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  • [00:09:49] <Fl1pFl0p> Sundar; yes
  • [00:10:08] <Fl1pFl0p> l/p: root
  • [00:10:18] <Fl1pFl0p> no pass
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  • [00:56:59] <vlad_> is 2.6.24.7-omap1-arm2 available anywhere, and is it a crappy kernel for the beagle?
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  • [01:07:05] <vlad_> nvm, found it
  • [01:10:15] <Fl1pFl0p> anyone have a 'ZD1211' driver for usb wifi that runs on angstrom?
  • [01:19:14] <vlad_> blah, struct module really did change
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  • [01:41:59] <robclark> hmm, maybe I'm nuts, but I think I may have actually managed to get omap-linux kernel compiling on macosx...
  • [01:42:36] <robclark> at least it is to the cross-compiling part, past the stuff in the scripts directory, which seems to be all the stuff that really wants a linux host..
  • [01:42:51] <vlad_> nice
  • [01:42:57] <robclark> (of course whether the kernel actually works, remains to be seen)
  • [01:43:20] <robclark> (but if it did, it would sure beat vmware)
  • [01:43:35] <vlad_> should work, once it finishes compiling
  • [01:43:46] <vlad_> the kernel compile doesn't depend on anything locally installed
  • [01:44:09] <robclark> that is my theory too... but I won't declare victory until it boots ;-)
  • [01:44:10] <vlad_> that's not a bad idea, really; I should look into setting up a cross environment natively under OSX
  • [01:44:15] <vlad_> fair enough :)
  • [01:44:38] <robclark> well, if it works, tomorrow I'll update the BeagleFAQ page with instructions
  • [01:45:01] <robclark> main part is install libelf (via macports), and gsed (gnu sed) also via macports
  • [01:45:11] <robclark> and then take some parts from elf.h on a linux machine
  • [01:45:44] <robclark> (oh yeah, and take the gnu cross compiler built for macosx/intel, which I put on the BeagleFAQ page a while back)
  • [01:49:19] <robclark> well, gets to the end and then: "mkimage" command not found...
  • [01:49:27] <robclark> but close, at least
  • [01:50:16] <vlad_> yeah, that's fine
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  • [01:50:20] <vlad_> you need to just get mkimage
  • [01:52:58] <robclark> any idea where? (googling now)
  • [01:53:16] <vlad_> I think it's part of uboot
  • [01:53:34] <robclark> ok
  • [01:53:44] <robclark> yeah, probably don't have that installed yet
  • [01:54:37] <vlad_> yeah, just grab the uboot source, it's in the tools dir
  • [01:54:44] <vlad_> just a single .c file, has a dependency on an included .h file
  • [01:55:03] <robclark> oh, yeah, actually I have it already, just need to compile it..
  • [01:58:02] <robclark> ok, I need to eat... I'll play with this after dinner ;-)
  • [01:58:33] <wiking> hmm
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  • [01:59:12] <wiking> is it normal that like using 4 times the nand (file system area) i got like 100+ bad blocks?
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  • [02:00:49] <geist> i dont think that'd be terribly out of the ordinary
  • [02:01:02] <geist> nand will come with quite a few bad blocks out of the factory
  • [02:01:34] <wiking> well it came with about 5
  • [02:01:38] <wiking> and since i'm trying to use it
  • [02:01:42] <wiking> i got 100+
  • [02:01:53] <geist> hmm, well that seems a little high
  • [02:02:05] <wiking> but anyways seems something is very wrong
  • [02:02:12] <wiking> since i get strange kernel panics
  • [02:02:18] <geist> yah
  • [02:02:39] <wiking> and always when i try to use the nand
  • [02:03:03] <geist> yeah, the problem is liekly something else, and the blocks are falsely labelled bad
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  • [02:03:43] <wiking> scrub would get it back?
  • [02:04:02] <geist> dunno
  • [02:04:41] <wiking> yep seems that way
  • [02:04:42] <wiking> :>
  • [02:04:47] <geist> good good
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  • [02:46:58] <robclark> ok, well after a few patches (add missing #include <sys/types.h> and don't use fdatasync if defined(__APPLE__), I can build u-boot at least far enough to get a working mkimage on macosx
  • [02:47:02] <robclark> and now I have a kernel
  • [02:47:17] <robclark> (and part of a patch for the u-boot guys)
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  • [03:06:37] <robclark> ohh, and now I even have a full u-boot build from macosx...
  • [03:07:13] <robclark> ok, kernel and u-boot.. I think that's good progress for one night.. time for sleep
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  • [08:57:56] <geckosenator> what is the status of the video driver?
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  • [08:58:41] <kulve> what video driver?
  • [08:59:20] <geckosenator> egl
  • [09:00:48] <kulve> status hasn't changed
  • [09:03:44] <geckosenator> heh
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  • [09:11:07] <odikrause> guys, as mini-a seems to be officially retired (at least here in europe) would a mini-B OTG also do?
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  • [09:57:25] <kulve> odikrause: no
  • [09:57:51] <kulve> it has to have pins 4 and 5 connected together
  • [09:59:17] <odikrause> any Idea where to get such a cable in Europe/the Netherlands?
  • [09:59:39] <adj_> ebay?
