <darnzy> adj: Thank you. I will give that a try.
  • [08:40:00] <adj> darnzy: bitbake linux-omap-2.6.29 will give you a good kernel
  • [08:41:47] <adj> (i still have _no_ idea where and how bitbake find a recipe for "linux-omap-2.6.2x")
  • [08:44:04] <raster> ant_work: correct. thus for debug SPLASH="" ? right?
  • [08:44:23] <raster> tho nosplash on the kernel boot params should turn it off too
  • [08:49:33] <ant_work> raster: we have now CMDLINE_DEBUG ?= '${@base_conditional("DISTRO_TYPE", "release", "quiet", "debug",d)}'
  • [08:50:01] <ant_work> we could add nosplash
  • [08:50:10] <raster> that would make sense
  • [08:50:22] <raster> this is for setting the default uboot env?
  • [08:50:34] <ant_work> is in linux.inc
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  • [09:30:44] <mib_chooii> does usb work on evm? i have connected a hub, keyboard, mouse and i dont see them being detected
  • [09:31:03] <mib_chooii> i am using 2.6.29
  • [09:32:34] <kulve> mib_chooii: are you using mini-a cable?
  • [09:33:37] <mib_chooii> yeah i am using a converted to connect to usb port
  • [09:33:56] <mib_chooii> for some reason it works on a rev c board and does not on a rev d board
  • [09:34:13] <mib_chooii> i have a old board (rev c) and a new one (rev d)
  • [09:34:41] <mib_chooii> kulve: what revision you hav got?
  • [09:39:14] <kulve> c
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  • [09:56:59] <hrw> morning
  • [09:58:26] <florian> good morning
  • [10:18:10] <mib_chooii> kulve: rev d usb works with TI linux-2.6.22 and not with git kernel
  • [10:18:28] <mib_chooii> i am missing something
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  • [12:36:19] <recalcati> morning
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  • [12:38:06] <recalcati> jkridner: did you see http://e2e.ti.com/forums/t/4956.aspx ?
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  • [12:56:53] <koen> sakoman: good morning!
  • [12:57:05] <sakoman> good morning koen!
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  • [12:58:25] <koen> sakoman: the sgx and dsp are working great on the new overo
  • [12:58:54] <koen> although I have some interesting observations on chameleonman slowing down every now and then
  • [13:00:36] <sakoman> koen: do you understand why the slowdown happens?
  • [13:01:16] <koen> it happens everytime when the X cursor peeps through
  • [13:01:49] <sakoman> ah, good clue!
  • [13:02:00] <raster> the x cursor will be done by a software routine
  • [13:02:08] <raster> in fact the way x does cirsors is utterly evil
  • [13:02:24] <raster> koen: how do the sgx drivers get pixels to the screen (window)?
  • [13:02:33] <raster> internally do they render to a mem buffer then xshmputimage to x?
  • [13:02:49] <raster> otherwise if they dont do that they are playing with fire drawing to the fb direct around x's back
  • [13:03:08] <raster> or there needs to be some dri/drm hooks between x's back-end driver and the sgx drivers so they can coordinate
  • [13:03:21] <raster> so either front-door (xshmputimage) or back-door (dri/drm)
  • [13:03:27] <raster> so any other way is just wrong (tm)
  • [13:03:28] <raster> :)
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  • [13:03:36] <koen> raster: no idea on that yet
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  • [13:03:48] <raster> hmm
  • [13:03:52] <koen> raster: another round of lawyers is looking at the sgx contract :)
  • [13:03:58] <sakoman> hi raster!
  • [13:03:59] <raster> well if u can find out how the sgx drivers get their pixels to x...
  • [13:04:01] <raster> that'd narrow it down
  • [13:04:07] <raster> sakoman: boo!
  • [13:04:19] <raster> but i can explain what haoppens going throug the front door
  • [13:04:37] <raster> (and i think back-door too - just how the pxiels end up int he fb is a different path, the next stage is the same)
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  • [13:04:56] <raster> what happens is x knows somehting just draw to the area of the screen where the mouse pointer is
  • [13:05:01] <raster> x then just does a really dumb thing
  • [13:05:06] <raster> it simpyl repaints the cursor on top there
  • [13:05:17] <raster> so every draw is draw stuff - thenx pastes cursor on top again
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  • [13:05:43] <sakoman> raster: did you ever resolve those init issues? I've been mucking about in u-boot for the last couple of days and haven't been paying attention
  • [13:06:04] <raster> (and if u have to get pixels from the fb just before the get x wipes out the cursor and copies a backing-store copy if saved before the paint of a cursor of that region of the screen)
  • [13:06:21] <raster> its totally evil and thats why software cursor sflicker so badly over animations/re-drawing bits of the screen
  • [13:06:47] <raster> sakoman: i'm a bit stumped on why expedite segv's only in the case when being called from init on shutdown/reboot
  • [13:06:53] <raster> it runs fine in all other cases
  • [13:06:54] <raster> on start
  • [13:06:56] <raster> any time
  • [13:07:00] <raster> run directyl from the cmdline
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  • [13:07:13] <raster> or from the init script just by executing the init script by hand
  • [13:07:23] <sakoman> strange!
