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  • [01:38:42] <tamarin> What is this channel?
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  • [01:39:34] <tamarin> Any replicape users? I'm wondering how it stacks up against Marlin/RAMBo.
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  • [01:49:01] <agmlego> tamarin: I believe jkridner has been working withthe SeeMeCNC guys to get better support and stuff going there.
  • [01:49:32] <tamarin> Oh, yea, their little deltas are neat.
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  • [01:50:01] <agmlego> Not that little, but yes.,
  • [01:50:09] <tamarin> ... not that little. :)
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  • [06:56:50] <giya> IN SOCKET COMMUNICATION IS ADK is needed for bbb
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  • [07:12:56] <rtcg72a> Hi, I am trying to use the Serial UARTS on the BeagleBone Black for my application. I have enabled them through the uEnv.txt file through "capemgr.enable_partno". However, I noticed that I can't access the RTS pin.
  • [07:13:17] <rtcg72a> Running the command "sudo cat /proc/tty/driver/OMAP-SERIAL" gives me: this: uart:OMAP UART4 mmio:0x481A8000 irq:45 tx:0 rx:0 CTS|DSR
  • [07:14:01] <rtcg72a> How can I access the RTS pin on the board? I am using Debian by the way
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  • [07:18:06] <bwarff> echo BB-UART1 > /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots
  • [07:18:13] <bwarff> to turn on UART1 ?
  • [07:18:18] <bwarff> then etc etc for the rest
  • [07:21:39] <rtcg72a> I tried that earlier, but I get "bash: /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots: Permission denied" even as root
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  • [07:24:14] <rtcg72a> The UARTS are already enabled, but it seems like I am not getting the pins like RTS. I read about the Device Tree and tried things like "sudo echo ttyO4_armhf.com > /sys/devices/bone_capemgr*/slots" (using a file I downloaded while trying to follow a guide), but I keep getting that error
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  • [07:32:39] <bwarff> is this the stock debian or a custom image ?
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  • [07:33:28] <rtcg72a> I am running a stock debian image
  • [07:36:26] <rtcg72a> This is the dmesg log from the system: http://pastebin.com/cVze5t2Q
  • [07:42:52] <bwarff> illtry and compare with mine later.
  • [07:43:13] <bwarff> it just worked for me once i didthe slots echo as above
  • [07:43:21] <bwarff> fresh image, off it goes.
  • [07:49:10] <rtcg72a> I'll re-image the thing and see if it works
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  • [08:02:34] <tars01> how to run video using vnc server ?
  • [08:03:16] <tars01> do i need to download anything extra
  • [08:04:58] <tbr> what do you mean by 'running video'?
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  • [08:10:16] <tars01> i have a video on my sdcard , i want play it
  • [08:10:30] <tars01> its in mp4 format
  • [08:11:21] <tbr> you'll need a video player for that. Like VLC or gstreamer or avplay
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  • [08:32:37] <kunalg> Hi, I am new here. I am interested to participate in Beagleboard development.
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  • [09:19:43] <Agol> Hi friends..
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  • [09:22:05] <Agol> I'm trying to update Angstrom linux by using opkg update. but it tries to connect to angstrom-distribution.org/feeds
  • [09:22:58] <Agol> angstrom-distribution.org/feeds doesn't exist and it shod connect to feeds.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds
  • [09:23:28] <Agol> help me pleasee..
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  • [09:30:48] <Agol> anybody's there?
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  • [09:32:36] <tbr> Agol: I'd say just reinstall with latest image
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  • [09:40:45] <Agol> <tbr> thanks.. where can i find latest image of linux angstrom?
  • [09:41:21] <tbr> not sure, but you could always build one with narcissus, custom to your needs
  • [09:44:15] <bwarff> id move to the new debian image unless you had reasons not to
  • [09:44:58] <tbr> yeah, that's the other option
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  • [09:50:10] <_av500_> Agol: do you really need angstrom?
  • [09:50:16] <_av500_> if not, install the latest debian
  • [09:56:04] <Agol> i don't really know
  • [09:56:42] <Agol> angstrom is awful..is it possible to install ubuntu or debian on beagleboard?
  • [09:56:50] <bwarff> angstrom is a bit of an orphan, debian is a far better thing to code against.
  • [09:57:10] <bwarff> beagleboard or beaglebone
  • [09:57:20] <tbr> there are official debian images
  • [09:57:40] <bwarff> afaik they have abandoned angstrom for the bone, debian is the new default
  • [09:57:41] <_av500_> there is also debain
  • [09:57:47] <_av500_> and debian
  • [09:57:52] <_av500_> did I mention debian?
  • [09:58:44] <vvu> _av500_: what about that debian ?
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  • [09:58:57] <_av500_> jo
  • [09:59:15] <Agol> in fact i'm using BeagleBoard-xM Board based on TI DM3730
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  • [10:02:02] <vvu> _av500_: do we still keep android under angstrom projec ? seen on the ML a post, somebody asked about it
  • [10:02:06] <vvu> if we still ditch angstrom
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  • [10:12:31] <_av500_> vvu: I dont push for that
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  • [10:20:58] <bwarff> agol: the beagleboard-xm is a bit of an orpahn itself
  • [10:21:11] <bwarff> i think its only got the old angstrom image
  • [10:21:29] <bwarff> i got one of those from work, however havent dont much with it due to lack of io
  • [10:24:07] <Agol> <bwarff>you mean , that it isn't possible to install ubuntu on beagleboard-xm? :(
  • [10:24:13] <Agol> or debian
  • [10:24:15] <Agol> ?
