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  • [05:40:02] <sakoman_> Has anyone tried to build x-load from the source tarball (or the git for that matter)?
  • [05:41:05] <sakoman_> When I attempt to build it I get: error: asm/arch/cpu.h: No such file or directory
  • [05:42:08] <sakoman_> It seems after the make config that all of the headers in asm/arch have broken links
  • [05:43:03] <sakoman_> they are all pointing to files in asm-arm/arch-omap3
  • [05:43:35] <sakoman_> however there is no asm-arm directory, there is only asm
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  • [08:01:26] <koen> good morning all
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  • [11:03:08] <Crofton> gm
  • [11:05:05] <koen> yay! internet
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  • [11:06:41] <mru> morning
  • [11:09:26] <jkridner> good morning
  • [11:09:53] <jkridner> hopefully the internet connection stays up better than it did in LRL US.
  • [11:10:21] <koen> heh
  • [11:10:33] <koen> we broke the DVI of one beagle
  • [11:10:43] <koen> it's only running at 2/3 of the colours
  • [11:12:31] <koen> the dsp demo is taking 60% cpu on the cortex
  • [11:18:39] <jkridner> yikes to both of those.
  • [11:19:12] <jkridner> strange about taking so much CPU on the Cortex. should be easy to figure out what it is doing in the future...
  • [11:19:30] <koen> 1386 root RT -20 56332 5980 5816 S 66.5 7.0 32:38.67 ./decode -v data/v
  • [11:19:30] <jkridner> I'd guess it is probably in some polling loops that aren't yielding.
  • [11:20:19] <jkridner> yeah, I don't suppose you have the source to decode. that is something we ought to be able to look at pretty easily after the show.
  • [11:20:46] <jkridner> I can't imagine it is doing much more than sitting in a polling loop if the codec is putting out YUV422.
  • [11:21:02] <jkridner> parsing up front could be a bit of an issue, but not 60% load.
  • [11:22:39] <koen> paul brook filled in a lottery ticket
  • [11:23:06] <jkridner> :) pass my wishes for best of luck to him.
  • [11:23:14] <koen> should we kidnap him and force him to fix csl2008?
  • [11:23:18] <jkridner> :)
  • [11:23:36] <jkridner> now, that is a thought!
  • [11:24:08] <koen> he's at the neuros booth now
  • [11:25:00] <jkridner> make sure he knows no-upstream, no-board. ;)
  • [11:25:11] <koen> :)
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  • [12:26:41] <Crofton|work> http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/imagegallery/image_feature_1133.html
  • [12:27:11] * Crofton|work saw a headline in an Austrian paper with the word Governator in it
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  • [12:48:26] <sakoman_> good morning
  • [12:49:12] <Crofton> gm
  • [12:53:21] <sakoman_> has anyone successfully built x-load from the code.google.com sources?
  • [13:01:00] <sakoman_> see my comments from last night's irc log for how it breaks for me
  • [13:30:23] <sakoman_> dirk2 pointed out via email a comment on omapzoom.org: "Note: xloader depends on the u-boot source. The x-loader folder must share the same root folder as u-boot for it compile."
  • [13:30:53] <sakoman_> Maybe it is just me, but this just seems crazy.
  • [13:32:25] <sakoman_> X-loader is essentially a stripped down duplicate of the u-boot code. Why on earth require the u-boot tree in addition!
  • [13:42:39] <jkridner> sakoman_: we all agree it is crazy.
  • [13:42:46] <jkridner> I don't know how it got that way.
  • [13:43:20] <jkridner> Focus of the most likely people to fix it seems to have shifted to u-boot-v2 as a more scalable solution.
  • [13:43:58] <jkridner> I believe the idea is to use u-boot-v2 build options to have a version that is really small to fit in on-chip memory to then load a version that is bigger.
  • [13:44:12] <sakoman_> Really prone to mysterious bugs since the compiled code won't be using the headers in the xload tree but the headers in the u-boot tree
  • [13:44:15] <jkridner> however, I may be misinterpreting that.
  • [13:44:46] <jkridner> yes, it is a point-solution-disaster.
  • [13:45:11] <sakoman_> I have a client board to bring up now so I have to fix this cause I can't wait for v2 :-(
  • [13:45:23] <jkridner> there has also been attempts to create a boot image that utilizes the ROM code's ability to configure the memory using parameters in the boot image.
  • [13:45:38] <jkridner> ah.
  • [13:46:10] <jkridner> I'm afraid you'll likely need to pull the u-boot from code.google.com and make it part of your overall x-load project.
  • [13:46:45] <jkridner> when a better x-load solution is available, you'll be able to replace that whole mess.