  • [10:00:08] <adj_> I bought my cables from a british ebay dealer
  • [10:00:12] <kulve> our sales dude brought 10 of them from his asian trip :)
  • [10:00:56] <odikrause> last time I tried ebay, I ended up in getting a mini-B cable :(
  • [10:01:26] <adj_> odikrause: mee too, some dealer from hong kong was selling mini-B as a mini-A
  • [10:01:40] <odikrause> http://cgi.ebay.nl/OTG-Host-USB-Mini-A-Male-to-Female-B-Connector-Cable_W0QQitemZ170270409046QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item170270409046&_trksid=p3286.m63.l1177
  • [10:01:43] <odikrause> this guy, I guess
  • [10:01:48] <odikrause> :-)
  • [10:01:56] <kulve> actually I bought 10 of them from a finnish shop in the internet and also got mini-b cables
  • [10:02:13] <AV500> http://www.amazon.co.uk/review/product/B000EORX7U
  • [10:02:15] <adj_> odikrause: thats the guy
  • [10:02:44] <AV500> but the reviewers say it's not good :-(
  • [10:03:58] <odikrause> what about this one: http://www.misco.nl/productinformation/~10073033~WW~/ACT%20USB%20A-Mini%20A%20M/M%20kabel%201.8m%20zwart.htm
  • [10:04:04] <adj_> odikrause: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/USB-OTG-Cable-Transparent-Type-Mini-A-to-Type-B-0-5m_W0QQitemZ310026143416QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item310026143416&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1300%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318
  • [10:04:17] <odikrause> would it work if I have a gender switch?
  • [10:05:43] <adj_> forget gender changers, they're evil and should not even exist
  • [10:07:06] <odikrause> I heard something like this before
  • [10:07:08] <adj_> shahnaz05 @ ebay.co.uk has few different type of mini-a cables but unfortunately no mini-a to std-a female :(
  • [10:08:08] <AV500> there is also this one:
  • [10:08:10] <AV500> http://www.archos.com/store/gsearch.html?country=de&lang=de&fam_id=AUSB0050
  • [10:08:25] <AV500> scroll down to USB Host-Kabel, 14.99???
  • [10:08:43] <odikrause> USB Host-Kabel (Mini A m?nnl./A weibl.)
  • [10:08:43] <odikrause> Zum Anschluss eines Massenspeicher-Ger?tes an den USB Host-Port Ihres ARCHOS
  • [10:08:43] <odikrause> 14.99 ?
  • [10:08:55] <AV500> yep
  • [10:08:56] <odikrause> fett. 14.99
  • [10:09:02] <odikrause> und dann noch versandkosten nach NL
  • [10:09:04] <odikrause> aiya
  • [10:09:16] <odikrause> hate.
  • [10:09:26] <AV500> you can also buy a player, it will be included :-)
  • [10:11:30] <odikrause> LOL
  • [10:11:36] <odikrause> good plan
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  • [10:15:10] <odikrause> ich glaub, dann ist http://www.yoss.de/cgi-bin/yosst.htm?shop=10 noch sicherer
  • [10:20:09] <AV500> this one could also work, but there is something strange. The HAMA cable is supposed to be mini-A and it does work with our players.
  • [10:20:39] <AV500> But, our players have a dedicated usb-host port and ignore the ID pin. So it could be that some of these cables miss the ID->GND connection
  • [10:20:53] <AV500> which would explain the negative reviews about the HAMA cable
  • [10:21:41] <AV500> OTOH, I could use our (Archos) cable to connect a mouse to the ZOOM
  • [10:22:26] <AV500> and the trisoft cable looks alot like the HAMA one coz it has the white mini-a plug
  • [10:23:31] <odikrause> comeon guys, the trisoft thingy is on the official beagle board website and now I ordered it
  • [10:23:47] <AV500> OK, so it does work then I guess
  • [10:23:47] <odikrause> please, dont say this is wasted money
  • [10:24:05] <AV500> nono
  • [10:24:20] <AV500> I am just puzzled why people claim that the HAMA one does not work for the,
  • [10:24:21] <AV500> I am just puzzled why people claim that the HAMA one does not work for them
  • [10:26:58] <odikrause> okay, I called him, its not a HAMA
  • [10:27:08] <AV500> good
  • [10:27:16] <AV500> so, go connect! :-)
  • [10:27:17] <odikrause> and the zaurus has the same miniA/B shit as the beagleboard
  • [10:27:24] <odikrause> go wait for shipping!
  • [10:27:27] <odikrause> yey
  • [10:29:57] <odikrause> it's kinda sad that digikey does not put the cable into the beaglebord box
  • [10:30:23] <odikrause> like it is now, it feels like a expensive way to light up an LED
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  • [10:37:17] <kulve> it's a clear deal, you get only the board. Otherwise you could start arguing that there needs to be also the HDMI cable. And serial cable. And ..
  • [10:37:50] <koen> the trisoft cable works
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  • [10:53:51] <odikrause> its a clear deal, for sure however, its a difference if you can actually order the neccessary cable easily or you have to treasure hunt for it.
  • [10:55:38] <odikrause> not even digikey has it in it's program
  • [10:56:08] <kulve> I admit that it would be easier if they would have it..
  • [10:57:55] <odikrause> well, I orded it now, I'm happily waiting, and I will not complain anymore. But at least for the Netherlands I can say, I tried most shops available. Noone even has heard of it
  • [10:58:58] <kulve> same in Finland
  • [10:59:05] <adj_> the whole OTG connector is a mess in general, not just with beagle
  • [10:59:46] <adj_> the USB implementors forum has deprecated mini-a and mini-ab almost a year and half ago
  • [10:59:48] <odikrause> so it could be a step in a golden future, if more devices support it
  • [11:00:04] <odikrause> well, ... no.
  • [11:00:54] <adj_> the replacement connector is micro-a (and micro-ab) but i've not yet managed to find a single micro-a connector
  • [11:01:52] <adj_> sorry, one nokia handsfree headset does actually have mini-a but that does not help much
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  • [11:02:30] <odikrause> probably not
  • [11:02:40] <odikrause> lounch
  • [11:11:03] <zuh> We had a sales guy purge two shops of their stock of mini-a cables on a sales trip to asia last week... Just in case :)
  • [11:14:58] <jsync> is the 4bitmmc.diff patch available in the openembedded still required for the latest omap kernel ?
  • [11:20:19] <jsync> i dont see its related code in the latest kernel.
  • [11:27:55] <LoneMeow> zuh, oh we did? good
  • [11:28:14] <LoneMeow> I'm just waiting for revC to be available before I order...
