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  • [00:04:11] <cityLights> ok, most of the miracast is in place , I am now installing gstreamer 1.0
  • [00:04:43] <cityLights> and then will try to connect from my cellular to the BBB which is hooked to the tv
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  • [02:34:06] <twoten> I think I may have bricked my bb black - anyone have any experience booting into a black screen?
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  • [02:37:02] <endrift> twoten: do you have an FTDI serial adapter?
  • [02:38:02] <bwarff> do you have a clean sd card image to emergency boot from ?
  • [02:38:45] <twoten> well I put debian on the emmc - I'm dl'ing the angstrom emmc flashing image now
  • [02:39:43] <bwarff> avoid angstrom
  • [02:39:44] <twoten> I get a login prompt that lasts for a couple seconds then a black screen
  • [02:39:47] <bwarff> just get the debian sd image
  • [02:40:09] <twoten> I try ctrl-alt-f4 and can't switch to a tty
  • [02:40:11] <bwarff> thats the X11 starting up normally
  • [02:40:34] <twoten> I have the debian sd image - it's on the emmc
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  • [02:41:08] <bwarff> sligthly different
  • [02:41:16] <bwarff> that image re-flashes the emmc
  • [02:41:21] <bwarff> you can also get one that runs off the sd
  • [02:41:31] * zmatt generally prefers bone-debian-7.8-console images... not as ancient as debian stable, and console version doesn't have so much crap on it
  • [02:41:34] <twoten> yeah but I don't get a cursor and it stays black forever
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  • [02:41:54] <bwarff> zmatt: yah
  • [02:41:55] <twoten> I have the one on the sd too - same thing
  • [02:42:03] <bwarff> running x on the little things is a waste of resources
  • [02:42:21] <zmatt> especially since I don't actually use the HDMI, just ssh
  • [02:42:23] <bwarff> however it does sound like your x or your hdmi is pooped
  • [02:42:39] <twoten> how can I stop the jump into X at boot?
  • [02:42:54] <bwarff> yes same, i occaisionally use the hdmi if i cant use the usb ssh to configure it
  • [02:43:28] <zmatt> bwarff: oh I only use usb for flashing the thing (BBBlfs), then just connect it to the network
  • [02:44:03] <twoten> it shows up on my host fs and the web server is at 192.168.7.2
  • [02:44:07] <bwarff> twoten: plenty of walkthroughs or disabling x, provided you have ssh access
  • [02:44:15] <bwarff> ssh that ip
  • [02:44:21] <twoten> I do have ssh
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  • [02:44:32] <bwarff> sounds like your usb network is fine
  • [02:44:39] <bwarff> and sounds like you havent bricked your bbb
  • [02:44:57] <zmatt> if you can ssh, it obviously ain't bricked
  • [02:45:08] <zmatt> (have you ever seen a brick with ssh support? ;)
  • [02:46:18] <twoten> okay I'm in on ssh
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  • [02:46:39] <twoten> so I just have to fix my hdmi
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  • [02:48:28] <twoten> I reset the hdmi cable and now I'm in on a root terminal
  • [02:48:56] <twoten> startx doesn't work: command not found
  • [02:49:03] <twoten> how do I start x?
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  • [02:50:10] <veremit> ./etc/init.d/<your display manager> restart
  • [02:50:39] <twoten> gdm? what's for openbox?
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  • [02:51:18] <veremit> lightdm is fairly popular
  • [02:51:35] <veremit> ls /etc/init.d/*dm
  • [02:51:49] <twoten> so it is
  • [02:52:13] <zmatt> why are we still using X anyway? what's the ETA on wayland? :P
  • [02:52:25] <zmatt> (apparently some embedded linux distros already use it as default)
  • [02:52:27] <twoten> screen goes blank and stays that way
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  • [02:53:14] <bwarff> anything in syslog
  • [02:53:43] <twoten> resetting
  • [02:54:54] <veremit> cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log
  • [02:54:59] <veremit> or whicever it is
  • [02:56:00] <twoten> the xorg logs are zero bytes
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  • [02:56:52] <veremit> ./var/log/lightdm/ ?