  • [13:07:28] <raster> the problem is.. it segvs on shutdown.. but its pretty hard to debug.. as the system is in the middle of a shutdown
  • [13:07:37] <raster> i lose all consoles and ssh sessions
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  • [13:07:41] <raster> so i'm pretty SOL
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  • [13:07:49] <raster> i canjt really brute-force debug it
  • [13:07:51] <koen> expedite?
  • [13:07:57] <raster> so i need an epiphany as to why
  • [13:08:08] <raster> to some new way to debug
  • [13:08:11] <raster> koen: exquisite
  • [13:08:16] <sakoman> yeah, that makes it much more painful
  • [13:08:51] <raster> everywhere i run/try it.. it works just fine
  • [13:08:54] <raster> except in this 1 case
  • [13:08:58] <sakoman> I'm struggling with the other end of things in u-boot
  • [13:09:10] <sakoman> many similar debug issues :-)
  • [13:09:12] <raster> i assume you have a small army of jtag debug equipment?
  • [13:09:22] <sakoman> no, none at all
  • [13:09:25] <raster> really?
  • [13:09:26] <raster> \ouch!
  • [13:09:29] <sakoman> nope
  • [13:09:31] <raster> ok. now i see your pain
  • [13:09:57] <sakoman> One would think that the smc911x driver in u-boot woulds be fairly mature
  • [13:10:15] <hrw> sakoman: you do arm development without jtag?
  • [13:10:25] <sakoman> but it seems to suffer from quite a few really fundamental issues
  • [13:10:38] <raster> sakoman: hwo did you get yourself into the mess?
  • [13:10:43] <sakoman> yes, crazy isn't it ;-)
  • [13:10:58] <raster> sakoman: i would have thought u'd have jtag stuff out the wazoo
  • [13:11:03] <raster> i'm really a suerspace guy
  • [13:11:13] <raster> so for me jtag is something i pretty much can live without
  • [13:11:17] <sakoman> just o-scope and logic analyzer
  • [13:11:20] <raster> as long as i have a working kernel (and bootloader)
  • [13:11:20] <mib_dnigx5> can we debug kernel using jtag
  • [13:11:35] <raster> mib_dnigx5: u can debug anything with jtag
  • [13:11:40] <raster> it allows you to stop the cpu
  • [13:11:45] <raster> read/write to any memory location
  • [13:11:50] <raster> get/set register values
  • [13:11:54] <sakoman> I have networking pinging now, and I can tftp small files
  • [13:12:00] <mib_dnigx5> i debugged x-loader and u-boot with jtag
  • [13:12:01] <raster> jump to specific addresses to execute
  • [13:12:02] <raster> etc.
  • [13:12:07] <mib_dnigx5> but not kernel, i dont know how
  • [13:12:13] <sakoman> but if the file is 545 bytes or larger the transfer times out
  • [13:12:17] <raster> thats enough to pretty much low-level rawly debug anything.. if u like hex :)
  • [13:12:36] <sakoman> so I think the u-boot omap3 timer stuff might be broken
  • [13:12:48] <raster> sakoman: hmmm....
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  • [13:12:52] <mib_dnigx5> sakoman, i did not face that problem at all
  • [13:13:37] <sakoman> mib_dnigx5: lucky guy!
  • [13:13:52] <mib_dnigx5> probably i used a different u-boot
  • [13:13:59] <Crofton|work> raster, real men debug hw by watching the electrons flow
  • [13:14:05] <sakoman> I'm using top of tree
  • [13:14:12] <mib_dnigx5> so many u-boots floating around
  • [13:14:26] <sakoman> which one are you using?
  • [13:14:51] <mib_dnigx5> im using ti u-boot
  • [13:15:17] <mib_dnigx5> which is very old
  • [13:15:27] <mib_dnigx5> it works for us, so we use it.
  • [13:15:37] <sakoman> ah, they use a custom network driver
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  • [13:17:20] <mib_dnigx5> are you talking about u-boot smc driver timeout?
  • [13:17:41] <sakoman> yes
  • [13:17:47] <mib_dnigx5> it times out for us too. sometimes
  • [13:18:02] <mib_dnigx5> i thought you talking about jtag file download kernel timeout
  • [13:18:15] <mib_dnigx5> sorry
  • [13:18:22] <sakoman> no problem!
  • [13:18:44] <mib_dnigx5> but problem is not as severe as you make it out to be
  • [13:18:52] <mib_dnigx5> ;-)
  • [13:18:59] <sakoman> well, perhaps not for you!
  • [13:19:21] <sakoman> but most files of interest for me are bigger than 545 bytes :-)
  • [13:19:36] <mib_dnigx5> then how you download kernel?
  • [13:21:41] <sakoman> well, the idea is to add tftp to the number of ways one can load the kernel bits (in addition to nand, serial, mmc)
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  • [13:25:56] <mib_dnigx5> sakoman, thats very slow, you lose interest working like that
  • [13:27:16] <koen> nand and mmc are pretty quick on the beagle
  • [13:27:36] <hrw> tftp would be nice
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  • [13:27:49] <hrw> but how? over usb connected ethernets?