  • [11:29:05] <kulve> LoneMeow: yeah, we did, they are in my drawer :)
  • [11:29:29] <LoneMeow> how many did we get?-)
  • [11:29:54] <kulve> I still have 5 of them left
  • [11:34:16] <simon42> it arrived! it arrived! :-)
  • [11:34:33] <simon42> it's soooo cute :-)
  • [11:39:19] <odikrause> congratulations.
  • [11:45:58] <AV500> is it a boy or a girl :-)
  • [11:46:22] <simon42> it's a... beagle?!
  • [11:48:06] <simon42> and like so many others I don't have a cable for usb host... :-/
  • [11:48:38] <odikrause> http://www.yoss.de/cgi-bin/yosst.htm?shop=10 they are very friendly
  • [11:48:56] <simon42> for now I just bridge the 2 pins
  • [11:49:03] <simon42> don't want to wait that long :-)
  • [11:49:22] <odikrause> how do you bridge them - its so small?!
  • [11:52:09] <simon42> it's one of the biggest components on the whole board... :-)
  • [11:55:35] <odikrause> well, lucky you, i dont have the tools to do that
  • [11:57:32] <AV500> isnt there a way to tell the USB to go into host mode? without the ID pin?
  • [12:02:09] * zuh watches kulve play Giana Sisters (VICE) with a USB joystick on beagle
  • [12:02:23] <zuh> I guess that's a good way to spend a friday afternoon at work...
  • [12:02:25] <zuh> ;)
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  • [12:07:08] <odikrause> Q: How can I force the USB OTG port to act like a host?
  • [12:07:08] <odikrause> A: At kernel command line do
  • [12:07:08] <odikrause> echo host> /sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc/mode
  • [12:07:18] <odikrause> found that - does it work?
  • [12:08:52] <florian> odikrause: yes.. if you use a very up to date kernel it is fixed to host anyway.
  • [12:09:13] <odikrause> but not with a mini-b cable,rite?
  • [12:09:48] <florian> you need an otg cable imho
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  • [12:12:51] <odikrause> doesn't seem to work
  • [12:13:10] <odikrause> cat gives a b_idle or b_periheral
  • [12:15:39] <koen> kulve: I suddenly realize that the evm really needs the downscaling :)
  • [12:16:01] <koen> zuh: your XV driver behaves the same on beagle and evm
  • [12:17:26] <LoneMeow> has anyone managed to use downscaling with omap3 dispc?
  • [12:17:41] <LoneMeow> we tried setting the registers up exactly as per documentation yet it wasn't very happy...
  • [12:19:45] <koen> LoneMeow: maybe mru played with it
  • [12:20:08] <LoneMeow> would be interested in hearing if it even *should* work
  • [12:20:58] <LoneMeow> hardware bugs don't seem too rare in these ES chips :P
  • [12:21:19] * koen worked with ep93xx chips
  • [12:21:32] <kulve> we have ES3.0 hw but with TI dss and zuh's XV doesn't work with it
  • [12:21:33] <koen> more errata than people living in beijing
  • [12:22:06] <LoneMeow> kulve, mmyea and that was the device you can't boot a custom kernel on or what?
  • [12:22:52] <kulve> LoneMeow: I guess linux-omap should run on zoom
  • [12:22:53] <koen> I have a es3.0 beagle and es 2.x evm
  • [12:23:00] <kulve> koen: oh
  • [12:23:11] <kulve> would you like to test the downscaling?
  • [12:23:15] <koen> sure
  • [12:25:30] <kulve> http://tuomas.kulve.fi/tmp/0001-Implement-downsampling-with-debugs.patch
  • [12:25:39] <kulve> I get irq loop with it
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  • [12:28:01] <Beagle4> im getting a /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgio-2.0
  • [12:28:18] <kulve> install newer glib that has gio?
  • [12:30:26] <Beagle4> er, this is a new image...try install glib :), thx
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  • [12:40:32] <koen> kulve: I'll give that a try after lunch
  • [12:40:52] <kulve> koen: thanks :)
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  • [12:48:34] <jkridner> good morning all
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  • [12:53:51] <odikrause> any idea why the screen would flicker on and of in angstrom?
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  • [13:07:12] <robclark> so, I managed to build the kernel (from http://git.omapzoom.org/repo/omapkernel) on macosx... but "Bad Magic Number"
  • [13:07:39] <robclark> is the magic number coming from mkimage, or is it embedded in the Image file?
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  • [13:18:35] <odikrause> okay, reason found. mouse and monitor suck too much energy
  • [13:18:48] <odikrause> with a connected usb hub, it works
  • [13:19:15] <odikrause> btw. grounding pin4 really works - I use now a mini-b cable as OTG :)
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  • [13:25:28] <Crofton|work> jkridner, gm
  • [13:25:46] <jkridner|work> how have things been for the last 5 weeks while I was on the road?
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  • [13:25:54] <jkridner|work> did your SDR Forum presentation go well?
  • [13:25:55] <Crofton|work> jkridner, how was ESC
  • [13:25:59] <Crofton|work> very well
  • [13:26:04] <jkridner|work> great.
  • [13:26:07] <Crofton|work> lots of interest
  • [13:26:13] <jkridner|work> the hands-on sessions were overflowing.
  • [13:26:18] <Crofton|work> awesome
  • [13:26:52] <jkridner|work> I'm currently swamped with e-mail that will take me a while to dig my way out.
  • [13:27:14] <Crofton|work> heh
  • [13:27:21] <Crofton|work> I fought to keep mine under control
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  • [13:31:40] <Crofton|work> anyone know if we can saturate the usb bus in device mode?
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  • [13:34:03] <nooomem> anyone dealt with Special Computing before? I ordered their case and I haven't recieved any tracking number even after a week.
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  • [13:36:51] <jkridner|work> nooomem: I haven't had any issues with them replying to customers yet. The owner was at ESC this week and might be slow responding due to that.
