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  • [03:19:37] <Gentooman> hmmm the IO mapping configuration on a beagle bone - X series is handled via an EEPROM correct? (IE for the main board the HDMI connector and the on board IO is mapped in via an EEPROM on the main board)?
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  • [04:01:53] <syzygy> I'm running 4.1.1 with piaware (RTL-SDR) the BBB crashes ~ every 4 days (blue blinken lights stop blinken, no screen, network lights still flash). Only logging seems to be:
  • [04:01:54] <syzygy> Aug 17 07:59:21 arm kernel: [ 40.971118] musb_ep_program 896: broken !rx_reinit, ep2 csr 0003 Aug 17 07:59:21 arm kernel: [ 40.977345] musb_ep_program 896: broken !rx_reinit, ep2 csr 0203 Aug 17 07:59:21 arm kernel: [ 40.983500] musb_ep_program 896: broken !rx_reinit, ep2 csr 0003 Aug 17 07:59:21 arm kernel: [ 40.989650] musb_ep_program 896: broken !rx_reinit, ep2 csr 0203 Aug 17 07:59:21 arm kernel: [ 40.995800] musb_ep_prog
  • [04:02:11] <syzygy> I've seen a few other posts that seem maybe related with no real solutions...
  • [04:02:13] <syzygy> any ideas?
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  • [05:40:45] <ashwin> Hello
  • [05:41:02] <ashwin> Can anyone tell me how to enable 4 pwm signals on the BBB
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  • [05:44:50] <tbr> ashwin: if you look at the SRM and TRM, you'll see that the BBB has 3 (three) PWMs. If you need more you'll need to add a PWM chip and controll it e.g. over I²C
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  • [05:53:15] <av500> or one could PRU it
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  • [08:27:58] <PacoDu_> Hi, i'm writing a device driver for the BBB, i've correctly define my DTB with references to the GPIO for example : "gpios = <&gpio1 28 GPIO_ACTIVE_HIGH>;", i've some difficulties trying to acces gpio i've set for the device, i'm reading leds-gpio.c driver I can see : "devm_get_gpiod_from_child" can you give me some advice for documentation to retrieve the gpio data from the DTB ?
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  • [12:03:18] <jkridner> any thoughts on http://beagleboard.org/approved ? okay idea?
  • [12:10:03] <gferencz> jkridner, Looks like a good idea to me. Is there any support required from the developer in order to maintain approval status? That might help keep orphaned projects at bay.
  • [12:12:21] <gferencz> Though perhaps that's covered by just having the code in the beagle-image-builder.
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  • [12:20:32] <Chrille> jkridner: It would be great if you could put in a statement that requires the vendor to publish sourcecode for the hardware under some reasonable license.
  • [12:20:54] <Chrille> (Mostly to avoid products with binary only drivers)
  • [12:20:55] <jkridner> gferencz: kinda hard to remove it from packaging. :(
  • [12:21:43] <jkridner> Chrille: interesting... hadn't thought about it being for open hardware only. enclosures, for example. do they need to be open hardware?
  • [12:22:14] <Chrille> jkridner: Not an issue with cases and power supplies - but for capes and wifi adaptors it's a real issue
  • [12:22:19] <jkridner> Chrille: we can avoid approving devices that require binary blobs to function properly, though that's difficult when it comes to wi-fi adapters. :(
  • [12:22:34] <agmlego> Easy solution to that.
  • [12:22:42] <agmlego> Just make an OSHW wifi adapter.
  • [12:22:46] <agmlego> SImple, really. ;-P
  • [12:23:01] <jkridner> I haven't seen that be a real issue with capes, unless you refer to FPGA capes requiring closed source *tools*.
  • [12:23:57] <Chrille> jkridner: You should not require the vendor to publis the full hardware design, but it should be possible to build any code from source
  • [12:24:25] <jkridner> Chrille: k.
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  • [12:36:17] <vinoth> Good day, i had 3.2" tft color lcd module rev 5.0 16 bits. I need to interface with BBB in parallel i need circuit with code
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  • [12:54:26] <vinoth> Good Day,I have 3.2" tft ILI9325c lcd module. i need to interface with BBB in parallel 16 bits could u prefer any circuits and code
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  • [12:55:19] <agmlego> victortyau: Yeah, you asked that already.
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  • [12:55:31] <agmlego> Damn.
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  • [13:00:49] <vinoth> HELP
  • [13:01:13] <agmlego> victortyau: Maybe stick around a bit, and give us more detail on what you want.
  • [13:01:23] <agmlego> Or vinoth
  • [13:01:27] <agmlego> Not victortyau
  • [13:03:10] <vinoth> Good Day,I had 3.2" ILI9325c TFT lcd module. Need to interface with BBB in parallel 16 bits. Could u prefer any circuits and sample codes
  • [13:03:20] <agmlego> Right, you have said that three times now.
