• [00:00:22] <atin_> yeah, I am running ubuntu on it right now so will see what the settings are :)
  • [00:00:46] <geckosenator> my dual framebuffer matrox always booted both in 640x480, then you could switch to whatever resolution you wanted with fbset
  • [00:00:57] <geckosenator> so there weren't modes hardcoded in the kernel
  • [00:01:18] <geckosenator> atin_: just run fbset and it gives you the timings
  • [00:01:26] <ds2> koen: that doesn't make sense (regarding the 5V/3.3V I2C)... the beagle has a (effectively) 5V HDMI connector...
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  • [00:01:49] <geckosenator> I thought it is required to be 5v by standard
  • [00:02:18] <geckosenator> you could put resistors and zeners in... that's how I bitbang usb with a 5v micro
  • [00:02:35] <ds2> USB is 3.3V differential though
  • [00:04:17] <geckosenator> I wasn't driving with a differential driver though.. you can get away with that if it's lowspeed
  • [00:06:57] <flo_lap> koen: What is the ststus of musb in latest 2.6.27 in oe?
  • [00:07:23] <flo_lap> er... status
  • [00:07:43] <mru> koen: I noticed the arm.com address
  • [00:08:19] <mru> means he might be useful ;-)
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  • [00:10:49] <Crofton|work> mru, my thoughts exaclty
  • [00:11:08] <Crofton|work> I'll mention you have a day job that does not involve irc
  • [00:11:44] <mru> feel free to give him my email address
  • [00:12:03] <mru> it should be easy to find
  • [00:12:32] <mru> and the spammers already have it
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  • [00:34:27] <geckosenator> apparently if I type "make uImage" it isn't the same as typing "make" then "make uImage"
  • [00:35:02] <geckosenator> I think it is the first time through, but after that, it doesn't recompile modified sources
  • [00:35:09] <Crofton|work> flo_lap, I need to figure that out and hook up a usrp
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  • [00:36:09] <mru> geckosenator: "make uImage" doesn't build modules
  • [00:36:42] <flo_lap> Crofton|work: looks like it does nothing...
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  • [00:36:45] <mru> it should rebuild any changed file that goes into the kernel proper
  • [00:37:12] <Crofton|work> hmm
  • [00:41:08] <ds2> geckosenator: try - make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm_....- uImage where arm_... is the prefix for the compiler.. i.e. if I am using arm-none-eabi-gcc, that would arm-none-eabi-
  • [00:41:27] <geckosenator> oh, I had to change the CROSS_COMPILE in the makefile
  • [00:41:39] <geckosenator> since openembedded uses a different prefix than the codesourcery one
  • [00:42:03] <geckosenator> mru: is omapfb normally a module?
  • [00:42:59] <geckosenator> oh, wait, there is video/omap and video/omap2
  • [00:43:05] <geckosenator> that threw me off
  • [00:43:14] <geckosenator> I was editing in video/omap not video/omap2
  • [00:43:43] <mru> omapfb from l-o git can't be built as module
  • [00:43:49] <mru> you can configure it, but it won't link
  • [00:44:12] <mru> my tree has patches to build it as a module
  • [00:44:30] <geckosenator> the stuff in omap2 is completely different from omap
  • [00:45:30] <geckosenator> mru: right now I'm editing stuff in tmp/work.. do you use openembedded to apply patches?
  • [00:46:05] <mru> no, I build the kernel separately
  • [00:46:44] <geckosenator> ok, this is what I want to do
  • [00:46:56] <geckosenator> do you apply the patches that openembedded automatically applies?
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  • [01:16:44] <geckosenator> well I just booted 2.6.28 without problems
  • [01:17:21] <geckosenator> well maybe I had issues, but it's with my laptop not the beagle
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  • [06:31:27] <geckosenator> anyone familiar with the new omap framebuffer driver?
  • [06:31:41] <geckosenator> it's in video/omap2
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  • [06:36:57] <geckosenator> this new driver gives me fb0 fb1 and fb2!
  • [06:37:07] * geckosenator gets excited
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  • [07:06:27] <tomba> the old driver gives you those also, if you configure it =)
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  • [07:24:49] <geckosenator> tomba: it does lcd and svideo at the same time?
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  • [07:29:33] <tomba> yes
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  • [07:54:28] <geckosenator> yay, there is a git for the new dss
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  • [08:37:38] <koen> geckosenator: it's symlink to /var/tmp, remove it if you want it to be permanent
  • [08:40:40] <koen> me just noticed that the laptop with the windows VM is gone
  • [08:40:54] <koen> so I still can't unpack the linux sgx sdk
  • [08:42:05] <ds2> DOH
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  • [08:50:46] * koen is running out of polite words to describe the process of getting a *linux* sdk from TI
  • [09:00:13] <guillaum1> :-)
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  • [09:40:58] <kulve> koen: you can "unzip" the windows executable nicely with wine
  • [09:41:05] <kulve> then you can untar the bz2 :)
  • [09:43:14] <koen> let me try to install wine
  • [09:50:08] <dirk2> keesj: ping
  • [09:50:41] <koen> kulve: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/ea5ee0b6d4d42f19ecb7a182ceb204e3.png :)
  • [09:50:54] <koen> kulve: that's on an omap3 evm
  • [09:51:10] <koen> (remote X since my linux build box is headless)
  • [09:51:58] <kulve> :)
  • [09:53:46] <khasim> I got my overo ....
  • [09:54:42] <koen> funny that the only reason for the .exe is a eula
  • [09:54:52] <supo> Is there an updated list of tested and working usb-ethernet adapters?
  • [09:55:02] <koen> and this kind of click wrap has no legal standing in most of europe
  • [09:55:23] <khasim> I see console on USB kind of connector, does any one know if UART is over USB or it is using USB connector to give out the UART signals
  • [09:56:23] <svante> Hi all. I've tried to follow the links in the first post in this thread: http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/335c2f6cb7b2adc5, in order to be able to eventually play 720p video from the beagle board. Yesterday I was adviced to try: gst-launch-0.10 filesrc location="Diablo3-GameplayTrail
  • [09:56:23] <svante> er_EU_EN.avi" ! avidemux ! omx_mpeg4dec ! ffmpegcolorspace ! fbdevsink, which gives me:
  • [09:56:23] <khasim> Has some one tried this "Movial Octopus Media Engine"
  • [09:56:31] <svante> Setting pipeline to PAUSED ...
  • [09:56:31] <svante> Pipeline is PREROLLING ...
