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  • [00:00:27] * Set by KotH!~attila@erica.kinali.ch on Wed Jul 15 13:55:07 UTC 2015
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  • [00:03:48] <Martyn> downloading the Beagleboard demo image
  • [00:03:54] <Martyn> I really, REALLY don't want to run Angstrom though :()
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  • [00:20:58] <veremit> anyjoy?
  • [00:22:57] <Martyn> NONE
  • [00:23:13] <Martyn> I hate to say it .. but this thing may be "bricked" bricked
  • [00:23:19] <Martyn> All it prints is 40V, 40V
  • [00:24:34] <veremit> that must mean something
  • [00:24:44] <veremit> any yet you got a partial boot even with a kernel panic before
  • [00:24:54] <veremit> and* yet
  • [00:26:44] <Martyn> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/beagleboard/VZfw9MkjUEY/vHe6acMbp3EJ
  • [00:26:47] <Martyn> I get the same result as this guy did
  • [00:26:52] <Martyn> after doing an nvram erase.chip
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  • [00:28:28] <veremit> Martyn: have you seen http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/BeagleBoardDiagnostics .. perhaps you wanna follow that through?
  • [00:31:18] <veremit> Martyn: also http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardRecovery
  • [00:35:33] <Martyn> Still printing 40V
  • [00:35:37] <Martyn> -thinks-
  • [00:36:37] <Martyn> BRB -- rebooting
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  • [00:46:47] <Martyn> Figured it out, kind of
  • [00:46:47] <Martyn> corrupted SD card
  • [00:47:17] <veremit> lol now -thats- typical
  • [00:47:36] <ayjay> okay so i was trying to download the old debian/angstrom images to load on the BBB to see how things had changed
  • [00:47:49] <ayjay> but the old images don't have anything in the boot directory
  • [00:47:53] <ayjay> anyone know what gives?
  • [00:48:13] <veremit> ayjay - they used a totalyl different boot process
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  • [00:51:16] <ayjay> hasn't the whole uEnv.txt thing been around since the beginning?
  • [00:51:23] <Martyn> no
  • [00:51:41] <Martyn> the original beagleboard did not have uEnv.txt, and it can't support loading vmlinuz files directly
  • [00:51:49] <Martyn> you have to have uImage formatted kernels
  • [00:52:16] <Martyn> so they are loaded from MMC
  • [00:52:19] <veremit> and the uEnv data was compiled into a boot.scr binary file
  • [00:52:29] <Martyn> or saved to the NAND
  • [00:52:49] <Martyn> which is what I'm running into
  • [00:52:55] <veremit> and saved in nand :)
  • [00:53:00] <Martyn> Older hardware shouldn't be forgotten :)
  • [00:53:13] <ayjay> wait wait wait wait so I can't just burn the images on to a uSD and hold the boot button to flash the eMMC?
  • [00:53:29] <Martyn> on a beagleboard? -=-what-=- emmc :)
  • [00:53:34] <ayjay> SORRY
  • [00:53:35] <Martyn> The things don't have much ...
  • [00:53:43] <ayjay> no i said BBB
  • [00:53:49] <Martyn> Ohhhh ... BBB
  • [00:54:22] <veremit> ayjay .. you could run into problems fast-forwarding and fast-reversing between versions .. forward you're probably ok, but can't guarantee going back will work
  • [00:55:07] <ayjay> veremit: i got my BBB 2+ years ago so I think it'll work with 2013 images
  • [00:55:32] <veremit> Official releases are here: http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#2015-11-03
  • [00:55:59] <ayjay> veremit: the bonescript library doesn't work out of the box with the new debian image so i'm looking to fork and request a pull on it but I want to do some double checking on the versions thats why I'm trying to use the old images
  • [00:56:02] <veremit> most recent updates with new Debian Jessie are here: http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#Jessie_Snapshot_lxqt
  • [00:56:42] <veremit> ah I don't think anyone here can help with bonescript
  • [00:56:58] <veremit> you probably want to switch to #beagle-bonescript channel
  • [00:57:03] <ayjay> well, that's fine, but i was really surprised that on http://beagleboard.org/latest-images the images (except the newest) have no uEnv.txt file
  • [00:57:26] <veremit> yeah I wouldn't entirely trust the latest-images link ..
  • [00:57:34] <ayjay> ah is that the way it is?
  • [00:58:43] <veremit> although .. perhaps jkridner has fixed that page up properly now ..
