• [00:53:53] <Crofton|work> http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/893374ac8ff737b4/72650275e52a940c?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=koen+compiler#72650275e52a940c
  • [00:55:52] <mru> I get the feeling gcc is getting buggier by the day
  • [00:57:25] <Crofton> this is bleeding edge stuff
  • [00:57:36] <mru> I'm building a 4.4 snapshot... let's see how that fares
  • [00:58:00] <mru> good thing I have a fast computer
  • [01:01:07] <mru> still crashes with -mfpu=neon
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  • [01:20:20] <mru> ok, gcc 4.2.4 gives me a bootable kernel from linux-omap git
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  • [09:07:48] <koen> good morning all
  • [09:11:35] <DJWillis> Morning koen
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  • [09:50:28] <keesj> hi koen
  • [09:52:07] <keesj> how did it end with the removed x-loader?
  • [09:59:10] <koen> I flashed the correct one to NAND :)
  • [10:11:24] <koen> keesj: I keep reading blog about you giving away usb cables at linuxtag :)
  • [10:12:53] <koen> blogs*
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  • [11:16:11] <keesj> great . I did not find them yet. but if it is my purpose in life . I am happy with it
  • [11:19:02] <keesj> the world famous cables from the albert cuip markt
  • [11:21:41] <koen> for people with a neuros device: http://amethyst.openembedded.net/~koen/neuros/
  • [11:24:38] <keesj> koen: did you see my n800 serial? http://mamona.mmapps.net/n800_serial/pics/img-51.html
  • [11:25:02] <koen> heh
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  • [13:01:40] <sakoman> good morning
  • [13:02:03] <jkridner> good morning
  • [13:02:19] <jkridner> this cold won't die.
  • [13:04:04] <sakoman> summer colds are miserable
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  • [13:07:51] <ldesnogu> it's cold in Texas?
  • [13:08:11] <sakoman> I think he meant he's sick with a cold
  • [13:08:21] <ldesnogu> oh...
  • [13:08:34] <jkridner> correct. I've been sick since Sunday.
  • [13:08:36] <sakoman> English is a wonderfully precise language :-)
  • [13:08:43] <ldesnogu> indeed...
  • [13:09:12] <ldesnogu> jkridner: hope you'll be better soon :)
  • [13:09:13] <jkridner> I slept since about 5PM yesterday to about 6AM this morning.
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  • [13:15:35] <sakoman> jkridner: as promised I reposted the evm images: www.sakoman.net/omap3/evm
  • [13:15:46] <jkridner> thanks.
  • [13:17:11] <sakoman> One I have the autobuilder running, I'll keep them updated on a higher bandwidth site
  • [13:18:36] <sakoman> it's a pain having to use different compilers for u-boot and linux
  • [13:18:37] <jkridner> do you need mirroring support?
  • [13:18:53] <jkridner> (not sure if I could do better than I did on u-boot yesterday :( )
  • [13:19:24] <sakoman> not really, I'll put it on my .com site which has infinite fast bandwidth
  • [13:20:39] <sakoman> (well, way faster than my home dsl uplink)
  • [13:21:04] <sakoman> off for coffee, back later
  • [13:22:58] <koen> jkridner: GWS
  • [13:23:06] <jkridner> thanks.
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  • [13:33:52] <koen> sakoman: your r2 u-boot is working great
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  • [14:01:27] <sakoman> koen: good to hear!
  • [14:01:40] <sakoman> ext2 support is nice to have
  • [14:04:02] <Crofton> grr, I hate session chairs that let talks run long
  • [14:04:08] <Crofton> and cut into my eating time
  • [14:04:33] <koen> sakoman: did you get back to ASoC already?
  • [14:05:00] <sakoman> yes, no real progress to report though
  • [14:05:04] <jkridner> Crofton: did I miss the slides? have you already sent them back to me?
  • [14:05:13] <Crofton> no
  • [14:05:18] <Crofton> I can do that now
  • [14:05:39] <sakoman> I started by merging my evm kernel recipe into linux-omap2
  • [14:06:02] <sakoman> want to make sure things work on both platforms with a minimum of effort
  • [14:06:04] <jkridner> I've been absolutely swamped lately, so you could have told me yes and I wouldn't have been able to contradict you. :)
  • [14:06:49] <koen> sakoman: hopefully we can have a multi-board kernel soon
  • [14:06:56] <koen> so the same uImage works both on evm and beagle
  • [14:07:08] <sakoman> that would be nice
  • [14:07:33] <koen> I have a strong suspicion that tony's patches for that made the boot process more stable
  • [14:08:14] <sakoman> what waas the kernelconfig option for turning off unused clocks?
  • [14:09:01] <koen> root@beagleboard:~# zcat /proc/config.gz | grep CLOCKS
  • [14:09:01] <koen> CONFIG_OMAP_RESET_CLOCKS=y
  • [14:09:07] * koen hugs IKCONFIG
  • [14:09:33] <sakoman> thanks
  • [14:10:01] <Crofton> jkridner, I owe you one. My computer endurance has been really bad this past week
  • [14:10:24] <jkridner> you are promoting OMAP. we are even. :)
  • [14:10:30] <Crofton> yeah
  • [14:10:31] <koen> slides?