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  • [13:08:50] <veremit> probably a script on a timer, agmlego .. suggest we ban it ;)
  • [13:09:14] <agmlego> Right?
  • [13:11:26] <vinoth> any related works on tft lcd interfaces,
  • [13:11:59] <agmlego> vinoth: What have you tried already?
  • [13:13:02] <veremit> I've coupled a BBB to a chalkboard tft using a rgb-to-lvds serializer chip .. its not -that- hard if you have a basic grasp of electronics and linux :p
  • [13:13:32] <veremit> but if you want somebody to hand it to you on aplate, ready-working .. go check the internet or pay someone.
  • [13:14:01] <veremit> we can/will give you pointers, but we're not going to do the hard work
  • [13:14:28] <veremit> I suggest a lcd cape will take some of the burden away
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  • [13:18:14] <veremit> sorted :D
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  • [16:19:01] <Elias_> hi all
  • [16:19:33] <Elias_> can anyone give me some info about how to connect the beaglebone black with an external device
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  • [16:52:19] <nerdboy> that was vague...
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  • [17:12:24] <MacGyverX> How does one insert a custom dtbo into the kernel?
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  • [19:03:32] <jkridner> MacGyverX: it needs to be in /lib/firmware and then the CapeMgr can load it by properly specifying it to the 'slots' interface.
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  • [19:04:00] <jkridner> MacGyverX: where possible, use cape-universal and config-pin instead.
  • [19:04:08] <MacGyverX> My issue is it loads the one in the firmware instead of mine
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  • [19:05:20] <MacGyverX> Even when I tell it not to load it in uEnv.txt and load mine, it loads it in slot i.e. 7 instead of slot0.
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  • [19:07:52] <MacGyverX> I found a tool that complies the dts to dbto and creates an image and mv the image in the /boot/ folder, but it continues to load the stock kernel
  • [19:08:05] <MacGyverX> (custom dts)
  • [19:08:33] <MacGyverX> The end goal is to replace the ‘stock’ dtbo with mine.
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  • [19:16:06] <abferm> MacGyverX, uboot determines the device tree that gets loaded. Check out uEnv.txt. That is where you specify uboot options.
  • [19:16:43] <MacGyverX> ‘dtb=“ variable?
  • [19:16:52] <MacGyverX> If so, Mine is blank
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  • [19:34:19] <abferm> MacGyverX: yeah, just uncomment that line and set it to the name of your binary.
  • [19:35:40] <abferm> Has anyone had USB issues lately? I'm using a USB cell modem, an I am seeing it disconnect from USB fairly frequently.
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  • [19:36:02] <abferm> :~$ sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog|grep "USB disconnect"
  • [19:36:02] <abferm> Aug 20 18:51:40 ironhide kernel: [ 1475.070014] usb 1-1: USB disconnect, device number 4
  • [19:36:03] <abferm> Aug 20 18:53:17 ironhide kernel: [ 1572.352596] usb 1-1: USB disconnect, device number 5
  • [19:36:03] <abferm> Aug 20 18:56:12 ironhide kernel: [ 1746.707008] usb 1-1: USB disconnect, device number 6
  • [19:36:03] <abferm> Aug 20 19:16:58 ironhide kernel: [ 2992.752369] usb 1-1: USB disconnect, device number 7
  • [19:36:03] <abferm> Aug 20 19:18:21 ironhide kernel: [ 3075.867077] usb 1-1: USB disconnect, device number 8
  • [19:36:05] <abferm> Aug 20 19:32:55 ironhide kernel: [ 3949.652947] usb 1-1: USB disconnect, device number 9
  • [19:36:14] <MacGyverX> You mean the name of my custom dtbo?
  • [19:36:31] <abferm> yes
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  • [19:37:01] <abferm> actually you want a dtb, not a dtbo...
  • [19:37:25] <MacGyverX> That’s what I thought.
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  • [19:38:28] <abferm> a dtbo is an overlay I think...
  • [19:38:47] <MacGyverX> it is.
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  • [19:45:02] <gustavoz> abferm: usb cell modems usually consume an insane amount of power, out of the usb spec
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  • [19:50:42] <abferm> Power should not be an issue, unless the BeagleBone has issues passing it through the usb v_bus. Should be a little more than 3 A available on the 5V line.
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  • [19:54:55] <MacGyverX> So I guess I should revise the question to, how does one add a dtbo to an existing kernel image- To overwrite one that already in it.
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  • [19:57:27] <abferm> MacGyverX: I haven't done anything with overlays, I've just built full dtb files.
