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  • [03:55:29] <jkridner> I have tried again to submit beagle support to u-boot.
  • [03:56:02] <jkridner> hopefully this will go and clear the way for pandora, evm, zoom1, overo, etc.
  • [04:12:09] <denix> jkridner: nice! am I seeing a duplicate?
  • [04:12:33] <jkridner> no, I just failed to include the config header file in the first patch.
  • [04:12:48] <jkridner> there should be a v2 on the second one.
  • [04:13:00] <jkridner> Also, I wasn't sure if it needed to be PATCH-OMAP3 or PATCH-ARM
  • [04:13:09] <jkridner> I believe PATCH-OMAP3 was for j24's omap3 branch.
  • [04:13:27] <jkridner> omap3 support is now on j24's master branch, so I switched my v2 patch to say PATCH-ARM.
  • [04:13:46] <jkridner> we had a chat with j24 today and he wants each board in a separate patch.
  • [04:14:09] <jkridner> I'm hopeful this will get beagle into j24's master and that a pull request will go from him to wdenk.
  • [04:14:24] <denix> would be nice...
  • [04:14:27] <jkridner> It is enough to boot Beagle. I did test that.
  • [04:14:42] <jkridner> it applies against http://git.denx.de/?p=u-boot/u-boot-arm.git;a=summary
  • [04:15:05] <jkridner> there are some newer fix-ups I'd like to see.
  • [04:15:20] <jkridner> but I'm hopeful those will all apply nicely on top of this.
  • [04:15:41] <jkridner> each of the board addition patches will need to be reworked, but that should be trivial if this is accepted.
  • [04:16:29] <jkridner> each one would roughly be a change to Makefile (s), MAINTAINERS, includes/config/board.h, etc.
  • [04:16:48] <jkridner> I'm still getting the hang of git, but I am feeling better with it.
  • [04:16:56] <jkridner> really a great tool.
  • [04:18:19] <denix> yeah, long way since cvs... :)
  • [04:19:41] <jkridner> ever run checkpatch.pl ?
  • [04:19:49] <jkridner> seems to take *forever*
  • [04:19:53] <denix> the one from kernel?
  • [04:19:57] <jkridner> yeah.
  • [04:20:27] <denix> there're lots of checks :)
  • [04:24:38] * jkridner wonders where the 256MB and L1NEON patches are. Are they in the initial submissions?
  • [04:26:32] * jkridner found the 256MB fix, so it must have been in the initial submission upstream.
  • [04:26:59] <jkridner> would have been nice if it was isolated so that people knew it was there.
  • [04:27:29] <jkridner> guess people could say the same about my EHCI pinmux configuration, which I threw into this patch today.
  • [04:27:32] <mru> the 256MB and l1neon patches got bundled in with something else
  • [04:27:47] <jkridner> just seemed silly to introduce a new file and include old code in it.
  • [04:28:09] <jkridner> mru: k. I found the 256MB part (make_cs1_contiguous).
  • [04:28:19] <jkridner> I don't know where the l1neon patch went in.
  • [04:28:43] <jkridner> that is, I don't know where the code is that turns on l1neon.
  • [04:29:05] <jkridner> ah.
  • [04:29:09] <jkridner> found it in board.c
  • [04:29:12] <mru> commit b2cbe81193dd3f2ac1fa8cccd3529aa2d40a96a6
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  • [04:30:16] <jkridner> that was rolled-up by dirk2 and sakoman into other patches, so that patch doesn't show up on u-boot or u-boot-arm trees.
  • [04:30:27] <jkridner> anyway, I can see the patch was applied.
  • [04:30:37] <jkridner> just wanted to make sure I didn't leave it out of what I sent today.
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  • [04:31:40] <jkridner> this is the board.c that I *believe* will finally make it upstream: http://git.denx.de/?p=u-boot/u-boot-arm.git;a=commit;h=91eee546737ae21d930af479530997174c342b13
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  • [06:53:15] <furan> what's the word on lvds in the latest beagleboard?
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  • [07:08:12] <ds2> wheeeee
  • [07:08:17] * ds2 *heart* pinvises
  • [07:08:38] <ds2> nozzle tip machined!!
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  • [07:25:03] <jkridner> furan: no lvds, but Rev C will have access to the raw LCD signals.
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  • [07:49:33] <furan> any idea on the rev c timeframe?
  • [08:04:54] <dirk2> furan: rev c: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard#Revision_C2
  • [08:05:18] <dirk2> jkridner: Many thanks for discussion yesterday and your help with U-Boot patch!
  • [08:06:42] <dirk2> jkridner: I did the other boards, too. Have a look to your gmail inbox. Unfortunately, I have some issues with git send-email at the moment.
  • [08:06:50] <jkridner> dirk2: thanks. does this patch look like it will give us what we need? will it be easy enough for everyone to make a new board patch? if this is accepted, I'd have no problems making patches for each board.
  • [08:06:56] <jkridner> k
  • [08:07:33] <dirk2> jkridner: The attachment should have all boards, beagle, too. Saw your u-boot mail too late ;)
  • [08:08:01] <jkridner> e-mail I got from you was just the beagleboard patch, not the other boards.
  • [08:08:18] <jkridner> oh, maybe you put them all into 1 e-mail?
  • [08:08:27] <dirk2> jkridner: 6 attachments in one mail
  • [08:08:49] <jkridner> ah. Mail.app shows them all in-line.
  • [08:09:12] <dirk2> my git send-email is broken at the moment :(
  • [08:10:11] <jkridner> ah, you sent them to my gmail account instead of my beagleboard account.
  • [08:10:21] <dirk2> jkridner: if j24 rejects the attachments because of "please send with git send-email", would be nice if you could help
  • [08:10:31] <jkridner> I hardly use the gmail account now. I like the @beagleboard.org brand. :)
  • [08:10:32] <dirk2> jkridner: gmail, yes
  • [08:11:03] <dirk2> shall i resend?
  • [08:11:11] <jkridner> I am currently marking all my activities as @beagleboard.org, though I have considered using @ti.com.
  • [08:11:12] <furan> dirk2: thanks
  • [08:11:12] <jkridner> no.