  • [13:30:14] * koen suspects sakoman i talking about overo+tobi
  • [13:30:33] <hrw> ah
  • [13:30:54] <koen> I should ask ddompe about the dfu patches again
  • [13:31:05] <koen> dfu over 480mbit usb would rock
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  • [13:36:34] * koen notices support for sdio dvb-t in http://linuxtv.org/hg/~pinchartl/uvcvideo/
  • [13:41:25] <Sinky> guys If I want to put rootfs.image from u-boot into nor flash with (erase flash, cp.b ...) .. then I want to load it into RAM with cp.b and boot it from RAM with bootm .. the fs should be EXT2 rigth ??
  • [13:41:51] <hrw> Sinky: you mean initrd?
  • [13:45:28] <Sinky> so hrw If I want to use the fs this way I should make it with mkinitrd command ?
  • [13:45:55] <hrw> Sinky: I never used initrd with arm and never made such one for other archs
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  • [13:48:25] * koen wouldn't let anything resembling ext2 near raw flash
  • [13:48:53] <hrw> koen: initrd is loaded from anywhere to ram and used from ram...
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  • [14:04:08] <Sinky> maybe if I do that I only need:
  • [14:04:09] <Sinky> setenv bootcmd 'cp.b ${ramdisk_flash_addr} 0x40C00000 ${ramdisk_size};bootm ${kernel_flash_addr}'
  • [14:04:09] <Sinky> setenv bootargs 'mem=59M console=ttyS0,115200n8 root=/dev/ram0 rw init=/linuxrc initrd=0x40C00000,18M'
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  • [14:18:35] <Sinky> hrw actually I should create it with genext2fs tool
  • [14:18:56] <Sinky> but cannot build more than 12 MB fs (but mine is 13) :(
  • [14:20:30] <sakoman> koen: you are correct, I am talking about Overo + Tobi
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  • [14:21:05] <sakoman> Lots of developers like to use tftp/nfs during development
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  • [14:21:28] <koen> I dislike nfs
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  • [14:21:41] <sakoman> I don't happen to be one of them, but it is always good to give folks what they want
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  • [14:21:59] <koen> your "product" will likely never use nfs, so I tend to test real life usecases (nand, sd) as much as possible
  • [14:22:08] <sakoman> Same here
  • [14:22:21] <sakoman> But to each his own . . .
  • [14:22:45] <koen> yeah
  • [14:23:00] <koen> I'm way too stupid to correctly setup an nfs server
  • [14:23:21] <sakoman> sadly I have to do it for testing, and I hate it every time :-)
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  • [14:31:13] <sakoman> hey dirk2!
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  • [14:32:32] <dirk2> hi sakoman
  • [14:32:48] <dirk2> sakoman: I wonder if you like to try U-Boot timer patch?
  • [14:33:14] <sakoman> I sure would!
  • [14:33:37] <sakoman> I think that may be the issue for my smc911x timeout problem
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  • [14:33:56] <dirk2> sakoman: yes, I saw the mail and was just about answering it ;)
  • [14:35:00] <sakoman> dirk2: do you have a patch, or is there one hiding on the u-boot list somewhere?
  • [14:35:16] <dirk2> sakoman: http://lists.denx.de/pipermail/u-boot/2009-April/051178.html
  • [14:35:43] <dirk2> sakoman: Do you want it as attachment?
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  • [14:37:58] <sakoman> dirk2: no, I've got it!
  • [14:38:18] <dirk2> sakoman: Too late ;) See your gmail inbox...
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  • [14:39:30] <sakoman> dirk2: thanks :-)
  • [14:40:01] <sakoman> dirk2: after I get smc911x working on overo I'll try to fix evm too
  • [14:41:49] <dirk2> sakoman: Good luck! I can feel your pain reading your mails at U-Boot list...
  • [14:42:22] <sakoman> I'm actually quite surprised at how many issues there are with smc911x
  • [14:42:36] <sakoman> I would have thought it to be quite mature by now
  • [14:44:56] <sakoman> so much for thinking, "ah I ought to be able to knock out the networking support in a couple of hours . . ."
  • [14:45:28] * koen experiments a bit with zoom and fontsizes on the palo43: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/c042a729cfdb3ba843cb996816d409d9.png
  • [14:48:36] <sakoman> koen: what are you using for text entry when using e-wm with palo43?
  • [14:49:18] <koen> vnc
  • [14:49:42] <sakoman> ah, that's cheating :-)
  • [14:49:58] <koen> indeed
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  • [14:51:11] <sakoman> rosetta segfaults with latest oe.dev
  • [14:51:38] <sakoman> on screen kb's seem to work fine
  • [14:51:41] <mib_dnigx5> does anyone here got a evm revision d board?
  • [14:51:56] * koen checks his evm
  • [14:52:14] <mib_dnigx5> i ordered recently
  • [14:52:23] <koen> I have a rev D
  • [14:52:29] <koen> (currently non functional)
  • [14:52:31] <mib_dnigx5> does usb work for you?
  • [14:52:41] <mib_dnigx5> oh
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  • [14:52:59] <mib_dnigx5> okay, let me rephrase, has usb ever worked?
  • [14:53:04] <sakoman> where do you look for the rev?
  • [14:53:16] <mib_dnigx5> close to the mmc slot
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  • [14:55:17] <sakoman> mine is rev D, and musb used to work for me
  • [14:55:31] <mib_dnigx5> git kernel?
