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  • [00:00:37] * Set by KotH!~attila@erica.kinali.ch on Wed Jul 15 13:55:07 UTC 2015
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  • [00:15:25] <ds2> the am335x has a firewall?
  • [00:18:07] <veremit> yup internal to the dual-ethernet iirc.
  • [00:19:02] <ds2> hmmm?
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  • [00:25:52] <zmatt> ok wtf is going on with my wifi
  • [00:26:01] <veremit> wb?
  • [00:26:01] <zmatt> veremit: no I'm talking about interconnect firewalls
  • [00:26:18] <veremit> ahh .. chip internals. my bad. lol.
  • [00:27:37] <zmatt> the ethernet switch has no particular firewalling capabilities, beyond things like blocking a particular MAC address
  • [00:28:38] <zmatt> ds2: this is news to you?
  • [00:30:00] <zmatt> I think every L3 peripheral/subsystem has a firewall
  • [00:30:20] <veremit> I'da thought over a certain complexity it was needed
  • [00:30:23] <zmatt> EMIF has a firewall on RAM
  • [00:30:45] <zmatt> the L4 interconnects have firewalling, though less expressive
  • [00:31:29] <zmatt> EDMA has built-in memory protection support also, but unfortunately rendered mostly useless since you can't (afaik) assign initiators to a different security domain (MReqDomain), they're all stuck at zero
  • [00:32:36] <zmatt> there are local firewalls inside the cortex-a8 subsystem also, keeping you from reading secrom or accessing the first 1 KB of its local SRAM
  • [00:43:29] <zmatt> mapping the firewalls is still on my to-do list for the am335x (which L3 area they cover, how many regions they support, which metadata they have available to differentiate requests, etc)
  • [00:44:00] <zmatt> the L4 protection regions are already in my memory map spreadsheet
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  • [01:00:04] <zmatt> ds2: http://gerbil.xs4all.nl/firewall.h.html
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  • [01:09:34] <veremit> gerbil :) heh
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  • [01:16:21] <zmatt> the L4 interconnects have at least one protection region for each peripheral, plus one for each block of interconnect registers
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  • [01:17:38] <zmatt> but you can only assign each to one of a small number of protection groups (typically 8), each of which is a fairly basic filter
  • [01:17:57] <zmatt> you can't even grant read-only access to some initiator, it's either full-access or no-access
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  • [01:26:03] <zmatt> these mechanisms really deserve to be more well-known and widely used... e.g. peripherals can usually not be shared by multiple cores, and the gpu ought to be limited to writing to its designated memory areas
  • [01:27:01] <zmatt> not quite as important yet on the am335x, but on the x15 you'll otherwise go nuts trying to debug an issue caused by one of the countless cores and DMA engines making some incorrect write and clobbering your state
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  • [01:41:25] <ds2> zmatt: thought that was removed in the am335x.
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  • [01:45:58] <zmatt> eh, no?
  • [01:46:26] <zmatt> they just didn't bother giving the am335x a decent TRM chapter documenting its interconnect
  • [01:46:35] <ds2> oh it is undocumented?
  • [01:46:55] <ds2> seem to recall it being tied in with the DSS
  • [01:47:37] <zmatt> ??
  • [01:48:17] <zmatt> it has nothing to do with the DSS in particular, though I guess on HS omaps DSS will often be protected
  • [01:48:32] <zmatt> it's undocumented in the am335x TRM
  • [01:48:45] <zmatt> pretty decently documented in the dm814x and omap4/5 TRMs
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  • [06:50:37] <beginner> hello~
  • [06:50:47] <beginner> anybody here?
  • [06:50:57] <beginner> i just bought bbb
  • [06:51:12] <beginner> and i wanna use opencv
  • [06:51:29] <beginner> so how do i do if i wanna
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  • [06:53:41] <vagrantc> beginner: what have you tried so far? have you searched for howtos online?
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  • [06:54:25] <vagrantc> https://duckduckgo.com/?q=beaglebone+black+opencv
  • [06:55:05] <vagrantc> i have no idea how it works, but one of those links might get you started
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  • [06:58:27] * vagrantc tried
  • [06:58:48] <veremit> everryone want solutions on a plate .. in an instant.
  • [06:58:54] <veremit> sooo lazy ...
  • [06:59:15] * vagrantc suspects beginner had already disconnected before i responded
  • [06:59:37] <veremit> yes I think so .. 240s = 4min no?