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  • [13:38:49] <ds2> morning
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  • [13:40:18] <nooomem> cool, hopefully I'll hear back next week
  • [13:40:39] <jkridner|work> morning ds2.
  • [13:41:13] <ds2> still at esc?
  • [13:41:51] <nooomem> is that in boston or silicon valley?
  • [13:41:59] <jkridner|work> I'm back home in Houston.
  • [13:42:05] <jkridner|work> Boston just finished up.
  • [13:42:12] <jkridner|work> SV is at the end of March.
  • [13:43:00] <jkridner|work> We had an all-day Beagle class as well as about a dozen more classes for people with Beagle Boards.
  • [13:43:31] <nooomem> wow, very cool.
  • [13:44:02] <ds2> is had enuff surprises to make it very realistic ;)
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  • [13:52:32] <koen> oh dear, nokia is using 2008q3
  • [13:53:19] <jkridner|work> w/o patches?
  • [13:53:30] <koen> no idea
  • [13:53:36] <jkridner|work> where did you get that info?
  • [13:53:43] <koen> linux-omap ml
  • [13:53:46] <jkridner|work> ah.
  • [13:54:03] <LoneMeow> how bad is mainline gcc btw?
  • [13:54:11] <koen> gcc 4.3.2 should be fine
  • [13:54:21] <LoneMeow> seeing how these recent CS releases have been rather... untested, I'm almost tempted to try a mainline gcc
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  • [13:54:33] <koen> the complete userspace in the angstrom demo image is compiled with vanilla 4.3.1 + neon patch
  • [13:59:45] * koen builds an evm kernel with the downscaling patch
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  • [14:07:54] <robclark> well, for any macosx users out there, I've managed to build a booting kernel... just had to fix a few bugs in u-boot (really in mkimage), and now it boots
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  • [14:10:44] <jkridner|work> were the bugs in u-boot mkimage program itself?
  • [14:10:46] <jkridner|work> any patches?
  • [14:11:14] <robclark> one or two missing #includes, and a missing msync() call which was resulting in a bad hdr
  • [14:11:29] <robclark> I have a patch (against u-boot v1.1.4 that I got from omapzoom site)
  • [14:11:30] <nooomem> anyone think there might be a problem getting booted up on a 16 GB sdhc card?
  • [14:11:37] <robclark> not sure who to send it too
  • [14:15:31] <robclark> can I attach small files to the BeagleBoardFAQ (a header and the u-boot patch)?
  • [14:16:25] <koen> kulve, zuh: with the downscaling patch I can play duvel.mpg on evm without framebuffer corruption
  • [14:17:15] <LoneMeow> koen, it downscales ok?
  • [14:17:27] <kulve> koen: ?mm.. You mean that you can use xvimagesink and resize the window to a smaller size..?
  • [14:18:36] <koen> kulve: mplayer -nosound -vo xv duvel.mpg does what it's supposed to do :)
  • [14:18:54] <koen> kulve: it used to give me a black window and started to corrupt the framebuffer
  • [14:19:22] <kulve> do you get an X window with that..? So you could resize it with a mouse..?
  • [14:19:29] <jkridner|work> robclark: why are you working against 1.1.4?
  • [14:20:12] <robclark> well, that is just the src tree I had... actually I'm using the u-boot that was already on my board (which was v1.1.4... it's an SDP, not a beagle :-( )
  • [14:20:12] <koen> omapfb omapfb: out_width 384 out_height 288 orig_width 352 orig_height 288 fir_hinc 938 fir_vinc 0
  • [14:20:36] <robclark> but I guess I should check a newer u-boot to see if it's mkimage still has the same issues
  • [14:20:38] <kulve> koen: the hw seems to be able to upsample up to 8x and to downsample to 4x. If you try more, it will return EINVAL and everything goes boom
  • [14:21:11] <kulve> koen: that scales it up, it should have worked before the patch too
  • [14:21:33] <LoneMeow> at least with the other patch applied that re-enables scaling at all
  • [14:21:56] <kulve> yeah
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  • [14:23:49] <robclark> jkridner|work: btw, which u-boot *should* I use
  • [14:24:16] <jkridner|work> see http://beagleboard.org/project/U-Boot+(V1)/
  • [14:24:57] <robclark> maybe a bit OT, but will that work on LDP and SDP too?
  • [14:25:07] <jkridner|work> the behavior I'd like to push is for people to look at http://beagleboard.org/project to find where the tips of the development trees are for the Beagle Board.
  • [14:25:24] <robclark> ok
  • [14:25:34] <jkridner|work> robclark: good question. I don't know if they are merged or not.
  • [14:25:43] <jkridner|work> we should all meet-up at denx.de.
  • [14:25:59] <nooomem> anyone heard of using a 16 gb sdhc card in the beagleboard?
  • [14:26:43] <koen> kulve: resizing the mplayer window works great
  • [14:27:05] <kulve> to both directions? Smaller/larger?
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  • [14:27:15] <kulve> I would be (partly) amazed if it would work :)
  • [14:27:38] <koen> both directions
  • [14:27:38] <kulve> koen: want to test the same with ES3.0 beagle?
  • [14:27:43] <kulve> cool :)
  • [14:27:51] <koen> I'm building a beagle kernel as we speak :)
  • [14:28:08] <kulve> I tried debugging it a lot without results. Looks like changing the hw helps :)
  • [14:31:51] <koen> kulve: http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/OE/evm.txt
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  • [14:33:00] <koen> kulve: I suspect the stride issues will be gone as well
  • [14:33:12] <LoneMeow> I guess the older es2.x hardware is broken for downscaling
  • [14:33:31] <koen> es 2.x omap3evm seemed to work :)
  • [14:33:37] <LoneMeow> hmm, interesting
  • [14:33:52] <LoneMeow> es2.x beagle does not from what I've seen...