  • [09:56:31] <svante> ****************LCML ERROR : DSP ************************
  • [09:56:31] <svante> Error: DSP Manager Open : Err Num = 80008008
  • [09:56:31] <svante> ****************LCML ERROR : DSP ************************
  • [09:56:33] <dirk2> khasim: UART is over USB. Connect USB and you should get /dev/ttyUSBx
  • [09:56:59] <khasim> dirk2: thanks
  • [09:57:11] <khasim> dirk2: does it also get recognized with Windows machines
  • [09:57:25] <kulve> khasim: I have ;)
  • [09:57:31] <dirk2> khasim: don't know. No windows machine ;)
  • [09:57:36] <koen> kulve: it gets worse, it's an old july release
  • [09:57:43] <svante> And a possible workaround for this should be: ./dynreg.out -r pingdyn_3430.dll64P, but this changes nothing. Any suggestions as to where I went wrong?
  • [09:57:47] <kulve> koen: :(
  • [09:57:51] <koen> kulve: so it's actually older than other sgx SDKs I have
  • [09:58:16] <khasim> dirk2: ok, will check this out
  • [09:58:26] <kulve> koen: that whole process is quite a mess
  • [09:58:57] <khasim> kulve: great, was reading an article ... http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS3323008844.html
  • [09:59:08] <kulve> khasim: I work @ movial..
  • [09:59:12] <dirk2> khasim: Do you know Thomas Abraham or Swami? They sent MUSB for DaVinci to U-Boot list yesterday.
  • [09:59:25] <khasim> kulve: I know :)
  • [09:59:45] <kulve> khasim: I wasn't sure if you would remember it .)
  • [09:59:52] <khasim> dirk2: yes, they are in same office as me
  • [10:00:14] * khasim wants to know where dirk2 works :)
  • [10:00:49] <khasim> dirk2: do you need any info from Swami and team?
  • [10:00:56] * dirk2 has already some christmas free days :)
  • [10:01:53] <dirk2> khasim: info: No. Would be quite nice if you could check that they do the OMAP patches against our OMAP3 patch series ;)
  • [10:02:28] <dirk2> khasim: and I think they got a comment to rebase against u-boot-usb
  • [10:02:39] <khasim> dirk2: ok, I am in touch with them, I was requesting them to add USB keyboard support, will suggest them to work on top of our patches
  • [10:03:29] <khasim> dirk2: Most of TI folks will be on vacation from Friday. Dont know if they will be considering to continue there work this week or after vacation
  • [10:03:38] <dirk2> khasim: ok, thanks :) What will we need USB keyboard for?
  • [10:04:17] <khasim> dirk2: we thought of using USB Keyboard and Console over DVI and totally bypass UART
  • [10:05:11] <dirk2> khasim: ah, ok. No serial issues any more ;)
  • [10:05:51] <khasim> dirk2: yeah, we have to fix that some how
  • [10:09:35] * koen reads something about musb and uboot
  • [10:09:49] <koen> is DFU support already in upstream uboot?
  • [10:10:14] <khasim> open moko had DFU, don't know if any one pushed it upstream
  • [10:10:48] <khasim> we had DFU support for some DM device, but didn't get ported to OMAP
  • [10:11:27] <koen> the DFU code should be generic, shouldn't it?
  • [10:11:41] <koen> the USB would be SoC specific
  • [10:11:46] <khasim> yes, the USB controller part was missing
  • [10:12:04] <dirk2> koen: We are talking about http://lists.denx.de/pipermail/u-boot/2008-December/044896.html
  • [10:12:13] <khasim> if we interface the TWL USB transceiver code then it should work straight
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  • [10:16:37] <supo> What usb-etherner adapters are you guys using? My A-Link doesn't work and I need to buy a new one
  • [10:16:52] <supo> ethernet that is
  • [10:17:06] <koen> linksys usb200m, but the build quality is appalling
  • [10:18:25] <supo> well, if it works its good enough for me. Thanks for the info.
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  • [10:21:35] <khasim> I use NETGEAR FA120
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  • [10:38:27] <khasim> OVERO UART works with Windows, detects as FTR USB driver
  • [10:39:00] <khasim> the wonderful part is it boots angstrom by default,
  • [10:39:29] <khasim> dont know if this is what out of box is or Sakoman sent me his board :)
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  • [10:41:38] <dirk2> khasim: As Gumstix ships a SD card, too, I think this is the default.
  • [10:42:11] <dirk2> khasim: Do you have an Overo air? 128 or 256MB RAM?
  • [10:43:45] <koen> khasim: gumstix uses OE as default buildsystem nowda
  • [10:43:51] <koen> nowadays
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  • [10:58:22] <khasim> dirk2: it is overo buddy
  • [10:58:56] <khasim> not sure about memory
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  • [11:00:58] <florian> good morning
  • [11:03:32] <khasim> florian: good morning
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  • [11:44:11] <Curtis123> Good morning
  • [11:44:17] <Guest49521> 'allo
  • [11:46:00] <Curtis123> What do I have to do that bitbake find my own bb-files? I added the path to BBFILES and bitbake does not find my package...
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  • [11:51:35] <Curtis123> I put my bb files in ~/my_oe and $BBFILES contains my bb-file but: ERROR: Nothing PROVIDES 'hellowork'
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  • [12:32:03] * koen wonders why pandora people say gimp is running "on non accelerated SDL"
  • [12:32:18] <koen> I suspect they mean "X11", not "SDL"
  • [12:32:29] <Curtis123> Hopefully
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  • [12:33:08] <Curtis123> koen: Do you have an idea why bitbake does not find my bb file?
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  • [12:34:36] <koen> try running with -D for more output
  • [12:36:49] <Curtis123> DEBUG: Using cache in '/home/developer/oe/tmp/cache/glibc/beagleboard' - Do I have delete the cache?
  • [12:37:26] <koen> touch conf/local.conf
  • [12:42:02] <Curtis123> koen: Did not help - noting provides hellowork.bb?!?!
  • [12:43:03] <koen> bitbake takes providers, not filenames
  • [12:43:19] <koen> so 'bitbake hellowork', not 'bitbake hellowork.bb'
  • [12:43:45] <koen> with -D you should have an overview of which recipes it parsed
  • [12:47:16] <Curtis123> koen: http://www.mibbit.com/pb/lNGtzf (before that I touched local.conf and run bitbake hellowork)
  • [12:47:27] <jkridner> good morning all
  • [12:47:41] <Curtis123> good morning
  • [12:50:43] <florian> hi jkridner
  • [12:51:01] <jkridner> what is new?
  • [12:54:40] * florian managed to test the dlp finally
  • [12:55:06] <DJWills> koen: where does it say that?
  • [12:55:25] * DJWills dispairs with forums, esp. any to do with the Pandora and 'informed' people ;-)
  • [12:56:41] <DJWills> koen: hmmm, well there is GIMP in the E17/XOrg Pandora images with the XOMAPFB driver but I give up, what does SDL have to do with the price of fish ;-)
  • [12:59:05] <DJWills> Curtis123: hellowork or helloworld?
