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  • [00:22:15] <mru> recalcati: I can't find that file
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  • [00:31:27] <recalcati> It is a 480p demo
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  • [00:33:01] <mru> can you be a little more specific
  • [00:33:13] <mru> a "demo" is something that you play, not a video
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  • [00:54:37] <BeagleTest> jkridner is http://beagleboard.org/user/blog.hangerhead.com
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  • [00:58:16] <recalcati> jkridner: ca you give me some help to have an opengl and a 720p with audio decoding demo?
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  • [01:05:35] <davidwang> Hi, does anybody use OMAP3530 as an IP camera?
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  • [01:08:41] <recalcati> davidwang: I don't know, which video input do you to use? usb webcam?
  • [01:09:06] <davidwang> CMOS sensor or CCD !
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  • [01:09:28] <davidwang> not usb webcam
  • [01:10:52] <davidwang> In fact, I want to use OMAP3530 as wireless or wire IP camera,
  • [01:11:53] <davidwang> with local display monitor, AV or HDMI
  • [01:12:56] <tyhk1987> hello,if i want to make the beagleboard run ,what should i do ? install Debian on my SD card first ?
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  • [01:15:13] <recalcati> tyhk1987: search in beagleboard.org Angstrom images
  • [01:15:42] <recalcati> davidwang: ops, ok, now I have read better.
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  • [01:16:01] <recalcati> try mplayer
  • [01:16:17] <mru> if you want the beagle to run, you need some bait such as this: http://gb.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?qs=3BH0p6621lMu59qSH2vhXQ%3d%3d
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  • [01:22:36] <recalcati> mru: which is the fastest way to have an Angstrom with mplayer that decode 720p with audio and SGX? It is possible? I need c64x?
  • [01:23:05] <recalcati> bitbake mplayer fails
  • [01:23:17] <mru> 720p decoding is just barely possible without using the dsp
  • [01:24:33] <recalcati> so I need gst-streamer with dsp link
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  • [06:24:01] <vlad_> mru: hey, do you happen to know where I can find fast yuv to rgb code for both x86 and arm? ideally with a license that allows me to stick it into mozilla directly :)
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  • [07:13:30] <garren|work> morning all
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  • [08:48:38] <DreamOfMirrors> hi guys, there's a way to buy the board outside USA?
  • [08:52:50] <koen> DreamOfMirrors: digikey
  • [08:54:50] <DreamOfMirrors> thanks, I thought they sell the board only in USA
  • [08:55:31] <kulve> DreamOfMirrors: they even ship to finland without extra cost (over 65$ purchases)
  • [08:56:11] <DreamOfMirrors> I'm from Italy
  • [08:56:17] <adj_> DreamOfMirrors: you might want to use it.digikey.com for ordering anything from digikey
  • [08:56:34] <DreamOfMirrors> thank you guys :)
  • [08:56:54] <adj_> DreamOfMirrors: Spedizione gratis su ordini di . 65,- e piu
  • [08:57:22] <DreamOfMirrors> ottimo...
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  • [09:33:41] <recalcati> Hello everybody
  • [09:34:04] <DreamOfMirrors> hello
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  • [09:41:55] <kulve> koen: Any ideas why host usb doesn't work with the 2.6.29rc2-omap1 + OE patches (in beagle, works on evm)?
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  • [10:31:55] <kulve> koen: false alarm. Looks like beagle doesn't like that hub
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  • [11:00:02] <koen> this "no matlab allowed for this course" is getting old real fast
  • [11:00:45] <garren|work> koen: which course?
  • [11:01:00] <koen> "lineair systems"
  • [11:01:22] <garren|work> yeah we had the same rule had to do everything on paper... it sucked..
  • [11:01:57] <raster> koen: just write a matlab clone
  • [11:02:00] <raster> and use that
  • [11:02:03] <raster> as is not matlab
  • [11:02:06] <raster> but koenlab
  • [11:02:09] <raster> it's allowed
  • [11:02:10] <raster> :)
  • [11:02:10] <koen> :)
  • [11:02:23] <koen> I settled for writing a cheatsheet
  • [11:02:32] <koen> we're allowed to have one handwritten A4
  • [11:02:52] <raster> write with a really fine-tipped pen
  • [11:02:55] <raster> and small text
  • [11:02:56] <raster> :)
  • [11:03:19] <koen> yeah
  • [11:03:58] <raster> maybe u can make some conductive ink
  • [11:04:01] <raster> and draw circuits
  • [11:04:15] <raster> some semi-conductive ink for the transistors
  • [11:04:23] <raster> make enough nand bates... u'll have an adder
  • [11:04:28] <raster> err nand gates
  • [11:04:35] <raster> and go from there
  • [11:04:44] <raster> write up a cpu on the a4
  • [11:04:58] <raster> then scribble down koenlab in binary in its storage
  • [11:05:01] <raster> problem solved
  • [11:05:01] <raster> :)
  • [11:06:57] <koen> heh
  • [11:07:31] <raster> can't be that hard!
  • [11:12:01] <koen> raster: back from LCA?
  • [11:13:09] <raster> koen: nup. saturday night
  • [11:13:23] <raster> koen: though i have a new plan...
  • [11:13:36] <raster> need to make a shm output tool for gnash
  • [11:13:45] <koen> aargh
  • [11:13:46] <koen> gnash
  • [11:13:50] <koen> why not swfdec?
  • [11:13:53] <mru> gnash doesn't use shm?
  • [11:13:55] <mru> wtf?
  • [11:14:01] * mru is not surprised
  • [11:14:14] * koen is still suffering from bleeding eyes from trying to get gnash to build in OE
  • [11:14:15] <raster> and write a generic "shm segment output + fifo control" front ned
  • [11:14:20] <raster> koen: gnash actually works
  • [11:14:28] <raster> not to mention that swfdec's main author is giving up
  • [11:14:29] <raster> :)
  • [11:14:51] <raster> i poked rob savoy - it didnt build on my desktop either
  • [11:14:54] <raster> he fixed it in about 5 mins
  • [11:15:04] <koen> I only used gnash on avr32 because someone payed me for it :)
  • [11:15:15] <raster> hahahah
  • [11:15:36] <raster> well - it's more usable than swfdec
  • [11:15:44] <raster> at leats it passes its own test wuite
  • [11:15:53] <raster> swfdec doesnt pas gnash's suite.. or its own
  • [11:16:00] <raster> gnash passes both
  • [11:16:13] <raster> and i was relatively impressed with how well it works
  • [11:16:21] <raster> i have spotted 1 rendering bug though already
  • [11:16:32] <raster> its glur filter doesnt account for proper blur and premul
  • [11:16:39] <raster> but meh
  • [11:16:41] <raster> minor
  • [11:17:08] <raster> i need to work on a geenric shm sgement input handler tho
  • [11:17:14] <raster> ie blast argb pixels to a shm segment
  • [11:17:20] <raster> send update rects via a fifo
  • [11:17:23] <kulve> you
  • [11:17:23] <kulve> can
  • [11:17:27] <kulve> produce
  • [11:17:34] <kulve> quite a lot of lines like that ;)
  • [11:17:37] <kulve> koen: (EE) omapfb(0): XVScreenInit failed
  • [11:17:40] <raster> :-P
  • [11:19:28] <koen> kulve: with 32bpp?
  • [11:19:34] <kulve> koen: yes
  • [11:19:51] <koen> kulve: I suspect it's a memory allocation error where it can't allocate enough memory for fb1
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  • [11:23:44] <kblin> hi folks
  • [11:27:55] <AV500> raster: gnash plays youtube?
  • [11:28:11] <AV500> and all the other xyztubes?
  • [11:28:23] <raster> AV500: yes.
  • [11:28:47] <raster> one of the things rob has been busy making work
  • [11:29:26] <AV500> it does action script 3?
  • [11:29:38] * garren|work is a bit behind on but thinks koenlab is a cool idea
  • [11:29:49] <raster> apparently
  • [11:29:55] <raster> its not perfect
  • [11:29:59] <raster> not al classes areimplemented
  • [11:30:10] <raster> if u hit one - it will dump debug and basically it needs to be implemented
  • [11:30:23] <raster> as adobe/macromedia dont release specs
  • [11:30:34] <AV500> I know :-)
  • [11:30:53] <garren|work> can you create flash with gnash or only play flash?
  • [11:31:06] <AV500> only play
  • [11:31:09] <raster> player
  • [11:31:12] <raster> not creator
  • [11:31:38] <AV500> you dont have to create flash, the internet does it for you :-)
  • [11:32:26] <garren|work> so what can you use to create flash?
  • [11:32:36] <garren|work> thats not propriety adobe stuff
  • [11:32:45] <raster> ming
  • [11:32:45] <AV500> no idea
  • [11:32:47] <raster> utg no gui
  • [11:32:49] <raster> but
  • [11:33:00] <raster> i dont much like flash
  • [11:33:02] <raster> its an ugly format
  • [11:33:09] <raster> but the ability to play/show it
  • [11:33:11] <raster> is good
  • [11:33:45] * AV500 runs gnash/.configure
  • [11:39:50] <AV500> grah, it wants gst...
  • [11:39:57] <AV500> and AGG?
  • [11:41:12] <koen> AV500: and ffmpeg and cairo and ... and ...
  • [11:41:36] <AV500> ff I have
  • [11:41:39] <raster> yeah agg is a big fat c++ vector renderer (software)
  • [11:41:44] <raster> a lot faster than cairo tho
  • [11:42:15] <AV500> on the ARM? :-)
  • [11:42:49] <raster> dunno
  • [11:44:00] <and-ri> hello. i get an error when i try to compile gtk, i guess it is caused by a mismatched cairo config.... erro:libgtk-x11-2-0-so: undefined reference to 'cairo_format_stride_for_width'....question: what i have to activate during the cairo config to fix it?
  • [11:50:02] <koen> and-ri: why no use openembedded to compile gtk?
  • [11:59:36] <raster> okie dokie
  • [11:59:40] <raster> youtube playing in gnash
  • [11:59:48] <raster> the hardest bit is getting the damn flv url
  • [12:00:06] <AV500> raster: ?
  • [12:00:17] <AV500> what flv url?
  • [12:00:44] <raster> the way youtube embedes the actual video is ugly
  • [12:00:57] <raster> so u need to snarf the actual real source view url from the page url
  • [12:01:01] <raster> (and page src)
  • [12:01:13] <AV500> but this is an SWF, not a FLV, no?
