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  • [07:21:29] <beagle|ibc> morning all!
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  • [07:54:24] <koen> beagle|ibc: good morning!
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  • [08:15:05] <mru> morning
  • [08:15:34] <guillaum1> mru: good morning
  • [08:16:14] <koen> good morning all
  • [08:16:32] <koen> mru: I have updated your patchset in OE for .27rcX
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  • [08:30:26] <ldesnogu> koen: is it expected that packages end in deploy/glibc/ipk instead of the deploy/ipk mentionned here http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Getting_Started ?
  • [08:31:10] <koen> yes
  • [08:31:36] <koen> angstrom also supports uclibcand eglibc, so it adds the libc-type in the directory tree
  • [08:31:42] <mru> ldesnogu: can you comment on a strange cache effect we've observed on the cortex-a8?
  • [08:31:46] <mru> http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_frm/thread/12c7bd415fbc0993
  • [08:33:22] <ldesnogu> mru: I have seen that but I am afraid I don't know for sure and finding someone in ARM that could answer that is complex since everyone is familiar with Cortex-A8 r2 and not r1
  • [08:33:54] <mru> ldesnogu: ok, I'll try it on r2 when I get one
  • [08:38:17] <mru> got to go, will be monitoring logs
  • [08:38:20] <mru> have a nice day
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  • [08:44:06] <koen> my a8 r2 got delivered to the wrong address...
  • [08:44:11] <koen> luckily it's someone I know :)
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  • [08:57:07] <[X]Spot> Hi all
  • [08:57:10] <[X]Spot> what kernel modules do I need to use the USB OTG as USB Host ?
  • [09:04:55] <ldesnogu> koen: you were sent an a8 r2? nice :)
  • [09:07:14] <koen> [X]Spot: if you use the angstrom uImage, none, they are already builtin
  • [09:09:17] <[X]Spot> koen I would like to build the kernel myself
  • [09:09:52] <[X]Spot> Actually I'm ussing the omap3 EVM board (not the final beagleboard).. but it is the same I tnikg
  • [09:09:56] <[X]Spot> think
  • [09:10:12] <koen> If you're advanced enough to build your own kernel, you're advanced enough to know which modules your need, right?
  • [09:10:54] <kulve> evm != beagleboard even though they have the same cpu..
  • [09:12:04] <koen> you can buy like 7 beagles for the price of an evm :)
  • [09:16:19] <[X]Spot> I know the modules.. but I really have troubles using the OTG as USB HOST
  • [09:16:56] <kulve> you have the right cable?
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  • [09:17:47] <kulve> you need mini-a (most cables are mini-b)
  • [09:18:19] <[X]Spot> I have an usb cable with a jitter
  • [09:18:34] <kulve> jitter?
  • [09:19:41] <[X]Spot> I mean transient bush
  • [09:19:48] <[X]Spot> I do not know the right word ;)
  • [09:20:01] <kulve> you need something like this: http://trisoft.de/pics/ZHost.JPG
  • [09:20:02] <[X]Spot> but I think I have the right cable
  • [09:20:14] <kulve> and note the "A" on the connector, usually they are "B"
  • [09:21:45] <[X]Spot> Are both of them have the same facade ?
  • [09:21:59] <[X]Spot> I have such cable
  • [09:22:07] <kulve> http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard#OTG
  • [09:22:13] <[X]Spot> but how can I be sure that it's mini-A/
  • [09:22:41] <kulve> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c2/Types-usb.svg/180px-Types-usb.svg.png
  • [09:22:59] <kulve> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB
  • [09:23:27] <[X]Spot> yes exactly .. i have mini-A
  • [09:23:31] <kulve> it might be hard to know. You can check with a voltage meter (or whatever it is) if the pins 4 and 5 are connected together
  • [09:27:41] <[X]Spot> I have OTG support + usbcore, ehci, ohci... usb-storage support... and such cable.. but when I plug usb key - no kernel messages
  • [09:28:18] <[X]Spot> I tried to use powered usb hub - but the cable went hotter - and nothing
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  • [10:34:24] <artyomt> is it so http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/ built with assumption of usb hub attached and ethernet dongle in it ?