  • [13:03:43] <DJWills> Curtis123: http://rafb.net/p/vbmJTJ10.html is what I have for my multibranch setup. Works well with GIT being the primary, wrapped on stuff secondary and a third structure with my own BB's in.
  • [13:07:02] <khasim> florian: do you use pico projector from TI
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  • [13:14:36] <florian> khasim: yes
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  • [13:32:19] <koen> DJWills: the video, ED talks about everything running inside unaccel'ed SDL
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  • [13:34:44] <DJWills> koen: you know, I did not even look at that (just dispaired) ;-)
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  • [13:36:30] <koen> DJWills: the video was good enough that I posted it in the angstrom homepage
  • [13:38:21] <Crofton|work> dlp resoultion is not good enough to use as a monitor though?
  • [13:39:49] <koen> after tweaking the fonts it became a lot better
  • [13:40:13] <koen> I need to do some proper testing with test patterns to see if I can beat the scaling algo
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  • [13:42:40] <DJWills> koen: the downside was that it was one of the demo E17 images and the final GUI is matchbox based so it has led to lots of questions about why E17 was shown not matchbox ;-)
  • [13:43:50] <koen> heh
  • [13:43:50] <Curtis123> DJWills: I added the path with my bb files to local.conf, now I get: "ERROR: /home/developer/my_oe/*/*.bb" is not a BitBake file while parsing /home/developer/my_oe/*/*.bb" "
  • [13:44:21] <Curtis123> the bb file: http://www.mibbit.com/pb/5WgjZw
  • [13:44:52] <DJWills> koen: can you think of any reason a local.conf from BB 1.8.10 wont work in 1.8.13 (well SVN)? In this specific case it does not seem to want to expand environment vars.
  • [13:45:16] <DJWills> Curtis123: having a look (mind you, just broken my setup with a BB upgrade ;-))
  • [13:46:09] <Curtis123> my conf: http://www.mibbit.com/pb/0O1N3a - oh I see there is a doubled " - I try again
  • [13:46:11] <DJWills> Curtis123: care to paste up your local.conf (to a pastebin)
  • [13:46:13] <koen> DJWills: bitbake now filters out most env vars
  • [13:46:33] <DJWills> koen: ah, crap, hmmm, that's 'helpful' ;-)
  • [13:47:01] <koen> DJWills: http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2008-October/006289.html
  • [13:47:40] <Curtis123> ITs working now, its working! Stupid error (but its hard to thing with a dug at lunch...)
  • [13:48:06] <DJWills> koen: as usual a star, did not see much on the BB list but forgot to check OE's.
  • [13:50:03] <koen> there's a small catch, you can't uses vars with '_' in their names
  • [13:50:16] <koen> that's why I renamed ANGSTROM_MODE to ANGSTROMLIBC
  • [13:50:40] <DJWills> koen: good to know, one of them may have caught me out, i'll fix that.
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  • [13:51:18] <likewise> hey all
  • [13:51:18] <DJWills> koen: hmmm, the latest BB seems a lot harder on EOL and format rules, a very good thing.
  • [13:53:23] <Curtis123> koen: any idea when the problem with shared-mime-info-native-package is fixed ("NOTE: package shared-mime-info-native-0.51: failed")
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  • [14:02:15] <koen> Curtis123: it's a -native package, so the problems most likely stem from your host system
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  • [14:04:55] <koen> DJWills: it's a preparation for a C based parsing, lemon is a lot harder on EOLs
  • [14:08:20] <Curtis123> koen: oh. am using ubuntu. Hmm. No idea.
  • [14:17:22] <DJWills> koen: how is the C parser these days, taking shape?
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  • [14:24:01] <Curtis123> does mean native that it will copiled for the host system? Could it help if I install the ubuntu package?
  • [14:25:05] <Curtis123> I do have an installed shared-mime-info, version 0.23-5
  • [14:26:40] <koen> DJWills: the c parser isn't being worked n AFAIK
  • [14:31:18] <Curtis123> Also when I try to compile manually in the work dir I get: http://www.mibbit.com/pb/m6WwEF
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  • [14:31:49] <Curtis123> this makes me wodern why it says "me/developer" not "/home/developer"...
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  • [14:34:53] <Curtis123> when I manually do a configure: http://www.mibbit.com/pb/uCR909 - but I do have libxml 2.6.31.
  • [14:37:29] <Curtis123> okay - I installed libxml2-dev..
  • [14:37:47] <atin_> question: does anyone know how to go from the Xconf model line settings for a monitor to the stuff that goes in omapfb_main.c?
  • [14:38:19] <atin_> that is, the horizontal front porch, horizontal sync pulse width, horizontal back porch etc?
  • [14:38:34] <atin_> I figured out how to read the EDID information
  • [14:38:48] <atin_> but not how to convert it to the form that omapfb wants.
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  • [14:40:55] <Curtis123> ...and libglib2.0-dev - and now it works! :-)
  • [14:41:36] <koen> atin_: just stick something in and see if it works :)
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  • [14:41:51] <koen> atin_: sakoman had a link to a website that could calculate stuff
  • [14:42:31] <atin_> I found something that explains what the xconf stuff means, but going from that to the form that omapfb wants gave me a headache!
  • [14:43:53] <koen> note that 1600x1200 requires a large pixclock
  • [14:44:06] <atin_> yes - mine says 162.00
  • [14:44:17] <atin_> if dotclock and pixclock are the same thing ..
  • [14:44:25] <koen> with 96MHz you'll get onyl ~40Hz vertical refresh rate
  • [14:44:42] <koen> my screen will accept that, but yours might not
  • [14:45:16] <sakoman> atin_: IIRC correctly I wasn't able to come up with a set of parameters that would allow 1600 x 1200 on OMAP with any reasonable refresh rate
  • [14:45:38] <atin_> ok - maybe I just need to use something else that "works" for my monitor.
  • [14:45:41] <sakoman> That's why it isn't one of the available options
  • [14:45:45] <koen> atin_: put your modeline into http://www.tkk.fi/Misc/Electronics/faq/vga2rgb/calc.html
  • [14:45:47] <atin_> my monitor doesn't like the default it chooses - just keeps complaining.
  • [14:46:19] <atin_> I just want a legal one I guess :) - 1024x768 would be fine if it showed. the interesting thing is that the beagleboard screen shows
  • [14:46:24] <koen> sakoman: my beagle did 24Hz at 1600x1200, but that was before mru fixes the PLL clocking
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  • [14:46:50] <atin_> but once linux comes up, nothing but the complaint from the monitor.
