• [00:00:10] <Crofton|work> I think the beagle board guys may handle problem boards
  • [00:00:16] <Crofton|work> they appear to have been real good
  • [00:00:21] <GregorR> Oh, OK.
  • [00:01:05] <GregorR> discussion@beagleboard.com , that one?
  • [00:01:33] <Crofton|work> beagleboard@googlegroups.com
  • [00:01:58] <GregorR> Okiday, thanks
  • [00:02:11] <Crofton|work> I need to clean up the mess
  • [00:02:19] <Crofton|work> that is my desk
  • [00:02:39] <Crofton|work> +
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  • [00:10:25] <got-beagle> got my beagle today!!! not i just have to read the 197 page doc and i should be fine!
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  • [00:13:34] <GregorR> If you don't go over every last word of it with a fine-toothed comb, you will blow up your beagle.
  • [00:14:21] <Russ> GregorR: did you plug 12V into your beagle?
  • [00:14:30] <GregorR> No :P
  • [00:14:42] <GregorR> That was a sarcastic remark :P
  • [00:14:43] <ali_as> That includes the writing thats upside down and in cuniform.
  • [00:16:13] <ZeZu> well you wouldn't be the first person if you did
  • [00:16:23] <Russ> bah, its the 3427 page OMAP34xx TRM and 925 TWL4030 TRM that are the important bits
  • [00:16:25] <ZeZu> and i sure didn't read the manual of 197 pages, (what manual? :)
  • [00:16:31] <GregorR> I'll bet DigiKey wouldn't give me a new one if I did :P
  • [00:16:31] <ZeZu> haha
  • [00:16:40] <ZeZu> digikey sure wouldn't
  • [00:16:50] <ZeZu> they'd send you to beagle guys
  • [00:17:16] <ZeZu> anyhow, i just read the stuff on elinux
  • [00:17:38] <GregorR> I was reaaaally nervous about plugging in this AC adapter I'm using now.
  • [00:17:55] <ZeZu> eh i just tested the one i use with a multimeter and plugged it right in
  • [00:18:04] <Russ> ZeZu: same
  • [00:18:07] <GregorR> What is it with everybody and their dog having a multimeter.
  • [00:18:13] <ali_as> You are braver than I am, I'm powering with USB.
  • [00:18:17] <Russ> its that they cost $5 at ratshack
  • [00:18:18] <ZeZu> my dog doesn't have one
  • [00:18:21] <ZeZu> but they are dirt cheap
  • [00:18:23] <ZeZu> so why not ?
  • [00:18:32] <GregorR> No Radio Shack around here :P
  • [00:18:34] <ZeZu> esp if you mess with electrical or electronics .. its kindof a must have
  • [00:18:37] <ali_as> btw, you disconnected the power from the USB port, right?
  • [00:18:38] <GregorR> Which I don't.
  • [00:18:39] <GregorR> Ever.
  • [00:18:52] <ZeZu> well then usb cable i'd suggest :)
  • [00:18:59] <Russ> ali_as: it automatically turns that LDO off when you plug into the DC port
  • [00:19:14] <ali_as> Ahh, cool.
  • [00:19:28] <GregorR> In fact, it stops receiving power by USB if there's even a plug in the barrel socket, regardless of whether it has power.
  • [00:19:37] <ali_as> I have a few dual power boards here that you have to remove a link or else ;)
  • [00:19:45] <Russ> you'd know that if you read the cuniform
  • [00:20:22] <ali_as> I'm only as far back as linear B but I will learn it I promise!
  • [00:21:19] <GregorR> You'd better study up on your ancient Egyptian; both Hieroglyphics and Hieratics, no laziness here.
  • [00:22:38] <mib_z8vih1> russ: the linux-omap kernel boots.. but some reason my console went to the monitor display ~.~
  • [00:23:07] <ali_as> Can I skip coptic? I mean it's only a christian variation? Please?
  • [00:23:20] <Russ> mib_z8vih1: then perhaps your problem is that you just don't have a console=... in your command line
  • [00:23:40] <GregorR> ali_as: The coptic section has all been rewritten in Sanskrit.
  • [00:23:46] <mib_z8vih1> russ: i have console=ttyS3,115200n8 noinitrd root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootfstype=ext3 init=/init rootdelay=2
  • [00:23:56] <GregorR> ali_as: Y'know, modernization and whatnot.
  • [00:23:58] <ali_as> I'll be thankful for small mercies.
  • [00:24:14] <Russ> mib_z8vih1: odd
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  • [00:25:14] <mib_z8vih1> russ: but it did get pass the booting linux part.. which i'm kinda stuck at with the TI kernel.. now i gotta figure out how to fix the TI kernel so it boots on rev C boards =(.. this will be tough.
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  • [00:28:55] <mib_z8vih1> russ: i wonder what the delta's are between rev B and rev C board other than the USB and omap es 3.0. i thought most of everything was the same
  • [00:29:08] <GregorR> More memory too
  • [00:29:16] <mib_z8vih1> gregorR: true true
  • [00:32:03] <Russ> maybe its a uboot version issue?
  • [00:32:15] <ds2> Russ: I doubt that is the case
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  • [00:32:29] <ds2> I have it partially fixed in an older TI kernel
  • [00:32:35] <ds2> or TI based kernel I should say
  • [00:32:41] <Russ> don't listen to ds2, he's only driven by his own selfish profit motives :)
  • [00:32:56] <ds2> Russ: okay
  • [00:33:35] <ds2> if it was a personal project I'd look at it differently
  • [00:34:43] <mib_z8vih1> ds2: its a low cost project for the maker fair. So i'm making like almost zip from it
  • [00:35:03] <ds2> anyways
  • [00:35:30] <ds2> as requested, I'll save you the trouble of having to not listen. I'll just hush. Keeps everyone happier that way.
  • [00:35:48] <Russ> ds2: I'm not being serious
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  • [00:53:23] <got-beagle> http://beagleboard.org/static/BBSRM_latest.pdf
  • [00:54:28] <got-beagle> manual of 197 pages for beagle board
  • [00:55:02] <got-beagle> ver# c3
  • [01:01:34] <emeb> OK - dumb question: when partitioning an SD card for beagle, the instructions have you create a ~400MB FAT partition, of which only about 1% is used. Is this necessary, or can I allocate less to FAT & more to ext3?
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  • [03:19:31] <mib_z8vih1> russ: interesting linux-omap 2.6.27 doesn't work on rev C of the bb as well .. must be something between 27/28
  • [03:19:58] <Russ> mib_z8vih1: maybe its clean enough for a git bisect?
  • [03:20:11] <Russ> mib_z8vih1: but probably not, given the way the tree works
  • [03:24:44] <mib_z8vih1> russ: might be worth a try =).
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  • [03:28:01] <mib_z8vih1> russ: 5076 revisions left to test after this =/ this will take a while
  • [03:43:30] <Russ> or you could buy ds2 one of those beer a month things
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  • [03:48:01] <sakoman_> mib_z8vih1: what are you trying to do?
  • [03:51:57] <mib_z8vih1> sakoman_: trying to figure out why rev C of the beagleboard doesn't work with kernel 2.6.27.
  • [03:52:19] <sakoman_> mib_z8vih1: is there a reason you need to use such an old kernel?
  • [03:52:54] <mib_z8vih1> sakoman_: actually what happen is that i've been working with a L25.6 TI kernel on rev B4 of the beagleboard.. but when i got Rev C with more memory that I needed. The kernel doesn't boot. hangs after "booting the kernel"
  • [03:54:04] <sakoman_> there aren't very many folks here who use the TI kernel (or 2.6.27 for that matter) You'd have better chance of getting support if you step up to 2.6.28 or 2.6.29
  • [03:54:55] <mib_z8vih1> sakoman_: yea.. i know what you mean.. but I kinda have to stick to the L25 TI releases =(. so i was hoping i can find the change that was made between 28-27 on linux-omap.git to make it work for Rev C
  • [03:55:37] <mib_z8vih1> sakoman_: Ti did merge changes from linux-omap back in 10/21/2008 but they haven't done it since.
  • [03:56:08] <sakoman_> good luck. that sounds like a very painful process
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  • [03:56:23] <mib_z8vih1> sakoman_: i'm kinda curious as to why the kernel wouldn't boot in Rev C2. it works fine in Rev B4
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  • [03:57:33] <sakoman_> mib_z8vih1: not a clue!