  • [10:24:43] <bwarff> it says it has ubunutu, my mistake, i have the basic beagleboard
  • [10:24:56] <bwarff> i mostly use beaglebone so i get confused on the other ones sometimes
  • [10:25:22] <Agol> oh...thanks
  • [10:25:43] <Agol> i found this blog useful: http://www.brianhensley.net/2013/01/beagleboard-xm-how-to-install-ubuntu.html
  • [10:26:56] <bwarff> http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu
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  • [10:27:37] <Agol> <bwarff> thanks alot..
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  • [10:29:12] <idleguy> hi
  • [10:29:14] <bwarff> xm looks ok, it actually has io, the basic one i have only has single usb
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  • [10:38:04] <gib> Is there anyone with DTO and LCD driver experience for the beaglebone black on Debian?
  • [10:38:05] <gib> I'll pay for your assistance
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  • [11:43:27] <giya> is the socket communication is possible in Beaglebone black in android
  • [11:43:54] <giya> and android device with static ip address
  • [11:44:05] <cityoflights2> sure
  • [11:44:21] <cityoflights2> sockets are the same for all OS
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  • [11:44:29] <giya> without using ADK is it possible
  • [11:45:25] <cityoflights2> don't know what ADK is , but as long as yu can ping , you should be able to send/receive from cokets
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  • [11:47:40] <giya> is it possible for static ip address
  • [11:48:09] <cityoflights2> yes
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  • [11:48:53] <giya> any link for reference
  • [11:49:28] <giya> any resource or examples for reference
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  • [11:50:04] <ogra_> man nc
  • [11:50:23] <giya> ?
  • [11:51:12] <giya> any references available
  • [11:51:46] <bwarff> every programming language has a socket library
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  • [12:02:24] <giya> ok
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  • [12:43:22] <CleitonBueno> Hi
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  • [12:44:11] <CleitonBueno> I'm in problems to enable GPIO2(P9_22) in Beaglebone Black
  • [12:44:29] <CleitonBueno> IN AM3359AZCA ok worked....
  • [12:44:40] <CleitonBueno> IN AM3358BZCZ problem, not enable
  • [12:45:11] <cityoflights2> did anyone tried to run miracast from the bbb yet?
  • [12:45:12] <CleitonBueno> # ls -1 /sys/class/gpio/gpio2/
  • [12:45:13] <CleitonBueno> active_low direction edge power subsystem uevent value
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  • [12:45:36] <CleitonBueno> # cat /sys/kernel/debug/gpio GPIOs 0-31, gpio: gpio-2 (sysfs ) out hi
  • [12:46:09] <CleitonBueno> Distribution Linux generate with Yocto Project 1.7 , using kernel 3.14
  • [12:46:52] <CleitonBueno> apparently with kernel 3.8 function ok
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  • [12:49:05] <CleitonBueno> Generate device tree source with PinMux to Texas to GPIO (0x150), no to uart2 or spi0_clk
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  • [13:10:48] <desert_mirage> has anybody built an openpandora-like case for the pi2?
  • [13:10:56] <desert_mirage> oops wrong channel
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  • [13:24:55] <Reza> hello everyone
  • [13:25:04] <Reza> i have a question
  • [13:25:08] <Reza> any help?
  • [13:25:21] <woglinde> was that your question?
  • [13:25:29] <woglinde> answer is depends
  • [13:25:53] <Reza> which processor is used in beagleboard xm?
  • [13:26:13] <Reza> am3715 or dm3730?
  • [13:26:43] <Reza> ?
  • [13:26:56] <Reza> that is my question!
  • [13:27:19] <_av500_> dm3730
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  • [13:28:25] <Reza> below webpage shows that the processor is am37X
  • [13:28:29] <Reza> http://beagleboard.org/beagleboard-xm
  • [13:29:01] <Reza> i'm confused
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  • [13:29:20] <Reza> finally, DM3730 or AM3715?
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  • [13:36:43] <_av500_> its the same
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  • [13:37:02] <_av500_> TI made similar CPUs under different names
  • [13:37:27] <_av500_> in order to confuse people
  • [13:37:46] <_av500_> AM37xx == DM37xx
  • [13:37:57] <_av500_> == OMAP36xx
  • [13:38:54] <_av500_> xx might not always be the same
  • [13:39:09] <_av500_> looks like AM3715 = DM3730
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  • [13:49:35] <laborant> 0/
  • [13:49:46] <tbr> they probably renamed it to get rid of the omap name
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  • [13:50:20] <laborant> can someone help to newbie BBB user? :)
  • [13:50:31] <codehero1> I've got a custom board based on beaglebone and I'm trying to figure out what kernel version to use
  • [13:50:54] <codehero1> should I get the one from github github.com/beagleboard/linux ?
  • [13:51:08] <codehero1> or from kernel.org?
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  • [13:51:18] <tbr> codehero1: that will also depend on what you want to do with your board
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  • [13:51:52] <codehero1> USB, ethernet, UART ports, ADC
  • [13:51:56] <codehero1> and gpio hogging
  • [13:52:19] <codehero1> and SPI and i2c of course
  • [13:52:44] <laborant> Just got my BBB right out of Amazon box, but Win 7 x64 refusues to recognize it at all. I\ve got the x64 drivers from official biut no good with it.
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  • [13:54:25] <tbr> codehero1: sounds like going with kernel.org should work for you.
  • [13:55:04] <tbr> laborant: how long did you wait? did the pc recognize anything? any leds on?
