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  • [02:14:46] <yates> we're spinning a custom board off the bbb and have removed the video circuit, hdmi connector, and clock driver. will this cause any problems for the debian operating system?
  • [02:15:20] <yates> obviously we're not attaching a monitor of any type.
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  • [02:32:55] <yates> the A15 pin output from the AM3358, labeled XDMA_EVENT_INTR0, drives both a clock for the HDMI interface and also interfaces to the JTAG connector (EMU2). so how is this multiplexed between the two functions?
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  • [02:46:08] <Bi3on> anyone here uses barebox to boot beaglebone ?
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  • [05:17:39] <Guest80043> need hlp
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  • [05:27:07] <tbr> help with what?
  • [05:27:10] <tbr> http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
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  • [05:37:06] <Guest80043> i have a beaglebone rev 45
  • [05:37:34] <Guest80043> i can connect to vnc)?
  • [05:38:25] <Guest80043> for devian 7
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  • [05:41:19] <zleslie> Hi
  • [05:43:07] <Guest80043> i have a beaglebone rev 45 ,i can connect to vnc)?
  • [05:43:10] <Guest80043> hi
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  • [06:12:24] <CRCinAU> so... I just got given a black to play with - but I can't figure this thing out....
  • [06:12:43] <CRCinAU> It boots via the onboard flash, and I can get to its ethernet IP and get the splash page
  • [06:12:53] <CRCinAU> but SSH'ing in, I get a connection terminated.
  • [06:13:08] <CRCinAU> I also don't have any way to format / reimage a microSD card right now
  • [06:13:26] <CRCinAU> so I was going to boot via the eMMC, see if I can write to the microSD from within that
  • [06:13:40] <CRCinAU> then reboot to flash the eMMC with the latest debian console only download
  • [06:14:18] <CRCinAU> I found a whole heap of stuff that mentions cloud9 on port 3000 - but that port doesn't seem to be open on my setup... only 22 / 80 / 443
  • [06:14:42] <tbr> mh, hard to tell what's going on. do you know which software it runs?
  • [06:14:54] <tbr> do you have a 3.3V UART adapter?
  • [06:14:55] <CRCinAU> I got given it second hand - so not quite sure
  • [06:15:12] <CRCinAU> the site I see shows:
  • [06:15:13] <CRCinAU> Your board is connected!
  • [06:15:14] <CRCinAU> BeagleBone Black rev 0A5C S/N 2513BBBK4978 at 10.1.1.176
  • [06:15:35] <CRCinAU> hmmmm - not sure... can I get to something via the USB socket?
  • [06:15:49] <CRCinAU> I do get a COM port when I plug it into my windows system
  • [06:15:52] <tbr> right, you could try to get in via cdc-acm
  • [06:16:03] <CRCinAU> but I don't seem to get in via 9600/8/n/1 etc
  • [06:16:05] <tbr> yes, use an terminal emulator with it
  • [06:16:24] <tbr> try 115200, although it shouldn't matter
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  • [06:17:19] <CRCinAU> hmmmm
  • [06:17:50] <CRCinAU> just waiting for it to finish flashing its USR leds......
  • [06:18:11] <tbr> they will always flash to a degree
  • [06:18:18] <tbr> they indicate system activity
  • [06:18:38] <CRCinAU> yeah - looks almost done now.... they're not ON ;)
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  • [06:18:51] <CRCinAU> interesting, I don't get a COM now :\
  • [06:18:59] <tbr> the usb serial should have something after it's fully booted
  • [06:19:07] <CRCinAU> wait - here we go... COM4
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  • [06:19:15] <CRCinAU> ah ha
  • [06:19:32] <CRCinAU> ok, so got a console now
  • [06:20:29] <tbr> ssh startup was broken in some version long ago
  • [06:20:48] <tbr> so if you have a microsd, you might want to reflash it
  • [06:20:54] <CRCinAU> rm /etc/dropbear/dropbear_rsa_host_key && /etc/init.d/dropbear stop && /etc/init.d/dropbear start
  • [06:20:57] <CRCinAU> that's better.
  • [06:21:08] <CRCinAU> so, I'm looking at putting the debian console on the emmc
  • [06:21:22] <CRCinAU> I downloaded: BBB-eMMC-flasher-debian-7.8-console-armhf-2015-03-01-2gb.img.xz
  • [06:21:44] <CRCinAU> can I flash that via the beagle? due to not having an adapter that works with this 8Gb MicroSD :\
  • [06:22:00] <tbr> you might be able to do that, yes
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  • [06:22:28] <tbr> try sticking in the card and poking /dev/mmc?blk with fdisk to see which one is the emmc
  • [06:23:27] <CRCinAU> everything starts with /dev/mmcblk0
  • [06:23:35] <CRCinAU> that seems wrong/
  • [06:23:36] <CRCinAU> ?