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  • [04:01:28] <Russ> sakoman_: are you good with TI manuals?
  • [04:02:15] <sakoman_> Russ: I try to avoid them :-) What is the question?
  • [04:02:55] <Russ> In the TPS65950 TRM
  • [04:03:16] <Russ> 5.4.2.4.5 "Partial OFF Events" and 5.4.2.4.6 "Partial ON Events"
  • [04:03:38] <Russ> it says the transitions are SLEEP->ON and SLEEP->OFF transitions respectively
  • [04:03:47] <Russ> which...doesn't really make sense
  • [04:04:21] <sakoman_> sounds backwards!
  • [04:04:32] <Russ> especially since it says "When the system goes to SLEEP from ACTIVE state" and "When system goes to Active state from SLEEP state" respectively
  • [04:05:04] <Russ> and the first one is also described as "Table 5-15 lists the events that put the device in sleep mode"
  • [04:05:12] <sakoman_> does it make sense if the section titles are reversed?
  • [04:05:15] <Russ> and the second "Table 5-16 lists the events that put the device in active mode"
  • [04:06:01] <Russ> given that the first one says nSLEEP goes low, and the second nSLEEP goes high, I think it must be
  • [04:06:32] <Russ> so then when I get to table 5-24 in 5.4.8, I'm confused as to which confused way they mean
  • [04:06:59] <Russ> which one is ACTIVE-to-SLEEP and which one is SLEEP-to-ACTIVE, is it also backwards, or the right way
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  • [04:07:29] <sakoman_> wish I knew :-)
  • [04:07:57] <sakoman_> choose the way that would make sense and you will likely be right
  • [04:08:13] <Russ> heh, how long have you been reading technical documentation?
  • [04:08:52] <sakoman_> probably close to 40 years :-)
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  • [04:17:40] <koen> good moring all
  • [04:19:46] <sakoman_> good morning koen
  • [04:22:23] <koen> sakoman_: I showed the overo + summit to someone wanting to design touchscreen appliance and he really like that everything needed was present on a gumstix
  • [04:22:28] <koen> "so small"
  • [04:23:16] <solar> to use the usb serial console only. You would esc u-boot and change setenv console to ttyXXX?
  • [04:23:36] <denix> morning koen
  • [04:23:59] <koen> hey denix
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  • [04:26:13] <ds2> solar: console for linux or for U-boot purposes?
  • [04:26:24] <ds2> morning koen
  • [04:26:29] <koen> hey ds2
  • [04:28:16] <solar> ds2: yeah first boot. No DVI devices at home.. so usb-console first..
  • [04:28:26] <sakoman_> koen: he's the target market!
  • [04:29:17] <ds2> solar: by default the console is the serial port so DVI won't matter
  • [04:30:03] <denix> ok, nice, we just lost the .dev history again...
  • [04:30:34] <denix> oops, wrong channel
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  • [04:32:35] <koen> denix: did someone reset HEAD?
  • [04:33:03] <GregorR> Do mails to the mailing list from unregistered addresses never show up, or do they just have to be approved?
  • [04:33:22] <koen> GregorR: jason approves then from time to time
  • [04:33:24] <solar> looks like setenv console ttyS0
  • [04:33:56] <denix> koen: not sure, but we just lost a whole day of commits
  • [04:34:37] <GregorR> koen: By "time to time", should I read "You ought to register your address and resend the message"? :P
  • [04:35:42] <denix> koen: yeah, I think you're right, commits are still there, the HEAD is wrong
  • [04:36:53] <koen> GregorR: yes
  • [04:38:36] <Russ> git reflog?
  • [04:38:52] <Russ> solar: I think you want ttyS3
  • [04:39:05] <Russ> er
  • [04:39:07] <Russ> ttyS2
  • [04:41:27] <ds2> solar: console=ttyS2,115200n8
  • [04:43:29] <solar> oddly that did not seem to work the first few times. But seems mostly fine now. Also seems booting it is somehow hogging the resources of my laptop. load average: 2.13, 1.41, 0.96
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  • [04:59:10] <ds2> solar: make sure flow control is set to none
  • [05:01:33] <solar> does this device work properly over the mini usb device by default? Last thing I saw was booting kernel image from u-boot
  • [05:03:20] <Russ> wait
  • [05:03:33] <Russ> I assumed that USB, you meant you had a USB to serial adapter
  • [05:04:03] <Russ> are you plugged into the DB9, or the mini USB connection?
  • [05:04:26] <solar> miniusb
  • [05:05:15] <Russ> oh, what terminal progam are using
  • [05:05:39] <solar> http://rafb.net/p/fLiuY119.html
  • [05:05:50] <solar> I'm using xc. tested with both N0 and N1
  • [05:06:04] <Russ> when u-boot boots the kernel, the serial device goes away and comes back
  • [05:06:10] <Russ> does xc handle that well?
  • [05:06:40] <solar> I noticed that. I was on ttyACM0 at one point. My session died then ACM1 was there.
  • [05:06:45] <Russ> and I'm not even sure what you set console= to when you are doing that
  • [05:06:56] <Russ> I would recommend connecting a NULL modem cable to the DB9
  • [05:07:52] <Russ> koen: do you know what console= shoud be set to for the composite gadget with ethernet + serial?
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  • [05:09:07] <solar> do you know if using the miniusb device for serial is a no go in general? it's nice to be able to serial to a device and power it at the same time.
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  • [05:09:34] <ds2> kind of
  • [05:09:44] <ds2> the mini USB is the MUSB port
  • [05:09:57] <ds2> musb is flaky
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  • [05:10:04] <Russ> I messed with a while, came up with this: http://gitorious.org/projects/clonetty and then got tired of musb in general and went back to just using the DB9
  • [05:10:22] <gregoiregentil> Ping RogerMonk|linux
  • [05:10:33] <ds2> safest thing to do is use the DB-9 to IDC-10 thing
  • [05:11:24] <solar> oh. Do you also have any openocd scripts handy for reflashing the nand?
  • [05:11:42] <ds2> open ocd doesn't work yet
  • [05:11:47] <ds2> you need to flash from U-boot
  • [05:11:58] <ds2> Beagle knows how to boot of the SD card
  • [05:12:01] <Russ> solar: or boot to angstrom on SD and then flash from there
  • [05:12:49] <solar> whats used to put the first image on the nand?
  • [05:13:07] <Russ> it really depends what image you are talking about
  • [05:13:15] * solar never used the flyswatter w/o opencd so the lines are blurred there for me
  • [05:13:45] <Russ> its pretty easy once you boot to angstrom on SD to do anything on the NAND flash, except of course flashing u-boot and/or xloader
  • [05:17:43] <ds2> solar: the factory image, I think is installed with the self flashing SD image
  • [05:19:13] <ds2> This site has the self flashing images -
  • [05:19:18] <ds2> http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/BeagleboardRevCValidation
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  • [05:26:06] <solar> I should probably kick myself.
  • [05:27:05] <solar> does the default revC image come configured with a default IP ? I do have handy a airlink 101
  • [05:27:38] <Russ> I take it you don't have a null modem cable?
  • [05:27:39] <ds2> no default IP
  • [05:27:56] <ds2> solar: do you need a serial port setup?
  • [05:28:30] <solar> sorta. I don't have a usb->serial converter around
  • [05:28:45] <ds2> Oh that part...
  • [05:29:29] <ds2> I can give you a IDC-10 to DB-9 + the cisco style serial adapters; just need to dig them out
  • [05:29:30] <solar> unless I hacked something together with a few of these ftdi rs2332 boards
  • [05:29:41] <Russ> you could edit the inittab to add a console on usbmon0
  • [05:30:08] <ds2> Or a quick run to frys...they are like $15
  • [05:31:04] <solar> yeah I wont be that direction till next tuesday.
  • [05:31:13] <ds2> let me know if you need a db-9 to idc10 and/or the db-9 to pc part... got some of those save up from trash piles
  • [05:31:16] <solar> and it wont try to get a dhcp lease or anything?
