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  • [02:51:06] <brianpspmod> oh my goodness
  • [02:51:26] <brianpspmod> someone please point in the right direction in finding a beagleboard compatible display?
  • [02:55:29] <brianpspmod> anyone please?
  • [03:07:11] <brianpspmod> hey will the beagle board support a usb lcd screen?
  • [03:22:50] <vlad_> brianpspmod: ... grab a regular whatever-size LCD with a DVI port and just plug it in?
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  • [03:30:03] <brianpspmod> i cant find one thats the problem
  • [03:30:13] <brianpspmod> i have looked and looked and i cant find one
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  • [03:31:04] <brianpspmod> i need a small screen
  • [03:34:32] <brianpspmod> anyone?
  • [03:41:44] <Crofton> you'll need to wait on rev c and see what people come up ith
  • [03:43:48] <brianpspmod> oh are you serious?
  • [03:44:02] <brianpspmod> there is no tiny dvi display?
  • [03:45:46] <muriani> pretty much
  • [03:46:10] <muriani> I think someone rigged one up for the Efika a year or two ago, I don't remember
  • [03:46:14] <muriani> but it was a bit of a hack
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  • [03:47:28] <brianpspmod> man. see. there are less powerful boards that have tft
  • [03:47:34] <brianpspmod> just not us. this blows
  • [03:47:49] <brianpspmod> hey what about a tf usb converter
  • [03:48:29] <brianpspmod> see they have these little usb monitors but they are like 200 bucks
  • [03:49:16] <brianpspmod> but what about a tft usb converter eh?
  • [03:49:28] <brianpspmod> i can get a nice lcd for like 25 bucks
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  • [03:53:30] <brianpspmod> jrmuizel
  • [03:53:36] <brianpspmod> whats up
  • [03:53:40] <jrmuizel> brianpspmod: hey
  • [03:53:53] <brianpspmod> wanna help me out?
  • [03:54:02] <jrmuizel> with what?
  • [03:54:16] <brianpspmod> need a small display for my beagle
  • [03:54:28] <brianpspmod> like small. psp size lcd
  • [03:55:07] <jrmuizel> and?
  • [03:55:46] <brianpspmod> well l i cant find one
  • [03:55:55] <ds2> there are tiny S-Video displays
  • [03:56:02] <ds2> got a few extra here...
  • [03:56:02] <brianpspmod> really?
  • [03:56:10] <jrmuizel> I'm confused as to why you're asking me
  • [03:56:11] <brianpspmod> what size about?
  • [03:56:23] <brianpspmod> just thought you might know one
  • [03:56:50] <jrmuizel> not at all, perhaps you're confusing me with someone else
  • [03:56:53] <ds2> 1.8", IIRC
  • [03:56:55] <brianpspmod> d2 about what size and where can i get one?
  • [03:57:08] <brianpspmod> ooo any bigger?
  • [03:57:12] <ds2> Walmart used to sell them
  • [03:57:19] <brianpspmod> like 3.5? or somewhere around there?
  • [03:57:27] <ds2> I think BGmicro might have one
  • [03:57:33] <brianpspmod> hmmm where could i find one now?
  • [03:57:44] <brianpspmod> bgmicro?
  • [03:57:45] <ds2> lookingfor the URL, one sec
  • [03:57:49] <brianpspmod> ok
  • [03:58:24] <brianpspmod> im making a dual screen psp
  • [03:58:35] <ds2> oops, that one is 5.6"
  • [03:59:07] <ds2> you can look at www.earthlcd.com... they might have one
  • [03:59:47] <ds2> if you need one of those 1.8" ones, I have extra I don't mind selling off (brand new, you probally want to mod the connector on them)
  • [04:00:10] <brianpspmod> hmm. thats too small. wouldnt be able to see much huh?
  • [04:00:32] <brianpspmod> i might look for a tft usb converter
  • [04:00:32] <ds2> you said small =)
  • [04:00:42] <brianpspmod> lol like psp size
  • [04:00:45] <ds2> http://www.bgmicro.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=12900
  • [04:00:51] <ds2> this one claims to be 5.6"
  • [04:03:05] <brianpspmod> hmmm
  • [04:03:14] <brianpspmod> i dont think so lol
  • [04:03:38] <ds2> scour earthlcd
  • [04:04:36] <brianpspmod> i know
  • [04:04:38] <brianpspmod> that site doesnt have very much
  • [04:05:01] <ds2> really?
  • [04:05:22] <brianpspmod> nope
  • [04:05:24] <brianpspmod> i would like a little dvi display
  • [04:06:05] <ds2> you're right... their stock seems to have dried up considerably
  • [04:06:11] <ds2> they used to have pages of displays
  • [04:06:56] <brianpspmod> hmm maybe im looking in the wrong spot
  • [04:06:58] <ds2> get a pico ;)
  • [04:07:01] <ds2> I just checked
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  • [04:07:49] <brianpspmod> pico?
  • [04:08:01] <ds2> Pico DLP projector
  • [04:08:09] <ds2> it is smaller then a deck of cards
  • [04:08:37] <brianpspmod> what is it?
  • [04:08:57] <ds2> it is a tiny projector with a DVI interface
  • [04:09:36] <brianpspmod> lol i need a display with dvi
  • [04:10:35] <brianpspmod> and the pico is sooooo expensive
  • [04:11:16] <ds2> but they are so neat
  • [04:11:38] <brianpspmod> i know lol.
  • [04:12:33] <brianpspmod> oh dammit!
  • [04:12:45] <brianpspmod> why dont they make tiny dvi's
  • [04:12:46] <ds2> it does sound like you would have been better off with a EVM or Zoom (they come with LCDs)
  • [04:12:57] <brianpspmod> and why didnt beagle make it easy for lcd?
  • [04:13:18] <brianpspmod> expensiv
  • [04:13:23] <Crofton> becasue the evm, zoom and pandora exist with lcd's
  • [04:13:57] <brianpspmod> expensive!!!
  • [04:14:07] <Crofton> and the beagle isn't
  • [04:14:22] <Crofton> there is no such thing as a free lunch :)
  • [04:14:23] <brianpspmod> the beagle is so much cheaper
  • [04:14:34] <brianpspmod> i have an lcd screen too
  • [04:14:52] <brianpspmod> lol
  • [04:15:05] <brianpspmod> yeah there is
  • [04:17:21] <brianpspmod> cant even find a small dvi
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  • [04:23:10] <brianpspmod> help me look!
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  • [04:30:47] <brianpspmod> so hey. whats up with revc and lcd?
  • [04:30:57] <brianpspmod> i dont know for sure and i really need to know
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  • [05:34:52] <brianpspmod> hey
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  • [05:46:49] <zsircusr1> hey is revc coming with raw lcd support?
  • [05:47:05] <ds2> Yes.
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  • [05:58:12] <zsircusr1> so tft right?
  • [05:58:17] <zsircusr1> lcd is bso confusing to me ds2
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  • [06:07:33] <ds2> I believe the controller is flexible... TFT should work
  • [06:07:52] <ds2> the tricky part is getting the voltage right and setting up the timing in the frame buffer driver
  • [06:08:09] <zuh> felipec: re xf86-video-omap on fdo, not a bad idea at all. I'd just need to get an account there first...
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  • [06:27:05] <tomba> koen: it does. why?
  • [06:34:09] <zsircusr1> mmmmmmmmaaaaaarrrrryyyyyy
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  • [06:42:20] <zsircusr1> hey is y for rev c lcd stuff
  • [06:42:42] <zsircusr1> is it like a connecter where i can slide in that flexible ribbon cable on my screen?
  • [06:42:52] <zsircusr1> just wondering how its going to work
  • [06:44:30] <zsircusr1> ds2?
  • [06:48:55] <sakoman_> zsircusr1: rev C will not eliminate the need for you design a custom PCB in order to connect to a LCD
  • [06:48:56] <AV500> it is a pin header with the lcd signals
  • [06:49:24] <zsircusr1> oh man
  • [06:49:25] <sakoman_> zsircusr1: you are not going to get a cheap off the shelf solution
  • [06:49:59] <zsircusr1> well i was just going to use a psp screen. guess not lol
  • [06:50:37] <zsircusr1> the search for a small form factor dvi lcd screen contiues
  • [06:53:36] <AV500> zsircusr1: you can use the PSP screen I guess, but there is some "glue" needed
  • [06:53:56] <AV500> if these screen are popular and easy to get, I guess somebody will make this "glue" quickly
  • [06:54:45] <zsircusr1> glue?
  • [06:55:15] <zsircusr1> well i what if i put the connector on the header
  • [06:55:20] <zsircusr1> would that work?
  • [06:55:52] <AV500> glue = some little peice of hardware that connects to the pin header and your flat ribbon cable
  • [06:56:32] <zsircusr1> hmmm couldnt that just be the connector from the psp mobo?
  • [06:59:46] <AV500> yes, but you still need to connect that to the BB pin header
  • [07:00:37] <zsircusr1> thats fine. i could just solder it to the header right?
  • [07:01:30] <AV500> see: http://imagebin.ca/view/9lsvbI.html
  • [07:01:43] <AV500> I guess the LCD signals are the J4 and J5 on the top left
  • [07:02:39] <zsircusr1> so just place my lcd connector there?
  • [07:04:03] <AV500> your lcd connector is for a flat cable, so you need to wire it up with the matching signals on J4/J5
  • [07:04:17] <zsircusr1> oh thats it?
  • [07:04:22] <AV500> maybe
  • [07:04:32] <zsircusr1> i sure hope so lol
  • [07:04:33] <AV500> I cannot say as I have no idea what the PSP lcd is/does
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  • [07:04:52] <zsircusr1> its just an lcd screen
  • [07:05:01] <AV500> you also have to setup the LCD software-wise with the correct timings etc..
  • [07:05:07] <zsircusr1> it has a backliht ribbon too
  • [07:05:24] <zsircusr1> how do i do that?
  • [07:05:28] <zsircusr1> nvm ill figure it out
  • [07:05:38] <zsircusr1> have till march right?
  • [07:06:10] <zsircusr1> oh hey its a zif connector
  • [07:06:16] <AV500> yep and as I said, other might do the same
  • [07:06:54] <zsircusr1> other what?