  • [08:11:34] * jkridner looks at gmail account.
  • [08:12:01] <dirk2> jkridner: will try to remember to use @beagleboard.org
  • [08:12:04] <dirk2> ;)
  • [08:12:42] <dirk2> jkridner: got them?
  • [08:13:36] <jkridner> got them. if j24 requests git-send-email, I will provide that way (simply breaking up your attachments into a git-send-email patch at a time).
  • [08:13:51] <jkridner> did you build after each patch?
  • [08:14:12] <jkridner> my first attempt didn't build. :( that is why there was a v2.
  • [08:14:22] <dirk2> jkridner: build: No, built only full series for each board
  • [08:14:35] <jkridner> also, I think that the [] should say PATCH-ARM, not PATCH-OMAP3, but I'm not sure.
  • [08:14:44] <jkridner> k.
  • [08:15:37] <dirk2> jkridner: now you are nitpicking ;))
  • [08:15:48] <jkridner> :)
  • [08:16:28] <dirk2> jkridner: git send-email: It's easier: put my 6 attachment into a temp directory
  • [08:17:18] <dirk2> jkridner: then use --chain-reply-to option for git send-email and pass this temp directory to git send email
  • [08:17:24] <jkridner> yes, though even on gmail.com, they don't show as attachments. I will just save entire e-mail to 1 file and manually split to 6 files if necessary.
  • [08:17:47] <dirk2> jkridner: k. but let us wait for j24
  • [08:18:37] <jkridner> --chain-reply-to is the default.
  • [08:19:04] <dirk2> jkridner: regarding what is missing in these patches, i.e. what we did since v6 series was sent to u-boot:
  • [08:19:24] <dirk2> jkridner: I have the missing stuff in some add on patches ready
  • [08:19:26] <jkridner> board-detection.
  • [08:19:40] <dirk2> jkridner: yes, for example
  • [08:19:56] <jkridner> board-detection: should just "cherry-pick".
  • [08:20:22] <jkridner> omap3-detection; should just "cherry-pick"
  • [08:20:57] <jkridner> mmc code clean-up: I think you had some other discussion with j24 on that?
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  • [08:21:22] <dirk2> jkridner: I'd like to wait until j24 sent the git pull request to wolfgang and then until OMAP3 core is in mainline. Then I will send the additional features.
  • [08:21:34] <jkridner> several overo patches from Steve.
  • [08:22:24] <dirk2> jkridner: yes, I have everything we actually have in omap3-dev in ready patches for u-boot. Just want to wait until OMAP3 core hits mainline to avoid additional confusion.
  • [08:22:26] <jkridner> exactly. I don't want to waste my time with any of the other patches until I can pull from wdenk mainline and boot beagle.
  • [08:22:42] <jkridner> I will be quite frustrated if Monday we don't have Beagle in mainline u-boot.
  • [08:23:26] <dirk2> oh, all: be aware that we have a frustrated jkridner on monday
  • [08:23:30] <dirk2> ;)
  • [08:23:35] <jkridner> :)
  • [08:23:48] <jkridner> I'm frequently frustrated, so that shouldn't be news.
  • [08:24:20] * jkridner would like to go back to messing with 3D and DSP on Overo/Beagle rather than monkeying with u-boot and BeagleBoard validation code.
  • [08:24:40] <dirk2> jkridner: No, you are not frustrated. I know some u-boot and arm-linux maintainers who are frustrated...
  • [08:24:51] <jkridner> I haven't even had the chance to boot my RealtimeDSP MINI_Board. :(
  • [08:27:12] <dirk2> let us wait now for j24/wdenk. bbl
  • [08:27:51] <jkridner> goodnight all
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  • [08:30:27] <koen> good morning all
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  • [09:49:04] <garren> morning all
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  • [10:20:14] <koen> eFfeM: cwiid works :)
  • [10:20:30] <mru> morning
  • [10:20:34] <koen> hey mru
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  • [11:13:14] <eFfeM> koen, nice
  • [11:13:50] <eFfeM> koen, what window mgr/ui package are you using?
  • [11:14:00] <eFfeM> (saw the pic on your blog)
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  • [11:26:26] <keesj> eFfeM: e17 I think
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  • [11:31:21] <eFfeM> koen, tnx will give it a try
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  • [11:36:08] <koen> eFfeM: e-wm
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  • [11:54:04] <Rudd-O> uh
  • [11:54:08] <Rudd-O> where can I chat about GNOME's beagle?
  • [11:54:12] <Rudd-O> /join #gnome
  • [11:54:15] <Rudd-O> damnit
  • [11:54:18] <Rudd-O> damn you empathy
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  • [14:02:41] <ant_> koen: serious problems booting narcissus images on c7x0 :-(
  • [14:03:10] <ant_> well..botting is ok, configuring pkgs is failing (stalls)
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  • [14:32:25] <jkridner> good morning all
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  • [14:34:14] <jkridner> anybody follow the u-boot mailing list?
  • [14:34:21] <jkridner> were my patches in base64?
  • [14:34:35] <jkridner> I sent them using git-send-email.
  • [14:35:25] <jkridner> I see the e-mail as utf-8
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  • [14:36:51] <jkridner> koen: do you need another ack for your 100kHz patch?
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  • [15:17:33] <jkridner> I reworked the patch to use tabs before MUX_VAL and remove trailing newlines in config.mk.
  • [15:17:58] <jkridner> now I just have to figure out why wdenk gets base64 encoded messages from me.
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  • [15:30:15] <julian_> i'm interested in using the beagle-board for some mobile computer vision applications but am concerned about powering the board when away from a mains. are there any reccommended solutions to this problem by users here?
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  • [15:39:21] <jkridner> what is "a mains"? supply from a wall outlet? Are you looking for battery recommendations?
  • [15:41:40] <julian_> yes
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  • [15:49:46] <adj> "How many vorlons does it take to change a light bulb? - Yes."
  • [15:51:02] <julian_> adj: 2. one person to ask a completely unrelated question and another to tell a similarly unrelated joke ;)
  • [15:51:28] <julian_> jkridner: i'm looking for battery reccomendations and perhaps even a howto for interfacing the given battery to the bb.
