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  • [01:33:36] <bbotti> anyone know what rev of silicon each of the beagle versions has? B6, B7, and C2 (proposed)?
  • [01:33:45] <bbotti> the manual has conflicting information
  • [01:34:24] <bbotti> robtow: to you know?
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  • [01:39:20] <ds2> C2 + B7 should be ES3
  • [01:40:26] <mru> pre-B7 are all ES2.1
  • [01:40:40] <mru> B7, C0, and C1D are ES3.0
  • [01:40:46] <ds2> I have a pre B7 that is ES2.2
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  • [01:40:54] <mru> C2 will probably be ES3.0 as well
  • [01:40:56] <ds2> so that can't be the case or the code to deciper it is broq
  • [01:41:02] <mru> I didn't even know there was a 2.2
  • [01:41:33] <mru> I know there's a 3.1 revision of the chip
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  • [01:51:24] <bbotti> thanks all
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  • [02:02:29] <javaJake> Darn it! I know I saw documentation somewhere on how to use USB host mode without a proper mini-USB A cable. Anyone know where that is?
  • [02:02:48] <javaJake> I can't find it, but I know I saw it somewhere. :/
  • [02:02:57] <jkridner> you can just compile it in.
  • [02:03:38] <javaJake> No, no, this is without the right cable. IIRC, you short two pins on the BB; I just don't remember which.
  • [02:03:48] <javaJake> That'd be important ;)
  • [02:03:56] <jkridner> some versions of kernel can also let perform sysfs instructions to notify the kernel.
  • [02:04:00] <jkridner> you can also short pins 4 and 5.
  • [02:04:02] <jkridner> indeed. there is a picture on flickr.
  • [02:04:07] <javaJake> 4 and 5, OK.
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  • [02:41:00] <Beagle6> can someone answer a angstrom distribution question?
  • [02:44:38] <javaJake> Folks around here won't be able to answer that question. Try the next one. ;)
  • [02:47:52] <Beagle6> if i build the beagleboard-demo target in bitbake, which kernel would it be using. I was trying to figure it out by the bitbake recipes, but I'm not sure how
  • [03:03:50] <ds2> ob hint of the day - cpio by default WILL honor paths from '/' inside an archive :(
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  • [03:10:45] <mru> that could hurt
  • [03:11:42] <ds2> I am SO happy for unionfs right now
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  • [03:23:16] <jkridner> Beagle6: I believe the default is 2.6.27.
  • [03:23:43] <vu3rdd> jkridner: good evening
  • [03:24:00] <jkridner> hi vu3rdd.
  • [03:24:28] <jkridner> are you to the point where you can run the dsplink-app demos.
  • [03:24:29] <jkridner> ?
  • [03:25:54] <jkridner> vu3rdd: only hesitation going through the CCS setup right now is that I don't have a WinXP machine in front of me.
  • [03:26:17] <jkridner> vu3rdd: and I should probably leave the PC soon to pay attention to what is going on around the house.
  • [03:26:28] <jkridner> vu3rdd: but, let's see where we can get quickly.
  • [03:27:38] <vu3rdd> jkridner: no hurry, let us do it later. Perhaps tomorrow morning or evening?
  • [03:28:10] <jkridner> I'm usually on in the mornings US time. that might be good.
  • [03:28:19] <jkridner> have you installed dsplink yet?
  • [03:28:31] <jkridner> you'll need it (or something else) to take the DSP out of reset.
  • [03:28:39] <vu3rdd> yes, I installed dsplink, ce etc on my linux partition
  • [03:28:46] <vu3rdd> oh.. ok
  • [03:28:49] <jkridner> oh, the sources?
  • [03:28:55] <jkridner> I mean the binaries on the target.
  • [03:29:07] <jkridner> they are included as part of Angstrom, if you are using that.
  • [03:29:08] <vu3rdd> the bin packages provided at the targetcontent webpages
  • [03:29:22] <jkridner> hmmm.... so, you are running an old kernel?
  • [03:29:46] <vu3rdd> I have a custom angstrom image on the board now. Will remoe that and put the angstrom demo images
  • [03:29:55] <vu3rdd> I am running 2.6.28
  • [03:30:16] <jkridner> I don't think the bin packages from the targetcontent webpages will work with 2.6.28.
  • [03:30:24] <vu3rdd> ok
  • [03:30:45] <vu3rdd> let me then build the ones from angstrom or rather put the demo images into it
  • [03:31:20] <jkridner> k
  • [03:32:12] <ds2> Hmm I wonder if the PM branch behaves well with DSPlink
  • [03:33:03] <vu3rdd> jkridner: will talk to you tomorrow morning then. I will have the CE, dsplink etc setup by tomorrow. Thanks.
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  • [03:37:41] <Batko_Marto> hey guys I'm trying to get the linux-libc-headers as a package so i can compile stuff on the beagle. The latest linux-libc-headers recipe was for kernel 2.6.25 though. Any ideas how to get the recent one for 2.6.28 ?
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  • [04:51:16] <kulve> Batko_Marto: usually people don't build stuff in the beagle. But I think OE should have the needed packages, if you want to install gcc etc. to the device
  • [04:52:10] <Batko_Marto> yeah i just figured it out.
  • [04:52:29] <ds2> usually? heh... I prefer to compile on the beagle
  • [04:52:34] <Batko_Marto> the reason that i needed the gcc is because i want to compile a c program that uses gstreamer
  • [04:52:58] <ds2> but then I don't use OE ;)
  • [04:54:28] <Batko_Marto> and gstreamer is compiled with pkgconfig
  • [04:54:46] <ds2> yep, gstreamer has all the evil sauces...pkgconfig, libtool, etc
  • [04:54:53] <Batko_Marto> true
  • [04:55:11] <Batko_Marto> i don't know of any other way to compile it outside of the beagle
  • [04:55:30] <ds2> it can be done but you can wind up bald before you are done :D
  • [04:56:04] <Batko_Marto> yeah i'd rather do it the easy way
  • [04:58:21] <Batko_Marto> i'm just going to use the 2.6.23 linux-libc-headers. it's the same for .25 as well except there are 3-4 patches. I think it should be safe to use it right?
  • [04:59:04] <ds2> try it
  • [04:59:22] <ds2> it is easy enough to swap out the kernel headers if you need to
  • [04:59:30] <Batko_Marto> well i don't have the beagle with me at the moment but i'll try tomorrow
  • [04:59:53] <ds2> the biggest risk you are likely to run into is a mismatched struct that gets passed to ioctl's
  • [05:00:32] <Batko_Marto> well it shouldn't be that much of a hassle
  • [05:01:17] <Batko_Marto> if anything i'll just have to copy over the includes from the 2.6.28 kernel
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  • [05:02:11] <Batko_Marto> but it's better to get a nice image in the end that has everything in it
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  • [05:03:16] <ds2> yep
  • [05:03:35] <ds2> that's what hate about distros...each one hastheir own way of doing it and it is so much easier to just do it w/o the distro crap
  • [05:04:30] <Batko_Marto> it's weird when you get used to one way of doing things then the next distro is different
  • [05:06:28] <Batko_Marto> anyway. goodnight guys.
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  • [05:56:07] <kulve> ds2: have you tried to compile e.g. gecko engine on the beagle? :)
  • [05:58:44] <ds2> kulve: no, hadn't had a need to
  • [06:02:06] <kulve> I guess you would bumb into troubles then.. I takes way more memory than the beagle have
  • [06:03:27] <kulve> ds2: if you want a simple way of building a "distro", check the ALIP. We try to use the upstream components as is, with as little meta data as possible (and because of this there are still quite big things missing). ALIP is mean to be a base for custom projects and not to be anything more than a demo thing as-is.