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  • [07:07:07] <AV500> otherS
  • [07:07:51] <zsircusr1> oh lol
  • [07:08:00] <zsircusr1> so my dream is possible lol
  • [07:08:17] <zsircusr1> im making a dual screen psp. lower screen is psp. upper screen is beagle
  • [07:10:59] <zsircusr1> so revc is early march or late march?
  • [07:11:27] <AV500> no idea
  • [07:11:53] <zsircusr1> im getting really excited
  • [07:12:10] <kulve> http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard#Revision_C
  • [07:14:04] <zsircusr1> sweet!
  • [07:14:26] <zsircusr1> so i would probably just have to figure how to format the screen
  • [07:18:02] <zsircusr1> what do i need to do that?
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  • [07:19:32] <AV500> you need to find out the timing params for your LCD and programm the LCD output signals accordingly
  • [07:20:15] <zsircusr1> wow that sounds kinda difficult. is there like a wiki for that or an official term for that process so i can look it up?
  • [07:20:39] <AV500> I'd call it "hacking" in the original sense :-)
  • [07:21:29] <zsircusr1> lol
  • [07:21:45] <zsircusr1> where could i find info on the topic?
  • [07:22:41] <AV500> http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=87199
  • [07:24:24] <AV500> there is a link to the data sheet, so you should have all the needed info
  • [07:25:04] <zsircusr1> huh. well how do i make it on the beagle?
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  • [07:25:19] <zsircusr1> is it like a program that adjust the headers or something?
  • [07:25:34] <garren|work> morning all
  • [07:26:05] <zsircusr1> hey garren
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  • [07:28:25] <zsircusr1> so i have the data av500
  • [07:28:34] <zsircusr1> what am i supposed to do with it?
  • [07:29:21] <AV500> zsircusr1: read it?
  • [07:29:43] <AV500> zsircusr1: could it be that you dont not really know what you are up to?
  • [07:29:48] <zsircusr1> read the datasheet?
  • [07:29:53] <zsircusr1> i really dont lol
  • [07:30:15] <zsircusr1> i can figure out running the os and my program and figure out interfacing with the psp via psp
  • [07:30:17] <AV500> I suggest you wait until April until somebody wired up an LCD to the Rev C :-)
  • [07:30:26] <zsircusr1> but this lcd thing is outta my scope
  • [07:30:47] <AV500> hence my suggestion
  • [07:30:52] <zsircusr1> ill still wait to get a rev c board. just add my screen later i guess
  • [07:30:54] <zsircusr1> lol
  • [07:30:58] <zsircusr1> i feel really dumb
  • [07:31:04] <AV500> don't
  • [07:31:07] <zsircusr1> and i hate admitting i cant do something
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  • [07:31:34] <zsircusr1> i want to do it. ive had so many unbelievable ideas pouring out of this beagleboard/psp mod
  • [07:31:54] <AV500> how do you connect PSP to BB?
  • [07:32:50] <zsircusr1> usb
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  • [07:34:07] <zsircusr1> the beagleboard/hardrive/battery/second screen will be housed in a cover for the psp. flip it up to access second screen and stream data from hardrive to psp
  • [07:34:14] <zsircusr1> its an excelent mod
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  • [07:34:31] <zsircusr1> no one has been able to make a hardrive work with the psp.
  • [07:34:39] <zsircusr1> the beagleboard/hardrive/battery/second screen will be housed in a cover for the psp. flip it up to access second screen and stream data from hardrive to psp
  • [07:34:44] <zsircusr1> its an excelent mod
  • [07:35:05] <AV500> zsircusr1: I lost the last few lines, my X decided to crash :-(
  • [07:35:11] <zsircusr1> and you can take the bb attachment off the psp
  • [07:35:17] <zsircusr1> ok here
  • [07:35:20] <zsircusr1> the beagleboard/hardrive/battery/second screen will be housed in a cover for the psp. flip it up to access second screen and stream data from hardrive to psp
  • [07:35:27] <AV500> ok, I have that
  • [07:35:45] <zsircusr1> you can take the attachment off and connect a usb mouse and keyboard to use as a tiny laptop
  • [07:35:52] <AV500> stream over what? wifi
  • [07:35:54] <zsircusr1> thats why i want the lcd
  • [07:35:58] <zsircusr1> usb
  • [07:36:18] <zsircusr1> hardrive---beagle---psp
  • [07:36:31] <zsircusr1> beagle is middleman between two slaves
  • [07:36:43] <zsircusr1> why so interested?
  • [07:36:58] <AV500> steal your idea :)
  • [07:37:02] <AV500> har har
  • [07:37:07] <zsircusr1> what?
  • [07:37:10] <zsircusr1> cmon now
  • [07:37:21] <zsircusr1> you in the psp mod community?
  • [07:37:58] <zsircusr1> av?
  • [07:38:07] <zsircusr1> come on thats not cool
  • [07:39:13] <zsircusr1> av?
  • [07:39:29] <garren|work> why would you want to connect your psp to a harddrive?
  • [07:39:42] <zsircusr1> why not?
  • [07:40:01] <zsircusr1> mass storage for music/videos/homebrew/games
  • [07:40:13] <zsircusr1> it would become the ultimate media machine
  • [07:40:14] <zsircusr1> lol
  • [07:40:18] <zsircusr1> for me at least
  • [07:40:41] <kulve> isn't the resolution quite low on psp? (Not that it really matters on most videos..)
  • [07:41:02] <zsircusr1> i dunno. it works for me
  • [07:41:12] <zsircusr1> and now av500 is going to steal my idea
  • [07:41:21] <zsircusr1> i should never have come here
  • [07:41:22] <kulve> zsircusr1: he was only joking..
  • [07:41:39] <kulve> I'm hoping to get a device that can show dvd/digi-tv resolution without transcoding..
  • [07:41:39] <zsircusr1> ive been working so long on this project
  • [07:41:51] <zsircusr1> hunting sbc's
  • [07:41:55] <zsircusr1> learning stuff
  • [07:42:09] <kulve> zsircusr1: are you aware or the gumstix overo?
  • [07:42:17] <zsircusr1> yeah
  • [07:42:22] <zsircusr1> too expensive
  • [07:42:43] <zsircusr1> if i didnt need the expansion board it would be fuckin perfect!
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  • [07:43:06] <zsircusr1> i actually hang out in #gumstix a lot
  • [07:43:25] <zsircusr1> and ask my dumdass noob questions tthere too
  • [07:43:26] <kulve> yeah, they tend to need the expansion board (or one needs to make an expansion board for specifically one's needs)
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  • [07:43:54] <zsircusr1> i would make an expansion board if i knew how lol
  • [07:43:58] <AV500> zsircusr1: don't worry, I do not need to steal you idea :-)
  • [07:44:05] <zsircusr1> but making your own is probably expensive as hell
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  • [07:44:08] <AV500> my own HW does whatyou want quite nicely
  • [07:44:15] <zsircusr1> what?
  • [07:44:21] <zsircusr1> oh man
  • [07:44:25] <zsircusr1> what is it?
  • [07:44:38] <zsircusr1> if it is cheaper than beagle ill just do that
  • [07:44:52] <zsircusr1> please extrapolate av
  • [07:44:54] <zsircusr1> lol
  • [07:45:09] <AV500> Archos 5
  • [07:45:32] <zsircusr1> too too expensive lol
  • [07:45:40] <zsircusr1> archos has a usbhost?
  • [07:45:53] <zsircusr1> i was actually looking at that
  • [07:46:06] <zsircusr1> can i buy one diskless for a cheaper price?
  • [07:46:35] <zsircusr1> if it doesnt have a usb host port it wont work
  • [07:46:36] <garren|work> AV500: does the archos 5 run linux or have you guys modded it to run linux?
  • [07:46:52] <zsircusr1> av is too slow to write lol
  • [07:47:04] <zsircusr1> his attention is obviously divided lol
  • [07:47:18] <AV500> it runs linux
  • [07:47:38] <AV500> it even has an omap3
  • [07:48:06] <zsircusr1> but see
  • [07:48:22] <garren|work> awesome.. what windows manager does it use enlightenment or propriety?
  • [07:48:25] <zsircusr1> i was planning to offer a mod without the second screen that could be internalized
  • [07:48:43] <AV500> prop
  • [07:49:10] <zsircusr1> av: can i buy a diskless version?
  • [07:49:25] <AV500> no
  • [07:49:28] <garren|work> who developed the Archos, creative?
  • [07:49:39] <zsircusr1> dang
  • [07:49:41] <AV500> I stop talking to you now! :-)
  • [07:49:48] <zsircusr1> why?
  • [07:50:06] <AV500> sorry, this was for garren|work actually :-)
  • [07:50:13] <zsircusr1> lol
  • [07:50:17] <zsircusr1> hey av
  • [07:50:37] <zsircusr1> does the archos have a usb host port?
  • [07:50:41] <AV500> yep
  • [07:50:44] <garren|work> lol why? :-)
  • [07:50:59] <zsircusr1> oh man
  • [07:51:04] <zsircusr1> do you own a psp av?
  • [07:51:17] <AV500> garren|work: who is this "creative"? :-)
  • [07:51:38] <zsircusr1> garren: i believe archos is the company
  • [07:51:44] <garren|work> lol oops :-)
  • [07:51:47] <garren|work> sorry...
  • [07:51:52] <AV500> np :-)
  • [07:51:53] <zsircusr1> av: do you have a psp?
  • [07:52:24] <garren|work> Just did a quick google the archos 5 looks awesome... Do you work for Archos?
  • [07:52:24] <AV500> nope
  • [07:52:28] <AV500> yep
  • [07:52:34] <zsircusr1> oh
  • [07:52:39] <AV500> zsircusr1: im not a gamer
  • [07:52:39] <zsircusr1> you work for archos?
  • [07:52:49] <zsircusr1> oh ok just wondering
  • [07:52:52] <garren|work> Cool... You one of the developers?
  • [07:53:41] <AV500> somewhat
  • [07:54:16] <zsircusr1> hey av
  • [07:54:30] <zsircusr1> how would i create my own expansion board for the overo?