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  • [10:48:30] <adj_> some time ago I took pictures of all of the standard USB connectors and put them on the web (only in finnish, sorry, but you'll get the idea):
  • [10:48:36] <adj_> http://www.hervanta.com/stuff/USB-liittimet
  • [10:48:58] <ahu> adj_: I'm sure we'll make sense of the finnish :-)
  • [10:54:39] <kulve> I can translate some sentences :)
  • [10:58:16] <artyomt> made SD boot with angstrom 20080911-beagleboard.rootfs.tar.bz2, result is here: http://pastebin.ca/1204180 what I've missed ?
  • [10:59:53] <kulve> did make two partitions? Did you try to boot the kernel from the sd (first partition)?
  • [11:00:56] <artyomt> two partitions, yes, fat32 and ext3
  • [11:01:33] <artyomt> made step by step as in http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardBeginners
  • [11:01:48] <kulve> it didn't boot the first partion.. But I'm not sure if that affects anything as you seem to have u-boot in the nand too..
  • [11:09:46] <artyomt> in beginner guide it is written #cp u-boot /mnt/sda1 but on koen page its a u-boot.bin
  • [11:09:50] <artyomt> does it matter ?
  • [11:10:06] <adj_> that does not matter in this case
  • [11:10:36] <adj_> it seems that the kernel is unable to mount the root fs: VFS: Cannot open root device "mmcblk0p2" or unknown-block(2,0)
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  • [11:14:21] <kulve> 0p2 is the second partition on first MMC/SD slot
  • [11:16:40] <artyomt> mistake in guide then ? # setenv bootargs 'console=ttyS2,115200n8 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rw rootwait'
  • [11:19:45] <artyomt> ahhh... took newest MLO / uboot / uImage from angstrom page, looks like booting ok
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  • [11:24:19] <rene80> support the beagle board an display with touch out of the box?
  • [11:24:54] <kulve> touch?
  • [11:26:14] <rene80> i mean an does it support touch displays ot of the box
  • [11:27:47] <adj_> out of the box beagle doesn't even have an operating system, just loader sw :)
  • [11:27:49] <kulve> well, there's no display on it, so..
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  • [12:04:51] <ldesnogu> interesting: Nokia seems to have OMAP3 ES3.0
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  • [12:38:28] <montamer> hi pmeerw ......... i still cant input at the uboot prompt ... im sure that the 5th pin was grounded (sorry i went in middle yesterday an my college net has limited net access)
  • [12:40:34] <montamer> any ideas? where i went wrong? (i connected 2->3;3->2;5->5 from board db9 to pc) ...... i can see the boot messages but cant input any
  • [12:41:58] <pmeerw> can you measure if the ground pin of the beagleboard is connected to pin 5?
  • [12:42:22] <pmeerw> it really sounds like the issue I had
  • [12:42:42] <montamer> ye i checked with a multimeter ......... i checked with the lanst pin on beagle board
  • [12:42:51] <montamer> expansion
  • [12:42:55] <montamer> pins
  • [12:43:17] <montamer> which is ground from the hw sheet
  • [12:44:21] <montamer> i have tried powering the beagle board both from usb and external power supply
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  • [12:47:24] <kulve> montamer: from board db9 to pc or from board idc10 to pc? I.e. I soldered a crossed idc10<->db9 cable and then used direct cable between the db9 and the pc..
  • [12:49:23] <montamer> from db9 to pc ..... mine is direct idc10 to db9 cable (1-1 and 2-2 etc ...) and then from db9 to pc rs232 (2->3 3->2 and 5->5)
  • [12:54:08] <kulve> ok, then it sounds pretty much how I soldered mine
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  • [12:55:35] <montamer> @Kulve is urs fine ? or having the same problem
  • [12:56:22] <kulve> works ok
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  • [12:58:21] <chakie_work> i found one idc10 cable in my junk pile, it has probably come from a motherboard but i have no idea when...
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  • [12:59:39] <montamer> i just came across this link, looks like mine is similar to this issue ( http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/fa57e54792816524/7730da05b5ee4c73?#7730da05b5ee4c73 )
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  • [13:17:18] <adj_> hmm.. does beagle really need a cold start when connecting USB devices to the OTG port?