  • [13:56:16] <codehero1> tbr: thanks; I guess my question would be why have the separate github beagleboard linux branch then?
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  • [13:56:36] <saleemahmad98> hello everyone! i want to use my pru in beaglebone but no idea from where to start. can any one help?
  • [13:56:39] <laborant> up to 10 mins, double restarted, USR0 & USR 2 are flashing
  • [13:56:54] <tbr> codehero1: because it wasn't always so nice
  • [13:58:38] <tbr> codehero1: for quite long many things worked best on the TI frankenkernel, also it had the convenient overlay mechanics with capemanager. now overlays are upstream at least
  • [13:58:59] <laborant> I've got HDMI to VGA cord, when I try to start BBB in direct, it shows me Linux logo for couole of secs and then just go off the black screen
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  • [13:59:33] <codehero1> tbr: OK makes sense.
  • [14:00:16] <tbr> laborant: sounds like the board is working then.
  • [14:00:49] <tbr> laborant: did you reboot after installing the drivers?
  • [14:01:01] <laborant> sure double time
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  • [14:01:44] <laborant> If BBB is Ok where I can find it in Windows Device Manager?
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  • [14:02:19] <tbr> laborant: does the device manager show any unknown devices? I think that was a yellow question mark.
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  • [14:02:59] <laborant> No It doesn't
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  • [14:04:24] <laborant> Oh, I ca see Beagle_Bone in Portables now, but it still not connected as USB drive in WE
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  • [14:07:44] <tbr> laborant: it should also show up as a removable USB drive
  • [14:08:22] <laborant> Let me check disk manager could be logical drive issue
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  • [14:31:15] <huyle> hi all
  • [14:31:46] <huyle> help me
  • [14:32:05] <_av500_> if only we knew how
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  • [14:33:10] <huyle> i need flash zImage for beagleboardblack
  • [14:33:26] <huyle> but i don't know
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  • [14:33:48] <huyle> Can i help me?
  • [14:34:37] <vvu> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=flash+beagleboneblack+kernel
  • [14:34:56] <_av500_> in most cases its not flash, but "copy"
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  • [14:41:09] <Catslab> rcn-ee: I posted patch set for pruss on ti 3.14 on my page http://www.aceware.ca/2015/03/enable-pruss-on-beagle-bone-black-with-ti-kernel-3-14/
  • [14:43:40] <jkridner> Catslab: what's new about the patch? Wasn't there already some PRU support in that kernel?
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  • [14:45:42] <Catslab> jkridner: pru support using remoteproc yes, but not anyone is willing to go that way
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  • [14:46:15] <jkridner> Catslab: beaglelogic.net and pruspeak both did remoteproc.
  • [14:47:17] <Catslab> jkridner: I now, but it's another learning curve to port to remote proc from an already exixting project using the old method
  • [14:47:36] <jkridner> Catslab: does your patch break remoteproc?
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  • [14:48:18] <_av500_> what is the issue with remoteproc?
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  • [14:51:56] <Catslab> jkridner: for pru utilisation yes, I replaced something in dts, for the rest I don't know. Rcn-ee wanted to know what I did to get pru working on ti 3.14
  • [14:52:47] <Catslab> that's just a patch for people wanting to get pru the old way
  • [14:54:31] <jkridner> Catslab: thanks
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  • [14:55:29] <Catslab> jkridner: if you know a good how-to remoteproc, I,ll take it :)
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  • [14:56:45] <jkridner> Catslab: The code examples of beaglelogic and pruspeak are the main how-to's I know about right now. http://beagleboard.org/pru shows some steps to reproduce pruspeak.
  • [14:59:42] <Catslab> ok thanks
  • [15:01:07] <Catslab> I bookmarked your github repo and I'll have a look at that later. I first need to get my project runing without remoteproc
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  • [15:16:53] <ogra_> *meow* ?
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  • [15:34:32] <geekswine_> can anyone tell me how GPIO_INSTANCE_ADDRESS like (SOC_GPIO_1_REGS) and GPIO_INSTANCE_PIN_NUMBER like (23) are inter related ?? writing libraries in starterware..
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  • [15:49:58] <geekswine_> anyone somewhat familiar with starterware programming ??
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  • [15:51:25] <codehero1> geekswine_: I never bothered with starterware for my client's custom boards
  • [15:51:55] <geekswine_> :(
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  • [17:20:00] <samael> need to learn how to write device tree files for bbb custom cape. where to start?
  • [17:20:31] <Rotti> i copied an existing one and made the necessary modifications
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  • [17:32:51] <samael> Rotti: that's the approach i'm following. but feel like i'd need a basic overview about dt syntax and low level hardware management
  • [17:33:41] <Rotti> samael: it's nearly two years ago i did it, but i was googling a lot... there have been some blog entries and so on with information... and a lot trial&error
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  • [17:37:55] <stt_michael> there's a device tree compiler thingy rcn-ee has put together .. but there are web tutorials on device-tree
  • [17:38:42] <samael> indeed, there are a lot of informations around, but for a beginner the difficult part is to choose the right ones. anyway, i guess i need to rtfm a lot
  • [17:39:03] <stt_michael> fraid so
  • [17:39:05] <rcn-ee> samael, are you targetting v3.8.x, v3.14.x or mainline?
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  • [17:41:53] <samael> rcn-ee: 3.8 for the moment. i'm using capemgr and still too immature about the platform to be productive with 3.14
  • [17:43:16] <rcn-ee> samael, start with looking thru: https://github.com/beagleboard/linux/tree/3.8/firmware/capes as pretty much every interface has been used at some point.. Once you get that working, we can help you port it to v3.14.x/mainline..