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  • [07:44:50] <zmatt> it seems the moment I feared has finally arrived...
  • [07:45:05] <zmatt> I really need to take a closer look at what the fuck is going on with usb :/
  • [07:46:24] <tbr> my condolences, was nice knowing you
  • [07:46:59] <zmatt> thanks
  • [07:51:43] <zmatt> this is what I got when I connected a mouse to my laptop via a USB protocol analyzer: http://gerbil.xs4all.nl/laptop-usb-mouse.png
  • [07:52:04] <zmatt> same thing but connected to a BBB instead: http://gerbil.xs4all.nl/bbb-usb-mouse.png
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  • [08:50:20] <veremit> zmatt: have fun!!! :D
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  • [12:06:48] <simha> Hi good evening all !!!
  • [12:07:26] <simha> is there PRU gpio toggle application support with CCS for beaglebone ?
  • [12:08:03] <simha> any one can suggest how can i make c application on the same...
  • [12:11:17] <tbr> I don't think many people here would use CCS. you'll probably find enough source example on the internet though, no idea if they will work with ccs.
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  • [12:31:06] <simha> thanks @tbr
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  • [12:31:42] <simha> no problem even normal c application also ok..
  • [12:32:08] <simha> i need to make gpiotoggle using c application ..
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  • [14:35:42] <Ragnorok> I'm trying to build kernel 3.8.13-bone71-lsm303 using the beyondlogic wiki page, which works for kernel 4.1. On the step to make bb.org_defconfig it fails. Other sites mention a different defconfig but when I look in arch/arm/configs I see nothing else that looks appropriate. Could someone toss me a clue? (grin)
  • [14:40:07] <stt_michael> there isn't a "beagle" or "am335x" board config?
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  • [14:42:51] <Ragnorok> Further research indicates omap2plus_defconfig may work.
  • [14:45:41] <stt_michael> yeah nothing in mainline
  • [14:45:43] <Ragnorok> Except it gets the same recursive dependency error. I suspect the issues in Kconfig, not the defconfig. Sorta new at this kernel build thing. Other than finding others with issues building this version, and newer versions working correctly, I see naught.
  • [14:46:18] <stt_michael> https://github.com/beagleboard/linux is official
  • [14:46:31] <stt_michael> and there's probably a TI one too...
  • [14:46:39] <Ragnorok> Right. Both my versions came from there.
  • [14:47:28] <Ragnorok> The Branch drop-down has the 3.8.13-bone71-lsm303 I'm failing on.
  • [14:47:38] <stt_michael> http://wiki.beyondlogic.org/index.php?title=BeagleBoneBlack_Building_Kernel .. these instructions?
  • [14:47:43] <Ragnorok> Yup.
  • [14:48:46] <stt_michael> I see config for the lsm kernel there.. so... what error do you get?
  • [14:49:28] <Ragnorok> drivers/video/Kconfig:60:error: recursive dependency detected!
  • [14:50:32] <stt_michael> hmm bugger.
  • [14:50:43] <Ragnorok> Sadly I can't copy/paste from here. It gets to HOLDLD scripts/kconfig/conf, then this error.
  • [14:51:06] <stt_michael> you've definitely done a 'make clean' before .. so there's no stray files?
  • [14:51:14] <Ragnorok> Just did as a matter of fack.
  • [14:51:17] <Ragnorok> t.
  • [14:51:22] <stt_michael> :) ok cool
  • [14:51:35] <Ragnorok> brb. Hitting the coffee machine.
  • [14:51:37] <stt_michael> well .. I'd defer to rcn-ee as he's good at kernels .. but he's AWOL ..
  • [14:51:51] <stt_michael> unless he's sick :p
  • [14:53:53] <Ragnorok> Yeah. I was hoping tab-complete would turn him up, but alas.
  • [14:54:54] <stt_michael> he's been in/out .. less in and more out
  • [14:55:01] <stt_michael> !seen rcn-ee
  • [14:55:05] <stt_michael> oh damnit .. no bot
  • [14:55:22] <Ragnorok> Dang.
  • [14:56:10] <stt_michael> * rcn-ee has quit (Quit: Leaving)
  • [14:56:17] <stt_michael> that was Weds
  • [14:56:20] <stt_michael> at ..