  • [05:31:44] <Russ> dunno
  • [05:31:53] <Russ> solar: you can always edit the files on the SD card
  • [05:31:55] <solar> I guess that should be easy enough to edit
  • [05:34:34] <solar> or maybe not. http://rafb.net/p/CW76W916.html
  • [05:34:52] <Russ> solar: shoulda ordered your stuff from special computing
  • [05:35:33] <Russ> you got sda1
  • [05:35:44] <Russ> also, it looks like you have your write protect tab on
  • [05:35:54] <GregorR> solar: You can configure the image to present a regular getty over the USB serial.
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  • [05:36:38] <solar> but not the miniusb port?
  • [05:36:46] <GregorR> That's what I'm referring to.
  • [05:36:54] <GregorR> The virtual serial on the USB OTG port.
  • [05:37:05] <GregorR> So long as you can access that from your host, you just need to add the appropriate line to inittab.
  • [05:37:25] <GregorR> GS0:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 115200 ttyGS0
  • [05:37:35] <GregorR> Or at least, that worked for me :)
  • [05:37:44] <Russ> GregorR: usbmon0 is what worked for me
  • [05:38:13] <GregorR> ... usbmon0 ... ?
  • [05:38:18] <Russ> dunno why
  • [05:38:22] <Russ> thats what shows up in /dev
  • [05:38:56] <GregorR> Idonno, GS0 worked for me, maybe it's under both names.
  • [05:39:14] <Russ> its probably some tweak that koen did to fix it that I don't have
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  • [05:41:33] <solar> sda1 was the bootloader. I can get to that one pretty easy. The file system on sda2,3 are jffs2 or some such?
  • [05:41:50] <Russ> I'd think ext3
  • [05:41:56] <Russ> try mounting them directly with -t ext3
  • [05:41:57] <GregorR> Should be ext3
  • [05:42:12] <Russ> and see if turning off the write protect tab helps, I don't think ext3 likes that since it tries to replay the journal
  • [05:42:58] <solar> the write is off. mount always says that when it fails.
  • [05:44:36] <GregorR> Oh, sorry, didn't notice the pastebin
  • [05:44:50] <GregorR> Where's this card from?
  • [05:45:50] <solar> digikey (arm directly)
  • [05:47:07] <ds2> solar: do you have a spare 2G SD card? if so, make a copy of the ESC image... might be a bit more flexible
  • [05:47:24] <solar> ESC?
  • [05:47:28] <ds2> that way you have a choice of at least 2 different setups to hack at
  • [05:47:30] <ds2> yeah
  • [05:47:30] <GregorR> There certainly should be SOME file system on his card :P
  • [05:48:06] <ds2> http://beagleboard.org/esc
  • [05:48:08] <solar> well. Really I'd be content to just kill the flash.
  • [05:48:39] <ds2> there is a rootfs with Angstrom and one with a bare busybox style setup
  • [05:48:40] <solar> but the nand seems to lack a few files on it's own to just boot if I formatted the SD entire thing as ext2
  • [05:49:30] <solar> speaking of. I take it there is no apex working on the beagle
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  • [05:51:15] <ds2> nope, just U-boot at the moment
  • [05:51:20] <ds2> port it? :D
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  • [05:55:40] <solar> heh gotta get a console first :)
  • [05:57:28] <ds2> I think you do have a RS-232 to USB thing
  • [05:57:36] <ds2> the flyswatter will do that
  • [05:58:02] <solar> but... It needs.. :)
  • [05:58:14] <ds2> just the cables
  • [05:58:24] <solar> the one of tct right?
  • [05:58:36] <ds2> yeah, the tct flyswatter has an aux serial port
  • [05:58:47] <ds2> so all you need is a null modem + db9-idc
  • [05:59:04] <ds2> db9-idc might be salvageable from an old pc
  • [05:59:11] <solar> think I might have those handy anyway.
  • [05:59:47] <solar> prpplguage sent me like 50 db9 male/female connectors and mini boards
  • [05:59:58] <ds2> hahahah
  • [06:02:25] <ds2> now to recruit more people to work on the cortex-a8 support for openocd ;)
  • [06:04:45] <Russ> I like db9 female better because you can plug the USB<->Serial adapter into directly if you wire it up right
  • [06:06:10] <ds2> if I had it my way, I would prefer a USB to serial adapter with a RJ-45
  • [06:06:33] <ds2> those Cisco adapters are really handy
  • [06:06:33] <Russ> ?
  • [06:06:36] <Russ> ah
  • [06:06:58] <ds2> cisco routers uses a RJ45 to DB9 adapter for the console
  • [06:07:12] <Russ> the yellow cable
  • [06:07:14] <ds2> and the way you make a null modem cable, you just use a Rolled RJ45 flat cable
  • [06:07:26] <ds2> straight is just a ethernet cable
  • [06:07:50] <ds2> and the best part is... those cisco cable packs are found in trash piles all the time
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  • [06:15:24] * solar kicks self even harder.. there is a usb->serial converter sitting right next to me.
  • [06:15:45] <solar> helps to look behind the monitor every so often
  • [06:19:17] <ds2> ahahahhaha
  • [06:25:22] <solar> that was a lot of work. Ok so rewind a bit.
  • [06:25:40] <solar> when using the 8 pin connector. What console= will we be on?
  • [06:28:50] <ds2> console=ttyS2,115200n8
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  • [06:37:18] <solar> hrmm think this card has a bad/incomplete install on it then.
  • [06:38:44] <solar> play more tmw. It's wine time
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  • [07:08:38] <Russ> ok..MSG_M MSG_L
  • [07:08:42] <Russ> what do the M and L stand for?
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  • [07:09:52] <Russ> I swear, this documentation was written by the devil
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  • [07:12:04] <Russ> the docs show bits 0-7 of PB_MSG are contained in MSG_M
  • [07:12:10] <Russ> and bits 8-12 are in MSG_L
  • [07:12:21] <Russ> but PB_MSG is 16 bits....
  • [07:12:34] <Russ> and its the other byte order
  • [07:12:47] <ds2> and people thought docs would help them ;)
  • [07:13:00] <Russ> at least thats what I get from looking at the code in the kernel
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  • [07:23:00] <Russ> ooohhh
  • [07:23:02] <Russ> I get it
  • [07:23:13] <Russ> State Transition: SLEEP->ON
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  • [07:23:27] <Russ> doesn't mean that the state is transitioning from SLEEP to ON
  • [07:23:36] <Russ> it means that the state for SLEEP is becoming ON
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  • [07:23:48] <Russ> eg, SLEEP = 1
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  • [07:26:33] <Russ> I don't think they quite understand what a state transition is
  • [07:30:59] <ds2> heh
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  • [08:00:06] <mib_1btv6s> i have connected beagle board to a dvi monitor, monitor is powered up. but i dont see anything on it
  • [08:00:23] <mib_1btv6s> do i need to supply any special bootargs for it
  • [08:00:30] <mib_1btv6s> i use 28 kernel
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  • [09:06:03] <mib_1btv6s> i am using revb board. i connected beagle to dvi monitor, but i dont see anything on dvi monitor
  • [09:06:11] <mib_1btv6s> anyone faced this problem
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  • [09:34:14] <szricky> u-boot fetch error, could somebody advise?
  • [09:34:26] <szricky> fetch http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/sources/git_gitorious.org.u-boot-omap3.mainline.git.tar.gz
  • [09:34:38] <szricky> --2009-04-10 16:31:32-- http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/sources/git_gitorious.org.u-boot-omap3.mainline.git.tar.gz
  • [09:34:48] <szricky> Resolving www.angstrom-distribution.org... 85.214.40.226
  • [09:34:57] <szricky> Connecting to www.angstrom-distribution.org|85.214.40.226|:80... connected.
  • [09:35:07] <szricky> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
  • [09:35:15] <szricky> 2009-04-10 16:31:33 ERROR 404: Not Found.
  • [09:35:36] <szricky> u-boot file not found. any advice? Thanks!!
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  • [09:39:43] <hrw|gone> szricky: your build should check it from git after that 404
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  • [09:39:54] <hrw> morning
  • [09:41:54] <szricky> I think I should wait until somebody fix this file on web site. right?
  • [09:42:58] <hrw> no
  • [09:43:23] <hrw> OE first checks mirror then checkout from git
  • [09:44:26] <szricky> but OE meet error from git now.
  • [09:45:38] <szricky> should I checkout the u-boot by manual?