  • [15:53:21] <adj> sorry, just couldn't help myself :)
  • [15:54:25] <julian_> adj: no probs. my question was badly constructed (highly distracted at a hack-lab in Berlin).
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  • [15:55:09] <Xenion> Guten Abend / Good evening :-)
  • [15:55:33] <adj> but about the problem itself: i don't think there exists a general recommendation about the way how to power beagle
  • [15:55:58] <adj> main thing to keep in mind that you'll supply the board with stable 5 volt power supply
  • [15:56:19] <Xenion> adj, it has to be really stable .. any fluct. and it hangs
  • [15:56:23] <Xenion> :-)
  • [15:56:39] <Xenion> the listed power supply in the wiki ( elinux ) work well ( tested it )
  • [15:57:23] <adj> but when operating with batteries normal wall supplys won't help much :)
  • [15:57:51] <Xenion> adj, right, but a vr does ( voltage regulator )
  • [15:57:52] <Xenion> :-)
  • [15:58:03] <adj> julian_: have you considered what kind of batteries you would be using?
  • [15:58:06] <Xenion> <- used one, it is quite simple
  • [16:00:49] <Xenion> one thing is funny .. using the BB on the pc of a friend .. it always hangs after some time ... after powering it using the wall supply it was stable
  • [16:00:55] <adj> 7805 voltage regulator + some capacitors should be enough if efficiency isn't main concern and if battery voltage is high enough
  • [16:01:06] <Xenion> looks like usb has some fluctuations too
  • [16:01:23] <Xenion> adj, that's what i choosed, yes
  • [16:02:40] <adj> iirc usb specifications allow usb vbus to drop somewhere around 4.75 volts
  • [16:03:09] <adj> but even that should be enough for beagle's ldo regulator
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  • [16:06:54] <Xenion> adj, i just noticed on a b7 certain hangs, which vary among pc and usb hubs
  • [16:07:04] <Xenion> and which don't show up using wall plug
  • [16:07:27] <Xenion> how much can the vr ( voltage regulator ) of the bb scale down ?
  • [16:09:01] <koen> jkridner: your tactic of annoying wolfgang with duplicate base64 patches does seem to work
  • [16:09:15] <koen> jkridner: omap3 stuff isn't getting ignored any more :)
  • [16:09:32] <jkridner> :)
  • [16:09:37] <jkridner> currently in IRC chat with him.
  • [16:09:46] <jkridner> not sure how it got to base64.
  • [16:09:54] <koen> ant_: the same issue exist with OE built images, no idea why it happens sometimes
  • [16:10:05] <ant_> re
  • [16:10:07] <ant_> ok
  • [16:10:51] <ant_> btw kernel was deployed
  • [16:11:10] <adj> Xenion: B7 schematics show that the regulator is TPS73701 which is an adjustable output regulator, fixed to 4.2 volts at beagle
  • [16:11:31] <Xenion> adj i see
  • [16:11:35] <adj> and very low dropout, only 130 mV
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  • [16:12:04] <Xenion> curios, this doesn't explain these usb hangups :/
  • [16:12:15] <adj> hmm, data sheet says typically 130 mV while maximum being 500 mV
  • [16:12:38] <Xenion> adj, yeah sounds like it should be enough to handle usb 2.0 fluctuations
  • [16:12:57] <Ikarus> btw, building a DC-DC to feed from battery is pretty simple and gives you 90+% efficiency
  • [16:14:53] <jkridner> julian_: I use http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail?name=N321-ND
  • [16:15:40] <Xenion> jkridner, cool
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  • [16:15:49] <Xenion> jkridner, how long dooes it last ?
  • [16:15:52] <Xenion> does
  • [16:16:55] <julian_> jkridner: thanks
  • [16:16:56] * julian_ clicks
  • [16:17:02] <jkridner> not sure. several hours.
  • [16:17:34] <jkridner> I've never recharged the batteries as I only ever used it for demos at LinuxWorld and then they got shoved in a box.
  • [16:17:51] <Xenion> i see
  • [16:18:15] <julian_> i'm looking for real longevity as the application i will be running is very CPU and GPU intensive.
  • [16:18:32] * koen wonders about powering beagle + pico of a battery
  • [16:18:35] <Xenion> julian_, what is it gonna be ?
  • [16:18:47] <julian_> (building it into: http://selectparks.net/~julian/theartvertiser/images/monocle-white.png for http://theartvertiser.com/
  • [16:18:49] <Ikarus> koen: should be doable, the pico seems to be low power enough
  • [16:19:00] <Ikarus> koen: grab lithium-ion camcorder batteries though :)
  • [16:19:14] <julian_> Xenion: i've written the code, we're currently spec'ing the hardware.
  • [16:19:32] <Xenion> julian_, i see
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  • [16:37:56] <jkridner> :( generating patches is a pain.
  • [16:38:17] <jkridner> last one doesn't git-am cleanly as there are several useless comments that have some spaces before tabs.
  • [16:38:37] <jkridner> several comments were only about hardware on the SDP.
  • [16:38:56] * jkridner wonders if some power could be saved by configuring the pins into lower power states.
  • [16:42:59] <jkridner> maybe someone can go ahead and nak my last e-mail so that I can send a version that doesn't have the git-am issues?
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  • [16:45:33] <jkridner> hi dirk2
  • [16:45:49] <jkridner> seems I've still screwed up. do you see the base64 problem?
  • [16:46:17] <jkridner> also, wdenk_ asked me to lead with a tab, rather than a space for all of the MUX_VAL.
  • [16:46:45] <jkridner> I also corrected the blank lines at the end of files.
  • [16:47:32] * dirk2 will check in some minutes
  • [16:48:20] <jkridner> latest version of the patch I have is at http://www.beagleboard.org/gitweb/?p=u-boot-arm.git;a=commit;h=1038bef85cb766e82b9597743ae4ad369d5f77bd
  • [16:48:29] <jkridner> I haven't submitted this version yet.
  • [16:48:44] <jkridner> fix removes some comments that were useless anyway and had some spaces before tabs.