  • [14:56:43] <stt_michael> 11pm mytime .. and its 3pm now .. so .. 8 hours hence yesterday
  • [14:57:07] <Ragnorok> That's not so long. Guy needs to sleep and all. Maybe he'll be back later.
  • [14:57:49] <stt_michael> he will probably be around soon .. my logs say he was about about this time yesterday
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  • [15:04:35] <Ragnorok> One site suggested this is a warning. It seems it may be - the next step is in process. Go figure.
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  • [15:09:16] <stt_michael> heh
  • [15:27:07] <Ragnorok> Almost. INSTALL_MOD_PATH has no target.
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  • [15:30:19] <Ragnorok> Ah. PEBCAK.
  • [15:30:32] <Ragnorok> \o/
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  • [15:47:09] <eliasbakken> I have a question about kernel, systemd and graphics. I'm using the eMMC flasher script that Robert C Nelson and Charles Steinkuehler has developed, and I'd like to display an image on the screen during the eMMC flashing. I've had this working before, but for some reason letting the script take over the boot process renders the screen dark. Is there something that systemd does that enables the hdmi/display during start-up? Shouldn't this be completely
  • [15:47:09] <eliasbakken> handled by the kernel?
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  • [16:00:39] <zmatt> eliasbakken: is the screen off / no signal, or merely black?
  • [16:01:03] <zmatt> try writing some data to /dev/fb0
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  • [16:04:45] <zmatt> the screen will be black by default if there's no console (e.g. getty) nor graphics application (e.g. X11) running, it may be off due to automatic screen blanking / powersaving (or due to hdmi being disabled in kernel or device tree of course, but I'm assuming you're using a set that has hdmi enabled)
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  • [16:06:21] <zmatt> if the screen is merely black you can simply freely scribble onto /dev/fb0 to make it appear, if screen blanking or powersaving has been activated then it somehow needs to be poked alive
  • [16:06:59] <zmatt> still not sure how to do that, I've tried passing consoleblank=0 as kernel parameter but it either seems to be ignored or overridden by something
  • [16:07:50] <eliasbakken> zmatt: Yeah, i'm passing consoleblank=0 as kernel param, let me try without...
  • [16:08:18] <zmatt> consoleblank=0 actually means "do not blank the screen"
  • [16:08:21] <zmatt> so that's what you want
  • [16:08:25] <zmatt> if it worked
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  • [16:10:08] <eliasbakken> Is it not "do not go to sleep mode"?
  • [16:10:54] <zmatt> it's how long to wait before blanking the console when idle, with 0 meaning automatic blanking is disabled
  • [16:11:00] <zmatt> that's at least what it's supposed to do
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  • [16:12:26] <zmatt> running a qt application on the framebuffer (using QT_QPA_PLATFORM=linuxfb) does however manage to disable blanking, so there's probably some ioctl on the framebuffer device for it
  • [16:13:28] <eliasbakken> I'm starting an application on the frame buffer, similar to Qt (Clutter)
  • [16:14:34] <eliasbakken> I'm starting an application on the frame buffer, similar to Qt (Clutter) "console=tty0 console=ttyO0,115200n8"
  • [16:15:10] <eliasbakken> I'm seeing some strange stuff on the kernel command line. "console=tty0 console=ttyO0,115200n8"
  • [16:15:41] <zmatt> the first one got is bogus and probably got there by accident, the second one configures a serial console
  • [16:15:55] <zmatt> that's typical, otherwise you get all boot messages and crap like that via hdmi
  • [16:16:15] <eliasbakken> Ah, ok.
  • [16:16:52] <eliasbakken> I'll try to revert what I did with the u-boot config, that probably screwed that up.
  • [16:17:21] <zmatt> on a no-X11 config, if I disable all autovts in logind.conf I just get a black screen
  • [16:17:31] <zmatt> but one that's responsive to writes to the framebuffer
  • [16:18:54] <eliasbakken> I actually wanted to change the console to ttyS0, to see if I could get kernel messages on the HDMI during the flashing process...