  • [02:58:21] <twoten> aha - no space left on device - that's why I'm messing with images, the emmc has zero bytes free
  • [02:58:44] <twoten> that's from x-0-greeter.log
  • [02:58:45] <zmatt> yet another reason to use the console image and just install the things you need ;)
  • [02:59:08] <twoten> I'm going to a hackathon! I need a sexy gui
  • [02:59:34] <zmatt> you can still install one, but I'm pretty sure a default install has a lot of crap you don't need
  • [03:00:04] <twoten> hmm, so install a console image then use apt-get to build up from there?
  • [03:00:27] <bwarff> move the crap to an sd card
  • [03:00:34] <zmatt> besides, if you're going to a hackathon you can't really show up with something as ancient as debian stable right? ("why won't this compile? oh right, stone-age make and stone-age gcc")
  • [03:00:42] <twoten> sensibly, with temperence
  • [03:00:42] <bwarff> surely you dont have 4gb of shit installed
  • [03:01:16] <bwarff> you should be using a custom handrolled yocto image with bleeding edge sources for maximum cred
  • [03:01:17] <twoten> not me, I just installed ninja-ide and it choked
  • [03:01:39] <twoten> where do I get one?
  • [03:01:44] <zmatt> hehe
  • [03:02:30] <zmatt> I'd personally go for (and in fact went for) a bone-debian-7.8-console image, upgrade it to sid, then install the stuff you want
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  • [03:03:15] <twoten> okay, so boot off the microsd, then use the emmc for /opt?
  • [03:03:41] <zmatt> and of course the big decision you need to make... kernel 3.8.13 versus 3.19.0
  • [03:03:59] <veremit> zmatt .. no question .. $.
  • [03:04:00] <zmatt> I just use eMMC
  • [03:04:01] <veremit> 4*
  • [03:04:44] <veremit> you should be able to install a basic lxde environment
  • [03:04:47] <twoten> I just want to write stuff in qt and have the bbb run it
  • [03:05:09] <veremit> qt is a bit heavy, no ?
  • [03:05:42] <veremit> although I guess most of it is gtk
  • [03:05:43] <twoten> qt on my host laptop, cross compile then run in bbb - geany for touch ups
  • [03:06:09] <zmatt> ah at least you have the sense to cross-compile
  • [03:06:35] <veremit> phew!
  • [03:06:41] <twoten> I gave up my life as a rodeo clown for embedded mcu's
  • [03:07:06] <bwarff> strictly speaking its not an mcu
  • [03:07:20] <zmatt> (I sometimes still forget that... "why the fuck is this taking so long? oh wait, it's a cortex-a8..." )
  • [03:08:16] <zmatt> bwarff: not sure how to unambiguously draw the line between a big mcu and a small soc though
  • [03:08:25] <bwarff> mmu
  • [03:08:32] <zmatt> hmmm
  • [03:08:37] <twoten> yeah, no pre-emptive kernel, but I'm not good enough on RTOS to use that on the weekend
  • [03:08:55] <bwarff> techincally the onspecific difference is the mmu that turns multiple memory modules into flat addressable one
  • [03:09:04] <zmatt> twoten: baremetal programming is fun too
  • [03:09:09] <bwarff> versus the mcu just having the single chunk of memory
  • [03:09:28] <twoten> I like assembly myself, but tools are hard to find
  • [03:10:00] <bwarff> the cortex m7 is a dual channel, 1ghz, mcu .. faster than many of the cpu's but still an mcu.
