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  • [02:16:44] <jkridner> finally. http://focus.ti.com/docs/prod/folders/print/tps65950.html
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  • [03:06:47] <Beagle4> +sn
  • [03:09:16] <Beagle4> #beagle
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  • [05:20:05] <shiv> Hi, does any one have an idea about current status of this bug http://groups.google.com/group/linux.kernel/browse_thread/thread/0280a0220e969023
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  • [10:56:46] <orangey> hey all!
  • [10:56:59] <orangey> Beagle doesn't seem to be indexing for me since I upgraded to ibex.
  • [10:57:04] <orangey> How can I force it to reindex?
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  • [11:40:08] <gcohler> Hi, I'm trying to build the beagleboard demo image, and I'm getting an error when building omapfbplay. It appears to be looking for omapfb.h and not finding it. The exact error message is: omapfbplay.c:40:38: error: asm-arm/arch-omap/omapfb.h: No such file or directory
  • [11:46:22] <ldesnogu> gcohler, isn't that related to include path changes that happened in the kernel? I know it doesn't help, but it might be a hint
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  • [11:48:07] <gcohler> ldesnogu_: Yes, that's my guess. I'm building with linux - omap and it looks like it used to look for that include file in mach/omapfb.h and that now it's looking for it in asm-arm/arch-omap. And it doesn't appear to be staged there.
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  • [11:49:18] <ldesnogu> gcohler, http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/76a500d9828bad39?fwc=1
  • [11:49:31] <ldesnogu> oups sorry
  • [11:49:37] <ldesnogu> it was you asking the question
  • [11:49:48] <ldesnogu> so I guess Koen's answer was not enough :)
  • [11:50:56] <gcohler> ldesnogu: I think I'm a lunkhead sometimes. You're right, I already ran across this in the past. Nevermind. :-)
  • [11:51:43] <gcohler> And thank you very much.
  • [11:56:29] <ldesnogu> heh np, I also keep on asking questions for which I already got answers :)
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  • [14:09:20] <otavio> Hello; I'm interested to buy a board but I'm living in Brazil. How could I do to buy one?
  • [14:09:52] <Crofton|work> otavio, www.digikey.com
  • [14:09:59] <Crofton|work> they ship internationally
  • [14:10:22] <otavio> oh! nice
  • [14:10:25] <otavio> checking it
  • [14:10:26] <Crofton|work> you might try asking on the beagle ml if anyone has ordered from Brazil
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  • [14:10:51] <Crofton|work> they might be able to help minimize shipping and duty costs
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  • [14:13:50] <nabax> otavio careful with the customs though
  • [14:14:01] <nabax> i had to pay 40 extra euros :'(
  • [14:15:02] <otavio> nabax: you're in Brazil too?
  • [14:16:11] <nabax> nope in spain
  • [14:16:35] <nabax> i just meant duty can be quite expensive :p
  • [14:18:26] <otavio> nabax: ah right; customs here are horrible
  • [14:18:35] <otavio> nabax: so I really know what you mean
  • [14:18:54] <nabax> lol
  • [14:19:19] <nabax> i bought the board thinking "wow! so cheap!"
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  • [14:19:54] <otavio> lol; it ended being expensive
  • [14:20:27] <nabax> well... i had to pay the damn customs, buy me a usb hub, a power adaptor, a DVI cable, an SD card, "e-buy" a mini-usb cable...
  • [14:20:31] <nabax> kinda expensive, yes x'D
  • [14:20:40] <nabax> but i learned a lot, that i must say
  • [14:21:03] <nabax> i couldn't almost eat for a month, but it was worth it x'D
  • [14:22:55] <jkridner> good morning all.
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  • [14:23:05] <superpop02> hello all
  • [14:23:15] <superpop02> i am beginner on beagle hardware
  • [14:23:39] <superpop02> and i have question about video transcoding features of beagle
  • [14:24:19] <superpop02> Do you known is possible to transcode on the fly a H.264 video stream with beagleboard DSP ?
  • [14:24:37] <jkridner> superpop02: depends on the resolution and what all else you are integrating.
  • [14:24:48] <jkridner> and what codecs you use.
  • [14:25:02] <superpop02> for a HD resolution with H.264
  • [14:25:06] <jkridner> I'm not aware of anyone doing a fixed solution for that right now.