  • [14:46:59] <koen> but I agree anything below 50Hz is unreasonable :)
  • [14:47:07] <sakoman> koen: I was trying for standards
  • [14:47:45] <sakoman> hi khasim!
  • [14:48:08] <koen> if someone figures out how to use the 193MHz pll we could have 60Hz :)
  • [14:48:18] <khasim> sakoman: hi
  • [14:48:33] <khasim> sakoman: thanks a lot for Overo, its awesome
  • [14:49:37] <sakoman> I'll pass on the thanks to Gumtix
  • [14:49:57] <sakoman> Glad it finally got there
  • [14:51:03] <sakoman> khasim: did they ship you a version with wifi/bt?
  • [14:51:42] <sakoman> did you get the summit board that includes a 40 pin header?
  • [14:52:02] <khasim> sakoman: I have received Antenna, don't know how to test the same
  • [14:52:45] <sakoman> khasim - if you got the wifi/bt version it should just work
  • [14:53:05] <khasim> there is a wifi chip on the processor board
  • [14:53:51] <khasim> sakoman: I will test this tomorrow.
  • [14:53:52] <sakoman> khasim: see the picture at the bottom of this page: http://www.gumstix.net/Software/view/Software-Overo/Overview/111.html
  • [14:54:51] <khasim> sakoman: yes I have w2cb chipset and the antennas. I think it will work now
  • [14:55:13] <khasim> sakoman: I am back at home, overo is in office :(
  • [14:55:25] <sakoman> does your i/o board look like that one, or is it smaller with a 40 pin header?
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  • [14:57:33] <sakoman> khasim: bt should just work, wifi won't auto connect with the current image - if you have an open network you'll need to "iwconfig eth0 essid any" and udhcpc -i eth0" toget it going
  • [14:58:06] <sakoman> adjust the iwconfig step if not an open network
  • [14:58:39] <khasim> sakoman: ok
  • [14:58:58] <sakoman> khasim: report bugs :-)
  • [14:59:32] <khasim> sakoman: I expected fix bugs :)
  • [14:59:57] <sakoman> also, you may want to update the sw at some point. I think that they are shipping v0.90 and v0.91 should be ready in the next day or so.
  • [15:00:28] <sakoman> maybe you can help by looking at ehci :-)
  • [15:00:50] <sakoman> it comes up and immediately auto suspends
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  • [15:01:46] <khasim> sakoman: we have to fix ehci for all boards now, will give it a try
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  • [15:02:19] <sakoman> I can't say for certain that there aren't hw problems
  • [15:02:40] <sakoman> the hw *seems* to be pretty much identical to pandora
  • [15:03:17] <sakoman> the only difference is the PHY - iirc pandora is 3222 and overo is 3226
  • [15:03:37] <sakoman> though that may be the issue . . .
  • [15:03:39] <prpplague> jkridner: ping
  • [15:03:45] <florian> khasim: yes (repeated)
  • [15:03:46] <jkridner> pong.
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  • [15:04:31] <prpplague> jkridner: hey, revC boards, i was under the impression that the 2x14 expansion header would be the same as on revB, is that not correct?
  • [15:05:13] <khasim> florian: thanks for the reminder
  • [15:05:23] <khasim> florian: do you see any color saturation
  • [15:05:36] <jkridner> Gerald it talking about having the same signals, but from different pins (same signals via different mux connections)
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  • [15:06:50] <likewise> koen: 24 Hz is nice for film :-)
  • [15:07:06] <florian> khasim: I see some color effect... the image in the bottom left area seems to suffer from too much of red or magenta
  • [15:07:08] <prpplague> jkridner: that was my understanding
  • [15:07:42] <prpplague> jkridner: some how, rusty got the understanding from gerald that the physical connector would be different
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  • [15:10:38] <jkridner> he was entertaining the idea of adding the extra signals, but the mechanicals wouldn't be compatible. I think that idea was dropped.
  • [15:10:46] <jkridner> close with Rusty and Gerald.
  • [15:10:48] <svante> To run the 720p video demo, what kernel video parameter would you give?
  • [15:11:26] <prpplague> jkridner: will do
  • [15:12:15] <khasim> florian: I was told that Pico was 320x480
  • [15:12:45] <khasim> florian: the pico I own is not with me for few days... thought of passing the findings to you
  • [15:12:54] <svante> I'm at a point where I do a: gst-launch-0.10 filesrc location="big_buck_bunny_720p_surround.avi" ! avidemux ! omx_mpeg4dec ! omapfbsink, and get: Caught SIGSEGV accessing address (nil)
  • [15:12:58] <koen> florian: same here, red cast of the leftmost 1/6 of the image
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  • [15:13:21] <khasim> florian: if required you can change the resolution to 320x480 and see if the image quality improves
  • [15:13:50] <florian> khasim: yes, that's a nice idea
  • [15:14:18] <florian> koen: I hope they'll get that fixed before the production starts...
  • [15:14:50] <koen> florian: indeed, but it took me a day to notice :)
  • [15:14:51] <khasim> florian: I think its more of a s/w configuration and nothing much to do with the h/w itself
  • [15:15:06] <khasim> we can confirm with Jim Malina
  • [15:15:46] <koen> Jim is going to test picos today
  • [15:16:12] <florian> khasim: that's a good idea, I'll try his later today
  • [15:16:57] <koen> it's like 8 am in dallas :)
  • [15:17:01] <florian> koen: It took me half an hour before I noticed... Nils is used to judging image quality - three seconds and he noticed it :)
  • [15:17:37] <florian> khasim: we'll see
  • [15:18:00] <florian> Do we know what the small ffc connector provides? :)
  • [15:18:02] <koen> florian: the left part of the picture has hitting curtains
  • [15:18:13] <koen> and the curtains are red :)
  • [15:18:21] <koen> red/yellow to be exact
  • [15:18:25] <florian> koen: heh
  • [15:19:05] <khasim> florian: can you give your mail ID, I was mailing Jim thought of looping you and koen
  • [15:19:17] <khasim> florian: on a separate window
  • [15:19:26] <koen> khasim: koen@beagleboard.org
  • [15:19:36] <khasim> :)
  • [15:19:45] <khasim> I was using your old one
  • [15:20:10] <koen> that works as well, but goes into a different mailbox
  • [15:20:15] <florian> khasim: fb@kernelconcepts.de is one all spammers know already ;)
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  • [15:23:35] <florian> khasim: thanks
  • [15:24:52] <khasim> florian: most welcome
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  • [15:51:25] <florian> khasim: I can confirm the resolution... it takes 640x480 but the physical resolution is 320x480.