  • [14:10:38] <Crofton> for my talk
  • [14:10:45] <jkridner> (maybe I should have waited until they finished opening ;) )
  • [14:10:46] <koen> I know that :)
  • [14:10:49] <Crofton> I sued a number of jkridner's
  • [14:10:54] <koen> link me :)
  • [14:10:56] <Crofton> er used
  • [14:11:01] <Crofton> arm cramping
  • [14:11:10] <keesj> jkridner: btw you suggested I post to the list to get some feedback about the linuxtag stuff. guess what? I did
  • [14:11:35] <jkridner> keesj: thanks. I forwarded the same to Thomas and Jesus...
  • [14:11:40] <jkridner> they replied to me.
  • [14:12:59] * koen is almost out of libtool hell
  • [14:15:11] <Crofton> jkridnerto be fair, I am promoting creating an open community around the OMAP :),
  • [14:15:20] <jkridner> I think they are waiting on me to say when I can deliver the boards. :)
  • [14:16:05] <keesj> :P
  • [14:16:37] <koen> sakoman: I just realised that you have a rev B board and will be able to use one led for NAND activity and the other for MMC activity :)
  • [14:16:38] <keesj> just do like the openmoko people ship with "some assembly required"
  • [14:17:02] <jkridner> well, if anyone could assemble these boards, we wouldn't have these problems.
  • [14:17:15] <Crofton> bga's ....
  • [14:18:18] <sakoman> koen: blinking lights sure are fun :-)
  • [14:19:27] <jkridner> 0.4mm ball pitch BGAs with package-on-package memory.
  • [14:20:09] <Crofton> I won't mention this issue :)
  • [14:20:11] <jkridner> koen, sakoman, please let me know if you seen any annoyances in A5 vs. B differences.
  • [14:20:42] <sakoman> ok
  • [14:20:46] <jkridner> 0.65mm ball-pitch OMAP35x devices will be available to make it more accessible to others.
  • [14:21:16] * Crofton saves this in case anyone asks. I don't think the guy that knows this is here :)
  • [14:21:33] <jkridner> but, Beagle uses the 0.4mm ball-pitch. So, we are limited by what our assembly house can manage. We learned a lesson about accelerating PCB houses when building for 0.4mm ball-pitch as well--don't rush!
  • [14:23:53] <jkridner> Crofton: you didn't even fix my typos. :)
  • [14:24:07] <jkridner> For example, #neuros: discussion ...
  • [14:24:20] <Crofton> ah, that slide is not getting much time
  • [14:24:29] <Crofton> only for reference later
  • [14:24:51] <Crofton> I really needed to consolidate those three into a communication slide
  • [14:25:01] <Crofton> that was a bad day
  • [14:25:22] <Crofton> I was beginning to think about visiting the doctor
  • [14:25:23] <jkridner> Need to figure out how to get you to use a TI AFE. :)
  • [14:25:28] <Crofton> but I am over that phase :)
  • [14:26:52] <Crofton> Naijer is talking I can understand him, even though he has formulas
  • [14:28:07] <Crofton> koen will love this, there is a block called "Data Fusion:
  • [14:36:03] <Crofton> umm, food time
  • [14:36:06] <Crofton> l8r
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  • [15:23:25] <koen> sakoman: IIRC you have also recognizing the mcbsp side of the i2s link, right?
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  • [15:24:57] <dirk2> I just tried to git clone sakoman's uboot git tree.
  • [15:25:01] <dirk2> now I have master
  • [15:25:05] <dirk2> and not test :(
  • [15:25:29] <dirk2> any fast hint how I get test now?
  • [15:32:21] <koen> did you try git remote add -t master -t test sakoman http://www.sakoman.net/git/u-boot-omap3/.git
  • [15:32:24] <koen> ?
  • [15:33:50] <koen> and 'git checkout origin/test
  • [15:33:54] <koen> ' after that
  • [15:34:01] <dirk2> Did cg-clone git://www.sakoman.net/git/u-boot-omap3.git u-boot_steve
  • [15:35:28] <dirk2> And now I have the 'master' branch, but not the 'test' branch with sakoman's changes
  • [15:39:39] <dirk2> I now need the magic "git take the existing master branch and update to test branch" command ;)
  • [15:43:24] <koen> git checkout origin/test did that for me
  • [15:43:28] <koen> with tons of warnings
  • [15:44:53] <sakoman> $ git checkout --track -b <local name> origin/<remote name>
  • [15:45:10] <sakoman> from: http://www.sourcemage.org/Git_Guide
  • [15:46:37] <sakoman> koen: seems to be recognizing mcbsp, but I won't really believe it till I am playing an mp3 :-)
  • [15:47:21] <sakoman> heading out for a visit to Chico, CA Back in a few hours
  • [15:50:08] <koen> is your current patch online somewhere?
  • [16:08:37] <koen> jkridner: has PHY for rev C been selected already?