  • [07:54:49] <zsircusr1> i only want usb host
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  • [07:56:18] <AV500> overo? not my expertise
  • [07:56:25] <zsircusr1> oh ok
  • [07:58:42] <zsircusr1> anyone know?
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  • [08:11:18] <zsircusr1> how would i create my own expansion board for the overo?
  • [08:11:24] <zsircusr1> any of you guys know?
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  • [08:15:07] <kulve> it's trivial. Make board that fits to the screws in overo and put the connector to the correct place
  • [08:15:27] <kulve> but if you want the expansion board to have any functionality, then you need add something there..
  • [08:15:33] <koen> tomba: it's the missing symbol I get when trying to get powervr working with 2.6.28+DSS2
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  • [08:25:41] <zsircusr1> something just put on the shit i want?
  • [08:26:17] <davidwang> Hi,I am very interested in this board! any body can tell me which linux kernel is used in current version?
  • [08:26:54] <koen> davidwang: the board comes without a kernel
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  • [08:27:21] <koen> davidwang: if you use openembedded you can build 2.6.26, 26.27, 26.28 and 2.6.29rc2 for it if you wish
  • [08:27:33] <davidwang> I bought A DM355 EVM from digital spectrum, powered by monta vista
  • [08:27:59] <davidwang> Oh, this patch is for omap3530?
  • [08:29:44] <davidwang> Are those device driver for Omap3530 are Ok?
  • [08:30:39] <ds2> if you want, you can get MontaVista for the Beagle too ;)
  • [08:32:07] <davidwang> is the Monsta Vista free? I have test MV kernel on DM355 EVM, it is very simple, no power management, no nand file system,no any GUI is migrated!
  • [08:33:14] <davidwang> any body has done those job ?
  • [08:35:09] <davidwang> I am sorry I am a linux jackeroo! but I want to use Omap3530 in my new hardware design
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  • [08:41:38] <PhastPhrog> Morning all
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  • [08:41:53] <AV500> PhastPhrog: hi, did it build?
  • [08:42:12] <PhastPhrog> AV500: It did until ^C 'ed it
  • [08:42:27] <PhastPhrog> I had to pack up and go home, but it seemed to be running fine
  • [08:42:35] <PhastPhrog> How long should the full buildroot take?
  • [08:42:50] <AV500> depends largely on your CPU :-)
  • [08:43:21] <PhastPhrog> (The problem seemed to be by environment; G++ wasn't installed (altho it looked like it was), and there were a couple of little things missing; patch, makeinfo etc
  • [08:43:58] <PhastPhrog> Give me a rough estimate; Vmware on Centrino Duo - 2.3 Ghz :-)
  • [08:44:18] <garren|work> koen: I seemed to have a problem building linux-omap 2.6.28rc8 last night have you had a problem with it?
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  • [08:47:29] <kulve> tomba: pingpongping. How do I enable the rotate? :)
  • [08:48:21] <ds2> free...HEHEHE
  • [08:49:30] <AV500> PhastPhrog: like I have a database of that :-)
  • [08:49:35] <PhastPhrog> hahah
  • [08:49:47] <AV500> not longet than 45 min on a core duo under linux
  • [08:50:30] <PhastPhrog> Ok, it'll be a bit slower on under Vmware. Probably won't get to try it until tomorrow; I'll let you know how it goes tho
  • [08:51:44] <PhastPhrog> Can I boot it via the dual-partition SD card method?
  • [08:53:29] <PhastPhrog> http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/LinuxBootDiskFormat etc.
  • [08:58:18] <AV500> PhastPhrog: boot what?
  • [08:58:39] <PhastPhrog> the root fs
  • [08:58:45] <PhastPhrog> or did I miss something...
  • [08:59:25] <PhastPhrog> actually, that's a good question. What exactly does the make produce, when it's done?
  • [09:00:04] <AV500> it produces:
  • [09:00:08] <AV500> a) a toolchain
  • [09:00:10] <AV500> b) a kernel
  • [09:00:19] <AV500> b) a kernel with all the GPL drivers that we use
  • [09:00:27] <AV500> c) all the GPL userland stuff that we use
  • [09:00:32] <AV500> it does not:
  • [09:00:46] <AV500> a) make a root fs that is bootable
  • [09:00:55] <AV500> b) include all the non-gpl stuff
  • [09:01:11] <tomba> kulve: don't, the current vrfb branch in my tree is quite broken =) I have a much better working version here, but I need to clean it up before I can push it to public tree
  • [09:02:02] <PhastPhrog> Ah ok. My misunderstanding then. Is it possible to replace the Angstrom kernel with this one, or is not that simple?
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  • [09:03:45] <PhastPhrog> Damn, gotta run. I'm at this thing today: http://www.silica.com/events/seminars/seminar-overview/ti-omp-workshop.html
  • [09:03:52] <PhastPhrog> Maybe I'll learn something :-)
  • [09:04:08] <PhastPhrog> Thanks AV500. Catch you later
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  • [09:23:34] <RogerMonk|Overo_> morning all
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  • [09:26:32] <brianpspmod> hey
  • [09:26:35] <brianpspmod> anyone still her?
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  • [09:29:54] <AV500> no
  • [09:33:27] <kulve> tomba: hmm
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  • [09:41:46] <kulve> tomba: when can I test it? :)
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  • [09:45:40] <koen> hey RogerMonk|beagle
  • [09:45:47] <RogerMonk|beagle> key koen!
  • [09:46:07] <RogerMonk|beagle> demo'ing a table full of beagles and overos at ARM Seminar in Cambridge :)
  • [09:46:25] <koen> :)
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  • [10:01:01] <kulve> koen: "gst-launch audiotestsrc ! alsasink" works on evm with the patch that didn't apply (if you apply it by hand). I made those manually so my patch doesn't mention the original author (except in the .c file)
  • [10:01:23] <koen> nice
  • [10:01:28] <koen> 2.6.28 or 2.6.29rc?
  • [10:01:32] <kulve> 9
  • [10:01:52] <koen> nice
  • [10:01:59] <florian> good morning
  • [10:02:03] <koen> hey florian
  • [10:02:20] <koen> florian: you are a bad man, forgetting to update checksums.ini ;)
  • [10:02:39] <florian> koen: ah vpnc?
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  • [10:03:50] <koen> florian: yes :)
  • [10:04:28] * florian fixes in a few minutes
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  • [10:09:05] <koen> florian: http://cgit.openembedded.net/cgit.cgi?url=openembedded/commit/&id=0ecb99b2c6138926d80e6190009ff496dea352e5
  • [10:09:26] <florian> koen: thanks
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  • [10:35:10] <garren|work> koen: Did you guys manage to figure out the problem with Mplayer?
  • [10:35:44] <koen> I didn't
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  • [10:49:54] <tomba> kulve: I don't know =). too many things going on already
  • [10:51:15] <ldesnogu> koen: if you wanna have some other fun: http://openpandora.wordpress.com/2009/01/21/opengl/
  • [10:51:25] <kulve> tomba: ok
  • [10:51:30] <ldesnogu> I am starting to wonder what package they're talking about
  • [10:58:07] <GeneralAntilles> Silly Pandora people
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  • [11:14:00] <koen> ldesnogu: I already wondered about that
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  • [11:37:31] <ldesnogu> koen: the OpenGL 2 claim seems to have been corrected :-)
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  • [11:41:25] <rupeshgujare> ldesnogu: are u able to test OpenGLES on beagle ?
  • [11:42:23] <ldesnogu> rupeshgujare: I ran one or two tests a few months ago, that's all; but that was with a fixed kernel and filesystem
  • [11:42:42] <ldesnogu> which means I did nothing but copy the image to an SD card :)
  • [11:45:46] <rupeshgujare> ldesnogu:thanks. looking for latest fix for Open GL
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  • [12:05:59] <kapare> S-Video question: I have done bitbake linux-omap-2.6.28 and echo "tv e:1" > /sys/devices/platform/omapfb/displays
  • [12:07:30] <kapare> The tv switch from no signal to black screen... I was hoping to see Angstrom desktop?
  • [12:08:15] <kapare> I read post on the group I DSS documentation (but not understand all) what could I have missed? any ideas? thx
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  • [12:23:11] <jkridner> good morning all
  • [12:24:01] <garren|work> morning jkridner
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  • [12:26:23] <ScriptRipper> jkridner hi!
  • [12:26:35] <jkridner> hi ScriptRipper
  • [12:27:36] * jkridner is intrigued by http://source.mvista.com/git/?p=beagleboard-test.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/mvl-2.6.26/dev.ti-omap-beagleboard
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  • [12:33:00] <koen> hey jkridner
  • [12:33:06] <koen> jkridner: 2.6.26 is so last year :)
  • [12:34:05] <jkridner> :) 2.6.26 is a fine young vintage kernel though.
  • [12:34:43] <koen> jkridner: they also violate my copyright by taking patches I wrote and saying "Dale Farnsworth" wrote them
  • [12:35:29] <jkridner> koen: ah, there are times when I pull in patches and have difficulty assigning proper attribution.
  • [12:35:41] <jkridner> does git-ammend allow correction of that?
  • [12:36:27] <koen> it does, but it also messes up the history so people have to use --force liberally when pulling
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  • [12:37:18] <koen> jkridner: but it is still funny to see that mvista once again steals stuff from OE :)
  • [12:39:06] <koen> I would have expected that a company in the Sue S of A would be more carefull with licensing
  • [12:39:53] <likewise> hello all
  • [12:40:00] <koen> hey likewise
  • [12:40:27] <likewise> koen: we use open-source MV work too. It's just we do not make money on it yet :-)
  • [12:41:06] <koen> likewise: we do not claim we wrote it
  • [12:42:22] <koen> likewise: but since MV and canonical are blindly importing patches from OE we should consider adding easter eggs into the kernel :)
  • [12:43:09] <koen> printk("derived from openembedded");
  • [12:43:41] <koen> I did something like that for another project
  • [12:44:23] <koen> someone ripping of the patches (and selling products based on it) got really annoyed
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  • [12:45:58] <koen> e.g. http://cgit.openembedded.net/cgit.cgi?url=openembedded/tree/packages/pidgin/pidgin/purple-OE-branding.patch
  • [12:52:15] <adj_> nice :)
  • [12:52:47] <adj_> did you ever get any feedback on that issue?