  • [03:10:51] <zmatt> twoten: no need for much asm per se, apart from a really tiny bit of init and some occasional inline asm
  • [03:11:28] <zmatt> twoten: although sometimes I do feel the temptation when I see the idiotic crap compilers sometimes produce :P
  • [03:11:30] <twoten> I used to work with an HC11 and wrote tons of assembly code, not any more
  • [03:11:44] <zmatt> arm assembly is pleasant enough
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  • [03:12:12] <zmatt> I did write a fairly big chunk of it for another project (a Forth kernel)
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  • [03:12:36] <twoten> I'll chop away any junk I can find on the emmc and hopefully X11 will come back up
  • [03:13:31] <zmatt> twoten: just ponder for a moment how _big_ 4 GB is, and how bizarre it is to be able to manage to fill it up when not storing large media files
  • [03:13:46] <twoten> my emmc is only 2 gig
  • [03:13:54] <zmatt> 2 GB, same thing (mine is too)
  • [03:14:01] <bwarff> the debian image nearly fills the 2gig emmc
  • [03:14:09] <bwarff> is about 1.7gb from memory
  • [03:14:30] <twoten> yeah I know, I once wrote a predictive ai system in 20K of asm
  • [03:14:30] <bwarff> my old 2gig beagles run from sd cards now, i use the emmc for fast storage
  • [03:15:15] <zmatt> twoten: my baremetal code also runs from internal SRAM, I never bother initializing the DDR
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  • [03:15:48] <zmatt> (most of it is on a dm814x though, which have really a lot of internal SRAM)
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  • [03:16:07] <zmatt> btw, the bone-debian-7.8-console image is only 50 MB
  • [03:16:09] <zmatt> ;)
  • [03:16:22] <twoten> I don't want to look like a weenie with an arduino or raspi
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  • [03:17:07] <zmatt> the only thing potentially interesting about the rpi is that it apparently boots up in secure mode, so you can play with TrustZone and setup your own secure monitor
  • [03:17:26] <twoten> so if I just plain boot I'm on the emmc and if I hold reset and boot I'm on the microsd - is that correct?
  • [03:17:34] <zmatt> no
  • [03:17:43] <zmatt> if you hold reset, you'll hold it in reset (surprise!)
  • [03:18:03] <twoten> hold reset and power on
  • [03:18:10] <zmatt> if however you hold the sd-boot button at power-on, it'll boot to sd
  • [03:18:38] <twoten> right - I'll get the console image 50meg sounds great
  • [03:19:30] <zmatt> specifically, by default the boot order is: eMMC, SD, uart, usb
  • [03:19:51] <zmatt> with button S2 held, the boot order is: spi, SD, usb, uart
  • [03:20:07] <twoten> ah sweet
  • [03:20:33] <zmatt> so holding S2 without an SD card inserted is also used to boot it into usb mode (e.g. for BBBlfs)
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  • [03:22:12] <zmatt> and if you hold S2 and also pull sysboot0 (lcd_data0) up to 3.3V it'll try to boot via ethernet (bootp + tftp)
  • [03:22:58] <zmatt> I'm using that a lot lately for some baremetal tests, saves me from having to flash anything
  • [03:23:31] <twoten> how long have you worked with bbb?
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  • [03:25:02] <zmatt> not long, but subarctic (am335x) is architectually closely related to (but much simpler than) centaurus (dm814x / am387x) where I have a few years of experience
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  • [03:26:05] <twoten> aha, where do I get the debian console image?
  • [03:26:39] <zmatt> https://rcn-ee.net/rootfs/bb.org/testing/*/console/bone-debian-*-console-armhf-*-2gb.img.xz
  • [03:26:53] <zmatt> replace * by highest number available
  • [03:28:03] <twoten> ! hey isn't rc-ee a local expert here?
  • [03:28:05] <zmatt> note that if you use BBBlfs to flash it (which is the easiest way), beware that the script is quite broken and e.g. assumes the main partition is partition 2
  • [03:28:18] <zmatt> while it's partition 1 for these images
  • [03:29:14] <zmatt> so either just use the usb_flasher of BBBlfs to make your bbb appear as an "usb stick" and flash the image manually, or if you use the script use fdisk to fix the partition table afterwards
  • [03:29:16] <twoten> ah yes - I got a page at elinux.org with lots of rcn-ee images
  • [03:31:17] <zmatt> also, if you choose to upgrade from debian wheezy to jessie or later, the upgrade will hang after setting up udev -- open a separate terminal and perform (as root): systemctl daemon-reexec .. the apt-get upgrade will then continue normally
  • [03:32:11] <twoten> good to know - well I'm back on hdmi having booted off an sd image - thanks very much
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  • [03:32:56] <zmatt> also, even though the console image is minimalistic, it still contains some irrelevant crap: bbx15-ducati-firmware-installer tiomapconf mt7601u-modules-*
  • [03:33:11] <zmatt> and of course nano (real men use vim)
  • [03:33:32] <zmatt> (or emacs I guess, if you're that sort of person)
  • [03:33:46] <twoten> I like kate and geany, and qt!