  • [09:46:38] <hrw> what kind of error?
  • [09:47:28] <szricky> fetch http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/sources/git_gitorious.org.u-boot-omap3.mainline.git.tar.gz
  • [09:47:40] <szricky> --2009-04-10 16:31:32-- http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/sources/git_gitorious.org.u-boot-omap3.mainline.git.tar.gz
  • [09:47:49] <szricky> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
  • [09:48:12] <szricky> fetch error.
  • [09:49:09] <szricky> can't download u-boot from web site, I think I can download it by manual, and save in downloads folder.
  • [09:49:42] <szricky> I'm a beginner, thanks hrw. :)
  • [09:53:47] <rob_k> Hi. I have a problem with OE. I've made a patch which adds few src and makefile. Files are created but withouts read/write rights.
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  • [09:54:01] <rob_k> Im getting an errors like:
  • [09:54:13] <rob_k> sed: can't read /home/robert/oe/tmp/work/armv7a-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/artoolkit-2.72.1-r6/ARToolKit/.pc/mysimple.patch/examples/mysimple/Makefile.in: Permission denied
  • [09:54:25] <hrw> szricky: no
  • [09:54:52] <hrw> szricky: OE first checks mirror (but not found it for you) then checkout from git
  • [09:54:58] <hrw> szricky: so it should just works
  • [09:54:59] <rob_k> How to solve it?
  • [09:55:41] <hrw> rob_k: show recipe?
  • [09:58:10] <rob_k> recipe is standard for artoolkit openembedded/recipes/opencv/artoolkit_2.72.1.bb . I've added PR = "r6" and
  • [09:58:11] <rob_k> SRC_URI = "${SOURCEFORGE_MIRROR}/artoolkit/ARToolKit-${PV}.tgz \ file://configure.diff;patch=1 \ file://paddle.diff;patch=1 \ file://mysimple.patch;patch=1"
  • [09:59:13] <hrw> and then it is seded? augh
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  • [10:00:24] <rob_k> mysiple.patch;patch=1 <--added by me
  • [10:03:30] <hrw> I know
  • [10:05:45] <hrw> would have to build and check ;(
  • [10:15:15] <mib_1btv6s> i connect my board to monitor using dvi cable, i see beagleimage on monitor. when i boot the kernel, i see a message saying input format not supported on monitor
  • [10:16:03] <mib_1btv6s> i use acer
  • [10:16:22] <mib_1btv6s> anyone faced similar problems
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  • [10:50:08] <mib_1btv6s> any one tried beagle connecting to a wide screen lcd
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  • [11:11:01] <mib_1btv6s> hello anyone here? has anyone tried connecting beagle to a wide screen lcd resolution of lcd is 1366x768, im unable to see anything on the monitor i get a message saying input format not supported
  • [11:11:04] <mib_1btv6s> please help
  • [11:12:23] <hrw> you need to change videomode when you boot BB
  • [11:14:41] <mib_1btv6s> hrw: i tried to change that
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  • [11:15:59] <hrw> mib_1btv6s: my 24" fullHD lcd arrived to shop so I will try BB with 20" 1680x1050 monitor today
  • [11:16:12] <mib_1btv6s> once the kernel bootargs, how big is the display message
  • [11:16:33] <mib_1btv6s> once the kernel boots how big is the display picture
  • [11:16:43] <hrw> hard to tell - never connected BB to lcd
  • [11:17:38] <mib_1btv6s> my my lcd is 1366x768 it seems beagle can support only unto 1024x768
  • [11:18:01] <hrw> not quite
  • [11:18:15] <hrw> 1024x768 is default resolution
  • [11:18:31] <hrw> 720p which is 1280 wide is available too
  • [11:18:32] <mib_1btv6s> so i gave omapfb.video_mode=1280x720MR-24@60 and i get a very small beagle picture at the top of the screen
  • [11:18:46] <hrw> people got 1920x1080@16fps iirc
  • [11:19:29] <mib_1btv6s> if i give parameters like 1366x768 it wont work
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  • [11:24:23] <mib_1btv6s> hrw: i get lots of dispc errors
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  • [11:50:40] <danboid> Is there an accelerated X (XV / OGL(ES) server available for Debian or Ubuntu on the beagle yet? If not, when is it expected?
  • [11:51:51] <danboid> is it expected?
  • [11:52:29] <danboid> or is it just not released to the public yet?
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  • [11:55:57] <danboid> Can anyone recommend a fast-as SD card for use with a Beagle. I've heard Panasonic claiming speeds of 20MB/s for their 32GB SD class 6 cards- is this bull or can I really get 20MB/s off an SDHC card?
  • [11:56:54] <danboid> anybody here??
  • [12:03:38] <eFfeM> yes, but no idea :-)
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  • [12:10:09] <BeagleTest> jkridner is http://beagleboard.org/user/blog.hangerhead.com
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  • [12:10:23] <BeagleTest> jkridner is http://beagleboard.org/user/blog.hangerhead.com
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  • [12:12:57] <like2wise> hello all
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  • [12:15:11] <Crofton|work> gm
  • [12:17:02] <jkridner> gm
  • [12:17:58] <eFfeM> hi
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  • [12:21:58] <eFfeM> tomba, ping
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  • [12:38:44] <eFfeM> tomba, need to go, i've been told you are the wiz on the video driver. I can get 720p on my iiyama monitor but not on my TV with the std drvier. Difference is that the monitor is -hsync and the tv has +hsync.
  • [12:38:44] <eFfeM> If I exchange the hfp and hbp values, the driver works with my TV but not with my monitor. (guess exchanging the hor front and back porch values changes the sync).
  • [12:38:44] <eFfeM> Do you have an idea for a proper solution (e.g. read the sync polarity from EDID and use that) ?
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  • [13:04:45] <amine_56> HI
  • [13:06:41] <amine_56> I have a problem when I try to bitbake "bitbake libgles-omap3-3.00.00.06" for using SGX under angstrom, I have an error NameError: name 'domain' is not defined
  • [13:07:00] <amine_56> Anyone to help me there?
  • [13:07:26] <Crofton> read the bitbake file
  • [13:07:40] <amine_56> What was the problem, maybee I missed smth
  • [13:07:42] <Crofton> it may have instructions for getting some files ....
  • [13:08:13] <amine_56> which file?
  • [13:09:49] <amine_56> I read this tutorial for doing this:http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/HowtoUseSGXunderAngstrom
  • [13:10:24] <amine_56> for using graphic accelerators drivers on angstrom
  • [13:12:04] <amine_56> This messages that I have on terminal when I ""bitbake libgles-omap3-3.00.00.06"
  • [13:12:32] <amine_56> Traceback (most recent call last): File "/home/vmplanet/oe/opt/bitbake/bin/bitbake", line 28, in <module> from bb import cooker File "/home/vmplanet/oe/opt/bitbake/lib/bb/cooker.py", line 27, in <module> from bb import utils, data, parse, event, cache, providers, taskdata, runqueue File "/home/vmplanet/oe/opt/bitbake/lib/bb/parse/__init__.py", l
  • [13:13:56] <amine_56> line 33, in <module> import BBHandler File "/home/vmplanet/oe/opt/bitbake/lib/bb/parse/parse_py/BBHandler.py", line 29, in <module> import bb.fetch, bb.build, bb.utils File "/home/vmplanet/oe/opt/bitbake/lib/bb/fetch/__init__.py", line 30, in <module> from bb import persist_data File "/home/vmplanet/oe/opt/bitbake/lib/bb/persist_data.py",
  • [13:14:01] <amine_56> File "/home/vmplanet/oe/opt/bitbake/lib/bb/persist_data.py", line 32, in <module> class PersistData: File "/home/vmplanet/oe/opt/bitbake/lib/bb/persist_data.py", line 67, in PersistData bb.msg.debug(1, bb.msg.domain.PersistData, "Create table '%s'failed" % domain) NameError: name 'domain' is not defined
  • [13:14:30] <amine_56> The error was "name 'domain' is not defined
  • [13:17:03] <Crofton|work> read the hints in this file: recipes/powervr-drivers/libgles-omap3.inc
  • [13:17:09] <Crofton|work> and stop repeating yourself
  • [13:17:22] <Crofton|work> if someone knows how to help, they will naswer
  • [13:17:25] <Crofton|work> answer
  • [13:17:39] <Crofton|work> nagging only annoys people
  • [13:18:00] <lcuk> reminds them of their wife lol
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  • [13:20:27] <hrw> 1920x1080 is nice
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  • [13:20:44] <hrw> ops. wrong channel
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  • [13:32:51] <amine_56> thnks Crofton|work
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  • [13:40:36] <mib_1btv6s> hrw: you able to get 1920x1080 on beagle?
