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  • [00:00:30] * Set by KotH!~attila@erica.kinali.ch on Wed Jul 15 13:55:07 UTC 2015
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  • [00:15:45] <veremit> mm got me new fresh beagle today
  • [00:15:58] <veremit> zmatt .. were you saying the Kingston was the better eMMC?
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  • [00:50:28] <veremit> musta gone high-Z .. :)
  • [00:57:49] <veremit> rcn-ee .. you done a jessie flasher image with lxde yet?
  • [00:59:01] <rcn-ee> veremit, lxde? those rely on gnome2.x, i have lxqt flasher (qt5: developers of lxde + razorqt)..
  • [00:59:13] <veremit> oh yanno :p
  • [00:59:34] <veremit> I been up 25hrs gimme a break :D
  • [01:00:00] <rcn-ee> no problem. ;)
  • [01:00:13] <rcn-ee> i'm losing my mind with ti's opencl ;)
  • [01:00:15] <veremit> ok so ..
  • [01:00:24] <veremit> lxqt then .. jessie .. right?
  • [01:00:54] <rcn-ee> correcto mundo... there's jessie/lxqt flashers out: http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#Jessie_Snapshot_lxqt
  • [01:01:37] <veremit> yup found it .. its a bit further down the page .. under x15 stuff :/
  • [01:02:50] <veremit> o look I got another spare usb lead .. *throws it in a box*
  • [01:03:02] <ds2> rcn-ee: any chance you have a 3.8 series release with the idr_alloc stuff added?
  • [01:04:28] <rcn-ee> ds2, according to: http://lxr.free-electrons.com/ident?v=3.8;i=idr_alloc
  • [01:04:36] <rcn-ee> it got added in 3.9.. so probally not sorry..
  • [01:04:45] <ds2> ah okay
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  • [01:04:51] <ds2> I'll continue with my integration then
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  • [02:24:48] <veremit> hmm ok this is odd .. why do I keep gettin different hashes for the image I just downloaded :( what'm I doing wrong?
  • [02:25:14] <veremit> nvm its consistent now
  • [02:25:18] <veremit> but still wrong :(
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  • [02:38:07] <nyt> crap
  • [02:38:22] <nyt> just got my shipment of dc power jacks and realized the mounting bits are too big :/
  • [02:38:54] <nyt> wtf boards do these even fit in
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  • [02:40:32] <nyt> cant find any 2.1mm with proper mounts :(
  • [02:43:36] <veremit> :/
  • [02:43:54] <nyt> lol everyone sells the breadboard friendly ones for like $1 a piece
  • [02:43:54] <nyt> what ar ip
  • [02:44:23] <veremit> breadboard friendly? all the ones I seen have the flat blade pins
  • [02:44:42] <veremit> in like three sides of a square formation
  • [02:45:06] <nyt> http://www.ebay.com/itm/15-Pieces-DC-Power-Jack-Socket-Solder-Female-Coupler-5-5mm-x-2-1mm-/311049484075?hash=item486bfe772b:g:~zEAAOSwLVZVz30s
  • [02:45:10] <nyt> those are similar to what i got
  • [02:45:14] <nyt> https://kipkaykits.com/product/dc-barrel-jack-adapter-breadboard-pcb-friendly/
  • [02:45:16] <nyt> these are what i need
  • [02:45:41] <veremit> first type are standard .. right .. the second ..
  • [02:45:54] <nyt> first type doesnt fit into any of my pcbs lol
  • [02:46:03] <nyt> second type i had 50 of em, but just ran out
  • [02:46:35] <veremit> those look special .. but they may be a particular type
  • [02:46:48] <nyt> 2.1mm breadboard friendly
  • [02:46:51] <nyt> nothing special really
  • [02:47:10] <nyt> i remember them being easier to find the last time i ordered em some years ago
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  • [02:47:55] <nyt> none of my breadboards can even take the ones i just got
  • [02:48:05] <nyt> or pcbs
  • [02:48:14] <veremit> I've never seen bfore ones with pins like that :)
  • [02:48:26] <veremit> anyhoo .. I gotta go sleep .. else tomorrow just won't happen .. cyas
  • [02:48:38] <nyt> night
  • [02:48:38] <nyt> http://www.amazon.com/100Pcs-Mount-4-2mm-Female-Connector/dp/B00W8TUK7Y/
  • [02:48:41] <nyt> close but wrong size :(
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  • [11:33:53] <tbr> (that particular board)
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  • [11:58:29] <tbr> IT boots!
