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  • [00:00:33] * Set by jkridner!~jkridner@pdpc/supporter/active/jkridner on Fri Jan 30 15:50:42 UTC 2015
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  • [00:13:45] <luciano> hi , someone have this cape http://openhacks.com/page/productos/id/981/title/BeagleBone-Black-Expansion-%28Capacitive%29-5-inches#.VRG4-FmYreQ ?
  • [00:14:54] <rick_> trying to implement space (stick) parity on BBB. Anyone have any experience with this? My problem is on the receive side.
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  • [01:40:04] <Zock> Hey guys. I got a problem with my beaglebone black. when I use the usb cable to the PC, everything works fine, but when I plug it into the wall without the usb, it boots and shuts off after like 3 seconds. What is going on??
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  • [01:41:47] <GenTooMan> I can't tell? Do you have the console cable to plug into J1?
  • [01:42:07] <Zock> nope. I wanted to connect to it via Ethernet
  • [01:43:17] <Zock> does that work?
  • [01:43:22] <GenTooMan> Well I remember the early days of linux... like VT220 days of linux. Anyhow the point is you need to have some sort of feedback mechanism, or you will have a few blinking lights and nothing. What about your power supply IS IT CORRECT? IT should be 5V (regulated) and 2A.
  • [01:43:49] <Zock> 5v DC @ 2.1 amps
  • [01:44:19] <GenTooMan> Have you checked it with a multimeter? You pluged it into the PC with the USB connection and it works with that?
  • [01:44:43] <Zock> Ya it works if the power supply and usb are plugged in.
  • [01:44:57] <GenTooMan> What about just the USB?
  • [01:45:13] <Zock> Works just fine
  • [01:45:30] <Zock> I just checked... 5 v on a multimeter
  • [01:45:43] <Zock> positive center
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  • [01:46:37] <Zock> do I need to configure it to run on its own?
  • [01:46:43] <Zock> does it need a sd card?
  • [01:49:33] <GenTooMan> hopefully the polarity is correct. It should boot from the mmc (I could check that) Rev C board I pressume?
  • [01:49:48] <Zock> What should I do GenTooMan?
  • [01:50:08] <Zock> mmc?
  • [01:50:20] <Zock> beagleboard black
  • [01:50:38] <Zock> I dono what Rev
  • [01:50:59] <Zock> pretty new
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  • [01:52:45] <GenTooMan> If you paid ~$55 Us for it it's probably Rev C :D
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  • [01:53:31] <Zock> Yup! :D
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  • [01:55:01] <Zock> So now it boots when I plug it in, But when I plug the ethernet cable in, It dies.
  • [01:57:13] <GenTooMan> I wonder if POE is the problem. I would check the FAQ. Obviously it has something to do with the ethernet however I am uncertain what it is.
  • [01:57:49] <Zock> Hang on, It just died on its own after about 5 secs
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  • [02:04:45] <veremit> poe should make no difference if the magnetics are good
  • [02:05:06] <veremit> poe beagle would be cool, though
  • [02:05:47] <veremit> Zock ... do you have another power supply for the barrel connector you can try .. I think this one is struggling ..
  • [02:06:19] <veremit> it may be 5v when you start .. but if it goes below 4.8v I suspect the beagle will reset/shut down
  • [02:07:27] <hewball> how long is the ethernet?
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  • [02:09:56] <Zock> Its about 8 feet into a router
  • [02:10:06] <Zock> hewball
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  • [06:15:34] <Eugene_0> HI all , could you tell me how to block online and off line notification?
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  • [06:20:09] <av500> Eugene_0: depends on your client
  • [06:20:11] <av500> google it
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  • [06:24:28] <Eugene_0> av500: i tried but not found, i'm using a web browser, now i'm downloading pidgin, anyway, thank you
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  • [07:17:20] <hoseong> can i ask about BBB in this live chat?
  • [07:17:41] <tbr> yes, that's what it's for
  • [07:18:59] <hoseong> i want to write android into eMMC on board, how can i do?
  • [07:20:27] <hoseong> i successed sd booting but emmc failed
  • [07:21:40] <tbr> no idea. it /might/ be enough to just dd the sdcard to the emmc.
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  • [07:23:23] <hoseong> how can i get image for emmc android?
  • [07:23:47] <hoseong> i did dd but failed..
  • [07:24:41] <hoseong> i think problem is in image
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  • [08:23:41] <AxonetBE> Can anybody tell me how I can enable the 3rd i2c interface on kernel 3.14?
  • [08:26:18] <woglinde> AxonetBE as I said yesterday ask robert c nelson when he is here
  • [08:26:37] <woglinde> thats maybe in the afternoon of your timezone
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  • [08:26:47] <woglinde> or use google
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  • [09:06:25] <alexandros> hello
  • [09:08:40] <alexandros> Can anyone tell me what is the maximum frequency for ADC sampling without PRU for BBB?