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  • [20:14:14] <abferm> gustavoz: I have 4 devices set up exactly the same, and only one of them is having issues.
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  • [20:15:41] <gustavoz> abferm: from personal experience it usually boils down to traffic, make & model
  • [20:18:43] <gustavoz> power consumption on them isn't constant, they can overshoot past the standard 500 mA easily and if the board has protection (polyfuse, etc) that can trip
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  • [20:24:56] <abferm> gustavoz: like I said, I have 4 of the same model connected up to different beaglebones. They all have the same traffic, etc. so I doubt it is a power issue. I also don't think that they have fuses of any kind on-board.
  • [20:27:58] <gustavoz> abferm: the BBB has a tps2051 to handle the power, which limits to 500 mA AFAIK
  • [20:28:23] <gustavoz> https://github.com/CircuitCo/BeagleBone-Black/blob/master/BBB_SCH.pdf?raw=true page 4
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  • [20:34:29] <abferm> gustavoz: according to the datasheet for that part, it should limit to ~1.18A. that should be more than enough for my modem.
  • [20:36:07] <gustavoz> abferm: short-circuit output current != continuous current
  • [20:36:44] <gustavoz> also which modem make/model are you talking about? and also modem consumption can vary by cell association, signal level and so on
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  • [20:37:10] <gustavoz> it's not uncommon for 3g/4g modems to peak at 1A easily
  • [20:37:24] <abferm> [Sierra Wireless, Incorporated] MC7750
  • [20:37:31] <abferm> 4g
  • [20:38:35] <abferm> but it should be under the same conditions as the other 3 modems, which are not showing this issue.
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  • [20:43:37] <gustavoz> is that the minipcie variant?
  • [20:45:18] <abferm> USB
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  • [20:46:47] <abferm> looks like minipcie, but I don't think it actually is. The carrier board I use it with just breaks out the usb pins
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  • [20:48:12] <gustavoz> abferm: small secret, the mini pcie modems are actually usb :)
  • [20:48:25] <gustavoz> they just made them in that format for internal laptop, notebook, etc uses
  • [20:48:57] <gustavoz> according to data peak current is 1.0/1.2A
  • [20:49:27] <gustavoz> also they work on 3.3V so the adapter down-regulates from USB 5V so there's some loss there
  • [20:49:35] <gustavoz> how much depends on the quality of the regulator
  • [20:49:45] <gustavoz> s/quality/efficiency/
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  • [20:56:11] <abferm> joy... It is looking like that may be the issue. It isn't really a problem at lower temperatures, because the tps cools off and the modem connects again, but our aplication is designed to live in an industrial environment. I was testing at 60 C and I was seeing the disconnects happen 1-2 times a minute. That makes it very hard to establish a connection and transmit data.
  • [20:56:47] <gustavoz> ahh that makes sense, power consumption normally up with temperature
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  • [20:57:28] <gustavoz> if you want to play a little you can desecrate a bbb and just short the safety measure (the tps2051) to see if that's the culprit
  • [20:57:33] <abferm> and the tps trip current is also affected by the temperature.
  • [20:58:31] <abferm> hmmm, I'm borrowing these from our production stock, so I need to get permission before doing any hardware modifications.
  • [20:59:54] <gustavoz> some of the minipcie-usb adapters have an ultracap to dampen the problem, which is more similar to the typical use for those modems (battery-backed)
  • [21:00:13] <abferm> also our BBBs are conformal coated, so that might make a big mess.
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  • [21:10:50] <[Butch]> Sorry for barging in on a really cool discussion, but I have a fairly (I hope) simple question: How does one upgrade the debian version on a BBB _without_ reflashing? I have a custom environment and I'd like to upgrade the OS without losing everything else I've ever done. It's all on microSD, if that matters at all.
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  • [21:26:25] <abferm> [Butch] you could conceivably just change the apt sources, and do a "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
  • [21:26:54] <abferm> dist-upgrade upgrades your main packages only.
  • [21:27:28] <abferm> I would make a backup of your system first because while this is supposed to be a smooth process it can break things.
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  • [21:32:01] <[Butch]> abferm: What's the right repo for the latest and greatest?
  • [21:33:27] <[Butch]> abferm: sources.list currently looks like this: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/1cf0d2f6d0c9dfe87869
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  • [21:44:59] <[Butch]> abferm: I have to run -- can you please check this gist and follow up privately? Thanks!
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  • [21:45:25] <[Butch]> abferm: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/8e7e390aefb3e9c988af
  • [21:45:34] <[Butch]> abferm: Thanks!
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  • [21:45:54] <djlewis> abferm: use a usb extension and splice the power wire to an external 5v source?
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