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  • [00:01:52] * Set by jkridner!~jkridner@pdpc/supporter/active/jkridner on Sun Mar 29 23:21:44 UTC 2015
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  • [00:24:06] <cipherstoner> i don't have a serial connect to check the log, but there was some sort of boot hang
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  • [01:02:50] <reza1359> hi any body know how can I add tochscreen to qt on new BBB image?
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  • [09:23:50] <Auke> Hi I'm trying to start a python script on boot that uses Tkinter, but it doesn't start. I tried to find out whether it ran or not; and using journalctl I found out that tkinter gave the no display name and no $Display variable
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  • [09:24:36] <Auke> exception. Does that mean that I have to start the script differently, or that the script tries to run before the display is instantiated?
  • [09:24:49] <LetoThe2nd> Auke: as usual, write a proper systemd unit that depends on the X display being ready.
  • [09:24:57] <Auke> (the code runs from terminal)
  • [09:25:32] <Auke> LetoThe2nd: so you think that it runs too soon?
  • [09:26:21] <LetoThe2nd> Auke: doesn't it sound like that?
  • [09:27:17] <Auke> LetoThe2nd: I hope so
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  • [10:16:17] <Auke> daaamn I just can't find anywhere how to set the order of bootscripts
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  • [10:41:10] <hs__> hello. Could i know how to flash Android on internal eMMC? i use BBB.
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  • [10:52:27] <av500> hs__: you would need to mirror the partition layout of the sd onto the emmc
  • [10:52:45] <av500> you can look at the debian flasher images how they do the format/partition/copy
  • [10:53:38] <hs__> where can i see emmc flashing user guide?
  • [10:54:05] <av500> there is no user guide
  • [10:54:18] <av500> you will need to look inside the flasher image itself
  • [10:54:26] <av500> there is a script that does the "flashing"
  • [10:54:41] <av500> its not really "flashing", its more like copy stuff around
  • [10:54:48] <av500> you can also do that by hand
  • [10:54:53] <av500> but there is no guide
  • [10:55:29] <hs__> so, if i wanna see guide, have to find google?
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  • [10:58:28] <av500> yes
  • [10:58:34] <av500> its a learning experience
  • [10:58:49] <av500> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtzdQSCKBis
  • [10:59:10] <av500> https://youtu.be/mtzdQSCKBis?t=38
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  • [11:00:33] <hs__> Thank you!
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  • [11:26:31] <Lirz> hey there
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  • [11:27:17] <Lirz> I need some support for my beagle board black :)
  • [11:28:23] <Lirz> First, what could possibly be wrong if all LED are on without a micro sd attached?
  • [11:29:34] <tbr> sounds like it gets stuck on boot
  • [11:30:11] <tbr> do you have a usb-to-serial cable for 3.3V logic?
  • [11:30:47] <Lirz> I have connect it with the micro usb and a microsd attached. Linux shows me the usb network device
  • [11:31:07] <Lirz> but its not reachable via 192.168.7.2 as mentioned in "getting started"
  • [11:31:34] <Lirz> i don't have a usb-to-serial cable
  • [11:32:20] <woglinde> get one
  • [11:32:30] <woglinde> saves your life on all embedded boards
  • [11:32:31] <tbr> indeed, highly recommended and cheap
  • [11:32:46] <tbr> what image did you put on your microSD card?
  • [11:32:58] <Lirz> latest angstrom
  • [11:33:15] <tbr> any specific reason for angstrom?
  • [11:33:29] <Lirz> nope, thought it should be okay
  • [11:33:35] <Lirz> use debian instead?
  • [11:33:59] <tbr> that's nowadays the default software
  • [11:34:13] <Lirz> ok, i will get it
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  • [11:36:23] <gerod> hi to all
  • [11:36:26] <Lirz> hi
  • [11:37:01] <gerod> anyone used gpio to count pulses
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  • [11:51:17] <Lirz> ok debian seems to work better, thx :)
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  • [11:53:24] <Lirz> yes, works like a charm
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  • [11:54:09] <Lirz> ok, thx guy. have a nice day!
  • [11:54:14] <Lirz> *guys
  • [11:54:19] <Lirz> and girls ;)
  • [11:54:20] <Lirz> bye
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  • [12:21:31] <domTOM> hej hi! Does anybody want to help me on my i2c issue
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  • [12:23:20] <bradfa> apparently not
  • [12:24:08] <bradfa> woglinde, don't go recommending ftdi cables! everyone should be using real 9 pin d-sub +/-12V signaling for /proper/ serial interfacing :)
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  • [12:38:40] <woglinde> bradfa haha
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  • [12:46:53] <Auke> Does someone know how to wait with starting a script until the display is loaded? Right now I get a Tkinter exception since there is no display value at the moment it starts during boot
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  • [12:47:50] <ogra_> you just answered that yourself ?