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  • [12:54:48] <koen> adj_: yes, some people where surprised they weren't purple anymore
  • [12:55:08] <koen> adj_: but most people don't know where the 'purple' comes from either
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  • [13:03:22] <puppe> wow, got a beagle bord like one hour ago, and OE is up and running on it :)
  • [13:03:31] <eFfeM> gratz
  • [13:03:42] <puppe> thanks!
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  • [13:04:04] <puppe> I guess it helped i built OE yesterday :)
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  • [13:04:43] <eFfeM> ah cool you already build your own; I had expected that you just used the demo imsages
  • [13:05:20] <puppe> eFfeM: naa, but I guess I have an advantage. I do embedded developement as a living.
  • [13:05:37] <puppe> so when i saw the beagleboard i just had to get one
  • [13:05:40] <eFfeM> ah ok, that helps
  • [13:05:49] <eFfeM> do you also already have video ?
  • [13:06:06] <puppe> nope, need to get a HDMI->DVI cable later today
  • [13:06:14] <eFfeM> ah ok
  • [13:06:26] <eFfeM> i was planning to see if i could get that going
  • [13:06:29] <puppe> I'll get my wife to buy one on the way home
  • [13:07:35] <puppe> actually, I have one, but it's 10 meters :) I think I can wait a couple of hours for a shorter one
  • [13:07:51] <puppe> and the 10 m one is hooked up to my home theatre...
  • [13:07:59] <eFfeM> just keep it rolled up, i sometimes use an ethernet cable that is 15 m or so
  • [13:08:00] <eFfeM> ah ok
  • [13:08:54] <puppe> I'll spend the time looking into what's needed for X
  • [13:09:13] <puppe> I'm hoping to replace one of my mythtv frontends with a BB
  • [13:10:58] <eFfeM> ah, that was one of my projects ttoo
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  • [13:13:39] <puppe> cool
  • [13:14:27] <puppe> I don't know why, but the wife thinks the current frontend is too loud! :)
  • [13:15:36] <koen> me would like to use the beagle as mythfrontend as well
  • [13:16:01] <koen> it decodes various bits faster than the 2.4GHz celeron 'm using now
  • [13:17:12] <puppe> koen: so it's at least suitable for SD mpeg2? How about SD x264/xvid?
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  • [13:18:28] <puppe> from what I've read it's not really able to show 720p x264 videos (yet)?
  • [13:19:28] <eFfeM> not sure
  • [13:19:55] <eFfeM> i just managed to get gfx on my screen (mode: 720p60)
  • [13:20:37] <eFfeM> then stuck in a login screen, actually for now I think I might want to just start x then start the x apps from the console or through rsh
  • [13:21:00] * eFfeM dislikes multiple keyboards
  • [13:22:06] <eFfeM> btw are there issues wrt stability of usb in 2.6.27 even if I use PIO mode? apparently after a while devices that I plug in are not detected any more
  • [13:22:07] <koen> eFfeM: vnc should be running if you use the demo image
  • [13:22:20] <eFfeM> koen, nice!
  • [13:22:26] <koen> eFfeM: the same happens with DMA mode
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  • [13:22:42] <eFfeM> koen, is that hw or sw ?
  • [13:23:33] <koen> sw
  • [13:23:40] * eFfeM meant: is that a hw or sw issue (and if software is .29 also going to help here ?)
  • [13:24:10] <koen> .28 might be better
  • [13:24:23] <eFfeM> btw i got video in from my pwc webcam (that is: i got data on /dev/video0, but could not display it)
  • [13:24:52] <AV500> puppe: no 720 h264
  • [13:25:07] <koen> my beagle has been displaying the webcam picture using the XV driver for 48 hours straight now
  • [13:25:19] <koen> but it's using EHCI for that
  • [13:25:41] <eFfeM> nice, what app do you use to display?
  • [13:25:59] <puppe> AV500: is it just too slow, or is there a chance of it working later on?
  • [13:26:07] <AV500> too slow
  • [13:26:51] <puppe> AV500: ok, thanks for the info
  • [13:27:03] <eFfeM> puppe try to get h264 decodign to work on the dsp
  • [13:27:26] <koen> mplayer tv:// -tv driver=v4l2:width=320:height=240 -vo xv
  • [13:27:29] * eFfeM just made a frigid hub by connecting the upstream to a downstream port
  • [13:29:09] <puppe> eFfeM: I'd love to do some DSP coding, but I've never touched a DSP before
  • [13:29:37] <eFfeM> koen, one situation which causes the otg to hangup is if you temp drain too much power; you get a message, but even that other devs are not recognized
  • [13:30:55] <eFfeM> for me reboot is also not working
  • [13:31:53] <eFfeM> clarification: reboot as a cmd does not reboot; it does halt but not reboot; the port itself does work again
  • [13:33:45] <eFfeM> koen need to get up vnc before I can test the mplayer (just tried catting /dev/video0 to a file and play with mplayer on opensuse)
  • [13:34:14] <eFfeM> koen: btw you mentioned your sn9c1xx cam was not working
  • [13:34:23] <eFfeM> mine seems to produce data on /dev/video0
  • [13:34:29] <koen> eFfeM: opkg install angstrom-x11vnc-xinit
  • [13:35:00] <eFfeM> will do
  • [13:36:04] * eFfeM needs an additional hub in order not having to run a cat5 cable from one end of the living room to the other
  • [13:37:19] <eFfeM> probably reuse the switch part of an unused router, only switch i have is already in use
  • [13:37:39] * eFfeM 's home is networkwise a mess
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  • [13:38:56] <koen> http://www.nycresistor.com/2009/01/20/mp3-grenade/
  • [13:40:05] <eFfeM> koen, try to take that one in the plane with you if you fly to brasil
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  • [13:52:21] <kapare> kapare: Answering my own question: In arch/arm/plat-omap/dss/venc.c:venc_init() change int use_pal = 0;
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  • [13:53:26] <kapare> Another question if I have a NTSC TV and beagleboard is set using PAL should I see more then only a blackscreen?
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  • [13:55:40] <Strontium> I am confused about register byte ordering. If a register is 64 bits wide, and starts at address 0x100. And I want to write the LS 32 bits of it, do I write to 0x100 or 0x104 on the OMAP3530????
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  • [13:57:08] <jtagConnectionHo> hi everyone!
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  • [14:01:10] <jtagConnectionHo> has someone connected via jtag and used cc3.3? i can't get a connection!
  • [14:02:52] <NishanthMenon> jtagConnectionHo, did you check the ccs configuration?
  • [14:03:51] <NishanthMenon> jtagConnectionHo, I have used the ccs configuration with xds560m-usb to connect to beagle -> conection to arm though
  • [14:04:03] <NishanthMenon> mailing list had discussion on connecting with dsp also
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  • [14:16:14] <jtagConnectionHo> NishanthMenon, thank you very much, i check this
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  • [14:32:49] <jtagConnectionHo> NishanthMenon, i looked into this.. i use the XDS5510PP and try to connect to the C6400plis, but get the error Message: Error 0x80000240/-2082
  • [14:33:01] <jtagConnectionHo> Fatal Error during: Initialization, OCS, Device driver: Emulation Connection Loss Detected on Target CPU.
  • [14:33:54] <jtagConnectionHo> maybe here is also a reset active?!
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  • [14:44:18] <NishanthMenon> jtagConnectionHo, XDS510? http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardJTAG#XDS510_and_CCS has some details. i personally have not used it.. probably to do with 3.3v vs 1.8v something I guess
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  • [14:52:08] <atin_> ddompe: ping? :)
  • [14:52:19] <ddompe> atin_: pong
  • [14:52:26] <ddompe> good to see you
  • [14:52:40] <ddompe> I was able to recover my beagle last night from the brick status
  • [14:52:49] <atin_> ddompe: you got my email about the change to your page and the patches while you were away?
  • [14:53:07] <atin_> ddompe: whoops :)
  • [14:53:14] <ddompe> I don't recall a mail from change to my page
  • [14:53:28] <ddompe> I was looking to checkout the git branch were you were working
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  • [14:53:43] <ddompe> and work from there in getting this working well finally
  • [14:53:48] <atin_> ddompe: ok - I had edited your page after the patches.
  • [14:54:06] <ddompe> ok, let me check
  • [14:54:13] <atin_> ddompe: it should be all set - same place on sakoman.net - jsut a different branch
  • [14:54:19] <atin_> ddompe: your page has the directions ;)
  • [14:54:49] <ddompe> ok
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  • [14:54:57] <ddompe> let me check it out and start testing against that
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  • [15:21:22] <Crofton> I hereby call for davinci versus omap developer cage matches
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  • [15:22:16] <spanners> My Beagle's video output has gone wrong. I can only see red and yellow video. I can't tell if it's the Beagle or the HDMI adaptor...
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  • [15:36:25] <Strontium> Am I correct in saying the core speed of the processor on the beagle is set at 332Mhz by UBOOT?
  • [15:37:50] <Strontium> And if it is, why not 600Mhz which the processor is supposed to support???
  • [15:40:56] <AV500> maybe the kernel handles speed setting later?
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  • [15:41:54] <koen> Strontium: depending on the uboot it's 500Mhz or 600Mhz, and 600Mhz is considered 'overdrive' and gives you reduced lifespan
  • [15:44:03] <AV500> set the guv'nor to performance and it will use 600 only when needed :-)
  • [15:46:16] <Strontium> koen, Which Uboots? where do i get the source, the one I have (revB) only talks about 332Mhz ???
  • [15:49:10] <Strontium> BTW, I am looking at this, cause I am writing a new bootloader. Which will fir in the 60K space, but give the features of UBoot, targeted specifically to the OMAP3530. And Beagle in particular. So far I have most of the processor init fitting in arounf 900 bytes. I just need to add sdram and dpll initialisation. then i can run my stage 2 (which will fit in the remaining 58K)
  • [15:49:17] <koen> AV500: cpufreq for omap3 isn't upstream yet
  • [15:49:35] <koen> Strontium: the bootloader in the angstrom demo sets it to 600MHz
  • [15:49:46] <koen> AV500: worse, the WIP cpugreq driver only goes up to 550
  • [15:49:50] <Strontium> ok, ill look there
  • [15:50:10] <AV500> koen: check our source :-)
  • [15:52:39] <AV500> koen: so cpufreq is only in closed TI trees?
