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  • [21:17:09] <dirtydan> hello? is anyone here?
  • [21:17:26] <dirtydan> i'm new to using a beaglebone, i could use some help
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  • [21:22:47] <tippins69> new to beaglebone, i can;t connect beaglebone to internet through usb due to wifi restrictions
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  • [21:41:19] <GenTooMan> So the USB CDC driver in the beagle bone won't work because you disabled wifi?!
  • [21:42:01] * GenTooMan looks puzzled for a bit. "It should be a regular USB net adapter though I am no expert at that."
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  • [21:46:32] <bytewright> Noob here, who likes to play with lasers and who has a question:
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  • [21:47:11] <bytewright> i habe a few small lasers, which run at around 3V. i just discovered the analogwrite of beaglebone black
  • [21:47:57] <bytewright> can i just connect the PWN pin and play around with the analog value or could this damage the laser/bbb?
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  • [22:48:33] <zmatt> sigh, why don't people stick around for a bit after asking a question
  • [22:49:01] <GenTooMan> I presume editorial question? :D
  • [22:50:09] <zmatt> anyway, time to make tea and attempt to reanimate our primary development BBB which died while in the middle of installing system updates ( http://pastebin.com/4wUtpfDg )
  • [22:51:52] <GenTooMan> I won't ask if that is serious or not (heheh) :D which reminds me angstrom become yocto .. or something is the same "build your image" system available now for yocto? Or is angstrom still it's own?
  • [22:52:07] <veremit> zmatt.. "people" have the attention span of a flea
  • [22:52:27] <zmatt> has any serious research been done on the attention span of a flea?
  • [22:52:37] <veremit> I'm sure there's a PhD somewhere ...
  • [22:52:42] <veremit> important stuff!
  • [22:52:47] <zmatt> GenTooMan: well, hopefully it just fails to boot due to the half-finished updates, which included systemd and friends
  • [22:53:08] <GenTooMan> You mean the pounce bite and suck the blood and hop away?
  • [22:53:12] <veremit> lolz .. see what I mean about systemd .. fine when/if it works :P~
  • [22:53:28] <GenTooMan> refering to flea attention span.
  • [22:53:45] <zmatt> veremit: I'm sure other init systems would be perfectly fine being half-installed
  • [22:54:18] <zmatt> this is more an argument for Nix rather than one against systemd
  • [22:56:19] <zmatt> most importantly, it suggest to me that this isn't really an appropriate way to deal with a transient failure condition (unable to allocate contiguous kernel memory of requested size) in a block device driver (omap_hsmmc):
  • [22:56:23] <zmatt> /* FIXME: cleanup */
  • [22:56:25] <zmatt> return -1;
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  • [22:57:07] <GenTooMan> Wow... that's really interesting.
  • [22:57:24] <zmatt> especially not when said block device driver is commonly used for the root filesystem in embedded systems, which means that the data corruption which is almost certain to occur as a result can easily produce a broken appliance being RMA'd
  • [22:58:19] <GenTooMan> thats like Sony's encryption key on their PS3 system.
  • [22:58:50] <veremit> lol
  • [22:59:09] <veremit> I had a howler when I accidentally ejected a uSD runnnig my RPI ... oops! kernel panic :D
  • [22:59:20] <veremit> right .. food's finally here .. bb
  • [22:59:33] <GenTooMan> eat in peace for now.
  • [23:00:01] <GenTooMan> I should mess with my panda board.