  • [12:48:09] <ogra_> (just make it wait for the DISPLAY variable to be set)
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  • [12:50:01] <KotH> ogra_: use proper ordering
  • [12:50:14] <ogra_> yeah, or that :)
  • [12:50:36] <KotH> ogra_: how to do that depends on the init system you use
  • [12:50:52] <KotH> er...
  • [12:51:05] <KotH> i mean Auke, of course
  • [12:51:11] <ogra_> init=/bin/sh is enough OS for everyone !
  • [12:51:25] * KotH needs more chocolate
  • [12:53:02] <Auke> ogra_: I don't know how to check on it. I'm using the way Derek Molloy decribed in his book (for Debian). I put the bootservice in lib/systemd/system and the script in etc/systemd/system
  • [12:53:13] <Auke> do I need to put the wait in the script or in the service?
  • [12:53:40] <ogra_> oh, if you use systemd, just make your service wait for the graphical service i guess
  • [12:54:15] <Auke> I tried that with after=.... but I think I'm doing something wrong since it still starts the service at the same time every time :P
  • [12:56:25] <woglinde> Auke uhm hm you need a user which uses the DISPLAY
  • [12:56:39] <KotH> please join the club of people who think systemd is too complicated for the debugging possibilities it offers :-)
  • [12:56:43] <woglinde> Auke aka logged in user
  • [12:56:54] <woglinde> Koth no the problem is all the same on others too
  • [12:57:13] <woglinde> getting xcookies and stuff
  • [12:58:22] * KotH wouldnt mind some cookies
  • [12:58:31] <Auke> woglinde: Ok please don't hate me for this, but I only have root (no users), do I need to create an extra user that just starts the display, to make sure it "exists" before running the script?
  • [12:58:57] <av500> Auke: what after= do you have?
  • [12:59:02] <KotH> woglinde: you mean $DISPLAY and xauth?
  • [13:00:20] <Auke> av500: I've tried several, the current one is "After=org.freedesktop.udisks2.service
  • [13:00:22] <Auke> "
  • [13:00:34] <av500> why this one?
  • [13:02:12] <Auke> that was the last service I see in journalctl, so I wanted to try if this makes the service start later on during the boot
  • [13:02:42] <ogra_> but that service doesnt depend on any graphical bits being available
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  • [13:03:09] <ogra_> you want to use something that provides or uses graphics for your after= statement
  • [13:03:24] <Auke> ogra_: I just wanted to test whether or not the moment my service started would be different using this one
  • [13:07:01] <av500> and?
  • [13:07:07] <av500> is it
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  • [13:07:16] <av500> pastebin the whole inut file
  • [13:07:19] <av500> unit
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  • [13:10:31] <Auke> sorry computer crashed
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  • [13:17:04] <Auke> How can I find out what the graphic services are?
  • [13:18:32] <av500> why not ask in #systemd?
  • [13:18:43] <av500> that seems like a standard problem to me
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  • [13:19:24] <av500> Auke: your issues seems less BBB related
  • [13:19:30] <av500> but more systemd generic
  • [13:20:00] <Auke> av500: ok, I'll try over there!
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  • [14:41:10] <jtallen5> Newbie. Beaglebone black connected to bmp180 i1c returns no data when example bmp085 temp/pressure demo is run.
  • [14:41:24] <jtallen5> Can anyone help?
  • [14:41:33] <av500> i1c?
  • [14:41:45] <jtallen5> i2c.
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  • [14:44:41] <jtallen5> Newie. Beaglebone black I2c seems not to work. How can I test?
  • [14:45:17] <jtallen5> BBB is running Debian Linux
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  • [14:45:47] <av500> ok
  • [14:45:52] <veremit> have you tied your bus lines high
  • [14:45:52] <av500> and you enabled I2C how?
  • [14:46:00] <veremit> and use i2c-detect in linux
  • [14:46:05] <av500> can you check the lines with a scope?
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  • [14:48:12] <jtallen5> Can check line with scope, but with voltmeter on scl and sdl, steady 3.29 volts.. i2cdetect shows no device connected.
  • [14:48:26] <veremit> And what method are you using ie. tutorial etc
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  • [14:48:59] <jtallen5> putty
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  • [14:49:28] <veremit> I meant are you following instructions/online /etc
  • [14:49:59] <veremit> av500 is probably right .. how are you activating the i2c bus .. have you created/used a device-tree file? what kernel version is your beagle?
  • [14:50:02] <jtallen5> Have not enabled i2c, assumed it was enabled at boot.
  • [14:50:07] <veremit> err no.
  • [14:50:46] <jtallen5> How do I enable?
  • [14:50:53] <veremit> only the internal i2c bus ont he beagle is activated by default
  • [14:51:10] <veremit> the other pins could potentially be used for other purposes
  • [14:51:25] <jtallen5> Also, assumed example code enabled i2c.
  • [14:52:16] <jtallen5> used pins 19 and 20.
  • [14:52:34] <veremit> very dangerous to assume .. especially in the embedded world ;)
  • [14:52:48] <agmlego|skynet> Code no longer enables stuff; magic files tewiddle the kernel to enable things now.