  • [06:24:27] <CRCinAU> nothing seems to appear in /dev when I plug in the MicroSD? :\
  • [06:24:32] <CRCinAU> nothing in dmesg either
  • [06:24:55] <tbr> try rebooting with the card inserted (that might fail alltogether though, depending on the U-Boot)
  • [06:25:05] <CRCinAU> always the way ;)
  • [06:25:46] <CRCinAU> well, at least I should be able to SSH in after a reboot as well
  • [06:26:47] <CRCinAU> See, now I get a "ELMO GMAS (COM5)" detected, but when I connect to it, I don't get any prompt
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  • [06:27:10] <tbr> that might be the ROM Bootloader
  • [06:28:05] <CRCinAU> nothing in my DHCP logs to say it got a network address either :\
  • [06:28:18] <tbr> LEDs?
  • [06:28:36] <CRCinAU> heartbeat + naybe a CPU one flickering?
  • [06:28:58] <tbr> hmm, then it should be past u-boot
  • [06:29:19] <CRCinAU> so yeah - I'm not sure what is on the microSD at all
  • [06:29:26] <CRCinAU> hence I've been booting without it
  • [06:29:44] <tbr> ah, it came with the board?
  • [06:29:57] <CRCinAU> yeah - but its all 'second hand'
  • [06:30:12] <CRCinAU> the guys at work have been mucking with it - so who knows what state its in
  • [06:30:15] <tbr> yeah
  • [06:30:39] <tbr> TBH, rewriting the card externally would be best
  • [06:30:46] <CRCinAU> it would be....
  • [06:31:07] <CRCinAU> but i only have a MicroSD to mSD that doesn't work with SDHC cards
  • [06:31:20] <CRCinAU> and the microSD that was in this thing was 8Gb
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  • [06:31:42] <CRCinAU> I've only got a 4Gb (also sdhc) and a 1Gb one
  • [06:31:48] <CRCinAU> whereas the image is 2Gb ;)
  • [06:31:55] <CRCinAU> </rage>
  • [06:32:04] <tbr> you could try to trick things by inserting the microSD right after u-boot comes up
  • [06:32:22] <CRCinAU> how do I know uboot is up though?
  • [06:32:23] <tbr> uboot is when all the leds light up solid one after another
  • [06:32:28] <CRCinAU> hmmmm
  • [06:33:50] <CRCinAU> woah
  • [06:33:59] <CRCinAU> opkg list-upgradable <-- shows a TON of stuff ;)
  • [06:34:15] <tbr> don't
  • [06:34:21] <CRCinAU> oh?
  • [06:34:35] <tbr> with angstrom large upgrades usually don't go well
  • [06:34:36] <CRCinAU> hmmm
  • [06:34:36] <CRCinAU> root@beaglebone:~# cat /etc/dogtag
  • [06:34:37] <CRCinAU> Cloud9 GNOME Image 2013.06.06
  • [06:34:51] <tbr> ancient image is ancient
  • [06:35:09] <CRCinAU> probably the stock one it came with
  • [06:35:35] <tbr> likely
  • [06:35:53] <CRCinAU> ok - so I just plugged in the MicroSD when all 4 lights were on
  • [06:35:54] <tbr> also I'm not sure what would limit your sd reader with sdhc cards
  • [06:36:12] <CRCinAU> I don't think the adapter is smart enough
  • [06:36:22] <CRCinAU> micro -> mini adapter?
  • [06:36:23] <tbr> that's just a specification, the adapter shouldn't care
  • [06:40:30] <CRCinAU> hmmmm
  • [06:41:38] <CRCinAU> so, how can I poke this thing to say 'Hey, there's a card in there now?' :)
  • [06:44:01] <CRCinAU> does /boot/uEnv.txt have something to do with things?