  • [15:53:52] <koen> no
  • [15:53:58] <koen> it's in kevins pm tree
  • [15:54:10] <koen> but the pm kernel is too unstable
  • [15:54:22] <koen> where 'unstable' read 'goes to sleep and doesn't wake up'
  • [15:56:01] * Crofton|irssi suspects the cpufreq code is not scaling CPU speed yet either ....
  • [15:56:12] <atin_> koen: hee :)
  • [15:57:33] <koen> AV500: http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/OE/beagleboard/beagle-cpufreq.png
  • [15:58:19] <AV500> so you have it then I see
  • [15:58:52] <koen> AV500: that a kernel from kevins pm branch, but it was tricky getting it to stay awake long enough for a screenshot
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  • [15:59:18] <AV500> I have the same problem here, hard for me to stay awake :-)
  • [15:59:59] * koen has been doing partial fractions all day
  • [16:00:21] <koen> 'Partialbruchzerlegung'
  • [16:00:22] * AV500 pats keon on the back
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  • [16:03:47] <Crofton|irssi> koen: I moved oe.org dns, and may have buggered one step
  • [16:03:55] <Crofton|irssi> so lists email may be broke for a bit
  • [16:04:20] <Crofton|irssi> it should get better though :)
  • [16:06:23] <sakoman_> koen: were you ever successful in playing a DVD?
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  • [16:14:06] <koen> sakoman_: yes
  • [16:14:23] <Crofton|irssi> koen: on the beagle?
  • [16:14:30] <koen> sakoman_: getting libdvdread to link to libdvdcss did the trick
  • [16:14:32] <koen> Crofton|irssi: yes
  • [16:15:28] <sakoman_> koen: I get a few seconds of audio, then the screen goes wonky :-(
  • [16:15:37] <koen> sakoman_: it is virtually realtime when using XV
  • [16:15:39] <sakoman_> then things freeze :-(
  • [16:15:46] <koen> sakoman_: ah, I'm still using an usb audio device
  • [16:16:12] <sakoman_> are things dependent on dss2?
  • [16:16:30] <sakoman_> I was using dss1 with vo=xv
  • [16:16:57] <koen> xv works with dss1 and dss2 in 16bit
  • [16:17:29] <koen> I suspect the dss2 32bit issue with xv is a memory allocation problem
  • [16:17:49] <kulve> koen: I'll try to make some tests with that on evm and beagle tomorrow and on friday
  • [16:18:02] <koen> thanks
  • [16:18:24] <sakoman_> koen: do you recall the command line you used? perhaps I am doing something stupid
  • [16:18:25] * koen has an exam on monday and isn't going to do proper testing on bits till then
  • [16:19:05] <koen> mplayer -vo xv dvd://<number> -ao alsa:device=hw=1,0
  • [16:19:25] <eFfeM> koen, was called away, so took a few hrs longer than expected, but did behave as a good citizen, so wrote http://www.elinux.org/BeagleBoardFAQ#Accessing_the_BeagleBoard_using_VNC
  • [16:19:25] <eFfeM> Feel free to review/update/wahtever
  • [16:20:11] <sakoman_> koen: very close to what I was using, except I had to specify my dvd-device on the command line since it didn't mount at /dev/dvd
  • [16:20:13] <koen> eFfeM: angstrom-x11vnc-xinit stats vnc automagically with X
  • [16:20:23] <koen> sakoman_: ln /dev/sr0 /dev/dvd -s
  • [16:20:31] <kulve> x2x is a nice too also
  • [16:20:54] <koen> eFfeM: so and it anounces it over bonjour, so decent clients will pick up the beagle automatically
  • [16:21:07] <koen> kulve: I broke my X install on my powerbook :(
  • [16:21:29] <sakoman_> koen: I'll have to investigate more :-(
  • [16:21:30] <eFfeM> koen, what/how:
  • [16:21:32] <eFfeM> root@beagleboard:~# angstrom-x11vnc-xinit
  • [16:21:32] <eFfeM> -sh: angstrom-x11vnc-xinit: not found
  • [16:21:43] <eFfeM> guess i am missing something
  • [16:21:54] <koen> eFfeM: 'killall Xorg' and then check the running processes
  • [16:21:57] * eFfeM heard about bonjour but did not really look into it
  • [16:23:41] <eFfeM> cool
  • [16:25:12] <eFfeM> koen can you recommend a vnc client ?
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  • [16:25:49] <koen> eFfeM: I use chicken of the vnc, but that's a OSX application
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  • [16:30:14] <eFfeM> koen that is indeed not going to help me much, will search myself for bonjour
  • [16:31:08] <tyhk1987> i had format my SD card ,and Setup SD uboot Partition ,Now I mount the SD card on Beagleboard what the screen will appear from theDVI ? is still the logo? but now there is no change
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  • [16:36:05] <tyhk1987> could someone tell me ?
  • [16:37:20] <tyhk1987> i just want to install (ARM EABI) Debian on the SD card
  • [16:37:39] <kulve> first the ROM code in omap3 loads the x-loader (MLO in the first vfat partition). The x-loader then knows how to load the u-boot from the vfat partition. And the u-boot then knows how to load the kernel from the vfat partition
  • [16:38:01] <kulve> the kernel will then moun the root fs (e.g. Debian) from the second partition, which is usually ext3
  • [16:38:31] <assem> koen: hi, could i bug you about an angstrom demo image error? someone mentioned your name
  • [16:39:21] <kulve> try pasting the error and see if somebody could answer. Koen is not the only one that knows about OE
  • [16:39:47] <assem> alright
  • [16:40:08] * AV500 wonders how koen is preparing for an exam AND on IRC.... ;-)
  • [16:41:11] <koen> AV500: Procrastination
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  • [16:41:41] * AV500 know everything about that :-)
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  • [16:46:23] <Strontium> I am using the latest angstrom demo image, and I am getting: omapfb omapfb: timeout waiting for FRAME DONE
  • [16:46:32] <Strontium> then the screen goes black. is this normal??
  • [16:48:29] <assem> using the latest BB angstrom demo images available from http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/ i'm getting Xorg errors and missing modules, Xorg log file here: http://www.pastebin.ca/1314847
  • [16:49:06] <assem> haha Strontium, that's the same error i'm getting
  • [16:49:16] <assem> nice timing...
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  • [16:50:03] <Strontium> obviously its normal then :)
  • [16:51:43] <kulve> tyhk1987: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard#BootRom
  • [16:52:05] <kulve> tyhk1987: and http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/LinuxBootDiskFormat
  • [16:53:40] <atin_> ddompe: there is a lot of usb working going on in u-boot these days . . . wonder how it affects us.
  • [16:55:35] <atin_> ddompe: of course, I haven't done a thing on beagle all last week and this...only now starting up emacs again ...
  • [16:56:17] <atin_> sakoman_: ping?
  • [16:56:55] <atin_> jkridner: ping? :)
  • [17:01:38] <kulve> tyhk1987: and note that it's very very strict how you create the first partition
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  • [17:04:02] <sakoman_> atin_: pong
  • [17:04:49] <atin_> hey - I was looking at the davinci USB changes in uboot
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  • [17:05:11] <atin_> sakoman_: ours aren't following the same style ...
  • [17:05:40] <tyhk1987> my first partion is fat32,50 MB
  • [17:05:40] <atin_> sakoman_: and I am not sure which is the correct way. the davinci is adding davinci specific stuff to the drivers/usb dir -
  • [17:06:25] <atin_> sakoman_: but a lot of the phy init etc is in the board file
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  • [17:06:52] <atin_> sakoman_: which seems wrong to me too. phy stuff should be in its own file that we call from independent code I think ..
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  • [17:07:22] <kulve> tyhk1987: also e.g. the cylinder count must match as the instructions shows
  • [17:07:42] <atin_> sakoman_: so musb.c files call the something like platform_phy_init() or something, and then we implement platform_phy_init() in a board/chip specific file
  • [17:07:49] <atin_> or just chip specific I guess
  • [17:08:35] <atin_> sakoman_: someone needs to coordinate the whole musb stuff...
  • [17:09:48] <sakoman_> atin_: where are the davinci changes? upstream?
  • [17:09:57] <sakoman_> I haven't been following them
  • [17:10:11] <atin_> they were just posted on the u-boot list as patches
  • [17:10:20] <atin_> thomas from TI did those too
  • [17:10:38] <atin_> not "just" - a little while ago
  • [17:10:51] <atin_> sakoman_: I happened to do a search for musb on the archives and found them
  • [17:11:04] <sakoman_> ah, well we should watch the fireworks to see what the u-boot powers-that-be say is the "right" way
  • [17:11:34] <atin_> sakoman_: I think the changes you pulled in were actually originally part of thomas' davinci code
  • [17:11:53] <sakoman_> Perhaps they will choose to remain silent like they have on the omap3 patches and then we will never know!
  • [17:12:05] <atin_> sakoman_: I think the powers that be have already said something along the lines of "we will not accept anything"
  • [17:12:23] <atin_> sakoman_: they responded to some omap3 stuff I saw.
  • [17:12:33] <spanners> Noone ever had their Beagle's video output mysteriously go pink?
  • [17:12:36] <atin_> sakoman_: basically, with a "add stuff to makeall" etc.
  • [17:13:07] <atin_> sakoman_: and then when dirk said "will it be good after that?", the answer was something along the lines of "we'll only accept mmc changes"
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  • [17:14:17] <sakoman_> not even that positive - it was more like "I will only comment on the mmc patch -- at some undetermined point in the future"
  • [17:14:17] <atin_> sakoman_: I figured I'd wait to hear from dirk what that was about :)
  • [17:14:54] <atin_> sakoman_: great . . . not good.
  • [17:15:01] <dirk2> atin_: what do you want to hear from me? ;)
  • [17:15:17] <atin_> sakoman_: I think they need more people that are considered the owners of u-boot by now
  • [17:15:21] <sakoman_> that the omap3 patches are accepted upstream :-)
  • [17:15:36] <atin_> sakoman_: the thing has become too big for the few they have with all the different processor and board configurations
  • [17:15:48] <sakoman_> dirk2: but we know you aren't going to say that ;-)
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  • [17:16:04] <dirk2> hope, hope
  • [17:16:29] <atin_> dirk2: what that whole mmc thing was about and whether that meant that they are ignoring the rest of our changes.