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  • [16:19:21] <zmatt> then you should use tty1
  • [16:20:02] <zmatt> blanking seems to be controllable via the FBIOBLANK ioctl() on the framebuffer device
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  • [16:22:19] <zmatt> ioctl( fd, FBIOBLANK, FB_BLANK_UNBLANK ); or something like that
  • [16:23:29] <zmatt> rcn-ee: plugging a mouse into laptop vs bbb via usb analyzer hardware:
  • [16:23:31] <zmatt> http://gerbil.xs4all.nl/laptop-usb-mouse.png
  • [16:23:36] <zmatt> http://gerbil.xs4all.nl/bbb-usb-mouse.png
  • [16:24:55] <rcn-ee> only a few sync errors. ;)
  • [16:25:25] <zmatt> the red lines with "I" in error column are wrong pid (DATA0 vs DATA1)
  • [16:25:39] <zmatt> :P
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  • [16:27:48] <zmatt> I also disabled grouping the transactions into logical transfers like I did on my laptop since on the BBB the analyzer had trouble with that and caused it to reorder entries out of chronological order
  • [16:28:01] <zmatt> (there are still a few entries out of order, not sure why)
  • [16:28:30] <zmatt> no idea what sync error means
  • [16:28:56] <rcn-ee> endian?
  • [16:30:01] <zmatt> ??
  • [16:30:47] <zmatt> wait, a mouse is a low-speed device, so the bus turnaround erratum applies to that and may be confusing the heck out of the analyzer
  • [16:31:21] <zmatt> I need a full-speed-but-not-high-speed device to test... hmz..
  • [16:32:06] <zmatt> (there's a debugfs thing to force to post to full-speed instead of high-speed but it seems to do absolutely nothing, and the analyzer can't handle high-speed)
  • [16:32:16] <zmatt> *to force the port
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  • [16:47:01] <zmatt> rcn-ee: has there been any mainline work on musb as far as you know?
  • [16:47:46] <zmatt> or has everyone fled the scene in horror? :P
  • [16:47:48] <rcn-ee> zmatt, no, it's been pretty quiet, the only thing that's changed is the dma backend for musb (allowing multilple versions to be built vs just one..)
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  • [16:48:11] <rcn-ee> zmatt, and the sunxi guys are using musb now too..
  • [16:48:11] <rcn-ee> ;)
  • [16:48:56] <zmatt> I have some cam that really totally borks up on the bbb (with or without hub)
  • [16:49:37] <zmatt> including free kernel oopses if you disconnect it to kill the hanging uvccapture
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  • [16:50:28] <Ragnorok> rcn-ee: I'm wanting to build BeagleLogic in a new kernel, say 4.1.13. I see a lot of symbol overlap between pru_rproc in 3.8.x and pruss_remoteproc in 4.1.x, but so far no function / struct overlap. Does it seem reasonable to extract common symbols and have a whack at building?
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  • [16:51:56] <zmatt> but there's also an odd thing, usb seems to enable auto-suspend by default on the bbb, it doesn't do that on my laptop and I recall reading somewhere that linux disables autosuspend by default because too many usb devices bork up on it (it definitely makes the cam behaviour worse)
  • [16:52:30] <Ragnorok> Poo. Function collision. There it is. If it was easy....
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  • [16:53:27] <zmatt> wb
  • [16:54:04] <rcn-ee> Ragnorok, 3.8 -> 4.1.x is already a big move, save the "uio_pruss" -> remoteproc_pruss for 4.4.x now (or when it gets to mainline)..
  • [16:54:55] <Ragnorok> rcn-ee: Kinda on short time. Seems like I should just use 3.8.x and move up later, then?
  • [16:55:44] <rcn-ee> Ragnorok, 4.1.x-bone with uio_pruss should be a pretty close drop-in replacment for 3.8.x-uio_pruss.. ;)
  • [16:56:05] <Ragnorok> I did't see a -bone in the repo.
  • [16:56:26] <rcn-ee> https://github.com/RobertCNelson/bb-kernel/tree/am33x-v4.1
  • [16:56:36] <Ragnorok> Ah. Donkies!
  • [16:58:12] <rcn-ee> Ragnorok, Elias Bakken's did the uio_pruss work on 4.1.x, he sells printer capes, and had uses uio_pruss on 3.8/3.12.. so uio-pruss on 4.1.x-bone is in pretty good shape..
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  • [16:59:47] <rcn-ee> Ragnorok, btw there's also a "rt" variant of 4.1.x-bone, might help with BeagleLogic even more. ;)
  • [17:00:23] <Ragnorok> I see that. Thanks!