  • [17:43:55] <Abhishek_> ping panto
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  • [17:45:21] <samael> rcn-ee: thanks a lot
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  • [17:48:11] <dikshant> i am getting some error implementing opencv on BBB
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  • [17:48:31] <dikshant> especially when using a webcam
  • [17:48:45] <dikshant> can anyone help
  • [17:49:44] <dikshant> i am getting famous 'VIDIOC_QUERYMENU: Invalid Argument' error on runtime
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  • [17:50:43] <KotH> maybe.. if... you ... asked... in ... an...opencv... channel?
  • [17:51:18] <dikshant> program has no compilation error
  • [17:51:50] <dikshant> i was following derek molloy's tutorial
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  • [17:52:38] <rcn-ee> dikshant, http://linuxtv.org/downloads/v4l-dvb-apis/vidioc-queryctrl.html it's an ioctrl, compare your kernel version with the v4l tools...
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  • [17:52:49] <rcn-ee> somethign is probally too old..
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  • [17:59:45] <CleitonBueno> Hi
  • [18:00:16] <CleitonBueno> Somebody go problem with Kernel 3.14 and GPIO2(P9_22) in AM3358BZCZ?
  • [18:00:28] <CleitonBueno> With AM3359ZA is ok with Kernel 3.14
  • [18:01:05] <dikshant> rcn-ee ichecked the link u posted and couldn't understand
  • [18:01:31] <dikshant> your point
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  • [18:07:05] <stt_michael> dikshant, "uname -r" mi
  • [18:07:08] <stt_michael> might he
  • [18:07:13] <stt_michael> help* on the running system
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  • [18:07:17] <stt_michael> GRR enter key
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  • [18:09:33] <dikshant> michael can u tell me how coz that command just echoes the version of angstrom i am using
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  • [18:12:06] <stt_michael> perhaps it was 'uname -a'
  • [18:12:33] <pecg> Hello, are all Beagle Bone models currently using this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Das_U-Boot , as the boot system?
  • [18:12:37] <stt_michael> eg. mine says "Linux ds-miche2 3.12.21-gentoo-r1 #1 SMP Wed Jul 2 14:25:23 BST 2014 x86_64 AMD A8-6500 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux
  • [18:12:37] <stt_michael> "
  • [18:13:14] <stt_michael> kernel version is "3.12.21-gentoo-r1" in my case .. rcn was suggesting you check that vs the instructions you are following
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  • [18:16:40] <panto> Abhishek_, pong
  • [18:16:57] <pecg> Anyone?
  • [18:16:58] <Abhishek_> Hi panto
  • [18:17:20] <panto> hi
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  • [18:17:39] <Abhishek_> This is about establishing a PRU framework
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  • [18:18:47] <Abhishek_> If you are aware, there's are projects on upstreaming PRU support this year in GSoC and we wanted you to join the discussion
  • [18:19:44] <stt_michael> Abhishek_, website, forum links?
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  • [18:21:16] <Abhishek_> panto: I mean building upon the work you did on the pru remoteproc driver in 3.8.13 and extending it to 3.14 and then to mainline
  • [18:21:36] <panto> ok
  • [18:21:44] <panto> have you figured out what to do with the TI PRU work?
  • [18:22:16] <Abhishek_> Not yet.
  • [18:22:57] <panto> ok
  • [18:23:01] <Abhishek_> I think they are moving twds rpmsg
  • [18:23:24] <panto> yeah, but rpmsg is not high performance enough IMO
  • [18:23:35] <ds2> rpmsg sounds very heavy weight
  • [18:24:18] <Abhishek_> panto: here: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard/GSoC/Ideas#Heterogeneous_co-processor_support_in_open_source_operating_systems_and_libraries
  • [18:24:20] <panto> yeah, I looked at it when I started
  • [18:24:56] <panto> the PRUs have such small code space that you got to tread carefully
  • [18:24:57] <ds2> Abhishek_: 1000KHz capture rates!
  • [18:25:15] <Abhishek_> panto: I agree
  • [18:25:32] <ds2> not only that... unrolling loops in the PRU is one way to meet timing for tight stuff
  • [18:26:09] <Abhishek_> I mean the whole framework has to be lightweight, less boilerplate
  • [18:26:12] <panto> I think the use of rpmsg comes from it's use at TI DSPs
  • [18:27:07] <Abhishek_> s-anna has written the new driver for 3.14
  • [18:27:18] <ds2> have people thought of NOT treating the PRUs like a processor but rather a hardware blob?
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  • [18:28:48] <Abhishek_> I mean, that's the way I looked at the PRUs when I did BeagleLogic, and it did a fantastic job
  • [18:29:06] <Abhishek_> more as in "Software defined peripherals" side
  • [18:29:12] <panto> yep
  • [18:29:16] <panto> that was the idea
  • [18:29:31] <Abhishek_> but?
  • [18:29:33] <panto> but software people have an itch to over-architect everything
  • [18:29:58] <panto> I see the PRU as an FPGA that's programmed in C and assembly
  • [18:30:05] <agmlego> pretty much.
  • [18:30:31] <panto> in fact, I would very much like to see the PRU use the new FPGA framework
  • [18:30:34] <Abhishek_> you give it some data and let it clock it out independent of the main CPU for example
  • [18:30:41] <panto> it might be a better fit that the remoteproc one :)
  • [18:30:44] <Abhishek_> docs?