  • [16:10:47] <koen> weird
  • [16:11:01] <koen> sakoman: with your r{1,2} uboot I don't get the strange hangs on console anymore
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  • [16:17:48] <dirk2> for the records:
  • [16:17:51] <dirk2> git clone git://www.sakoman.net/git/u-boot-omap3.git u-boot_steve
  • [16:18:01] <dirk2> cd u-boot_steve/
  • [16:18:09] <dirk2> git checkout -b beagle origin/test
  • [16:18:16] <dirk2> Thanks for the help!
  • [16:19:01] <dirk2> Now I have to find out why I have these I2C errors.
  • [16:19:11] <dirk2> Will first try various toolchains
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  • [16:29:15] <dirk2> Aargh! Toochain??
  • [16:29:18] <dirk2> gcc version 4.2.3 (Sourcery G++ Lite 2008q1-126)
  • [16:29:29] <dirk2> => timed out in wait_for_bb: I2C_STAT=1000
  • [16:29:48] <dirk2> gcc version 4.2.0 20070413 (prerelease) (CodeSourcery Sourcery G++ Lite 2007q1-10)
  • [16:30:11] <dirk2> => No I2C errors...
  • [16:38:24] <koen> right, 2008q1 sucks from omap3
  • [16:39:40] <dirk2> Hmm, if 2008q1 doesn't get uboot right, then there seems to be something basically wrong...
  • [16:40:38] <koen> if you really want CSL, I'd advice 2007q3
  • [16:42:01] <dirk2> yes, seems I have to add something to http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard#Cortex_A8_ARM
  • [16:43:32] <koen> it is funny that gcc 4.3.0 compiles uboot fine, but breaks the kernel (crash in rcu)
  • [16:44:06] <dirk2> You use different toolchains for uboot and kernel?
  • [16:44:44] <koen> I compile everything with 4.2.4 in armv6 mode and uboot with 4.3.0 in armv7 mode
  • [16:45:20] <dirk2> I will try if 2007q3 is fine for both
  • [16:45:24] <suihkulokki> recent CSL and mainline 4.3 have been sources of much more problems than mainline 4.2.x
  • [16:45:42] <suihkulokki> 2007q3 is fine except for neon
  • [16:46:23] <koen> 2008q1 is great if you don't mind everything segfaulting
  • [16:46:32] <dirk2> At the moment for me fine == stable code ;)
  • [16:50:57] <NishanthMenon> kind of curious.. unless you are doing USB, do u really need i2c in u-boot?
  • [16:51:54] <koen> isn't sd behind the twl?
  • [16:52:11] <NishanthMenon> yes.. only for CD
  • [16:52:11] * koen is waiting for 2.6.26-rc5 to land
  • [16:52:31] <koen> and the new smartreflex patchset from kalle
  • [16:52:37] <NishanthMenon> hmm...
  • [16:54:15] <NishanthMenon> kind of thinking.. when u bootup.. mmc power is already set by ROM Code.. so all u need a 1 bit access to the card.. u can try to run cmd0 and if it fails.. assume no useful card.. (thinking of avoiding i2c ops)
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  • [18:17:37] <Crofton> ok, I survived presentation
  • [18:17:42] <Crofton> lots of guys taking notes
  • [18:24:22] <koen> where are the slides?
  • [18:25:44] <Crofton> I'll put them on my website in a buit
  • [18:25:53] <Crofton> need to check with jkridner first though
  • [18:26:09] <ds2> when will the first signal get demod'ed on on a beagle and recorded as a wave get posted? :)
  • [19:04:53] <jkridner|work> Crofton: I'm fine with the slides you sent me
  • [19:05:17] <jkridner|work> would like to see some clean-up/improvements on the ones that came from me, but I didn't see any issues. :)
  • [19:05:31] <jkridner|work> (please share)
  • [19:11:04] <koen> my beagle has been up for 9 hours without the serial console freezing
  • [19:12:09] <koen> funny how a bootloader can make such a difference
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  • [19:44:13] <keesj> like good memory refresh rates :p
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  • [20:59:48] <prpplague> jkridner|work: they doing much hiring in the omap dev area at TI these days?
  • [21:08:25] <sakoman> koen: I'm glad to hear that your console is reliable now! Have you run into any other u-boot issues?
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  • [21:56:55] <sakoman> koen: turning off unused clocks takes current draw from 345 to 340 ma measured at the console-image login prompt.
  • [21:57:43] <sakoman> FWIW, current is 250 ma at the u-boot prompt
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  • [22:11:36] <jkridner|work> I wouldn't say we are looking to hire away our community, but I think, like in all good companies, there are always positions for the right people if there is a match.
  • [22:16:59] <jkridner|work> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=TUYOjRGYeYU
  • [22:18:11] <prpplague> jkridner|work: cute
  • [22:18:17] <prpplague> jkridner|work: nice big sign
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  • [22:26:39] <jkridner|work> also a couple of new photos: http://www.flickr.com/groups/beagleboard/
  • [22:26:47] * prpplague looks
  • [22:30:24] <prpplague> nice
  • [22:30:29] * prpplague heads home for the day
  • [22:30:31] <prpplague> later folks
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