  • [14:34:02] <kulve> is there a difference in the .x ?
  • [14:34:45] <kulve> koen: does it work if you downsample in X and upsample in Y (or vice versa)?
  • [14:35:15] <LoneMeow> (that definitely should not work)
  • [14:35:17] <kulve> koen: ah, nm, there's an if that prevents that probably even if it would work otherwise..
  • [14:36:07] <LoneMeow> fast way to see what way you're scaling: if the fir_*inc parameters are larger than 1024 you're downscaling, if they're smaller than 1024 you're upscaling
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  • [14:36:35] <kulve> right
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  • [14:36:42] <kulve> faster indeed :)
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  • [14:38:22] <kulve> LoneMeow: why shouldn't it work, if you downsample in one direction and upsample in the other?
  • [14:39:18] <LoneMeow> because you cannot configure the hardware for that
  • [14:39:36] <kulve> I didn't see anything in the TRM saying that it wouldn't be possible..
  • [14:39:40] <LoneMeow> you only have one set of sampler config registers, so you can only have either upsampling taps or downsampling taps
  • [14:39:58] <kulve> humm, true
  • [14:40:40] <kulve> well, maybe that's not very likely use case even.. :)
  • [14:40:41] <LoneMeow> in theory it might be possible to cook some sampler configuration that yields "tolerable" results for both at same time but I suspect that would look like nearest neighbor (if not even worse)
  • [14:41:15] <LoneMeow> or, it might even be possible to make it work pretty well, I didn't read the sampler part of the TRM closely enough really
  • [14:41:27] <LoneMeow> since they were so nice to give working configuration in a nice table
  • [14:52:46] <kulve> would it better to use the wrong coefficient table for scaling or return EINVAL if one tries to up and downsample at the same time..?
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  • [14:55:10] <N208LG> Hi all. does anyone have the GIT url to pull down omapfbplay? I am trying mash that up with totem so I can get a windowed/fullscreen player. Thanks!
  • [14:55:22] <N208LG> omapfbplay source that is... thanks!
  • [14:55:34] <kulve> http://git.mansr.com/?p=omapfbplay;a=summary
  • [14:56:24] <LoneMeow> kulve, I'd guess that depends, from the kernel API pov EINVAL is perfectly fine way to report that you're trying something that you can't do
  • [14:57:03] <kulve> LoneMeow: is it "can't do" or "bad quality"..?
  • [14:57:14] <kulve> (I'm not familiaer with coefficients)
  • [14:57:34] <N208LG> thanks kulve - but I'm actually looking for the git url (so that I can do "git clone git://<stuff here>") - I didn't see that url on the summary page anywhere... thanks again!
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  • [14:57:50] <LoneMeow> kulve, didn't read the TRM well enough to comment on that
  • [14:58:16] <kulve> N208LG: git://git.mansr.com/omapfbplay
  • [14:58:24] <kulve> N208LG: not too hard to guess from the http url..
  • [14:59:57] <N208LG> thanks kulve
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  • [15:03:48] <koen> kulve: it works on the beagle
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  • [15:04:51] <kulve> I want ES3.0 too!
  • [15:05:21] <kulve> koen: but great to hear. I guess I'll clean up the patch and send it to linux-omap at some point..
  • [15:06:09] <koen> and I hit the 'boom':
  • [15:06:09] <koen> omapfb omapfb: irq error status 0422
  • [15:06:15] <kulve> :(
  • [15:06:16] <koen> downscaling mare than 4 times
  • [15:06:19] <kulve> ah
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  • [15:06:35] <koen> but the james bond trailers now work
  • [15:06:35] <kulve> that's not supported by the hw, if I understood the TRM correctly
  • [15:07:17] <kulve> so, it needs to return EINVAL in those cases and I need to find out what breaks then (something is left uncleaned)
  • [15:09:45] <LoneMeow> kulve, I suspect the plane setup is not undone fully
  • [15:10:27] <koen> kulve: http://gitweb.openembedded.net/?p=openembedded.git;a=commitdiff;h=ea662c15729c1fb25be4ab1ea9010020aa2df34e
  • [15:10:58] <kulve> koen: :)
  • [15:11:13] <robclark> jkridner|work: hmm, the beagle u-boot is even further from compiling on macosx.. so that'll have to be a weekend task. But mkimage is all I need... would that be compatible between u-boot versions? Maybe I could just post my mkimage binary somewhere?
  • [15:11:48] <jkridner|work> should be compatible.
  • [15:11:54] <jkridner|work> I'm not aware of any changes.
  • [15:12:03] <koen> kulve: I'll upload a uImage for evm and one for beagle in a minute
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  • [15:12:17] <robclark> ok, well for someone who just wants to build a kernel, it is probably easier to just take my mkimage binary
  • [15:12:48] <kulve> koen: do you still have the wrong colors on evm?
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  • [15:14:38] <koen> kulve: sadly, yes
  • [15:14:47] <kulve> ok
  • [15:15:50] <sakoman_> koen: I have a u-boot for evm that has the revised pinmux, but sadly haven't had a chance to test it -- just too swamped
  • [15:16:16] <kulve> sakoman_: I could have tested it today, if you had mentioned it..
  • [15:16:24] <sakoman_> If you want to give it a whirl, look here: http://www.sakoman.net/feeds/omap3/glibc/images/omap3evm/
  • [15:16:26] <kulve> next chance is on monday
  • [15:17:01] <sakoman_> kulve: still early morning here, so I couldn't have mentioned it any earlier than just now :-)
  • [15:17:08] <kulve> ok :)
  • [15:17:21] <kulve> I put it on my todo list for monday
  • [15:20:34] <koen> sakoman_: http://rafb.net/p/0G1rRU79.html
  • [15:21:22] <koen> sakoman_: LCD works (still red, thoug), ts also works
  • [15:21:36] <koen> sakoman_: ethernet doesn't work: eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr FF:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF
  • [15:21:43] <koen> sakoman_: so 2 out of 3, not bad :)
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  • [15:39:48] <koen> for people wanting to test the overlay on their omap3evm or beagle: http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/OE/omapfb-overlay/
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  • [15:43:14] <kulve> koen: I put the evm testing on my monday's todo list too
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  • [15:46:02] <dirk2> robclark: I read the logs. If you don't want to send your patch to U-Boot list, send it to BeagleList. I can then check if it still applies to recent U-Boot git and in case send patch to U-Boot list.