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  • [17:06:36] <zmatt> rcn-ee: rt has its disadvantages though, I could completely freeze up the GUI by ping-flooding by bbb (which only caused occasional hiccups on the non-rt kernel)
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  • [17:07:13] <zmatt> otoh rt does give you more tools to deal with such things... demoting the kernel threads involved with networking to SCHED_OTHER fixed the problem entirely
  • [17:07:53] <zmatt> hm, at least I think that's an rt thing, or can I do that on a regular kernel also?
  • [17:08:23] <zmatt> no wait that's definitely rt
  • [17:08:34] <zmatt> since those kernel threads were actually the irq handlers
  • [17:08:36] <rcn-ee> zmatt, yeah, i prefer PREEMPT_NONE ;)
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  • [17:08:46] <Ragnorok> rcn-ee: It looks like I can use LINUX_GIT to say pt to my existing 4.1 source and have at?
  • [17:08:53] <zmatt> rcn-ee: for a build farm, sure
  • [17:09:04] <rcn-ee> but bb.org wanted PREEMPT in base and then the full RT..
  • [17:09:11] <rcn-ee> zmatt, exactly... ;)
  • [17:09:31] <rcn-ee> Ragnorok, as long as it has kernel.org tag's..
  • [17:10:29] <zmatt> rcn-ee: did I ever mention I got a bbb image to boot inside a systemd-nspawn? slightly patched qemu-user and bind-mounted some critical executables that qemu-user can't handle (such as systemd) worked
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  • [17:11:14] <zmatt> if I can get a cross-compiler in that environment (acting as though it is the "native" compiler) then it would be a pretty spiffy environment to build stuff that can't normally be easily cross-compiled
  • [17:11:41] <alexanderhiam> any ledscape users about?
  • [17:11:46] <zmatt> the uname -a looks really odd though, involving both "amd64" and "armv7l"
  • [17:12:05] <rcn-ee> that may confuse most auto-build tools. ;)
  • [17:12:58] <zmatt> nah, the amd64 only occurred in the uname -r I think
  • [17:13:12] <zmatt> nobody parses the suffixes of that I'd hope
  • [17:14:03] <rcn-ee> for a couple days i was looking at apple's swift (for the bbb), that parses a lot of random crap..
  • [17:14:09] <zmatt> point is that it could just compile and run tests just like it would do normally
  • [17:14:29] <zmatt> if necessary I think you can override all uname things in a container anyway?
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  • [17:16:11] <zmatt> ideally you'd use native versions of most executables but armhf versions of all "dev" stuff (includes, libs) so you get near-native performance apart from executables built and run during the build process
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  • [17:17:26] <gt653> has anyone built a Yocto image that works with the 4dcape43T LCD panel ?
  • [17:18:18] <stt_michael> ew yocto lol
  • [17:18:53] <Ragnorok> This is a question for my curiousity only - Why do all the manual kernel build instructions use gnueabi, but this script is using gnueabihf? I would expect the latter, actually.
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  • [17:22:26] <gt653> stt_michael, "ew yocto lol"? can you elaborate...
  • [17:22:27] <zmatt> kernel is going to override that anyway, but fpu/neon in unavailable in the kernel except under special circumstances
  • [17:23:08] <stt_michael> gt653, yocto is considered quite 'old' and unsupported
  • [17:23:09] <zmatt> the fpu/neon registers are saved/restored lazily
  • [17:23:25] <Ragnorok> Roit. I figured something like that.
  • [17:23:25] <stt_michael> gt653, the 4D capes are supported in the default debian images afaik ...
  • [17:23:37] <stt_michael> isn't that correct rcn-ee ?
  • [17:23:44] <zmatt> stt_michael: you sure about that?
  • [17:23:55] <stt_michael> zmatt, I thought so ..
  • [17:24:02] <gt653> stt_michael, is it? are you sure? I just started with it so I don't know, but it seems pretty mainstream and up to date
  • [17:24:36] * stt_michael awaits the wisdom of RN ..
  • [17:25:01] <zmatt> stt_michael: you're not confusing yocto with ångström ?
  • [17:25:11] <stt_michael> I thought I read somewhere (here) that the DT files were all there and stuff
  • [17:25:25] <gt653> stt_michael, yes it works fine on debian, using the default BBB image; but I am asking specifically about doing this with Yocto
  • [17:25:42] <stt_michael> zmatt, there is no such "yocto" image for BBB that I'm aware of .. and ok I'm conflating the angstrom with yocto, as one is derived from the other
  • [17:26:29] <stt_michael> gt653, I suspect you're on-your-own to port the relevant bits of code into a yocto build.