  • [03:34:22] <zmatt> well, nobody's perfect
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  • [03:35:24] <twoten> some poor saps think vis studio and basic are all that you need
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  • [03:38:28] <zmatt> as for kernel 3.8.13 vs 3.19.0 ... use 3.8.13 if you need any of the stuff that's not in mainline yet, or 3.19.0 otherwise ;)
  • [03:42:41] <tamarin> Any replicape users out there? I kind of want one, but haven't found anyone using one.
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  • [03:45:56] <bwarff_> whats replicape do
  • [03:46:24] <zmatt> makes endless copies of itself obviously
  • [03:46:46] <zmatt> soon the whole world will be covered in replicapes
  • [03:47:37] <tamarin> bwarff_: 3D Printer/CNC controller.
  • [03:48:10] <mrpackethead> if you make one, you've made 1000
  • [03:48:12] <bwarff_> aah, so another mcu-with-motor-drivers
  • [03:49:19] <tamarin> Yep. Related other works are Smootheboard (Cortex MCU), RAMBo (Arduino), etc.
  • [03:52:11] <zmatt> an mcu for the motor drivers? are the three PWMSS instances on the am335x inadequate? :P
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  • [03:54:04] <tamarin> zmatt: Yes. :)
  • [03:54:14] <zmatt> ok
  • [03:54:15] <tamarin> 6 pwm is ideal. 5 is manageable.
  • [03:54:26] <zmatt> each PWMSS can produce up to 3 pwm signals
  • [03:54:26] <tamarin> There needs to be at least 2 ADC.
  • [03:54:56] <zmatt> (and if your needs are simple each timer with an external pin can also produce a PWM signal)
  • [03:56:17] <tamarin> Hm. The "fake PWM" would be rubbish.
  • [03:56:30] <zmatt> the am335x has 7 adc channels pinned out on the BBB
  • [03:56:33] <tamarin> And the replicape doesn't feature an additional MCU. Is that what we're talking about?
  • [03:56:52] <tamarin> Yea - the replicape is a cape on the beaglebone black.
  • [03:57:12] <zmatt> ah, since bwarff mcu-with-motor-drivers and you said yep
  • [03:57:33] <tamarin> And I misread what you said earlier. The PWM on the am335x is just fine. For some reason, I read that as a swizzler and assumed something from another project. :)
  • [03:57:56] <zmatt> actually replicape apparently uses PRU to control the steppers
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  • [03:59:00] <tamarin> Most other projects are just MCU based - Cortex or Arduino. That's what I meant by "yep" to "mcu-with-motor-drivers".
  • [03:59:30] <zmatt> an arduino.... -.-
  • [03:59:37] <tamarin> The SeeMeCNC Delta printers use replicape. Not sure if anything else "off the shelf" does.
  • [04:00:13] <tamarin> zmatt: Yea, Arduinos are the oldest printer boards. RAMPS.
  • [04:00:52] <zmatt> I mean, there's so much fancy stuff on the am335x, yet I've even seen people here connect use an external 555-timer connected to gpio
  • [04:01:14] <tamarin> Overengineering is fun? :)
  • [04:01:34] <zmatt> part of the problem is of course that linux gets in the way of easily playing with the hardware
  • [04:02:13] <tamarin> Writing to files is not a fun way to use gpio.
  • [04:02:28] <zmatt> I've been thinking it would be really useful to have a generic peripheral driver that just lets you mmap the registers (like /dev/mem), receive interrupts, and setup dma if applicable
  • [04:02:39] <zmatt> you can just mmap the gpio peripherals via /dev/mem
  • [04:03:03] <zmatt> then reading all 32 pins of one gpio bank is suddenly 1 instruction
  • [04:03:08] <zmatt> :)
  • [04:03:17] <tamarin> oh, neat trick
  • [04:03:35] <zmatt> (1 instruction that will still take quite a few cycles, but still)
  • [04:03:50] <tamarin> I've been semi-stuck in libmraa lately, so it doesn't really matter... but still... the thought of files is icky.
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  • [04:04:11] <zmatt> sysfs is for config, not for any substantial data transfer
  • [04:04:19] <tamarin> Exactly.