  • [13:18:18] <adj_> I mean, if I disconnect my USB hub it won't be detected anymore without cold reset if I just plug it in again
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  • [13:19:10] <adj_> I can live with that but I'm just wondering
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  • [13:42:16] <Crofton|work> adj_, hopefully that is something that will get fixed
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  • [13:43:03] <adj_> ok, good to know that it's a known issue, thanks!
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  • [14:02:02] <keesj> I mean the maemo kernel had this mode switching using sysfs
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  • [15:03:19] <ElectricDreams> hi at all
  • [15:03:42] <ElectricDreams> anybody has measured the memory bandwidth of beagleboard?
  • [15:05:39] * methril|gone is now known as methril
  • [15:06:10] <pmeerw> ElectricDreams: there's a thread on memory bandwidth on beagleboard@googlegroups.com
  • [15:09:21] <ElectricDreams> i have seen the thread, but i think that the methodology is wrong
  • [15:09:34] <jkridner> the discussion is logged at http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/12c7bd415fbc0993/456fd8eda1edde8e?lnk=gst&q=memory+bandwidth#456fd8eda1edde8e
  • [15:09:54] <ElectricDreams> someone has beagleboard and time to use lmbench?
  • [15:12:35] <ElectricDreams> 172MB/s seems to be a poor result...
  • [15:22:43] <felipec> mru: the latest ffmpeg doesn't compile on my system
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  • [15:30:54] <AV500> yes, it is available
  • [15:31:02] <AV500> oops
  • [15:31:12] <AV500> forget it
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  • [15:48:15] <jkridner> ElectricDreams: it would have to be really fast.
  • [15:48:17] <kulve> ElectricDreams: is the lmbench a bit overkill to get just a memory test run..
  • [15:51:02] <jkridner> anyone using Angstrom's task-native-sdk and running gcc locally?
  • [15:51:32] <jkridner> I'm very frustrated that gcc is currently broken and that I cannot find the old working binaries (old packages seem to be removed).
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  • [15:52:37] <jkridner> well, I guess that saves me some time.
  • [15:52:53] <jkridner> I'm currently running lmbench to understand what it currently outputs.
  • [15:54:15] <kulve> jkridner: be sure to post the results somewhere. To the mailing lists at least.
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  • [17:13:32] <jkridner> kulve: done.
  • [17:14:36] <mru> the "bcopy" figures are rather similar to my numbers
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  • [17:21:42] <jkridner> can anyone interpret "Error saving screenshot: Value for PNG text chunk CREATOR cannot be converted to ISO-8859-1 encoding."?
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  • [17:21:58] <jkridner> this happens when I try to take a screenshot and otherwise write PNG files.
  • [17:22:19] <jkridner> I'd be happy without that metadata, if I could just save a file.
  • [17:22:36] <jkridner> is there a particular PNG library that is bunk?
  • [17:23:34] <mru> what app are you using?
  • [17:23:44] * mru prefers xwd for screenshots in X
  • [17:23:46] <jkridner> "Take Snapshot"
  • [17:23:54] <mru> uh?
  • [17:24:15] <jkridner> I'm looking for the .desktop to try to figure it out.
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  • [17:25:42] <likewise> gm all
  • [17:25:52] <jkridner> hi likewise.
  • [17:26:11] <jkridner> what is the easy way to find what application is called for a given application icon in e17?
  • [17:26:55] <mru> crystal ball
  • [17:28:07] <jkridner> ah, I'm using gpe-scap.
  • [17:28:14] <jkridner> gpe-scap is what doesn't work for me.
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  • [17:31:01] <jkridner> xwd worked as does gimp.
  • [17:31:50] <jkridner> hmmm.... actually, the xwd file crashed gimp. what is the xwd output file type?
  • [17:32:00] <mru> xwd
  • [17:32:01] <jkridner> neither are as convenient as gpe-scap
  • [17:32:08] <jkridner> it has its own format?
  • [17:32:25] <mru> imagemagick can convert it to anything you please
  • [17:32:46] <mru> gimp should handle it too
  • [17:33:37] <jkridner> gimp crashes when opening it.
  • [17:33:46] <mru> broken gimp
  • [17:34:09] <mru> works here
  • [17:42:42] <guillaum1> hi all
  • [17:42:49] <jkridner> are you using OE? Do you have a particular ipk that works?