  • [15:47:30] <robclark> dirk2: well enough has changed in u-boot v1.3, that the patch won't directly apply... but hopefully after the weekend I will have a patch that does
  • [15:49:14] <koen> http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/998766a5506cd73c#
  • [15:49:55] <dirk2> robclark: How many lines has the patch?
  • [15:49:57] <koen> felipec: could you try one of those kernels with your gstreamer omapfb sink?
  • [15:50:14] <jkridner|work> patch is at http://beagle.s3.amazonaws.com/mac/u-boot-macosx.patch
  • [15:51:09] <robclark> dirk2: well, the diff -crw is 100 lines.. but really it is just a few lines here and there
  • [15:51:27] <robclark> main issue, other than missing headers, was missing msync() call in mkimage (which is still missing in newer u-boot)
  • [15:52:29] <kulve> felipec: relating to koen's question, the cpu ES revision seems to have an effect here..
  • [15:53:50] <dirk2> robclark: Normally unified diff is preferred. Something like diff -uprN
  • [15:54:39] <robclark> ok, no-prob.. I can send the diff in whichever form you prefer
  • [15:55:08] <robclark> would you like me to send it now, or just wait until I have the "beagle" version of u-boot building?
  • [15:56:08] <dirk2> Take your time, whenever you like
  • [15:58:07] <robclark> ok, cool.. well, I don't imagine it would take too long
  • [15:59:33] <robclark> ok, I've updated http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardFAQ#MacOS_X_.2F_x86 with instructions and needed files for building linux kernel on macosx :-)
  • [16:01:40] <N208LG> koen, trying to boot your overlay uImage right now - getting lots of "omapfb omapfb: irq error status 4000" errors... nothing on the screen.
  • [16:01:54] <N208LG> also 4022 errors.
  • [16:02:03] <N208LG> on the serial console
  • [16:03:26] <kulve> N208LG: did you try booting more that once?
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  • [16:04:32] <kulve> N208LG: I get that occasionally as well
  • [16:04:51] <kulve> like 1 of every 20 boot or so..
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  • [16:05:39] <N208LG> I'm seeing it 100% of the time.
  • [16:05:47] <odikrause> hi guys, do you know where ipkg is in the angstrom distribution?
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  • [16:06:02] <kulve> N208LG: :(
  • [16:06:04] <N208LG> kulve - just wondering - I only copied over the uImage... do I need a newer u-boot or something else?
  • [16:06:47] <kulve> N208LG: you shouldn't need if you have a relatively new u-boot (I think)
  • [16:06:55] <N208LG> my monitor is not sleeping - its awake - so something is trying to write to it... just not seeing anything.
  • [16:07:05] <N208LG> v1.3.3 is what I have...
  • [16:07:29] <kulve> I guess it should work then
  • [16:08:16] <N208LG> crumbs.
  • [16:08:56] <N208LG> the board seems alive - the serial console is ticking off the errors - LEDs-a-blinking...
  • [16:09:10] <odikrause> serious. it seems, there is no ipkg in the angstrom distribution
  • [16:09:20] <odikrause> feels like a chicken and egg problem now
  • [16:09:31] <N208LG> I'm going to wait until getty spawns my terminal on the serial port
  • [16:10:42] <sakoman_> koen: thanks for testing! I'll review the ethernet code & pinmux when I get a chance
  • [16:11:48] <sakoman_> kulve: I'll try to have a revision for you to test on Monday -- should be in the same place
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  • [16:14:48] <kulve> sakoman_: thanks
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  • [16:31:29] <koen> odikrause: ipkg is dead, angstrom uses opkg now
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  • [16:32:14] <koen> N208LG: hmmm
  • [16:32:28] <koen> N208LG: I only get those errors when exceeding the scale boundaries
  • [16:32:35] <Wowbagger_> Does anyone know if audio in works in 2.6.27-rc7-omap1? I need a kernel with both gpio sysfs and working audio...
  • [16:32:43] * koen wonders if the evm is secretly a es3 as wel
  • [16:32:53] <Wowbagger_> As far as I can tell audio in just records static with that kernel.
  • [16:33:03] <kulve> Wowbagger_: I tested the audio today on 2.6.27-omap1 and it seemed to work ok..
  • [16:33:12] <Wowbagger_> cool
  • [16:33:17] <Wowbagger_> did audio record, yeah?
  • [16:33:28] <kulve> I tested only playback
  • [16:33:38] <Wowbagger_> um... any chance you could test record too?
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  • [16:34:04] <kulve> nope, I left the office already
  • [16:34:07] <Wowbagger_> damn
  • [16:34:29] <Wowbagger_> I'll try that kernel though.. I guess.. once I figure out how to build them for this board. ;)
  • [16:34:50] <Wowbagger_> That should be newer than rc7, right?
  • [16:34:56] <kulve> yes
  • [16:37:36] <N208LG> koen, I'm also getting a bunch of eth0 status messages. additionally, I'm seeing "__ratelimit: <big number> callbacks suppressed"
  • [16:37:56] <N208LG> but the kernel is running - my serial console is alive.
  • [16:38:19] <jkridner|work> N208LG: just for everyones' information, can you try adding "nohz=off" to the bootargs?
  • [16:38:29] <N208LG> will do...
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  • [16:38:50] <jkridner|work> I'm suspect that the USB Ethernet code on linux-omap has an issue in the power management.
