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  • [00:00:33] * Set by jkridner!~jkridner@pdpc/supporter/active/jkridner on Sun Mar 29 23:21:44 UTC 2015
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  • [00:02:09] <rtanakaz> veremit you mean, no badblocks scan needed? any advantages on runiing badblocks scan?
  • [00:03:14] <rtanakaz> (the documentation i found about the emmc is just so.. vague... its mor elike letronic schematics and brief explanation)
  • [00:04:59] <veremit> unless you'r really hammering the emmc, like re-writing the whole thing 20 times a day .. I wouldn't bother worrying about it
  • [00:05:27] <veremit> I wouldn't recommend running a database server on it, though. for example :)
  • [00:05:41] <veremit> not for a high traffic forum :D
  • [00:06:09] <veremit> its a single-core embedded cpu .. not a server.
  • [00:06:27] <veremit> besides that .. its a cool widget
  • [00:07:34] <rtanakaz> thanks for the feedback veremit, i think the same.. cool widget
  • [00:07:56] <rtanakaz> my worry about not writing on badblocks its about stability and availability
  • [00:08:29] <rtanakaz> do ou have any idea if there are any advantages on running badblocks scan?
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  • [00:09:10] <rtanakaz> i assume that probably it could identify badblocks earlier, does that make any sense?
  • [00:21:28] <sidharbel55> can anyone explain why my backup image fails to restore to the eMMC?
  • [00:21:34] <sidharbel55> here is a copy of the error
  • [00:21:51] <sidharbel55> http://pastebin.com/MH7CNLAJ
  • [00:22:03] <sidharbel55> and here is my autorun.sh file...
  • [00:22:42] <sidharbel55> http://pastebin.com/ddZ6LTXk
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  • [00:24:16] <sidharbel55> I have looked at every website which has a procedure listed on how to restore an image, but get the same errors everytime no matter what i change
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  • [00:28:18] <vvu> sidharbel55: so you already have the image backed up and you want to put it on the eMMC ?
  • [00:28:55] <vvu> sidharbel55: if so take a look at https://github.com/ungureanuvladvictor/BBBlfs
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  • [00:33:17] <sidharbel55> yes, i already have a backup image. I used beaglebneblack-save-emmc for this
  • [00:34:21] <sidharbel55> ok, so i need to use USB? i created the image using SD card and thought could restore this from SD card again by pressing S2 then applying power
  • [00:35:45] <sidharbel55> this looks to be a rather long procedure. I have over 30 boards that need the same configuration
  • [00:37:02] <sidharbel55> i made a master with all config, then backed it up to SD card and just wanted to restore this as per the procedure on the linux website (performing restore/flashing)
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  • [01:22:18] <bobbrez> Hey
  • [01:22:26] <bobbrez> Question about serial on the BBB
  • [01:22:52] <bobbrez> running `echo BB-UART2 > /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.*/slots` will enable it, but the setting is lost on reboot
  • [01:23:04] <bobbrez> How can I persist it?
  • [01:23:23] <bobbrez> I've enabled it in uEnv.txt as well without success
  • [01:25:30] <bobbrez> with `optargs=capemgr.enable_partno=BB-UART1,BB-UART2`
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  • [08:50:06] <kinkazu_> Hi all. I have installed 4.0 kernel, my USB RNDIS connection doesn't work anymore, windows drivers are installed, IP set and tested with 3.8.13 kernel
  • [08:50:14] <kinkazu_> anything I can do?
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  • [09:11:00] <kinkazu_> ifdown usb0 ifdown: interface usb0 not configured
  • [09:11:11] <kinkazu_> but ifconfig shows usb0 and its ip settings
  • [09:11:14] <kinkazu_> so why
  • [09:11:18] <kinkazu_> not configured
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  • [09:46:15] <clement> Hi all. I have installed weston 1.5, a wayland compositor but it doesn't word with the drm backend which is needed for graphic acceleration. Problems can come from EGL or libdrm of TI. Does anyone has an idea or has wayland with graphic acceleration on beagleboard?
  • [09:46:38] <av500> there is no graphic accell on BBB
  • [09:46:54] <av500> as far as I know
  • [09:47:10] <av500> I think there is only a driver that supports framebuffer
  • [09:47:12] <av500> but not X
  • [09:47:56] <clement> thanks
  • [09:48:16] <clement> i read some stuff like that
  • [09:49:42] <LetoThe2nd> well there is some blob that only works on some specific revision after the correct incantations and sacrificing some animal (the bigger, the better!) AFAIK, but for mere mortals it boils down to "no acceleration"
  • [09:50:09] <clement> :)
  • [09:53:37] <av500> why dont you toggle some GPIOs instead?