  • [04:04:20] <zmatt> using it for gpio for anything but simple tests is silliness
  • [04:06:26] <zmatt> if you need to use a peripheral, just mmap it, as long as you don't need irqs/dma and the peripheral isn't in use by the kernel (or such use doesn't conflict, for example gpio reads are a non-issue)
  • [04:06:56] <zmatt> but for example, configuring the direction (input/output) should still go via the kernel to avoid getting into a fight
  • [04:07:49] <zmatt> but getting irqs into userspace shouldn't be that hard either
  • [04:08:29] <zmatt> and would greatly extend the possibilities of directly working with the peripherals without the complication of writing a kernel driver
  • [04:09:09] <zmatt> (it would also make the adc suddenly useful)
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  • [05:10:12] <embed> Good morning all, Am working in Linux-3.8.13 for beagleboneblack. There is no support for power management. I have applied so many patches but still not working. Is there any update or successful patched for PM in Linux-3.8.?
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  • [09:00:43] <embed> Can any one support me ?
  • [09:02:17] <Mikaela> no, but if you tell what the issue is, maybe
  • [09:04:26] <cityoflights2> he needs help with power save
  • [09:04:49] <cityoflights2> I didn't get this to work either
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  • [10:18:02] <fling> Is it possible to use bbb as a floppy drive controller?
  • [10:18:18] <fling> I want to play music off my floppies ;P
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  • [10:32:23] <fling> I want to have similar setup -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcllhPVpL0U
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  • [11:38:51] <Oxana> Hello! I would like to send request to your sales department! Pleas, tell me email
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  • [11:45:12] <_av500_> ?
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  • [11:51:27] <woglinde> av500 its nearly friday
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  • [12:02:09] <embed> <Mikaela>Am working in Linux-3.8.13 for beagleboneblack. There is no support for power management. I have applied so many patches but still not working. Is there any update or successful patched for PM in Linux-3.8.?
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  • [15:11:32] <ni694458> hi
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  • [15:12:10] <ni694458> type is too small
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  • [15:53:31] <Guest91537> I connected my BBB with logitech c270 webcam and executed a simple program to display captured image. the error is "vidioc_querymenu invalid argument" and "timeout"
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  • [15:58:39] <Guest91537> hello
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  • [16:04:05] <Guest91537> hii
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  • [16:05:17] <Guest91537> anyone online?
  • [16:06:22] <rcn-ee> Guest91537, ask the beagleboard group mailing list.
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  • [16:14:14] <Guest91537> heloooo
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  • [16:26:50] <Guest91537> hello
  • [16:27:02] <Guest91537> anyone online?
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  • [16:35:43] <woglinde> sometimes
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  • [16:47:44] <Guest91537> ok thanks all. i lost my patient :(
  • [16:49:05] <rcn-ee> Guest91537, see my previous...
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  • [17:27:21] <rcn-ee> users, anyone happen to have an unmodified rev C, need a pastebin.com of u-boot if you have a chance, just starting to dl/flash one of mine..
  • [17:27:39] <rcn-ee> (may 2014 release u-boot)
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  • [17:31:58] <stt_michael> rcn-ee, you mean its not already in revision control somewhere?! :p
  • [17:33:20] <rcn-ee> oh it is.. on the server, just got to download (150kb/s) and then flash microSD, then fflash eMMC.. so it'll take another hour for me. ;)
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  • [17:34:06] <zmatt> why flash microSD first?
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  • [17:35:52] <zmatt> (BBBlfs is not all that great from a technical point of view, but it does save time) ... of course with your download speed (I feel for you) it'll be a while before downloading BBBlfs pays off :/
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  • [17:36:53] <rcn-ee> with the speed of the usb interface, it's the same length as flashing the microSD (5 minutes) and flashing the eMMC (5 minutes)
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  • [17:39:09] <zmatt> are you sure? I always got the impression eMMC was the bottleneck, not USB
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  • [17:39:32] <zmatt> hmm, you may be right
  • [17:39:47] <zmatt> if the image is > 2 GB
  • [17:39:49] <rcn-ee> BBBlfs is just easier for end users. ;)
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  • [17:41:12] <zmatt> I'm working on something Ethernet-based, but I've been sick all week so it's not been going fast
  • [17:41:39] <zmatt> (also, I'm not sure what the people who wrote the the eMMC standard were on, but wtf...)
  • [17:41:57] <vvu> zmatt: what exactly ethernet-based ?