  • [16:50:28] <jkridner> copy of patch I'd like to submit is at http://www.beagleboard.org/~arago/0001-OMAP3-Add-Beagle-Board-and-common-power-code.patch. it is missing a reply-to field, because I'm waiting for someone to reject my last attempt.
  • [16:54:02] <dirk2> jkridner: I really don't know what issues wolfgang has. I saved your v2 patch as http://pastebin.com/d1b38dc23 Looks fine.
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  • [16:54:46] <dirk2> jkridner: The tab for MUX_VAL doesn't work, you will exceed 80 char limit
  • [16:55:09] <jkridner> dirk2: I attempted to reformat the lines to avoid the 80 char limit.
  • [16:55:40] <dirk2> jkridner: you do only beagle patch, no?
  • [16:55:55] <jkridner> correct.
  • [16:56:09] <dirk2> jkridner: :( We should do all patches
  • [16:56:45] <dirk2> jkridner: And we shouldn't accept any nitpicking only because they are in bad mood
  • [16:56:56] <dirk2> jkridner: MUX files are totally fine
  • [16:57:03] <jkridner> as soon as I see something enter the mainline, I'll work with all the patches. I know if something too different gets accepted upstream, it'll mean a lot of re-work, but I'm really tired of stuff not being upstream.
  • [16:57:47] <dirk2> and I'm tired of nitpicking and only accepting part of patches
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  • [16:58:59] <dirk2> I fear that you give them everything they want by 'optimizing' only 'your' beagle and then we will have a lot of trouble to do the other patches
  • [16:59:05] <jkridner> I already sent v3. if you want to nak it and get a version in that uses the space so that the other patches will be easier, please do so.
  • [16:59:22] <jkridner> I won't stop at beagle.
  • [16:59:28] <jkridner> I'm willing to rework all the boards.
  • [16:59:51] <dirk2> jkridner: where did you send v3?
  • [17:00:02] <jkridner> everyone points fingers, but I'm only interested in seeing OMAP3 support upstream.
  • [17:00:23] <jkridner> I screwed up the header. it is just labeled [PATCH-ARM]
  • [17:00:30] <jkridner> it should be in reply to wdenk_.
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  • [17:01:26] <jkridner> would be nice if j24 responded to your ping or to the patch e-mail.
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  • [17:02:02] <dirk2> jkridner: ah, yes, I have the mail, was sorted in an other folder ;)
  • [17:04:09] <vpdn> I'm looking for a way to connect two beagleboards together (need to sync them). Has anyone successfully tried usbnet?
  • [17:04:53] <jkridner> I've enumerated usbnet between a beagle and itself, but never configured the interfaces.
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  • [17:12:14] <dirk2> jkridner: What has to be done to convert the four remaining patches (Overo, EVM, Pandora and Zoom1) to the same format as you did for Beagle? Remove blank lines (which files?) and reformat mux?
  • [17:12:56] <jkridner> dirk2: http://lists.denx.de/pipermail/u-boot/2009-January/046088.html actually looks better than http://lists.denx.de/pipermail/u-boot/2009-January/046094.html regarding soren's name.
  • [17:12:59] <dirk2> Could we do this *now*? How long will it take? 1 hour? I'd really like that j24 would be able to apply all 5 boards and not only beagle
  • [17:13:29] <jkridner> I want to see the final format/requirements that are accepted.
  • [17:13:38] <jkridner> I imagine it will take about 15 minutes per board.
  • [17:14:08] <jkridner> your patches are mostly right. just a minute or so to remove extra lines at the ends of files.
  • [17:14:09] <dirk2> k. If they say beagle is fine, we will try to do remaining 4 immediately?
  • [17:14:23] <jkridner> maybe 5-10 minutes to redo the tabs.
  • [17:14:42] <jkridner> yes. I won't let them sit around.
  • [17:14:50] <dirk2> k
  • [17:14:53] <jkridner> I'll at least get them done in the next day.
  • [17:15:25] <jkridner> I'll want to add the mini board as well.
  • [17:15:29] <dirk2> will start now and send you for confirmation
  • [17:16:00] <dirk2> jkridner: no new code at the moment please. Let us add fixes/new features if OMAP3 is in mainline
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  • [17:16:15] <jkridner> k, but if you waste your time because wdenk doesn't like those comments with spaces, please don't blame me.
  • [17:17:04] <jkridner> dirk2: I'm not going to do *any* code until I get something building from a mainline pull.
  • [17:17:27] <jkridner> only thing I might do is to rework this one patch.
  • [17:17:40] <jkridner> as I've said, I already have another version based on issues found with git-am.
  • [17:18:22] <jkridner> http://www.beagleboard.org/gitweb/?p=u-boot-arm.git;a=commit;h=1038bef85cb766e82b9597743ae4ad369d5f77bd is different from what has already been submitted.
  • [17:18:33] <jkridner> there are still some left-over comments from the SDP.
  • [17:18:51] <jkridner> but, I removed the ones where they had spaces before tabs.
  • [17:19:21] <jkridner> git-am is pickier than git-apply.
  • [17:20:55] <jkridner> dirk2: http://www.beagleboard.org/~arago/0001-OMAP3-Add-Beagle-Board-and-common-power-code.patch.txt is my "v4" patch.
  • [17:21:53] <jkridner> note no blank lines before next diff nor spaces before tabs.
  • [17:22:33] * jkridner wishes the whole world would eliminate \t. :)
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  • [17:27:56] <dirk2> jkridner: Mhh, you mixed link numbering in README.omap3? There is "[1]" two times
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  • [17:28:33] <jkridner> :(
  • [17:29:05] <jkridner> I missed omap3 soc reference.
  • [17:29:31] <dirk2> jkridner: np, I fix it
  • [17:29:49] <dirk2> jkridner: needed to make the other patches without rejects ;)
  • [17:30:39] <jkridner> k. I'll apply and check your patch as soon as it comes through. will you base it off of http://www.beagleboard.org/~arago/0001-OMAP3-Add-Beagle-Board-and-common-power-code.patch.txt ?
  • [17:30:46] <jkridner> or will you leave out the tab changes?