  • [09:54:01] <LetoThe2nd> accelerated bitbang FTW
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  • [10:00:22] <mdp> other boards are a much better choice if you'd like to experiment with Wayland
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  • [10:04:13] <clement> yes of course but we want to provide a distro on cheap boards
  • [10:05:17] * LetoThe2nd suggests amsp430 launchpad, then.
  • [10:05:30] <bwarff_> rpi2 or odroid c1 have the gfx for that i think, they dont have the io or builtin emmc that beagle attractive for other tasks
  • [10:06:02] <clement> LetoThe2nd: thanks i'll check that
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  • [10:06:38] <LetoThe2nd> clement: better don't do ;-)
  • [10:06:40] <mdp> also hummingboard/cubox-i (i.mx6) work nicely with wayland/weston and video accel
  • [10:06:58] <clement> mdp: yes already done ;)
  • [10:07:05] <mdp> the advantage of these is that like TI SoCs, i.mx6 also has docs
  • [10:07:23] <mdp> unlike those other closed POS SoCs
  • [10:07:40] <mdp> clement: +1 ;)
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  • [15:09:58] <marky9mark> hello
  • [15:10:10] <marky9mark> is there any casing for beagle boards?
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  • [15:15:43] <David62277> so can a beagle board support dual monitors?
  • [15:16:18] <woglinde> marky9mark there are some out for 3d printers
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  • [15:23:21] <veremit> marky9mark .. which beagle board? black must have several
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  • [16:13:32] <kinkazu> hi there. my usb-storage works fine when bbb connected to debian, but windows 7 doesn't detect anything
  • [16:13:35] <kinkazu> any ideas?
  • [16:13:39] <kinkazu> kernel 4.0
  • [16:14:01] <kinkazu> windows 7 detects rndis connection it works
  • [16:14:11] <kinkazu> but not usb-storage
  • [16:15:16] <fishey1> update on my search for the cause of blank LCDs with tilcdc when cpufreq is set to performance: it appears that tilcdc registers a callback to cpufreq to call tilcdc_crtc_update_clk if the clock changes. The only other time that function is called is within modeset, which is where the screen vanishes in the first place.
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  • [16:16:10] <fishey1> Even more curious: it doesn't appear that the values used by tilcdc_crtc_update_clk() (or at least those printed by it's debug messages) change at all between the invocations.
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  • [16:23:31] <_av500_> dies the lcd controller run off the cpu freq?
  • [16:23:33] <_av500_> does*
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  • [16:45:51] <azv4> I wonder what sample rate is necessary for input to provide response that human perception can't noticably notice
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  • [16:46:04] <azv4> noticably notice, not my best work
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  • [18:10:30] <azv4> _av500_, this is for the midi controller project
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  • [18:50:00] <_av500_> ah
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  • [18:50:41] <_av500_> 10ms should be easy to achieve
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  • [18:53:59] <azv4> what sample rate is necessary?
  • [18:54:10] <azv4> to get 10ms
  • [18:55:10] <azv4> Im thinking about breaking out all of the midi stuff on a seperate controller, trying to pick one that is lowest cost that will work well enough
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  • [18:55:58] <azv4> I hope MCP23017-E/SP is fast enough
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  • [18:57:42] <azv4> 1.7MHz
  • [18:57:45] <_av500_> well, fs = 1 / delta_t
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  • [18:58:27] <_av500_> this is not a controller
  • [18:58:40] <azv4> no, but it will extend GPIO
  • [18:58:50] <_av500_> the BBB does not have enough GPIO?
  • [18:59:09] <azv4> not for everthing I want
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  • [19:05:04] <azv4> the 32 gpio necessary for the matrix, 3-4 for pedals, 25ish for analog pots for controls, a bunch more Im still deciding on
  • [19:05:18] <azv4> I think I can do the matrix with 24 though actually, didn't we talk about that already?
  • [19:05:55] <azv4> if the I/O expanders dont work for the matrix, I will use them on an LED matrix I am planning for my living room
  • [19:06:22] <azv4> might move away from the BBB for the midi controller section also, to something lower cost, smaller, lower power
  • [19:06:39] <azv4> then step into something faster like an ODroid board for the sound module part
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  • [19:12:47] <azv4> cant figure out how to calculate sample rate from fs = 1 / delta_t
  • [19:13:23] <azv4> if I have 1.7MHz, is fs = 1 / 1.7? What is deltat?