  • [00:59:04] <veremit> it looks MUCH better than it was
  • [01:00:32] <ayjay> sigh I was excited that there was an official bonescript channel but I am not its sole inhabitant
  • [01:00:34] <veremit> although RN has trumped it on the elinux wiki lol
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  • [03:32:23] <ds2> 40V is fine
  • [03:32:28] <ds2> 40V means it is NOT bricked
  • [03:32:44] <ds2> that is the version signature for UART booting from the SoC
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  • [04:37:58] <yates> i'm trying to get my dram test code to work but am getting dabort exceptions.
  • [04:38:24] <yates> i explain it in some detail here: http://www.digitalsignallabs.com/flat.txt
  • [04:38:52] <yates> can someone help?
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  • [04:41:40] <yates> btw, matt, your stack pointer initialization in your code made some unnecessary assumptions which cost me a lot of time.
  • [04:42:21] <yates> namely, that .pushsection stuff.
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  • [05:27:37] <yates> i've also posted this in the ti e2e site. it may make more sense to answer there: https://e2e.ti.com/support/arm/sitara_arm/f/791/t/482207
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  • [07:06:47] <ayjay> is it just me or are all the images on the element14 website rendered at like 20% quality
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  • [07:25:29] <raja> Hi
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  • [08:38:18] <torpico> what is the user and password for debian image on beaglebone black?
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  • [11:29:40] <yates> zmatt: ^^^^
  • [11:30:22] <yates> torpico: you mean for root? it is blank, typically. just enter return at the password prompt.
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  • [11:40:03] <torpico> I have installed debian image in my beaglebone black. I want to connect to itfrom another computer via ssh. is this possible from another computer?
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  • [12:12:02] <torpico> yates: do you know the answer of my question?
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  • [12:25:50] <zmatt> torpico: debian / temppwd
  • [12:27:13] <zmatt> yates: ugh, why would you write the entire test in asm... (note that my original example was in pure asm only cause someone specifically asked for a pure-asm baremetal example, I personally do not think it helps readability)
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  • [12:28:53] <zmatt> yates: and I'm not gonna read all that stuff
  • [12:29:40] <zmatt> you're still doing misaligned stores though
  • [12:30:08] <zmatt> (which would be allowed if the MMU were enabled and the memory type set to normal, but this isn't the case)
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  • [12:31:41] <zmatt> str is a 32-bit store, while you're incrementing the address by 2, hence the second iteration aborts
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  • [12:39:06] <torpico> zmatt: thanks. I have installed debian image in my beaglebone black. I want to connect to itfrom another computer via ssh. is this possible from another computer?
  • [12:40:56] <torpico> ssh root@192.168.7.2
  • [12:40:56] <torpico> ssh: connect to host 192.168.7.2 port 22: Connection refused
  • [12:41:01] <torpico> it gave me this
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  • [12:43:34] <zmatt> is it connected via usb?
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  • [12:44:31] <zmatt> also, you probably can't ssh as root, use username debian, password temppwd
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  • [12:54:14] <torpico> zmatt: yes via usb.
  • [12:56:31] <torpico> zmatt: I want someone from another pc connect to my beaglebone black. can s/he do that while th BBB is connected to my pc not him
  • [12:56:37] <torpico> ?
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  • [13:02:39] <zmatt> complicated, I would recommend connecting the BBB to ethernet for that
  • [13:02:53] <zmatt> (it will acquire an address via DHCP)
  • [13:03:28] <zmatt> I'm afk for a bit
  • [13:14:40] <torpico> zmatt: when I type http://192.168.7.2/ in my chrome browser it asks me username an password. what should I write? and what is this http://192.168.7.2/ address?
  • [13:15:11] <torpico> I read manual but it didn't give me the clue I needed.
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  • [13:47:06] <torpico> guys, those here structions means I can connect to BBB via another computer (while it is connected via usb and Ethernet to my computer) ?
  • [13:47:11] <torpico> http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:Terminal_Shells#SSH:_Setting_up_a_Static_IP
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  • [13:47:25] <Drexter> help
  • [13:48:11] <Drexter> unable to start my beaglebone black
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  • [13:49:17] <ali_> JOIN
  • [13:49:24] <ali_> HELP
  • [13:50:17] <ali_> ??
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  • [13:56:01] <torpico> heeeeeeeey? any one in here?
  • [13:56:16] <torpico> those here structions means I can connect to BBB via another computer (while it is connected via usb and Ethernet to my computer) ? http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:Terminal_Shells#SSH:_Setting_up_a_Static_IP
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  • [14:10:05] <tbr> http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
  • [14:11:45] <tbr> torpico: those instructions presume that you have a way to access the BBB, either by ssh or by serial console. Also assigning a static IP shouldn't be necessary if DHCP is working.