  • [17:31:01] <jkridner> (and git-am fixes)
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  • [17:36:29] <dirk2> jkridner: blank line fixes are done on all 4 remaining patches
  • [17:36:38] <dirk2> jkridner: how did you MUX changes?
  • [17:39:03] <jkridner> I reduced the tab in the middle by one after replacing the space at the beginning with a tab.
  • [17:39:52] <jkridner> if it was not possible to keep things lined-up based on the left portion being moved right, then I moved to a new line.
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  • [17:40:51] <jkridner> I deleted comments for uses of pins that don't apply to beagle if they were on their own line.
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  • [17:41:19] <jkridner> there were 4 where the comments had spaces before the tabs and the comments did not apply to beagle.
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  • [17:42:26] <jkridner> I think we'd have been better off if wdenk_ accepted the patch and asked us to provide a clean-up patch.
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  • [17:45:27] <dirk2> jkridner: I looked at your MUX tab changes. From my point of view this is something we shouldn't do. It's horrible to read. Blank line: Yes. TAB in MUX no.
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  • [17:54:25] <dirk2> jkridner: -> #u-boot
  • [17:56:31] <n6pfk> Hi, I am trying to understand the what the various parts of the boot process do. Like why is X-boot needed and is u-boot and image file and where they wind up in ram and what their startup addresses are?
  • [18:00:09] <dirk2> jkridner: now we have a deadlock :(
  • [18:00:17] <jkridner> just got back.
  • [18:00:20] <jkridner> deadlock?
  • [18:00:43] <dirk2> jkridner: I have the 5 board patches with old MUX (and removed blank lines) but no working git send-email
  • [18:00:56] <dirk2> jkridner: and your git send-email isn't working
  • [18:01:25] <jkridner> n6pfk: I forgot that x-load might do all that you need to get started. the ROM bootloader is easiest to use if it only fills internal RAM. x-load fits into internal RAM, configures DRAM, and loads u-boot.
  • [18:01:27] <dirk2> s/isn't working/result isn't liked by wolfgang/
  • [18:01:42] <Swinson> does anyone know where I can get a SATA board addon?
  • [18:02:26] <jkridner> If it is my git-send-email that he has a problem, then I can use other mailing options.
  • [18:03:05] <jkridner> dirk2: what is QP?
  • [18:03:09] <jkridner> quoted?
  • [18:04:29] <jkridner> dirk2: so, wdenk_ is happy without the tabs?
  • [18:04:58] <dirk2> jkridner: hmm, not happy, but sounds like he will accept it ;)
  • [18:05:14] <dirk2> jkridner: QP, where? context? missed it?
  • [18:05:22] <jkridner> in #u-boot
  • [18:05:43] <jkridner> wdenk_: jkridner: the latest patch is not base64 encoded, but QP.
  • [18:05:48] <dirk2> jkridner: ah, don't know
  • [18:05:53] <jkridner> is that good or bad?
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  • [18:06:56] <dirk2> jkridner: wikipedia: Quoted-printable, Encoding to send 8-bit data over 7-bit path '=09'
  • [18:07:25] <dirk2> jkridner: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quoted-printable
  • [18:07:55] <jkridner> how do I encode soren's name in 7-bit?
  • [18:08:14] <jkridner> is it acceptable or not?
  • [18:12:28] <newbie1> swinton - how about one of these http://www.usbgeek.com/prod_detail.php?prod_id=0353 ???
  • [18:13:13] <n6pfk> Ok, if x-boot is in ram where does it load u-boot so that it doesn't clobber x-boot?
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  • [18:15:23] <n6pfk> Also I am assuming MLO is X-boot.
  • [18:18:54] <dirk2> jkridner: -> @beagleboard.org Inbox
  • [18:20:26] <bazbell> n6pfk: As jkridner indicated, x-load initializes the DRAM interface. x-load will then copy u-boot from the non-volatile storage and place in DRAM. u-boot runs from DRAM.
  • [18:20:39] <jkridner> I'll try to apply it.
  • [18:20:53] <jkridner> er, dirk2: I'll try to apply them to see.
  • [18:21:42] <n6pfk> What happens if nand is empty and u boot from an sd card with MLO on it?
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  • [18:27:00] <jkridner> dirk2: how do I properly apply those patches without a proper mail header?
  • [18:29:58] <dirk2> jkridner: hmm ;) You mean you need a "From: "?
  • [18:30:30] <jkridner> well, I mostly know how to use git-am and it requires a From:.
  • [18:30:54] <dirk2> dirk2: For sakoman I add a From: line and he is happy :)
  • [18:31:08] <dirk2> s/dirk2/jkridner/ ;))
  • [18:31:29] <dirk2> jkridner: but this is the format I use for git send-email ...
  • [18:31:37] <dirk2> jkridner: pain, pain :(
  • [18:33:13] <jkridner> should I not send http://www.beagleboard.org/gitweb/?p=u-boot-arm.git;a=commitdiff;h=fded104224dea2f2009dcaf4a37f2b1ead39e371 out as an e-mail (won't have QP, since soren's name isn't there).
  • [18:33:34] <sakoman_> jkridner: heh, welcome to the world of accepting patches via email ;-)
  • [18:34:17] <sakoman_> makes you understand how wdenk could get so anal about format!
  • [18:34:17] <jkridner> dirk2: I can add the rest of your patches in as a series.
  • [18:34:21] <n6pfk> With no sd card I get nothing when powered on over the serial port. If I hole the user button and power on I get "T40" with no sd card. I am assuming that this idicates an empty nand?
  • [18:34:54] <dirk2> jkridner: in above git link README.omap3 is wrong, so the other patches won't apply
  • [18:35:06] <jkridner> n6pfk: 40T only indicates that serial boot was attempted.
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  • [18:35:40] <jkridner> n6pfk: knowledge if the nand has a valid image or not depends on what happens after the 40T.
  • [18:35:46] <jkridner> dirk2: oh yeah.
  • [18:35:56] <n6pfk> Well if x-boot was in nand would I see something else?
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  • [18:36:20] <n6pfk> And/or u-boot?
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  • [18:36:24] <jkridner> n6pfk: x-boot generally sends output to the serial port.