  • [18:30:53] <panto> google is your friend
  • [18:31:42] <ds2> panto: YES!!!!
  • [18:31:47] <Abhishek_> I really liked the concept of upcalls and downcalls
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  • [18:31:57] <panto> yeah, that is key
  • [18:32:20] <ds2> upcall/downcalls?
  • [18:32:38] <panto> ds2, we use it for comms between the ARM & PRU
  • [18:33:01] <panto> instead of bundling a bunch of data in a message you issue RPC calls back and forth
  • [18:33:11] <ds2> oh that blah
  • [18:33:12] <panto> the trick is that there is no 'message'
  • [18:33:29] <ds2> why not interrupts + "registers" (emulated via the shared mem)
  • [18:33:43] <Abhishek_> There could be both approaches, I thought about this
  • [18:33:44] <panto> you can't emulate a register with memory
  • [18:33:52] <panto> there are interrupts ofcourse
  • [18:33:59] <Abhishek_> as in, halting the PRU before writing the RAM?
  • [18:34:02] <ds2> why not?
  • [18:34:08] <ds2> it seems to work for me
  • [18:34:17] <ds2> no halting
  • [18:34:18] <panto> cause you can't emulate the write to clear behavior
  • [18:34:26] <ds2> Oh that
  • [18:34:28] <panto> with guaranteed results
  • [18:35:00] <ds2> design around that
  • [18:35:16] <panto> then it's not a real-register interface
  • [18:35:22] <ds2> i just put interrupt status as a 32bit counter, new interrupt from PRU bumps it. ARM only does reads
  • [18:35:34] <panto> we do that too
  • [18:35:35] <ds2> in that sense, sure
  • [18:35:47] <panto> anyway, it's s/w
  • [18:35:53] <panto> there's more than one way to skin that cat
  • [18:35:59] <ds2> but it isn't much worse then the i2c slave stuff on a tiny MCU
  • [18:36:07] <Abhishek_> STM32?
  • [18:36:16] <ds2> *nod*
  • [18:36:25] <Abhishek_> even i2c master is a pain
  • [18:36:27] <ds2> Abhishek_: NXP but same idea
  • [18:37:32] <ds2> wish the traditional processor guys would toss out more PLD/FPGA stuff in their silicon to get more people to think differently
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  • [18:38:47] <panto> well, standard cores are much much faster than low cost FPGAs
  • [18:39:07] <panto> and you can integrate them on your die since they use the same process as your big ass cpu core
  • [18:39:11] <Abhishek_> what I really wanted with proposing the PRU framework idea was for someone not to duplicate the effort while developing BeagleLogic
  • [18:39:18] <Abhishek_> *something like
  • [18:39:22] <Abhishek_> or even a small app
  • [18:39:36] <ds2> ADI had some ARM7's w/a PLD on there
  • [18:39:56] <ds2> think some MSPs had them too.
  • [18:39:58] <Abhishek_> That's what I personally liked more about the libprussdrv thingy
  • [18:40:12] <Abhishek_> I could rapidly prototype
  • [18:40:40] <ds2> Abhishek_: the main drawback is libprussdrv didnt expose a kernel version of it
  • [18:40:59] <codehero1> is gpio-of-helper usage deprecated?
  • [18:41:08] <Abhishek_> yup, that was the API I wanted to (help) develop
  • [18:41:28] <codehero1> so what's the alternative?
  • [18:41:36] <ds2> Abhishek_: it doesn't sound like upstream is too receptive :(
  • [18:41:48] <Abhishek_> yup, I understand that
  • [18:41:53] <ds2> Abhishek_: but if you can get momentum, I'd support that and help
  • [18:42:12] <ds2> codehere1: hmm?
  • [18:42:23] <Abhishek_> That's why the "PRUSS Support for newer kernels" proposition
  • [18:43:07] <codehero1> ds2: I wanted to reserve some GPIO in the devicetree but it seems mainline linux does not include gpio-of-helper
  • [18:43:34] <codehero1> ds2: I downloaded a patch for gpio-of-helper a while back but I wasn't sure if it was maintained sitll
  • [18:44:07] <ds2> codehere1: I cannot see a proper use case where that is needed.
  • [18:44:40] <ds2> if you want gpio's, request them.
  • [18:44:51] <ds2> reserve makes no sense
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  • [18:45:19] <codehero1> perhaps I'm missing something
  • [18:45:27] <codehero1> you can set up LEDs and gpio-keys in the devicetree
  • [18:45:42] <codehero1> I thought the same happened for generic GPIO
  • [18:45:57] <codehero1> if you can't see the case for generic GPIO why are gpio-keys special?
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  • [19:04:18] <ds2> \
  • [19:04:36] <ds2> yes but your driver can just request those GPIOs
  • [19:04:46] <ds2> no reason to "reserve" it
  • [19:07:16] <vagrantc> rcn-ee: got CONFIG_BACKLIGHT_GPIO=m into the debian kernel officially, so LCD7 at least should end up working with Jessie's kernel + custom .dtb
  • [19:08:00] <vagrantc> still haven't figured out the minimal config diff to get USB working ok
  • [19:08:07] <vagrantc> (or needed patches)
  • [19:08:27] <rcn-ee> vagrantc, i saw that!! very nice...