  • [15:59:48] <dirk2> jkridner: ping
  • [16:00:08] <khasim> florian: yes, so I think it is doing some sort of scaling
  • [16:00:42] <khasim> florian: therefore we see some distortion
  • [16:00:45] <jkridner> pong dirk2
  • [16:01:06] <khasim> florian: we should set 320x480 and give similar image for rendering
  • [16:01:27] <koen> khasim: you might run into troubles with the aspect
  • [16:02:20] <florian> koen: would the framebuffer driver support this?
  • [16:02:40] <jkridner> is it 320x480 or 480x320?
  • [16:03:01] <dirk2> jkridner: I remember you mentioned a OMAP3 JTAG scan chain (?) document which is not available for download. I'm interested in it.
  • [16:03:17] <khasim> florian, koen: the current FB driver will not support this resolution, but we should add the same and test it
  • [16:03:24] <jkridner> I saw that on the mailing list. I keep remembering it at the wrong times.
  • [16:03:35] <jkridner> I don't have it on this machine.
  • [16:04:12] <jkridner> I typically read my beagleboard mail from home. I'm at home now due to morning conference calls and will head to the office now.
  • [16:04:32] <florian> khasim: indeed
  • [16:04:40] <jkridner> prpplague is welcome to forward it to the openocd folks as long as he informs me who is getting it.
  • [16:04:40] <dirk2> jkridner: np. are keesj or prpplague allowed to send me their copy?
  • [16:04:46] <koen> florian: it a matter of adding a mode, not that hard
  • [16:05:01] <jkridner> dirk2: beat you to that request. :)
  • [16:05:03] <jkridner> yes, they can send it to you.
  • [16:05:17] <dirk2> :)
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  • [16:05:22] <jkridner> it isn't anything that is secret, just poor quality documentation.
  • [16:05:40] <koen> poor quality still beats nothing at all :)
  • [16:05:40] <dirk2> k, yes, I understand this
  • [16:05:46] <jkridner> like it not to generate too many questions, but if it is part of this same effort it is good.
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  • [16:06:45] <florian> koen: yes indeed, that should be easy
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  • [16:09:32] <sakoman> dirk2: very minimal response to the omap3 patches on the u-boot list
  • [16:09:52] <sakoman> not sure whether that is good or bad :-)
  • [16:09:56] <dirk2> sakoman: Yes :(
  • [16:10:14] <dirk2> sakoman: First, we got an ACK from Scott fro NAND
  • [16:10:28] <sakoman> yes, that was nice
  • [16:11:18] <dirk2> sakoman: did you see the "next u-boot release is delayed one month due to a lot of patches" ?
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  • [16:11:52] <dirk2> sakoman: My understanding is that Wolfgang has no time to look at it
  • [16:12:03] <sakoman> dirk2 :-(
  • [16:12:46] <dirk2> sakoman: My feeling is that it takes several weeks until they will look at it and we then get a "please redo again"
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  • [16:13:24] <sakoman> dirk2: probably so
  • [16:16:24] <dirk2> sakoman: additionally, I'm not sure what this "we have to delay the next release because we have so many patches" mean. Does it mean they consider including all (our?) patches *before* next release in rcX version? Or do we have to wait until 2009.01 is out (~January 17) and then could get them in in open merge window? I don't know :(
  • [16:16:32] <koen> florian: I also want to see if we can use DSS to scale from vga to hvga to preserve some desktop 'space'
  • [16:17:11] <koen> florian: since mplayer refuses to display movies that are wider than the output with the XV driver
  • [16:18:17] <sakoman> dirk2: I can't really tell what he means either. I guess we will see
  • [16:18:37] <dirk2> sakoman: yes. and wait.
  • [16:19:52] <florian> koen: that would be nice indeed
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  • [17:42:22] <geckosenator> koen: ok, I removed the symlink and fixed it
  • [17:42:42] <geckosenator> koen: maybe you can try wine to run the installer program, it is usually good at that
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  • [17:46:37] <tharvey> anyone using the SD/MMC+ port/connector for SDIO? I'm looking at evaluating a libertas SDIO module
  • [17:46:46] <koen> geckosenator: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/ea5ee0b6d4d42f19ecb7a182ceb204e3.png :)
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  • [18:03:42] <geckosenator> koen: did it work? heh
  • [18:04:39] <geckosenator> I guess it doesn't need to work in the traditional sense.. just get you the tarball
  • [18:05:15] <koen> it worked and I have the tarball
  • [18:05:44] <geckosenator> nice
  • [18:06:01] <geckosenator> now you can uninstall wine :-P
  • [18:06:20] <koen> except that I'm an idiot and asked for the SDK instead of the driver kit
  • [18:06:32] <florian> bbl
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  • [18:14:25] <koen> ds2: the i2c level difference wasn't in issue with the pico
  • [18:14:38] <ds2> koen: then what is?
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  • [18:15:02] <koen> ds2: triggering a firmware upgrade by accident
  • [18:15:38] <ds2> koen: over I2C?
  • [18:15:57] <koen> touching register 44 on device 1a can result in erasing the fpga firmware
  • [18:16:14] <koen> you have to jiggle a few bits in the right way before it to work
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  • [18:16:28] <koen> it seems the i2cdump tool does that by accident
  • [18:16:48] <ds2> Ohhhh that
  • [18:17:01] <ds2> so it is safe to use it as a display on a PC
  • [18:17:19] <koen> the jury is still out on that
  • [18:17:29] <ds2> the i2c package (maybe it is lmsensors) had a warning about that
  • [18:17:43] <ds2> some thinkpads were getting brickedby that
  • [18:17:49] <koen> root@beagleboard:/sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-3# i2cdump 3 0x1a b
  • [18:17:50] <koen> WARNING! This program can confuse your I2C bus, cause data loss and worse!
  • [18:17:50] <koen> I will probe file /dev/i2c-3, address 0x1a, mode byte
  • [18:17:50] <koen> Continue? [Y/n]
  • [18:17:53] <koen> like that?
  • [18:18:11] <koen> since I don't know anythign about i2c I though "reading stuff can't do any harm"
  • [18:18:12] <ds2> no, the readme I think
  • [18:18:22] <ds2> reading and writing can be dangerous
  • [18:18:29] * koen was wrong about that
  • [18:18:45] <ds2> cuz I am guessing I am not the only person that likes to trigger magic on a read ;)
  • [18:19:00] <ds2> I did an entire LCD controller that way
  • [18:19:10] <koen> :)
  • [18:19:26] <ds2> 80186 design for a class
  • [18:19:54] <ds2> looping dma controller + fancy decoding to generate the clocks
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  • [18:40:14] <tech_> Hi, will I get discount if I order 100+ boards?