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  • [13:44:06] <recalcati> morning
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  • [13:44:47] <recalcati> I'm testing 720p with 32W4000 Sony Bravia
  • [13:44:58] <recalcati> video is too much on the left
  • [13:50:43] <recalcati> About 82 pixel
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  • [13:52:37] <Beagle9> hi everyone
  • [13:53:03] <Beagle9> can anyone help me with the USB host port?
  • [13:53:55] <Beagle9> I try to run the demo image with a usb keyboard but it doesn't work
  • [13:55:21] <hrw> Beagle9: C2 or Bx beagleboard?
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  • [14:04:17] <Beagle9> A rev C2 board
  • [14:05:36] <Beagle9> I've connected the hub to the Host port, as the miniA to female USB is quite rare to find
  • [14:05:41] <hrw> I have B7 so no normal host port. for me usb devs works with OTG port
  • [14:05:46] <hrw> Beagle9: powered hub?
  • [14:05:51] <Beagle9> yup
  • [14:06:08] <emeb_mac> Beagle9: the host port is high-speed only. Won't work with a low-speed/full-speed hub or kbd
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  • [14:07:13] <Beagle9> hmmmm any other suggestions?
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  • [14:08:15] <emeb_mac> get a high-speed hub, buy the miniA / femaleA cable or mod a miniB cable.
  • [14:08:32] <recalcati> on samsung LE32A336 video was only a little cropped, instead with Sony 32W4000 is moved on the left of about 82 pixels, anybody has idea of the reason ? Ive posted on BB google goup
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  • [14:09:45] <Beagle9> it is a high speed hub and it does recognize the keyboard but somehow it doesn't work with the boot screen of Angstrom
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  • [14:13:33] <emeb_mac> Beagle9: Sounds like you're doing all the right things. Any chance you could try another version of Angstrom?
  • [14:17:02] <Beagle9> well it does state that it found a wireless receiver, could it still be due to the highspeed/lowspeed issue?
  • [14:17:40] <Beagle9> I tried to do some kernel compilations but I don't even get to compiling as I don't understand how to work with the toolchain
  • [14:17:57] <Beagle9> would be nice to have some kind of prefabricated vm
  • [14:18:05] <emeb_mac> Which Angstrom are you using?
  • [14:18:13] <emeb_mac> (where did you get it?)
  • [14:21:05] <Beagle9> i got it from http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/downloads/list
  • [14:21:19] <Beagle9> and I used the most recent version
  • [14:23:00] <emeb_mac> Wow - there's nothing there newer than early Feb '09. You should be able to get stuff that's not more than a few days old by going to Koen's website, or to sakoman's daily builds.
  • [14:23:22] <Beagle9> but how do I find prefabricated builds
  • [14:23:27] <emeb_mac> I've found that sakoman's daily builds are pretty good.
  • [14:23:44] <Beagle9> what's the url?
  • [14:24:03] <Beagle9> how do I get to the binaries?
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  • [14:24:20] <emeb_mac> grep the IRC logs for sakoman's site. I don't have it handy.
  • [14:24:46] <Beagle9> found it!
  • [14:24:55] <emeb_mac> get all 4 components and follow the instructions in the beginners FAQ on beagleboard.org for building an SD card
  • [14:25:02] <Beagle9> I'm going to try it...
  • [14:25:06] <Beagle9> thanks a lot!!!
  • [14:25:12] <emeb_mac> good luck.
  • [14:25:22] <Beagle9> thanks, I'll need that ;-)
  • [14:27:08] <hrw> where I can find working list of omap video modes?
  • [14:27:17] <hrw> finally connected lcd to beagleboard..
  • [14:27:56] <emeb_mac> the faq/wiki on beagleboard.org has some for both new & old omapfb drivers
  • [14:29:54] <hrw> thx
  • [14:31:33] <Beagle9> well I thought that http://www.sakoman.net/omap3 was the directory, but somehow it's not.
  • [14:32:05] <hrw> ok, time to go though list to check which modes my 205bw panel likes
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  • [14:33:25] <sakoman_> Beagle9: http://www.sakoman.com/feeds/omap3/glibc/images/
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  • [14:34:02] <hrw> 1280x800MR-16@50 works
  • [14:34:03] <Beagle9> thanks!!!!
  • [14:34:41] <emeb_mac> sakoman: thanks for getting me going on this yesterday. the 1280x760 mode looks great.
  • [14:34:59] <recalcati> hrw: we need 1280x720 .. standard on TV
  • [14:34:59] <hrw> ~curse otg port
  • [14:35:10] <hrw> recalcati: I have 16:10 panel
  • [14:35:18] <emeb_mac> I tried a DVD last night & it almost worked. Played the intro for about 1 minute & mplayer bailed out.
  • [14:36:12] <emeb_mac> no biggie though - playing DVDs not a big deal for me. Just testing.
  • [14:36:25] <sakoman_> emeb_mac: make sure to use the -vo xv option on mplayer
  • [14:36:45] <sakoman_> performance really sucks otherwise
  • [14:36:48] <emeb_mac> OK - I'll try that too. Need to research to see what it does.
  • [14:37:19] <sakoman_> even with -vo xv it it kind of marginal, and some dvd's just don't play well at all :-(
  • [14:37:22] <emeb_mac> when it crashed the errors looked like CRC problems on the DVD. Bad disk/drive?
  • [14:37:29] <sakoman_> possible
  • [14:38:05] <sakoman_> you can even try gnome-mplayer, select xv and alsa in the prefs panel
  • [14:38:15] <emeb_mac> Well, beagle playing dvd is like talking dog: amazing that it works at all.
  • [14:38:29] <emeb_mac> OK - sounds like an interesting experiment.
  • [14:38:49] <sakoman_> for gnome mplayer you need to 'ln -s /dev/sdc0 /dev/dvd' so it can find the drive
  • [14:39:03] <emeb_mac> yep already did that.
  • [14:39:15] <sakoman_> click the full screen icon for the full experience
  • [14:39:31] <emeb_mac> so I could use dvd://
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  • [14:40:02] <sakoman_> there are a bunch of interesting apps in the image, have fun exploring
  • [14:40:32] <sakoman_> If you don't like the e file manager, just launch the "Computer" app (nautilus)
  • [14:40:36] <hrw> btw - does omapfb reacts to fbset?
  • [14:40:44] <emeb_mac> I'd noticed. Thanks for putting that out - it seems to be pretty well thought out.
  • [14:41:23] <sakoman_> my daily builds aren't really "daily" - just when I fix a bug or add something
  • [14:42:15] <emeb_mac> if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
  • [14:43:09] <emeb_mac> Someone ought to set up a wiki page for your builds. That might save some IRC traffic.
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  • [14:47:15] <mib_1btv6s> hrw: i am able to use my monitor with beagle now
  • [14:47:49] <mib_1btv6s> but BB is not detecting my keyboard and mouse
  • [14:48:25] <mib_1btv6s> does 2.6.28 image that comes with angstrom has some issues with usb
  • [14:48:44] <Crofton|work> are you powering the hub
  • [14:48:58] <mib_1btv6s> yes
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  • [14:49:59] <Crofton|work> that kernel has worked for me
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  • [14:57:59] <recalcati> hrw: ok
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  • [15:02:18] <Beagle9> sakoman. Love the image! Well I hope I will get it to work with my keyboard and mouse. Somehow the usb host is twisted...
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  • [15:24:41] <Beagle9> sakoman, how do I change the resolution and run the graphics demo's?
  • [15:24:56] <Beagle9> By the way this fixed my mouse and keyboard...
  • [15:28:49] <sakoman_> Beagle9: reboot, break into u-boot and wipe your environment:
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  • [15:29:02] <sakoman_> nand erase 260000 20000
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  • [15:29:29] <sakoman_> reboot and you will be in 1024x768@60
  • [15:29:57] <sakoman_> if you want something different, there is a u-boot env ariable to set that
  • [15:30:14] <Beagle9> before I try that, does it still work afterwards?