  • [09:09:38] <tbr> probably a few khz. If you go for DMA then much higher.
  • [09:12:15] <alexandros> So, with a sampling rate of about 500Hz it would be okay to process a real-time signal without PRU?
  • [09:12:41] <tbr> might work, dunno
  • [09:12:55] <av500> define process?
  • [09:12:59] <av500> just sample it?
  • [09:13:06] <av500> or respond in real time?
  • [09:13:27] <tbr> the original driver isn't the highest quality. I sometimes get bogus values, so I smooth them.
  • [09:16:08] <alexandros> The process is basically about filtering. The signal will be an ECG. And I'd like to do a real-time filtering and after that a heart rate recognition algorithm.
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  • [09:18:01] <alexandros> I am wondering if I can accomplish it without usage of PRU.
  • [09:18:04] <av500> what do you mean with real time filtering?
  • [09:19:59] <alexandros> I want to filter the signal in parts as it goes into BBB. In this way i'll be able to show it in a monitor.
  • [09:20:43] <alexandros> But without stopping, as it works in patient monitors in hospitals.
  • [09:21:03] <av500> without stopping does not mean real time
  • [09:21:14] <av500> you can hook up a simple SPI ADC
  • [09:21:20] <av500> let that be read via DMA
  • [09:21:30] <av500> and then process it with a short delay from user space
  • [09:21:35] <av500> no need for PRU
  • [09:27:12] <alexandros> In that case I'll need an extra ADC board? That what it is?
  • [09:28:09] <av500> https://www.google.com/search?q=beaglebone+ADC+SPI
  • [09:28:23] <av500> e.g. https://donfuge.wordpress.com/2014/05/04/getting-started-with-the-ads1248-on-the-beaglebone-black/
  • [09:29:01] <av500> and https://www.google.com/search?q=beaglebone+SPI
  • [09:29:39] <alexandros> Okay, let me check it out. Thank you for your answers, be well av500.
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  • [09:38:35] <son> can i ask at this chat?
  • [09:38:52] <woglinde> son sure
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  • [09:40:19] <av500> ask, dont ask to ask
  • [09:44:41] <son> thanks. i wanna install android to BBB by using mkmmc-android.sh. so i typed $sudo ./mkmmc-android.sh /dev/sdb1 but "mount special device dev sdb1 does not exist" error echoed
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  • [09:47:23] <son> isnt partiton be formed by mkmmc-android.sh?
  • [09:47:27] <av500> yes
  • [09:47:35] <av500> check first what device your card is
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  • [09:47:45] <av500> it could be some other /dev/sd*
  • [09:47:58] <av500> when you insert the card and run dmesg, you should see
  • [09:48:19] <av500> also, why sdb1?
  • [09:48:21] <av500> and not sdb?
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  • [09:49:02] <son> i dont know...
  • [09:49:06] <av500> but first check what your card is
  • [09:49:24] <av500> well, if you dont know, you should not run such commands as root
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  • [09:50:26] <son>
  • [09:50:42] <son> . /dev/sdb1 is right
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  • [09:53:25] <son> i plugged SD card using sd to usb convertor
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  • [09:58:41] <av500> so then its /dev/sdb
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  • [09:59:56] <son> how can i change sdb1 to sdb
  • [10:00:45] <woglinde> son ask your supervisor for another task
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  • [10:01:36] <av500> son: 1) you move the cursor behind the "1"
  • [10:01:43] <av500> 2) you press BACKSPACE
  • [10:01:50] <av500> 3) done
  • [10:02:07] * ogra_ would use scissors
  • [10:02:10] <ogra_> just cut off the partition from the SD
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  • [10:07:47] <son> but partition does not exist
  • [10:08:00] <son> i see fdisk
  • [10:09:33] <av500> what instructions are you following?
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  • [10:27:52] <Ad0> hello! through what interface would you connect wifi, bluetooth 4.0 and a SIM900 through? SP1, USB, UART?
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  • [10:29:37] <Ad0> + motion sensor + pressure sensor
  • [10:29:43] <Ad0> + temp sensor
  • [10:29:54] <Ad0> I guess those 3 go through I/O
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  • [10:35:07] <av500> what is a sim900?
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  • [10:42:03] <Ad0> SIM900 is a chip for GPRS/GSM
  • [10:42:12] <Ad0> can receive / make calls, SMS, data
  • [10:42:31] <Ad0> I just wonder how many SPI you can do in series
  • [10:46:44] <Humpelst1lzchen> Ad0: wifi and bluetooth: USB because the driver is usually tested best
  • [10:47:20] <woglinde> Humpelst1lzchen o.O
  • [10:47:31] <woglinde> musb will shred your wifi sooner or later
  • [10:47:33] <Ad0> ok Humpelst1lzchen
  • [10:47:49] <Ad0> woglinde: shred?