  • [17:42:08] <vvu> i am always trying to improve bbblfs
  • [17:43:43] <rcn-ee> vvu, have you figured how to replace musb ip on the am335x? ;)
  • [17:44:12] <zmatt> vvu: all steps actually.... a rescue-loader which allows examining and reflashing a BBB (with authentication) via ethernet, and for dev purposes I'd also serve it via ethernet boot (bootp/tftp) for convenience probably
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  • [17:47:23] <zmatt> I've already done baremetal IPv6 on a close cousin of the am335x in the past, so I've been focussing on the eMMC part
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  • [17:49:39] <zmatt> it's terrible what years of backwards compatibility can do to a standard :(
  • [17:49:55] <rcn-ee> that's why they dropped spi on eMMC. ;)
  • [17:50:02] <rcn-ee> the only good thing...
  • [17:50:12] <rcn-ee> (the only good thing that was availble)
  • [17:50:38] <zmatt> except spi would get you only a tiny fraction of the performance
  • [17:51:06] <zmatt> and the messy parts of the MMC link-layer protocol are handled in hardware anyway
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  • [17:52:25] <zmatt> although the mmc/sd peripheral also had some undocumented surprises
  • [17:53:17] <zmatt> (peripherals which actually change their behaviour depending on whether interrupts are enabled.. how fun)
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  • [18:03:55] <zmatt> I already realized that the ROM bootloader is probably causing unnecessary data loss on soft resets :/
  • [18:03:59] <zmatt> *also realized
  • [18:04:28] <nerdboy> yay
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  • [18:05:18] <zmatt> since rather than recovering the state of the (already-initialized) eMMC it issues an eMMC reset, which means any internal programming operation is aborted and any cached writes are discarded
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  • [18:06:49] <zmatt> (essentially equivalent to power loss)
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  • [18:18:19] <bbb-user> Hi
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  • [18:19:32] <bbb-user> I'd like to use music frome the commercials of BeagleBone Black. Where should I ask about premission?
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  • [18:25:03] <_av500_> bbb-user: email jason
  • [18:25:06] <_av500_> jkridner|work: ^^^
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  • [19:15:06] <igorTavares> hello folks
  • [19:15:48] <igorTavares> anyone knows how improve the device tree load time at the BBB?
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  • [19:17:30] <igorTavares> My BBB was taking 14 seconds to configure the peripherals. I want do this faster!
  • [19:18:00] <rcn-ee> Well, skip the overlay, set it in your dts and add the pinmux to u-boot..
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  • [19:19:13] <igorTavares> oh thanks
  • [19:19:16] <igorTavares> I've jumped the overlay, I'm setting right on the device tree.
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  • [19:20:14] <igorTavares> but how do I add the pinmux in uboot?
  • [19:21:03] <geekswine_> trying to use ccsv6 for BBB..
  • [19:21:15] <rcn-ee> igorTavares, see: http://git.denx.de/?p=u-boot.git;a=blob;f=board/ti/am335x/mux.c;hb=HEAD
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  • [19:21:36] <geekswine_> but when try to install using "./ccsv*** " nothing happens..any help ??
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  • [19:23:22] <igorTavares> thanks Robert Nelson!
  • [19:25:06] <zmatt> geekswine_: you did make the installer executable after downloading? also, if using a 64-bit linux (like everyone does since the last 32-bit intel processor is now I think a decade old) you'll need to install a fuckton of 32-bit libraries since ccs is still 32-bit
  • [19:25:32] <zmatt> see also http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Linux_Host_Support_CCSv6
  • [19:26:07] <geekswine_> i have gone through this..
  • [19:26:25] <geekswine_> do we need to run another command to make it executable ??
  • [19:26:52] <zmatt> did you get an error?
  • [19:27:08] <geekswine_> noo..it just doesn't do anything..
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  • [19:28:56] <zmatt> you checked the wiki page for any relevant instructions for whichever distro you're using?
  • [19:29:43] <geekswine_> let me see once again if am i missing anything..
  • [19:30:17] <zmatt> (note that in general, be aware that using CCS requires a certain amount of masochism, as it *will* involve pain :P )
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  • [19:31:46] <geekswine_> yaa...its very painfull..:P
  • [19:32:48] <geekswine_> initially tried with eclipse but to install some additional software for starterware its was taking a hell lot of time...:(
  • [19:33:22] <zmatt> note btw that starterware is a steaming pile of pig manure
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  • [19:34:22] <zmatt> so far the code I've examined of it seems to work mostly by accident if at all
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  • [19:34:52] <zmatt> the uart echo example compiles to a deadloop if optimization is enabled
  • [19:34:54] <geekswine_> haha..