  • [14:55:33] <sakoman> I haven't fired it up in a couple of months though
  • [14:56:00] <sakoman> I probably will later this week to do some u-boot work, so I will check then
  • [14:56:06] <mib_dnigx5> are you able to connect a usb hub?
  • [14:56:23] <sakoman> as of a couple of months ago, yes
  • [14:56:31] <mib_dnigx5> it detects usb hub, but when i connect keyboard, mouse, usb pen drive it does detect it
  • [14:56:47] <mib_dnigx5> what could be wrong?
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  • [14:57:32] <mib_dnigx5> sorry it does not detect the usb devices other than the hub
  • [14:57:47] <sakoman> are you sure your kernel is in host or OTG mode?
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  • [14:57:57] <sakoman> are you sure you have the right type of cable?
  • [14:57:57] <mib_dnigx5> i tried both
  • [14:58:02] <sam`> hi
  • [14:58:44] <mib_dnigx5> yeah, it works with a older evm board
  • [14:59:14] <sakoman> sorry, don't have any other ideas at the moment
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  • [14:59:24] <mib_dnigx5> have the connectors changed between the older (rev c) and the newer board (rev d)
  • [14:59:26] <mib_dnigx5> okay
  • [14:59:32] <sam`> i'm having a problem with the detection of an usb ethernet dongle in usb otg mode
  • [14:59:34] <sakoman> don't know!
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  • [14:59:51] <sam`> it is detected on every cold boot, but only once every two warm resets
  • [15:00:03] <sam`> and when disabling all PM, it is detected every time
  • [15:00:09] <mib_dnigx5> how much does a palo cost?
  • [15:00:09] <sam`> (linux-omap-2.6.29.1)
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  • [15:00:47] <sam`> have you heard of similar usb otg problems that could be related to PM (or not, maybe i'm on the wrong track here) ?
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  • [15:02:04] <koen> mib_dnigx5: check gumstix.com
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  • [15:03:39] <mib_dnigx5> $405
  • [15:06:40] <mib_dnigx5> koen: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/c042a729cfdb3ba843cb996816d409d9.png
  • [15:06:42] <mib_dnigx5> nice
  • [15:07:38] * koen could use some more pixels on the palo43 lcd
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  • [15:08:47] <mib_dnigx5> koen: are you running x.org on palo43
  • [15:09:33] <koen> yes
  • [15:09:48] <koen> kdrive has been declared dead last week by upstream
  • [15:09:56] <florian> urks
  • [15:10:13] <mib_dnigx5> yep
  • [15:10:24] <koen> all my kdrive bugs got closed
  • [15:10:43] <florian> very very bad
  • [15:11:19] <florian> I wonder if its worth to start a project maintaining it independently.
  • [15:11:41] <mib_dnigx5> i use kdrive cause i can build extensions, with xorg i cant
  • [15:11:42] <koen> the only thing missing in xorg is software rotate, but XorA said that's easy to add since the infrastructure is there already
  • [15:12:05] <mib_dnigx5> rotate and calibrate
  • [15:12:09] <koen> with xorg you can build extensions as well
  • [15:12:28] <mib_dnigx5> i could not get roatate and calibrate to work
  • [15:12:33] <XorA> koen: not software rotate, hardware rotate
  • [15:12:58] <mib_dnigx5> does xrandr work?
  • [15:16:19] <mib_dnigx5> koen: are you using xserver xorg 1.4.2?
  • [15:17:00] <sakoman> dirk2: hmmm . . . that patch does not apply to omap3-dev
  • [15:17:30] <lool> Hey folks, I was wondering whether some people are grouping to buy beagleboards in Europe, or whether there are some European resellers?
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  • [15:20:35] <florian> koen: Xorg is bloated :-(
  • [15:21:02] * florian wants a useful X on devices that are less powerful? then the Beagle
  • [15:22:12] <Ragha> koen, How about compositor for Kdrive?
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  • [15:24:30] <maelcum|lap> hi. what's the current situation with kernels?
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  • [15:24:53] <maelcum|lap> iiuc 2.6.29 is hopeless and the next -omap1 tagged kernel will be 2.6.30?
  • [15:25:23] <mib_dnigx5> i cannot keep up with the current pace, things get changed too fast
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  • [15:51:12] <mib_dnigx5> xora: is randr working with xorg?
  • [15:51:39] <XorA> mib_dnigx5: no
  • [15:52:21] <XorA> mib_dnigx5: given fbdev support for rotate, it shouldnt take too long to make work though
  • [15:52:43] <_don_> has anyone noticed an issue with S-Video output on the C2 boards? Color bars from u-boot are pretty wavy.
  • [15:52:48] <mib_dnigx5> xora: any sample code?
  • [15:52:58] <XorA> mib_dnigx5: openmoko git
  • [15:53:16] <mib_dnigx5> will do
  • [15:53:22] <mib_dnigx5> xcalibrate? the extention init was not being called, i called it, it does not make a difference it does not work
  • [15:55:19] <mib_dnigx5> xora: http://git.openmoko.org/?p=openmoko.git;a=tree;hb=HEAD ?
  • [15:55:39] <XorA> no the xorg driver
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  • [16:00:40] <mib_dnigx5> xora: going through a few of your old mails in open moko list. seems like it it a xorg.conf issue
  • [16:00:45] <mib_dnigx5> is it?