  • [10:48:09] <Humpelst1lzchen> temp, pressure, motion: not that difficult, driver can easily be written, so e.g. i2c
  • [10:48:19] <woglinde> Ad0 yes musb will go beserk and you will lost wifi
  • [10:49:09] <Ad0> that can't happen
  • [10:49:19] <Ad0> people will die
  • [10:49:26] <Ad0> so I need a mission critical solution
  • [10:49:33] <Ad0> :)
  • [10:49:38] <tbr> don't use a BBB
  • [10:49:50] <Ad0> why not
  • [10:50:08] <tbr> it's not meant for use cases where people could die as the result
  • [10:50:09] <Ad0> it's still the same ARM CPU as you would find by itself etc
  • [10:50:41] <Ad0> ok tbr they won't die but it should be able to run nonstop 24/7 without failure
  • [10:51:52] <tbr> for the SIM900, I'd use an UART
  • [10:52:02] <Ad0> yeah I guess that's a given
  • [10:52:07] <Ad0> most are UART as an interface
  • [10:52:09] <Humpelst1lzchen> woglinde: you have stable wifi over !usb?
  • [10:52:33] <Ad0> but wifi, bluetooth and sim can't all be uart right?
  • [10:52:38] <Ad0> need 3 uarts then
  • [10:52:43] <tbr> Humpelst1lzchen: hard to say which one will be worse, usb or Wilink8 cape...
  • [10:52:54] <Ad0> maybe use the gpio as soft uart?
  • [10:52:58] <tbr> Ad0: board has 6 uarts or so
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  • [10:53:20] <Ad0> hm I actually had a hard time finding a proper spec
  • [10:53:22] <Ad0> on what it can do
  • [10:53:37] <tbr> check SRM and TRM, both should be linked from elinux
  • [10:55:08] <tbr> Ad0: I'm not recommending it, but consider the WiLink8 cape. it would have WiFi and BT AFAIU.
  • [10:55:26] <Ad0> ok
  • [10:56:14] <Ad0> thanks
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  • [10:56:26] <Ad0> is there a list sorted by stability or somethign
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  • [11:05:17] <Knaldgas> Hi ddrown - I now have UART4 running with 1PPS using your guide. I did change the 1PPS pin to P8.35 (UART4 CRT-line), but "ppstest /dev/pps0" outputs 1pps, so I guess the changes I made are ok
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  • [11:06:15] <Knaldgas> Now I'm a bit confused why the gpsd creates another pps-device: /dev/pps1, which does not work...
  • [11:06:47] <woglinde> look at the gpsd source code?
  • [11:07:00] <Knaldgas> Is that something I should ignore and just get on with installing chrony?
  • [11:07:15] <Knaldgas> Hi woglinde :)
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  • [11:13:39] <woglinde> knaldgas no idea
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  • [11:39:31] <jsolano> hello all
  • [11:41:15] <jsolano> I cannot get USB working on a BBB, I tried different USB devices and nothing is detected
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  • [11:43:47] <jsolano> I have compiled a 3.14 kernel with the usual USB, PHY, mass storage options enabled and I get what seems correct prints on booting, usb-storage, ehci_hcd enabled
  • [11:44:52] <jsolano> Anybody knows where I could get a 3.14.36 kernel config to compare it to mine? thanks
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  • [11:45:46] <jsolano> I have also tried to connect devices before powering up but no joy
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  • [12:07:39] <Humpelst1lzchen> jsolano: http://defiant.homedns.org/~erik/bbb_config
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  • [12:17:08] <michaelgobbers> Hi All, could someone tell me where I change the vmalloc size? I’m trying to run the 3.14 kernel with android kitkat. The kernel is booting but it seems I’m stuck in a bootloop when the android homescreen gets rendered. I keep getting thrown back to the boot logo.
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  • [12:36:35] <thunder_kk> i have shorted p9_24 and p9_26 pins in beaglebone black running debian version 3.8.* kernel. i used adafruit python library to enable it and i have also /dev/ttyO1 as indicated in that tutorial but when i fire minicom i dont get back what i have typed. I tried googling this issue but with no fruitful results. please help me
  • [12:37:14] <thunder_kk> i was enabling UART communication
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  • [12:38:46] <Knaldgas> thunder_kk: minicom, doesn't that have handshake enabled by default?