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  • [12:01:36] <kblin> hm, damn
  • [12:01:40] <AV500> if you grab the FLV, you just play the media, not the "player", no?
  • [12:01:40] <raster> well aswf that sources a flv
  • [12:01:51] <raster> well.. if uwant to use the youtube player swf
  • [12:02:01] <AV500> yes, but can gnash play the .swf or the .flv?
  • [12:02:03] <raster> playing the flv is easy
  • [12:02:06] <kblin> I thought I used to be able to connect to the internet from my qemu-system-arm vm..
  • [12:02:06] <AV500> yes
  • [12:02:07] <raster> both
  • [12:02:09] <AV500> ok
  • [12:02:25] <AV500> so you do not have it as a browser plugin, just standalone, right?
  • [12:02:34] <raster> me - yes
  • [12:02:42] <raster> i dont want the rest of the yourtube page junk
  • [12:03:03] <AV500> it makes a nice testcsase though
  • [12:03:16] <raster> theres support for gnash a s plugin
  • [12:03:26] <raster> at least for konoqueror
  • [12:03:27] <raster> i think
  • [12:03:35] <raster> but its doing an admirable job
  • [12:03:36] <AV500> yes, that's what I am interested in.
  • [12:03:45] <AV500> the standalone is nice, but what for?
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  • [12:04:05] <raster> flash games
  • [12:04:08] <raster> for example
  • [12:04:12] <raster> just runt hem fullscreen
  • [12:04:23] <AV500> yes
  • [12:04:29] <raster> if u can snarf the swf src from the page src
  • [12:04:48] <AV500> or buy some from us :-)
  • [12:05:05] <raster> http://www.ferryhalim.com/orisinal/
  • [12:05:11] <AV500> ok, I got all deps resolved, compilin'
  • [12:05:13] <raster> has a chunk of really cute timewasters
  • [12:05:22] <raster> so far the ones i have tried work
  • [12:05:28] <raster> except 1 of the rendering issues with blur
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  • [12:09:08] <AV500> nice games
  • [12:09:20] <AV500> they have a random game generator :-)
  • [12:09:25] <raster> gnash 'http://www.ferryhalim.com/orisinal/g3/00sunny.swf'
  • [12:09:28] <raster> for example
  • [12:09:29] <raster> :)
  • [12:09:45] <AV500> still compiling (on an atom netbook)
  • [12:11:50] <raster> gnash 'http://www.ferryhalim.com/orisinal/g3/00crossing.swf'
  • [12:11:53] <raster> another cute one
  • [12:11:54] <raster> :)
  • [12:11:56] <and-ri> raster: you are able to play youtube videos with gnash? i tried it some weeks a go but gnash 0.8.4 was not able to handle them.....how have you did it
  • [12:11:57] <raster> anyway
  • [12:12:02] <raster> and-ri: ys
  • [12:12:19] <raster> includoing the youtube player
  • [12:13:18] <raster> audio and video sync is totally off
  • [12:13:42] <and-ri> raster: which version do you use?...
  • [12:14:11] <raster> i had to write a script to take a youtube page url and just snarf the swf/flv url info out and pass to gnash
  • [12:14:26] <raster> its also chomping cpu
  • [12:14:57] <and-ri> so you don't look the videos via the browser?
  • [12:15:17] <raster> no
  • [12:15:28] <AV500> <raster> i dont want the rest of the yourtube page junk
  • [12:15:39] <AV500> :-)
  • [12:15:41] <raster> i have a regular flash plugin for that
  • [12:15:44] <raster> i am playing with gnash
  • [12:15:52] <raster> if it CAN play it in a windowit CAN do it as a plugin
  • [12:15:57] <raster> the rest is childs play
  • [12:16:12] <raster> the hard bit is reverse-engineering all the macromedia goop
  • [12:16:16] <raster> that they dont document
  • [12:16:20] <raster> and thats been done
  • [12:16:27] <zuh> koen: kulve just fixed the 32bpp XV problem...
  • [12:16:39] <kulve> maybe
  • [12:16:47] <AV500> raster: there is also the plugin extedned API, some flashes interact with the JS in the browser
  • [12:16:57] <AV500> cant have that standalone
  • [12:17:03] <raster> thats nastier :)
  • [12:17:07] <raster> sure
  • [12:17:26] <AV500> but the other way it's true, if it works standalone it should also as plugin
  • [12:17:42] <raster> wow
  • [12:17:52] <raster> even flashplayers + x eat 40% of my cpu combined
  • [12:18:15] <and-ri> well...it is strange that i could not watch the youtube videos with gnash.....
  • [12:18:21] <raster> err flashplayer (macromedias closed one)
  • [12:18:28] <raster> gnash eats about 40% all on its own
  • [12:18:34] <raster> with minimal x
  • [12:18:42] <AV500> flashplayer on linux is a real cpu hog
  • [12:19:37] <raster> yeah
  • [12:19:41] <raster> apparently they just spin
  • [12:19:50] <raster> they dont have any form of select()
  • [12:19:55] <raster> and waiting for events or timeouts
  • [12:20:13] <raster> they just spin and wakeup 800 times per second
  • [12:20:14] <raster> or so
  • [12:20:17] <and-ri> but here is a link to a report and he has made the same experience as me: http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/05/02/a-look-at-free-flash-in-ubuntu-804/
  • [12:20:28] <and-ri> what about swfdec???
  • [12:21:36] <koen> zuh, kulve: great!
  • [12:21:36] <raster> dunno
  • [12:21:56] <raster> but its working
  • [12:22:00] <raster> (gnash)
  • [12:22:04] <and-ri> damm...
  • [12:22:23] <raster> also apparently ubuntu just doesnt ship recent versions fo gnash at least
  • [12:22:26] <and-ri> i had installed it but it was not able to play flash9
  • [12:22:32] <raster> they just are miles behind - according to the gnash head dev
  • [12:22:39] <koen> kulve: don't forget to put it in the git tree :)
  • [12:22:49] <and-ri> oh maybe thats the reason
  • [12:23:10] <and-ri> i use a old version of ubuntu(6)
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  • [12:23:39] * AV500 is running configure on swfdec
  • [12:23:55] <and-ri> raster: are you running gnash on the beagle?
  • [12:24:08] <raster> and-ri: no
  • [12:24:14] <raster> on my laptop
  • [12:24:16] <AV500> grah, it needs new glib, will have to queue up on the netbook
  • [12:24:38] <AV500> 40% on laptop -> 200% on BB
  • [12:24:43] <and-ri> have you an idea how to install plugins on the beagle?
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  • [12:25:02] <AV500> and-ri: out the in the plugins/ folder?
  • [12:25:08] <AV500> and-ri: put them in the plugins/ folder?
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  • [12:26:13] <raster> man i swear i have played a .flv before with xine
  • [12:26:15] <and-ri> but i'm not sure if it would work....cause the browser has no function like :(about:plugins)...how can be sure that it ould work
  • [12:26:23] <and-ri> ould=wouldt
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  • [12:26:30] <AV500> what browser?
  • [12:27:04] <koen> raster: there are 2 flv formats: flash video and fli
  • [12:27:09] <and-ri> the angstrom thing....i guess it is epiphany or firefox
  • [12:28:36] <kulve> koen: I tested it now only on beagle and only with 640x480 resolution. With 16 and 24 bpp. And with "omap-dss.def_disp=dvi omapfb.video_mode=640x480MR-16@60 omapfb.vram=4M,4M omapfb.debug=y omap-dss.debug=y loglevel=10". vram=10M didn't work, iirc
  • [12:29:04] <Beagle2> koen: may I bother you in priv 1 min (ant)? I'm finishing kexecboot logo clut224.
  • [12:29:15] <koen> Beagle2: sure
  • [12:29:23] <koen> kulve: try 4M,6M
  • [12:29:32] <kulve> koen: I mean that it works now with 4M,4M :)
  • [12:29:36] <koen> kulve: i've noticed that the overlay plane needs more mem
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  • [12:30:09] <jkridner> good morning all.
  • [12:30:14] <koen> hey jkridner
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  • [12:31:49] <DJWillis> Hi jkridner
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  • [12:32:10] <jkridner> hi koen, DJWillis.
  • [12:35:28] <raster> koen: hmm seemingly
  • [12:35:39] <raster> thiss file.. no one wants to know about.. except gnash
  • [12:38:27] <jkridner> cbrake_away: nice youtube vid.
  • [12:38:27] <koen> hey DJWillis
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  • [12:45:24] <and-ri> koen: one question, cause you always say that i should use oppenembedded, how long does it take to compile openembedded?
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  • [12:46:48] <koen> and-ri: 0 seconds
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  • [12:52:00] <and-ri> koen: hmm....
  • [12:54:14] <jkridner> and-ri: I think the statement here is that OE doesn't need to be compiled. OE is used to compile other things. It depends what that other thing is how long it takes to compile it.
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  • [12:54:59] <jkridner> OE doesn't necessarily add any time to build things, but some of the things you might be inclined to build with it have a lot of dependencies that OE can satisfy (by building other things).
  • [12:55:06] <and-ri> jkridner:oh...thanks a lot for that
  • [12:56:15] <and-ri> then it is logical to use OE for all the beagle-stuff
  • [12:56:53] <and-ri> but at the moment, my laptop has some serious trouble....:-(
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  • [13:03:48] <jkridner> if you are worried about build times, you should note that the Angstrom Distribution using OE builds a tool chain and that can take a significant amount of time to build (not OE's fault, just that the applications depend on having the tool chain).
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  • [13:07:53] <koen> if you're worried about initial buildtime, you're using a wrong metric
  • [13:08:14] <koen> I've seen people waste man-weeks because they thought the initial 2 hour build time was too much
  • [13:09:01] <jkridner> koen: I agree.
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  • [13:09:48] <koen> jkridner: my C1D has been displaying a webcam over XV for >48hours straight now :)
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  • [13:10:56] <jkridner> great.
  • [13:13:06] <AV500> koen: so you are really preparing for the exam :-)
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  • [13:22:23] <and-ri> koen: do you study something?
  • [13:23:15] <koen> and-ri: EE
  • [13:23:17] <koen> jkridner: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/a70b34bab4b9555f6336111a975617c9.png
  • [13:23:25] <koen> jkridner: note the smooth gradients :)
  • [13:23:55] <jkridner> wow, that does look a lot better.
  • [13:24:09] <jkridner> what did you turn on?