  • [06:06:25] <ds2> kulve: I can do that part reasonably well by myself
  • [06:06:29] <ds2> been doing that for ages
  • [06:08:51] <kulve> ds2: we too. But it's easier when there's a tool what that and somebody else makes the upgrades :)
  • [06:09:19] <kulve> and there's > 150 components even in a basic build with browser and matchbox -components
  • [06:09:53] <ds2> I find it the opposite
  • [06:10:13] <kulve> well, then I guess ALIP is not for you
  • [06:10:15] <ds2> as an experiment, I tried doing things on the eeePC by following the distro stuff
  • [06:10:30] <ds2> took about 10x as long as it should having to search for the right repos
  • [06:10:48] <kulve> http://linux.onarm.com/gitweb/
  • [06:11:00] <kulve> and matrix tool downloads the dependencies in one directory for you
  • [06:11:44] <kulve> in git repositories. In ALIP we usually compile everything instead of installing packages (as we don't have packaging support yet)
  • [06:13:01] <ds2> that works until the project decides to move their repos around or until sf changes things around YET another
  • [06:13:27] <kulve> that's why we don't depend on external sources
  • [06:14:02] <kulve> and we have stable branches that really is recommended to be used. Those branches get only small bug fixes, nothing major will change
  • [06:14:43] <ds2> the problem I see with that is if you need some feature in a newer version and that yanks in a mile of dependancies that is not in the repo
  • [06:16:31] <kulve> that's a problem yes. We try to release every 6 months and we try to keep all the major components as the latest releases during our stable release so that even after 6 months it would be so old. And if you are developing a component, you can keep that one quite easily up-to-date yourself (as they are all git repos which hopefully the upstream uses as well)
  • [06:17:00] <kulve> ..wouldn't be so old..
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  • [06:47:53] <tomba> I've now tried github and gitorious for DSS2. github worked, but was very slow, and it can't show history (just says processing is taking too long). gitorious seems faster, but I can't even push there, I just get post-receive error.
  • [06:48:06] <tomba> I guess I'll just keep my http based repo =)
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  • [06:55:57] <robin> hello everyone
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  • [07:04:19] <garren|work> morning all
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  • [07:28:55] <sakoman> tomba: I push my repos to gitorious all the time (once an hour)
  • [07:29:11] <sakoman> haven't had any issues
  • [07:30:39] <sakoman> wonder what the problem is
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  • [08:01:34] <tomba> sakoman: u-boot or linux sources? I guess the size is the problem here
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  • [08:32:19] <methril> Good morning
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  • [08:42:07] <recalcati> good morning
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  • [08:50:49] <tthtlc> hello i would like ask who have done uclibc's buildroot compilation for beagleboard before?
  • [08:51:16] <tthtlc> or can beagleboard be used with uclibc in the first place?
  • [08:52:44] <tthtlc> does anyone use buildroot with beagleboard?
  • [08:54:54] <tthtlc> hello??????
  • [08:55:12] <koen> use openembedded
  • [08:55:18] <koen> buildroot is so last century
  • [08:57:19] <garren|work> lol
  • [08:57:36] <AV500> buildroot rocks!
  • [08:57:58] <AV500> tthtlc: OMAP3 runs fine with uclibc and buildroot
  • [08:58:09] <AV500> see our sources for more info
  • [08:58:29] <AV500> but I guess you will want OE in the end :-)
  • [09:03:21] <tthtlc> ok...thanks.
  • [09:03:52] <tthtlc> but in buildroot....my first processor is ARM....but then there is no way to enter "A8 cortex"?
  • [09:04:13] <AV500> see: http://www.archos.com/support/download/software/sources/AX06_GPL.tar.bz2
  • [09:04:29] <AV500> there is a modifed br for cortex including toolchain
  • [09:13:23] <koen> so "works fine" actually means "lacks supports, but if you use the archos one it sort of has support"
  • [09:14:02] <AV500> we migrated our br from Davinci to cortex, but we do no cater to the crowd that wants to do N+1 things with it
  • [09:14:18] <AV500> so our choise is not the one for the "hacker crowds"
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  • [09:21:26] <_boto> hi koen
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  • [09:42:40] <florian> good morning
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  • [10:15:23] <khasim> has some one tried the musb tty support ?
  • [10:15:29] <khasim> in u-boot
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  • [12:22:42] <jkridner> good morning all
  • [12:22:47] <craw> morning
  • [12:23:08] <florian> hi jkridner
  • [12:24:13] <mru> morning
  • [12:25:10] <jkridner> anything new? anybody trying the usbtty stuff?
  • [12:26:36] * jkridner is noticing that tomba put out an EDID hack for Beagle.
  • [12:27:40] * jkridner is not ready to be awake this morning.
  • [12:28:31] <tomba> even if you try the edid hack, don't read the code.
  • [12:28:50] <jkridner> :)
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  • [12:46:11] <mpoullet> ***mpoullet finds the EDID hack great :-D
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  • [12:47:20] <khasim> jkridner: I am working on tty stuff
  • [12:47:36] <khasim> jkridner: I am not getting USB keyboard to work for tty...
  • [12:48:00] <khasim> I found that usbtty poll routine hangs while waiting for updates
  • [12:48:19] <khasim> not sure on how to fix them, still debugging.
  • [12:48:20] <garren|work> EDID? whats that?
  • [12:49:01] <khasim> tomba: I got a DVI monitor, tried all sorts of resolutions with bootargs, I get only floating lines...
  • [12:49:03] <jkridner> garren|work: it provides information about your monitor. It is essentially an I2C EEPROM on your monitor.
  • [12:49:23] <khasim> tomba: can I get some thing out of edid patch and probably give out exact resolution
  • [12:50:21] <khasim> the other bad thing is, the power measurement registers still read 0s ...
  • [12:50:30] <koen> garren|work: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_display_identification_data
  • [12:52:19] <tomba> khasim: if the edid hack gets you a picture, you can get the timings information from there and use them without the hack
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  • [12:54:29] <ali_as> garren|work, my understanding is its the part of DVI where the monitor tells the display device which resolutions and frequencies it can support.
  • [12:56:15] <ali_as> Unfortunatly, this tends to result in devices refusing to set themselves to modes the display can actually display.
  • [12:57:59] <jkridner> ali_as: I cannot imagine the automatic setting of the display mode by use of EDID cannot be overridden with manual settings.
  • [12:58:10] <jkridner> so, I don't see this as a problem.
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  • [12:58:37] <ali_as> It affects a lot of consumer electronics.
  • [13:00:39] <ali_as> Particulally where devices expecting HDMI meet a DVI device, like a monitor.
  • [13:02:26] <garren|work> jkridner, koen: cool thanks I'll read up about it
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  • [13:15:54] <_boto> i try to build a plugin for firefox
  • [13:16:11] <_boto> i have setup the makefile and a recipe
  • [13:16:43] <_boto> the only problem is: how can i get the path to mozilla sdk include?
  • [13:17:03] <_boto> it is needed by the plugin sources
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  • [13:22:47] <_boto> i have seen swdef plugin seem not to use the firefox plugin headers, instead the package has an own copy (mozilla-sucks folder)
  • [13:22:57] <_boto> hmmm
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  • [13:44:09] <royerfa> Hi everybody
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  • [13:44:42] <royerfa> Aan you tell me if I can use the NFS with the Beagleboard RV B4
  • [13:44:55] <royerfa> I have U-boot pre-flashed on it
  • [13:45:04] <royerfa> uboot 1.3.3
  • [13:45:19] <royerfa> but there is no dhcp command or ping command
  • [13:45:21] <royerfa> ??
  • [13:46:00] <royerfa> Do I need to flash a new U-boot ?