  • [12:39:36] <thunder_kk> Knaldgas: i didn't understand can you please elaborate
  • [12:40:37] <Knaldgas> Serial communication can have hardware handshake (DTR/DSR, RTS/CTS), and when enabled either end wont send anything until the handshake signals from the other end allows transmission
  • [12:42:09] <thunder_kk> Knaldgas: ohh i was connecting gps modules which doesn't have any handshake hardware. okay how to disable the handshake??
  • [12:42:51] <Knaldgas> In minicom: ctrl-A O, then Serial Port setup, then "F" for Hardware Flow Control
  • [12:43:22] <thunder_kk> Knaldgas: Thank you very much
  • [12:43:24] <Knaldgas> And you do call minicom with the right device?
  • [12:43:42] <Knaldgas> minicom -d /dev/ttyO1
  • [12:44:51] <thunder_kk> Knaldgas: okay will do as you told. thanx
  • [12:46:02] <Knaldgas> np
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  • [12:48:48] <Knaldgas> Hrmpf, ppstest /dev/pps0 is working, gpsd is running, but chronyc sources don't see any pps updates...
  • [12:49:04] <Knaldgas> NMEA messages is coming thoough
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  • [12:49:46] <Knaldgas> In chrony.conf: "refclock PPS /dev/pps0 refid PPS lock NMEA"
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  • [12:55:54] <thunder_kk> Knaldgas: okay i will try
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  • [13:32:27] <thunder_kk> Knaldgas: i have tried disabling software and hardware handshakes but it still not echoing back whatever i have typed
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  • [13:44:41] <Knaldgas> thunder_kk: try open two terminals on your BBB
  • [13:45:12] <Knaldgas> Execute: stty -F /dev/ttyO2 19200 raw
  • [13:45:49] <Knaldgas> Ehh, "stty -F /dev/ttyO1 19200 raw" in your case
  • [13:47:25] <Knaldgas> thunder_kk: Sorry, use this one instead: stty -F /dev/ttyO2 19200 raw clocal -crtscts
  • [13:48:11] <Knaldgas> (replace /dev/ttyO2 with /dev/ttyO1 if that's the port your using)
  • [13:48:25] <Knaldgas> Then in one terminal execute: cat /dev/ttyO2
  • [13:48:38] <Knaldgas> And in the other: echo Test >/dev/ttyO2
  • [13:48:48] <Knaldgas> and see if it comes through
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  • [13:51:12] <Knaldgas> or not...
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  • [14:00:53] <AxonetBE> if I enable my i2c-1 on kernel 3.8 he is on bus 2, why not on bus 1? Should be more logical :)
  • [14:01:08] <AxonetBE> now ic2-0 is on bus 0, ic2-1 on bus 2 and ic2-2 on bus 1
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  • [14:03:38] <narcos> Hi all. Can I map onboard LEDs to GPIO pins?
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  • [14:04:00] <narcos> My BBB is in a case, and I have external LEDs plugged into GPIO pins.
  • [14:05:07] <thunder_kk> Knaldgas: i was disconnected due to poor connectivity. i followed what you told but still with no luck. can you please give me another method please please
  • [14:06:01] <Knaldgas> thunder_kk: cat /proc/tty/driver/OMAP-SERIAL ?
  • [14:06:30] <Knaldgas> just the line for UART1
  • [14:06:45] <thunder_kk> Knaldgas: serinfo:1.0 driver revision:
  • [14:06:45] <thunder_kk> 0: uart:OMAP UART0 mmio:0x44E09000 irq:72 tx:362 rx:0 RTS|CTS|DTR|DSR
  • [14:06:45] <thunder_kk> 1: uart:OMAP UART1 mmio:0x48022000 irq:73 tx:218 rx:1 brk:1 RTS|CTS|DTR|DSR|CD|RI
  • [14:06:45] <thunder_kk> 2: uart:OMAP UART2 mmio:0x48024000 irq:74 tx:30 rx:1 brk:1 CTS|DSR
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  • [14:10:02] <Knaldgas> thunder_kk: miniterm.py -p /dev/ttyO1 -b 19200
  • [14:10:08] <Knaldgas> and then type away?
  • [14:11:19] <thunder_kk> Knaldgas: no i can't see back what i have typed
  • [14:11:47] <Knaldgas> Exit miniterm.py and try this: miniterm.py -p /dev/ttyO1 -b 19200 --rts=1 --dtr=1
  • [14:13:40] <thunder_kk> Knaldgas: Sorry but still i can see back whats typed
  • [14:14:02] <Knaldgas> Then I think you will have to double-check wiring
  • [14:14:44] <thunder_kk> Knaldgas: yup i will check it now. thanx!