  • [13:24:23] <koen> 32bpp in DSS2
  • [13:24:38] <koen> thanks to kulve XV now works with 32bpp in X
  • [13:24:48] <recalcati> koen: how can I have this ?
  • [13:25:25] <koen> recalcati: if you have OE, build a 2.6.28 kernel and the latest xf86-video-omapfb
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  • [13:26:16] <recalcati> ok : now I launch bitbake
  • [13:26:29] <kulve> koen: zuh made most of the fixes. I just tested and committed them ;)
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  • [13:27:30] <kulve> koen: I'm running cairoperf to see if it has anything to say about the differences between 16 and 32bits.. but I guess I have the results only tomorrow..
  • [13:28:20] <and-ri> koen: which semester?
  • [13:30:27] <recalcati> bitbake linux-omap-2.6.28 and bitbake xf86-video-omapfb were already uptodate, any help to make xf86-video-omapfb work?
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  • [13:30:39] <koen> recalcati: git pull :)
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  • [13:32:07] <and-ri> i'm very impresse that a student do so much for the embedded world
  • [13:32:39] <and-ri> it seems like he had a huge influence
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  • [13:43:10] <recalcati> sorry, I'm learning OE, I don't find the correct place to do git pull, I mean I don't find .git dir of 2.6.28
  • [13:45:38] <recalcati> koen: cd oe/openembedded; git pull
  • [13:53:11] <garren|work> koen: that screen shot looks awesome. Do i just build those two packages along with the rest of my image and it look like that?
  • [13:53:27] <mckoan> recalcati: does it work?
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  • [14:09:39] <Crofton> koen, some guy wants to buy gtk, you should sell it to him :)
  • [14:10:00] <Crofton> koen, what mem=xxM do you use when testing dsplink?
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  • [14:14:18] <recalcati> it is compiling all the world
  • [14:14:25] <recalcati> really incredible
  • [14:16:49] <recalcati> I'm afraid, when it finishes, that I won't know which fs to use to have DSS 32bpp running, I'd like Angstrom with X and mouse and keyboard
  • [14:17:17] <mckoan> recalcati: is your first OE build?
  • [14:19:36] <recalcati> mckoan: no, but I haven't understand how to integrated xf86-video-omapfb with the rootfs
  • [14:21:44] <recalcati> Inside tmp/deploy/glibc/images/beagleboard now (but the compilation is not yet finished) I have Angstrom-console-image-glibc-ipk-2009.X-test-20090114-beagleboard.rootfs.tar.bz2
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  • [14:27:13] <recalcati> NOTE: build 200901221451: completed
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  • [14:43:16] <mckoan> recalcati: don't be afraid :-)
  • [14:44:18] <recalcati> koen: for integrating the new xf86-video-omapfb I start from Angstrom-Beagleboard-demo-image-glibc-ipk-2009.X-test-20090111-beagleboard.rootfs.tar.bz2 or from some rootfs, I don't know which, compiled inside oe ?
  • [14:44:52] <cbrake> how well does gcc use the vfp and neon hardware in the cortex A8?
  • [14:45:09] <mru> not
  • [14:45:19] <Crofton> cbrake, poorly :)
  • [14:45:20] <recalcati> vfp lite
  • [14:46:02] <cbrake> does GCC use the hardware fp support at all?
  • [14:46:09] <mru> yes
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  • [14:47:17] <cbrake> I guess I should just benchmark some code on a geode, omap3 and PXA270 then ...
  • [14:47:46] <mru> you could write in assembler by hand ;-)
  • [14:48:07] <cbrake> mru: I could, but probably won't :-)
  • [14:48:40] <Crofton> cbrake, basically, you'll need to code critical sections by hand
  • [14:49:03] <Crofton> or, if you a are mru, hand assemble the program :)
  • [14:50:05] <shri> has anyone managed to get pm working on evm with the latest pm tree?
  • [14:50:42] <cbrake> Crofton: ok. Is this is limitation of the hardware architecture, or do you think GCC will eventually get pretty good at optimizing general purpose floating point code?
  • [14:50:52] <cbrake> Crofton: did notice the vfp is not pipelined
  • [14:50:57] <Crofton> gcc should get better
  • [14:51:11] <cbrake> Crofton: ok, thanks
  • [14:51:11] <Crofton> it is ok for the x86 simd sets
  • [14:51:25] <Crofton> as in the improvement by hand coding critical sections is less
  • [14:51:35] <cbrake> Crofton: IC
  • [14:55:38] <mru> gcc is unlikely to improve
  • [14:55:59] <mru> there have been no significant improvements in gcc since version 3
  • [14:56:30] <mru> 3.0 was in many ways a huge regression from 2.95, but it had some new stuff
  • [14:56:51] <mru> by 3.3 it was back to reasonable
  • [14:56:59] <mru> 4.0 again broke lots of stuff
  • [14:57:10] <ddompe> sakoman_: ping
  • [14:57:13] <mru> and 4.3 is often worse than 4.2
  • [14:57:57] <sakoman> ddompe: pong - just leaving now. something fast?
  • [14:58:25] <ddompe> yes, I just got a new patch for usb gadget in u-boot
  • [14:58:33] <ddompe> that fixes all remaining issues
  • [14:58:46] <ddompe> should I mail it to you to get it push into the usb branch?
  • [14:58:47] <sakoman> ah, OK! Is it poster to the list?
  • [14:58:56] <ddompe> I will post to the list
  • [14:59:10] <sakoman> send to beagle list and I will push it
  • [14:59:15] <ddompe> got it
  • [14:59:16] <ddompe> thanks
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  • [15:06:09] <kozak> Hi all good evening
  • [15:06:31] <kozak> has anyone tried adb android on the BB?
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  • [15:10:29] <recalcati> root@beagleboard:~# cat /proc/fb
  • [15:10:31] <kozak> I see in a post that this would be possible only with rev C boards!
  • [15:10:47] <recalcati> 0 omapfb , 1 omapfb, 2omapfb
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  • [15:11:01] <muriani> I guess you have omapfb
  • [15:11:10] <kozak> Is this the case?
  • [15:11:21] <recalcati> Linux beagleboard 2.6.28-omap1 #1 Mon Jan 19 03:53:29 CET 2009 armv7l unknown
  • [15:11:29] <recalcati> but I don't see S-video
  • [15:11:56] <muriani> hm, I thought s-video was just a display driven by the omapfb
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  • [15:13:45] <PhastPhrog> Afternoon all
  • [15:13:48] <PhastPhrog> Hey AV500
  • [15:17:46] <kozak> Is there an alternate way that I can execute a native hello world app on android.... I wanted to use adb but seems like it will not be supported...
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  • [15:19:25] <kulve> I guess most people here use OE and may not know much about android..
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  • [15:24:07] <kozak> Oh ok
  • [15:24:25] <kozak> I will try out in #android then.... thanks kulve
  • [15:24:41] <koen> Crofton|irssi: 80M, as roger mailed you :)
  • [15:25:51] <recalcati> muriani: so I can't have Angstrom coming out of S-video ?
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  • [15:27:22] <koen> recalcati: yes, you can
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  • [15:28:13] <recalcati> I'm trying to create another SD card
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  • [15:29:11] <machinecode> hi, does anyone know what is the curren tstate of the sound driver in the angstrom demo image ? does work ? is it stable?
  • [15:29:17] <koen> recalcati: http://pastebin.com/m6c722599
  • [15:31:33] <recalcati> thx
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  • [15:34:12] <kozak> just an update ... I guess a shell prompt opens as part of the boot process of android ..... I think I can use that ... will update when I have more info
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  • [15:38:04] <Crofton|irssi> koen: thanks
  • [15:38:26] <Crofton|irssi> I might get to try later today, otherwise it will have to wait until next week :(
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  • [15:43:29] <Crofton|irssi> ok, how to I switch to tab 11 in irssi ....
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  • [15:44:06] <Crofton|irssi> alt q?
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  • [15:46:19] <recalcati> koen: Very strange error - with 2.6.28: uncorrectable error : <3>end_request: I/O error, dev mtdblock0, sector 0
  • [15:46:41] <koen> recalcati: that one is harmless
  • [15:46:46] <koen> tomba: ping
  • [15:47:27] <jkridner> machinecode: it seems stable to me, but I've heard from others that it was not. I'm waiting for a more definitive bug to be reported.
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  • [15:49:00] <recalcati> koen: so maybe my bootargs are wrong? bootcmd=mmcinit;fatload mmc 0 80300000 UIMAGE.BIN;bootm 80300000
  • [15:49:06] <recalcati> bootargs=console=ttyS2,115200n8 console=tty0 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootwait rootfstype=ext3 video=omapfb:mode:720p60,vram:2M,vram:4M
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  • [15:49:42] <atin_> jkridner: ping?
  • [15:49:45] <recalcati> The same bootargs work with 2.6.27 and same rootf
  • [15:49:46] <atin_> ddompe: ping?
  • [15:49:54] <ddompe> atin_: pong
  • [15:50:26] <jkridner> pong
  • [15:50:32] <atin_> hey, in response to jkridner's email - I thought that the omap3-dev-usb branch was sort of separate for now until we decided it was good to merge to omap3-dev
  • [15:50:43] <atin_> if we were ever actually going to do that.
  • [15:50:55] <atin_> I think that might have been why the mailing list wasn't involved.
  • [15:51:27] <jkridner> k. I fully expected it to be merged once it worked.
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  • [15:51:42] <atin_> tho why our patches to u-boot in general aren't getting into mainline is definitely something that needs to be talked about
  • [15:52:05] <dirk2> jkridner: we fully expected to have OMAP3 patches to be merged once they worked :(
  • [15:52:10] <jkridner> I think the issue was simply to not merge it until it was actually working.
  • [15:52:13] <jkridner> atin_: would you attend a conference call to form a strategy to address that?
  • [15:52:29] <jkridner> I can probably just publish the dial-in number and let the people interested join.
  • [15:52:39] <atin_> sure, when for?
  • [15:52:39] <tomba> koen: yep
  • [15:52:53] <dirk2> jkridner: we first have to get OMAP3 core patches merged, the OMAP3 USB on top of them.
  • [15:53:08] <dirk2> jkridner: Davinci USB patches are an other topic, though
  • [15:53:10] <jkridner> we really must align our strategy to get them accepted as we seem to be being ignored.
  • [15:53:31] <atin_> jkridner: tho the usb patches are a little weird, we have other musb stuff that is also in front of us,.