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  • [13:47:30] <adj> u-boot is just an OS loader, you'll need also some operating system like linux
  • [13:50:28] <adj> and yes, you can use NFS with BB but you'll need much more than just u-boot
  • [13:52:48] <_boto> royerfa: consider following points when trying to mount the rootfs from NFS ...
  • [13:53:25] <_boto> 1. afaik the initial boot process (uImage) cannot be done by NSF as the uboot does not support that atm
  • [13:53:38] <_boto> 2. setup a host with proper nfs export
  • [13:54:31] <_boto> 3. be sure that your ethernet interface is operatable on booting! i.e. the ethernet driver for your system must have its drivers built into UImage
  • [13:54:41] <koen> just use an sd card and use something like sshfs to mount the beagle filesystem on the host
  • [13:54:54] <_boto> 3.1. i had success with Linksys's usb/ethernet stick
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  • [13:55:40] <_boto> 4. setup your ethernet interface to get a fix ip address, the same during boot time and the same during remounting rootfs from NFS
  • [13:56:28] <_boto> 4.1. the setting for boottime ip can be done in bootargs, the latter must be done in your rootfs' /etc/network/interfaces
  • [13:57:07] <_boto> if the ips do not match then your nfs server won't serve when trying to remount your fs!
  • [13:57:35] <_boto> koen: any idea due to the firefox plugin problem?
  • [13:59:06] <koen> _boto: it should end up somewhere in ${STAGING_INCDIR}
  • [13:59:24] <koen> _boto: the the swfdec was is the least painfull
  • [13:59:29] <koen> s/the the/but the/
  • [13:59:34] <_boto> hehe
  • [13:59:42] <_boto> thanks for the hint :-)
  • [13:59:48] <koen> since webkit supports NPAPI as well
  • [13:59:56] <_boto> ah
  • [14:00:07] <koen> no use in spending 3 hours building mozilla when you only need it for webkit
  • [14:00:34] <_boto> i am trying to build a specific plugin for firefox
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  • [14:02:14] <koen> _boto: btw, your post to oe-devel hasn't shown up yet
  • [14:02:34] <_boto> err, i have seen it
  • [14:02:46] <_boto> i have posted into issue ml
  • [14:03:08] <_boto> i wondered that the rest of mails were created by bugzilla
  • [14:03:42] <_boto> http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-issues/
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  • [14:05:50] * koen mentioned 'oe-devel', not 'oe-issues'
  • [14:05:58] <_boto> oops
  • [14:06:14] <_boto> may i re-post it to oe-devel?
  • [14:06:37] <koen> yes
  • [14:06:44] <_boto> oh, i have to subscribe first, it take about 1 day :-(
  • [14:06:49] <_boto> +s
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  • [14:12:01] <royerfa> ok THx
  • [14:12:16] <royerfa> I think I will use sshfs
  • [14:12:17] <jkridner> I'm getting different DSS2 behavior on OE's 2.6.28-r12 vs. 2.6.28-r8. I'm not getting into the same video mode with omapfb.videomode=1280x720M-24@60.
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  • [14:14:22] <royerfa> My problem as well was that in this U-boot there is no tftpboot command
  • [14:14:41] <royerfa> so difficult to get my own kernel
  • [14:15:05] <adj> how so? use SD card
  • [14:15:21] <royerfa> ok
  • [14:16:00] <royerfa> and do you have on BeagleWeb site, just a Basic file system
  • [14:16:10] <sakoman> tomba: sorry, went to sleep :-)
  • [14:16:12] <royerfa> with just the busybox
  • [14:16:24] <sakoman> repos I push are u-boot and OE
  • [14:16:55] <sakoman> I've got a clone of your repo that I can try to push as an experiment if you like
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  • [14:18:26] <jkridner> the latest Angstrom demo gives me errors in text: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/13763cd18b4388f132a0bfa0b5f43cf9.png
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  • [14:18:59] <jkridner> also, I have some problems with some permissions issues.
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  • [14:20:25] * jkridner is reading http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-security-4/su-cannot-set-groups-operation-not-permitted-620851/
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  • [14:21:57] <sakoman> jkridner: I noticed text issues on my build from last night too
  • [14:22:21] <Alex_Ionescu> hi guys, question: the code responsible for peripheral boot (say, serial), is located in the first-stage loader on the OMAP ROM, correct?
  • [14:22:36] <sakoman> for some reason can't download your png, so I can't confirm it is exactly the same issue
  • [14:22:54] <jkridner> Alex_Ionescu: correct
  • [14:23:29] <Alex_Ionescu> jkridner: is the ROM code source available anywhere? (or alternatively, a binary so I can use IDA to disassemble it)
  • [14:23:56] <jkridner> I used scap.linuxtogo.org, which goes down often and may have timed-out (they don't keep them there that long)
  • [14:25:06] <sakoman> jkridner: trying an even fresher build right now, I'll see if it has the same issue
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  • [14:26:09] <khasim> sakoman: I was looking for a patch that fixed the USB tty hang issue in u-boot..
  • [14:26:36] <khasim> jkridner mentioned there was a discussion on the same on IRC, not able to find one,
  • [14:26:42] <sakoman> khasim: I don't think there is one yet
  • [14:27:10] <khasim> so, on overo does the musb + u-boot hang ?
  • [14:27:31] <Alex_Ionescu> also, is there a "cleaner" version of the u-boot-1.3.3 source anywhere, maybe with comments? the version off code.google.com has loads of direct, uncommented, unconstanted, writes all over the register space
  • [14:27:38] <tomba> jkridner: you have to use R, otherwise the timings are illegal and I guess different DSS2 versions handle it a bit differently
  • [14:27:47] <sakoman> khasim: there was this attempt, but from what I have read it doesn't work: http://www.sakoman.net/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=u-boot-omap3.git;a=commit;h=c3be870074630c1bd7aa6e8275724319390a25d1
  • [14:28:15] <khasim> Alex_Ionescu:http://www.beagleboard.org/gitweb/?p=u-boot-arm.git;a=shortlog;h=revc-validation-20090203d
  • [14:28:29] <sakoman> khasim: I haven't tried it since Overo already has a USB console implementation in hardware
  • [14:28:33] <khasim> sakoman: thanks will look into this
  • [14:29:38] <Alex_Ionescu> khasim: a bit better I guess, but dss_init is still the same :(
  • [14:30:52] <Alex_Ionescu> also the GPIOs that are being set in misc_init_r...I looked over the documentation and I couldn't find what they're used for
  • [14:31:29] <khasim> Alex_Ionescu: for gpios you can look at the schematics for definition
  • [14:32:19] <khasim> Alex_Ionescu: few should be for turning the leds on, DVI enabling, keeping the expansion pins in some GPIO state to probe
  • [14:32:41] <jkridner> uploaded the patch again: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/e37ca0de493cd04b2511a762eb4a6c3e.png
  • [14:32:46] <khasim> dss_init was changed a bit based on dirk's comments
  • [14:32:59] <khasim> few parameters are changed to work with angstrom
  • [14:34:03] <Alex_Ionescu> khasim: yeah, I was able to figure out the GPIOs in dss_init are for LCD_BLKEN and stuff
  • [14:34:20] <khasim> sakoman: tried the patch it doesn't fix the hang yet :(
  • [14:37:03] <koen> jkridner: is the text issue in 32bpp or 16bpp?
  • [14:37:05] <koen> jkridner: or both
  • [14:37:07] <koen> ?
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  • [14:38:26] <jkridner> I haven't tried 16.
  • [14:38:40] <Alex_Ionescu> khasim: this u-boot doesnt' seem to do all the magic DPLL3/4 initialization done by the "official" one... is all that clock configuration not really needed?
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  • [14:39:25] <koen> jkridner: I tested the image with 16bpp before uploading it
  • [14:39:44] <jkridner> any easy way for me to switch to 16bpp?