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  • [06:52:38] <CRCinAU> root@beaglebone:/etc/udev# lsblk
  • [06:52:38] <CRCinAU> NAME MAJ:MIN RM SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT
  • [06:52:38] <CRCinAU> mmcblk0boot0 179:8 0 1M 1 disk
  • [06:52:38] <CRCinAU> mmcblk0boot1 179:16 0 1M 1 disk
  • [06:52:38] <CRCinAU> mmcblk0 179:0 0 1.8G 0 disk
  • [06:52:40] <CRCinAU> |-mmcblk0p1 179:1 0 70.6M 0 part /media/BEAGLEBONE
  • [06:52:43] <CRCinAU> `-mmcblk0p2 179:2 0 1.7G 0 part /
  • [06:52:45] <CRCinAU> hmm - that's all I see :\
  • [06:53:36] <tbr> yeah, no card
  • [06:53:40] <CRCinAU> udevadm monitor doesn't show any events when I insert / remove the micro sd :\
  • [06:53:58] <tbr> I don't remember if there is a way to trigger a card detection on that kernel
  • [06:54:22] <CRCinAU> is it safe to update just the kernel via opkg?
  • [06:55:05] <tbr> no idea. how about trying to stick in that 8G card into your reader and checking if the image writer sees it?
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  • [06:55:58] <CRCinAU> lemme try a different laptop....
  • [06:59:15] <CRCinAU> ohhhh
  • [06:59:17] <CRCinAU> it worked in this laptop
  • [06:59:25] <CRCinAU> flashy flashy
  • [07:00:14] <CRCinAU> I'm using rufus tbh though - it supports dd images etc :)
  • [07:02:26] <CRCinAU> woooo
  • [07:02:40] <CRCinAU> got a knight rider pattern going with the USR leds....
  • [07:02:48] <CRCinAU> I guess that means its flashing the emmc?
  • [07:03:27] <ganeshkumar> hi i have problem in u-boot loader in beagle bone black.
  • [07:03:29] <ganeshkumar> http://pastebin.com/er6ag9zc
  • [07:04:28] <ganeshkumar> Unable boot second stage boot loader beagle bone black.
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  • [07:05:50] <ganeshkumar> i have compiled debug mode in u-boot source code.
  • [07:07:32] <ganeshkumar> it still shows spl:board_init_r() after it is hang
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  • [07:08:38] <ganeshkumar> what kind of problem in beagle bone black?
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  • [08:43:24] <CRCinAU> well, good news... Debian is installed on the eMMC and everything is happy :)
  • [08:43:29] <CRCinAU> glad its only a 200Mb install
  • [08:43:31] <CRCinAU> and that includes perl
  • [08:43:43] <CRCinAU> which is a BIG win for me (I only really write stuff in perl)
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  • [09:00:51] <tbr> CRCinAU: glad you got it sorted
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  • [09:16:49] <CRCinAU> tbr: me too :)
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  • [10:23:52] <VirG1> Hi People. I am not sure if this is a FreeBSD, a BBB, or a JTAG issue. I am using an application called screen to connect to a BBB running FreeBSD. I use it to watch the BBB boot, log in, and to get the IP Address. Whenever I exit screen, the BBB seems to stop responding. Does anyone have any ideas why it would?
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  • [14:48:40] <yates> https://github.com/beagleboard/linux.git
  • [14:49:14] <yates> i've been grepping around and don't see anything specific to these devices using i2c0 as the search term
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  • [17:32:50] <vancouver> Can the beagle board be repurpoused as a product ie, a robot or some other conusumer device and redold?
  • [17:35:10] <tbr> the boards as sold by distributors are not intended for products. You can contact the companies producing those to place volume orders though.
  • [17:37:24] <tbr> that would be seeed, element14 and I guess CCo
  • [17:37:32] <vancouver> seed?
  • [17:37:54] <vancouver> the board I ordered came in from element14
  • [17:38:21] <vancouver> say I want to use it as the brains of a household autonomous project for resale.
  • [17:38:44] <vancouver> not sure on the legalities
  • [17:42:06] <tbr> http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/BeagleBone-Green-p-2504.html?cPath=122_113
  • [17:43:01] <tbr> As said, talk to the companies producing the boards if you need boards for commercial use
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  • [19:06:24] <ycny> My BBB isn't detected from Arch Linux, even after udev script instalation. What can't be wrong?
  • [19:07:53] <tbr> what are you running on the board?
  • [19:12:22] <ycny> tbr: probably standard debian. Long time ago I was using SD card (with arch) but now, without SD it should boot to emmc debian
  • [19:12:47] <ycny> tbr: after power up, I see it reads from eMMC, then I see heartbeat
  • [19:13:16] <hoijui> you try to aceess it over USB? did you try ethernet?