  • [19:08:55] <rcn-ee> btw, hopefully the 3.16-clk guys pick up: https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/stable/stable-queue.git/tree/queue-3.18/arm-dts-am335x-bone-usb0-is-hardwired-for-peripheral.patch
  • [19:09:06] <rcn-ee> fixes some random reboots on the bones. ;)
  • [19:09:48] <rcn-ee> yeah, the musb is tied behind 3-4 different config labeles...
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  • [19:12:53] <rcn-ee> nope missed clk8...
  • [19:13:33] <rcn-ee> nm, it's in the repo, never made it to my gmail list..
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  • [19:21:46] <cityLights> rcn-ee: what to look forward to in kernel 4.0 ?
  • [19:22:07] <rcn-ee> kernel patching without reboot! ;)
  • [19:22:30] <rcn-ee> now we know why skynet chose, 4.1.x. ;)
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  • [19:25:43] <ds2> is the machines ready to rise?
  • [19:26:34] <rcn-ee> i think they have, look at all the drones... that last 8 minutes...
  • [19:27:29] <rcn-ee> evil cpu_idle.... the am335x pm firmware doesn't like that option at all..
  • [19:27:48] <ds2> the am335x pm firmware has never worked completely right
  • [19:28:47] <ds2> half tempted to use that M3 for something else
  • [19:30:49] <rcn-ee> it sorta works on v3.14.x-ti... but with cpu_idle + firmware, network transfer speed maxes out at 125Kb/s...
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  • [19:31:02] <rcn-ee> with "either" removed, 10Mb/s..
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  • [19:33:38] <ds2> wonder if it is doing something dumb like shutting things down and bring it up on cpuidle
  • [19:34:22] <rcn-ee> that's my guess too, probally fighting either other tooth and nail for control..
  • [19:34:44] <ds2> they can't fight on the am335x
  • [19:35:03] <rcn-ee> and idel cpu usage is down too.. ;)
  • [19:35:07] <ds2> A8 does a WFI, M3 gets control and does the take down
  • [19:35:34] <ds2> A8 here can't do certain things like on the AM37x/AM35x
  • [19:35:53] <ds2> cpuidle doing a WFI seems like a reasonable thing
  • [19:36:25] <rcn-ee> it's going to have to be eventually fixed in mainline.. i know in v3.14.x they'll just add it to the notes..
  • [19:39:15] <ds2> is there fully working PM for the 33x in ANY version?
  • [19:39:51] <rcn-ee> it goes into suspend and comes out.. does that count?
  • [19:40:44] <ds2> multiple times?
  • [19:42:13] <rcn-ee> i know better.. i only tested once. ;)
  • [19:47:30] <ds2> :D
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  • [19:54:09] <ZeekHuge> hey ! whenever i use apt-get command, like in this example, to download v4l-utils, i get this huge list of errors. need help with this please.
  • [19:54:12] <ZeekHuge> http://pastebin.com/JWPVCCLE
  • [19:56:08] <rcn-ee> ZeekHuge, element14 screwed up when they "modified" bb.org's images delete: sudo rm /etc/init.d/led_aging.sh and reboot..
  • [19:56:39] <rcn-ee> or jsut reflash with a non-modified image: http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#Debian_Image_Testing_Snapshots
  • [19:56:48] <Abhishek_> rcn-ee: The PM firmware sources are available?
  • [19:57:11] <rcn-ee> yeap: http://git.ti.com/gitweb/?p=ti-cm3-pm-firmware/amx3-cm3.git;a=commit;h=d85e6a17da1025adac9ab7f97dd7aa2a58c517ce
  • [19:57:33] <rcn-ee> better link: http://git.ti.com/gitweb/?p=ti-cm3-pm-firmware/amx3-cm3.git;a=tree;h=refs/heads/ti-v3.14.y;hb=refs/heads/ti-v3.14.y
  • [19:58:30] <ZeekHuge> but as i remember, it didt show up, earlier, for the same command . just one day, it suddenly came up .
  • [19:59:03] <rcn-ee> it's always been there, bunch of threads on beagleboard google group...
  • [19:59:19] <ZeekHuge> ok, i'll delete that file.
  • [19:59:23] <ZeekHuge> thank you !
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  • [20:33:59] <twoten> Hi there, I have a BBB and I just replaced Angstrom with the latest Debian image and now I need to mount the micro sd card into my file system so I can install programs. How do I do that?
  • [20:35:34] <rcn-ee> sudo mount /dev/mmcblk** ./<dir>
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  • [20:38:03] <twoten> thanks for that - what's <dir>?
  • [20:38:22] <rcn-ee> the <dir> you chose to mount it too...
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  • [20:39:07] <twoten> okay, should I erase my micro sd first? and will apt-get use the micro sd to install new software?
  • [20:40:10] <rcn-ee> that's not trivial for your average user, either use the eMMC as is, or boot with a bigger microSD card.
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  • [20:43:21] <cityLights> rcn-ee: in the old ubuntu image based on 3.8 we had /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-1/new_device
  • [20:43:34] <cityLights> in jessie (8.0) its missing
  • [20:43:43] <cityLights> what to do to get it back?
  • [20:44:00] <rcn-ee> it should be there. (not sure if i2c-1 is enabled by default)
  • [20:44:32] <twoten> I'm booting off the 2 gigs on the bbb itself - maybe mount my micro sd as /opt?
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  • [20:45:10] <cityLights> I only see i2c-0
  • [20:45:21] <cityLights> I only see i2c-1 back?
  • [20:45:24] <rcn-ee> cityLights, uname -r?