  • [15:30:21] <sakoman_> of course :-)
  • [15:30:35] <sakoman_> that process is an easy way to get u-boot to use the default settings
  • [15:31:16] <sakoman_> to change the resolution you change the dvimode u-boot env variable
  • [15:31:22] <Beagle9> and how about the 3d demo'?
  • [15:31:38] <sakoman_> for example (from u-boot): setenv dvimode 1280x960MR-16@60
  • [15:31:39] <Beagle9> that's something I have to supply with my bootargs?
  • [15:32:37] <sakoman_> you could also change it from linux: fw_setenv dvimode 1280x960MR-16@60
  • [15:33:08] <mib_1btv6s> are you powering up the beagle using usb powered hub and connecting the keyboard and mouse to the hub
  • [15:33:16] <sakoman_> to understand how this works, just printenv from u-boot and you wll see the scripts that handle booting and command line args
  • [15:33:56] <Beagle9> well I tried to use the example as my monitor should be able to display that resolution, but it keeps on working in 640x480... How come=
  • [15:34:00] <mib_1btv6s> or are you using a external power to beagle and connecting hub to the usb port, my board detects the hub and the ports, but unable to use them
  • [15:34:21] <sakoman_> Beagle9: have you wiped the env?
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  • [15:34:47] <sakoman_> if so you will get a message on the next boot that u-boot is using the default image
  • [15:35:27] <Beagle9> yup I wiped it and it still doesn't give the right resolution.. Trying to completely power down now...
  • [15:35:38] <sakoman_> Beagle9: pastebin the results of u-boot printenv if it isn't working
  • [15:36:08] <sakoman_> (or alternatively fw_printenv from linux)
  • [15:37:18] <Beagle9> bootcmd=if mmcinit; then if run loadbootscript; then run bootscript; else if run loaduimage; then if run loadramdisk; then run ramboot; else run mmcboot; fi; else run nandboot; fi; fi; else run nandboot; fi
  • [15:37:36] <Beagle9> sorry how can i do this nicely formatted?
  • [15:37:48] <sakoman_> use pastebin.com
  • [15:38:09] <sakoman_> and please include the entire results of the print_env (or fw_printenv)
  • [15:39:08] <Beagle9> http://pastebin.com/m5201018a
  • [15:40:05] <sakoman_> I can tell from the above paste that you either did not wipe the u-boot env, or you are not using my u-boo
  • [15:40:44] <Beagle9> hmmmm... how do I get your u-boot to work on my board. I have copied it to the SD card
  • [15:40:58] <sakoman_> actually it looks like you aren't running my u-boot
  • [15:41:23] <Beagle9> no but somehow it keeps on using the one I flashed in the NAND
  • [15:41:43] <Beagle9> can I copy your u-boot to the NAND store?
  • [15:41:44] <sakoman_> Are you seeing: Loading u-boot.bin from mmc after the mlo splash?
  • [15:41:54] <Beagle9> nope
  • [15:42:03] <Beagle9> how do I change that?
  • [15:42:08] <sakoman_> it should run from mmc, check the file name
  • [15:42:25] <Beagle9> is it with or without the .bin extension?
  • [15:42:43] <sakoman_> with, it should be u-boot.bin and the kernel should be uImage
  • [15:43:10] <sakoman_> I assume you are holding down the User key when rebooting?
  • [15:43:25] <Beagle9> not yet
  • [15:43:49] <sakoman_> you need to hold down the user key to use the mlo, u-boot from SD card
  • [15:44:28] <sakoman_> what version of x-loader does your boot splash print?
  • [15:44:34] <Beagle9> okay and how do I make that persistent...
  • [15:44:42] <Beagle9> 1.41
  • [15:44:52] <sakoman_> ah, that is old
  • [15:45:08] <Beagle9> but I also put your x-loader on SD...
  • [15:45:24] <Beagle9> how do I transfer this to the NAND flash?
  • [15:45:31] <sakoman_> That only gets run if the user button is pressed
  • [15:46:03] <sakoman_> So you are using the old x-loader in nand which isn't smart enough to look on SD card
  • [15:46:24] <Beagle9> okay.. how can I change the x-loader?
  • [15:46:35] <Beagle9> I have the version from your latest build
  • [15:48:25] <sakoman_> use the mlo from my build
  • [15:48:46] <sakoman_> I use this to write 4 copies to nand (in case of bad blocks):
  • [15:48:46] <Beagle9> how do I get the mlo from SD to the NAND flash?
  • [15:48:48] <sakoman_> http://pastebin.com/m2d0068fe
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  • [15:51:01] <Beagle9> it doesn't read the mlo file, it says 0 bytes read
  • [15:51:35] <sakoman_> is the file name right?
  • [15:53:16] <Beagle9> yeah it was empty, i recopied it
  • [15:54:14] <koen> good morning all
  • [15:54:25] <sakoman_> good morning koen!
  • [15:55:31] <uberfry> wait a second... there is nand flash on the beagleboard?
  • [15:56:06] <sakoman_> uberfry: yes, 256MB
  • [15:56:22] <uberfry> wow :o
  • [15:56:27] <uberfry> thanks for telling me
  • [15:56:36] <uberfry> is it possible to access the debug regs?
  • [15:56:59] * sakoman_ shrugs
  • [15:57:08] <uberfry> hrm
  • [15:57:34] <Beagle9> okay got mlo to work and now?
  • [15:57:53] <sakoman_> boot, wipe env, reboot
  • [15:58:00] <uberfry> ahhhhhhhh wait a second... nand flash is in a chip, right?
  • [15:58:06] <uberfry> the chip on chip package I mean
  • [15:58:08] <uberfry> bga
  • [15:58:13] <sakoman_> yup, in the micron pop
  • [15:58:21] <Beagle9> the wipe env is the sequence you said earlier?
  • [15:58:31] <sakoman_> yes
  • [15:58:37] <uberfry> ahhhh shit, no way to access the pads?
  • [15:59:05] <sakoman_> Beagle9: at that point you should see somehting like this: http://pastebin.com/m38f29699
  • [15:59:47] <sakoman_> uberfry: why would you want to access the pads?
  • [16:00:06] <uberfry> I'd like to connect external hardware
  • [16:00:11] <uberfry> gpio is too slow :(
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  • [16:00:19] <uberfry> I want dma access
  • [16:00:44] <Beagle9> I now get a NAND crc error, using default environment
  • [16:01:06] <sakoman_> yup, normal -- the env partition is erased
  • [16:01:21] <sakoman_> you can do a saveenv if that offends you :-)
  • [16:01:27] <Beagle9> but I don't get a higher resolution...
  • [16:01:37] <Beagle9> it is still 640x480
  • [16:01:47] <Beagle9> I most certainly will ;-)
  • [16:02:27] <sakoman_> what is the kernel boot message?
  • [16:02:54] <sakoman_> I have a feeling you aren't running my uImage :-)
  • [16:03:44] <sakoman_> or perhaps still running the wrong u-boot
  • [16:04:28] <sakoman_> first check the u-boot banner and printenv to see that they are similar to what I pasted above
  • [16:06:02] <Beagle9> http://pastebin.com/m6095c709
  • [16:06:11] <Beagle9> that is my startup message now
  • [16:06:56] <koen> sakoman_: did my patch for gpio-key and gpio-led work on your palo43??
  • [16:06:57] <sakoman_> well, there you go: it can't read uImage from mmc
  • [16:07:14] <sakoman_> koen: yes, test build went OK
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  • [16:07:39] <sakoman_> koen: but I couldn't test it because Gordon has my Palo43 (borrowed it for ESC show)
  • [16:07:50] <sakoman_> I'll have it back today and will test functionality
  • [16:07:56] <koen> sakoman_: over here only one led (the top one) work, and no keys
  • [16:07:58] <sakoman_> koen: thanks for the patch!
  • [16:08:13] <koen> sakoman_: but then again, that might be due to connector issues
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  • [16:08:39] <sakoman_> likely so - I know both leds and switches work
  • [16:08:45] <sakoman_> I used them in my demo
  • [16:09:08] <koen> my palo has scary wires soldered to the keys :)
  • [16:09:37] <sakoman_> Beagle9: the boot messages indicate that u-boot can't find uImage on your SD card
  • [16:09:43] <Beagle9> that did the trick!!!!