  • [14:52:59] <agmlego|skynet> Look up DeviceTree.
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  • [14:53:15] <veremit> hence why I asked which kernel version .. uname -a is your friend
  • [14:53:33] <veremit> however, debian gives a big clue
  • [14:53:34] <veremit> lol
  • [14:53:43] <veremit> not an angstrom board :)
  • [14:54:11] <jtallen5> Ran example program from the BBB webpage.
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  • [14:54:54] <veremit> which example on which page
  • [14:55:04] <veremit> there are thousands of 'beagle' web pages
  • [14:55:27] <jtallen5> On the BBB itself.
  • [14:55:43] <veremit> ah
  • [14:55:57] <jtallen5> http://192.168.7.2/bone101/Support/BoneScript/demo_bmp085/
  • [14:57:28] <veremit> have a look at https://learn.adafruit.com/downloads/pdf/introduction-to-the-beaglebone-black-device-tree.pdf
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  • [14:58:06] <jtallen5> Thanks, will do. Have a good day.
  • [14:58:45] <veremit> though that is a bit old .. the concepts are good .. and it uses RN's scripts .. +1
  • [15:00:14] <jtallen5> root@beaglebone:~# uname -a Linux beaglebone 3.8.13-bone70 #1 SMP Fri Jan 23 02:15:42 UTC 2015 armv7l GNU/Linux root@beaglebone:~#
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  • [15:02:03] <veremit> looks familiar :)
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  • [15:03:04] <veremit> aight .. I gotta git to work.. bbl :)
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  • [16:02:13] <OmarNevermind> Hi I want to receive data from port serial or tcp/IP and later comparate the information with databases using python. Anybody can help me?
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  • [16:08:30] <woglinde> OmarNevermind for both tasks using serial stuff and db stuff with python there are tons of instructions out in the internet
  • [16:08:33] <myself> you'll need to explain a little bit more of the research you've done, similar projects you've identified, and why you think simply copying what they did isn't suitable
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  • [16:38:42] <woglinde> hi jkridner
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  • [18:15:45] <mtnman> hello
  • [18:15:57] <mtnman> how is the world of beagle today?
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  • [18:17:55] <mtnman> does anyone know if there is a cape for disk i/o interface other than usb?
  • [18:20:51] <woglinde> quiet
  • [18:21:07] <mtnman> shh! you'll wake them up!
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  • [18:21:32] <_av500_> mtnman: no
  • [18:21:48] <_av500_> no sata or pata cape
  • [18:21:55] <_av500_> but pata would be a nice hack
  • [18:22:00] <_av500_> using the mem interface
  • [18:22:15] <_av500_> then you can chain a sata2pata bridge
  • [18:22:40] * bradfa is pretty sure the pru can bitbang ide
  • [18:23:04] <mtnman> what is bitbang?
  • [18:23:30] <bradfa> mtnman, it's where you slap the bits around to make them play nice
  • [18:23:43] <bradfa> kind of like gangbanging but with electronics
  • [18:24:11] <mtnman> what is pru?
  • [18:25:17] <mtnman> and what is mem interface?
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  • [18:32:33] <_av500_> what is google?
  • [18:32:40] <_av500_> mem = memory
  • [18:32:59] <_av500_> but if you ask all these questions, the answer is simply: no, there is no such cape
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  • [18:35:27] <mtnman> thanks that is the correct answer. good bye.
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  • [19:25:20] <superD_> Good afternoon! I am fairly new to BBB & am trying to get the CANbus working with a Chipsee BBB-EXP-C 7" display running on Debian release 3/1/2015 w/ Linux 3.14.43-ti-r66 kernel. Has anyone got CANbus working using can-utils?
  • [19:30:10] <tbr> ISTR that you still need a transceiver or such. does that cape have one?
  • [19:38:50] <superD_> the chipsee BBB-EXP-C 7" display has CANbus output pins built in w/ SN65HD1050 transistor (output @5V)
  • [19:39:14] <superD_> *transceiver
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  • [19:53:46] <tbr> superD_: well, then it will probably work. you'll make sure the mux is right (proper dt/dt-overlay)
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  • [19:54:31] <superD_> I'm not sure how to setup the MUX b/c I am new to linux as well as BBB
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  • [20:07:31] <_av500_> you need to load a DT overlay that enables CAN
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  • [20:26:29] <superD_> Where and how do I set a DT overlay in Debian? Is there a website specific to Debian Linux that describes this?
  • [20:28:35] <_av500_> https://www.google.com/search?q=beagleboard+load+dt+overlay
  • [20:28:40] <_av500_> its not debian specific
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  • [23:49:44] <Technicus> I just came up with the cure to the common cold. Anyone need help setting up email on their server?
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  • [23:52:41] <Technicus> No seriously . . . I just powered up a Beaglebone Black for the first time today. This thing is so much more interesting than the Raspberry Pi.
  • [23:53:56] <Technicus> My real question is, how can I configure this thing to reliably hibernate and wake up?