  • [14:25:28] <jkridner> probably only at very few fps (frames per second)
  • [14:25:48] <superpop02> how much, 10 ?
  • [14:25:56] <jkridner> H.264 <--> H.264?
  • [14:26:03] <superpop02> yes
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  • [14:26:12] <Crofton|work> we should start a web page on international beagle ordering ....
  • [14:26:18] <superpop02> for a 1026 * 768 resolution
  • [14:26:31] <superpop02> and display the video stream on my HD tv
  • [14:26:37] <jkridner> 10 would sound pretty doable at 720P, if I were to eyeball it.
  • [14:26:40] <wiking> is there a way to continue yesterday's OE built today....... there's seem to be some fuckup with the dirs because they have a date suffix...
  • [14:26:52] <otavio> Crofton|work: it would be nice, indeed
  • [14:26:54] <jkridner> 1024x768 is smaller than the smallest HD (720P).
  • [14:27:08] <superpop02> do you think its possible ?
  • [14:27:12] <Crofton|work> wiking, what kind of problem
  • [14:28:05] <superpop02> do you have any URL , pointer about ffmpeg or gstreamer patch for beagleboard ?
  • [14:28:12] <jkridner> Crofton|work: I'd most be looking for the shipping prices and taxes. I've been asking Digi-Key about some way to do that, but I don't have specific ideas. Do you?
  • [14:28:31] <jkridner> FFmpeg is included in the Angstrom distribution.
  • [14:28:42] <wiking> Crofton|work, well it tries to find things in a dir in angstrom-version-1_2008.1-test-20081101-r1 when things are in angstrom-version-1_2008.1-test-20081031-r1
  • [14:28:49] <jkridner> You'd likely want to use DSP acceleration within GStreamer.
  • [14:28:55] <wiking> so how can i change the DISTRO_VERSION ?
  • [14:28:58] <superpop02> yes
  • [14:29:00] <Crofton|work> The best solution I know is a wiki page where people collect data points
  • [14:29:11] <superpop02> I want to use the DSP accelaration with ffmpeg or gstreamer
  • [14:29:24] <superpop02> to create a point to point HD conferencing solution
  • [14:29:24] <Crofton|work> hmm
  • [14:29:32] <Crofton|work> restarting the build does not work?
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  • [14:30:04] <wiking> Crofton|work, restarting... well i'm just trying to run bitbake console-image... but this is the result
  • [14:30:17] <codepope> Hello
  • [14:30:18] <Crofton|work> try bitbake -c clean ansgtrom-version-1
  • [14:30:18] <jkridner> Some of the applications team will be releasing GStreamer plug-ins that use the DSP in a couple of weeks with Codec Engine, but in the meantime, you can also use the OpenMax IL based plugins. felipec has instructions for that on the wiki and a pinned e-mail on the mailing list page.
  • [14:30:21] <Crofton|work> and restarting
  • [14:30:24] <wiking> and i definitely dont want to restart the whole build from the very beginning
  • [14:30:31] <wiking> as i created all the toolchain and everything
  • [14:30:43] <jkridner> http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/73457a485bc7afe6
  • [14:30:52] <wiking> and it would be stupid not to be able to continue where it stoped
  • [14:30:58] <wiking> when it's just really about 1 day shift...
  • [14:31:10] <wiking> i guess clean does a complete cleanup, or?
  • [14:31:16] <wiking> do i get my toolchain saved? :)
  • [14:31:18] <jkridner> http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard/DSP_Howto
  • [14:31:34] <Crofton|work> no, just cleans the package you are having troble with
  • [14:31:39] <wiking> ah ok
  • [14:31:44] <superpop02> does openmax is a opensource solution ?
  • [14:31:45] <codepope> Just trying to get my board up and running... just noticing that if I have my serial cable plugged in USR1 and USR0 don't light up till it's unplugged. Is that indicative of anything in general?
  • [14:32:12] <jkridner> the openmax IL solution is open source on the ARM side. DSP code is a binary image.
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  • [14:32:40] <wiking> Crofton|work, ERROR: Nothing PROVIDES 'ansgtrom-version-1'
  • [14:32:54] <codepope> (Apart from that is, my serial connection isn't working....)
  • [14:33:00] <Crofton|work> try just angstrom-version
  • [14:33:11] <Crofton|work> http://gnuradio.org/trac/wiki/Gcell
  • [14:33:24] <Crofton|work> we need someone to create gdsp :)
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  • [14:33:49] <wiking> codepope, well bb suxx
  • [14:33:55] <wiking> codepope, do you have an ohm meter?