  • [11:58:34] <av500> \o/
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  • [12:01:25] <tbr> hmm UART output is messy during flashing
  • [12:01:55] <av500> needs ANSI colors?
  • [12:01:59] <av500> flashing colors?
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  • [12:17:15] <tbr> hrm, UART login not possible, corrupted output somehow
  • [12:17:56] <tbr> is it 5V and not 3.3? or maybe only 1.8V?
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  • [12:22:37] <av500> tbr: 1,8
  • [12:22:43] <av500> no?
  • [12:22:43] <tbr> I'd need to drag the scope out
  • [12:22:54] <av500> check the schems
  • [12:23:00] <tbr> hmkay, time to get my Archos-debug adaptor then
  • [12:23:08] <tbr> didn't see a link to schematics
  • [12:23:29] <av500> https://github.com/beagleboard/beagleboard-x15
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  • [12:23:44] <tbr> tnx
  • [12:24:18] <av500> seems 3v3
  • [12:24:27] <tbr> I should modify my ftdi dongle to switch between 1.8V and 3.3V instead of 5/3.3
  • [12:24:59] <tbr> I wonder why the output is so garbled then. will have to try with minicom instead of screen
  • [12:25:35] <av500> there is a buffer on the tx/rx
  • [12:25:43] <av500> runs off 3v3
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  • [12:28:59] <tbr> that's what I get if I press return 10x after previously logging in blind and seeing part of a prompt before restarting minicom
  • [12:29:02] <tbr> http://hastebin.com/zuleqeyeso.mel
  • [12:29:28] <tbr> time to try a different adaptor thing
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  • [12:37:39] <tbr> HA! with my fake FTDI I get proper output, just the newlines are missing
  • [12:37:56] <tbr> guess I should check with a scope at some point
  • [12:38:34] <tbr> rcn-ee: is the debug UART 1.8V or 3.3V Vref?
  • [12:40:13] <tbr> ah, after a reboot also newlines are working
  • [12:40:23] <tbr> [ 35.298154] omapdss error: HDMI I2C Master Error
  • [12:40:25] <tbr> tsk
  • [12:40:38] <tbr> time to try with a shorter HDMI cable, I guess
  • [12:44:14] <tbr> [ 25.664829] omapdss error: HDMI I2C Master Error
  • [12:44:15] <tbr> nope
  • [12:45:01] <tbr> will try different displays later
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  • [15:52:51] <veremit> where you found an x15 tbr?!
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  • [16:02:23] <tbr> veremit: It was FedExed to me :>
  • [16:03:32] <veremit> heh o. rite.
  • [16:03:56] <veremit> lucky you then :P
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  • [16:09:11] <tbr> https://groups.google.com/forum/?nomobile=true#!topic/beagleboard-x15/mqAF6V5fVWs
  • [16:09:14] <tbr> 1) What your plans for the boards would be.
  • [16:09:17] <tbr> Front questions on #beagle freenode during Europe daylight hours.
  • [16:09:30] * tbr marks one question answered to veremit ;)
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  • [16:14:49] <veremit> looks like that thread got hijacked tbr lol
  • [16:15:14] <tbr> I'm surprised how much it keeps on topic though
  • [16:15:28] <veremit> which one lol
  • [16:15:56] <tbr> people asking for borads
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  • [16:21:24] <veremit> well .. I see about 6-10 .. the rest is about power-up sequencing in the BBB and not even the x15 ..
  • [16:21:41] <veremit> poor gerald .. lol .. not.