  • [16:09:47] <sakoman_> koen: the first batch had a routing error
  • [16:09:51] <koen> sakoman_: the keys map to 'f' (fullscreen for mplayer) and f11 (fullscreen for gtk apps)
  • [16:10:11] <Beagle9> I renamed uImage.bin (somehow I did something strange) and now it works like a charm!
  • [16:10:15] <koen> feel free to pick other values for upstreaming
  • [16:10:30] <Beagle9> I have the resolution and I am able to run the demo's!
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  • [16:10:47] <Beagle9> thank you so much for your help... I've learned a lot today!
  • [16:10:51] <sakoman_> koen: will do!
  • [16:11:29] <sakoman_> Beagle9: TI introduced a lot of confusion with naming (they switched from uImage to uImage.bin)
  • [16:11:48] <sakoman_> I'm going to stick with uImage, the way it has always been
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  • [16:23:31] <uberfry> anyone here know if it's possible to access multiple sd cards?
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  • [16:32:30] <Beagle9> sakoman, this is a really nice image!
  • [16:32:55] <Beagle9> Is it correct that not all 3d demos work correctly and that I am not able to start Mplayer?
  • [16:33:14] <uberfry> Beagle9: do you know which /dev/ device is sd card please?
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  • [16:35:02] <Beagle9> mmcblk0p1 is the boot partition and mmcblk0p2 is the rootfs
  • [16:35:33] <uberfry> ah ok thanks
  • [16:36:31] <uberfry> isn't there raw access?
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  • [16:42:18] <sakoman> Beagle9: which demos don't work?
  • [16:42:48] <sakoman> mplayer should work - what is the issue?
  • [16:45:53] <sakoman> Beagle9: nned to reboot, back in a minute
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  • [16:50:12] <Beagle9> for instance the "shaders" demo doesn't work
  • [16:50:45] <Beagle9> btw can I get rid of all animations and visual effects in the desktop, it really slows things down
  • [16:52:43] <sakoman> Beagle9: yeah, shaders is broken
  • [16:52:47] <sakoman> I'll remove it
  • [16:53:24] <sakoman> Click on the desktop and select Settings/Settings Panel
  • [16:53:36] <sakoman> tweak to your heart's content
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  • [16:55:53] <Beagle9> well somehow I can't find the setting to get rid of the shiny theme and the window animations.
  • [16:56:20] <Beagle9> oh and Mplayer doesn't work as well.. I can't start it from the start menu
  • [16:56:56] <Beagle9> is there some kind of simple theme?
  • [16:57:57] <sakoman> Beagle9: run mplayer from a terminal you can run gnome-mplayer from the apps menu
  • [16:58:15] <Beagle9> okay..that'll work
  • [16:58:28] <Beagle9> can I use something like ipkg to install new apps?
  • [16:58:39] <sakoman> Beagle9: can help you on themes, read the enlightenment docs :-)
  • [16:58:43] <sakoman> opkg
  • [16:59:16] <Beagle9> okay...do I need to set something up like sources or is it already preconfigured?
  • [16:59:26] <sakoman> should be pre-configured
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  • [17:00:51] <sakoman> Beagle9: there is a gui package manager (Applications/Settings/Package Manager)
  • [17:01:10] <sakoman> but real men use opkg ;-)
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  • [17:12:51] <Crofton|work> sakoman, +1
  • [17:12:53] <Crofton|work> :)
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  • [17:15:05] <mib_uijuzh> hi are there any good resources to learn electronics computer science folks?
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  • [17:16:12] <mib_uijuzh> I have got the beagle board running with an angstrom distro...but I'm having a hard time understanding things like pin muxing, power measurements etc. etc.
  • [17:16:40] <Beagle9> okay I used to do something with OpenWRT so I am familiar with the commandline version ;-)
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  • [17:17:14] <mib_uijuzh> basically looking for a dummies type documents on understanding HW since I'm coming from a computer science background
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  • [17:29:12] <Crofton|work> mib_uijuzh, get an EE degree :)
  • [17:29:25] * Crofton|work has two EE degrees :)
  • [17:30:18] <sakoman> mib_uijuzh: I'm not aware of any simple intro. it would be like a dummies intro to cs, the field is just way too broad and deep
  • [17:31:15] <sakoman> read the OMAP3 TRM and google stuff you don't understand. one bite at a time :-)
  • [17:33:09] <Crofton|work> start with Maxwells equations
  • [17:33:21] <Crofton|work> you can derive everything from there :)
  • [17:33:48] <Crofton|work> or do as sakoman suggests, you will get more done faster
  • [17:35:54] <Crofton|work> so you power the Overo with 3.3 volts?
  • [17:36:01] <Russ> http://www.amazon.com/Manga-Guide-Electricity-Kazuhiro-Fujitaki/dp/1593271972
  • [17:36:51] <Crofton|work> http://danielwebb.us/projects/pd_tech_books/
  • [17:36:58] <Crofton|work> This is how I started
  • [17:37:17] <Russ> Crofton|work: I love old books about electricity
  • [17:37:34] <kleinjt> http://www.amazon.com/Art-Electronics-Paul-Horowitz/dp/0521370957 is a great book
  • [17:37:38] <Russ> we aren't really sure what electricity is, etc, etc
  • [17:37:39] <Crofton|work> My father has a copy
  • [17:38:14] <koen> Russ: http://xkcd.com/567/
  • [17:38:14] <sakoman> Crofton: the input to Summit/Palo boards is 5V, they regulate down to supply the Overo CoM
  • [17:38:53] <Crofton|work> I am going through the 70 pin connectors atm
  • [17:39:21] <Russ> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_engineering
  • [17:39:23] <sakoman> OK, then the spec is something like 3.3V - 4.2V
  • [17:39:33] <Crofton|work> :)
  • [17:39:51] <Crofton|work> it was a rhetorical question
  • [17:40:13] <Crofton|work> going through the pins is dull
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  • [17:41:36] <mib_uijuzh> Thanks all for your inputs!
  • [17:43:24] * hrw finally connected BB to lcd monitor
  • [17:43:28] <hrw> amazing!
  • [17:43:30] <hrw> :D
  • [17:48:41] <hrw> http://marcin.juszkiewicz.com.pl/2009/04/10/omg-aka-beagleboard-lcd/
  • [17:50:11] <koen> according to raster it's 'ZOMG', not 'OMG'
  • [17:50:41] <koen> ;)
  • [17:52:59] <hrw> I would even write OMFG but who knows how old readers do I have ;D
  • [17:53:22] <hrw> happy Easter (or good weekend) everyone
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  • [17:53:41] <Crofton|work> thanks!
  • [17:54:41] * sakoman is still trying to figure out the Z in ZOMG :-(
  • [17:54:57] <Crofton|work> likely a "foreign" word
  • [17:54:57] * sakoman must be one of those old readers
  • [17:55:02] * Crofton|work hopes
  • [17:55:12] <Russ> its a way that you say the oh
  • [17:55:31] * Crofton|work is trying to figure out what the ETH0 is in EM_NCS$_ETH0
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  • [17:56:12] <sakoman> it is used for the chipe select for eth0 chip (lan9221)
  • [17:56:26] <Crofton|work> I suspect it is GPMC CS5, but the ETH0 makes me wonder
  • [17:56:34] <Crofton|work> ah
  • [17:56:47] <sakoman> it is to remind gordon what he intended to use it for
  • [17:56:54] <Crofton|work> so it is named based on gusmtix usage
  • [17:56:57] <sakoman> yes
  • [17:56:58] <Crofton|work> yeah
  • [17:57:20] <mru> sakoman: I have no idea what the z means
  • [17:57:30] <Crofton|work> good to know
  • [17:57:33] <mru> and I hope I'm not already old
  • [17:57:47] * sakoman feels much better that he isn't the only clueless one :-)
  • [17:57:57] <Crofton|work> you can only be young once, you can be immature forever
  • [17:58:07] <hrw|gone> zOMG is a varient of the all-too-popular acronym "OMG", meaning "Oh My God".