  • [18:36:28] <jkridner> as does u-boot.
  • [18:36:42] <n6pfk> So my nand may be empty?
  • [18:37:27] <n6pfk> With the sd card inserted it shows x-boot followed by u-boot.
  • [18:37:30] <jkridner> n6pfk: it at least most likely doesn't contain a valid image.
  • [18:37:58] <n6pfk> I think that the MLO file is X-boot?
  • [18:38:03] <jkridner> dirk2: btw, I don't like that link for OMAP3 because those funky focus links aren't stable.
  • [18:38:05] <dirk2> jkridner: I propose two options you have, depens on what you like ;) (a) send my series and do additional beagle fixes later or (b) use your beagle patch and my 4 other boards on top and send this series. But if you do (b) please use old mux style and correct README
  • [18:39:00] <jkridner> dirk2: I'll make sure your 4 other patches apply and put them in a series.
  • [18:39:09] <dirk2> jkridner: or even easier: Send what you like, but please send all 5 patches (and a proper intro)
  • [18:39:15] <n6pfk> Ant that it runs from dram and then loads u-boot and jumps to it's entry point.
  • [18:39:32] <jkridner> should it be in-reply to my previous attempt?
  • [18:39:48] <dirk2> my git send-email complains about perl stuff :(
  • [18:40:31] <n6pfk> I want to run a program other than u-boot from xboot.
  • [18:40:42] <dirk2> jkridner: no, I propose a complete new series, explaining in intro that everything older isn't necessary any more
  • [18:40:58] <jkridner> k.
  • [18:41:18] <jkridner> that makes it easier. I'll be sure to get a cover-letter in there.
  • [18:45:02] <jkridner> dirk2: didn't we fix all the register offsets?
  • [18:45:13] <jkridner> what is wdenk_ talking about?
  • [18:46:36] <n6pfk> Just a small program to echo a string to the uart initially.
  • [18:46:48] <jkridner> dirk2: can you recheck http://www.beagleboard.org/gitweb/?p=u-boot-arm.git;a=commitdiff;h=67922179c4a36dba899a0d4edecb7a688568e58c I'm going to try applying your patches now.
  • [18:49:06] <n6pfk> Then eventually an instant on browser, etc., without any os involved.
  • [18:49:39] <n6pfk> A cloud machine.
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  • [18:52:45] <n6pfk> Or maybe a pong game. It really doesn't matter until I have a proof of concept, so to speak.
  • [18:53:16] <dirk2> jkridner: from looking at above git link, looks fine. If the other 4 patches still apply: ok
  • [18:53:44] <jkridner> they all applied.
  • [18:53:49] <jkridner> see http://www.beagleboard.org/gitweb/?p=u-boot-arm.git;a=shortlog;h=j24-beagleboard
  • [18:55:52] <dirk2> jkridner: k. Then give git-send-email a go!
  • [18:56:27] <dirk2> jkridner: At the moment, I don't really care any more about the content of the patches. The content still can be fixed later
  • [18:56:30] <jkridner> doing git-format-patch now.
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  • [19:10:37] <jkridner> dirk2: patches made with git-format-patch are here: http://www.beagleboard.org/~arago/u-boot-patches/
  • [19:10:46] <jkridner> I'm building them all now.
  • [19:11:29] <n6pfk> Anyway If I have a small program I want to run, stand alone, without U-boot, can I do it?
  • [19:12:26] <jkridner> n6pfk: you *can* do it, but I don't know if *you* can do it.
  • [19:12:38] <jkridner> x-load probably is an even easier place to start than u-boot.
  • [19:12:47] <n6pfk> That's fair.
  • [19:13:09] <n6pfk> How is that I don't want to configure ram, etc.
  • [19:13:52] <dirk2> jkridner: patch 2 - 5 are wrong. They are only ~3k
  • [19:14:10] <jkridner> :(
  • [19:14:16] <jkridner> seem to be missing new files.
  • [19:14:23] <dirk2> jkridner: yes
  • [19:15:39] <jkridner> does the v2 go before or after the x/5?
  • [19:15:54] <jkridner> I'd fixed that by hand to match yours.
  • [19:16:14] <jkridner> redoing the patches to add the files should be direct.
  • [19:16:23] <n6pfk> I have an image file called xyz.rom. Do I just rename it to u-boot.img?
  • [19:18:31] <n6pfk> The file runs in qemu.
  • [19:19:25] <n6pfk> qemu-system-arm to be exact.
  • [19:20:44] <n6pfk> With the serial pointed to stdio.
  • [19:21:24] <jkridner> x-load looks for a file called u-boot.bin on the SD card.
  • [19:21:54] <jkridner> the ROM looks for a file called MLO on the SD card.
  • [19:22:26] <jkridner> MLO is x-load which is "signed" and renamed.
  • [19:22:28] <jkridner> see the signGP utility to "sign" your image.
  • [19:22:56] <n6pfk> Got that much, so rename it to u-boot.img and hope after signing it.
  • [19:24:18] <n6pfk> Stimulating discussion. I'll be back with the results.
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  • [19:33:43] <kulve> n6pfk: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard#BootRom
  • [19:35:38] <n6pfk> Thanks for the link.
  • [19:38:48] <jkridner> dirk2: having a From: line really helps. I started over again and added a From: line for you and things are looking better.
  • [19:42:13] <dirk2> yeah, understood. But patches for git send-mail don't need a from, because git send-email add it. So I always have to carefully consider the target for the patches...
  • [19:42:26] <jkridner> dirk2: look at the directory again and see if you like it.
  • [19:42:38] <jkridner> but, I think it doesn't hurt.
  • [19:43:37] <jkridner> do you see http://www.beagleboard.org/~arago/u-boot-patches/ as good to go now?
  • [19:44:11] * jkridner wonders why zoom1 is smaller
  • [19:45:24] <Strontium> Whats the best state for an unconnected pin on the beagle? Input with internal pulldown enabled?
  • [19:45:24] <jkridner> looks like the savings is in the mux setup.
  • [19:46:25] <dirk2> jkridner: patches apply fine, compiling now. Yes, zoom1 has less pin mux.