  • [14:34:05] <codepope> yes
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  • [14:34:17] <superpop02> ok
  • [14:34:33] <superpop02> Does I need to buy the DSP image ?
  • [14:34:46] <wiking> superpop02, no
  • [14:34:57] <wiking> superpop02, you can just create your own doff files or dlls
  • [14:35:16] <wiking> follow the instructions :P
  • [14:35:25] <superpop02> ok thanks
  • [14:35:55] <superpop02> so, its possible to transcode a HD stream in the 2 ways with this solution ?
  • [14:37:05] <wiking> weeeelll
  • [14:37:13] <wiking> the thing is that the images that they give to you
  • [14:37:16] <jkridner|work> my guess is that you'd get the most performance by doing encode on the DSP and decode on the ARM...
  • [14:37:17] <wiking> for the dsp
  • [14:37:25] <felipec> wtf, the public dsp compiler generates bad binaries
  • [14:37:31] <wiking> felipec, :DDDD
  • [14:37:38] <wiking> happens
  • [14:37:52] <jkridner|work> felipec: i hadn't heard this before.
  • [14:38:04] <jkridner|work> do we need to upgrade the free DSP compiler to a newer version?
  • [14:38:19] <wiking> jkridner|work, afaik dsp DEcode is only available from TI of h264
  • [14:38:21] <jkridner|work> is there a version of compiler that is working for you?
  • [14:39:06] <jkridner|work> wiking: thanks, good point. You'd likely have to buy the H.264 encoder for the DSP.
  • [14:39:15] <wiking> hehe
  • [14:39:18] <wiking> no i wouldnt
  • [14:39:27] <wiking> cant exactly understand the policies behind this
  • [14:39:33] <jkridner|work> Ingenient, Ittiam, TI, probably all sell one.
  • [14:39:37] <felipec> jkridner|work: I could swear it was working before
  • [14:39:45] <jkridner|work> :) well, superpop02 might.
  • [14:39:54] <wiking> :D
  • [14:40:00] <felipec> jkridner|work: actually the free version is newer than the closed one I have
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  • [14:40:21] <jkridner|work> felipec: bug reports welcome. :)
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  • [14:40:58] <felipec> actually there isn't any h264 support in the public binaries
  • [14:41:09] <felipec> only mpeg4 decoding
  • [14:41:12] <wiking> yep
  • [14:41:18] <superpop02> mpeg2 ts ?
  • [14:41:43] <jkridner|work> FYI, for people doing DSP code, this is a handy library: http://focus.ti.com/docs/toolsw/folders/print/sprc265.html
  • [14:41:44] <wiking> Crofton|work, same thing.... i mean that i get the same error after the successful clean :P
  • [14:41:53] <Crofton|work> crap
  • [14:42:00] <Crofton|work> try asking in #oe
  • [14:42:13] <wiking> jkridner|work, what about the video accel part of the iva2+ ? :P
  • [14:42:34] <wiking> is that ever going to be released.... i mean specs or something that we could use it?
  • [14:42:57] <superpop02> ok thanks you
  • [14:42:58] <superpop02> bye
  • [14:43:59] <jkridner|work> wiking: I don't know. Of course, I'm an advocate for releasing the specs, but there are some good reasons not to release them and we have to work through those.
  • [14:44:08] <felipec> it's funny that TI releases stuff to the public without even testing them
  • [14:44:37] <ldesnogu> felipec, what is broken in the free DSP compiler exactly?
  • [14:44:37] <jkridner|work> I think if people were developing more code on the DSP, then TI would be more inclined to go further and open up the accelerators too.
  • [14:44:54] <wiking> jkridner|work, is it true though that those binaries you've rlsed in tiopenmax are using these parts of IVA2+?
  • [14:45:05] <jkridner|work> felipec: what wasn't tested? The C compiler? The free C compiler was tested.
  • [14:45:13] <felipec> ldesnogu: I don't know, when I try to run the dsp node it says it's invalid
  • [14:45:34] <ldesnogu> felipec, did you check the resulting COFF file?