  • [14:17:26] <thunder_kk> Knaldgas: you are perfect you made my day miniterm i typed a bit wrong sorry for that. thank you very much. thank you
  • [14:20:21] <Ad0> why isn't beaglebone considered fit for mission critical applications when other arm based boards can be ?
  • [14:22:00] <thunder_kk> Ad0: only military grade devices are for mission critical apps. beaglebone is only for amateurs and hobbyists.
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  • [14:25:27] <Ad0> thunder_kk: ok what about stuff that's in home security then
  • [14:25:34] <Ad0> like an alarm that sends a signal to the central
  • [14:25:53] <Ad0> I don't understand why beaglebone can't be used for stuff like that
  • [14:26:15] <ddrown> Knaldgas: to answer your previous question, gpsd automatically sets up a pps on the serial port. you can safely ignore it
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  • [14:26:36] <ddrown> Knaldgas: and chrony requires the NMEA messages to be within +-200ms for the PPS messages to be considered valid
  • [14:26:56] <ddrown> so messing with the offset should help that, or using a pool ntp server
  • [14:27:04] <Ad0> I mean what would you use for such stuff then?
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  • [14:31:54] <thunder_kk> Ad0: every military and life saving device undergoes many tests. those devices are not made of normally used materials. for example lamborghini driver makes an accident and if balloon not blows on his face then the sesnsors are faulty and he can sue the complete company for selling that. and you can't screw beaglebone creators or company if your alarm didn't blow. so using or not using depends on your own risk. for that sake people say taking
  • [14:31:54] <thunder_kk> care of your well being dont use
  • [14:32:48] <Ad0> but home security - they have to use something
  • [14:33:11] <Ad0> I bet my ass they use a sim300 / sim900 with an AVR
  • [14:33:18] <av500> so?
  • [14:33:23] <av500> sure you can use the BBB for that
  • [14:33:37] <av500> if you sell the device, its your responsibility
  • [14:33:53] <thunder_kk> Ad0: then you find a vulnerability and you can sue them
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  • [14:34:19] <Ad0> hehe
  • [14:34:24] <Ad0> doesnt work like that in norway
  • [14:35:36] <thunder_kk> Ad0: haha why it wouldn't? give it a try. and if you want i will backup :P
  • [14:36:14] <Ad0> hehe
  • [14:36:25] <Ad0> but people have to use something right
  • [14:36:30] <av500> sure
  • [14:36:36] <av500> ppl are free to use whatever they want
  • [14:36:49] <Ad0> but what do they typically use?
  • [14:36:53] <av500> depends
  • [14:37:03] <Ad0> of course but let's say a home alarm system
  • [14:37:10] <av500> still depends
  • [14:37:14] <Ad0> sigh :P
  • [14:37:20] <av500> well, what do you expect?
  • [14:37:21] <Ad0> where do people figure this out then
  • [14:37:27] <av500> "all home alarms use arduinos"
  • [14:37:30] <Ad0> haha
  • [14:37:46] <Ad0> I would like something they use this setup or they use atmel blah blah
  • [14:37:47] <av500> "all ATMs use OS/2 on 486s"
  • [14:37:57] <av500> Ad0: you wont get that answer
  • [14:38:06] <Ad0> ATMs arent fully mission critical, they just don't have to fuck up
  • [14:38:17] <Ad0> they can have downtime
  • [14:38:21] <Ad0> and they often do too
  • [14:38:45] <thunder_kk> Ad0: imagine in india they still use win xp in ATM's no words then
  • [14:38:53] <Ad0> hehe
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  • [15:04:09] <altairpearl> hey guys . I want to know the impact of the project "orbital imaging cubesat " on the beagleboard community . will you please provide me some feedback ?
  • [15:05:08] <agmlego|skynet> altairpearl: try not to aim it at us when it crashes, and the impact will be minimal.
  • [15:05:32] <agmlego|skynet> design it to burn up before ground contact if possible.
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  • [15:17:33] <altairpearl> lol >.<
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  • [15:23:23] <Knaldgas> ddrown: Woohoo :)
  • [15:23:40] <ddrown> Knaldgas: you got it?
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  • [15:23:53] <Knaldgas> ddrown: Yup :-D
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  • [15:24:00] <Knaldgas> Thanks ddrown!!!
  • [15:24:56] <ddrown> nice
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  • [15:25:50] <Knaldgas> ddrown: NMEA +201ms and PPS +241ms
  • [15:26:08] <ddrown> are those your current offsets?
  • [15:26:17] <ddrown> those should settle down
  • [15:26:27] <Knaldgas> ddrown: NMEA -41ms and PPS +748us
  • [15:26:30] <Knaldgas> now
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  • [15:27:06] <Knaldgas> However, the noselect and minsamples were not recognized by my version
  • [15:27:30] <ddrown> I'd expect PPS offset to go under 1us, possibly under 100ns depending on various conditions
  • [15:28:33] <Knaldgas> The offset and delay for the NMEA, how do I tune those?