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  • [17:18:44] <dirk2> atin_: well, I can only guess. But I understand this U-Boot mmc mail as "I'd still like some comments from MMC maintainers regarding MMC part of OMAP3, that's all. Then I might consider applying the patch if merge window is open". But this interpretation of that mail might too optimistic
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  • [17:20:02] <atin_> so do we have a separate usb maintainers?
  • [17:20:03] <dirk2> atin_: At least I know that some minutes after that mail was sent to u-boot list, christophe asked at u-boot IRC MMC maintainer to have a look at MMC part of OMAP3 patch
  • [17:20:24] <dirk2> atin_: I talk about MMC, not USB
  • [17:20:30] <atin_> and other relevant parts too?
  • [17:21:01] <atin_> so we can maybe get our stuff in to the ones who will actually make the decisions as opposed to the top level people>
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  • [17:21:42] <dirk2> atin_: As I understand it there are u-boot subsystem maintainers (called custodians) for all parts in http://git.denx.de/?p=u-boot.git;a=forks
  • [17:22:22] <atin_> dirk2: ah yes, I knew that Remy Bohmer was looking out all the usb stuff
  • [17:22:34] <atin_> dirk2: and had added the musb code to their testing branch
  • [17:24:29] <dirk2> back to MMC: at IRC christophe asked MMC maintainer if MMC maintainer like to have us convert the OMAP3 MMC stuff to the "new u-boot MMC framework"
  • [17:25:18] <dirk2> the answer was "new u-boot MMC framework is under heavy re-design and it is not in mainline yet, so no chance for OMAP3 to switch to this now"
  • [17:26:35] <atin_> dirk2: which most probably means that it doesn't get accepted either since we would have to switch to the new mmc framework once it is stable.
  • [17:26:45] <atin_> dirk2: unless we get grandfathered in.
  • [17:26:57] <dirk2> so for the moment my understanding the answer to the cyptic MMC mail from christophe is "OMAP3 MMC don't need to be touched at the moment"
  • [17:27:17] <atin_> dirk2: does not mean he accepts it tho :)
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  • [17:28:38] <dirk2> atin_: yes, you are right, this doesn't mean he accepts it. But (a) I have still hope and (b) as I understand it there is wolfgang, too. Maybe you noticed that we did the v6 OMAP3 patch set against mainline and not against u-boot-arm git
  • [17:29:15] <atin_> dirk2: right.
  • [17:30:25] <atin_> dirk2: I am looking just cloning the usb branch, will see what the testing branch looks like and see if maybe we can at least get consistent with that.
  • [17:31:18] <dirk2> atin_: sorry, I was lost somewhere: does omap3-dev-usb branch works now?
  • [17:31:48] <atin_> dirk2: it does show the beagle as a usb gadget when in uboot
  • [17:32:07] <atin_> dirk2: the host side isn't working. that's where I saw that we were inconsistent with the TI stuff
  • [17:32:21] <atin_> dirk2: since I wanted to do the same sort of PHY init that the gadget side does.
  • [17:33:43] <atin_> dirk2: tho I had a slight gotcha, did have to setenv stdout serial.usbtty; and stdin serial,usbtty, stderr serial,usbtty before it works.
  • [17:33:52] <atin_> I hadn't realized I needed to do that :)
  • [17:34:10] <atin_> its the usbtty that primes the pump so to speak, at least how I read it.
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  • [17:35:05] <atin_> dirk2: credit to ddompe for this, I only did the ldo init code which I got from linux.
  • [17:38:34] <atin_> dirk2: http://pastebin.com/m77fa145d - output from lsusb -v after pluggin in the beagle
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  • [17:40:19] <atin_> dirk2: ddompe is doing more work in this to make it work completely.
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  • [17:56:14] <Strontium> So where do i get the latest uboot code for beagle? Is it in http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard#U-Boot or http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/downloads/list or somewhere else?
  • [17:58:37] <atin_> if you mean the source, http://www.sakoman.net/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=u-boot-omap3.git;a=summary
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  • [17:59:18] <atin_> and for some reason, I could never get the google downloads page to work right for me, I've always built my own.
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  • [17:59:45] <atin_> Strontium: tho I think I only tried the very first day I got the beagle, after that I've been building my own
  • [18:01:14] <atin_> Strontium: so it could have been user error then.
  • [18:01:47] <atin_> Strontium: almost the very first thing I did was get openembedded downloaded and have been building my own stuff ever since . . .
  • [18:03:52] <Strontium> atin_ i am dl'ing oe now. But i was looking for the latest u-boot code (is it in oe??)
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  • [18:09:43] <sakoman_> koen, Crofton|irssi: latest checkins for alsa-utils result in broken build :-(
  • [18:09:53] <Crofton|irssi> i know
  • [18:09:57] <sakoman_> see to be two issues -
  • [18:10:05] <Crofton|irssi> quick hack, install xmlto on build machine
  • [18:10:09] <sakoman_> they introduce a dependency on xmlto
  • [18:10:14] <Crofton|irssi> and?
  • [18:10:21] <Crofton|irssi> xmlto fixed it for me?
  • [18:10:33] <sakoman_> after that I get a: xsl:import : unable to load http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/manpages/docbook.xsl
  • [18:10:36] <Crofton|irssi> I need to see if we can configure it without docs
  • [18:11:06] <sakoman_> the link does exist, so I am not sure what the issue is
  • [18:11:15] <sakoman_> but I get the same error on two machines
  • [18:11:22] <Crofton|irssi> heh, that is what zecke warned off
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  • [18:11:35] <Crofton|irssi> let me see if I can turn off docs
  • [18:11:39] <Crofton|irssi> bbiab
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  • [18:21:56] <Crofton|irssi> sakoman_: yum install xmlto is resolving the issue for me
  • [18:22:09] <Crofton|irssi> I did break my box at home to remind me to look into this further
  • [18:23:36] <sakoman_> Crofton|irssi: sadly, that doesn't do it here on either of my machines
  • [18:24:13] <sakoman_> I get the "xsl:import : unable to load" error on both
  • [18:25:22] <Crofton|irssi> can you get the url manually?
  • [18:25:47] <Crofton|irssi> maybe some form of debian/fedora difference
  • [18:26:36] <sakoman_> yeah, I can get the link manually :-(
  • [18:27:14] <Crofton|irssi> hmmm
  • [18:27:19] <Crofton|irssi> stupid alsa-utils
  • [18:27:37] <Crofton|irssi> it is broonies fault
  • [18:27:46] <Crofton|irssi> but I can't find him in #oe
  • [18:29:22] <sakoman_> Crofton|irssi: he doesn't appear to be on #alsa either
  • [18:30:10] <Crofton|irssi> trying with --disable-nls now
  • [18:30:47] <Crofton|irssi> crap, someone commited the lemmings clone recipe
  • [18:30:59] <Crofton|irssi> now I can waste my life playing lemmings again
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  • [18:34:25] <Crofton|irssi> sakoman_: I would def_pref -1 alsa 1.0.18 for now
  • [18:34:42] <eFfeM> what is the best way to configre/enable my usb dongle; if i reboot the module gets loaded, but the if is not listed in ifconfig
  • [18:35:39] <eFfeM> unplugging/replugging works but is not too convenient
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  • [18:40:47] <eFfeM> if i do an ifdown eth0;ifup eth0 it also works
  • [18:41:03] <atin_> Strontium: the latest U-Boot code gets downloaded by OE. But you can get it directly by cloning git://www.sakoman.net/git/u-boot-omap3.git
  • [18:41:14] * eFfeM is puzzled why iniitially the if is up but not seen by ifconfig
  • [18:41:43] <koen> hmmm
  • [18:42:00] <koen> alsa-utils .18 is broken
  • [18:42:20] <Crofton|irssi> only for some .....
  • [18:42:25] <Crofton|irssi> I can hack around it
  • [18:42:39] <Crofton|irssi> I did re-break the hom machine so I can look for a better fix
  • [18:42:39] * koen def prefs it
  • [18:42:44] <koen> man
  • [18:42:57] <koen> why do some people use 'the elegance of git-am' for committing crap?
  • [18:43:02] <Crofton|irssi> yeah, will there be issues with the other bits of alsa
  • [18:43:11] <koen> insert 'as excuse' in the above
  • [18:44:07] * koen wonders why asking people to clean up their patches is so hard to do
  • [18:45:49] <koen> and of course no checksum for it...
  • [18:45:52] <prpplague> koen: hard for you tell someone to clean up their patch or hard for the people to actually clean up their patch?
  • [18:47:44] <koen> it's not hard for me
  • [18:48:08] <koen> but some people apply any patch that hits their mailbox
  • [18:48:39] <koen> if it's small I'll fix up a patch my self, if it's bigger I ask the submitter to clean it up and give him hints how to do that
  • [18:50:15] <Strontium> I followed all the instructions on http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardAndOpenEmbeddedGit and when I run bitbake i get: NOTE: <type 'exceptions.IndexError'>:list index out of range while evaluating:
  • [18:50:19] <Strontium> and it craps out
  • [18:50:23] <Strontium> any ideas?
  • [18:51:21] <Strontium> hmm, it starts with ERROR: no files to build.
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  • [18:53:06] <atin_> hmm, you really did follow all the steps?
  • [18:53:45] <atin_> Strontium: make sure you local.conf and profile.sh are as specified
  • [18:54:15] <atin_> Strontium: and that you sourced profile.sh
  • [18:54:42] <atin_> Strontium: also, what target did you try to bitbake?
  • [18:54:57] <eFfeM> Strontium: also run bitbake with an argumet e.g. bitbake base_image
  • [18:55:02] <Strontium> console-image
  • [18:55:06] <atin_> Strontium: if you just want u-boot, you can do bitbake u-boot
  • [18:55:07] <puppe> does anyone know why I have to 'mknod /dev/fb1 c 29 1' on every reboot? Why isn't udev creating it automatically? I'm using OE from git.