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  • [16:01:22] <XorA> mib_dnigx5: your on totally the wrong track
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  • [16:01:39] <XorA> mib_dnigx5: OM git contains a working xorg driver with randr support
  • [16:02:05] <XorA> mib_dnigx5: you just need to adapt for the specifics of omap3 fbdev if it support hardware rotation
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  • [16:04:35] <mib_dnigx5> xora: http://git.openmoko.org/?p=xglamo.git;a=blobdiff;f=src/glamo.c;h=bf8f4e62a64890dcf85f13aec6305bec1419bc80;hp=779af3404e826710894e322efe920522a97c8bc2;hb=4b380c2332f78368b1ea801c9488d5de39f4f488;hpb=5478688fc2e1c71e4426a7464e499cda91f432bb
  • [16:05:29] <mib_dnigx5> am i looking at the right place, i get lost easily
  • [16:05:34] <XorA> mib_dnigx5: http://git.openmoko.org/?p=xf86-video-glamo.git;a=commitdiff;h=0b537b064c59af7eff9a73f0bdc8fa58c93a4047
  • [16:06:26] <mib_dnigx5> xora: thanks, i will study that sources
  • [16:06:58] <XorA> mib_dnigx5: pleace do and we can kill kdrive forever
  • [16:07:05] <XorA> horrible monstrousity it is
  • [16:07:25] <mib_dnigx5> you say rotation needs to be done in hardware in the kernel
  • [16:07:31] <XorA> yes
  • [16:07:41] <mib_dnigx5> i thought it is done in software in the application layer
  • [16:07:49] <XorA> not in Xorg
  • [16:07:53] <mib_dnigx5> like kdrive
  • [16:07:55] <mib_dnigx5> okay
  • [16:08:11] <mib_dnigx5> how does it affect the touchscreen
  • [16:08:12] <XorA> there is little point rotating a 720p screen in software :-)
  • [16:08:30] <mib_dnigx5> who takes care of that?
  • [16:08:30] <XorA> unlike kdrive, Xorg shouldnt care which way round it is
  • [16:08:50] <mib_dnigx5> does the touch driver take care of this?
  • [16:09:01] <XorA> core should
  • [16:09:12] <mib_dnigx5> which core?
  • [16:09:18] <XorA> xorg core
  • [16:09:41] <mib_dnigx5> okay, it re-translates the co-ordiantes depending on rotation
  • [16:09:43] <XorA> if someone gets the OM changes to ts drivers into omap3 then we can even just use evdev driver instead of tslib
  • [16:10:20] <XorA> anyway I have to go
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  • [16:10:33] <mib_dnigx5> me too, thanks guys
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  • [16:12:31] <armin76> is the beagleboard able to use tftp on uboot, since it has no integrated eth?
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  • [16:23:29] <maelcum|lap> you mean after the kernel is loaded? if so, probably yes.
  • [16:24:38] <hrw> maelcum|lap: what for is use of tftp when kernel is loaded?
  • [16:24:59] <maelcum|lap> what do i know...
  • [16:25:25] * hrw uses tftp for downloading kernels but on devboards other then BB
  • [16:25:40] <maelcum|lap> so the answer to the question is in the u-boot documentation, i guess
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  • [16:31:03] <dirk2> sakoman: Seems you managed to apply it: http://www.sakoman.net/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=u-boot-omap3.git;a=commit;h=39c3c599ab3ff346e5f9cce3b7eb577b59c8d14d
  • [16:31:09] <armin76> maelcum|lap: no, on uboot
  • [16:31:30] <armin76> to load the kernel, obviously :P
  • [16:35:28] <xander85> can someone help me with a quick compile question?
  • [16:35:43] <sakoman> dirk2: yes, needed to do a merge with upstream first
  • [16:35:56] <dirk2> sakoman: ah ;)
  • [16:36:59] <xander85> i compiled a kernel source using: make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=/home/remotevs/CodeSourcery/Sourcery_G++_Lite/bin/arm-none-linux-gnueabi- uImage
  • [16:37:05] <dirk2> sakoman: And? Does it help network?
  • [16:37:09] <xander85> but it doesn't create a uImage file, just Image and zImage
  • [16:37:22] <xander85> i tried renaming Image to uImage.bin and booting but it says wrong image format
  • [16:38:15] <sakoman> dirk2: on a phone call, will test when I get off
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  • [16:43:27] <xander85> can anyone help with my compile question?
  • [16:43:37] <xander85> i have a feeling im very close but missing somethign basic
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  • [17:13:13] * koen laughs at the "xorg is bloated" fud. The difference is about 1MB uncompressed disk space, without tweaking xlib and xserver for size
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  • [17:13:29] <koen> and xorg even uses less ram for some weird reason
  • [17:14:14] <hrw> xander85: you need mkimage from u-boot
  • [17:19:02] <hrw> koen: can you ack task-base patch for stable?
  • [17:21:28] <xander85> koen: do i put that file in the kernel root when compiling?
  • [17:21:41] <xander85> or on the mmc card when booting?