  • [15:28:41] <Knaldgas> PPS is now +194
  • [15:28:42] <Knaldgas> us
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  • [15:29:12] <ddrown> the delay of 0.2s for NMEA is fine, just tells chrony not to trust it :)
  • [15:29:29] <ddrown> for the offset, just average out a few hour's worth of samples
  • [15:30:01] <Knaldgas> So ideally adjust offset heading for 0ms?
  • [15:30:12] <ddrown> yeah
  • [15:30:15] <Knaldgas> Roger
  • [15:30:21] <Knaldgas> 317ns PPS
  • [15:30:30] <ddrown> NMEA is going to jump around by tens, even hundreds of ms
  • [15:30:39] <ddrown> so don't be surprised by that
  • [15:31:02] <Knaldgas> Hold on... Which of the values to focus on, the ones within brackets or the ones outside?
  • [15:31:35] <ddrown> I think the ones within are the raw samples and the ones without have been adjusted
  • [15:32:25] <Knaldgas> Do you know where I find the meaning of the second character there, * + ~?
  • [15:32:38] <ddrown> chronyc sources -v
  • [15:33:09] <ddrown> chronyc sourcestats ; chronyc tracking
  • [15:33:13] <ddrown> also have useful data
  • [15:33:22] <Knaldgas> DUH - I hate when I have been looking around, and then the answer is obvious ...
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  • [15:34:18] <Knaldgas> So NMEA "Ok for sync" and PPS "current synced" is what I'm after?
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  • [15:34:53] <ddrown> PPS current synced is mainly the goal
  • [15:35:12] <ddrown> with noselect, my NMEA is marked as ? - unreachable
  • [15:37:11] <Knaldgas> noselect: "Never select this source"
  • [15:37:19] <Knaldgas> Makes sense :)
  • [15:37:22] <ddrown> yup
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  • [15:41:34] <Knaldgas> And it's ok for "chronyc activity" to ready "0 sources online"?
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  • [15:42:05] <ddrown> hm, I'd expect it to say 1 source at least
  • [15:42:13] <ddrown> is the PPS still in * status?
  • [15:42:22] <Knaldgas> Yes, and NMEA in +
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  • [15:42:43] <ddrown> hm, I wonder if that's a bug then?
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  • [15:43:16] <ddrown> "chronyc tracking" should say Stratum 1 and refid of 80.80.83.0 (PPS)
  • [15:44:09] <Knaldgas> Yep
  • [15:46:21] <Knaldgas> chronyc version 1.24, probably an older one
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  • [16:04:46] <Knaldgas> ddrown: The system is meant to float around on a buoy, i.e. no Internet and the only time service will be GPS. The in-system clock cannot be relied upon at power-up. Which chrony directives will be relevant for me?
  • [16:05:07] <Knaldgas> I mean, chrony should be allowed to set system time by several months during startup
  • [16:05:16] <Knaldgas> initstepslew is one directive
  • [16:05:20] <ddrown> I think the defaults should be ok
  • [16:05:25] <ddrown> but that's a good thing to test
  • [16:06:14] <Knaldgas> Hmm: initstepslew apparently only works with NTP sources...
  • [16:07:02] <Knaldgas> makestep perhaps
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  • [16:11:48] <agmlego|skynet> ntp is availabile over aprs.
  • [16:11:53] <agmlego|skynet> ;-P
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  • [16:13:50] <Knaldgas> In the Arctics as well? ;-)
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  • [16:15:10] <agmlego|skynet> sure, 2m propagation is Pretty good.
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  • [16:15:44] <agmlego|skynet> realistically, could you just use an external rtc?
  • [16:18:59] <Knaldgas> Well, they need position, heading and time, so a dual-GPS is likely the right thing to do
  • [16:19:34] <agmlego|skynet> right, i am trying to solve the initial calandar-time set.
  • [16:19:47] <agmlego|skynet> which you could store in an external rtc.
  • [16:20:16] <agmlego|skynet> gps should be fine for clock-level discipline.
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  • [16:21:51] <Knaldgas> Ah I see, well, they need a GPS so they can just as well get date and time from the GPS as well, or am I missing something?
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  • [16:22:28] <AxonetBE> I use the debian from http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardDebian
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  • [16:22:45] <AxonetBE> but when I ssh there is always a message with the default username and passwod
  • [16:22:50] <AxonetBE> where can I remove this?