  • [14:39:45] <koen> jkridner: since those *#(@*$(@$(@ SGX drivers are a massive FAIL with 32bpp
  • [14:39:56] <jkridner> ah.
  • [14:39:57] <koen> jkridner: boot with MR-16
  • [14:40:08] <jkridner> and I'm trying to get SGX stuff working. :)
  • [14:40:33] <koen> it won't initialize EGL is you use 32bpp
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  • [14:53:19] <javaJake> jkridner: go go go! :)
  • [14:55:17] <jkridner> the release candidate is available inside TI, but it includes OE components that I don't know how to install/use.
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  • [14:56:29] <jkridner> right now, I'm having problems getting the video mode to 1280x720MR-16@60.
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  • [14:56:45] <jkridner> It keeps falling back to 640x480-32@60.
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  • [15:06:37] <royerfa> I am working with angstrom
  • [15:06:53] <koen> royerfa: have you setup openembedded yet?
  • [15:07:02] <royerfa> without keyboard Mouse and without Screen
  • [15:07:09] <royerfa> I booted
  • [15:07:33] <royerfa> And I trie to ping my server but it is failing
  • [15:07:58] <royerfa> Maybe because the board is using a Hub
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  • [15:08:24] <royerfa> a usb Hub inbetween the ethernet adaptor
  • [15:08:43] <royerfa> I am booting from a SD card
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  • [15:11:39] <royerfa> WHen I said ": without keyboard Mouse and without Screen" I mean I am just using the console
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  • [15:23:07] * jkridner must stop multitasking so much. omapfb.videomode != omapfb.video_mode :(
  • [15:23:26] <koen> right
  • [15:23:42] <koen> my spellchecker removes the _ for me in mails
  • [15:24:08] <jkridner> nice that it gets that "right" for you.
  • [15:24:39] <jkridner> text is better in 16bpp mode.
  • [15:26:23] <jkridner> sometimes it still amazes me how pretty this looks running on a 720P TV.
  • [15:26:44] <koen> jkridner: I suspect the new NEON accelerated pixman is cutting some corners
  • [15:27:43] <sakoman> jkridner: I have a text issue on my latest build too
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  • [15:28:15] <sakoman> seems to be font related - only characters that are underlined are screwed up
  • [15:28:26] <sakoman> I am currently runing in 24 bit mode
  • [15:28:51] <sakoman> will try 16bpp
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  • [15:34:24] <atin_> ddompe: ping?
  • [15:34:35] <ddompe> atin_: pong
  • [15:35:06] <atin_> ddompe: I can't figure out why the hang is happening when I hit the reset button a few times, but not when I type "reset" at the u-boot prompt!
  • [15:35:27] <atin_> ddompe: I thought they'd be doing the same thing
  • [15:35:42] <ddompe> mmm'
  • [15:35:44] <atin_> ddompe: but it seems like the reset button is leaving some state while the reset command is really doing a reset
  • [15:35:47] <ddompe> <thinking>
  • [15:36:12] <atin_> ddompe: or maybe is making it so that the init isn't going thru correctly.
  • [15:36:29] <atin_> ddompe: since both lose the cdc_acm when I hit the button or command
  • [15:36:42] <atin_> ddompe: but in one it always comes back when u-boot starts, while the other doesn't.
  • [15:37:15] <sakoman> jkridner,koen: text problems disappear for me with 16bpp
  • [15:37:16] <atin_> ddompe: also, I always get a "T+GCAP" on the prompt and I figured out what that was - its the "AT+GCAP" command being sent by linux to the "modem"
  • [15:37:31] <koen> sakoman: ah, so that's why I didn't notice them in my testing
  • [15:37:46] <sakoman> so I guess we know there are issues at 24 and 32bpp for underline chars
  • [15:37:51] <ddompe> atin_: LOL, yes
  • [15:37:57] <atin_> ddompe: tho I don't know how to make that go away
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  • [15:38:24] <ddompe> give me a change, 6 people talking to me
  • [15:38:28] <atin_> k
  • [15:38:46] <jkridner> I get Windows sending AT commands to my u-boot as well.
  • [15:40:12] <royerfa> When I do ifconfig
  • [15:40:25] <royerfa> there is no eth devie !
  • [15:40:48] <royerfa> just usb and lo device
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  • [15:41:01] <royerfa> How can I create or enable this eth0
  • [15:41:03] <royerfa> ?
  • [15:41:15] <mru> usb0 is the one you want
  • [15:41:15] <sakoman> koen: DVD play seems slightly more jerky at 16bpp
  • [15:41:44] <[X]Spot> Hi all.... what is the smallest application in Agnstrom reposirory for playing mp3 files (in console).. mplayer is too big for me ;)
  • [15:42:44] <koen> madplay probably
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  • [15:47:53] <ddompe> atin_: I'm back
  • [15:48:23] <atin_> ddompe: so, ideas on why we freeze the usbtty after a few reset button hits?
  • [15:48:27] <atin_> ddompe: :)
  • [15:48:35] <atin_> ddompe: and not when we type "reset"
  • [15:48:43] <koen> atin_: iirc the reset button is wired to the twl
  • [15:48:45] <atin_> ddompe: pain . . . I thought the two did the same thing.
  • [15:48:58] <koen> atin_: check the beagle manual to be sure
  • [15:49:03] <ddompe> do you see some message on the serial console
  • [15:49:17] <ddompe> as koen points out, it likely an twl issue
  • [15:49:24] <atin_> ddompe: no - I just get that T+GCAP message - tho whenever I get that message, it works :)
  • [15:49:36] <atin_> ddompe: the only times it doesn't work, it means that it has gone into countdown
  • [15:50:20] <ddompe> atin_: I mean if you see any error message from the USB init in the RS232 port
  • [15:50:36] <atin_> ddompe, koen: I've tried soft reseting the twl, mucking with the power register, restarting the session etc.
  • [15:50:50] <atin_> ddompe: no, nothing - just goes into countdown and that usually means that the usbtty is hung
  • [15:51:12] <atin_> ddompe: you can see it too -- just hit reset everytime it boots up
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  • [15:51:34] <atin_> ddompe: don't let it go to linux. just hit reset everytime it goes to countdown or to the u-boot prompt
  • [15:51:52] <ddompe> ok, I will try on lunch time
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  • [15:52:23] <atin_> ddompe: I lose th modem everytime I hit reset, and it comes back a few times before leaving taking a coffee break until I tell uboot to "reset"
  • [15:53:16] <atin_> ddompe: I have so many changes in there now that I've lost track :) - but none helped, so I can throw them all away as far as I can tell.
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  • [16:07:20] <atin_> TI folks: is the TMS3200M320 a TI chip?
  • [16:07:43] <atin_> DSP something or other ...
  • [16:08:04] <atin_> I saw links on google but it might be an older chip now because TI doesn't seem to mention it anymore
  • [16:08:14] <AV500> DM320?
  • [16:08:39] <atin_> the chip says TMS3200M320 ZHK on it ...
  • [16:09:43] <atin_> it seemed to be a DSP chip - one of a family 5000 or 6000?
  • [16:10:16] <atin_> now all the references to it I see are chinese distributors!
  • [16:10:17] <AV500> yes, it is inside a cowon MP3 player
  • [16:10:24] <AV500> http://player.ru/talk/showthread.php?t=13872&page=49
  • [16:11:02] <atin_> its in my digital photo frame too
  • [16:11:17] <atin_> and I'm thinking if only I could just get into it :)
  • [16:11:47] <AV500> dont bother
  • [16:12:13] <tomba> yay OFF mode works with DSS2 now on SDP
  • [16:12:23] <atin_> or if I could get the specs for the CPT CLAA070VA01 LCD screen
  • [16:12:55] <atin_> I really should have gone into hardware . . .