  • [17:22:32] <koen> hrw: sure, let me load up thunderbird :)
  • [17:24:57] <xander85> or is that a package i need to install
  • [17:26:00] <hrw> thx
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  • [17:35:28] <koen> xander85: use openembedded to compile a kernel, much less work
  • [17:36:34] <xander85> it seems to be working the way im doing it now, but i dont have much experience (any really) with oe so i havent tried it yet
  • [17:36:40] <xander85> but im gonna see if i can dive into it today
  • [17:36:49] <xander85> this way does take a lot of wor
  • [17:36:50] <xander85> k
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  • [17:39:17] <sradhakrishna> hi. a quick question.
  • [17:39:32] <sradhakrishna> i was trying to get the demo angstrom working on beagle,
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  • [17:40:01] <sradhakrishna> and was following the instructions on the wiki
  • [17:40:35] <sradhakrishna> i was trying to get the nand flashed as instructed in http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/BeagleNANDFlashing
  • [17:40:58] <sradhakrishna> and I happened to turn off the power before completing the procedure.
  • [17:41:08] <sradhakrishna> the steps i had completed were to erase the nand,
  • [17:41:32] <sradhakrishna> loading x-load.bin.ift
  • [17:42:08] <hrw> auch
  • [17:42:10] <sradhakrishna> the stage i hadn't completed was to flash flash-uboot.bin
  • [17:42:26] <sradhakrishna> is there a way i can reset the nand contents
  • [17:42:34] <sradhakrishna> or restart the flash procedure?
  • [17:43:41] <hrw> I lack knowledge to answer that. others can
  • [17:47:25] <koen> sradhakrishna: type 'recovery' into the searchbox on beagleboard.org, it's the 3rd link on the result page
  • [17:47:29] <MrBIOS> hm
  • [17:47:39] <MrBIOS> having a tough time computing geometry for my SD card
  • [17:47:43] <MrBIOS> I must be doing the math wrong
  • [17:47:50] <MrBIOS> following http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/LinuxBootDiskFormat
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  • [17:48:16] <sradhakrishna> thanks koen!
  • [17:48:20] <MrBIOS> I wind up with 489 cylinders but the max size is 255
  • [17:48:21] <sradhakrishna> will check the recovery part.
  • [17:48:38] <ds2> uh
  • [17:48:58] <ds2> 255 heads, cyl. should be able to go up to about 65K
  • [17:49:05] <ds2> (decimal K)
  • [17:49:15] <MrBIOS> 4024958976/ 255 / 63 / 512
  • [17:49:46] <koen> mru: which binutils version are you using? 2.18?
  • [17:49:58] <ds2> 489 should be fine
  • [17:50:29] <MrBIOS> ah ok just misread the example
  • [17:50:29] <ds2> check your s/h/c to make sure you are putting in the right things for the right field
  • [17:50:29] <MrBIOS> :)
  • [17:50:53] <sradhakrishna> koen: will the recovery mlo procedure work with rev b6 boards as well?
  • [17:51:34] <koen> it works with al omap3 chips
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  • [18:03:58] <dirk2> koen: Sorry if I missed anything, what do you mean with "omapzoom will get deprecated the next few weeks"?
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  • [18:10:53] <koen> dirk2: all kernel dev should move to tonies tree
  • [18:11:00] <koen> dirk2: at least, that's what I heard
  • [18:11:06] <sradhakrishna> am trying to use mlo_restore to reset my nand flash. However, when i power on the beagle, it comes up with http://widget.mibbit.com/pb/EJ4syx
  • [18:11:35] <sradhakrishna> i don't seem to be booting into mmc - is that a right diagnosis?
  • [18:11:43] <sradhakrishna> i am pressing user button when the power is reset.
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  • [18:11:56] <sradhakrishna> that doesn't seem to help.
  • [18:12:01] <sradhakrishna> any pointers?
  • [18:12:10] <ds2> then your SD card is of suspect.
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  • [18:14:48] * dirk2 can't find any OMAP4 related U-Boot stuff (e.g. omap4430sdp.h) at http://git.omapzoom.com/?o=project :(
  • [18:15:07] <dirk2> koen: l-o vs omapzoom: ok, lets see ;)
  • [18:16:22] <koen> dirk2: omap4 uboot is still at 1.1.4
  • [18:17:05] <dirk2> koen: I hoped to find it in http://git.omapzoom.com/?p=repo/u-boot.git;a=summary
  • [18:17:23] * dirk2 wonders why they develop kernel there, but not U-Boot
  • [18:18:18] <koen> omap4 kernel dev will move to l-o git as well
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  • [18:26:20] <xander85> koen do u have a min for another question?
  • [18:26:57] <xander85> I was able to compile my kernel and I get a uImage file, it is 1.6MB and it starts to boot on the BB but sits at "Loading Kernel Image..."
  • [18:27:17] <hrw> xander85: wrong UBOOT_ENTRYPOINT
  • [18:27:25] <hrw> xander85: I had that with BUG today
  • [18:27:32] <koen> hrw: CPU_FEATURES?
  • [18:27:47] <xander85> hrw: so reload u-boot?
  • [18:27:58] <xander85> i think it is trying to load from NAND because I was trying to get that to work before
  • [18:28:10] <hrw> xander85: no, fix use of mkimage
  • [18:28:19] <hrw> koen: good catch - leftover from Poky
  • [18:28:35] <hrw> koen: in Poky we had CPU_FEATURES which controlled vfp and thumb
  • [18:29:00] <hrw> koen: for x86 no one used it but it could be used for mmx/sse/etc crap
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  • [18:31:54] <xander85> hrw: so change a parameter in mkimage before recompiling?