  • [18:40:56] <jkridner|work> tech_: not likely. I don't think DigiKey will currently sell more than 25 at a time.
  • [18:41:05] <jkridner|work> you'd have to deal with a contract manufacturer directly.
  • [18:41:46] <tech_> jkridner|work: thank you. I'll look some where else then.
  • [18:41:51] <jkridner|work> If you buy 1000+, you can likely get them cheaper.
  • [18:42:13] <tech_> 1k+ are too much :(
  • [18:42:15] <jkridner|work> There are some cheaper alternatives starting to show up.
  • [18:42:25] <tech_> like?
  • [18:42:28] <jkridner|work> http://www.realtimedsp.com.cn/product/edetail.asp?ID=272
  • [18:42:37] <jkridner|work> still a development board, not really a product.
  • [18:42:41] <tech_> thank you :)
  • [18:43:43] <jkridner|work> I'm hopeful someone will publicly announce something more of and end product that is still "open", and thus allow things to be even cheaper with larger volumes, but I haven't seen it yet. (hinting to the world.)
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  • [18:45:04] <tech_> any idea who can develop a new board for me?
  • [18:45:39] <mru> hi ldesnogu_
  • [18:45:46] <tech_> I want a board with a specific set of features.
  • [18:45:58] <mru> ldesnogu_: do you know who that ARM guy is who was asking about ffmpeg yesterday?
  • [18:46:10] <ldesnogu_> I missed it
  • [18:46:21] <ldesnogu_> mru, what was his/her nick?
  • [18:46:34] <mru> royerfa
  • [18:47:07] <ldesnogu_> mru, oh he is a new ARM employee; he spent some time at TI in Germany playing with Beagle a few months ago
  • [18:47:21] <ldesnogu_> mru, he works in Cambridge I guess
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  • [18:48:48] <Gareth> jkridner|work: ping.
  • [18:50:28] <Crofton|work> tech_, have you looked at the gumstix products?
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  • [18:52:14] <tech_> Crofton|work: I have been searching the Internet up and down for a sub-$100 board (or computers) that can display on wide-screens
  • [18:52:59] <tech_> Crofton|work: I have checked with gumstix but they don't have what I need
  • [19:01:17] <ds2> any chance the bare PCBs could be orderable?
  • [19:05:59] <ZeZu> who was working on the schem. for the expansion board? and the second usb chipset on the bboard is non working on revB* right ?
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  • [19:06:29] <koen> tech_: the problem with sub $100 boards it that their display controller (if they have anything worth calling a controller) sucks
  • [19:08:55] <geckosenator> ZeZu: I am working on expansions
  • [19:09:43] <ZeZu> was that your page with the partially finished diagrams etc ?
  • [19:09:52] <geckosenator> no
  • [19:10:28] <koen> Crofton|work: the pm branch got updated with beagle tweaks
  • [19:10:37] <Crofton|work> I saw
  • [19:10:40] <ZeZu> eh i'll probably use a hub and all usb anyhow
  • [19:10:54] <Crofton|work> I'm working on a recipe, supposed to working on another task atm though
  • [19:11:17] <ZeZu> I'm sticking a beagleboard on a rc heli, with a small arsenal of other hardware and a xbee pro
  • [19:11:29] <ZeZu> and probably an airsoft gun just to f*ck with people
  • [19:11:30] <Crofton|work> ZeZu, any missles?
  • [19:11:34] <ZeZu> course :)
  • [19:11:35] <Crofton|work> :)
  • [19:11:46] <geckosenator> you should add bombs too
  • [19:11:48] <ZeZu> trying to pick all the stuff now
  • [19:12:14] <ZeZu> hehe
  • [19:12:23] <ZeZu> trying to pickout all the hardware now
  • [19:12:29] <geckosenator> I have usb magnetometers
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  • [19:12:37] <ZeZu> xbee is cheap enough
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  • [19:13:00] <ZeZu> really? never seen one
  • [19:13:13] <ZeZu> never had much of a use for one though either
  • [19:13:22] <ZeZu> real strong electromagnets are fun
  • [19:13:23] <geckosenator> well, in a helicopter
  • [19:13:38] <geckosenator> you can use it for stabalizing
  • [19:13:53] <geckosenator> is it going to have an autopilot?
  • [19:13:59] <ZeZu> yes
  • [19:14:06] <geckosenator> yeah, a magnetometer will help there
  • [19:14:40] <ZeZu> wouldn't have even thought to use one
  • [19:15:03] <ZeZu> acells and infrared thermopiles
  • [19:15:17] <ds2> why zigbee? the EZ430-RF2500 seems nicer
  • [19:15:28] <ZeZu> whats its speed/range ?
  • [19:15:35] <ZeZu> i can't say i've looked at it
  • [19:15:38] <geckosenator> thermopiles?
  • [19:16:03] <geckosenator> so you measure the temperature gradients around you/
  • [19:16:04] <ZeZu> zigbee is pretty well tested anyhow, if that is a better choice i'm definitely up for suggestions
  • [19:16:24] <geckosenator> I think you will want gyros
  • [19:16:29] <dirk2> ZeZu: http://pixhawk.ethz.ch/wiki/computer_vision/start
  • [19:16:35] <ZeZu> definitely will have gyros
  • [19:16:50] <ds2> the EZ430-RF2500 is a dev/demo board for the MSP430
  • [19:16:57] <geckosenator> well without a magnetometer, you won't be able to compensate drift in the yaw gyro
  • [19:17:02] <ZeZu> dirk2, thanks :)
  • [19:17:06] <ds2> and it is small
  • [19:17:44] <ZeZu> ds2, i'll take a look if its good going through a town for 10mi + and not ungodly expensive then it sounds like a plan
  • [19:18:12] <ZeZu> $50, not bad there
  • [19:18:39] <ds2> the range of zigbee isn't that great either
  • [19:18:48] <ZeZu> no?
  • [19:18:51] <geckosenator> ds2: it can do like 30 miles
  • [19:18:56] <ZeZu> i dont doube it, supposedly the pro can do 40km
  • [19:18:57] <geckosenator> maybe that's with directional antennas
  • [19:19:26] <geckosenator> and it can do mesh networking, so you have have a whole bunch of helicopters
  • [19:19:32] <ZeZu> ;)
  • [19:19:54] <ZeZu> i'd be really happy w/ 10mi even 5
  • [19:20:00] <geckosenator> even 1 heh
  • [19:20:34] <geckosenator> I can't pull the dss tree: http://www.bat.org/~tomba/git/linux-omap-dss.git/ :(
  • [19:20:41] <ZeZu> the area i live in is kindof rural ,, 1mi get about halfway into town
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  • [19:22:28] <ds2> that definitely is with a directional antenna
  • [19:22:40] <ds2> the numbers I am hearing are sub 500ft
  • [19:23:48] <ZeZu> line of site + directional antenna ?