  • [14:45:54] <felipec> jkridner|work: the public binaries for example, and now it seems the compiler
  • [14:45:57] <wiking> jkridner|work, is there unix version of that link you gave me.... it's an .exe :D
  • [14:46:07] <jkridner|work> wiking: I'm not aware if the codecs released as part of openmax are using IVA.
  • [14:46:13] <wiking> hmm
  • [14:46:14] <wiking> funny
  • [14:46:25] <felipec> ldesnogu: check how?
  • [14:46:26] <wiking> so there's again a part of the omap3 that is unused :D
  • [14:46:35] * codepope diagnoses problem as lack of power to the board here.
  • [14:46:44] <wiking> codepope, ah maaaan
  • [14:46:46] <ldesnogu> felipec, compare the headers from the non-free and free compilers
  • [14:46:47] <wiking> totally forgot
  • [14:46:59] <wiking> free compilers? which one? :)
  • [14:47:04] <ldesnogu> I mean in the generated file
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  • [14:47:19] <wiking> codepope, so for me the following is helping when the serial is stuck on bb
  • [14:47:48] <ldesnogu> wiking, TI released free DSP compilers for Linux for developers of free softwqre
  • [14:48:21] <wiking> codepope, use 200 ohm resistance on your ohmeter (meaning you are just checking that whether there is connection between the two points or not) and 'connect' DB9 pin 1 and TP22
  • [14:49:14] <jkridner|work> wiking: are you talking about Code Composer Studio? which link to an .EXE are you talking about?
  • [14:49:35] <wiking> jkridner|work, you've gave this link http://focus.ti.com/docs/toolsw/folders/print/sprc265.html
  • [14:50:11] <jkridner|work> wiking: the only link to the code that I've found says to get the code as part of CCS.
  • [14:50:18] <jkridner|work> I don't even see the link to the .EXE.
  • [14:50:22] <wiking> ldesnogu, ah you mean the C6x compiler
  • [14:50:39] <wiking> jkridner|work, there's a zip there.... :P
  • [14:51:04] <jkridner|work> ah.
  • [14:51:07] <jkridner|work> the download button.
  • [14:51:22] <wiking> yep
  • [14:51:46] <felipec> ldesnogu: you mean compare the binaries? they're completely different, only the first two bytes are the same
  • [14:52:03] <jkridner|work> wiking: thanks, I'll get a unix version made.
  • [14:52:16] <wiking> jkridner|work, cool :)
  • [14:52:22] <wiking> thnx
  • [14:53:03] <wiking> felipec, you are quite experience with getting the dspbridge working.... any idea why do i get a -1 error from insmod ?
  • [14:54:36] <felipec> wiking: wrong consistent dma config? bad kernel version?
  • [14:54:38] * codepope will need finer tips on his meter to get at TP22.... I'll go get a fresh null modem cable (as I hacked up the one I had) and have a go with proper volts running over it
  • [14:55:01] <wiking> # [17:10:15] <wiking> "coherent allocation too big (requested 0x400000 mask 0xffffffff)"
  • [14:55:01] <wiking> # [17:10:15] <wiking> "insmod: cannot insert 'bridgedriver.ko': Operation not permitted (-1): Operation not permitted"
  • [14:55:24] <wiking> felipec, i dont use CONFIG_MODVERSIONS
  • [14:55:45] <wiking> codepope, hahahahh you dont have to be that fine.... trust me
  • [14:55:56] <wiking> codepope, that little volt u put on the board will not harm anything...
  • [14:56:02] <felipec> wiking: yeah, you need CONFIG_FB_OMAP_CONSISTENT_DMA_SIZE=14
  • [14:56:08] <wiking> felipec, got that
  • [14:56:22] <codepope> What will it tell me anyway wiking?
  • [14:56:29] <wiking> codepope, NOTHING
  • [14:56:39] <wiking> codepope, but it puts a bit of a volt on your RX line of omap
  • [14:56:43] <wiking> that how i get it work
  • [14:56:48] <codepope> Oh right...
  • [14:56:52] <felipec> wiking: you have your kernel compiled with that?