  • [19:48:14] <dirk2> jkridner: compile beagle - ok
  • [19:49:23] <dirk2> jkridner: compile overo - ok
  • [19:50:33] <dirk2> jkridner: compile evm - ok
  • [19:51:49] <dirk2> jkridner: compile pandora - ok
  • [19:52:49] <dirk2> jkridner: compile zoom1 - ok
  • [19:53:02] <dirk2> jkridner: go with git send-email
  • [19:53:14] <jkridner> k. as soon as my machine finishes the compile I've got going, I'll do the send.
  • [19:53:25] <jkridner> shouldn't take but a couple more minutes.
  • [19:53:56] <dirk2> my machine is faster???
  • [19:56:15] <jkridner> its away.
  • [19:56:18] <jkridner> probably.
  • [19:56:38] <jkridner> I'm not doing this on my Mac. I'm using a small instance on Amazon.
  • [20:11:49] <dirk2> jkridner: thanks for sending the 5 patches, got them. Now let us see if you have to be frustrated at monday or not ;) bye
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  • [20:22:00] <koen> sweet, omap3 support in uboot master
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  • [20:26:18] <dirk2> koen: unfortunately: no
  • [20:26:48] <dirk2> koen: only 8 core patches in u-boot-arm master
  • [20:27:09] <dirk2> koen: the 5 board patches are still missing. jkridner just sent them
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  • [20:27:49] <dirk2> koen: and when everyhing is in u-boot-arm, wolfgang still has to accept the git pull for u-boot master ...
  • [20:28:00] <neldoreth> hey there - i came across the beagleboard and found in addtion this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lufBmvt0dWA showing an OMAP35 and was thinking if anyone here knows a compatible (cheap) touchscreen which i would can use for the beagle board
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  • [20:30:04] <jkridner> evm is $1500 with touchscreen. I expect Overo expansions with touchscreen to come out before too long.
  • [20:30:32] <jkridner> I'm not yet aware of a beagleboard touchscreen expansion and it almost certainly won't happen before Rev C.
  • [20:31:04] <Strontium> neldoreth, once rev C comes out, I expect there will be a number of cheap touchscreen LCD options for Beagle.
  • [20:31:12] <jkridner> to get the board shown in that video, visit http://www.ti.com/omap35x. the DSP codecs and 3D graphics also work "out of the box".
  • [20:32:44] <neldoreth> ok - thanks for the answers - is there a raw guess about a date when rev C should come out?
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  • [20:36:02] <neldoreth> all in all i want to develop a control system my terrariums (temperature, light, humidity, maybe photos, logs) which is easily useable and small - so i was searching the internet for possibly useable platforms
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  • [20:40:16] <ds2> how sophisticated of a control are you looking for?
  • [20:41:24] <ds2> you might be able to do it with a NTSC LCD and one of those USB touch screen thingiees being sold for the eeePC's
  • [20:45:49] <neldoreth> i want to have the possibility to reach it over the network, can program and expansion it easily (maybe its based on a linux) - and can access it via the network (either lan or maybe wlan (if its based on a linux, shouldnt be a problem then)) and directly like buttons (but it would be cooler when i would have the possiblity of an touch screen, but thats not so important)) - first i came across some mini-itx (to pico itx) motherboards and searche
  • [20:47:01] <ds2> For pre revC, S-Video might be the easiest thing to do
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  • [20:47:53] <ds2> what are you going to use to adjust and sense humidity?
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  • [20:49:23] <neldoreth> another aspect would be the price (i am a poor student :D) - so the beagleboard looks really good to me
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  • [20:49:50] <neldoret1> uhm which messages got through - my network makes some troubles right now :/
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  • [20:50:12] <ds2> your last message was about you being a poor student
  • [20:50:36] <neldoret1> did you got this one: "neldoreth : i want to have the possibility t..."
  • [20:50:52] <ds2> yeah, that was before the student message
  • [20:51:03] <neldoret1> yeah ok - then my connection was gone :D
  • [20:51:31] <ds2> for a RevB board, the easiest way is likely to be by the S-Video port
  • [20:51:40] <ds2> unless you are a EE student looking for a project then....
  • [20:53:35] <neldoret1> no im not - just computer science and getting interested in this stuff - i have no problems afford 150$ board, but the pico its is about 330$ - and at the moment it would be just a hobby project for myself
  • [20:54:33] <ds2> what do you plan to use to sense and modify the humidity?
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  • [20:58:05] <neldoret1> thats a good question - did a little research today due a sensor and found something concerning servers and one with an usb port (also for temperature) - to modify: water-"sprayer", therefore i have to build something and may temperature - but i will have to do a lot of measurement concerning that
  • [20:59:01] <ds2> temperature is easy... humidity gets expensive :(
  • [20:59:52] <neldoret1> concerning the sensor right? - the humidity usb sensor i found was about 150$ :/ - that su*** if you want to control more than one terrarium
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  • [21:00:20] <ds2> yes...
  • [21:00:33] <ds2> you can get a cheaper one for about $20 but that still steep, IMO
  • [21:01:34] <neldoret1> yeah - but 130$ difference is a big too - do you have a link or name to that $20 one
  • [21:01:48] <ds2> let me find it
  • [21:02:21] <ds2> Hmmm it gone up a bit -
  • [21:02:23] <ds2> http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=8227
  • [21:02:30] <ds2> or maybe it was through another place
  • [21:02:39] <ds2> SPI is available on the expansion header so...