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  • [14:24:10] <H-H-H> and please also note people in here are not paid to help they volunteer thier time and knowledge so please be patient and if someone can help they will
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  • [14:31:13] <torpico> tbr: in abstraction I have installed debian in my beaglebone black - I have access to it via minicom - after I use command "if config" it shows it has DHCP connection - I have an ethernet cable too but still not connected it to BBB /////// now I want someone from another PC connect to my BBB. But I don't want give him my bbb. My question is this: how I should do this?
  • [14:31:43] <H-H-H> conect over the net?
  • [14:32:12] <H-H-H> need to forward whatever port you need ie ssh or web or whatever in your router to your bbb ip
  • [14:32:51] <tbr> or connect ethernet to the other laptop and bbb and indeed manually configure the interfaces with some IP addresses from a common subnet that doesn't collide
  • [14:33:32] <H-H-H> that will only work on lan though?
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  • [14:36:45] <tbr> obviously
  • [14:36:56] <tbr> I'm still a bit unclear what torpico is up to
  • [14:40:31] <torpico> what this do? http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:Terminal_Shells#SSH:_Setting_up_a_Static_IP ? shouldn't I do these structions for DHCP?
  • [14:41:45] <tbr> torpico: first you should get a clue about what you are trying to do in general
  • [14:41:58] <tbr> you don't start bulding a house by constructing the roof
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  • [14:42:54] <tbr> To achieve that it would really help you for the future if you'd spend some time trying to understand how IP networking works
  • [14:43:17] <av500> magic?
  • [14:43:39] <tbr> and duct tape, lots of duct tape
  • [14:44:32] <torpico> tbr: someone else wants to use my bbb as a node for their cloud system. I want him to access my BBB, but without having bbb in his hand
  • [14:45:04] <tbr> torpico: so are you at the same desk? in the same building? on the same planet?
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  • [14:49:54] <torpico> tbr: yes, same desk
  • [14:50:25] <tbr> ok and his laptop has a RJ-45 LAN port?
  • [14:50:39] <tbr> is it in use or is it available?
  • [14:53:08] <torpico> Yes have that port
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  • [15:50:46] <zmatt> tbr: AppleTalk was really so much easier
  • [15:50:56] <tbr> hehe
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  • [15:53:30] <zmatt> seriously, I know under the hood there were things like network ids, node ids, ports and shit like that but even as developer you never really needed to deal with them. Name (string), service (string), and on larger networks Zone (string).
  • [15:55:13] <zmatt> for LANs, TCP/IP is still far behind
  • [15:55:53] <zmatt> (in theory all the pieces are there, in practice they may not be installed, working, or supported properly by applications)
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  • [16:00:55] <zmatt> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdXp6qLSoTE :P
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  • [19:10:30] <Humpelst1lzchen> jkridner: you are seroius with your quote to ROS on hackaday?
  • [19:10:37] <jkridner> yeah.
  • [19:10:41] <Humpelst1lzchen> neat
  • [19:10:50] <jkridner> With the recent work to put ROS on Jessie, I don't feel bad committing to it.
  • [19:11:56] <jkridner> We'll definitely have people play with the integration of ROS in the next few weeks, well ahead of the May launch.
  • [19:14:08] <Humpelst1lzchen> will see :)
  • [19:19:05] <konstunn> Hi. I've build u-boot for beagle. Now I'm trying to run u-boot on qemu. Want to get the u-boot shell prompt. But I'm stuck.
  • [19:19:05] <konstunn> Instructions from here (http://www.cnx-software.com/2011/09/26/beagleboard-emulator-in-ubuntu-with-qemu/) worked flawlessly . But I want to get u-boot shell only.
  • [19:20:57] <konstunn> ...I've also built qemu-linaro from sources to make support beagle. Fuh.
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  • [21:23:01] <eliasbakken> So I'm still in the market for an early splash logo for BBB. I do have that working from u-boot, but the image disappears as soon as the kernel starts. I'm assuming this is some sort of clock/pin/power reset happening as a part of the board init process. So I guess it is back to the drawing board on this one.
  • [21:25:31] <eliasbakken> Therefore, my question is this: What happened to the early framebuffer? From what I can tell BBB inits LCDC and TDA998x some 11 seconds into the boot...
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  • [21:28:38] <eliasbakken> That would not have been a problem if the kernel did not also kill my LCDC + TDA998x initialization.