  • [17:58:08] <hrw|gone> The "z" was originally a mistake while attempting to hit the shift key with the left hand, and type "OMG"
  • [17:58:25] <mru> I know omg of course
  • [17:58:28] <hrw|gone> urban dictionary
  • [17:58:29] <hrw|gone> bye
  • [17:58:34] <Russ> then :OMG
  • [17:58:37] <Crofton|work> l8r
  • [17:58:41] <Crofton|work> have a good weekend
  • [17:58:43] <ds2> zOMG is not OMG in the Z axis?
  • [17:58:44] <ds2> ;)
  • [17:58:49] <ds2> morning
  • [17:58:55] <sakoman> ah, so then it shouldn't ZOMG, it should be zomg
  • [17:59:17] <mru> sakoman: no, it should be zzzzzomzzgzzz
  • [17:59:19] <ds2> solar: yes, I am sure. If you read that page, you'll see that openocd can id and select chains but can't do much because Cortex-A8 support is not there
  • [17:59:50] <sakoman> mru: depends on how fast you type :-)
  • [18:00:20] <ds2> solar: I think either dirk or prpplague might know more
  • [18:00:37] <mru> sakoman: the faster you type, the faster your repeat rate should be
  • [18:00:48] <sakoman> :-)
  • [18:01:28] <sakoman> I mean z;-z0
  • [18:06:12] <Crofton|work> Gordon is not real consistent on the naming
  • [18:06:22] <Crofton|work> he calls a lot of GPMC stuff EM_
  • [18:06:31] <Crofton|work> then we have GPMC_nWE
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  • [18:08:05] <sakoman> Crofton|work: he has his quirks :-)
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  • [18:08:11] <Crofton|work> yeah
  • [18:08:20] <Crofton|work> can't find it in the netlist either
  • [18:08:49] <Crofton|work> It is tough working without the overo schematic
  • [18:09:05] <Crofton|work> I am pretty sure I know what is going on
  • [18:09:10] <sakoman> a common complaint
  • [18:09:17] <Crofton|work> yeah
  • [18:09:19] <sakoman> just ask if you find something confusing
  • [18:09:21] <Crofton|work> I've seen that
  • [18:09:24] <Crofton|work> yeah
  • [18:09:26] <Crofton|work> we will
  • [18:09:36] <Crofton|work> I should convert what I am doing to a wiki page ....
  • [18:09:40] <sakoman> look at the Toby schematic
  • [18:09:48] <Crofton|work> basically, working out which pins are free on the summit :)
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  • [18:09:49] <sakoman> it uses gpmc
  • [18:10:03] <Crofton|work> good point
  • [18:10:15] <sakoman> should make it really easy for you then
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  • [18:14:09] <Russ> I like it better when they don't quite know the spellings early on, so you see a few connections called, for example, GMPC
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  • [18:30:43] <Russ> jkridner|work: you know much about getting VDD1 and VDD2 turned of with the TWL4030?
  • [18:31:41] <Russ> I'm tried via smartreflex (i2c-3) but it seems I can only put the supplies to sleep, and I've tried with nSLEEP and making a sequence of power bus commands, but no success
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  • [18:37:57] <koen> Russ: does your chip have the efuses blown needed for smartreflex?
  • [18:39:03] <Russ> see, thats why I skipped all the smartreflex sections for a long time
  • [18:39:16] <Russ> but its just the omap3430 with the fuses, right?
  • [18:39:27] <koen> AFAIK there are no beagleboards that support smartreflex
  • [18:39:49] <Russ> right, right, but its not smartreflex, its the smartreflex i2c interface
  • [18:40:06] <koen> hmmm
  • [18:40:23] <koen> I only know that to do SR you need info from the fuses
  • [18:40:49] <koen> you could try the 'testing' ones in the kernel, but my beagle didn't agree with those
  • [18:40:52] <Russ> but are the efuses on the omap, or the twl4030
  • [18:40:59] <koen> omap
  • [18:41:10] <Russ> then the i2c interface still works
  • [18:41:22] <koen> after production the omap gets tested and efuses get blown to encode the test info
  • [18:41:25] <koen> AIUI
  • [18:42:15] <Russ> look at the VDD1_SR_CONTROL and VDD2_SR_CONTROL registers in the TPS65950 manual
  • [18:43:04] <Russ> then look at 1.14.2.13 in the OMAP35x power, reset, and clock management manual
  • [18:43:25] <Russ> all the i2c stuff its talking about send commands via I2C4
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  • [18:44:47] <koen> isn't i2c4 the private twl channel?
  • [18:45:18] <Russ> there are two i2c busses connected to the twl
  • [18:45:57] <Russ> I2C1 and I2C4
  • [18:48:41] * koen seems to have forgotten a lot since last year
  • [18:48:55] <koen> which was the last time I looked at SR and friends
  • [18:49:12] <Russ> I2C4 just has the two SR registers
  • [18:49:47] <Russ> but the sleep mode i2c commands really have nothing to do with them, except that it can only send commands using the I2C4 bus
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  • [18:51:03] <Russ> I think for it to work, I need to find the SR enable bit on the TWL4030
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  • [18:55:01] <Russ> but even then, it might not be capable of actually turning off VDD1/VDD2
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  • [20:05:19] * djlewis wants to know who is working on the spca and z3xxx drivers for webcam?
  • [20:05:38] <koen> djlewis: check the MAINTAINERS file in the kernel source tree
  • [20:05:55] <djlewis> Hi koen, I dont have access to this.
  • [20:06:05] <koen> sure you do
  • [20:06:12] <koen> download kernel source, unpack
  • [20:06:24] <koen> you're on IRC, so you have internet
  • [20:06:44] <djlewis> Oh, I was thinking you meant for those with OE and GIT stff installed.
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  • [20:08:33] <djlewis> tnx koen, i'll look.
  • [20:09:47] <ds> anyone have a pointer to an article specifically discussing codec performance (or similar) on the DSP?
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  • [20:53:07] <vlad_> hrm.. does anyone know how the version of libc affects gcc?
  • [20:53:19] <vlad_> I see versions of cs2007q3 built for libc 2.5, though I'd like to use a target with 2.9
  • [20:53:22] <vlad_> and am not quite sure how that works
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  • [21:56:44] <Russ> odd, fetching the omap tree downloaded 7.63MB in changesets, but I only see about
  • [21:56:47] <Russ> 8 commits
  • [22:00:46] <Russ> "Receiving objects: 100% (41318/41318), 7.63 MiB | 320 KiB/s, done."
  • [22:00:56] <Russ> " 4311ae5..1232332 master -> omap/master"
  • [22:01:11] <geckosen1tor> well maybe they are big changes
  • [22:01:22] <Russ> no, I'm looking at them
  • [22:01:43] <Russ> 15 files changed
  • [22:02:22] <geckosen1tor> hmm
  • [22:02:36] <geckosen1tor> well maybe they added a bunch of files and deleted them
  • [22:02:40] <geckosen1tor> within the 8 commits
  • [22:02:41] <Russ> why not geckosen4tor?
  • [22:02:53] <Russ> geckosen1tor: nope, it looks really mundane
  • [22:04:34] <Russ> I count what should be 58 objects (commit+tree+blob)
  • [22:05:00] <geckosen1tor> well I'm out of ideas
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  • [23:03:38] <TheUni> using the latest angstrom kernel, what should my video driver be set to in xorg.conf?
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  • [23:12:20] <Russ> omapfb
  • [23:18:13] <Russ> bah, pointers are not permitted as case values
  • [23:18:31] <ds2> (unsigned long)pointer
  • [23:18:33] <ds2> ;)
  • [23:18:47] <Russ> I think then it would say something about casted values not being permitted
  • [23:19:20] <Russ> "error: case label does not reduce to an integer constant"
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  • [23:23:52] <TheUni> omapfb does not work :\
  • [23:25:03] <TheUni> usr/lib/dri/swrast_dri.so: cannot open shared object file
  • [23:26:11] <Russ> well don't try to use dri then
  • [23:27:53] <TheUni> no dri to be found in xorg.conf
  • [23:28:12] <Russ> actually I get a similar error, but X runs just fine
  • [23:29:02] <TheUni> mmm
  • [23:30:29] <TheUni> i need to just wipe and start over with a new rootfs, but no cardreader atm
  • [23:30:35] <TheUni> guess i'll just wait till tomorrow
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