  • [19:24:00] <ds2> most likely
  • [19:24:02] <ZeZu> I'm half tempted to use 102.11n :|
  • [19:24:09] <ZeZu> i dont think there is anything suitable really
  • [19:24:15] <ds2> and aiming a directional antenna at a moving object can be an interesting exercise
  • [19:24:24] <geckosenator> you can have servos aim the antennas in both ends
  • [19:24:42] <ds2> for 10miles, I'd use GPRS if you can tolerate the lag
  • [19:27:08] <ZeZu> if i'm going to get outrageous i'll probably use a cell phone with bluetooth PAN setup to run over the internet, there will definitely be some lag and a huge PITA
  • [19:33:53] <geckosenator> the whole thing is a PITA
  • [19:33:58] <geckosenator> are you working on this alone?
  • [19:36:23] <ZeZu> yes
  • [19:36:34] <ZeZu> i work on everything alone for some odd reason
  • [19:36:51] <ZeZu> except the dreamcast emulator, had a friend help with that, and it actually turned out nicely
  • [19:36:52] <geckosenator> maybe you should use the software in other autopilots
  • [19:37:12] <geckosenator> the stuff is tricky
  • [19:37:13] <ZeZu> http://paparazzi.enac.fr
  • [19:37:27] <ZeZu> software is my arena though
  • [19:37:30] <geckosenator> I was going to recommend that
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  • [19:37:33] <ZeZu> its the hardware i dont have a clue about
  • [19:37:35] <geckosenator> there is pleny of software though
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  • [19:37:52] <ZeZu> yes i'd likely just modify it to meet my needs
  • [19:38:09] <ZeZu> i'm not going to use their setup, but probably their base code and filters for some time
  • [19:38:24] <geckosenator> yes
  • [19:38:32] <geckosenator> the kalman filter isn't that hard to implement
  • [19:38:34] <ZeZu> i already have a board that use cypress usb chipset + acells. and many free pins
  • [19:38:36] <geckosenator> but it's tricky to make it work well
  • [19:38:41] <ZeZu> and a beagleboard
  • [19:38:48] <geckosenator> ok
  • [19:38:56] <geckosenator> let me know if you need a magnetometer
  • [19:39:07] <ZeZu> I definitely could use one :)
  • [19:39:08] <geckosenator> magnetometer can make your helicopter much more stable
  • [19:39:18] <geckosenator> since it actually gives you two angles of absolute orientation
  • [19:39:36] <geckosenator> accels give you two also, but they are affected by lateral acceleration
  • [19:39:37] <ZeZu> and i have a usb gps i wrote some software to parse
  • [19:39:40] <geckosenator> so you have to compensate with gyros
  • [19:39:59] <geckosenator> but the magnetometer gives you absolute oritentation and isn't affected by lateral acceleration
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  • [19:40:27] <ZeZu> right i've dealt the the accels before, and i dont know how much they will help, mixed with other things yes, but not by themselves
  • [19:40:40] <geckosenator> well the gyros give rate
  • [19:40:45] <geckosenator> so there is integration drift
  • [19:40:49] <geckosenator> plus the gyro biases drift
  • [19:41:10] <geckosenator> but you can estimate all of that and compensate it out with accels
  • [19:41:17] <geckosenator> unless you are in freefall :-P
  • [19:41:46] <ZeZu> yea :|
  • [19:41:50] <geckosenator> but if you use accels gyros and mags, you get much better, and it compensates all 3 gyros, not just 2
  • [19:42:07] <geckosenator> and if you are really good, you can autocalibrate all the sensors with eachother
  • [19:42:12] <geckosenator> since there is redundant data
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  • [20:30:19] <Crofton|work> heh
  • [20:30:23] <Crofton|work> wtf
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  • [20:31:14] <Crofton|work> I'm trying to build pm with Kevin's config
  • [20:37:23] <koen> he has initramfs set
  • [20:37:43] <koen> CONFIG_INITRAMFS_SOURCE
  • [20:39:01] <koen> you'll have better result by using the standard beagle config from OE
  • [20:39:10] <koen> since kevin turns off mmc and usb
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  • [21:03:32] <Crofton|work> hmm, I need mmc :)
  • [21:03:58] <Crofton|work> I have some specific needs, so I can leave usb off
  • [21:06:11] <Crofton|work> with an initramfs, it boots with a small rootfs in ram?
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  • [21:36:42] <koen> Crofton|work: an initramfs is an initrd built into the kernel
  • [21:37:12] <Crofton|work> I use to know about that stuff :(
  • [21:37:28] <Crofton|work> I'm taking your advice btw
  • [21:38:15] <koen> you can diff the 2 configs to get some hints
  • [21:55:01] <Crofton|work> ok, I am going to put my hands where my mouth is and create a branch for my pm screwing around ....
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  • [22:08:41] <jkridner|work> koen: thanks for squeakvm!
  • [22:09:18] <Gareth> jkridner|work: howdy :)
  • [22:11:03] <jkridner|work> hi Gareth
  • [22:13:16] <Gareth> jkridner|work: hey :) just following up, making sure you (BeagleBoards) is still interested in being at SCALE 7x.
  • [22:13:57] <Gareth> er are still interesting...
  • [22:14:10] <tomasg> Hey all. Does DigiKey have Rev C beagle's ready to ship? Is the only difference the second USB port is now populated?
  • [22:15:13] <jkridner|work> yes.
  • [22:15:21] <Gareth> Okay great :)
  • [22:15:21] <jkridner|work> We have someone from TI going.
  • [22:15:47] <jkridner|work> I'd like to find some other folks in the community interested in going and showing off whatever they are doing on Beagle.
  • [22:16:11] <jkridner|work> For some reason, I feel safer mentioning that here than on the mailing list.
  • [22:16:17] <Gareth> Yeah. definitely. That would be great.
  • [22:16:22] <Gareth> oh?
  • [22:16:35] <jkridner|work> I listened to the FLOSS Weekly podcast on SCALE. Was pretty good.
  • [22:16:48] <jkridner|work> no particular reason.
  • [22:16:50] <Gareth> Thanks :) that was fun.
  • [22:17:06] <Crofton|work> bother
  • [22:17:14] <Crofton|work> I was hoping it was in late jan
  • [22:17:24] <Gareth> SCALE?
  • [22:17:28] <Gareth> nope. february.
  • [22:17:40] <Crofton|work> Trying to come up with an excuse to go to san diego in Jan
  • [22:18:14] <Gareth> go to San Diego in February :) then come up for SCALE.