  • [17:26:34] <rcn-ee> gt653, there's no offical "yocto" for bb.org anymore.. but your free to grab https://github.com/beagleboard/linux/tree/4.1 and teach yocto to use it.. (other have)
  • [17:26:55] <zmatt> https://www.yoctoproject.org/downloads/bsps/jethro20/beaglebone
  • [17:27:13] <zmatt> released two months ago
  • [17:27:29] <stt_michael> zmatt, I'm impressed.
  • [17:27:44] <rcn-ee> zmatt, ah ti set that up..
  • [17:28:05] <rcn-ee> it's based on ti's 4.1.x, so no "3dcape43t" support..
  • [17:28:26] * zmatt has no idea what 3dcape43t is
  • [17:28:50] <zmatt> ah, 4d
  • [17:28:53] <rcn-ee> it's just an lcd cape.. clone of circuitco's 4inch.
  • [17:29:26] <zmatt> why unsupported on 4.1-ti ? my impression was that lcdc driver worked *better* there than in mainline
  • [17:29:48] <gt653> I suspect the problem is with the dts I have for the 4dcape43t on the kernel, but not sure what or if that is the problem.
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  • [17:30:18] <rcn-ee> "out of the box" working support... gt653 will have to o patch that yocoto kernel..
  • [17:30:20] <gt653> the ...tree/4.1 kernel tree for beaglebone does not have a dts for it
  • [17:30:38] <gt653> I believe someone the cape manager extracts that info form the EEPROM on the cape itself
  • [17:30:52] <stt_michael> gt653, that's how its Supposed to work :D
  • [17:30:57] <zmatt> oh just the dts, that's not really an obstacle
  • [17:31:16] <rcn-ee> gt653, we extract the name and load the appropate dtbo: https://github.com/beagleboard/bb.org-overlays/blob/master/src/arm/BB-BONE-LCD4-01-00A1.dts
  • [17:31:16] <zmatt> (with or without capemgr, I never use it)
  • [17:31:39] * stt_michael has no capemgr on his main beaglebone ..
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  • [17:32:07] <stt_michael> just the 'toy' one for testing
  • [17:32:10] <zmatt> setting up the dts for the lcd display we're using was relatively easy
  • [17:32:29] <stt_michael> we got a 4d cape here .. its pretty good
  • [17:32:37] <stt_michael> touch too iirc
  • [17:33:20] <zmatt> a bit inane the driver has _mandatory_ DT properties which are actually only relevant for passive-matrix displays, especially since it doesn't even support passive-matrix mode
  • [17:33:43] <stt_michael> zmatt, the lcdc or the cape ?
  • [17:33:47] <gt653> so did you put that dts together from scratch? how did you build that? Right now I have one I modified from a 4dcape70t, which is the big brother to the 4dcape43t
  • [17:33:50] <zmatt> lcdc_panel
  • [17:33:53] <zmatt> tilcdc_panel
  • [17:35:16] <zmatt> gt653: yeah I bake my own DT entirely since I disliked too many things about the main DT, but I'm nuts
  • [17:36:08] <zmatt> I build it using a Makefile
  • [17:36:10] <zmatt> cpp -nostdinc -undef -D__DTS__ -I . -I include -x assembler-with-cpp -MMD -MQ dd-test.dtb -MP -MF .dep/dd-test.dtb.d dd-test.dts -pipe | dtc -@ -H epapr -i include -I dts -O dtb -o dd-test.dtb
  • [17:36:30] <gt653> zmatt, yeah I d say, that thing looks cryptic in parts. I now understand the structure and syntax, but even then that is some job to do it from scratch
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  • [17:36:49] <zmatt> gt653: DT really ought to be generated from a better format
  • [17:37:27] <zmatt> it's really tiresome in its limited expressiveness, redundancy, mandatory boilerplate, etc
  • [17:37:50] <zmatt> at least having preprocessor macros helps slightly
  • [17:39:01] <zmatt> a bigger problem is that it's a tree
  • [17:39:24] <zmatt> I've also been mailing with tony lindgren to help him with his efforts in accurately representing the interconnect
  • [17:39:47] <zmatt> problem is that it's not a tree but a directed graph (and not even necessarily an acyclic one)
  • [17:39:51] <zmatt> in reality
  • [17:41:01] <zmatt> for example even the ADC attaches in two places: it's on the L4WK but also has a port directly on the L3 to allow efficient data access (especially for dma)
  • [17:42:25] <zmatt> the tree structure worked fine for physical busses, but for on-chip interconnects it's probably going to be increasingly problematic
  • [17:43:26] <zmatt> but, well, we have to make do with it for the time being :)
  • [17:45:03] <zmatt> although it means the kernel driver for the adc uses the L4WK for data access instead of the L3 port
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  • [22:15:12] <sheldon> Hello!