  • [19:13:41] <veremit> lack of usb gadget support in your kernel
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  • [19:15:03] <ycny> hoijui: I was trying with ethernet, now USB. I couldn't connect through ethernet either
  • [19:15:29] <ycny> veremit: oh, really? I had no problem with BBB some time ago, with older kernel, also arch:)
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  • [19:15:57] <hoijui> do you still have an SD card?
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  • [19:16:46] <ycny> hoijui: nope
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  • [19:17:27] <hoijui> mmmm
  • [19:17:54] <hoijui> i used BBBlfs a few times to flash the BBB over the USB cable
  • [19:18:02] <hoijui> maybe you want to try that
  • [19:19:24] <ycny> hoijui: is it even possible to flash something over USB cable if I can't connect to the device over the USB cable? :>
  • [19:20:29] <tbr> if it shows up when in ROMBL, yes
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  • [19:20:34] <hoijui> i am new to BBB, so i dont know... i just know you need to press the BOOT button on the BB when you put power to it
  • [19:20:53] <tbr> that's for booting from SD
  • [19:21:07] <hoijui> .. so i guess it does not use what is on the eMMC for that
  • [19:21:21] <hoijui> it is also for flashing over BBBlfs
  • [19:22:10] <ycny> I'll try to install some additional packages for usb support, will see
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  • [20:09:27] <yates> can someone point me to the location in the custom kernel for bbb (https://github.com/beagleboard/linux.git) where i2c0 is allocated/used for 1) the HDMI driver (U11) and 2) the board ID eeprom (U7)?
  • [20:09:35] <yates> i've been grepping around and don't see anything specific to these devices using i2c0 as the search term
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  • [20:14:13] <hoijui> did you look at the BBB specific commits?
  • [20:14:28] <hoijui> or the current state?
  • [20:16:09] <yates> i'm on branch 4.1
  • [20:18:13] <yates> hoijui: should i be looking at a specific tag?
  • [20:19:43] <hoijui> yates, sorry, i have no idea about this stuff, just though this might help (as none of the knowledgable people here seems to be... here/listening right now)
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  • [20:21:38] <yates> hoijui: hey, i appreciate it. your ideas help me think things through. by the way, "git describe --tags" says i'm on tag 4.1.6-ti-r14
  • [20:22:51] <hoijui> :-)
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  • [20:27:08] <yates> is it more that the kernel "grabs" all 4 (?) i2cs on the AM3359 and exposes them through the devfs (/dev/i2c-x), and that something else (non-kernel code) in the boot process handles talking to these chips through the devfs?
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  • [23:25:53] <yates> what's the easiest way to disable the cape mechanism on a bbb, so that i2c2 is left unused and another application may take control of it?
  • [23:26:20] <zmatt> use a main dtb with omits bone_capemgr
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  • [23:27:13] <zmatt> (and if you still want to use overlays, use a 4.x kernel which has mainline support for them)
  • [23:31:23] <yates> zmatt: did you mean a main dts file (pre-compiled)?
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  • [23:33:15] <yates> there are a whole bunch of .dts files in the 4.1 kernel. 1) which arch subdirectory is the bbb? and 2) which .dts is the "main" dts?
  • [23:34:35] <yates> fyi, i'm looking on the 4.1 branch of https://github.com/beagleboard/linux.git
  • [23:35:43] <yates> is it arch/arm/boot/dts/am335x-boneblack-overlay.dts?
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  • [23:51:26] <pollopez> hi
  • [23:51:29] <yates> what is the actual latest, stable branch or tag for the bbb?
  • [23:51:55] <yates> i get this list from the current repo: http://ur1.ca/nrmdj -> http://paste.fedoraproject.org/266591/10190414
  • [23:55:49] <zmatt> yates: hold beagleboard/linux is not the right repo
  • [23:56:22] <zmatt> https://github.com/RobertCNelson/linux-stable-rcn-ee/releases
  • [23:56:51] <zmatt> there you can the source trees for rcn-ee's releases (not just the -bone kernels)
  • [23:57:39] <yates> zmatt: ok, wow, thanks alot. i'll take a look
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  • [23:58:04] <zmatt> note that it's not really a linear git repo: each release is made by some scripts that apply a bunch of patches
  • [23:58:53] <yates> so it looks like https://github.com/beagleboard/linux.git is where the real-time development work is done, and at release intervals they update the https://github.com/RobertCNelson/linux-stable-rcn-ee/releases ?
  • [23:59:08] <zmatt> no
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  • [23:59:27] <zmatt> for one, beagleboard != beaglebone
  • [23:59:57] * yates facepalms