  • [18:55:11] <Strontium> bitbake console-image
  • [18:55:53] <atin_> Strontium: that sounds obviously wrong since you just downloaded the thing. confirm your local.conf and profile.sh are as expected.
  • [18:56:08] <Strontium> doing that now
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  • [18:58:34] <puppe> ok, removing /etc/dev.tar fixed it, found a post by koen on the list, thanks koen!
  • [18:59:06] <eFfeM> sometimes by beagle is very unresponsive, this is with the 2.6.27 image do others have this as well
  • [18:59:35] <eFfeM> e.g. ls takes several secons and sometimes even pressing enter takes a few seconds before I get a new prompt
  • [18:59:51] <eFfeM> is it being swapped out?
  • [18:59:58] <puppe> do you have swap?
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  • [19:00:47] <eFfeM> don't think so, system seems to hang again
  • [19:01:18] <atin_> is th is on boot?
  • [19:01:32] <atin_> I know that if you boot angstrom for the first time, it takes a while.
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  • [19:01:39] <puppe> eFfeM: anything using cpu? checked with top?
  • [19:01:57] <eFfeM> well serial is then dead, might try to ssh into it
  • [19:02:02] <eFfeM> later (grab a coffe noow)
  • [19:02:13] <atin_> eFfeM: if you have a monitor connected, it takes a while to do its initial setup.
  • [19:02:21] <denix0> jkridner: ping
  • [19:02:27] <Strontium> hmm, in the wiki, it shows things like: OE_HOME=\$HOME/oe
  • [19:02:38] <eFfeM> no this happens if it is already running for a while
  • [19:02:40] <atin_> Strontium: be back a sec.
  • [19:02:42] <Strontium> I had OE_HOME=$HOME/oe
  • [19:03:05] <puppe> Strontium: that looks correct to me
  • [19:03:16] <puppe> what does it say if you 'echo $OE_HOME' ?
  • [19:03:19] <Strontium> not \$ only $ When i change it to \$ it is even worse (stuffs up the environment big time)
  • [19:03:32] <atin_> Strontium: that looks fine - mine has OE_HOME="${HOME}/oe"
  • [19:04:02] <Strontium> so its just $ not \$
  • [19:05:48] <koen> cbrake: did you see the pxa2xx vs omap3 on http://www.rasterman.com/ yet?
  • [19:06:19] <Strontium> my $OE_HOME is /media/development/Software/Beagle/oe
  • [19:08:33] <atin_> Strontium: that seems fine.
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  • [19:13:14] <Strontium> I assume BBFILES expands to a list of files that bitbake processes? cuase if I echo it i get a whole bunch of stuff
  • [19:14:11] <Strontium> I though my path might have been too bog, so i contracted it a little, no luck though.
  • [19:14:26] <Strontium> My files look like the ones in the wiki.
  • [19:18:09] <Strontium> My files are at: http://www.pastebin.ca/1315059 if anyone can see anything wrong?
  • [19:18:16] <atin_> hmm. you are able to echo $BBFILES?
  • [19:18:22] <Strontium> yes
  • [19:18:27] <Strontium> its a huge list of files
  • [19:18:35] <atin_> ok
  • [19:18:44] <Strontium> and there was stuff stuck in the tmpdir path as well
  • [19:20:12] <atin_> you have two processors?
  • [19:20:44] <Strontium> dual core CPU
  • [19:20:50] <atin_> ok
  • [19:21:00] <atin_> it all looks ok ...
  • [19:21:07] <atin_> I have slight differences.
  • [19:21:12] <Strontium> it doesn't like me :(
  • [19:21:41] <atin_> but I also use overlays so some of it is that.
  • [19:21:50] <atin_> what is the exact message you are seeing, pastebin that.
  • [19:22:08] <Strontium> i just did, its now at the end of my original paste
  • [19:22:48] <atin_> hmm, I don't see it.
  • [19:23:09] <Strontium> sorry: http://www.pastebin.ca/1315061
  • [19:23:19] <atin_> yes, got it :)
  • [19:24:13] <atin_> Strontium: something is way wrong. Parsing should not be all zeros.
  • [19:24:57] <Strontium> i know, it doesn't look right. I followed all the instructions
  • [19:25:17] <atin_> Strontium: let me look a little closer at what you have in that pastebin :)
  • [19:26:51] <atin_> Strontium: oh. put the BBFILES in the local.conf
  • [19:27:28] <Strontium> done
  • [19:27:39] <atin_> any change?
  • [19:27:47] <Strontium> the wiki says to comment it out?? but that has fixed it so far.
  • [19:28:01] <atin_> Strontium: yeah, I am not sure what the wiki is trying to say there.
  • [19:28:14] <atin_> BBFILES is a bitbake variable I think.
  • [19:28:24] <atin_> so it would need to be in a conf file.
  • [19:28:29] <atin_> at least that is the way I have it.
  • [19:28:52] <atin_> Most probably when I did it first before my changes, I ignored the comments :)
  • [19:29:02] <atin_> and just took the stuff in the highlighted blocks :)
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  • [19:33:15] <Strontium> I just killed the strange message to comment it out from the wiki so others dont fall for the same mistake. That will teach me for reading the instruction too closely.
  • [19:33:31] <Strontium> thanks for the help atin_ appreciated.
  • [19:33:57] <atin_> Strontium: sure.
  • [19:34:27] <atin_> Strontium: I actually wrote this http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardOpenEmbeddedDevelopment to reflect what I actually use.
  • [19:34:58] <koen> Crofton|irssi: http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/OE/0001-base.bbclass-only-error-out-on-missing-checksums-wh.patch
  • [19:35:16] <Strontium> ok, i will go through that. thanks
  • [19:36:01] <Crofton|irssi> koen: interesting
  • [19:36:41] <Crofton|irssi> I like the basic principle, making life easier for some use cases
  • [19:36:55] <atin_> Strontium: its only useful when you're building your own version source code as opposed to what oe downloads
  • [19:37:17] <koen> Crofton|irssi: I'm going to turn on strict checking in the stable branch :)
  • [19:37:27] <Strontium> atin_ which i intend to do at some point. Need to get past my boot loader first.
  • [19:37:39] <Crofton|irssi> but that will shift the checksum load to people not using ALLOW_INSECURE
  • [19:37:47] * koen needs a tissue to stop his eyes from bleeding
  • [19:38:05] <Crofton|irssi> since we suposedly review additions to the stable branch, nothign should sneak in without a checksum
  • [19:38:24] <koen> Crofton|irssi: the main point is to detect changed sums :)
  • [19:38:26] <atin_> Strontium: though now I've just started hacking the run.do_compile.* files that are generated and then build standalone in my copy of the source :)
  • [19:38:39] <koen> Crofton|irssi: but I'd like an extra level of configurability
  • [19:38:48] <Crofton|irssi> yeah
  • [19:38:57] <Crofton|irssi> definitely pass it around for comment
  • [19:39:08] <Crofton|irssi> I need to go crash a beagle running dsplink
  • [19:39:31] <Crofton|irssi> broonie will look at alsa-utils tomorrow
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  • [19:41:41] <Crofton|irssi> lunch
  • [19:41:59] <eFfeM> koen, still struggling with vnc; i have the client and can display an xterm in it, but mplayer etc does not give video, apparently i do not have color (although the client says it has), do you by any chance have an idea?
  • [19:42:07] <eFfeM> Crofton|irssi: enjoy
  • [19:42:49] <koen> eFfeM: yes, XV writes to the image plane, so X doesn't really know about it
  • [19:42:59] <koen> eFfeM: so you'd get a black rectagle
  • [19:43:02] <Crofton|irssi> koen: is roger monk on the beagle list?
  • [19:43:11] <Crofton|irssi> I think I can blow up dsplink .....
  • [19:43:21] <koen> Crofton|irssi: he is, but he's currently at the arm thing in cambridge
  • [19:43:25] <Crofton|irssi> ok
  • [19:43:37] <Crofton|irssi> If this is repeatable, I'll send an email
  • [19:43:37] <koen> try his @ti address
  • [19:43:48] <Crofton|irssi> ok
  • [19:43:51] <Crofton|irssi> lunch really
  • [19:45:59] <atin_> cambridge?
  • [19:46:18] <atin_> what arm thing in cambridge? cambridge UK or MA :)
  • [19:46:19] <koen> cambridge, uk
  • [19:46:21] <atin_> ah
  • [19:46:28] <atin_> ok...nevermind then :)
  • [19:49:49] <eFfeM> anyone an idea why my usb ethernet dongle does not come up after a reboot; ifup eth0 says it is up but ifconfig does not list it and it does not work; ifdown eth0;ifup eth0 makes it working but i would like to do that automatically
  • [19:50:40] <atin_> eFfeM: what does dmesg show you about usb? or eth0
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  • [19:52:09] <eFfeM> atin_: pegasus 1-1.1:1.0: setup Pegasus II specific registers
  • [19:52:09] <eFfeM> pegasus 1-1.1:1.0: eth0, Philips USB 10/100 Ethernet, 00:30:50:01:f0:c0
  • [19:52:14] <eFfeM> so eth0
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  • [19:52:29] <atin_> eFfeM: seems like it finds it ...
  • [19:52:30] <eFfeM> sry this is after the ifdown/ifup
  • [19:53:07] <eFfeM> i think, need tor eboot, because log has no timing
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  • [19:53:54] <eFfeM> koen, mplayer + vnc give me also a black rectangle if I play an avi file
  • [19:54:55] <eFfeM> atin,retried it indeed finds it
  • [19:55:21] <eFfeM> root@beagleboard:~# ifup eth0
  • [19:55:21] <eFfeM> ifup: interface eth0 already configured
  • [19:55:33] <eFfeM> and ifconfig does not give it an address
  • [19:55:50] <eFfeM> meant to say: ifconfig does not list eth0
  • [19:55:52] <atin_> eFfeM: hmm ...