  • [16:23:02] <honestly> /etc/ssh/banner
  • [16:23:06] <honestly> or something like that
  • [16:23:40] <Knaldgas> /etc/issue
  • [16:23:53] <AxonetBE> yes thats it:)
  • [16:23:55] <AxonetBE> thanks Knaldgas
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  • [16:24:08] <Knaldgas> Or rather: /etc/ssh/sshd_config points at /etc/issue
  • [16:25:23] <AxonetBE> Knaldgas: and also /etc/issue.net
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  • [17:37:04] <Parduz> I can't compile on the BBB with .... while the same source compiles under Windows.
  • [17:37:17] <Parduz> here a paste of the make output from debian
  • [17:37:26] <Parduz> root@beaglebone:/home/debian/MSX_PG/Debug_Build# make
  • [17:37:28] <Parduz> /home/debian/wxWidgets-3.0.2/build-debug/bk-deps g++ -c -o msxpg_Util.o -D__WXGTK__ -I../src -DWXUSINGDLL -Wall -Wundef -Wunused-parameter -Wno-ctor-dtor-privacy -Woverloaded-virtual -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -I/home/debian/wxWidgets-3.0.2/build-debug/lib/wx/include/gtk2-unicode-3.0 -I/home/debian/wxWidgets-3.0.2/include -pthread -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/gtk-2.0/incl
  • [17:37:29] <Parduz> ude -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/gdk-pixbuf-2.0 -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/gio-unix-2.0/ -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/libpng12 -DWX_PRECOMP -pthread -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pthread -I/usr/include/gtk-unix-print-2.0 -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0...
  • [17:37:31] <Parduz> ...-I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/gdk-pixbuf-2.0 -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/include/gio-unix-2.0/ -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/libpng12 -fvisibility=hidden -fvisibility-inlines-hidden ../src/Utilities/Utilities.cp
  • [17:37:32] <Parduz> p
  • [17:37:34] <Parduz> In file included from ../src/Utilities/Utilities.h:8:0,
  • [17:37:35] <Parduz> from ../src/Utilities/Utilities.cpp:9:
  • [17:37:37] <Parduz> ../src/Utilities/Declarations.h:11:9: error: ‘uint8_t’ does not name a type
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  • [17:37:38] <Parduz> ../src/Utilities/Declarations.h:12:9: error: ‘uint16_t’ does not name a type
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  • [17:37:40] <Parduz> ../src/Utilities/Declarations.h:13:9: error: ‘uint32_t’ does not name a type
  • [17:37:41] <Parduz> ../src/Utilities/Declarations.h:14:9: error: ‘uint64_t’ does not name a type
  • [17:37:51] <Parduz> the makefile is made by hand by me: what i'm missing?
  • [17:38:02] <woglinde> please use a pastebin
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  • [17:38:21] <woglinde> and thats not a beagle question
  • [17:38:27] <woglinde> its a wxWidgets question
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  • [17:39:30] <Parduz> ....shame on me... i don't know what it mean "pastebin". And "uintXX_t" are not declared in the wxWidget files, but in MinGW
  • [17:39:35] <woglinde> and I do not think -DWXUSINGDLL is meant for a unix system
  • [17:40:32] <Parduz> that is the output of the "configure". I copied the makefile and adapted to my source
  • [17:40:50] <woglinde> http://pastebin.com/
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  • [17:42:34] <Parduz> http://pastebin.com/u0VEt9RS
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  • [19:25:00] <erakis_> Hi, I've build an image using Buildroot and the "beaglebone_defconfig" file. I'm getting kernel loading on tty but I'm getting no output on HDMI, did I miss something ?
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  • [20:23:24] <erakis_> Hi, I've build an image using Buildroot and the "beaglebone_defconfig" file. I'm getting kernel loading message on tty(ftdi cable) but I'm not getting any output on micro-hdmi, did I miss something ?
  • [20:24:26] <agmlego|skynet> you asked that already.
  • [20:24:48] <agmlego|skynet> please read the topic.
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  • [20:33:58] <wmat> erakis_: what beaglebone_defconfig are you referring to?
  • [20:35:32] <erakis_> <@wmat> : The one comming with buildroot in /configs/beaglebone_defconfig
  • [20:36:47] <wmat> gimme a sec while I clone the repo
  • [20:37:10] <erakis_> @wmat : This is what I'm getting on the console : http://pastebin.com/XKSU0dNj
  • [20:40:13] <wmat> erakis_: do you have any capes plugged in?
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  • [20:42:21] <erakis_> No I have no cape plugged in. I only have the FTDI cable connected to my host computer (Windows 7) and Putty and also an HDMI cable to a monitor LG 22''. And I'm not getting any output to the monitor, only on the serial console :(
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  • [20:45:15] <erakis_> <@wmat> : I also tried using one of our cape here (CLAP070LF02CW) but I get no output too. The hdmi is well working on this board as I test with the beaglebone stock image and this is working.