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  • [16:40:36] <N208LG> :-)
  • [16:40:48] <N208LG> working MUCH better now...
  • [16:41:08] <koen> my evm reports CPU: ARMv7 Processor [411fc082] revision 2 (ARMv7), cr=00c5387f
  • [16:41:22] <koen> which should be r1p2 -> ES2.1
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  • [17:15:30] <jkridner|work> koen: putting VNC and Synergy on the beagle demo image look like they'd be extremely useful. several people made use of them during the BeagleBoard 101 class.
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  • [17:25:39] <koen> jkridner|work: vnc server or viewer?
  • [17:25:41] <koen> or both?
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  • [17:56:04] <N208LG> jkrinder - that kernel with the overlay updates/fixes seems to be working very nicely now... FYI.
  • [17:56:47] <kulve> good to know. I'm cleaning up the patch a bit now
  • [17:57:28] <N208LG> I have been playing via omapfbplay a MPEG2 stream full screen now for about 20 minutes (repeating it...) - seems very stable.
  • [17:57:40] <N208LG> MPEG2 FILE ... not stream... sorry.
  • [17:57:45] <N208LG> typing too fast today.
  • [17:57:47] <N208LG> :-)
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  • [18:09:12] <kulve> LoneMeow: in ctrl_change_mode() the setup_plane() is called first, then set_rotate(), then set_scale(). And if set_rotate() or set_scale() failes, it just returns EINVAL. I guess in those cases we need to "unsetup" the plane..
  • [18:09:35] <Fl1pFl0p> does anyone have the 'zd1211' usb-wifi working in angstrom ?
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  • [18:18:29] <kulve> koen: my EVM (rev C) reports the same "CPU:" line, and couple of lines below it I have "OMAP3430ES1". My beagle (rev B5) reports "OMAP3430 ES2.1"
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  • [18:36:12] <koen> kulve: my beagle says: OMAP3430 ES3.0
  • [18:36:35] <koen> and CPU: ARMv7 Processor [411fc083] revision 3 (ARMv7), cr=00c5387f
  • [18:36:40] <koen> which maps to r1p3
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  • [18:56:32] <Wowbagger_> I just tried booting 2.6.27-omap1 and it hangs right after printing out the paritions (..0x00680000-0x10000000 : "File System", then one more line: usbmon: debugfs is not available). Any suggestions?
  • [18:57:32] <Wowbagger_> I was running the linux-omap kernel built by openembedded (which called itself 2.6.27-rc7-omap or something very similar), but was having audio trouble.
  • [18:58:44] <Wowbagger_> In the previous working kernel that was followed by ehci-omap stuff.
  • [19:04:34] <Wowbagger_> hm.. well, disabling usb altogether made it boot... but that's no good.
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  • [19:08:10] <Wowbagger_> When using arecord to test audio in, do I need to do anything to ensure it's recording the right channel?
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  • [19:08:26] <Wowbagger_> (correct channel)
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  • [19:26:37] <Sundar> is it also the place to ask questions on angstrom file system?
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  • [19:44:58] <kulve> Sundar: koen knows all about it :)
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  • [19:50:12] <jkridner> koen: server.
  • [19:51:01] <jkridner> koen: attendees were wanting to be able to simply plug the Beagle Board into their PCs via USB and have networking setup and simply ssh/vnc into the board.
  • [19:51:38] <jkridner> N208LG: thanks for the update.
  • [19:53:57] <koen> jkridner: something like Xvnc or fbvnc, or exporting the current X session over vnc?
  • [20:01:18] <Wowbagger_> does anyone know of a kernel version where arecord definitely works?
  • [20:10:42] <jkridner> koen: exporting the current X session over vnc.
  • [20:10:56] <jkridner> just eliminates the need to have any hardware other than a beagle and a USB cable.
  • [20:11:25] <jkridner> Wowbagger_: I know it works in the validation kernel at http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard.
  • [20:11:45] <jkridner> the diagnostics steps include running arecord.
  • [20:11:48] <Wowbagger_> jkridner: thanks... I'll try that to make sure I'm not losing my mind.
  • [20:12:00] <Wowbagger_> (well, I suppose regardless my mind may be lost)
  • [20:12:17] <jkridner> wouldn't expect it to be used for any development, but it shows the hardware working.
  • [20:14:03] <jkridner> koen: Scott Dyer posted a how-to on the mailing list and multiple people set it up in the classroom and were excited about it.
  • [20:14:19] <jkridner> simply would be nice to include it in the demo.
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  • [20:17:39] <Wowbagger_> hmm... that doesn't seem to work for me.
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  • [20:25:05] <Wowbagger_> hmm.. ok it does record. But I think it swaps the channels.
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  • [20:30:27] <Wowbagger_> The demo kernel records and plays fine (maybe swaps channels). 2.6.27-omap1 and 2.6.27-rc7-omap just record static.
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  • [20:32:17] <Wowbagger_> I know nothing about alsa... does anyone have any suggestions? It's like the twl4030 is set to record on the wrong channel.
  • [20:33:03] <Wowbagger_> There are many more options in alsamixer in the demo kernel.
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  • [20:34:28] <llauren> Good evening.
  • [20:36:33] <llauren> I'm losing the little hair i have left and would really appreciate some help from any guru around.
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  • [20:38:17] <llauren> I'm trying to boot my beagleboard but i'm only getting high-bit garbage over the serial.
  • [20:38:22] <Wowbagger_> stupid laptop flakey ethernet
  • [20:39:27] <llauren> I bought a null modem cable (ok, i didn't actually TEST that it is one), i'm running PuTTY on serial using the 115200-8-n-1-n settings
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  • [20:40:14] <llauren> I get the same type of high bit garbage whether i boot with the user button pressed or not. With no button, i get the beagleboard.org splash screen on dvi, with the button pressed i get nothing.
  • [20:40:34] <llauren> So PLEASE anyone, tell me what n00by thing i am doing wrong here. I'm really losing hope.