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  • [21:03:45] <neldoret1> hm i guess the link is broken - it says this product is not available
  • [21:04:10] <ds2> hmmm
  • [21:04:17] <ds2> look up "SHT15" oon that site then
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  • [21:04:41] <neldoret1> oh thats a small one :D
  • [21:04:48] <neldoret1> bookmarked it - thanks for the link
  • [21:05:09] <ds2> for a bit more they have it mounted on a board
  • [21:05:43] <ds2> if you decide to go with the beagle, put up a webpage and make an entry in the beagleboard.org area for projects
  • [21:05:53] <neldoret1> i have another idea - there are those cheaper completed temperature/humidity measures like http://media.conrad.com/m/6000_6999/6400/6460/6463/646304_RB_00_FB.EPS.jpg - maybe its possible to dismount the sensors from that
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  • [21:06:34] <ds2> good luck getting data
  • [21:06:50] <ds2> and it is probally analog so you'll need a ADC
  • [21:07:01] <neldoret1> oh right
  • [21:07:39] <neldoret1> @ project: i will do that
  • [21:08:03] <ds2> the only other digital humidity sensor I know of is one from honeywell and it is way more expensive then the sensiron (sp?) one
  • [21:09:09] <neldoret1> ok - but the sensor gets cheaper too if you will take more - but 20 sensors are expensive anyway :D
  • [21:10:02] <ds2> well, if you plan to have a farm of these... or plan to sell them...
  • [21:10:06] <neldoret1> hm is theren o cheaper way to do that - i think i will do more research on that
  • [21:10:39] <neldoret1> no i am not planning on selling anything - should be open source :)
  • [21:10:44] <neldoret1> open specs etc
  • [21:11:52] <neldoret1> and may the project will find interest and more developers then
  • [21:12:11] <ds2> heh, good luck
  • [21:12:26] <ds2> I was going to work one something similar a few months ago but other things took priority
  • [21:12:47] <vpdn> I'm about to purchase the beagleboard from digikey. Maybe a stupid question but I'm wondering: If I connect the board to a screen via dvi, I definetely need to connect a keyboard/mouse as well, no?
  • [21:13:04] <vpdn> since the connection via RS232 would be a totally different session.
  • [21:13:27] <ds2> depends on your application
  • [21:13:30] <neldoret1> i understand that - i think i will only (or better should) have time in holidays - dont want to study my lifetime :D
  • [21:13:44] <ds2> it is prefectly valid to run a movie player to output to the DVI and control it from the RS-232 port
  • [21:13:47] <neldoret1> what were you working on?
  • [21:14:08] <ds2> a network accessible controller for a paludarium
  • [21:14:25] <vpdn> ds2: thanks for the clarification. That's what I intend.
  • [21:15:50] <neldoret1> ok thats nearly the same - i first played with the thought when i had aqua tanks - what do you have in your paludarium? phyllobates?
  • [21:16:09] <ds2> just plants at the moment
  • [21:16:58] <ds2> when (if) I ever get the controller done, it'll probally get a betta added
  • [21:17:59] <neldoret1> how big is it? - there are much more interesting fish than betta splendens or other bettas :D
  • [21:19:01] <ds2> it is a 10gallon tank so there is no room for anything else
  • [21:19:25] <ds2> besides, I am trying to do a asian rainforest theme... betta's are from that area
  • [21:19:43] <neldoret1> yeah youre right - i was in the us about 2 years ago - they keep bettas in about 200ml or less :/
  • [21:20:03] <neldoret1> do you know the aga aquascaping contest?
  • [21:20:36] <ds2> nope, never heard of it
  • [21:21:06] <neldoret1> http://showcase.aquatic-gardeners.org/2008.cgi
  • [21:21:24] <ds2> stuff in there right now is all stuff from that area... old world orchids, nephentes sp., and some water stuff
  • [21:21:42] <neldoret1> its an aquascaping contest with people from all around the world presenting their best tanks - there are some awesome contributions
  • [21:22:57] <neldoret1> not bad - i always thought about making a so called bonsai aqua tank - but at the moment i am with my bird spiders :D
  • [21:25:11] <ds2> one day, that a project will get done
  • [21:25:19] <ds2> maybe by then, the moss will have grown out ;)
  • [21:25:23] <neldoret1> :D
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  • [21:27:29] <bjorn`> Hi!
  • [21:27:31] <neldoret1> hi
  • [21:27:54] <ds2> those entries are lush :/
  • [21:28:10] <bjorn`> Does this beagle board (or will it ever) include an SPDIF out?
  • [21:28:28] <ds2> no
  • [21:28:31] <bjorn`> I'm interested in using one for pulse audio, and connect it to my receiver
  • [21:28:35] <bjorn`> isee.
  • [21:28:40] <neldoret1> ds2: there are a lot i do not like, but there are some which looks awesome in my eyes - another nice webpage is cau-aqua.net
  • [21:28:48] <bjorn`> Do you know of any other similar boards that might include one?
  • [21:28:54] <ds2> but there is a free mcbsp on the header to so you can add one
  • [21:29:36] <ds2> neldoret1: most of the stuff I see are either a mix of stuff from random places or are focused on the amazon
  • [21:30:00] <ds2> donno of many boards that have SPDIF
  • [21:30:23] <ds2> you should be able to do SPDIF with a transceiver chip on the McBSP output
  • [21:30:50] <neldoret1> ds2: yeah thats right - most of the time its not a "only plants from their and nothing else" but rather a "look good"
  • [21:31:58] <neldoret1> there is one tank with an built-in waterfall - very impressive
  • [21:32:11] <neldoret1> http://showcase.aquatic-gardeners.org/2006.cgi?&op=showcase&category=0&vol=3&id=2
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  • [21:33:58] <ds2> nice
  • [21:34:18] <ds2> good stuff too look at after a lot of debugging ;)
  • [21:35:31] <neldoret1> :)
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  • [21:42:14] <neldoret1> ds2: which outputs of the bb are the most meaningful for my project - i mean concerning the sensors and then as an example a heater
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  • [21:56:14] <Xenion> Gute Nacht jungs ! / Good Night folks :-)
  • [21:56:46] <neldoret1> schlaf gut :) / good night
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  • [22:10:40] <ds2> IMO, GPIO's, SPI, and I2C
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  • [22:10:50] <ds2> arrrrg it is raining :(
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  • [22:29:22] <raster> ds2: moo!
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  • [22:40:21] <ds2> hey raster
  • [22:40:56] <raster> ds2: will get back to you
  • [22:41:00] <raster> just got back from LCA
  • [22:41:11] <ds2> okay
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  • [23:10:16] <neldoret1> good night - and thanks for the informatik ds2
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  • [23:18:26] <BigFatGuy> I LIKE BREAD AND BUTTER!
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