  • [18:32:04] <xander85> im a newbie, sorry. i just got mkimage installed
  • [18:32:11] <hrw> xander85: use OE then
  • [18:32:29] <xander85> to compile uImage?
  • [18:32:50] <hrw> xander85: and use can use mkimage after compilation of kernel - it only adds header
  • [18:32:54] <hrw> iirc
  • [18:33:43] <xander85> what would be the command I would use for mkimage after compiling with the right parameters? is there a tutorial somewhere on that
  • [18:33:54] <sradhakrishna> folks - i guess i will need help here. i have formatted the partition, copied MLO_restore as MLO, u-boot.bin and uImage in that order
  • [18:34:12] <sradhakrishna> and reset the beagle board, while keeping the user button pressed.
  • [18:34:20] <hrw> xander85: no idea - I use OE
  • [18:34:33] <sradhakrishna> yet, I see this output on minicom - http://widget.mibbit.com/pb/X3z1xc
  • [18:34:46] <sradhakrishna> how do I go about fixing my NAND?
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  • [18:34:55] <xander85> hrw: to confirm, I can use OE to build the linux kernel source and compile a uImage?
  • [18:35:11] <hrw> yes
  • [18:35:13] <xander85> in the same way I'm doing now with the CodeSourcery tools
  • [18:35:14] <xander85> ok
  • [18:35:18] <hrw> xander85: thats how Angstrom is built
  • [18:35:28] <xander85> ok ill figure it out
  • [18:35:31] <xander85> hopefully haha
  • [18:36:12] * koen still hasn't tried csl 2009q1
  • [18:37:05] <xander85> or can I change some parameter in u-boot now to get my image to load?
  • [18:38:03] <hrw> no
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  • [18:39:23] <koen> xander85: you're also missing a lot of patches and the deconfig from the angstrom kernel
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  • [18:39:51] <koen> koen@dominion:/OE/org.openembedded.dev$ grep patch recipes/linux/linux-omap_2.6.29.bb | wc -l
  • [18:39:54] <koen> 122
  • [18:40:04] <koen> one hundred and twenty two patches at this moment
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  • [18:41:39] <xander85> with OE, do I compile the kernel image first and then use OE to create everything or can I use like "make menuconfig" on my kernel before compiling with OE
  • [18:41:39] <xander85> I'm not sure how to use a custom kernel with OE
  • [18:41:59] <koen> MACHINE=beagleboard bitbake virtual/kernel
  • [18:42:12] <koen> and after a while you'll have a working uImage
  • [18:42:21] <koen> get that working first before trying to modify anything
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  • [18:43:47] <florian> re
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  • [18:53:39] <hrw> do we have some picture viewer for raw framebuffer?
  • [18:54:39] <hrw> no directfb etc.. something more like psplash with loading of png/jpeg images
  • [18:56:48] <koen> like fbv?
  • [18:57:21] <hrw> for example
  • [18:57:35] <hrw> koen: what provides it?
  • [18:59:21] <koen> fbv
  • [18:59:36] * koen was planning to add it a while back but never got to it
  • [19:00:30] <hrw> I got recipe/patch from Tartarus
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  • [19:19:07] <hrw> koen: thx
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  • [19:49:12] <sradhakrishna> does the procedure given at http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardRecovery#USB_recovery hold good for rev b6?
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  • [19:52:52] <MrBIOS> I dont have a serial console ability with my bb at the moment, any other way to get it to boot off SD in a one-off fashion?
  • [19:53:13] <MrBIOS> I just made my SD card per the tutorial
  • [19:54:23] <DJWillis> MrBIOS: recent U-Boot on the NAND? Using a bootable SD or a regular SD with boot.scr?
  • [19:57:44] <koen> DJWillis: good morning!
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  • [20:07:05] <w1x> howdy
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  • [20:08:24] <hrw> bye
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  • [20:11:16] <MrBIOS> DJWillis: bootable SD
  • [20:11:32] <MrBIOS> fat32 partition and remaining 4GB dedicated to Angstrom linux
  • [20:11:49] <MrBIOS> I have no idea if the u-boot is recent, probably not, it's a brand new board I just got from digi-key yesterday
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  • [20:12:35] <w1x> is the new beagle out?
  • [20:12:37] <w1x> with fixed usb
  • [20:12:38] <w1x> ?
  • [20:15:26] <GregorR> YAY my new C2 has working USB!