  • [17:42:54] <jkridner> hi guillaum1
  • [17:42:56] * guillaum1 wonders how to repair opkg when it systematically returns seg fault :-(
  • [17:43:35] <mru> jkridner: are you running gimp on the beagle?
  • [17:43:44] <jkridner> yes
  • [17:43:59] <mru> I tried opening an xwd file on the pc
  • [17:45:34] <jkridner> have you tried on Beagle?
  • [17:45:46] <mru> no
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  • [17:50:02] <macneib> hello, don't mean to rehash another DSP conversation but is there some documentation in place for getting the DSP side online for angstrom? or another flavor?
  • [17:51:20] <felipec> what do you use for generating multimedia content for the demos?
  • [17:52:04] <felipec> macneib: not exactly, but if you are doing it now I can solve your questions
  • [17:52:09] <mru> we use available content
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  • [17:52:11] <jkridner> I don't think there is any good docs in place. There is a recipe for building dsplink 1.51, which can be downloaded from the TI website.
  • [17:52:18] <macneib> ah ok
  • [17:52:28] <jkridner> there is also the dspbridge code that felipec is using.
  • [17:52:30] <kulve> jkridner: thx
  • [17:53:09] <vlad_> grr, stupid zoom mdk battery
  • [17:53:40] <macneib> thanks.. i'm looking at Hiroshi's patches
  • [17:53:57] <felipec> macneib: it's on the mailing list
  • [17:54:47] <felipec> http://4869037.web.fc2.com/tidspbridge-20080913.tgz
  • [17:55:19] <macneib> yeah i saw the emails thanks for help it was very useful, I was just going though the menuconfig though the modifications to the config is where I get lost.
  • [17:56:07] <macneib> specific: CONFIG_FB_OMAP_CONSISTENT_DMA_SIZE=14, CONFIG_MPU_BRIDGE=m, CONFIG_DISABLE_BRIDGE_DVFS=y, CONFIG_DISABLE_BRIDGE_PM=y
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  • [17:56:52] <macneib> pardon my newb question but where am I going in to modify these? in the defconfig?
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  • [17:57:01] <[MattE]> Afternoon, all
  • [17:58:11] <felipec> macneib: well, try with make menuconfig, all the dsp options are on the same place
  • [17:58:28] <macneib> oh they are already in the menuconfig?
  • [17:58:28] <Crofton|work> is usb borked in the the current git?
  • [17:58:41] <felipec> macneib: the consistent dma thing is on the frame buffer stuff
  • [17:58:56] <macneib> ok
  • [17:59:27] <mru> ought not the consistent dma size option move to a more central location?
  • [17:59:37] <mru> there's nothing fb-specific about it
  • [18:00:04] <macneib> mur: this is where i confused, these options are tucked away in a seemingly random spot
  • [18:01:02] <felipec> yes, but no one has decided yet where
  • [18:01:20] <macneib> ok i jsut wanted to make sure i was on the right path
  • [18:01:25] <macneib> thanks
  • [18:01:46] <[MattE]> I've a u-boot/omapfb question: are the display timings hardwired or is it possible to change splash screen mode from uboot config?
  • [18:02:26] <mru> the u-boot splash screen is very much hard-coded
  • [18:03:00] <[MattE]> mru: ok, thanks :) I'll dig
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  • [18:03:29] <mru> it's easy enough to change if you know where to look
  • [18:03:33] <mru> and have the documentation handy
  • [18:03:50] <mru> there's a pageful of writing values to registers
  • [18:04:15] <[MattE]> ok, cheers, I guess I can use the kernel fb source as a reference
  • [18:04:32] <mru> it's easier to look up the registers in the manual
  • [18:04:33] * [MattE] grins, I remember a few large structs of magic numbers ;)
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  • [18:06:05] <mru> grep for 0x48050464
  • [18:06:15] <mru> that's the horizontal timing register
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  • [18:11:03] <[MattE]> mru: So it is, what a good memory you have, M??ns :D Many thanks for the pointer
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  • [18:12:45] <felipec> ahg, I keep getting Invalid FAT entry on my mmc
  • [18:13:07] <felipec> it's always the same, after a while I need to reformat the partition
  • [18:13:38] <felipec> everything reads it fine, except u-boot
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  • [18:14:23] <koen> re
  • [18:15:14] * guillaum1 wins over opkg
  • [18:15:37] <jkridner> guillaume1: can you share how you defeated it?