  • [19:35:38] <geekswine_> actually need to write librararies so that it access board without OS..
  • [19:36:14] <igorTavares> Robert Nelson, to change the peripheral configured by direct by uboot I'll have to recompile it?
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  • [19:36:24] <zmatt> you can actually find some examples by me if you search the e2e forum
  • [19:37:07] <zmatt> I still intend to put some on github when I find the time :/
  • [19:37:20] <geekswine_> can u provide me the link of any example ?? it will be very helpful for me ...
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  • [19:37:48] <geekswine_> will pace my work somewhat faster :)
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  • [19:39:24] <rcn-ee> igorTavares, correct
  • [19:40:11] <rcn-ee> igorTavares, btw, once you set the correct pinmux's in u-boot, you can also remove those setting in kernel land, as they should use the u-boot setting and should speed things up even more..
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  • [19:41:42] <zmatt> geekswine_: http://e2e.ti.com/support/arm/sitara_arm/f/791/p/389752/1388187
  • [19:42:19] <zmatt> geekswine_: it's a fairly old snapshot of
  • [19:42:36] <zmatt> my baremetal code though, I should really cobble together a bit more up-to-date version
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  • [19:43:44] <geekswine_> thanx..:) i'll have a look at it..
  • [19:45:29] <zmatt> the toolchain link in that post is also old, the latest linaro gcc binaries are http://releases.linaro.org/14.11/components/toolchain/binaries
  • [19:47:34] <zmatt> and more recent versions of some of my headers are actually in this project -> https://github.com/dutchanddutch/jbang
  • [19:47:57] <geekswine_> and the .bin file got executed..:D
  • [19:48:32] <zmatt> except to run under linux, instead of declaring a peripheral e.g. "extern Prcm prcm;" and assigning its address in the linker script I declare it "extern Prcm &prcm;" and initialize it with some utility code that mmap()s /dev/mem
  • [19:49:28] <zmatt> (I'll warn beforehand that my code style is ... an acquired taste probably ;)
  • [19:49:56] <geekswine_> haha..:P
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  • [19:50:26] <geekswine_> why just we don't use starterware header file directly to write user friendly programs ?
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  • [19:51:34] <zmatt> because starterware's headers are typically already mutually exclusive with readable code
  • [19:52:57] <geekswine_> yeah i have observed that...
  • [19:54:45] <zmatt> that's the main reason for me to use C++ .. syntax sugar ;)
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  • [19:56:01] <zmatt> prcm.mod_mmc1.enable();
  • [19:56:01] <zmatt> wait_until( prcm.mod_mmc1.ready() );
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  • [19:56:42] <zmatt> instead of long lines screaming at you with long all-uppercase constants
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  • [19:58:34] <geekswine_> its easy to understand too..:)
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  • [20:01:28] <zmatt> of course as usual with C++, to make the "end user" code look nice sometimes you have to commit unspeakable horrors in the headers that make the magic happen ;P
  • [20:02:25] <geekswine_> hahaha...
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  • [20:03:27] <zmatt> to be honest, C and C++ suck for baremetal programming... they're simply not expressive enough to allow you to convey the semantics of memory-mapped I/O to the compiler, or exert sufficient control over the representation of structures, so I often end up in fights with the compiler
  • [20:03:34] <zmatt> but I don't know any better alternative
  • [20:04:12] <geekswine_> haha..so who wins finally ??
  • [20:04:34] <zmatt> you win some, you lose some :P
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  • [20:05:30] <zmatt> my approach to things also changes over time, as I discover new ways to solve something, or new problems with the way I used to do things
  • [20:05:31] <geekswine_> yeah..that's the nature's law ..:D
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  • [20:05:54] <zmatt> hmm, I should probably fix some food...
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  • [20:11:16] <igorTavares> Robert Nelso I could understand! Thanks, helped me a lot!
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  • [23:49:25] <GenTooMan> WHATS WRONG WITH ALL CAPS zmatt? I always thought it was the result of someone being lazy.
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