  • [15:53:42] <atin_> jkridner: from Thomas, via davinci
  • [15:53:44] <jkridner> dirk2: so, you don't think the usb stuff should be merged until the rest is accepted mainstream, right?
  • [15:53:56] <dirk2> jkridner: do you have a 'strategy' to get the patches accepted? a lot of people don't have an idea how to do this...
  • [15:53:58] <ddompe> jkridner: what need to be working on the usb to merge into omap3-dev? gadget, host, both?
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  • [15:54:34] <atin_> let's talk just usb first. then overall, since that is a simpler one to solve . . . and everyone involved is here.
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  • [15:54:47] <ddompe> atin_: agreed
  • [15:54:54] <jkridner> dirk2: no, that I why I want to have a call so that we can brainstorm on the possible issues. I can think of several reasons why we might not be getting our patches accepted, but I want us to spend energy on the actual ones.
  • [15:55:08] <koen> tomba: I'm trying to get X + tv out working
  • [15:55:12] <dirk2> jkridner: No, I *know* from mails from the u-boot mailing list that OMAP3 usb patches will not be merged until OMAP3 core patches are merged.
  • [15:55:18] <koen> tomba: http://pastebin.com/m54ad7883
  • [15:55:26] <atin_> thomas did the davince usb code, that was merged onto omap3-dev-usb, then diego added gadget support. the host support isn't onto the omap3-dev-usb yet.
  • [15:55:27] <dirk2> jkridner: Have a call with christophe and wolfgang
  • [15:55:42] <koen> tomba: that script works, but the movie (on the overlay) is only visible on DVI (as expected)
  • [15:55:57] <jkridner> dirk2: with all the interested parties included or personal calls from me?
  • [15:56:09] <atin_> lol - ok, I'll wait. :)
  • [15:56:13] <koen> tomba: is it possble to have vid1 display on both dvi and tv?
  • [15:56:22] <tomba> koen: no
  • [15:56:26] <dirk2> jkridner: But before you have a call with christophe and wolfgang, I would start dicussing with them at mailing list and IRC
  • [15:56:41] <tomba> koen: as in, hw doesn't allow it
  • [15:56:51] <jkridner> atin_: I agree with ddompe that we shouldn't be too concerned with host on the OTG port until we have everything going well with gadget mode.
  • [15:57:08] <atin_> dirk2: so we think it is going to go. 1) omap3 merges, 2) omap3 usb merges
  • [15:57:22] <jkridner> atin_: I'm too accustomed to carrying on multiple conversations.
  • [15:57:54] <koen> tomba: ok, can the vid2 be switched 'on the fly'?
  • [15:58:05] <koen> tomba: so I can say "display on tv now" at any point?
  • [15:58:05] <atin_> jkridner: ok, on the usb side - I think we'll have trouble getting omap3-dev-usb stuff merged due to the davinci stuff already trying to get in.
  • [15:58:16] <dirk2> atin_: yes (regarding upstream)
  • [15:58:18] <atin_> jkridner: the host side is just getting mucho confused.
  • [15:58:51] <tomba> koen: from DSS point of view, yes. but if some app has mmapped the framebuffer, and its size changes suddenly...
  • [15:59:10] <atin_> jkridner: of course, the most fun I had was today when I looked at i.mx31 code in u-boot, which has its own specific files in there. the drivers/usb directory is getting all kinds of junk in it.
  • [15:59:37] <dirk2> atin_, jkridner: regarding sakoman's omap3-dev and omap3-dev-usb: As long as OMAP3 core patches are not merged mainline, I'd like to have one branch with core patches, only. And this is omap3-dev at the moment
  • [15:59:39] <atin_> (i.mx31 since I am going to go talk to some folks abotu helping then with u-boot for a product they are building)
  • [16:00:18] <dirk2> atin_, jkridner: i.e. I'd like to merge omap3-dev into omap3-dev-usb, but not omap3-dev-usb into omap3-dev
  • [16:00:40] <jkridner> dirk2: understood.
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  • [16:00:53] <koen> jkridner: check the loop device usage: http://linuxtogo.org/gowiki/AngstromAndQemu/Akita
  • [16:00:54] <atin_> dirk2: ok. tho if we are going to ignore host side usb on the otg port, maybe it isn't such a big deal at all to get the usb stuff in. it is the same as thomas' stuff, plus diego's fixes.
  • [16:01:21] * jkridner hopes that we can pull the new u-boot for Rev C from omap3-dev-usb, but suspects that khasim will push back.
  • [16:01:49] <atin_> dirk2: the changes don't seem to violate any rules ;)
  • [16:02:44] <jkridner> koen: cool. who generated that?
  • [16:03:16] <atin_> dirk2: if anything, maybe we can leverage the fact that thomas' stuff is already in the u-boot-usb test branch
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  • [16:03:33] <jkridner> atin_: are we ignoring NishanthMenon's work? we haven't been copying him either.
  • [16:03:42] <koen> jkridner: 'jay7' in #oe
  • [16:04:05] <atin_> jkridner: err - I haven't seen what he is doing!
  • [16:04:09] <jkridner> atin_: I believe he had some cleaner patches than ddompe
  • [16:04:21] <atin_> jkridner: oh. hmm . . .
  • [16:04:42] <atin_> jkridner: could diego or nishanth figure that one out? :)
  • [16:05:00] <atin_> jkridner: was Nishanth's code workign?
  • [16:05:37] <atin_> maybe we need to try to get the best of the two into the omap3-dev-usb branch (working best ;) )
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  • [16:06:06] <jkridner> atin_: I never got it to work.
  • [16:06:16] <machinecode> thanks
  • [16:06:20] <dirk2> atin_: When you think functionality is fine, do you like to extract a 'final' patch from omap3-dev-usb and send it to beagle mailing list for coding style and file layout review?
  • [16:06:33] <atin_> jkridner: so it was better organized as opposed to workign?
  • [16:06:41] <jkridner> atin_: I attempted to merge. probably useful to compare to ddompe's patch for style improvements.
  • [16:06:47] <jkridner> atin_: exactly.
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  • [16:07:32] <atin_> dirk2: ok, I do have some issues with the organization of the code in the omap3-dev-usb branch, especially the power and twl4030 code
  • [16:07:54] <atin_> jkridner: where can I find Nishanth's code?
  • [16:09:01] <atin_> jkridner, dirk2, ddompe: right now we have the twl4030 code right in the usbdcore_musb.c file. the ldo init should really be with the power code, and the twl stuff should be its own file
  • [16:09:31] <atin_> maybe Nishanth has it set up better.
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  • [16:11:03] <jkridner> atin_: I've lost track of his patch. I'll ask Nishanth to send it to our "short list" and hopefully he can comment on ddompe's patches.
  • [16:11:07] <atin_> dirk2: extracting the patch is easy enough, tho I think I'd like to see what Nishanth did and see if we can improve our layout before trying to get feedback
  • [16:11:08] <recalcati> k2.6.28: is up but, with video=omapfb:mode:720p60,vram:2M,vram:4M I have mode "640x480-59"
  • [16:11:13] <jkridner> atin_: and yours :)
  • [16:11:13] <dirk2> atin_: I think we have board/common/power.c
  • [16:11:44] <atin_> dirk2: yeah, but that wouldn't be the right place for twl4030_usb_ldo_init :)
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  • [16:12:15] <atin_> dirk2: one reason why I wasn't liking having power.c be common, since we now need a platform_power_init() call from the power.c file
  • [16:12:34] <atin_> dirk2: to reflect other board specific power init that needs to happen.
  • [16:13:02] <recalcati> root@beagleboard:~# cat /sys/devices/platform/omapfb/displays
  • [16:13:07] <recalcati> dvi w:640 h:480 e:1 u:1 t:0
  • [16:13:11] <recalcati> tv w:720 h:574 e:0 u:-1 t:0
  • [16:13:28] <recalcati> So I can use this kernel for S-video demo: its OK
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  • [16:13:53] <atin_> jkridner: also point Nishanth at omap3-dev-usb - that has all of diego's and my patches (except for the last from diego which hasn't been merged yet I don't think)
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  • [16:20:45] <GeneralAntilles> Nokia planning Beagle Board/Maemo 5 talk as FOSDEM: https://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Maemo_roadmap/Fremantle#Fremantle_timeline
  • [16:22:47] <florian> Oh nice
  • [16:23:02] * florian will be there
  • [16:29:37] <kulve> koen: http://tuomas.kulve.fi/tmp/cairo-perf-16vs32bit-diff.txt
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  • [16:41:03] <recalcati> koen: I launch the script for Svideo, but I have no Svideo
  • [16:41:10] <recalcati> omap-dss DISPLAY error: dispc_setup_plane failed
  • [16:41:16] <recalcati> omapfb omapfb: failed to apply dispc config
  • [16:41:21] <recalcati> echo: write error: Invalid argument
  • [16:41:27] <Crofton|irssi> someone should send me a pico for fosdem
  • [16:45:42] <atin_> ddompe: I just sent the patches up to beagleboard, hopefully sakoman will be able to put them into the omap3-dev-usb tree.
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  • [16:46:21] <ddompe> atin_: thanks
  • [16:47:16] <atin_> jkridner: I'd like to see a consistent set of sources on omap3-dev-usb that I can compare with Nishanth's code. I think the latest set of patches can be put onto the branch without any hesitation, they're very minor.
  • [16:49:15] <jkridner> atin_: agreed. at this point, what I'd most like to hear about is people's experience in running this new u-boot. Sharing a u-boot.bin and asking people to test the USB gadget function might be the best approach to foster good feedback.
  • [16:52:34] <recalcati> I don't see S-video, by now I'm not using the new xf86-video-omapfb
  • [16:52:44] <atin_> hmm, shoot - there are a few warnings.
  • [16:53:10] <atin_> ddompe, we can't return 0 when usbtty_configured() is false ... those functions return void.
  • [16:53:12] <atin_> let me fix that.
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  • [16:54:52] <puppe_afk> how do i build mplayer, do i do it in the OE env or outside of it?
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  • [16:59:43] <recalcati> I'm tring to understand how to create a complete Angstrom with the new xf86-video-omapfb inside
  • [17:00:40] * puppe_afk is now known as puppe
  • [17:01:11] <puppe> could anyone tell me where in OpenEmbedded do i find the kernels config-file? Or how to reconfigure it?
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  • [17:02:59] <recalcati> tmp/work/beagleboard-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/linux-omap-2.6.28-r0/image
  • [17:03:21] <recalcati> somwhere around
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  • [17:04:55] <eFfeM> hi
  • [17:05:21] <eFfeM> anyone by any chance any experience with ddccontrol ?