  • [23:00:12] <veremit> yes
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  • [23:02:00] <zmatt> veremit: it's also asinine that that results in a kernel panic... it should yell loudly you should reinsert the card _now_ and stall any I/O to that device until you do so
  • [23:03:41] <zmatt> although I'm not sure what guarantees are still left you don't have random corruption if you cut the power to a card while it's doing writes
  • [23:03:57] <zmatt> depends on the quality of the card controller's firmware I guess
  • [23:05:03] <veremit> +2 zmatt
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  • [23:07:48] <zmatt> also on how badly corners have been cut to improve performance at the expense of robustness... SD will probably be most robust since it's commonly subject to untimely disconnects in the Real World™ (even though you're not supposed to)
  • [23:08:25] <zmatt> while eMMC's high-volume market is mobile devices, where they are not subject to eject and very rarely to sudden power loss
  • [23:08:30] <GenTooMan> everyone knows those connectors will be good at 100g vibration zmatt
  • [23:10:16] <zmatt> <GenTooMan> I should mess with my panda board.
  • [23:10:18] <zmatt> why?
  • [23:10:20] <zmatt> :P
  • [23:10:30] <zmatt> for archeological reasons?
  • [23:11:34] <GenTooMan> zmatt I have a 2 beagle board rev C boards too. I don't see playing with those. The PAnda Board ES has 1G of dram and 2 HDMI connectors that's why? :)
  • [23:12:15] <zmatt> panda board also has a very dead processor, quite possibly even more so than the omap 3
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  • [23:13:46] <GenTooMan> Wasn't that the one Palm used?
  • [23:14:17] <zmatt> maybe you can reverse-engineer the instruction set of the Tesla (C64T) DSP core... it's probably a C64+ subset, but there's no cpu/isa documentation for it and TI's compiler dropped support for it as being an "obsolete target"
  • [23:14:21] <zmatt> omap 4 ?
  • [23:16:53] <GenTooMan> They probably never got far out of engineering state with it. The keystone processors are more interesting but I don't have anything with one of those monsters on it.
  • [23:17:14] <zmatt> omap 4 got shipped on quite a number of mobile devices still
  • [23:17:37] <zmatt> omap 5 was pretty much stillborn
  • [23:18:20] <zmatt> and you'll have two C66x DSPs on the x15
  • [23:19:06] <GenTooMan> Hmmm I guess video decoding could suck in that case. Bummer still I would like to see if the ES works. It's sitting their looking lonely :D
  • [23:19:43] <GenTooMan> I can't even remember if I made a boot image for it yet.
  • [23:19:59] <GenTooMan> I got BBB's instead and "those were too much fun" :D
  • [23:20:23] <zmatt> the omap4 still has the benefit that most of it is quite well documented
  • [23:20:48] <zmatt> video decoding wouldn't be done by tesla but by IVA-HD
  • [23:21:26] <zmatt> which is unfortunately one of the major exceptions to the "quite well documented"
  • [23:21:50] <zmatt> but fortunately the same subsystem is on a number of other TI SoCs, including the am572x
  • [23:23:07] <zmatt> still, you do need the right firmware blob to load onto Ducati (the dual cortex-m3 subsytem which looks after the video stuff)
  • [23:23:58] <zmatt> rcn-ee can probably tell you what's available for it and where to find it
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  • [23:31:11] <GenTooMan> seems angstrom dropped it in 2014 sometime however they have images for it.
  • [23:31:37] <GenTooMan> now to find an SD card that isn't filled with crap... :D
  • [23:32:23] <zmatt> still, the omap 4 is a dead-end... the E2E forum has been officially closed
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  • [23:33:05] <GenTooMan> but but but ... heh
  • [23:34:05] <zmatt> which would demotivate me from playing with it.... well... a little bit maybe... possibly
  • [23:34:21] <GenTooMan> Now what would be cool is if TI made an SoC that work with the Adapteva Epihpany set.
  • [23:35:16] <GenTooMan> Anyhow need some cables SD card... brain ... what did I do with my brain this time! (LOL)
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  • [23:55:06] <zmatt> that was an unpleasantly long list of questions from fsck asking me whether to fix <insert technobabble>...
  • [23:56:14] <zmatt> well, that boot sure didn't get very far
  • [23:56:21] <zmatt> error while loading shared libraries: /lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libc.so.6: invalid ELF header