  • [18:15:53] <mru> koen: did you get some hardware today?
  • [18:18:34] <guillaum1> jkridner: in my case:
  • [18:18:34] <guillaum1> mv /usr/lib/ipkg/status /usr/lib/ipkg/status.old
  • [18:18:34] <guillaum1> opkg install opkg (or something else)
  • [18:18:34] <guillaum1> cat /usr/lib/ipkg/status >> /usr/lib/ipkg/status.old
  • [18:18:34] <guillaum1> mv /usr/lib/ipkg/status.old /usr/lib/ipkg/status
  • [18:19:02] <jkridner> thanks
  • [18:19:39] <jkridner> btw, we missed the deadline to find a speaker for the Sugar presentation. I haven't heard back from the ESC guys, but my guess is that they will cancel that presentation.
  • [18:19:53] <keesj> felipec: do you store more files on the FAT or only the 3 "importent" ones?
  • [18:20:17] <koen> mru: no, they delivered it to the wrong address yesterday
  • [18:20:29] <koen> mru: it's on its way to here now
  • [18:20:34] <felipec> keesj: more
  • [18:20:53] <Crofton|work> rofl
  • [18:20:53] <koen> jkridner|work: if you get the iso-8859 error from gpe-scap your rootfs is pretty outdated :(
  • [18:21:12] <koen> Crofton|work: didn't you notice the happy likewise yesterday?
  • [18:21:15] <Crofton|work> koen, is usb borked in linux-omap_git
  • [18:21:23] <Crofton|work> hahahaha
  • [18:21:32] <Crofton|work> they mis up your addresses
  • [18:21:47] <koen> yeah
  • [18:22:06] <koen> they sent it to the 'corporate HQ' for dutch OE consulting :)
  • [18:22:12] <jkridner> talking in #sugar about that presentation.
  • [18:22:24] <jkridner> koen: I'm using the 9/11 rootfs.
  • [18:22:34] <koen> hmmm
  • [18:22:42] <koen> that shouldn't have the broken glibc anymore
  • [18:22:58] <mru> what? someone fixed glibc?
  • [18:23:09] <koen> no, someone made it less broken :)
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  • [18:23:52] <koen> jkridner: ln -sf /lib/libc.so.6 /lib/libc.so (or somethng similar, my beagle is still in a box)
  • [18:24:52] <koen> jkridner: http://amethyst.openembedded.net/~koen/beagleboard/lmbench.results.2.6.26rc1.20080511.txt
  • [18:25:20] <koen> jkridner: and for omap3evm: http://www.sakoman.net/omap3/lmbench.results.txt
  • [18:26:21] <jkridner> koen: that did the trick!
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  • [18:26:43] <[MattE]> koen: Is the only difference (between the boards) memory? (And what's on the o3evm, can the DDR go >166MHz on OMAP3?)
  • [18:26:43] <likewise> koen: hq to koen, hq to koen. no casings arrived at hq yet. shall I ship stop shall I ship stop. questionmark stop. :-)
  • [18:27:37] <koen> likewise: I just got a mail forwarded from TI netherlands wondering at what department I was working and why they have a parcel with my name on it :)
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  • [18:28:52] <likewise> koen: cool. I knew I should expand :-)
  • [18:28:55] <keesj> koen: I also wonder where you are working .
  • [18:29:30] * koen has a few different employers being still a student and all
  • [18:29:42] <Crofton|work> koen, works in front of the TV
  • [18:31:20] <keesj> I should try that to. it works apparently well
  • [18:33:03] <Crofton|work> I work in the "basement"
  • [18:33:11] <Crofton|work> well the lower floor above the base ment
  • [18:33:42] * koen wonders if the abiword crash is related to the libc symlink
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  • [18:44:07] <felipec> is ALSA working for you?