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  • [17:13:44] <ddompe> atin_: did you get able to use the usb console now?
  • [17:14:46] <mckoan> puppe: supposing you are using linux-2.6.28 and at91sam9263ek machine, look into /openembedded/packages/linux/linux-2.6.28/at91sam9263ek/defconfig
  • [17:19:03] <NishanthMenon> atin_, ddompe : I just spend probably a couple of days on my patch - it is not functional
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  • [17:24:43] <sakoman> ddompe: ping
  • [17:24:52] <sakoman> just returned
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  • [17:26:41] <puppe> mckoan:thanks!
  • [17:26:57] <sakoman> atin_AWAY, ddompe: would you mind resending your patches as an attachment?
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  • [17:27:28] <ddompe> NishanthMenon: ok :)
  • [17:27:34] <sakoman> for some reason I always have trouble applying inline patches fro the beagle list :-(
  • [17:27:40] <ddompe> sakoman: ok
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  • [17:28:12] <ddompe> atin_AWAY: ping
  • [17:28:15] <sakoman> ddompe: am I right that there are two patches to apply this morning, one from you and one from atin_?
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  • [17:28:42] <ddompe> yes, atin patch is just a small fix to my patch
  • [17:29:09] <ddompe> sakoman: will send you one single attachment with atin changes already done as an attachment
  • [17:36:09] <sakoman> ddompe: perfect!
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  • [17:51:39] <sakoman_> ddompe: the patch attachment you sent doesn't apply either :-(
  • [17:51:52] <ddompe> mmm
  • [17:51:53] <sakoman_> It seems that all the tabs have been turned into spaces
  • [17:51:59] <ddompe> ok, let me try again
  • [17:52:04] <sakoman_> I will try to fix by hand
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  • [17:53:12] <koen> sed -i -e s:\ \ \ \ \ \ \ :\\\t:g <file>
  • [17:53:22] <koen> if they were changed to 8 spaces
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  • [17:57:10] <koen> jkridner: another one for the validation kernel: http://cgit.openembedded.net/cgit.cgi?url=openembedded/commit/&id=2bb1dbdef919b7723bd3c3e175293e57052682ea
  • [17:58:04] <jkridner> not required for validation, but should go in if time allows.
  • [17:59:18] <koen> it would make jim happy :)
  • [18:01:57] <sakoman_> ddompe: OK, second time was a charm. Patch is pushed and I also did a merge with upstream so we are up to date on the omp3-dev-usb branch
  • [18:02:55] <ddompe> thanks
  • [18:03:02] <sakoman_> http://www.sakoman.net/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=u-boot-omap3.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/omap3-dev-usb
  • [18:03:15] <ddompe> sakoman_: thanks!
  • [18:03:30] <ddompe> atin_AWAY: please let me know if you can confirm it is working for you
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  • [18:04:08] <atin_> just got back - I am going to build with this in a minute and try it.
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  • [18:05:45] <ddompe> remember that if you have previously set the std flows in the environment you may need to re-define them
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  • [18:08:26] <atin_> yes
  • [18:11:41] <atin_> ddompe: I don't like that it shows MaxPower as 0mA - that can't be right
  • [18:12:03] <ddompe> atin_: I just update the page to reflect the current status
  • [18:12:09] <ddompe> ok, that's easy to fix
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  • [18:14:53] <atin_> should it not also say bus powered?
  • [18:15:41] <atin_> as opposed to self-powered if it is just getting power from the usb port?
  • [18:15:50] <sakoman> ddompe, atin_ : I'm adding the omap3-dev-usb branch to gitorious so you will be able to pull from a much higher bandwidth connection
  • [18:16:17] <atin_> sakoman: ok
  • [18:16:35] <sakoman> should be up shortly -- I am doing the push to gitorious now
  • [18:16:45] <atin_> sakoman, ddompe: we should change the page to reflect that.
  • [18:17:09] <sakoman> my poor DSL connection isn't up for simultaneous pulls :-)
  • [18:17:28] <atin_> sakoman: sakoman.net is like your home machine?! :)
  • [18:17:39] <sakoman> yes
  • [18:17:47] <atin_> sakoman: no wonder it takes me forever - sorry! :)
  • [18:17:55] <sakoman> that's why I mirror on gitorious
  • [18:18:18] <atin_> sakoman: we should change the openembedded u-boot recipe to go to that too.
  • [18:18:25] <koen> has anyone tried adding EHCI support to uboot?
  • [18:18:46] <sakoman> koen: are you volunteering :-)
  • [18:19:06] <koen> heh
  • [18:19:29] <atin_> koen: I think I've seen people doing it to u-boot-usb
  • [18:19:33] <AV500> koen: why not run a linux kernel in uboot?
  • [18:19:34] <atin_> koen: not us :)
  • [18:19:46] <AV500> you could boot over wifi
  • [18:20:09] * koen used nfsroot over wifi on his mythbox in the past
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  • [18:21:01] <ds2> didn't know they have dsl up in the woods ;)
  • [18:21:47] <koen> ds2: his DSLAM has an ip-over-pigeon backend
  • [18:21:57] <ds2> heh
  • [18:22:12] <atin_> koen: no wonder it is shitty.
  • [18:22:16] <sakoman> ds2: we have all the modern conveniences up here!
  • [18:22:21] <atin_> koen: pigeons do that a lot.
  • [18:22:54] <atin_> koen: (out their backends..)
  • [18:22:57] <ds2> IIRC, there was a lack of mobile phone signals up there
  • [18:23:41] <atin_> ddompe: it boots, shows up in lsusb -v with the latest code.
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  • [18:23:50] <sakoman> ds2: I installed a yagi antenna and cell repeater :-)
  • [18:24:00] <ds2> hahaha
  • [18:24:21] <sakoman> point the yagi at the nearest cell tower and you are good to go all around the house!
  • [18:24:35] <sakoman> How is that for geeky!
  • [18:25:57] <ds2> assuming you had a line of site
  • [18:26:10] <sakoman> I do
  • [18:26:13] <ds2> we had to get up to lassen peak for a signal
  • [18:27:00] <atin_> I'm glad I do software - no climbing things for me.
  • [18:27:17] <ddompe> atin_: great, did you try to talk with it (minicom to /dev/ttyACM0 ) ?
  • [18:28:46] <atin_> ddompe: I don't have a /dev/ttyACM0
  • [18:28:57] <atin_> ddompe: ubuntu
  • [18:29:04] <ds2> is usbserial loaded?
  • [18:29:15] <atin_> letmesee
  • [18:29:16] <ds2> at least I think that's needed
  • [18:29:40] <atin_> nope.
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  • [18:30:08] <atin_> ok, yes now :)
  • [18:31:28] <atin_> but no ACM0
  • [18:32:17] <ds2> there might be one other driver for CDC ACM
  • [18:32:23] <ds2> let me see if I can find it
  • [18:32:43] <atin_> yes, loaded that too
  • [18:33:21] <ds2> cdc-acm.ko?
  • [18:33:26] <atin_> yes
  • [18:33:27] <koen> atin_: does uboot support multiple endpoints?
  • [18:33:36] <koen> atin_: e.g. cdc_and and dfu?
  • [18:34:21] <ds2> inspect the lsusb to make sure it is advertising a CDC class device?
  • [18:36:01] <atin_> koen: ddompe - he's the one that wrote this code, I'm just trying to put it all together. I can see code that looks like it supports it.
  • [18:36:12] <atin_> koen: but I'd ask him. :)
  • [18:36:51] <koen> ddompe: does uboot support multiple endpoints?
  • [18:37:01] <atin_> ds2: http://pastebin.com/m43867727 - that's the lsusb output.
  • [18:38:45] <dirk2> sakoman: Did you try u-boot serial number patch?
  • [18:39:39] <atin_> ddompe: how do I force the cdc_acm to come up?
  • [18:40:04] <jkridner> sakoman: can you recommend an off-the-shelf brand for an antenna?
  • [18:40:07] <atin_> ddompe: the drivers are loaded from what I can tell.
  • [18:40:33] <ds2> the class = 255 looks rong
  • [18:40:37] <ds2> wrong
  • [18:41:10] <ds2> you can confirm that by running g_serial and doing a lsusb
  • [18:41:35] <ddompe> koen: yes it does
  • [18:41:45] <ddompe> dfu works with multiple configurations
  • [18:41:56] <ddompe> actually dfu only needs ep0
  • [18:42:12] <ddompe> atin_: your device isn't configured as acm
  • [18:42:18] <ddompe> setenv usbtty=cdc_acm
  • [18:42:27] <atin_> ah :)
  • [18:42:32] <ds2> DOH
  • [18:42:33] <koen> ddompe: I'd like to upload rootffs using dfu and poke at the cmdline with usbserial
  • [18:42:54] <ddompe> that should come from the default parameters (looking at the .h file)
  • [18:43:16] <ddompe> atin_: but you can do it manually
  • [18:43:23] <ddompe> after setting the value to cdc_acm restart
  • [18:43:30] <atin_> yes, just doing that
  • [18:43:33] <ddompe> koen: that should be easy
  • [18:43:45] <ddompe> I do all the time
  • [18:43:53] <atin_> tho I think I just killed my board. sec.
  • [18:43:56] <sakoman> jkridner: sure - one moment
  • [18:44:30] <ddompe> koen: I had some patches for dfu, but I better check if there are more up to date patches for u-boot available in some branch
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  • [18:47:44] <sakoman_> jkridner: http://www.wpsantennas.com/da4000sbr-50udigitalantenna3watt60dbgaindual-bandwirelesscellularamplifierrepeatercompletesohosystem-da4ksbr-50u.aspx
  • [18:48:04] <atin_> ddompe: as soon as I setenv usbtty cdc_acm, the lsusb stops showing the beagle
  • [18:48:46] <sakoman_> dirk2: on my list for today to try
  • [18:49:07] <sakoman_> dirk2: patch looks good to me - I think we should merge it
  • [18:49:13] <atin_> ddompe: oh, there we go
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  • [18:49:38] <atin_> ddompe: my bad, I didn't save the usbtty value before restart :)
  • [18:49:54] <ddompe> ok
  • [18:50:01] <ddompe> so, it's working?
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  • [18:50:13] <atin_> ddompe: no, next step. still not /dev/ACM..
  • [18:50:45] <ddompe> what's the lusb looks like?