  • [20:46:01] <wmat> can you login as root on the console?
  • [20:46:10] <erakis_> yes
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  • [20:46:59] <wmat> try this: cd /sys/class/drm/card0/card0-HDMI-A-1
  • [20:47:18] <wmat> then once in that dir: parse-edid edid
  • [20:47:26] <wmat> what do you see?
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  • [20:47:42] <erakis_> @wmat : -sh: cd: /sys/class/drm/card0/card0-HDMI-A-1: No such file or directory
  • [20:48:38] <erakis_> @wmat : It seem that I don't have a "drm" folder.
  • [20:48:51] <wmat> hmmm, my info may be out of date
  • [20:49:15] <wmat> have you tried a different hdmi cable?
  • [20:49:32] <erakis_> Yes, no positive result :(
  • [20:51:00] <wmat> can you search for the card0 dir?
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  • [20:51:45] <erakis_> @wmat : "find / -name card0" = no result
  • [20:51:55] <tbr> wmat: could it be that it's a defconfig for the original beaglebone? aka bbw?
  • [20:52:50] <wmat> tbr: it's possible
  • [20:53:27] <tbr> people running buildroot might not be interested in HDMI, so not even notice the missing output :)
  • [20:55:16] <wmat> tbr: of course the readme.txt in the board directory doesn't help
  • [20:55:42] <erakis_> @wmat : More info : I have a beaglebone Rev.C. I used buildroot and clone the repo yesterday. I use the following command on buildroot : "make beaglebone_defconfig" and then "make".
  • [20:57:44] <erakis_> I'm looking for a lightweigh linux image (no X11), with (systemd, dhcp, Qt5 on eglfs with TI-gfx). Are you advising me to use another bulid tool like Yocto or Buildroot could do ?
  • [20:59:15] <wmat> why not just use one of the console images from rcn?
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  • [21:00:25] <wmat> I use BBB-eMMC-flasher-debian-7.8-console-armhf-2015-03-01-2gb.img
  • [21:00:50] <wmat> that's on old A4a and A4 boards
  • [21:01:21] <KaaK> how can figure out what DT "compatible" string I need to use to for a particular I2C device?
  • [21:01:47] <KaaK> specifically at 24c256 eeprom. But more generally, how I can I formulate this in general?
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  • [21:04:21] <erakis_> @wmat : rcn ?
  • [21:04:25] <wmat> erakis_: you might want to try asking in the #buildroot channel as well
  • [21:04:33] <wmat> erakis_: robert nelson's images
  • [21:05:06] <wmat> erakis_: http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian
  • [21:05:59] <wmat> erakis_: specifically, I use the BBB (all Revs) eMMC Flasher console image: http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#BBB_.28All_Revs.29_eMMC_Flashers
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  • [21:06:37] <wmat> erakis_: unless you really need to use buildroot
  • [21:06:53] <erakis_> @wmat : We are using a builder because we want a lightweight and customized image. Also we will need to use this image for production on many units. The existing image don't have Qt5 properly installed with hardware acceleration, and has to many package for our needs...
  • [21:07:23] <erakis_> @wmat : I tried asking to buildroot channel, but I get no response :(
  • [21:07:25] <wmat> erakis_: right, but to test the hdmi out is working, just use another image
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  • [21:08:09] <wmat> erakis_: don't use the flasher image, but rather try a microSD image and boot from that just to see if HDMI works with it
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  • [21:08:40] <wmat> erakis_: if it does, the problem is with buildroot
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  • [21:09:33] <erakis_> @wmat : I already tried with another image and the HDMI is well working,.
  • [21:11:21] <wmat> erakis_: ah, ok, well I'm not sure what else to tell you other than to keep poling the buildroot beaglebone people
  • [21:11:48] <wmat> i have to run, dinner time
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  • [21:13:34] <erakis_> @wmat : This is what I've done, I use an image booting from a microSD and I got the hdmi output. So the hdmi is working, this is not the problem :(
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  • [21:14:55] <erakis_> @wmat : Do you advise me another bulid tool more up-to-date or more maintained ?
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  • [23:04:08] <wmat> erakis_: Yocto perhaps using core-image-minimal
  • [23:04:26] <wmat> erakis_: https://www.yoctoproject.org/downloads/bsps/daisy16/beaglebone
  • [23:04:41] <ds2> wmat: miss the TV hauling?
  • [23:06:23] <wmat> ds2: heh, nope
  • [23:06:33] <wmat> ds2: were there any good giveaways this year?
  • [23:07:15] <ds2> wmat: I wasn't impressed :D
  • [23:07:37] <ds2> rather have k9's then fishes
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  • [23:17:45] <wmat> heh
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