  • [20:45:28] <cityLights> I need it for RTC
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  • [20:45:43] <cityLights> 3.19.0-bone3
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  • [20:47:32] <rcn-ee> cityLights, yeah... https://github.com/RobertCNelson/linux-stable-rcn-ee/blob/3.19-bone3/arch/arm/boot/dts/am335x-boneblack.dts i didn't add the cape eeprom bus by default yet..
  • [20:48:05] <cityLights> right, saw it in rc3 , but didn't want to bother you then
  • [20:48:12] <cityLights> now that 3.19 is out...
  • [20:48:17] <rcn-ee> cityLights, if you add this include: https://github.com/RobertCNelson/linux-stable-rcn-ee/blob/3.19-bone3/arch/arm/boot/dts/am335x-cape-rtc-ds1307.dtsi
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  • [20:52:14] <cityLights> is the included dtc on the image good, or need I run your script to build the compiler from source?
  • [20:52:46] <cityLights> sorry, I have to build the dtc
  • [20:53:18] <rcn-ee> i don't remember. ;) it's probally best to grab the 3.19 branch of dtb-rebuilder and just add that *.dtsi to the main beaglebone black dts. .. :)
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  • [20:54:05] <rcn-ee> if you need the i21 bits: grab it from here: https://github.com/RobertCNelson/linux-stable-rcn-ee/blob/3.19-bone3/arch/arm/boot/dts/am335x-cape-bbb-exp-c.dtsi#L48
  • [20:56:45] <twoten> What if I create /home, /usr and /opt on my microsd and mount them with fstab on every boot? would that work?
  • [20:56:47] <cityLights> I just need to patch the am335x-boneblack.dts to include am335x-cape-rtc-ds1307.dtsi
  • [20:56:55] <cityLights> then build it, right
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  • [20:57:30] <rcn-ee> cityLights, correct... and grab the i2c1 bits if you want that bus too enabled..
  • [20:57:45] <rcn-ee> twoten, and /var/ & /lib
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  • [20:58:08] <rcn-ee> by then, you might as well run off the microSD and add eMMC as opt ;)
  • [20:58:34] <cityLights> I am so grateful your are here rcn
  • [21:00:55] <twoten> I foresee a lot of resizing if I put 5 system partitions on the microsd, what is your advice since my ideas suck?
  • [21:02:04] <rcn-ee> use the "standalone" microSD image...
  • [21:03:12] <twoten> okay, and I can wipe debian off the emmc and use it for /opt?
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  • [21:04:36] <rcn-ee> sure, or whatever else you want to use for it
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  • [21:05:00] <twoten> alright that's a plan, thank you very much!
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  • [21:06:34] <twoten> oh and one more thing, what's the biggest microsd card the bbb can take?
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  • [21:08:45] <rcn-ee> 32gb microSD
  • [21:09:05] <rcn-ee> (sdhc)
  • [21:09:18] <twoten> thanks very much!
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  • [21:17:21] <cityLights> $ /usr/local/bin/dtc -O dtb -o am335x-boneblack.dtbo -b 0 -@ am335x-boneblack.dts
  • [21:17:22] <cityLights> Error: am335x-boneblack.dts:10.1-9 syntax error
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  • [21:18:29] <vagrantc> if i completely zero out the eMMC, i haven't had good luck loading u-boot off of the SD card...
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  • [21:26:07] <stt_michael> vagrantc, even holding down the uSD switch? that sounds like an issue ..
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  • [21:26:47] <rcn-ee> cityLights, use the make scripts in the dtb-rebuilder: http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:Capes_3.8_to_3.14#Custom_dtb (theres a 3.19 branch) the #includes make dtc have a fun time..
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  • [21:27:21] <cityLights> right, sorry , forgot
  • [21:27:34] <vagrantc> stt_michael: ah, maybe i didn't try that.
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  • [21:28:10] <vagrantc> i do recall it working when u-boot was files on a partition, but had trouble when it was dd'ed to the uSD
  • [21:28:28] <vagrantc> i'll have to run through it agian
  • [21:28:30] <vagrantc> again
  • [21:28:59] * vagrantc forsees many BBB reboots in the near future tweaking the kernel...
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  • [21:29:35] <stt_michael> vagrantc .. my understanding from rcn-ee was the config on the eMMC u-boot tried uSD before eMMC anyway .. hence why it 'appears' to magically work without the boot select switch .. but if you zero out the emmc .. it's not going to ever 'see' that .. and relies on the actual hardware boot jumpers
  • [21:29:54] <stt_michael> d'oh lol
  • [21:30:00] <cityLights> I found connman is far better then network-manager in keeping the connection up even when the wifi gateway powers off
  • [21:30:30] <rcn-ee> stt_michael, it's complex. ;) bootrom looks 1: eMMC 2: microsd
  • [21:30:45] <rcn-ee> u-boot: (even when in eMMC) looks to microsd first for "uenv.txt"..
  • [21:32:15] <stt_michael> d'oh
  • [21:32:43] <stt_michael> rcn-ee, where does the boot switch affect, then?
  • [21:33:39] <rcn-ee> the boot switch changes the bootrom order... (omap's usually have around 8 io pins, depending high/low, they tweak the 'order')
  • [21:34:04] <rcn-ee> "but" between reboots (with power pluged in) the 8 io tend to be ignored... (last boot = current boot)
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  • [21:35:11] <stt_michael> rcn-ee, yes, I think the boot "e-fuses" only get read on power-up, so that makes sense.
  • [21:35:29] <rcn-ee> and confuses the crap out of new users. ;)
  • [21:35:41] <stt_michael> eh .. if you know how these devices work .. lol
  • [21:35:55] <stt_michael> (which, true, most REALLY don't..)