  • [18:50:56] <atin_> ddompe: http://pastebin.com/m20a8f922
  • [18:52:03] <ddompe> atin_: that's better
  • [18:52:20] <ddompe> atin_: dmesg | tail ?
  • [18:52:29] <atin_> ddompe: yes, now it must be some driver that isn't up on the ubuntu side.
  • [18:53:17] <ddompe> on my ubuntu it shows up automatically
  • [18:53:32] <ddompe> on /dev/ttyACM
  • [18:53:34] <ddompe> *
  • [18:54:07] <dirk2> sakoman_: The "RFC" in subject is mainly for you ;) If you like it, merge it. If not, feel free to change/correct it. If you like would be nice if you could think about/check: (a) do you get different numbes on your boards. You have more boards than I ;) (b) the order of the 4 32-bit values. Is the order fine for you or should we change it? (c) shall we use complete 128-bit? or only a sub set?
  • [18:54:17] <atin_> ddompe: http://pastebin.com/m69592b97
  • [18:54:51] <ddompe> so, you should have an /dev/ttyACM0, otherwise is definetely something that you mess on your ubuntu
  • [18:54:53] <atin_> ddompe: oh, there it is now.
  • [18:55:02] <atin_> I just restarted the beagle..
  • [18:55:06] <atin_> not sure what that was about :)
  • [18:56:01] <koen> sakoman_: is the revc ehci patch in your uboot tree?
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  • [18:56:49] <ddompe> atin_: I update the web page to reflect the instructions better
  • [18:57:35] <dirk2> koen: jkridner's revc pin mux (ehci) patch is in sakoman's uboot tree.
  • [18:57:56] <jkridner> sakoman_: thanks.
  • [18:58:05] <koen> dirk2: thanks
  • [18:58:59] <atin_> ddompe: what should bps/parity etc be for minicom?
  • [18:59:56] <ddompe> 115200 8n0
  • [18:59:58] <atin_> ddompe: mine is set to 115200 8N1 due to /dev/ttyS0, but what should it be for /dev/ttyACM0?
  • [19:00:14] <ddompe> 8n1
  • [19:00:26] <ddompe> yes
  • [19:00:37] <ddompe> change it to /dev/ttyACM0
  • [19:00:48] <atin_> got it, works :)
  • [19:00:55] <ddompe> great
  • [19:01:12] <ddompe> now you can use your beagleboard with just one cable(TM)
  • [19:01:20] <ddompe> ;)
  • [19:01:22] <atin_> umm, hmm... froze. dang it.
  • [19:01:51] <atin_> ddompe: how abotu hardware flow control, software flow control?
  • [19:02:05] <atin_> ddompe: mine are both no right now
  • [19:02:20] <ddompe> no to both
  • [19:02:38] <atin_> ddompe: shoot, I just hit lots of returns quickly and it froze.
  • [19:02:49] <ds2> IIRC, ACMs don't work autocreate devices
  • [19:03:45] <ds2> s/work//
  • [19:03:54] <ddompe> atin_: reboot and try again
  • [19:04:00] <ddompe> I can't reproduce it here
  • [19:05:06] <atin_> hmm, its just got flaky. I rebooted, it came up but then hung again after a few returns.
  • [19:05:51] <atin_> so I rebooted again and did printenv and now printenv hung - feels like nand corruption, since the last time saveenv also hung
  • [19:06:03] <ddompe> atin_: weird, can you send me your image
  • [19:06:06] <ddompe> by mail
  • [19:06:57] <atin_> ddompe: its the same one that jkridner had a link for, you were copied on the email
  • [19:07:17] <atin_> ddompe: http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/web/musb_gadget-u-boot.bin.gz
  • [19:10:29] <ddompe> mmm
  • [19:10:35] <ddompe> that link gives me a file of 2.7kb
  • [19:12:15] <atin_> I get 180kb
  • [19:12:37] <jkridner> ddompe: are you logged in with Google?
  • [19:12:48] <ddompe> right, good idea
  • [19:13:04] <atin_> how do I erase the env...
  • [19:13:12] <atin_> I think I corrupted the nand somehow
  • [19:13:21] <jkridner> if you open in your browser, rather than wget, it should give you a forward link.
  • [19:14:07] <dirk2> yes, unzipped ~180k, md5sum: 5c4c29b232f4b82dc5bf4251ec97c154 musb_gadget-u-boot.bin
  • [19:14:17] <ddompe> atin_: nand erase 260000 80000
  • [19:15:19] <atin_> thanks
  • [19:17:36] <atin_> ddompe: I think it was my nand or something - after erasing, re-saving, it isn't flaky
  • [19:17:52] <atin_> ddompe: my saveenv had hung one time, and it was flaky ever since
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  • [19:18:23] <ddompe> ok
  • [19:18:36] <ddompe> so now it's working ok, after you erase your environment?
  • [19:18:52] <atin_> yes, and reset usbtty to cdc_acm
  • [19:19:09] <atin_> minicom can talk to /dev/ttyACM0
  • [19:19:14] <atin_> and seems happy
  • [19:19:15] <ds2> does the serial tty still work after this?
  • [19:19:20] <atin_> yes
  • [19:19:27] <atin_> I was using the serial to figure out what was going on :)
  • [19:19:33] <atin_> now I can go back and forch
  • [19:19:34] <atin_> forth
  • [19:19:56] <ddompe> atin_: please check your serial keeps working after you unplug
  • [19:20:01] <ddompe> or when you boot and isn't connected
  • [19:20:05] <ds2> nice
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  • [19:21:00] <ddompe> atin_: I tested with your image and worked fine here
  • [19:21:30] <florian> re
  • [19:25:03] <atin_> ddompe: I can run with both /dev/ttyACM0 and /dev/ttyS0 simultaneously.
  • [19:30:01] <atin_> ddompe: serial is not quite working, it shows output but doesn't take input. stdin=serial,usbtty
  • [19:30:46] <atin_> ddompe: oh, shoot, sec
  • [19:32:57] <atin_> ddompe: when you boot, does the ttyACM0 show the boot sequence?
  • [19:33:11] <atin_> ddompe: mine just hangs until it shows the beagleboard uboot prompt
  • [19:33:28] <atin_> ddompe: none of the stuff that shows up on the serial port.
  • [19:35:20] <atin_> ddompe: so of course, nothing about x-load shows up on the usbtty, but the u-boot header message, the DRAM, NAND, MUSB message, not the countdown to autoboot show on usbtty
  • [19:35:53] <atin_> I would have thought the u-boot output would . . . oh, unless the usbtty doesn't start until after the countdown is stopped?
  • [19:37:15] <atin_> ddompe: so I can't stop the countdown unless serial is connected.
  • [19:37:38] <atin_> ddompe: which means I never get any output on usbtty unless serial is connected - since it goes thru the autoboot instead.
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  • [19:40:10] <atin_> I'm just getting confused now - maybe others will try the u-boot.bin too - it seems to work mostly as expected, I think I'm running into user-error here :)
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  • [19:48:40] <ddompe> atin_: you don't see some of the info for booting because most boot code calls serial_printf (which is a low level function before the console is setup)
  • [19:48:53] <ddompe> you can stop the counter on usb console
  • [19:49:17] <ddompe> but you don't see all the info that the serial does display
  • [19:49:21] <atin_> ok
  • [19:49:27] <jkridner|work> sakoman_: why did we move from an enum to a variable for the rev c detection?
  • [19:49:58] <NishanthMenon> ddompe, wondering if we can over-ride serial_printf
  • [19:50:09] <NishanthMenon> mebbe not..
  • [19:50:26] <ddompe> NishanthMenon: nop
  • [19:51:31] <scruggs> was there ever a solution to mplayer build failing on missing vdpau.h?
  • [19:54:06] <koen> scruggs: I can't reproduce the failure, so someone who is seeing the failure should debug it
  • [19:54:50] <kulve> koen: did you notice the cairo perf results? Quite what one could expect..
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  • [19:55:08] <scruggs> koen: ok - I'll try and dig in and see what I can find
  • [19:56:42] <koen> kulve: I noticed them, good to see there aren't any unexpected slowdown
  • [19:56:59] <koen> kulve: and gecko will get faster since it doesn't need to dither anymore :)
  • [19:57:35] <kulve> but it may need more mem bandwidth..
  • [19:58:22] <koen> kulve: about twice the bandwidth :)
  • [19:59:56] <sakoman_> koen: http://www.sakoman.net/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=u-boot-omap3.git;a=commit;h=add630f1625bd8cf2dbe1a87e649b32a1b02423d
  • [20:00:50] <koen> heh
  • [20:00:51] <koen> if test -f ${with_libpng_lib}/lib$name.a -o -f ${with_libpng_lib}/lib$name.${shlibext}; then
  • [20:01:04] <koen> a few lines above:
  • [20:01:05] <koen> name=libpng
  • [20:01:13] * koen wonders what liblibpng.a is
  • [20:01:57] <koen> sakoman_: ah, great
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  • [20:05:32] <koen> eFfeM: how's the beagle working out?
  • [20:06:12] <muriani> March needs to hurry up and get here
  • [20:06:45] <sakoman_> jkridner|work: don't know on the enum question - I wasn't involved in the rev C detection code. perhaps dirk2 can answer
  • [20:07:05] <jkridner> he's already dropped off for the day.
  • [20:07:47] <Crofton|irssi> heh, I need to get a block of time to try usrp on overo's ehci port :)
  • [20:07:53] <eFfeM> koen, fine; was trying if I could get it to switch the monitor input using sw (ddccontrol) but with limited success
  • [20:08:36] <eFfeM> i can contro some things, but not all input switching
  • [20:09:38] <eFfeM> ofc this is some vesa protocol only available if you pay enough
  • [20:11:03] <eFfeM> dah found it wrote 4 to a reg where according to the prog 3 is the max value
  • [20:11:19] <jkridner> I just found out about https://linuxlink.timesys.com/3/Webinars
  • [20:11:39] <eFfeM> jkridner timesys also has some 35 podcasts
  • [20:11:43] <eFfeM> on linux
  • [20:12:08] <koen> eFfeM: I checked in a patch to 2.6.28 that lowers the i2c speed, that should make more monitors happy
  • [20:12:11] <jkridner> apparently they are doing a web-based seminar tomorrow.