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  • [16:13:35] <atin_> so I could make a board to connect the screen to the beagle.
  • [16:13:45] <AV500> atin_: http://www.beyondinfinite.com/product/lcd/cpt_lcd_display.html
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  • [16:14:14] <atin_> AV500: yeah, I found that too - my digital photo frame uses that lcd
  • [16:14:42] <atin_> AV500: now I need a hardware designer to make me a board to connect that to the beagle :)
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  • [16:15:50] <atin_> I personally wish we had an LCD port rather than the S-video since I dont' have a TV!
  • [16:16:23] <atin_> (got rid of it - got a dongle for the computer instead)
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  • [16:18:22] <atin_> I wish people didn't make hardware that we couldn't get into and run our own code! I have a perfectly adequate digital photo frame but its software sucks!!
  • [16:18:49] <jkridner> atin_: that certainly looks like a TI part number, and we do make a DM320.
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  • [16:19:23] <jkridner> hi RogerMon1
  • [16:19:23] <atin_> jkridner: this seems to say TMS3200 on it - tho must be an older part.
  • [16:20:22] <jkridner> DM320 is a nice part. ARM9, C54x DSP, imaging/video accelerators (similar accelerators to DM6446).
  • [16:20:37] <AV500> jkridner: was nice 3 years ago :-)
  • [16:21:20] <atin_> AV500: yes, that's about when I bought this digital frame
  • [16:21:27] <jkridner> was fancy 3 years ago. today, I'd think it'd be rather affordable, but I wouldn't push it for new designs.
  • [16:21:32] <jkridner> better to start with DM355.
  • [16:21:32] <atin_> AV500: well, two years ago.
  • [16:21:49] <jkridner> DM355 is rather affordable.
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  • [16:22:25] <atin_> jkridner: its the processor that's in my digital photo frame. of course, I don't think I can hack into the frame to make it run my own software. and I am not hardware saavy enough to build something to take its lcd screen and put it on the beagle.
  • [16:22:49] <atin_> which is what I'd actually like to do ...
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  • [16:23:34] <AV500> atin_: get another LCD that is better supported
  • [16:24:09] <atin_> that would require an outlay of cash :) - that's a no-no right now. I am only allowed to scavenge these days
  • [16:24:32] <atin_> or throw away the "junk" I have on hand first . . .
  • [16:24:42] <atin_> well, it isn't junk to me!
  • [16:25:42] <atin_> on the other hand, I guess I can just use my lcd monitor as a big honking photoframe with all the software I could dream of running on it via the beagle.
  • [16:25:57] <AV500> yep
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  • [16:26:07] <AV500> and I bet you can scavenge a cheap big LCD
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  • [16:26:41] <_boto> koen: back to my question related to firefox plugin
  • [16:27:14] <_boto> when building firefox, it installs a folder into /usr/include which contains the headers
  • [16:27:22] <atin_> the only downside is that I can't mail the thing to my parents - they only deal with things like photo frames . . . a digital photoframe needs to do all the downloads etc itself rather than have them have to download things to it.
  • [16:27:41] <atin_> thats why I want to "fix" the software on my photoframe
  • [16:27:51] <_boto> however the folder is called "firefox-3.0.1"
  • [16:28:06] <_boto> how can it get that folder name in my recipe?
  • [16:28:32] <_boto> btw: i am talking about the staging directory
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  • [16:33:06] <koen> _boto: you can't a priori know the version
  • [16:33:21] <koen> _boto: hence my remark about shipping your own headers
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  • [16:33:34] <koen> _boto: what you could to is to edit firefox.inc
  • [16:34:19] <koen> _boto: and have it do ln -sf ${STAGING_INCDIR}/{P} ${STAGING_INCDIR}/mozilla in the do_staging function
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  • [16:52:23] <AV500> atin_: I actually mail/give my parents a new SD card every few month or so :-)
  • [16:52:25] <ds2> \
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  • [16:53:26] <atin_> try doing it halfway around the world . . . those things would not survive a trip to where my parents are. I've just been forcing them to give flickr a chance :)
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  • [17:04:26] <tomba> anyone tried the EDID hack?
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  • [17:20:02] <eFfeM> koen, not sure what did it, i rebooted beagle and did an opkg update;opkg upgrade and now coherence works for me as well (at least to some extent for the full support of my tv I need the svn version)
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  • [17:23:20] <Beagle_Newbit> Hi Koen - Is there a way to use omapfbplay in the latest version of the demo without killing the Angstrom GUI? I removed X and Xorg, omapfbplay crashed on 720p, but I lost my GUI
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  • [17:28:39] <mru> omapfbplay doesn't interact too well with X
  • [17:29:02] <koen> that's what I've been all along yesterday
  • [17:29:06] <mru> actually it should be fine as long you do not use the omap xv driver
  • [17:29:25] <mru> omapfbplay only touches fb1
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  • [17:35:19] <tomba> using fb2 would "fix" the problem
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  • [17:38:48] <mru> what is the problem?
  • [17:40:01] <tomba> I guess it's just xv and omapfbplay using the same overlay. but I don't know.
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  • [17:41:41] <Beagle_Newbit> I get the mmap: invalid argument
  • [17:42:12] <tomba> xv frees the overlay memory. does omapfbplay allocate it?
  • [17:42:39] <Beagle_Newbit> how do I use fb2?
  • [17:44:13] <sakoman> tomba: do you have time for a couple of dss2 questions?
  • [17:44:18] <tomba> sure
  • [17:44:57] <sakoman> I noticed that the beagle board file does a omap2_set_sdram_vram while the other board files don't
  • [17:45:07] <sakoman> Is there a reason for this?
  • [17:45:46] <tomba> no. well yes, there was, but not really anymore. did I leave it there?
  • [17:45:56] <sakoman> yeah
  • [17:46:21] <Beagle_Newbit> tomba, how do I use fb2?
  • [17:46:37] <tomba> it's mostly meant for more defined products, that know exactly how much they need
  • [17:46:43] <tomba> Beagle_Newbit: I don't know about omapfbplay
  • [17:47:17] <Beagle_Newbit> okay, thanks.
  • [17:47:28] <sakoman> next question relates to how I can best set up the kernel command line in u-boot to allow people to easily switch between LCD or HDMI depending on what add-on board they have
  • [17:47:57] <tomba> sakoman: it's not there, are you still using the test branch =)
  • [17:48:07] <sakoman> is that the intent of omap-dss.def_disp?
  • [17:48:11] <Beagle_Newbit> I do University Relations for ARM, I'd really like to get my demo back working!
  • [17:48:39] <sakoman> hang on, I may have been looking at a version that has been open for days on my editor :-)
  • [17:49:07] <koen> sakoman: omap-dss.def_disp allows you to select the preferred output
  • [17:49:11] <Beagle_Newbit> students have been pretty amazed showing Enlightenment and 720p video
  • [17:49:44] <sakoman> tomba: yes, it was an old editor session :-)
  • [17:49:52] <sakoman> Sorry for the noise!
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  • [17:49:58] <tomba> sakoman: yes, def_disp sets what display is used as the display that all overlays will be directed to
  • [17:50:51] <sakoman> is there a mechanism to allow setting omapfb.video_mode individualy for lcd and dvi via the command line?
  • [17:50:59] <tomba> sakoman: of course, if you can detect the add-on board at runtime, there can be other options. well, there aren't but it's simple to add =)
  • [17:51:44] <tomba> sakoman: no. the video mode parameter is used for the default display. it's a bit broken, I agree,
  • [17:52:10] <sakoman> I have the issue that there will be multiple resolutions of LCD available and I want it to be relatively simple for folks to set default values for their particular LCD and preferred DVI resolution
  • [17:52:16] * koen should test the edid thing
  • [17:52:38] <sakoman> a u-boot env variable seems to be the simplest way to do this
  • [17:52:53] <sakoman> since there isn't any way to autodetect
  • [17:53:29] <Beagle_Newbit> is anyone able to play 720p with the latest demo?