  • [18:46:55] <koen> define 'working'
  • [18:47:00] <koen> it works in OSS mode
  • [18:47:18] <koen> my usb audio device works fine in both oss ans also mode
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  • [18:49:30] <Crofton|work> root@beagleboard:~# alsactl store
  • [18:49:30] <Crofton|work> alsactl: save_state:1501: No soundcards found...
  • [18:49:31] <Crofton|work> ?
  • [18:50:34] <Crofton|work> no sign on the SoC driver
  • [18:50:41] <Crofton|work> ASoC version 0.13.2
  • [18:50:42] <Crofton|work> ALSA device list:
  • [18:50:42] <Crofton|work> No soundcards found.
  • [18:50:43] <Crofton|work> weird
  • [18:52:34] <koen> Crofton|work: .27rc?
  • [18:53:21] <Crofton|work> 2.6.27-rc6-omap1
  • [18:53:29] <Crofton|work> jsut built this AM
  • [18:53:35] <koen> right
  • [18:53:47] <koen> that only has an overa board description for asoc
  • [18:54:14] <koen> copy the file and do s/overo/omap3_beagleboard/g and it should work for beagle
  • [18:54:19] <Crofton|work> heh
  • [18:54:34] <Crofton|work> the usb is going to be a nuisance
  • [18:54:39] <Crofton|work> I need a network
  • [18:55:00] <Crofton|work> so I can mount gnu radio build directory to run tests
  • [18:55:08] <Crofton|work> may have to back to verilog :)
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  • [19:03:21] <felipec> koen: I get:
  • [19:03:21] <felipec> ALSA device list:
  • [19:03:22] <felipec> No soundcards found.
  • [19:04:07] <keesj> http://www.flickr.com/photos/51025379@N00/2862726521/?eOrig=2862706313 ( my current beagle setup)
  • [19:07:22] <Crofton|work> beagle u-boot is in sakoman_ 's git?
  • [19:07:33] <koen> Crofton|work: yes
  • [19:07:46] <koen> felipec: scroll up 15 minutes :)
  • [19:07:54] <[MattE]> keesj: Cool, what kind of JTAG/serial board?
  • [19:08:18] <jkridner> I recognize the Flyswatter (JTAG/serial).
  • [19:08:22] <keesj> it's the FlySwatter
  • [19:08:51] <Crofton|work> koen, that url is not in my google history
  • [19:08:52] <jkridner> Crofton|work: be sure to pull the branch.
  • [19:09:24] <[MattE]> ahhh nice, FT2232 based eh.. Not too expensive either
  • [19:09:34] <vlad_> keesj: is that just a usb hub beow the beagle?
  • [19:09:44] <jkridner> I believe the branch is called 'common'.
  • [19:09:46] <Crofton|work> ah
  • [19:09:54] <keesj> vlad_: yes
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  • [19:19:26] <felipec> koen: I did that, still got the same =/
  • [19:22:08] <koen> you made a beagle board board file?
  • [19:23:08] <mru> jkridner: are you jkridner or jkridner|work?
  • [19:23:24] <felipec> koen: yeap, add added it to the Kconfig and everything
  • [19:24:09] <jkridner> both.
  • [19:24:22] <jkridner> working from home. hurricane has the roads in a mess.
  • [19:25:00] <mru> I asked you a question in a private window... got no reply
  • [19:25:30] <jkridner> work machine doesn't make a tone. this one does.
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  • [19:41:45] <koen> felipec: could you try adding printks to see what's going wrong?
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  • [19:43:20] <koen> felipec: this is how the old asoc driver looked like: http://gitweb.openembedded.net/?p=org.openembedded.dev.git;a=blob;f=packages/linux/linux-omap2-git/beagleboard/ASoC-machine-driver-for_OMAP3-Beagle.patch;h=9343a9c59abdd2390ee8b5b08ce1c8ff947f07bf;hb=93f1eb1d7217e979c5431b9ffd4f5361a1056446
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  • [19:55:11] <felipec> koen: ah, forgot to add it to the Makefile :p
  • [19:55:13] * felipec tries again
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  • [20:16:58] <felipec> koen: yeap, it works
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  • [20:21:37] <koen> felipec: wanna send that patch to l-o ml?
  • [20:22:34] <felipec> koen: I can do it, but if it's exactly the same probably it should be one for both boards
  • [20:27:11] <felipec> koen: why didn't you send one?