  • [20:14:57] <eFfeM> koen, nice, not sure if that will help though, this is an iiyama monitor and not in the ddccontrol db
  • [20:15:39] <eFfeM> i found a windows based app that will do the change, but I've no idea how to sniff it
  • [20:16:00] * jkridner cannot find an RSS entry for the webinar announcement.
  • [20:16:56] <eFfeM> oh the webinar is even usign omap35x
  • [20:17:33] <niclas> > make PLATFORM=dm355 dm355mm
  • [20:17:40] <niclas> mt
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  • [20:23:43] <eFfeM> koen: have you ever played with ddc?
  • [20:23:56] <eFfeM> I get as part of the response: Invalid response, first byte is 0x00, should be 0x6e
  • [20:23:57] <eFfeM> 0000: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 | ................
  • [20:23:57] <eFfeM> 0010: 00 00 00 6e a3
  • [20:24:21] <eFfeM> not sure why i get 19 zero bytes first (and not sure if your patch will solve it)
  • [20:24:57] <Crofton|irssi> ddc?
  • [20:25:39] <eFfeM> direct display control or something like that, it allows sw to control the monitor settings
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  • [20:26:08] <koen> eFfeM: never played with it
  • [20:26:13] <eFfeM> correction: display data channel: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Display_Data_Channel
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  • [20:27:16] <eFfeM> koen is 2.6.28 more or less stable? haven't checked today but yesterday the version build in the oe tree was still .27
  • [20:27:55] <eFfeM> jkridner, was trying to make a hot button that would switch both display (using ddccotnrol) and keyboard (e.g. with synergy)
  • [20:28:37] <eFfeM> this iiyama monitor has the nasty thing that you need to press multiple buttons to switch sources
  • [20:29:04] <koen> eFfeM: >48hours of displaying a webcam stream stable :)
  • [20:29:04] <Crofton|irssi> .28 used to have working sound, but it stopped working
  • [20:29:13] <Crofton|irssi> I haven't check in a a week though
  • [20:29:38] <eFfeM> any plan when .28 will be the default version ?
  • [20:29:56] <Crofton|irssi> when we hace dsplink support I think
  • [20:30:08] <Crofton|irssi> we need a matrix of kernel choices
  • [20:30:15] * eFfeM tries to figure out whether it is worthwhile to move forced)
  • [20:30:23] <jkridner> I'm not familiar with ddccontrol.
  • [20:31:26] <eFfeM> btw found the hypothesis added to elinux on why usb on otg sometimes stops working quite interesting
  • [20:31:36] <eFfeM> you guys any commetns on it?
  • [20:31:45] <koen> Crofton|irssi: like http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/BeagleBoard ?
  • [20:32:04] <koen> Crofton|irssi: I'm trying to get SGX working on .28
  • [20:32:09] <eFfeM> this one I mean: http://www.elinux.org/BeagleBoardFAQ#USB_OTG_connection_.233
  • [20:32:11] <koen> Crofton|irssi: dsplink should pretty much work
  • [20:32:30] <Crofton|irssi> I think engine and/or dsplink had issues with .28?
  • [20:32:31] * eFfeM wonders if it would make things more stable if he cascades two hubs and only used the 2nd one
  • [20:32:58] <Crofton|irssi> exactly
  • [20:33:03] <eFfeM> koen, btw no success yet with the pvrusb2; i got all the modules loaded (i think) but somehow it does not show up in /sys/class/pvrusb2
  • [20:33:05] <koen> jkridner: http://bec-systems.com/site/326/intel-atom-vs-ti-omap3
  • [20:34:49] <jkridner> should be possible to even further optimize on the OMAP3.
  • [20:35:08] <koen> yeah
  • [20:37:22] <jkridner> I think that video has been around for a while.
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  • [20:44:04] <eFfeM> is there a way to skip the checksum test while testing a new package ? only want to add it to checksums.ini if it indeed works
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  • [20:54:29] <eFfeM> trying to make a .bb file for wiimote, but get a python eror, can someone glance over my recipe: http://pastebin.com/m3591d319
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  • [20:59:22] <atin_> why not add to checksums.ini?
  • [20:59:39] <atin_> eFfeM: it'll get you past that error at least.
  • [21:00:47] <eFfeM> atin_: it said not checking URI; I took that as "passed without check"
  • [21:01:27] <atin_> http://markmail.org/message/ptzia3dbwybxbqhw#query:bitbake%20checksums.ini+page:1+mid:rlfgxflcdls75zbf+state:results
  • [21:01:43] <atin_> maybe that helps
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  • [21:02:32] <eFfeM> will try
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  • [21:03:38] <atin_> eFfeM: also, what does your log file say?
  • [21:04:04] <atin_> eFfeM: look in the temp/work/.../log.do_fetch.xxxx file
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  • [21:04:21] <eFfeM> yeah was already going there
  • [21:04:24] <eFfeM> hi lw
  • [21:05:29] <eFfeM> atin, no fetch log, i only have a temp dir with staging helper script and an empty staging helper log
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  • [21:08:05] <eFfeM> atin_: rerunning but it needed to rebuild the cache
  • [21:09:41] <atin_> eFfeM: let me know when you get this in :) - I was working with libwiimote, but I just built it separately and copied it onto my board
  • [21:10:04] <atin_> eFfeM: then I got distracted by usb
  • [21:10:33] <eFfeM> not sure what happened, i change the var to 1 as you suggested, then did a bitbake -c clean, and now it runs :-)
  • [21:11:03] <atin_> its the checksum checking, it was failing regardless of the message I think.
  • [21:11:09] <koen> eFfeM: unrelated: libwiimote-0.4.tgz -> libwiimote-${PV}.tgz
  • [21:11:19] <eFfeM> koen, ofc
  • [21:11:47] <eFfeM> missed that, it is too long ago i made a recipe, copied something and modified it
  • [21:12:03] <koen> eFfeM: for checksums you could try http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/OE/0001-base.bbclass-only-error-out-on-missing-checksums-wh.patch
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  • [21:12:27] <eFfeM> ok
  • [21:12:47] <koen> that will report an ready-to-paste entry and it won't error out
  • [21:14:41] <recalcati> koen: I've compiled gpe-image but I suppose it is not the angstrom full with xf86-video-omapfb, I mean for S-video 32bit
  • [21:14:54] <atin_> NishanthMenon: ping?
  • [21:15:26] <atin_> jkridner: ping?
  • [21:15:33] <koen> recalcati: gpe-image should include Xorg
  • [21:15:53] <NishanthMenon> atin_, pong
  • [21:16:15] <atin_> NishanthMenon: are your patches against omap3-dev?
  • [21:16:22] <atin_> NishanthMenon: or something else?
  • [21:16:36] <NishanthMenon> atin_, they were done in Dec when we had a omap3-j24 branch
  • [21:16:48] <NishanthMenon> atin_, that branch no longer exists.. I have not rebased recently
  • [21:16:49] <NishanthMenon> :(
  • [21:16:59] <recalcati> koen: I'd like something like Angstrom-Beagleboard-demo-image-glibc-ipk-2009.X-test-20090111-beagleboard.rootfs.tar.bz2
  • [21:17:01] <atin_> NishanthMenon: ok :) - guess I'll just do hand tweaking.
  • [21:17:26] <NishanthMenon> atin_, yes, a bit of tweaking should get it working.. i think the board files got changes a little.. patch may not apply clean at the moment
  • [21:17:36] <koen> recalcati: then do 'bitbake beagleboard-demo-image' :)
  • [21:17:52] <atin_> NishanthMenon: that's ok, gives me a reason to really get into the code.
  • [21:18:12] <recalcati> its running: thx
  • [21:18:21] <NishanthMenon> atin_, thanks :) i never got around to getting it completly running.. but then i was testing it against a windoze pc.
  • [21:19:02] <atin_> NishanthMenon: I am proud to say I haven't booted into windoze in more than 2 months.
  • [21:19:23] <atin_> not sure it will boot anymore - most probably will want to update amillion times first.
  • [21:19:51] <NishanthMenon> atin_, i think it screwed up after the second reset in windoze enumeration sequence.. it did get thru the get_device_descriptor req.. was planninng on hooking a catc... but got diverted to "real work" thingy
  • [21:20:09] <atin_> NishanthMenon: anyway, thanks for the patch. I'll work with this and diego's code and see what I get out the other end :)
  • [21:20:33] <NishanthMenon> atin_, thanks for the great work you and dompe have been doing..
  • [21:20:49] * NishanthMenon wishes more than 24 hrs in a day
  • [21:20:53] <atin_> ddompe, I just tweak.
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  • [21:42:28] <jkridner> atin_: pong
  • [21:42:53] <koen> I suspect you just missed him
  • [21:43:06] <jkridner> ah... I see he set his name to atin_away.
  • [21:43:37] <koen> I had a question for you, but I forgot what it was
  • [21:43:59] <koen> I guess I'll remember it later if it's important :)
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  • [22:04:49] <jkridner> :)
  • [22:06:48] <atin_away> jkridner: I was actually looking for Nishanth, he answered me :)
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  • [22:28:30] <atin_away> NishanthMenon: ping?
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  • [22:28:40] <recalcati> good night ...
  • [22:28:59] <atin_> jkridner: ping?
  • [22:29:06] <jkridner|work> pong
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  • [22:29:33] <atin_> jkridner|work: any idea whether the fifo size on the zoom is 4k max?
  • [22:29:50] <atin_> jkridner|work: vs the omap3 which is 16k?
  • [22:29:53] <jkridner|work> zoom is same as other omap3.
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  • [22:30:10] <jkridner|work> just an allocation choice.
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  • [22:30:18] <atin_> jkridner|work: hmm, ok. Nishanth's code has a hard-coded 4096
  • [22:30:35] <atin_> jkridner|work: so was wondering - should this number be a #define in cpu.h?
  • [22:31:04] <jkridner|work> no, I don't think so.
  • [22:31:19] <atin_> jkridner|work: suggested better place for this?
  • [22:31:25] <jkridner|work> they are the same. it is an allocation choice. I believe there is a fixed total space.
  • [22:31:33] <jkridner|work> it should be made the same.
  • [22:31:37] <jkridner|work> for all omap3.
  • [22:31:38] <atin_> jkridner|work: since it seems to be processor thing. I mean max size.
  • [22:32:12] <jkridner|work> ah, true. different processors could have different, but I think the allocation can be more complex than just endpoint max size.
  • [22:32:13] <atin_> jkridner|work: ddompe had a #define in the usbdcore_musb.h file - which doesn't seem to tbe right place
  • [22:32:26] <jkridner|work> I think they share a FIFO memory region (I'm not certain).