  • [13:46:46] <sakoman_> TI has way too many slightly different tarballs and gits of things
  • [13:47:37] <sakoman_> Yeah, I think I need to start a xload git :-(
  • [13:48:14] <jkridner> well, the OMAP3530 installer for the EVM off of www.ti.com/omapsoftwareupdates is what TI officially supports.
  • [13:48:29] <jkridner> everything else is a bit of hack-works.
  • [13:48:55] <sakoman_> is there beagle code in there, or just evm?
  • [13:49:04] <jkridner> so, it is actually pretty bad advise for me to tell you to pull x-load/u-boot off of code.google.com since you are an EVM customer.
  • [13:49:41] <jkridner> just EVM, but there is a Micron memory version.
  • [13:50:03] <jkridner> I'm afraid there could be a few deltas on the MMC/SD support.
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  • [13:51:00] <sakoman_> OK, I'll start with the EVM stuff. I actually need onenand, so the evm xload will be a fine start
  • [13:51:06] <jkridner> I suppose the client board is closer to Beagle in design than the EVM?
  • [13:51:14] <jkridner> k
  • [13:51:22] <sakoman_> midway!
  • [13:51:35] <sakoman_> hence the need to rebuild
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  • [13:54:21] <sakoman_> jkridner: I resolved my problem with kb/mouse not working on a hub by buying a new kb/mouse
  • [13:54:40] <jkridner> were the old ones enumerating at all?
  • [13:54:49] <sakoman_> This beagleboard is getting expensive, new monitor, new kb/mouse
  • [13:54:52] <sakoman_> :-)
  • [13:54:54] <jkridner> :)
  • [13:55:09] <sakoman_> Yes, I was getting usb error -71 though
  • [13:55:39] <sakoman_> Not worth pursuing why at this point. I'll come back to it later some time
  • [13:55:43] <jkridner> My management can be a bit cheap, as most management can be--it is their job, after all.
  • [13:56:20] <sakoman_> In a one person company I'm playing both roles
  • [13:56:25] <jkridner> but, I've still managed to amass a few charges on peripherals to be verified. :)
  • [13:56:44] <sakoman_> So I argue with myself about whether the expense is justified!
  • [13:56:50] <jkridner> well, I probably do as much self-policing as my management does.
  • [13:56:56] <jkridner> :)
  • [13:57:14] <jkridner> I cannot test every Beagle peripheral, though I can certainly tell you I'd like to.
  • [13:57:31] <jkridner> I really think I need to buy a webcam, but I only want to buy one.
  • [13:57:50] <jkridner> I'm waiting for 2-3 people to verify a webcam for Beagle, then I'll add it to my demo kit.
  • [13:58:45] <jkridner> I should really test a bluetooth keyboard too, since that would mean fewer cables in demos.
  • [14:00:04] <jkridner> what I *really* want is http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/07/01/video-hands-on-with-the-ti-pico-projector/
  • [14:01:37] <jkridner> I have no idea what error -71 is.
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  • [14:02:21] <jkridner> I suppose I'll be hearing a lot of it once we announce availability of the boards.
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  • [14:03:27] <sakoman_> pico is cool!
  • [14:03:54] <sakoman_> time to run into town. back later!
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  • [15:04:59] <docelic> hey folks, if I plug in S-Video, should it work out of the box and display on it?
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  • [18:04:27] <sakoman_> koen: in beagleboard-demo-image what events are the leds hooked up to?
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  • [20:17:27] <jkridner> sakoman_: I believe that http://beagleboard.blogspot.com/2008/05/little-things.html shows how you can change the events.
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  • [21:31:54] <jkridner> docelic: yes. you should get an image on the S-Video after a few seconds once you apply power.
  • [21:31:59] <jkridner> it is a test pattern.
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  • [22:57:50] <jkridner> anyone know the latest with serial boot from Linux?
  • [23:26:29] <bjdooks> grr, looks like i'm not going to make it to LRL
  • [23:27:43] <jkridner> :(
  • [23:28:01] <jkridner> I wonder if those guys are back from the pub now. :)
  • [23:28:40] <bjdooks> at least my head has stopped spinning, however my stomach still doesn't feel good
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  • [23:39:40] <jkridner> website going down for 2 minutes or so.
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  • [23:41:31] <jkridner> anyone know how to have git ignore one file when doing a 'pull'?
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  • [23:56:21] * Topic is 'Welcome to #Beagle | Discussion about the OMAP3 Beagle Board - http://beagleboard.org | Beagle search tools are on #dashboard at irc.gimp.org, NOT here ;) | Log is at http://www.beagleboard.org/irclogs'
  • [23:56:21] * Set by jkridner on Tue Jun 10 00:33:18 CDT 2008
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