  • [20:27:37] <koen> because I hadn't taken the time yet to do the work again
  • [20:27:50] * koen is trying to the &$*#@&$*@#&*$ .27rc working on the evm
  • [20:42:54] <zedstar> koen can ask u an angstrom question?....is opkg upgrade functional on these demos...ive not run it in case it does something funky
  • [20:43:52] <koen> zedstar: it should be
  • [20:44:00] <koen> zedstar: pass -force-overwrite just in case
  • [20:44:27] <koen> the people working on the enlightenment packages don't really care for sane upgrade paths :(
  • [20:44:51] * koen notices "Free As In Libre" has a funny abbrevation
  • [20:44:58] <zedstar> koen ok thanks
  • [20:45:43] <koen> zedstar: my demo image is a few months old and kept up to date with 'opkg upgrade -force-overwrite'
  • [20:46:57] <zedstar> koen ok sweet.....ive had problems doing opkg upgrades before on openmoko where it borked the install
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  • [20:51:32] <zedstar> just tried my cheap power adapter on my dog and seems to work and plugged my bluetooth dongle via usb host cable and working....so now gonna turn my dog into a bluetooth logger
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  • [20:53:39] <felipec> koen: done
  • [20:53:49] <felipec> let's see what they say
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  • [20:58:59] <koen> zedstar: the people working on the enlightenment stuff are openmoko employees, so no surprise if upgrading is broken on openmoko
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  • [21:02:13] <zedstar> koen it is all pretty confusing these days on openmoko with all the distro choices...... keep up the good work on angstrom!
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  • [21:05:17] <koen> zedstar: openmoko is angstrom based, but they seem pretty resolved on not working with angstrom, but keep messing stuff up
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  • [21:10:18] <zedstar> koen yeh. now there is strong movement on irc shifting away from OE to debian...basically cos they dont get what OE does
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  • [21:12:29] <geist> yeah, OE takes a while to understand
  • [21:17:43] <koen> it also takes a while to understand that #oe is not the best place to get accurate info or proper solutions
  • [21:33:16] <koen> mru: does ffmpeg have an internal dirac decoder, or does it need to use schroedinger?
  • [21:33:47] <koen> the git codebase seems to imply that the internal implementation will be disabled if schroedinger is found
  • [21:34:01] <mru> there is no internal implementation
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  • [21:34:12] <mru> it can use either libdirac or libschroedinger
  • [21:34:19] <mru> with preference to the latter
  • [21:34:26] <geist> i thought you just cannot observe the implementation
  • [21:34:44] <geist> it may or may not be there
  • [21:35:02] <mru> no, it uses sort of both, until you observe it
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  • [21:35:19] <geist> ah yes
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  • [21:43:46] <koen> oh dear
  • [21:43:56] <koen> schroedinger-tools depends on boost
  • [21:44:00] <mru> gaaaah
  • [21:44:09] <mru> don't tell me it needs libxml too
  • [21:44:38] * koen checks
  • [21:44:46] <koen> only boost and libschroedinger
  • [21:46:02] <koen> mru: how much of you neon dsputil stuff would ffmpeg use for dirac video?
  • [21:46:09] <koen> mru: I'm guessing 'none'
  • [21:46:11] <mru> none
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  • [21:47:10] <koen> I'll enable it anyway since omapfbplay will still use the overlay :)
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  • [21:48:47] <mru> omapfbplay is being more widely used than was originally intended
  • [21:49:19] <mru> "someone" should make it a bit more resilient towards unexpected things happening
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  • [21:52:31] <koen> it seems it's the only thing that can drive the overlay properly on a git kernel
  • [21:52:57] <mru> I know
  • [21:53:33] <mru> the display driver situation needs to stabilise a bit
  • [21:53:48] <mru> then we can start talking about Xvideo drivers
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  • [21:54:20] <dcordes> neon accerlated Xserver?
  • [21:54:23] <koen> I need to try .27rc6 on beagle again
  • [21:54:36] <mru> dcordes: I was thinking of the overlays
  • [21:55:00] <koen> but I'll wait for the mysterious package to get delivered :)
  • [21:55:02] <mru> but I'd probably include the neon yuv conversino code
  • [21:55:28] <koen> mru: that yuv code could probably put in pixman
  • [21:55:36] * mru is also waiting for a package...