  • [22:32:27] <atin_> jkridner|work: yes, that's fine. we just use it to check
  • [22:32:52] <atin_> jkridner|work: checking to see if our packet buffer RAM is exhausted by checking against a max #define
  • [22:33:31] <atin_> jkridner|work: ddompe's code as a #define in usbdcore_musb.h, Nishanth just had a hard-coded 4096 (which is smaller than what it should be for omap3)
  • [22:33:41] <jkridner|work> interesting approach. so each would be some default size or max if the default is higher than the max?
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  • [22:33:43] <atin_> so trying to figure out where I should actually #define it :)
  • [22:34:28] <atin_> it checks and then allocates a default if it was too much
  • [22:34:44] <atin_> or actually, allocates 0 :)
  • [22:35:15] <atin_> since we're exhausted. look in configure_fifos ... the code is the same, just the constant seems to be different
  • [22:35:27] <atin_> so trying to figure out where to put it :)
  • [22:35:49] <jkridner|work> thinking if there is a sane place.
  • [22:36:10] <atin_> it seems to be processor specific - the max total fifo size - so that's why I thought cpu.h, but maybe not when I actually look at the file.
  • [22:36:15] <jkridner|work> it is both musb and processor specific.
  • [22:36:32] <jkridner|work> why are so many endpoint buffers being allocated?
  • [22:36:39] <jkridner|work> are all those endpoints actually used?
  • [22:36:54] <jkridner|work> I guess it is because this driver is generic?
  • [22:37:04] <atin_> yes, I think that's why.
  • [22:38:02] <atin_> the goal would be to make it generic.
  • [22:38:35] <atin_> and nishanth's code is doing a credible job of that (we had put a lot of beagle specific stuff in our musb version, I'm extricating that)
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  • [22:40:02] <atin_> I would think it should go in one of the files in include/asm-arm/arch-omap3
  • [22:41:54] <jkridner|work> guess I'm not a big fan of putting data into .h files. I feel like this should be put into an array in a processor specific .c file.
  • [22:42:03] <atin_> From the OMAP3 USB technical reference: "The USB controller supports a total of 16K RAM to dynamically allocate FIFO to all endpoints"
  • [22:42:45] <atin_> so I guess the 16k is correct. hmm..
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  • [22:43:32] <atin_> jkridner|work: going to disagree there :) - its a constant, why hide it in an array - just makes the code confusing.
  • [22:44:18] <jkridner|work> I don't think it is a constant. maybe the way you are doing it, but I think you can make choices to allocate the buffers in different ways and it isn't just a maximum size check.
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  • [22:45:13] <atin_> jkridner|work: that's true - its actually a dynamic check. the idea being that the total allocated buffers size cannot exceed 16k
  • [22:46:36] <atin_> jkridner|work: I should have been more specific. it checks the total allocated size
  • [22:46:46] <atin_> across all endpoints
  • [22:47:12] <atin_> and then sees if this new allocation would exceed the max
  • [22:47:29] <atin_> and this max is processor specific it seems. maybe it should be in omap3.
  • [22:47:39] <atin_> omap3.h
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  • [22:48:49] <atin_> I'll figure it out..
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  • [22:56:16] <mib_49rtry> hey guys I am trying to set up the beagle board and use the s-video as the output, but when that happens the svideo looks like noise does anyone know to to fix that problem?
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  • [22:56:50] <n6pfk> Where is the I/O map for the beagleboard I want to use the serial port in a program.
  • [22:56:52] <mib_49rtry> #beagle
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  • [23:03:16] <ds2> what OS are you using that needs an IO map to use the serial port?
  • [23:03:17] <jkridner|work> n6pfk: you mean the c file in u-boot or the kernel that configures the pin muxes?
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  • [23:04:12] <jkridner|work> mib_49rtry: I think you'll need to give more information on how you setup the s-video. which kernel, etc.
  • [23:04:25] <n6pfk> I don't know but I would like to know how to program the serial port and if u-boot source has an example that'll do.
  • [23:04:45] <ds2> the IO map is in the TRM (it is embedded in the chip)
  • [23:05:02] <ds2> they are for the most part 16550's with an extra register for PM control
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  • [23:05:42] <atin_> n6pfk: what are you trying to do? write a serial driver? talk thru the serial driver?
  • [23:06:15] <n6pfk> I want to make a small program that is self contained with no calls to any thing else.
  • [23:06:35] <atin_> in what environment?
  • [23:06:36] <n6pfk> Write a driver for my program.
  • [23:06:36] <ds2> and I assume by serial port, you mean the UART vs the McSPI, McBSP, and probally other things that are also serial
  • [23:07:49] <n6pfk> Yes, the uart.
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  • [23:07:56] <atin_> the environment matters - whether you're running under the control of a kernel that won't let you just bang on registers without doing certain things.
  • [23:08:33] <n6pfk> I need it to run without a kernel.
  • [23:08:56] <atin_> then you are trying to run directly from u-boot?
  • [23:09:04] <jkridner|work> n6pfk: I would take the approach to strip down u-boot.
  • [23:09:11] <atin_> or are you really thinking that programs can just sort of start out of thin air? :)
  • [23:09:13] <jkridner|work> but, remember that u-boot is GPL licensed.
  • [23:09:27] <n6pfk> Yes. It's actually a port of OFW.
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  • [23:09:36] <atin_> u-boot has some examples of how to create programs via their api.
  • [23:09:50] <jkridner|work> what is OFW?
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  • [23:10:14] <n6pfk> Open Firmware--a forth system.
  • [23:10:48] <n6pfk> A replacement for u-boot.
  • [23:11:02] <atin_> n6pfk: you are going to have to do things like set up the memory banks, clocks, etc etc - basically all the stuff that u-boot does.
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  • [23:11:16] <ds2> the base address is 0x4806a000
  • [23:11:24] <atin_> n6pfk: so basically grok the omap3-dev u-boot code base.
  • [23:11:25] <n6pfk> Yes, eventually.
  • [23:12:12] <Strontium> if the www.sakoman.net git is supposed to be the source for the latest u-boot for beagle, then why is there no omap3 directory at: http://www.sakoman.net/git/u-boot-omap3.git/board/ what am I missing??
  • [23:12:57] <jkridner|work> the u-boot source is a good place for learning the process. I'm not aware of many other good "raw" C programs simpler than u-boot that can run from the ROM bootloader. There is the WinCE eboot. u-boot-v2.
  • [23:13:20] <jkridner|work> strontium: be sure to use the omap3-dev branch.
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  • [23:13:36] <jkridner|work> git checkout -b omap3-dev --track origin/omap3-dev
  • [23:13:50] <n6pfk> A forth system, like OFW, has better tools to test drivers etc.
  • [23:14:29] <jkridner|work> Strontium: that URL isn't the place to pull the code.
  • [23:14:39] <n6pfk> Can write cute video game with it too.
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  • [23:15:00] <jkridner|work> Strontium: see http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard#U-Boot
  • [23:15:01] <atin_> jkridner|work: I think the openembedded recipe for u-boot needs to point at gitorous instead of sakoman
  • [23:15:41] <jkridner|work> Strontium: http URL is only supported from gitorious per URLs listed at http://www.sakoman.net/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=u-boot-omap3.git;a=summary
  • [23:16:08] <atin_> jkridner|work: unless gitorous isn't the very latest all the time - his DSL may not be up to all the pressure we put on it
  • [23:16:19] <jkridner|work> atin_: I think that would make things faster and more reliable, as long as sakoman_ remembers to 'git push' :)
  • [23:16:35] <atin_> he needs a cron job :)
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  • [23:22:51] <Strontium> jkridner thanks, checking that now
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  • [23:38:55] <ds2> the form factor of the beagle just does not lead itself to simple cases :/
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  • [23:41:37] <atin_> ds2: too many goesintas and goesoutas
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  • [23:44:36] <ds2> indeed
  • [23:45:02] <ds2> I suppose it could be a 'doggie cube'
  • [23:49:33] <sakoman> ds2: overo buddy board with ethernet is crazy too!
  • [23:49:57] <sakoman> it is pretty funny to look at with every cable connected
  • [23:50:04] <ds2> sakoman: yep... but since I don't have one, ignorance is bliss ;)
  • [23:51:43] <sakoman> http://www.sakoman.net/omap3/overo.jpg
  • [23:51:53] <sakoman> a teaser
  • [23:52:48] <sakoman> I guess it is missing the camera flex and a cable off the header, so it could be even worse!
  • [23:53:31] <sakoman> ah, and antennas aren't connect either
  • [23:53:42] <sakoman> guess I need to take another picture!
  • [23:53:45] <ds2> that ethernet connector is annoying
  • [23:54:00] <sakoman> that's what I said too!
  • [23:54:58] <ds2> why do I count 3 USB ports on there; is there ahub on board?
  • [23:55:08] <sakoman> console port
  • [23:55:20] <sakoman> notice the lack of serial cable
  • [23:55:23] <ds2> Oh
  • [23:55:34] <ds2> so there is a FTDI or Pl2023 chip onthere?
  • [23:55:40] <sakoman> the one on the back looks like a serial dongle to your pc
  • [23:55:45] <sakoman> yeah ftdi
  • [23:56:26] <ds2> now if they only dropped the ethernet port in factor of a composite out...
  • [23:56:41] <ds2> or did the work and have composite mux'ed with the audio out
  • [23:56:50] <sakoman_> there are two versions, one with ethernet, one without
  • [23:57:04] <sakoman_> the one without is smaller
  • [23:57:05] <ds2> what ethernet chip does it use?
  • [23:57:18] <sakoman_> 9221
  • [23:57:21] <sakoman_> smsc
  • [23:57:43] <ds2> is that the SDP one or the Zoom one?
  • [23:57:55] <sakoman_> it is a new one
  • [23:58:22] <sakoman_> driver first appears in 2.6.29
  • [23:58:30] <ds2> oh
  • [23:58:37] <sakoman_> smsc911x instead of the old smc911x
  • [23:58:43] <ds2> is that integrated with the other drivers or YET another driver?
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  • [23:59:12] <ds2> and more importantly, does PM work on this driver? ;)
  • [23:59:27] <sakoman_> it is supposed to supercede smc911x and allegedly works with all smsc chips
  • [23:59:38] <ds2> 'alledgedly' heh
  • [23:59:50] <sakoman_> ds2: don't know, still struggling to get it to work at all ;-)