  • [14:56:53] <wiking> i had this strange errata #8 on my board
  • [14:56:58] <wiking> felipec, yeps
  • [14:57:10] <wiking> codepope, i did not wanted to use RMA
  • [14:57:25] <wiking> so i tried to figure out things.... and this helped me to get the RX line working
  • [14:57:33] <wiking> dont ask why... i'm not an EE
  • [14:57:51] <wiking> but it certainly does the job for me.... as still sometimes my RX line gets stuck
  • [14:58:23] <codepope> Ok, well... I need to eliminate the other cables first, so I'll add that to my notes as what to try if this is looking E8y
  • [14:58:59] <felipec> wiking: the only time I got that was because I was using the wrong kernel
  • [14:59:58] <wiking> codepope, ok... good luck with it..... the best tip to test your cable: connect pin 2 and pin 3 on the end of your DB9 plug
  • [15:00:14] <wiking> and start minicom.... start typing.... if everything comes back you are ok
  • [15:00:15] <wiking> :)
  • [15:00:26] <wiking> felipec, hmm strange
  • [15:00:52] <wiking> codepope, s/cable/cables/g
  • [15:01:49] <wiking> felipec, thnx... i'll try to doublecheck things here...
  • [15:03:27] <felipec> wiking: I had the right config, and I was copying the kernel to the mmc, but it took me a while to figure out that u-boot was using another kernel =/
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  • [15:08:29] <felipec> jkridner|work: the link to the 'Linux hosted C6x Code Generation Tools' isn't working anymore =/
  • [15:08:45] <jkridner|work> I saw that yesterday too. :(
  • [15:08:58] <jkridner|work> I've sent a request to the owner to fix it.
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  • [15:17:06] <felipec> jkridner|work: apparently the 6.1.x series are quite different from 6.0.x, maybe they are incompatible... or maybe I'm missing something that the xdctools should do
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  • [15:34:04] <felipec> ldesnogu: http://people.freedesktop.org/~felipec/dsp/
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  • [15:39:10] <felipec> ldesnogu: but I'm not using xdctools: http://github.com/felipec/dsp-dummy
  • [15:39:35] <ldesnogu> felipec, was the source assembly or C ?
  • [15:40:18] <shri420> has anyone used mmc2?
  • [15:40:40] <jkridner|work> felipec: can you provide test input files?
  • [15:43:29] <ldesnogu> felipec, my COFF tool found 6 sections in the good file and 7 in the bad; the good contains relocations, while the bad doesn't
  • [15:43:46] <ldesnogu> more on that once I am done cleaning the house :)
  • [15:44:06] <felipec> ldesnogu: there's a c file and an asm file, which was supposed to be generated by xdctools
  • [15:44:34] <felipec> ldesnogu: hmm, interesting, I'll check the options
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  • [16:14:30] <[X]Spot> hi all
  • [16:14:33] <[X]Spot> do you know
  • [16:14:33] <[X]Spot> how can I see the major/minor number of a device???
  • [16:14:54] <TangerineTriode> ls -l
  • [16:15:33] <[X]Spot> I mean a device which does not have device file
  • [16:16:03] <[X]Spot> I would like to create the device file myself (because it's missing)
  • [16:18:19] <robclark> something like cat /proc/deviceinfo I think
  • [16:19:39] <robclark> or maybe /proc/devices
  • [16:19:57] <robclark> (don't have my board in front of me, but it's something like that)
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  • [16:28:02] <ldesnogu> [X]Spot, if you have the source of the driver, look for defines containing MAJOR and MINOR
  • [16:28:37] <robclark> (unless it gets the major dynamically)
  • [16:29:42] <robclark> if you have the driver src, and it uses alloc_chrdev_region(), it gets the device number dynamically
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  • [16:34:55] <felipec> hmm, v2.6.28-rc2-5184-g03e22c4 doesn't boot
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  • [16:50:12] <[X]Spot> ok
  • [16:50:13] <[X]Spot> thanks
  • [16:50:16] <[X]Spot> i'll check
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  • [17:00:43] <beewoolie> Greetings.
  • [17:01:56] <beewoolie> I'm looking for PDFs of the schematics that are readable when magnified. The pages in the HRM PDF aren't quite high resolution enough.
  • [17:02:48] <beewoolie> Have these been posted? ..for those without ORCAD...
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  • [21:04:51] <Ragha> when Linux boots up on my beagle my ubuntu PC network goes off and i end up in reboot. any idea how do i prevent this.
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  • [21:11:38] <wiking> Ragha, well since the usb gadget is activated i guess and i guess u use network manager....
  • [21:13:08] <Ragha> yes, i want to disable at my PC side to ignore USB network
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  • [22:17:37] <roberto> good night - sleep well ! :-)
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