  • [21:55:49] <mru> dhl say they sent it to utrecht...
  • [21:56:16] <koen> right
  • [21:56:31] <mru> or the dsp could do the conversion
  • [21:56:36] <koen> that's where the casings got stuck
  • [21:57:17] <koen> well, they got stuck because the people at Houston were having a hurricane
  • [21:57:17] <mru> what sort of tarpit have they got in utrecht?
  • [21:58:21] <koen> utrecht seems to be the place where they hand it over to TI parcel service
  • [21:58:32] <koen> (which is probably DHL again)
  • [21:58:39] <mru> TI has their own parcel service?
  • [21:59:04] * mru have not good grammar
  • [21:59:37] <koen> I suspect TI has a deal with DHL to bulk deliver to utrecht
  • [21:59:45] <mru> should companies be referred to as singular or plural?
  • [22:00:13] <koen> it is Texas Instrument_s_ :)
  • [22:00:27] <mru> that's referring to the products
  • [22:00:32] <mru> not the company itself
  • [22:00:40] <koen> right
  • [22:00:58] * koen gets some sleep before spouting more nonsense
  • [22:00:59] <mru> not a company per se, but for CERN the singularity should be used...
  • [22:01:10] <koen> mru: TI people were very impressed with your NEON work
  • [22:01:26] <Crofton|work> gn
  • [22:01:34] <mru> jason is badgering me to do some dsp coding
  • [22:01:52] <Crofton|work> use bridge :)
  • [22:02:07] <mru> all those dsp packages look like monsters
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  • [22:02:26] <dcordes> mru, anyway it would be nice to have X speedy
  • [22:02:31] <Crofton|work> we need to figure out which way to go for dsp support
  • [22:03:06] <mru> the choices are use an existing monster or create a new one
  • [22:03:14] <Crofton|work> heh
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  • [22:03:36] <Crofton|work> I wish I could get someone to lean on my school to do some of that
  • [22:03:38] <koen> Crofton|work: Roger and I will get together after his holiday to finish OE support for link
  • [22:03:50] <Crofton|work> heh
  • [22:04:00] <Crofton|work> Europeans have too many holidays
  • [22:04:28] <mru> if I didn't have all that money-making work to do....
  • [22:04:48] <Crofton|work> Now that I can blink a light via the expansion connnector, I need to transfer some real data
  • [22:04:56] <Crofton|work> likely to the lcd panel first
  • [22:04:57] <mru> use morse code
  • [22:05:10] <Crofton|work> -.-. --.-
  • [22:05:24] <koen> Crofton|work: write a leds-gpio driver for it :)
  • [22:05:25] <Crofton|work> -.. . -.- ....4 . .--.
  • [22:05:31] <Crofton|work> heh
  • [22:05:39] <Crofton|work> I could do it in python
  • [22:05:44] <koen> *cough*
  • [22:05:49] <Crofton|work> :)
  • [22:05:50] <koen> now you are spouting nonsense
  • [22:06:03] <Crofton|work> I knew that get a rise from you :)
  • [22:06:12] <koen> I'm still waiting for mickey to rewrite glibc in python for his pet openmoko project
  • [22:06:28] <mru> .-.. --- .-..
  • [22:07:09] <Crofton|work> .-. --- ..-. .-..
  • [22:07:26] <Crofton|work> this is really bad for my occasional attempts to get my morse speed up
  • [22:07:58] <Crofton|work> I need to go from sound to head and not convert to .'s and -'s in the process
  • [22:09:06] <mru> a guy in uni built a morse code to braille converter
  • [22:09:18] <mru> only trouble, he used LEDs for output
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  • [22:25:32] <dcordes> mru, like this http://headfuzz.co.uk/?q=taxonomy/term/2 ?
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  • [22:54:33] <mru> mini-puzzle: wtf does __raw_writel(0x402000b0, IO_ADDRESS(0x680050a0)); do?
  • [22:54:50] <mru> comment says /* L3 firewall setting: enable access to OCM RAM */
  • [22:55:02] <mru> I can't match it up with documentation
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