  • [20:15:29] <GregorR> Also yes, w1x :P
  • [20:15:47] <w1x> ah cool
  • [20:15:54] <w1x> i got an old one, had to hack up a cable for it
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  • [20:16:06] <w1x> bit bummed aboutthat
  • [20:16:26] <MrBIOS> DJWillis: this is RevC2
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  • [20:20:42] <DJWillis> MrBIOS: well the C2/C3 has a recent U-Boot in NAND IIRC so a simple suitable boot.scr on the FAT partition of your SD card and uImage etc. should do the job. Can't say for sure (my Beagle's are early Rev B's)
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  • [20:23:36] <MrBIOS> ok cool thanks
  • [20:26:18] <GregorR> YESSSSSSSSSSSSS
  • [20:26:23] <GregorR> I HAVE A BEAGLE SCREEN ON MY HEADSET
  • [20:26:25] * GregorR is very happy
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  • [20:30:48] <mru> hi all
  • [20:30:56] <mru> koen: you were asking about binutils versions
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  • [21:04:03] <MrBIOS> DJWillis: trying to get Angstrom to boot and cant seem to find the right boot.scr file
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  • [21:20:33] <Crofton|work> OK, I think I have mastered verilog
  • [21:20:39] <Crofton|work> well, not really :)
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  • [21:21:41] <mru> Crofton|work: wow, not many people make that claim ;-)
  • [21:21:53] <Crofton|work> heh
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  • [21:22:13] <Crofton|work> I can toggle the SPI input pin based on the number of clocks it sees ....
  • [21:22:23] <likewise> Crofton|work: nice!
  • [21:22:50] <mru> btw, I've received some info about codesourcery 2009q1
  • [21:22:57] <mru> apparently it's being held back due to bugs
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  • [21:27:55] <maelcum> no wai!
  • [21:28:21] <maelcum> do they attempt to ship 4.4 or still 4.3.x?
  • [21:28:28] <mru> 4.3.3
  • [21:28:39] <mru> with extra bugs
  • [21:28:41] <maelcum> if they can't fix 4.3.x the bugs must have been really bad. huh.
  • [21:28:50] <maelcum> you mean new bugs?
  • [21:28:51] <mru> 4.3.3 is pretty bad
  • [21:29:03] <mru> I don't have details
  • [21:29:29] <maelcum> the debian-patched versions that i use (on x86) work quite well
  • [21:29:46] <mru> I'd expect x86 to be the least buggy
  • [21:29:53] <mru> since that's what most people use
  • [21:33:21] <MrBIOS> what's this "CDC Composite Gadget" I'm seeing? on the host pc my beagleboard is attached to, when booting Angstrom?
  • [21:33:59] <mru> it's serial port and ethernet gadgets combined
  • [21:34:16] <MrBIOS> so its exporting an ethernet interface out over USB-OTG?
  • [21:34:32] <mru> it appears to the pc as a usb-ethernet adaptor
  • [21:34:40] <mru> and a usb-serial port
  • [21:34:43] <MrBIOS> I see
  • [21:34:44] <MrBIOS> :)
  • [21:35:20] <mru> iirc it's possible to put the console on the emulated serial port
  • [21:35:33] <MrBIOS> it shows as a usb modem in OS X, amusingly
  • [21:35:42] <mru> cdc acm?
  • [21:36:59] <MrBIOS> not sure
  • [21:37:30] <MrBIOS> when I connect a USB HID keyboard to the USB host port, I get nothing on my rev C2 board
  • [21:37:50] <MrBIOS> Angstrom has booted into X and is sitting at the New User Details page, though
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  • [22:05:51] <ssvb> MrBIOS: according to RevC manual, you need to use USB hub: "The HS USB Port is HS only. In order to support a FS/LS device, a HUB must be used."
  • [22:08:56] <ssvb> MrBIOS: at least this worked for me, I'm setting up the system on my new just out of the box beagleboard at the moment too :)
  • [22:09:06] <MrBIOS> ok, got one at home :)
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  • [22:25:18] <MrBIOS> ssvb: good to know, we're talking about the USB-A Port, P7, yes?
  • [22:25:26] <MrBIOS> I'm still getting bupkis with a USB 2.0 hub
  • [22:25:49] <mru> is it a high-speed hub?
  • [22:25:58] <mru> or just one that's usb 2.0 compatible?
  • [22:26:05] <mru> at low/full speed?
  • [22:26:11] <MrBIOS> no freakin clue :)
  • [22:26:14] <mru> yes, such things exist
  • [22:26:17] <MrBIOS> its a generic vantec
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  • [22:29:58] <MrBIOS> mru: when I plug it in on my OLPC, it says "usb 1-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 6"
  • [22:30:08] <MrBIOS> so presumably its full speed. The keyboard is then identified as low speed
  • [22:30:30] <mru> that's high speed, which is what you want
  • [22:30:35] <mru> full speed is 12Mbps
  • [22:30:46] <mru> brilliant terminology
  • [22:30:49] <MrBIOS> can I not power the board over USB-OTG when using the HS port?
  • [22:31:06] <mru> you'll need to power the hub externally
  • [22:31:12] <MrBIOS> it is
  • [22:31:16] <MrBIOS> but that's not what I asked
  • [22:31:44] <mru> if you power the beagle through the otg port, anything connected to ehci needs its own power source
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  • [22:33:39] <MrBIOS> the hub is powered, as I said
  • [22:34:05] <mru> then you should be fine
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  • [23:14:08] <MrBIOS> mru: how does one go about adding a custom resolution within X in Angstrom?
  • [23:14:26] <mru> don't know, ask koen
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  • [23:35:26] <richardw> richardw: check
  • [23:35:50] <richardw> mru: fancy gadgets are useful
  • [23:35:57] <mru> of course they are
  • [23:36:01] <mru> they are also expensive
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  • [23:36:42] <richardw> seems like there are some cheaper jtags about.
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