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  • [16:24:27] <tbr> ah, now also another hijack, lots of new off topic messages
  • [16:24:41] * tbr just looked at it in his MUA
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  • [16:25:07] <rcn-ee> hijacking threads is traditional foe beagle. ;)
  • [16:26:00] <tbr> rcn-ee: happen to have any thoughts on either the UART or the HDMI I²C error from earlier today?
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  • [16:27:24] <rcn-ee> sorry tbr had left my pc on logged into irc last night.. so i actually missed the question...
  • [16:28:22] <tbr> 12:37:39< tbr> HA! with my fake FTDI I get proper output, just the newlines are missing
  • [16:28:25] <tbr> 12:37:56< tbr> guess I should check with a scope at some point
  • [16:28:28] <tbr> 12:38:34< tbr> rcn-ee: is the debug UART 1.8V or 3.3V Vref?
  • [16:28:30] <tbr> 12:40:13< tbr> ah, after a reboot also newlines are working
  • [16:28:33] <tbr> 12:40:23< tbr> [ 35.298154] omapdss error: HDMI I2C Master Error
  • [16:28:35] <tbr> 12:40:25< tbr> tsk
  • [16:28:55] <tbr> I have yet to try a different HDMI display. probably tomorrow
  • [16:29:03] <rcn-ee> it's 3.3v on the bbb...
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  • [16:29:08] <tbr> X15
  • [16:29:15] <rcn-ee> ah
  • [16:29:23] <rcn-ee> yeap.. 3.3v.. same ftdi..
  • [16:29:43] <rcn-ee> what kernel? beta (A2 on ethernet) jack..
  • [16:30:18] <tbr> ok, will look with a scope then at some point. as one of my FTDIs fails to read output properly
  • [16:30:42] <tbr> yes A2 HW and your image from 1 or 2 days ago, flashed to EMMC
  • [16:30:51] <rcn-ee> There was a hdmi regulator change on the "beta", so if it's an old kenrel display doesn't work.. and if you boot off eMMC.. you need the latest kernel..
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  • [16:31:39] <rcn-ee> (the microSD cd pin was tied to the ldo that runs the hdmi-edid, thus eMMC boot, microSD pin not enabled, thus ldo to hdmi-edid not enabled...)
  • [16:31:41] <tbr> bbx15-eMMC-flasher-debian-8.2-lxqt-4gb-armhf-2015-10-18-4gb was what I flashed to the eMMC
  • [16:31:53] <rcn-ee> okay that one is fine..
  • [16:32:28] <rcn-ee> bbx15 and lcd share the same ground connection?
  • [16:32:53] <tbr> only via the HDMI cable
  • [16:33:20] <tbr> as both the x15 PSU and the receiver are 2-prong
  • [16:33:35] <rcn-ee> try a different cable.. (i have a usb hub built-in to my dell lcd, so the usb gnd's them together)..
  • [16:34:06] <rcn-ee> (and my power supply for the x15 is a 3 prong)
  • [16:34:19] <tbr> yeah, that was my first thought so I left out the HDMI extension cable and only tried with a short cable
  • [16:34:47] <tbr> I have to replace the short cable though
  • [16:35:10] <tbr> I'll also try grounding the X15 and the RX
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  • [16:39:55] <veremit> is it possible to re-flash a BBB without uSD card (yet) ?
  • [16:40:07] <veremit> I'm guessing probably not
  • [16:40:19] <rcn-ee> veremit, bbblfs
  • [16:40:29] <veremit> linky?
  • [16:41:03] <rcn-ee> https://ungureanuvladvictor.github.io/BBBlfs/
  • [16:41:15] <veremit> cheers
  • [16:42:10] <rcn-ee> i has faving fun with it at one point, having bbb's flash bbb's... by forcing the usb0 to reset/pwer..
  • [16:42:26] <rcn-ee> only got 1-2 shots before the kernel got too angry...