  • [22:18:36] <Crofton|work> yeah, the the meeting is in Jan :(
  • [22:18:50] <Gareth> ahhh.
  • [22:20:19] <jkridner|work> I'm having a little headache with squeak: http://pastebin.com/m1837e712
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  • [22:20:46] <jkridner|work> not sure why it says it needs the plugin, when it is clearly there after the install.
  • [22:22:39] <jkridner|work> using -plugin gets me to the point where it is looking for squeak.image.
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  • [22:56:19] <geckosenator> got my 80211N usb adapter today
  • [22:57:54] <geckosenator> doesn't look like linux recognized it
  • [23:01:03] <florian> re
  • [23:02:46] <geckosenator> should have just got the g one I guess
  • [23:02:53] <geckosenator> maybe I can write drivers :-P
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  • [23:05:21] <tharvey> geckosenator, what 802.11n USB adapter are you using?
  • [23:05:58] <geckosenator> edup
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  • [23:06:22] <tharvey> what chipset is in that?
  • [23:06:35] <geckosenator> realtek
  • [23:06:35] <tharvey> rtc8192u?
  • [23:06:43] <geckosenator> I think so
  • [23:06:50] <geckosenator> Bus 004 Device 007: ID 0bda:8192 Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
  • [23:07:05] <geckosenator> do you have it?
  • [23:07:48] <tharvey> no, but I'm interested in running 802.11a/b/g/n USB on OMAP/beagleboard - curious what people are using
  • [23:08:01] <tharvey> I'm interested in the Ubiquiti SR71USB (ath9k)
  • [23:09:20] <geckosenator> I am only curious in running it
  • [23:09:26] <geckosenator> I have no idea why I am trying
  • [23:09:46] <geckosenator> 300mbps is fast I guess, but I have no other hardware that is n to test it with
  • [23:10:02] <tharvey> not sure what the state of linux wireless is for realtek 8192
  • [23:10:23] <geckosenator> I'm going to try harder, it just didn't work right away
  • [23:10:28] <geckosenator> I got a usb ethernet dongle that did
  • [23:10:47] <geckosenator> Bus 003 Device 002: ID 0a46:9601 Davicom Semiconductor, Inc.
  • [23:11:08] <tharvey> those are more mainstream and better supported
  • [23:11:16] <geckosenator> yes
  • [23:11:52] <tharvey> I'm interested in anything 802.11* in SDIO/USB thats power efficient
  • [23:12:00] <geckosenator> I believe this is power efficient
  • [23:12:15] <geckosenator> I would like something more powerefficient for a harddrive
  • [23:12:20] <geckosenator> I have these 320gb external drives
  • [23:12:39] <geckosenator> I'm going to use them initially anyway, they get 25mb/s over high speed usb
  • [23:13:02] <geckosenator> need something other than sd card for more storage, and I don't think the sd card works well for swap, but maybe
  • [23:16:33] <geckosenator> for some reason my usb to pcmcia adapter locks up my computer sometimes in highspeed usb mode
  • [23:16:36] <geckosenator> makes it hard to use
  • [23:17:58] <tharvey> what are people using for wifi on OMAP3x/beagleboard?
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  • [23:21:18] <geckosenator> did you see the email:
  • [23:21:20] <geckosenator> I work on a school project using a USB-to-RS232 adapter and a USB Wifi key (zd1211) with the beagleboard.
  • [23:21:25] <geckosenator> maybe that works
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  • [23:23:05] <tharvey> ya, I've looked at zd1211 and rt73 - looking for something of a more recent generation thats more power efficient
  • [23:23:17] <tharvey> less power consumption per txpower
  • [23:31:17] <atin_> hey gecko, any luck with the monitor settings stuff?
  • [23:32:20] <atin_> I have basically given up - my monitor seems too finicky - anything but 1600x1200@60 gives a "not optimal" message and you get back nothing. And since the beagle can't do 1600x1200@60, it doesn't work.
  • [23:32:41] <atin_> what I don't understand is what changed. It was showing Angstrom stuff just a few days ago and then something changed and now it doesn't work.
  • [23:32:56] <atin_> I think it was using 1024x768 when it was working, but now it doesn't.
  • [23:33:25] <atin_> some clocking issue I think . . .
  • [23:34:08] <atin_> so I've been futzing with bluetooth and hcitool/hcidump etc instead since I can actually see what is going on :)
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  • [23:34:33] <torus> hi folks.
  • [23:34:57] <atin_> I understand things like bits/bytes and register. when things get into frequency and clocks, I get a headache.
  • [23:36:11] <torus> I have a armv7 assembler question.. The CortexA8 ought to support non-aligned memory reads and writes, right? It works for LDR (checked that), but it seems to hang the beagleboard if I use LDMIA. Can anyone confirm this?
  • [23:38:40] <geckosenator> atin_: we need the ability to tweak monitor timings from userspace
  • [23:38:58] <geckosenator> atin_: I emailed the guy making the new dss and he says hes working on it
  • [23:39:16] <atin_> ok - cool. in the meantime I guess I keep recompiling the kernel.
  • [23:39:28] <geckosenator> I'm supposed to be able to pull directly from his git
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  • [23:39:36] <geckosenator> but it doesn't work, I get an error
  • [23:39:41] <atin_> does he already have it?
  • [23:39:44] <atin_> what error?
  • [23:39:53] <geckosenator> let me know if you can clone this
  • [23:39:55] <geckosenator> git clone http://www.bat.org/~tomba/git/linux-omap-dss.git/
  • [23:40:02] <atin_> sec
  • [23:40:17] <geckosenator> atin_: don't think so unless he wrote it yesterday
  • [23:40:27] <geckosenator> but he might have other stuff I can test
  • [23:43:39] <atin_> it seems to be getting it, tho it is doing a lot of walking and getting tags
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  • [23:45:47] <geckosenator> I know
  • [23:45:51] <geckosenator> then it fails eventually
  • [23:46:00] <geckosenator> and it actually caused the beagle to reset
  • [23:46:04] <geckosenator> which is a different problem
  • [23:46:42] <geckosenator> maybe I shorted my beagle though, I'm in a high-static environment
  • [23:46:50] <ds2> I wish the relevant people would talk to each other :/
  • [23:48:12] <atin_> I wonder why the values I calculate using http://www.tkk.fi/Misc/Electronics/faq/vga2rgb/calc.html are so off from the ones in omapfb_main.c for the same resolution and frequency
  • [23:49:00] <atin_> mainly the horizontal sync pulse width
  • [23:50:04] <atin_> all the numbers in omapfb_main.c are like 32, 64 etc, my calculation is coming back at 240
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  • [23:59:52] <mru> atin_: the omapfb numbers are just differences between the xorg numbers