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  • [22:16:28] <Guest7834> Hi Beaglebone community, can anyone help me with troubleshooting a faulty BBB?
  • [22:17:45] <tbr> describe the issues you have
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  • [22:23:29] <Guest7834> So when I start the beaglebone, I only get a solid power LED, and User LED 2 lit up. no heart beat.
  • [22:23:53] <tbr> booting from emmc or sd?
  • [22:24:00] <Guest7834> I tried flashing the EMMC, but the same lights tay solidly lit. Is there a workaround, or what does this combination of lit led's mean?
  • [22:24:15] <Guest7834> boot from both emmc or sd doesn't start a heartbeat
  • [22:24:37] <tbr> do you have access to the debug UART port?
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  • [22:26:02] <user3led> I have access to the port, what should i do?
  • [22:26:10] <user3led> sorry, i disconnected
  • [22:26:47] <tbr> open it in a terminal emulator, boot the board, see the output
  • [22:27:14] <user3led> I haven't thought of that, do i need a special cable?
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  • [23:12:15] <mistawright> hi guys I needed to find out how I can flash an image onto my beaglebone black through serial. I can see that the bootloader is waiting but I do not know of how to load an image onto the emmc through serial
  • [23:12:41] <zmatt> through serial? that's a pretty obscure route
  • [23:13:25] <zmatt> you definitely don't want to flash eMMC via serial.... bootloader *maybe* (though even then there are many simpler ways), but eMMC was take ages
  • [23:13:28] <zmatt> *would take
  • [23:14:30] <mistawright> i am unable to use a microsd card. the board doesnt read them I was getting error 101's i believe
  • [23:14:36] <zmatt> I generally flash eMMC via usb
  • [23:14:37] <mistawright> it has been a while since i touched the board
  • [23:14:56] <mistawright> how would I be able to do that? my board isnt detected through usb
  • [23:16:24] <zmatt> http://pastebin.com/x5QzB18E
  • [23:16:42] <zmatt> assuming linux host
  • [23:16:47] <zmatt> what OS are you using?
  • [23:16:59] <zmatt> or wait
  • [23:17:33] <zmatt> when you say "I can see that the bootloader is waiting", what do you mean exactly?
  • [23:18:09] <mistawright> with my serial cable connected and the board powered on. I just see C's repeating
  • [23:18:17] <zmatt> ah ok, ROM bootloader
  • [23:19:13] <mistawright> I did a number on this board trying to figure out why i couldnt read from microsd cards.
  • [23:19:26] <zmatt> if you connect via usb to your computer, does the CCC stop ?
  • [23:19:34] <mistawright> how would I correct the bootloader or am i still able to follow the above procedure
  • [23:19:56] <zmatt> the thing I pasted does not use the μSD slot in any way
  • [23:20:39] <mistawright> yes it does
  • [23:20:40] <ds2> flash from USB
  • [23:20:43] <zmatt> I'm currently in a train and will lose internet shortly, but will be back later (about an hour)...
  • [23:20:54] <zmatt> ok, then you can flash via USB, assuming you have a linux host
  • [23:21:02] <mistawright> yes i do
  • [23:21:03] <ds2> no trench coats required either
  • [23:21:30] <zmatt> the pastebin I linked to explains how to make the eMMC appear as an usb mass storage device
  • [23:22:07] <zmatt> you can then directly flash a filesystem image (I suggest the latest jessie snapshot)
  • [23:22:17] <zmatt> be sure to download the "standalone" rather than the "flasher"
  • [23:23:40] <zmatt> and I think you can just xzcat blah.img.xz >/dev/sdb or whatever device name the BBB got when it appeared as mass storage (double-check carefully :P )
  • [23:23:48] <zmatt> afk
  • [23:23:54] <mistawright> zmatt: thanks for the help will try to get it done now
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