  • [17:53:49] <tomba> sakoman: are there multiple resolutions supported by the LCD? this isn't usually the case
  • [17:54:22] <tomba> ah, different LCDs
  • [17:54:26] <sakoman> it is with Overo add on boards
  • [17:54:30] <sakoman> yes :-)
  • [17:56:20] <tomba> it's not very userfriendly to ask the user to enter the whole timing information to uboot =)
  • [17:56:58] <koen> Beagle_Newbit: works for me
  • [17:56:58] <sakoman> no, but remember that these are embedded systems
  • [17:57:13] <sakoman> so it is usually done at the factory in volume
  • [17:57:23] <tomba> sure
  • [17:57:43] <koen> mru: how much work would it be to add scaling support to omapfbplay? a lot of the frame gets cut of on my pico :)
  • [17:58:08] <Beagle_Newbit> How do you do it Koen? Is it possible without removing the GUI?
  • [17:58:11] <mru> it does upscaling
  • [17:58:13] <tomba> well, the kernel parameters are a bit deficient on this issue. you can't even give exact timings, only the mode name
  • [17:58:31] <mru> shouldn't take much to do downscaling
  • [17:59:00] <koen> Beagle_Newbit: don't start X and run omapfbplay
  • [17:59:09] <koen> as I already told you yesterday
  • [18:01:00] <Beagle_Newbit> I'm sorry, I'm an idiot! How do you not start X? Do I have to remove it all together? Before when I did a killall Xorg, it just had me log in again, and X started
  • [18:02:53] <koen> update-rc.d gpe-dm remove
  • [18:02:59] <koen> or edit /etc/init.d/gpe-dm
  • [18:03:26] <Beagle_Newbit> okay, this is from root, correct?
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  • [18:03:41] <Beagle_Newbit> after X has already started?
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  • [18:20:35] <tomba> I need a beagle with ES3.0 or ES3.1 to write proper EDID support. somebody send me one! ;)
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  • [18:29:48] <Beagle_Newbit> Koen, do I do update-rc.d gpe-dm remove at root when X has already booted up, correct (vs. stopping autoboot in a terminal on my PC)
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  • [18:30:23] <koen> update-rc.d updates /etc/rc.d as the name implies
  • [18:30:35] <koen> so it works on sysvinit scripts
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  • [18:42:01] <eFfeM> koen, i just created a recipe for python-coherence svn; as this fixes a few issues for me.I checked it in with DEFAULT_PREFERENCE = "-1". Could you go over it and test if it builds for you (and if so perhaps remove the DEFAULT_PREFERENCE). Reason for asking is that it uses https to go to svn but with a non verified certificate. I might have accepted the cert in the past, and would like to know if it works out of the box for everyone.
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  • [18:50:40] <florian> r
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  • [18:57:55] <koen> eFfeM: you could have a look at adding http://divmod.org/trac/wiki/DivmodAxiom and http://divmod.org/trac/wiki/DivmodEpsilon
  • [18:58:21] <koen> eFfeM: coherence needs that for db stuff
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  • [18:59:45] <eFfeM> koen will look at it in 30 minutes (still need coherence working properly, my tv does not like 0.6.0 and works with svn on opensuse, but on beagle I still seem to have an issue
  • [19:01:43] <koen> sakoman: ping
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  • [19:04:28] <sakoman> koen: pong
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  • [19:14:12] <Beagle_Newbit> koen, thank you, update-rc.d -f gpe-dm remove stopped the GUI from coming up, and I could run Bunny under omapfbplay. Now, after halting the video, how do I go back into the GUI?
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  • [19:14:46] <koen> Beagle_Newbit: /etc/init.d/gpe-dm start
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  • [19:24:27] <ds2> hmmm
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  • [19:40:20] <mib_anfofe> hi
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  • [19:45:52] <dirk2> atin_: Congrats: http://git.denx.de/?p=u-boot/u-boot-usb.git;a=commit;h=42343a3e7dcb3eb8e004b7d3d3b9ea8ad8573aca :)
  • [19:46:21] <dirk2> atin_: Nice to see how easy it can be. No please split the patch etc. :)
  • [19:47:20] <dirk2> atin_: Now the next step would be to clean up omap3-dev-usb changes (MUSB patch) to be ready when remaining OMAP3 go into mainline
  • [19:47:50] <dirk2> atin_: and maybe fix the remaining issues in omap3-dev-usb ;)
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  • [20:02:49] <likewise> hey all
  • [20:02:53] <likewise> koen: hoi koen
  • [20:03:19] <koen> likewise: hey
  • [20:03:38] <koen> likewise: I think I still need to reply to your mail :/
  • [20:04:11] <likewise> koen: hmm, you can /msg me. been too hectic weeks for me (too)
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  • [20:14:08] <javaJake> I've cross-compiled Gentoo to my Beagle, and it runs, but it won't accept input properly outside of bash
  • [20:14:16] <javaJake> This includes man, less, passwd, and login prompts
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  • [20:15:37] <mru> what kind of console? usb keyboard, serial, ...?
  • [20:15:47] <javaJake> Serial, sorry, should've mentioned that
  • [20:15:59] <mru> can you ssh to it?
  • [20:16:12] <javaJake> Networking isn't up yet :)
  • [20:17:14] <mru> btw did you encounter many issues cross-compiling gentoo?
  • [20:17:26] <mru> libtool keeps giving me grief
  • [20:18:24] <javaJake> libtool... lemme check to see where that went
  • [20:18:41] <mru> I didn't install that obviously
  • [20:18:49] <mru> but some packages use it while building
  • [20:18:57] <mru> and it likes to stick -L/usr/lib in the linker command line
  • [20:18:58] <javaJake> OH, OK
  • [20:18:59] <javaJake> Oh*
  • [20:19:03] <mru> obviously a bad idea
  • [20:19:09] <javaJake> Yea, no, libtool hasn't been pulled in
  • [20:19:41] <mru> I've had to patch a few packages to make things build cleanly
  • [20:20:24] <javaJake> Thanks for the heads up. Haven't had that problem yet
  • [20:20:32] <javaJake> Linking should detect bad libraries and skip them, actually
  • [20:20:42] <mru> linking detects bad libs and aborts
  • [20:20:42] <javaJake> What you're likely seeing is that it cna't find a good library.
  • [20:20:59] <mru> or never searches the right places
  • [20:21:01] <javaJake> And we get aronud that by emerging to SYSROOT first before ROOT (if you've split them up)
  • [20:21:02] <mru> not sure which
  • [20:21:11] <javaJake> s/aronud/around/
  • [20:21:20] <mru> yeah, sysroot and root are different
  • [20:21:26] <javaJake> OK, yea....
  • [20:21:30] <javaJake> mru: using cross-emerge?
  • [20:21:37] <mru> of course
  • [20:21:39] <javaJake> OK
  • [20:21:45] <mru> and some homecooked scripts
  • [20:22:01] <javaJake> Here's how we do it. We've got a script that writes all required environment variables, so cross-emerge is rendered useless.
  • [20:22:21] <javaJake> We have a script that executes above script, but then changes ROOT to point to SYSROOT
  • [20:22:27] <javaJake> Then it should emerge successfully.
  • [20:22:48] <mru> vim was a bit nasty too
  • [20:22:50] <javaJake> You don't have to change any of your configuration except ROOT.
  • [20:22:54] <javaJake> vim, yes...