  • [16:42:30] <veremit> hehe
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  • [16:42:59] <veremit> so could I (hypothetically) make it shift that jessie image in? I been havng a 'lack of spcae' isse on this pc :( f*in thing
  • [16:43:01] <rcn-ee> but, the eMMC needs to be blank... the usb mode comes after mmc/eMMC..
  • [16:43:18] <veremit> ah so I'd have to dd if=/dev/zero
  • [16:43:23] <rcn-ee> correcto..
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  • [16:43:28] <veremit> yikes .. thats scary.
  • [16:43:35] <veremit> but not unrecoverable :D
  • [16:44:27] <rcn-ee> here's my hack repo, was assing bmap support.. https://github.com/RobertCNelson/BBBlfs/commits/bbb-flasher
  • [16:45:16] <veremit> cool .. will drag that up soon as I get to work
  • [16:47:15] <rcn-ee> veremit, it would have been very cool if there was a usb-fdti/gpio control available on the usb-slave, with a gpio tied to s2, reset, a gpio for u-boot..
  • [16:47:29] <rcn-ee> then usb-flashing could be made very automated..
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  • [16:52:46] <veremit> but we all know how **p musb is .. :p
  • [16:52:52] <veremit> ok .. changing sites :)
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  • [18:15:26] <jsk> I am doing a project based on object tracking using beaglebone black and cognimem PM1K neural chip and got stuck in defining the image loading functions using c++ . Are there any defined functions for loading images in c++ for BBB
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  • [18:19:03] <jsk> I am doing a project based on object tracking using beaglebone black and cognimem PM1K neural chip and got stuck in defining the image loading functions using c++ . Are there any defined functions for loading images in c++ for BBB
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  • [18:21:46] <rcn-ee> jsk, libturbo? i assume jpeg?
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  • [18:57:25] <stt_michael> oo serial logon times out heh
  • [18:59:46] <zmatt> tbr: I noticed that according to the pinmux, pin 258 can be used to either i2c2 sda or hdmi scl
  • [18:59:53] <zmatt> while 259 is i2c2 scl or hdmi sda
  • [19:00:33] <zmatt> a little suspicious :P (or at least a pretty stupid choice)
  • [19:01:02] <stt_michael> oh no my bad
  • [19:01:44] <zmatt> YOU BROKE IT
  • [19:02:22] <stt_michael> not -yet- ...
  • [19:02:32] <stt_michael> dd if=/dev/zero ... here we go .. :D
  • [19:04:31] <tbr> zmatt: duuuuh
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  • [19:06:05] <zmatt> rcn-ee: btw, could you maybe include the modprobe rule and udev rule (or variation) for uio in your rootfs? it shouldn't affect any non-uio users, but it would allow using uio with nothing more than an overlay
  • [19:06:29] <zmatt> http://pastebin.com/GrHwgYiR <-- contains the two files and a DT fragment example
  • [19:09:07] <rcn-ee> zmatt, looks cool, i'll add it.. do you want to fork beagle/bb.org-overlays and push a bbb-adc-uio.dts option?
  • [19:09:32] <zmatt> well the adc is just an example, you can use almost peripheral using uio
  • [19:10:36] <rcn-ee> true, many of those are just examples. ;)
  • [19:10:39] <zmatt> you can also use it to create interrupts to userspace simpler than the sysfs mechanism
  • [19:11:59] <zmatt> e.g. http://pastebin.com/Yxb7Q8CY
  • [19:12:21] <zmatt> (the reg declaration is simply because I also wanted access to that address range for the example)
  • [19:13:25] <stt_michael> Rats: don't you just hate it when you've not got the right kernel config .. -sigh- .. *rebuilds*
  • [19:15:03] <zmatt> given how fast the kernel compiles it doesn't bother me hugely
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  • [19:26:01] <stt_michael> yeah this ain't a top-line core-i7, but it suffices for me.
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  • [19:26:42] <stt_michael> .. aaaand its decided to do a full rebuild. Yay. Time for a coffee....
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  • [19:46:27] <stt_michael> hmm you say this should come p with an ndis usb device, rcn-ee ?!