  • [20:41:01] <Wowbagger_> do you see any legible text at the start?
  • [20:41:21] <llauren> Nope. Just five or so characters.
  • [20:41:34] <robclark> llauren: which kernel do you use?
  • [20:41:46] <Wowbagger_> before the kernel he should see the boot loader
  • [20:41:47] <llauren> This, actually, from the last three or so boots: ????????????????????
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  • [20:42:22] <Wowbagger_> what are your terminal settings?
  • [20:42:31] <Wowbagger_> serial
  • [20:42:35] <llauren> n00b alert, ?n00b alert. According to the docs, i should be getting at least SOMETHING sensible when booting just the beagle?
  • [20:43:18] <llauren> My serial terminal is set to 115200 bps, 8 data bits, 1 stop bit, parity none and flow control none
  • [20:43:34] <llauren> And as far as the kernel goes, i really don'
  • [20:43:38] <llauren> t have a clue.
  • [20:43:40] <Wowbagger_> jkridner: Is there source somewhere for that test kernel?
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  • [20:44:00] <llauren> I'm just trying to get some startup/boot messages from the beagle
  • [20:44:11] <Wowbagger_> you're sure the serial is wired properly?
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  • [20:44:23] <llauren> I suppose i could take out the multimeter...
  • [20:44:35] <llauren> Pins 2 and 3 crossed, right?
  • [20:44:47] <Wowbagger_> probably
  • [20:44:52] <Wowbagger_> and ground connected?
  • [20:44:56] <kulve> yeah, and 5 direct
  • [20:45:07] <kulve> and the rest unconnected (that's the way I have it)
  • [20:45:17] <Wowbagger_> mine too (just looked)
  • [20:45:49] <llauren> Oh great, i've drained the battery on my multimeter.
  • [20:45:59] <llauren> Hang on, gotta go backstage and fetch my other one :)
  • [20:46:02] <llauren> (brb)
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  • [20:53:04] <llauren> OK. 2 and 3 are crossed, so this is a cross-over cable.
  • [20:53:30] <llauren> So the terminal settings are OK, the cable is OK, and what i get is garbage.
  • [20:53:47] <Wowbagger_> How are you powering the board?
  • [20:53:56] <llauren> Through a powered USB hub.
  • [20:54:12] <llauren> I've used the hub for other stuff before, so it should be kosher.
  • [20:54:28] <llauren> I could use the 5 volt power to fire up the beagle, just for testing.
  • [20:54:29] <Wowbagger_> you could try removing it from the picture just in case
  • [20:55:09] <llauren> OK, booting with the power brick
  • [20:55:18] <llauren> Nope. Same result.
  • [20:55:28] <llauren> Splash screen on DVI, nothing sensible on terminal.
  • [20:56:32] <Wowbagger_> You got something else to verify your serial port with?
  • [20:57:05] <llauren> Hmmm... not really. I could hack up a Picaxe or Arduino but that would take me a bit :)
  • [20:57:24] <Wowbagger_> got a scope?
  • [20:57:55] <llauren> Nope. I'd really appreciate one. Especially now.
  • [20:58:25] <Wowbagger_> Got a different computer?
  • [20:59:05] <Wowbagger_> Argh... the audio code in the demo kernel is entirely different than whats in the new kernels
  • [20:59:22] <pbrook> llauren: Are you sure your Beagle serial cable is corect?
  • [20:59:39] <llauren> pbrook: Just checked. The lines 2 and 3 are crossed.
  • [20:59:58] <pbrook> You checked from the IDC connector to the PC?
  • [21:00:02] <llauren> I'll fire up this old piece of XP junk i have in front of me. Good idea to check.
  • [21:00:31] <llauren> pbrook: the IDC connector, that's the one which is flat, has a black connector on one side and a D9 serial on the other?
  • [21:00:32] <pbrook> There are several different pinouts for rs232 header connectors.
  • [21:00:46] <pbrook> RIght.
  • [21:01:02] <llauren> I did salvage that bit from an old PC so i certainly hope it is correct.
  • [21:01:09] <pbrook> Probably not.
  • [21:01:19] <llauren> is there a pinout diagram on the net that i can cross-check with?
  • [21:02:00] <pbrook> It's a straight through connection. i.e. pins 1-9 map directly onto pins 1-9 of the DB9.
  • [21:02:34] <pbrook> Many PCs use an interleaved mapping because it makes the physical wiring slightly simpler.
  • [21:03:18] <llauren> rats.
  • [21:03:27] <prpplague> llauren: the tincantools site has the pinouts for the adapter
  • [21:03:35] <llauren> OK, let me check.
  • [21:03:37] <llauren> Thanks
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  • [21:04:25] <prpplague> llauren: http://tincantools.com/product.php?productid=16144&cat=0&page=1&featured
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  • [21:06:07] <llauren> http://www.tincantools.com/assets/BeagleBoard_RS232_Adapter_schematic.pdf
  • [21:06:11] <llauren> Oops.
  • [21:06:13] <llauren> :)
  • [21:06:37] <llauren> Same one though. Now i measure...
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  • [21:10:05] <llauren> the schematic, is the D9 from the pin side or the solder side?
  • [21:10:24] <prpplague> the pin side
  • [21:10:36] <prpplague> it should be numbered on your connector
  • [21:11:34] <llauren> so true. I just got it open.
  • [21:11:39] <llauren> (duh)
  • [21:14:04] <llauren> Problem debugged. My so called IDC is wrongly wired.
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  • [21:18:07] <llauren> Alright folks, thank you very many. I'll get out my soldering iron during the weekend.
  • [21:18:27] <llauren> Double kudis to prpplague and pbrook
  • [21:18:33] <llauren> s/kudis/kudos/
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  • [21:21:36] <Wowbagger_> What happened to the audio support from the demo kernel? Was that hacked in or something? I mean... things seem to have taken a giant leap backwards.
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