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  • [22:10:20] <eliasbakken> I'm poking around in the kernel config and I've come across a thing called simple frame-buffer. To me, this looks like exactly what I need: "This driver assumes that the display hardware has been initialized before the kernel boots, and the kernel will simply render to the pre-allocated frame buffer surface."
  • [22:10:50] <eliasbakken> Has anyone seen or played with something like this?
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  • [22:31:13] <vagrantc> eliasbakken: i've worked with that a bit on sunxi systems ... requires a u-boot or other bootloader to configure the framebuffer
  • [22:32:06] <eliasbakken> vagrantc: Yeah, I've got that working, but as soon as the kernel starts, everything is lost.
  • [22:32:26] <vagrantc> eliasbakken: it needs support in u-boot separate from u-boot's framebuffer support
  • [22:32:49] <vagrantc> eliasbakken: it sounds like you got u-boot's framebuffer support working
  • [22:33:02] <eliasbakken> simple-framebuffer needs to be supported in u-bot?
  • [22:33:14] <vagrantc> eliasbakken: but you need to also write code to get u-boot to set up the simple-framebuffer that linux will then assume is all configured and ready to use
  • [22:33:55] <vagrantc> "display hardware has been initialized before the kernel boots"
  • [22:34:07] <vagrantc> where would you do that other than the bootloader?
  • [22:34:41] <eliasbakken> Yeah. Like I said, I've been working on it for a few days now, and I have the LCDC + HDMI framer set up for BBB.
  • [22:35:40] <vagrantc> like i said, i've used simple-framebuffer on sunxi systems, and it sets up the simple-framebuffer from u-boot.
  • [22:35:53] <eliasbakken> OK, great!
  • [22:36:05] <eliasbakken> Or not great, but thanks for letting me know!
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  • [22:36:48] <eliasbakken> From what I've read, the simple framebuffer also needs to be configured in the DT, right?
  • [22:37:08] <vagrantc> yes
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  • [23:02:14] <yates> does the am335x power in in Thumb state or in ARM state?
  • [23:02:54] <yates> also, what is the CFGTE input discussed in the A8 TRM?
  • [23:03:05] <yates> input to WHAT?
  • [23:03:47] <yates> s/power in in/power on in/
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  • [23:23:28] <eliasbakken> Vagrantc: So the simple-framebuffer node needs to be set up in the DT of both u-boot and the kernel, and match, is there anything else? I see there is some reference in the sunxi_display driver that the memory is reserved for the kernel, is that waht you are referring to?
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  • [23:26:09] <vagrantc> eliasbakken: i haven't actually read any of the code, but simply grepping through u-boot sources for simple-framebuffer and simplefb seem to produce some files to explore.
  • [23:26:27] <vagrantc> looks like raspberrypi also may use simplefb
  • [23:26:59] <vagrantc> that's about as much information as i have on the subject
  • [23:28:01] <eliasbakken> Yes, I did that! Thanks, I'll digg a bit deeper then!
  • [23:28:22] <vagrantc> good luck!
  • [23:33:34] <zmatt> yates: it powers up in ARM state, although that's not particularly important since it powers up in secure world. entry of public ROM is also in ARM state, as is entry of the program (or secondary loader) loaded by public ROM
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  • [23:35:18] <zmatt> both pubrom and secrom are a mix of ARM and Thumb code, and appear to have been produced using different compilers and then linked together, no idea why
  • [23:38:43] <zmatt> the CFGTE input is an input to the cortex-a8 processor (presumably tied off low in TI's instantiations of it)
  • [23:40:57] <zmatt> note that I can't actually be *certain* of its value on the am335x either, but overall the ROM appears to be closely related to that of the dm814x and there secrom was readable (hence I know it starts up in ARM mode)
  • [23:51:10] <zmatt> eliasbakken: the kernel should not be loading the tilcdc driver or touch the lcdc peripheral unless there's a DT node for it
  • [23:51:53] <zmatt> eliasbakken: using simple-framebuffer is an option if you want the kernel to be able to use the framebuffer you set up
  • [23:52:14] <zmatt> the memory used for it needs to be reserved either way obviously
  • [23:53:36] <zmatt> omitting or disabling the lcdc DT node (or blacklisting the driver if compiled as module) and reserving the framebuffer memory should suffice to keep the kernel from messing with your splash
  • [23:55:00] <zmatt> ohh wait, it may indeed
  • [23:55:13] <zmatt> but then simple-framebuffer isn't going to save you either
  • [23:55:41] <zmatt> it will by default disable all 'unused' modules
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