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  • [19:56:11] <koen> eFfeM: right, but check the screen attached to the beagle :)
  • [19:56:28] <eFfeM> if I insert the dongle after booting things work fine, if I unplug/replug it works
  • [19:56:38] <eFfeM> koen, will do
  • [19:58:02] <eFfeM> koen, it plays the movie! thought vnc would show that too then
  • [19:58:58] <koen> no, it's using hardware for colour conversion
  • [19:59:28] <eFfeM> ah ok; didn't know that, normally vnc always gave me color
  • [20:00:47] <maelcum> i've found a kernel configuration with dma for the usb port that doesn't crash or lose the usb port.
  • [20:01:30] <maelcum> now i wonder if it's any particular patch, 2.6.28-omap1 (instead of 2.6.27-omap1) or the fact that gadget mode is disabled that made it work.
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  • [20:08:17] <eFfeM> atin_: found it: apparently there is something wrong in the load order; it first found eth0 then loaded the module; if I add the module to /etc/modules everything works nicely
  • [20:08:57] <atin_> eFfeM: ah.
  • [20:09:03] <atin_> atin_: weird tho ..
  • [20:09:21] <eFfeM> yup, no idea what is happening
  • [20:10:24] <eFfeM> i now have these four lines in my log:
  • [20:10:25] <eFfeM> pegasus: v0.6.14 (2006/09/27), Pegasus/Pegasus II USB Ethernet driver
  • [20:10:26] <eFfeM> pegasus 1-1.1:1.0: setup Pegasus II specific registers
  • [20:10:26] <eFfeM> pegasus 1-1.1:1.0: eth0, Philips USB 10/100 Ethernet, 00:30:50:01:f0:c0
  • [20:10:26] <eFfeM> usbcore: registered new interface driver pegasus
  • [20:10:36] <eFfeM> i think i did no thave the 1st one earlier
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  • [20:11:00] <Strontium> Are there many boards in the wild using ES1.0 rev chips?
  • [20:13:55] <koen> Strontium: if you find one, kill it with fire
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  • [20:15:39] <eFfeM> koen, lol pcb's do not burn that well
  • [20:16:22] <maelcum> that's probably the work of flame retardants. epoxy does burn.
  • [20:16:36] <Strontium> so i can ignor code paths that say stuff like "for ES1.0 we need to write the wrong value into a register before we write the correct one"
  • [20:16:37] <eFfeM> true
  • [20:17:16] <eFfeM> just donate it to braniac, they'll find a good way to destroy it :-)
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  • [20:18:19] <koen> Strontium: yes, people using ES1.0 can fix it themselves :)
  • [20:18:43] * eFfeM wonders why dealextreme.com always has all kinds of junk but never the thing he needs (or I am just bad in finding things)
  • [20:19:10] <eFfeM> looking for a way to share usb kbd+mouse between pc and beagle
  • [20:19:32] <koen> eFfeM: mediamarkt has an usb switch
  • [20:19:40] <koen> eFfeM: it's ???30 or so
  • [20:19:44] <eFfeM> ah, ok
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  • [20:21:26] <Strontium> thanks koen, saves me a bunch of headaches.
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  • [20:49:06] <jkridner|work> eFfeM: for keyboard sharing, I find that synergy works well.
  • [20:49:15] <jkridner|work> (and mouse)
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  • [20:57:20] <Beagle1> Hello...I am trying to compile the uboot for beagleboard...I gitted using git clone git://gitorious.org/x-load-omap3/mainline.git
  • [20:57:49] <Beagle1> And then I tried to edit include/configs/omap3530beagle.h
  • [20:58:11] <Beagle1> However I could not find the file omap3530beagle.h
  • [20:58:54] <Beagle1> Does any1 the right repository for uboot for beagleboard?
  • [20:59:51] <atin_> you are trying to build u-boot or x-load?
  • [21:00:21] <atin_> u-boot is http://www.sakoman.net/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=u-boot-omap3.git;a=summary
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  • [21:05:12] <eFfeM> jkridner|work: thanks for the suggestion
  • [21:06:51] <eFfeM> jkridner|work: you use it with a linux pc as primary server and beagle as client?
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  • [21:07:47] <eFfeM> synergy is not in the opensuse feed so need to run my own i guess; but i happily noticed it is in oe
  • [21:11:07] <Beagle1> atin_ : yes I got it from that webiste...however it has no omap3530beagle.h file
  • [21:12:16] <eFfeM> calling it a day, cya
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  • [21:13:21] <Beagle1> Can any1 help me build uboot for beagleboard...I have been following the instructions from http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/BeagleSoftCompile
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  • [21:13:46] <Beagle1> and I got the source form http://www.sakoman.net/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=u-boot-omap3.git;a=summary
  • [21:14:12] <Beagle1> Help plzzzzzzz
  • [21:19:53] <DJWillis> Beagle1: I assume you have a working cross compiler all setup, what problems are you having?
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  • [21:37:25] <ChrisEilbeck> hey guys! I know you can get tv output from a beagleboard but how easy is it to hook up a composite or s-video camera rather than a USB webcam?
  • [21:39:35] <DJWillis> ChrisEilbeck: you need a way to get video in (say via a USB vid capture device with mUSB in host mode). Not sure if it has been tried, in theory it would be easy enough.
  • [21:41:09] <ChrisEilbeck> I'm trying to avoid USB if I can. I may end up not using a beagle as such and building some equivalent with a video-in interface.
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  • [21:41:44] <DJWillis> ChrisEilbeck: there are better choices if you want to just get video in I would guess.
  • [21:41:57] <ferret_0567> is there any way you could turn a beagle board into a full blown PDA?
  • [21:42:10] <Beagle1> DJWillis : I am unable to see a include/configs/omap3530beagle.h in the source code from http://www.sakoman.net/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=u-boot-omap3.git;a=summary
  • [21:42:21] <ChrisEilbeck> better choices as in better development platforms than the beagle?
  • [21:42:26] <ferret_0567> with touchscreen, USB, wireless, bluetooth, and more?
  • [21:43:05] <DJWillis> ChrisEilbeck: depends what you want to do, I was thinking better starting points for that purpose.
  • [21:43:45] <GeneralAntilles> ferret_0567, sure, but it'll be big.
  • [21:44:01] <GeneralAntilles> ferret_0567, better off waiting for the Pandora or Nokia's next Maemo tablet.
  • [21:44:43] <ferret_0567> GeneralAntilles: where is info on Nokia's next Maemo tablet?
  • [21:44:54] <Beagle1> Does any1 have a clue about building uboot???
  • [21:45:23] <GeneralAntilles> ferret_0567, http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS9093153240.html and http://maemo.org/community/council/community_highlights_for_december_2008-part_i-january_2009-part_ii/
  • [21:45:31] <DJWillis> Beagle1: not on the master branch are you (i.e. the sync with mainline one). No OMAP3 in there IIRC. Switch to one of the OMAP3 branches and you should be fine.
  • [21:47:26] <jkridner|work> hi Beagle1. On a conf call now, but will read here in a few minutes.
  • [21:48:25] <adj_> Beagle1: follow the instrctions at elinux wiki about building the u-boot
  • [21:48:39] <ferret_0567> what is the default clock speed of the ARM CPU in the Beagle Board?\
  • [21:50:07] <ferret_0567> 510MHz?
  • [21:51:01] <ldesnogu_> ferret_0567, 500 MHz or 600 MHz depending on u-boot version according to koen
  • [21:51:01] <sakoman_> Beagle1: you want the omap3-dev branch
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  • [21:53:15] <Crofton|irssi> ok, I can break dsplink :)
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  • [22:32:09] <Beagle1> sakoman: Can u give me the link to omap3-dev branch ?
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  • [22:36:00] <like2wise> koen: ping
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  • [22:43:34] <sakoman_> Beagle: you posted the correct link above!
  • [22:43:46] <sakoman_> just use the omap3-dev branch
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  • [22:45:11] * Crofton|irssi is an idiot, I forgot the mem=10M line
  • [22:45:23] <Crofton|irssi> I am hoping the dsplink samples run in under 10m
  • [22:45:30] <sakoman_> Beagle1: just follow the instructions here: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard#U-Boot
  • [22:46:02] <sakoman_> Crofton|irssi: Once you figure it out you can teach me ;-)
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  • [22:57:47] <jkridner|work> Beagle1: did that work for you?
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  • [23:22:24] <recalcati> Hi all, tomorrow I'd like to prepare the best demo with beagleboard for my boss: opengl, gst-streamer 720p mpeg4, other. Actually I have Angstrom, but omapfbplay is not perfect with 720p and has no sound. What is the quickest way to proceed?
  • [23:23:32] <recalcati> I'd like a demo with mouse and keyboard, not using minicom.
  • [23:25:33] <recalcati> jkridner|wotk: any suggestion? I'd like to show to best functionalities to my bosses.
  • [23:26:25] <mru> if omapfbplay can't play the file as you want it, neither will gstreamer
  • [23:26:56] <mru> it's impossible to make a libavcodec based player with less overhead than omapfbplay
  • [23:27:20] <mru> and since it has no sound it gets away with slowing the frame rate slightly when it can't keep up
  • [23:28:01] <recalcati> mru: I read about omapfbplay decoding a 720p, but I can't, I'm using omapfbplay of a week ago, inside Koen demo
  • [23:28:27] <mru> what video are you using?
  • [23:28:39] <recalcati> mru: omapfbplay /media/sda2/Stardust_SD.mp4
  • [23:28:48] <recalcati> from usb key
  • [23:28:56] <mru> is that file available for download somewhere?
  • [23:29:01] <recalcati> it is the demo inside PS3
  • [23:29:24] <mru> what demo?
  • [23:29:26] <recalcati> if I play it in a PC, from usb pen, it works good
  • [23:29:46] <mru> my ps3 didn't come with any samples that I can recall
  • [23:29:58] <mru> it did come with a free bluray film though
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  • [23:30:02] <recalcati> in PS3 there are free trailer, I copy it on an usb pen, and then I played from beagleboard
  • [23:30:18] <mru> did you download it from the playstation store?
  • [23:30:25] <mru> in that case I can get it
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  • [23:30:30] <recalcati> mru: you have to download the free demo
  • [23:30:34] <recalcati> yes
  • [23:30:38] <mru> what demo?
  • [23:30:46] <recalcati> Stardust_SD.mp4
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  • [23:32:42] <recalcati> I have to do bitbake omapfbplay to have the best player, or I have to do bitbake mplayer, to have also the sound?
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