  • [20:23:08] <javaJake> Not sure if I've done that yet
  • [20:23:12] <javaJake> mru: have you booted yours yet? :P
  • [20:23:25] <mru> running since June
  • [20:23:32] <javaJake> Nice. Serial console? ;D
  • [20:23:44] <mru> yes, and network
  • [20:23:51] <mru> never bothered with usb input
  • [20:24:23] <javaJake> OK, what did you configure to get serial input/output? I've configured inittab to point to ttyS2 (with vt102) and created ttyS0-2 in /dev
  • [20:24:52] <mru> do you get anything on the serial port?
  • [20:24:57] <javaJake> Yes
  • [20:25:05] <mru> good, then the kernel drivers are in place
  • [20:25:17] <javaJake> I can view the login, but it always tells me I've entered the wrong password
  • [20:25:24] <mru> maybe you did
  • [20:25:27] <mru> ;-)
  • [20:25:29] <javaJake> I used init=/bin/bash to try to get by that
  • [20:25:41] <javaJake> But then man, less, nano, and passwd all act funny (as noted)
  • [20:25:51] <mru> hmm, maybe there's problem with tty settings
  • [20:26:08] <javaJake> Where would those be?
  • [20:26:38] * javaJake will be back in 30 minutes
  • [20:26:41] <mru> what kernel are you using?
  • [20:26:48] <javaJake> 2.6.28-omap1
  • [20:27:12] <mru> and what configuration?
  • [20:27:22] <javaJake> default, with added USB networking
  • [20:27:25] <javaJake> default beagle, I mean
  • [20:27:45] <javaJake> Or, default omap3 beagle, if there's more than one default for beagle :P
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  • [20:27:55] <mru> there's only one beagle
  • [20:28:49] <javaJake> OK
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  • [20:37:26] <atin_> sakoman: ping?
  • [20:40:52] <sakoman> atin_: pong
  • [20:41:10] <atin_> sakoman: following the u-boot mailing list? :)
  • [20:41:35] <atin_> sakoman: dirk is going to get /kick'ed or something! :)
  • [20:42:37] <sakoman> no I haven't been. I will look
  • [20:45:52] <sakoman> atin_: That gave me a really good laugh! :-)
  • [20:46:13] <sakoman> Heh, I needed that :-)
  • [20:46:29] <atin_> sakoman: I just hope their response doesn't actually become "no, we don't like OMAP3" like we were joking!
  • [20:46:44] <garren> night all
  • [20:46:48] <sakoman> I doubt it
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  • [20:47:32] <sakoman> I'm sure it felt good for dirk2 to respond that way
  • [20:47:42] <atin_> sakoman: it is funny tho, let's see what happens :). Dirk's basically telling them to "RTFC"!
  • [20:47:45] <sakoman> But it may serve to anoy them a bit
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  • [20:56:48] <sakoman> atin_: do you want me to apply the patch yeu emailed, or should I wait for trickle down from upstream?
  • [20:57:51] <atin_> sakoman: I think you can apply it - it got put into u-boot-usb, I don't know when that makes it to mainline
  • [20:58:28] <atin_> sakoman: it'll make it down eventually ... but it does hang us, so we can apply it anyway and I guess we'll get a conflict that is easy to get around.
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  • [21:07:09] <sakoman> atin_: I wasn't able to apply the patch from the upstream usb branch -- it won't apply due to upstream changes compared to our omap3-dev-usb branch
  • [21:07:29] <sakoman> you would need to send me a version based on our branch
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  • [21:07:45] <atin_> hmm, ok.
  • [21:09:13] <sakoman> atin_: this is the one I grabbed: http://git.denx.de/?p=u-boot/u-boot-usb.git;a=commitdiff;h=42343a3e7dcb3eb8e004b7d3d3b9ea8ad8573aca
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  • [21:09:45] <sakoman> atin_: hmm . . . wait a sec!
  • [21:09:58] <atin_> sakoman: that's the right one.
  • [21:10:16] <sakoman> I didn't read the whole error message: No changes -- Patch already applied.
  • [21:10:31] <sakoman> So it seems to already be in omap3-dev-usb?!!
  • [21:10:42] <atin_> sakoman: yes, I think Dirk applied it
  • [21:10:56] <sakoman> doh!
  • [21:10:59] <atin_> sakoman: tho he did it right after I submitted it, rather than after accepting :)
  • [21:11:08] <atin_> sakoman: so I figured you'd just be able to "sync" up
  • [21:11:50] <atin_> sakoman: sorry, I should have said that - tho only after you said "already applied" did I remember :)
  • [21:12:07] <sakoman> I spaced out and forgot it was one of the seven add on patches
  • [21:12:24] <sakoman> OK, back to other stuff :-)
  • [21:12:33] <atin_> ddompe: ping?
  • [21:12:48] <ddompe> atin_: pong
  • [21:12:59] <atin_> ddompe: any luck duplicating my hangs?
  • [21:13:20] <ddompe> atin_: no, I haven't got time for testing it yet
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  • [21:13:36] <atin_> ddompe: dang - I hope it isn't just my board or something..
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  • [21:14:17] <atin_> the thing did manage to fall off the table and into the kids mouth before I got to him...
  • [21:14:30] <ddompe> atin_: I have a customer starting production and I'm generating NAND images, so I'm under some pressure ;(
  • [21:14:35] <atin_> how's that for stress testing ...
  • [21:14:47] <atin_> ddompe: ok, good luck :)
  • [21:14:57] <ddompe> atin_: I see
  • [21:15:02] <ddompe> I will test it ASAP
  • [21:15:12] <atin_> I don't start working of money generating stuff until monday - I'll be on the beagle a little less then
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  • [21:15:54] <atin_> I don't think I can convince them to run their software on the beagle :)
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  • [21:30:11] <atin_> wtf ... USB200M ethernet dongle stopped working in Angstrom?!
  • [21:31:41] <atin_> koen: ping?
  • [21:32:19] <atin_> anyone ... http://pastebin.com/m37775762
  • [21:32:41] <atin_> what does that mean?
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  • [21:34:06] <atin_> shoot ... dmesg has: musb_hdrc musb_hdrc: musb_init_controller failed with status -19
  • [21:34:17] <atin_> guess I can figure that out ...
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  • [21:36:01] <SpaceAceX> can someone please point me to url that helps me watch divx xvid movies for the beagleboard
  • [21:36:11] <atin_> no such device? cool - my omap3530 suddenly regurgitated the MUSB controller ... wtf.
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  • [21:56:18] <mru> do you have the dma patch?
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  • [21:58:23] <koen> jkridner|work, sakoman: ian is looking into the 32bpp problems with text
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  • [21:58:49] <eFfeM> koen, working on epsilon but ran into a problem
  • [21:59:04] <eFfeM> download url is http://divmod.org/trac/attachment/wiki/SoftwareReleases/Epsilon-0.5.11.tar.gz?format=raw
  • [21:59:27] <eFfeM> how do I download/unzip; without the format=raw it downloads html
  • [22:00:23] <koen> eFfeM: epsilon is already in :)
  • [22:00:43] <koen> eFfeM: http://cgit.openembedded.net/cgit.cgi?url=openembedded/commit/&id=717dc6f3ee31acf7a8fa2af4c35f53280decdbec
  • [22:00:58] <koen> eFfeM: check the divmod.inc, it handles the ?raw stuff
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  • [22:01:25] <eFfeM> ah, you made this ?
  • [22:01:31] <koen> eFfeM: I hit a snag with axiom, it needs an epsilon-native as well
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  • [22:01:48] <eFfeM> ah, i got sidetracked so only just started on it
  • [22:05:20] <koen> I'll check in nevow in a few mins (for the webgui) and then call it a day
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  • [22:10:33] <koen> eFfeM: ok, I'm done :)
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  • [22:10:48] <eFfeM> koen, divmod.inc is not in the archive
  • [22:10:55] <Batko_Marto> hey guys I'm trying to get the rt73.bin firmware included in an image with oe. How can I do that?