  • [19:47:11] <rcn-ee> stt_michael, the "lxqt" image does..
  • [19:47:15] <rcn-ee> the "console" do not..
  • [19:47:17] <stt_michael> perhaps I need to power from DC
  • [19:47:19] <rcn-ee> or yea it does..
  • [19:47:20] <stt_michael> no .. for flashing
  • [19:47:42] * stt_michael digs out a PSU
  • [19:47:47] <rcn-ee> after flashing, shutdown, pull out card, re-apply power , usb net comes up..
  • [19:48:06] <stt_michael> I haven[t -got- to flashing yet ... lol
  • [19:48:07] <rcn-ee> the 'flasher' never reaches user space...
  • [19:48:11] <stt_michael> I'm trying to get usb boot
  • [19:48:29] <stt_michael> oh wait...hrm .. I'm missing a step .. aren't I ..
  • [19:49:13] <rcn-ee> step 1
  • [19:49:59] <stt_michael> I've dd-d the boot block of emmc, and now I'm trying to get usb ndis boot via usb power ..
  • [19:50:43] <Akex_> rcn-ee: can i mp with you ?
  • [19:51:28] <rcn-ee> Akex_, sure, just waiting for ipc-dev/ti-opencl to build..
  • [19:51:43] <Akex_> Thx ;)
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  • [20:04:35] <rcn-ee> jkridner, opencl is alive!!! what's beagleboard.org's bitcoin address? we can setup x15 miners..
  • [20:04:42] <jkridner> woohoo!
  • [20:06:17] <stt_michael> oh jees ..
  • [20:06:18] <stt_michael> :p
  • [20:06:35] <rcn-ee> https://plus.google.com/106813818225399872098/posts/f2GWgRrjnjc mandelbrot..
  • [20:07:04] <rcn-ee> now to push the final ti-opencl *.deb to the builders... so this should be apt-get able in 30 mins..
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  • [21:20:48] <NewNeo> Hello, I have usb/ftdi issue with board simliar to BBB
  • [21:21:02] <NewNeo> I got soft lockup from the kernel
  • [21:21:23] <NewNeo> it's seem to be fixed when set cpu governor to performance
  • [21:21:30] <NewNeo> anyone has an idea?
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  • [21:29:02] <sciz> yo .. anyone know if I can play netflix on beaglebone black? without using outside service?
  • [21:29:15] <rcn-ee> sciz, no..
  • [21:29:25] <sciz> ahhhh. bummer
  • [21:29:49] <ds2> rcn-ee: do you have a build script for the TI kernels that Jason (apparently) uses for the PRUSS training stuff?
  • [21:30:09] <sciz> any suggestions for a single board computer and netflixing / hbogo / hulu?
  • [21:30:20] <rcn-ee> sciz, a chromestick..
  • [21:30:23] <sciz> but also for prototyping
  • [21:30:49] <rcn-ee> ds2, i have a ti specific build for v4.1.x.. it's just ti's config and a patch for deb-pkg...
  • [21:31:18] <ds2> okay...n/m... the slides show it is a 3.14.43
  • [21:31:22] <rcn-ee> (and a patch for cmem/dts, so you can use the dsp..)
  • [21:31:34] <rcn-ee> ds2, yeah sorry, didn't have a ti only in that era..
  • [21:31:42] <ds2> 'k
  • [21:31:52] <ds2> back to scouring git archives for a tree with a version like that
  • [21:31:55] <rcn-ee> but when ti moves all stuff to v4.1.x, that's ready. ;)
  • [21:32:12] <ds2> I am looking for a tree that works with his remoteproc/rpmsg labs
  • [21:32:16] <sciz> <rcn-ee> anything with some pins for prototyping?
  • [21:32:41] <rcn-ee> sciz, the chromestick has pins...
  • [21:33:00] <sciz> hmmm.. ok.
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  • [21:58:38] <abferm> NewNeo: I don't know, but most of us have moved to #beagle
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