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  • [19:14:23] <thurgood> 1.7 * 10^6
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  • [19:15:37] <thurgood> you only need 100Hz to get 10ms response, now how long the cycle takes could be a limiting factor
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  • [19:15:55] <azv4> ok, how is that measured? cycle time?
  • [19:17:05] <thurgood> if it's a clock for instance there is not really any perceptible work being done during the cycles
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  • [19:17:30] <thurgood> if it's signal processing it could be a bit of code per cycle
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  • [19:18:17] <azv4> over my head, but logged in hopes I can make sense of it later
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  • [19:56:39] <kinkazu> hi
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  • [19:56:50] <kinkazu> where can I find settings for g_multi?
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  • [19:58:07] <kinkazu> i mean iProduct iManufacturer and etc
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  • [19:58:28] <mjmcclary> Ah! I have a cursor at last!
  • [19:59:42] <mjmcclary> I have a question regarding posting to the google group. I did a followup question yesterday and it was labeled as waiting for
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  • [20:00:03] <mjmcclary> moderator attention before being posted. Today it's still not up.
  • [20:01:00] <mjmcclary> Is anybody here that might have any info on what I may have done wrong? Is there anything I should post here to clarify my situation?
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  • [20:01:52] <mjmcclary> I see many joining and quitting but no talking.
  • [20:02:01] <thurgood> mjmcclary: I think initial posts are always marked for moderation
  • [20:02:15] <mjmcclary> It was an initial post
  • [20:02:31] <mjmcclary> Do you know how long it usually takes for moderators to get to them?
  • [20:02:32] <thurgood> cuts down a bit on spam bots supposedly
  • [20:03:18] <thurgood> dunno, but you can probably ask here if you want
  • [20:04:02] <thurgood> as long as it's not gsoc related I doubt anyone will bite back for it
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  • [20:04:38] <mjmcclary> my question was on where to get to rcn's archive so I could load back image.
  • [20:04:59] <mjmcclary> I'm going to dig a bit to see if I can find the text...
  • [20:06:08] <mjmcclary> I was trying to do (on a beaglebone running 14.04)...
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  • [20:06:14] <mjmcclary> sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.14.26-ti-r44
  • [20:06:30] <thurgood> he used to have that stuff linked up on elinunx
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  • [20:07:23] <mjmcclary> It failed because it didn't have the necessary repositiory in /etc/apt/sources.list
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  • [20:10:29] <mjmcclary> Boss calls so I gotta bail. I'll come back later and ask again.
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  • [20:57:34] <fishey1> _av500_: according to TRM 8.1.6.10, the LCD can run off the "Master Osc". Not sure if that corresponds to cpufreq.
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  • [22:11:24] <mjmcclary> Good afternoon. Anyone here?
  • [22:11:55] <mjmcclary> (as in actually chatting rather than leaving the window open?)
  • [22:13:50] <mjmcclary> I'm trying to download a BBB kernel by issuing: sudo apt-get linux-image-3.14.26-ti-r44
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  • [22:15:29] <mjmcclary> According to RobertCNelson's instructions to Robert Fisher on Jan 18
  • [22:16:40] <mjmcclary> in the google board item titled Power Management - Suspend
  • [22:18:03] <mjmcclary> Fisher said he couldn't download - then could after he'd added a repository.
  • [22:18:14] <mjmcclary> I can't download and can't find the repository.
  • [22:18:20] <mjmcclary> Anyone know where to look?
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  • [22:23:34] * bobbrez hey one other question about flashing a BBB rev C with debian
  • [22:24:48] <bobbrez> i copied the latest image to a sd card, popped it in and started it with the user button held down. the eMMc light is flashing pretty quickly but its now 1+ hour since the process started
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  • [22:25:42] <bobbrez> is there someway to tell if something has gone wrong?
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  • [22:27:16] <bobbrez> hey, question about flashing a BBB rev C with Debian
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  • [22:28:53] <bobbrez> I copied the latest image from the BBB site using the Adafruit instructions. I popped in the sd card and booted with the USR button pressed, it lit up all 4 lights and then went into what looks like the proper flashing sequence. The eMMc light is quickly flashing. My question is that its been more than an hour at this point and its still "in progress" from what I can tell
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  • [22:29:40] <bobbrez> Is that normal? Is there a way to actually check progress or to see what's going on?
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  • [23:17:46] <GenTooMan> It may have just booted up do you have a console cable?
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  • [23:18:20] <GenTooMan> You may also wish to go to the beagleboard org site and pray it has up to date stuff.
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  • [23:29:06] <bobbrez> GenTooMan: I have a serial cable and it looks like its booted
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