  • [22:11:36] <koen> eFfeM: ok, now I'm done :)
  • [22:11:52] <eFfeM> :-)
  • [22:13:02] <eFfeM> koen, learned a few things from the inc file; not sure if i could have made that and definitely learned a few things
  • [22:14:00] <sakoman> koen: connman recipe is failing on the fetch
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  • [22:15:54] <sakoman> koen: fetch fails using a browser too
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  • [22:17:47] <eFfeM> koen, can i remove the DEFAULT_PREFERENCE = -1 from the svn coherence ?
  • [22:19:35] <koen> eFfeM: sure
  • [22:19:44] <koen> eFfeM: how do I access the webui?
  • [22:20:29] <eFfeM> koen port 30020 ?
  • [22:20:39] <eFfeM> the port # is in the .coherence file
  • [22:20:50] <eFfeM> for me it is not running yet on tv
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  • [22:22:33] <koen> eFfeM: ah
  • [22:22:42] <koen> eFfeM: I installed nevow and expected something fancier
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  • [22:23:17] <eFfeM> koen, haven't checked the webui yet
  • [22:23:27] <eFfeM> the nice thing of coherence is the multiple backends
  • [22:25:42] <koen> yes
  • [22:25:47] * koen likes the lolcat backend
  • [22:26:55] <eFfeM> haven't checked it out yet
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  • [22:27:37] <eFfeM> for some reason my beagle version behaves differently from my desktop version
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  • [22:30:40] <koen> eFfeM: installing python-twisted-pair also helped silence a few errors
  • [22:33:05] <eFfeM> shoudl we add that as dependency ?
  • [22:33:33] <koen> yes
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  • [22:35:16] <koen> sakoman: connman should be fixed now
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  • [22:36:34] <eFfeM> calling it a day, cya
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  • [22:39:14] <sakoman> koen: thanks much!
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  • [22:39:46] <sakoman> koen: will be trying the sgx stuff on overo shortly
  • [22:41:34] * koen is happy the modules are opensource nowadays
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  • [22:57:45] <koen> sakoman: bluetooth is part of wi2wi, which is missing from my overo, right?
  • [22:58:28] <prpplague> koen: yea, the wi2wi chipset has the bluetooth as part of it
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  • [22:59:42] <prpplague> koen: iirc last i discussed it with sakoman they were using the bluetooth via a uart to the wi2wi chip, i don't know if that is still the case
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  • [23:00:35] * prpplague looks
  • [23:00:50] <koen> one of them tiny bluetooth dongles
  • [23:00:52] <prpplague> koen: that a usb bt or usb ir?
  • [23:01:14] <koen> bt
  • [23:01:23] <prpplague> koen: ahh
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  • [23:08:59] <sakoman> koen: correct - the 3530 protos didn't have wi2wi chips loaded
  • [23:09:29] <sakoman> and the wi2wi parts do indeed include both wifi and bt
  • [23:09:42] <sakoman> wifi via sdio and bt via serial port
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  • [23:12:08] <ds2> isn't bt pretty slow then?
  • [23:12:24] <ds2> AFAIK, the clock combo on the OMAP ports don't allow the faster baud rates
  • [23:13:00] <sakoman> ds2: I've tested it at 921K
  • [23:13:18] <raster> i thought bt1 was 768kbit - right?
  • [23:13:21] <ds2> sakoman: what do you have to do to get the UARTs to 921K?
  • [23:14:27] <sakoman> ds2: put HCIATTACH_SPEED=921600 in /etc/default/bluetooth
  • [23:15:56] <sakoman> raster: that may be the physical link speed. I'm referring to the serial rate for the communications between OMAP and the wi2wi module
  • [23:16:31] <ds2> sakoman: Hmm
  • [23:17:52] <ds2> if it works, I guess the clock base I thought it was is wrong
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  • [23:19:30] <sakoman> ds2: is it something that could have changed in recent kernels?
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  • [23:19:42] <sakoman> I tested on 2.6.29-rc3
  • [23:20:20] <Carlm> Hi, if i want some extra busybox commands like ftpput can i just grab the busybox source and make that or are there any specific beagle patch's?
  • [23:20:29] <Carlm> im using angstrom
  • [23:22:26] <ds2> sakoman: don't think so... I thought the clock was such that anything about 2x 115200 didn't meet the 10% spec... I could be wrong
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  • [23:22:40] <ds2> cuz on the PXA, the BTUART is setup differently to allow forthe high rate
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  • [23:27:21] <sakoman> ds2: according to TRM @ 921,600 error is 0.16%
  • [23:27:54] <sakoman> assuming the driver uses their recommended setup
  • [23:27:57] <ds2> I must be wrong about the base clock
  • [23:28:04] <sakoman> page 2507
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  • [23:32:42] <ds2> finally... stale mounts on the nslu :/
  • [23:32:48] <ds2> the 98a version?
  • [23:34:23] <ds2> guess now... 2507 talks about VENC_S_CARR
  • [23:35:19] <ds2> indeed, I must be confusing this with another chip
  • [23:37:11] <sakoman> ds2: the b version
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  • [23:38:55] <ds2> found the table in the 98a
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  • [23:51:00] <javaJake> mru: do you have unicode on?
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  • [23:51:32] <mru> always
  • [23:51:56] <javaJake> OK
  • [23:52:05] <javaJake> Still debugging the console input issues
  • [23:52:32] <javaJake> mru: you know where the "terminal settings" you mentioned might be?
  • [23:53:35] <mru> make sure you mount a devpts filesystem on /dev/pts
  • [23:53:50] <mru> and make sure /dev/console exists
  • [23:53:58] <javaJake> OK
  • [23:54:00] <javaJake> devpts, eh?
  • [23:54:33] <mru> mount -t devpts none /dev/pts
  • [23:54:45] <mru> some boot script should be doing that
  • [23:55:13] <javaJake> Oh, OK
  • [23:55:26] <mru> it normally happens automatically
  • [23:55:42] <javaJake> devfs, yea
  • [23:55:53] <mru> baselayout 2?
  • [23:55:58] <javaJake> Yea
  • [23:56:01] <mru> ah
  • [23:56:02] <javaJake> Loaded on sysinit
  • [23:56:23] <mru> it doesn't seem to install the /dev/ files
  • [23:56:31] <javaJake> Hmmm
  • [23:56:33] <mru> you'll have to copy a basic set from somewhere
  • [23:56:46] <mru> like a baselayout 1 install
  • [23:57:18] <mru> I *just* finished beating a baselayout-2 on beagle into shape
  • [23:57:22] <javaJake> Heheh
  • [23:57:33] <javaJake> Yea, we installed baselayout-2 without baselayout-1
  • [23:58:04] <javaJake> Now, we've been creating /dev stuff as required, but is there a list of /dev devices that we can look to, or is it really just try-n-see?
  • [23:58:17] <javaJake> (This could be part of the problem :P )
  • [23:58:40] <mru> it's better to have to many devices than too few
  • [23:58:57] <mru> udev will be mounted over them anyway so you won't see them
  • [23:58:59] <javaJake> I s'pose. It aggravates me to have a directory that was hacked together :P
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  • [23:59:24] <javaJake> mru: can you ls -R /dev for me? Perhaps that'll be a good starting point.
  • [23:59:35] <mru> grab a baselayout-1 tarball
  • [23:59:42] <javaJake> Oh, is it the same thing?
  • [23:59:46] <mru> sure
  • [23:59:52] <javaJake> "sure"? :P
  • [23:59:58] <mru> the /dev files are ok