  • [21:36:12] <stt_michael> but the software solution is pretty horrible
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  • [21:36:30] <stt_michael> (ie. checking every possible combination before booting the 'most probable' lol)
  • [21:36:47] <stt_michael> burnt my own fingers on that with the beagle (which uEnv was it!?)
  • [21:37:42] <rcn-ee> well, u-boot just added a partition check for "boot" flag in v2015.04-rc, so i think we can simplfy the check going forward even more..
  • [21:37:50] <stt_michael> kewl
  • [21:37:55] <rcn-ee> but of course that might mess up old images, which don't have the boot flag enabled..
  • [21:38:06] <stt_michael> I won't comment on the "burn a boot.scr to an address on disk" .. lol
  • [21:38:33] <stt_michael> rcn-ee, there's probably a work-around for that .. with a bit on ingenuity :)
  • [21:38:34] <rcn-ee> yeah, i patch that out when working on any new board...... yuck
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  • [21:38:58] <rcn-ee> stt_michael, 'work-around" make my if/else current check even longer. ;)
  • [21:39:06] <stt_michael> LOL
  • [21:39:29] <rcn-ee> it's kinda insane right now: https://github.com/RobertCNelson/Bootloader-Builder/blob/master/patches/v2015.04-rc2/0001-am335x_evm-uEnv.txt-bootz-n-fixes.patch
  • [21:39:39] <stt_michael> on totally unrelated note: wifi works on my A13 with realtek out-of-kernel driver .. now I got new USB issues :/ bloody musb drivers
  • [21:39:56] <rcn-ee> see it's just not "ti" . ;)
  • [21:40:02] <rcn-ee> stupid musb...
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  • [21:42:15] <stt_michael> rcn-ee, quick uboot query .. if I'm setting some environment variables eg. ethernet mac, how do I pull variables into a 'bootargs' properly to populate a kernel command-line .. I've got a quite dirty solution, which works .. pastebin incoming ..
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  • [21:42:40] <rcn-ee> for bbb: use "cmdline="
  • [21:43:23] <rcn-ee> (it get's populated after everythign else (console, mmcroot, etc..))
  • [21:43:29] <stt_michael> setenv bootcmd 'set bootargs console=ttyS0,115200n8 ${rootparm} mem=${mem} ip=${ip} eth=${ethaddr} mtdparts=${mtdparts} davinci_wdt.heartbeat=300; nboot 0x80080000 0 ${mtdpart0};bootm 0x80080000'
  • [21:43:45] <stt_michael> I actually ran out of arguments :(
  • [21:43:51] <stt_michael> hence $rootparm lol
  • [21:44:12] <rcn-ee> ah.. there's a u-boot config for that.. (can't remember off hand)
  • [21:44:21] <stt_michael> for args?
  • [21:44:24] <stt_michael> or for boot :)
  • [21:44:33] <rcn-ee> yeah, for total lenght of a variable...
  • [21:44:35] <stt_michael> its another TI board
  • [21:44:39] <stt_michael> DM368
  • [21:44:53] <rcn-ee> then your in trouble, stuck with what ever they had...
  • [21:45:09] <stt_michael> yea that's why I'm relucant to rebuild uboot at this point .. :)
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  • [21:45:20] <stt_michael> but that works .. just wondered if there was a cleaner way to do it
  • [21:45:48] <stt_michael> cos only certain 'set' will substitute variables
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  • [21:46:00] <stt_michael> not quite got my head around uboot substitutions yet lol
  • [21:46:28] <rcn-ee> that's how i'd do it... sometimes my bootargs looks like: set bootargs ${console} ${rootargs} ${videoargs} ${expansion}...
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  • [21:47:44] <stt_michael> yea its just trimming the right stuff so it stacks up :)
  • [21:48:19] <stt_michael> you can call an environment command .. seen that in another board config
  • [21:48:24] <cityLights> rcn-ee: I booted the new dtb file am335x-boneblack.dtb and still no /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-1/
  • [21:48:29] <stt_michael> like 'run abcde' isn't it?
  • [21:49:29] <jkridner> rcn-ee: expect more users of the 3/1 image as I've now linked it on http://beagleboard.org/latest-images
  • [21:49:40] <jkridner> rcn-ee: I still have a bit more clean-up on that page to make it clearer.
  • [21:50:05] <jkridner> rcn-ee: I also want to add Debian images for BeagleBoard/BeagleBoard-xM and BeagleBoard-X15.
  • [21:50:19] <rcn-ee> cityLights, tweak the rtc to look like this: https://gist.github.com/RobertCNelson/4ba4e48abbba7009a74f
  • [21:50:30] <stt_michael> rcn-ee, do you have anything to do with digikey stock .. looking for a cable assembly I can't seem to find anywhere .. but its listed on the digikey site.. only without stock :(
  • [21:50:34] <jkridner> for the flasher and other images, I'll send them to the wiki.
  • [21:51:35] <rcn-ee> jkridner, anything speciall for BB/BBxM kernel wise, the ti v3.14.x (upstream say no to omap3) so it's mainline only.. edid read is broken, that's why BB is seperate from BBxm..
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  • [21:52:02] <rcn-ee> as soon as we fix i2c on omap34, that'll be one image again..
  • [21:52:02] <jkridner> :(
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  • [21:52:28] <rcn-ee> the n900 guys are the only ones really fixing omap34...
  • [21:52:45] <jkridner> guess I'll wait until they are 1 image again.... don't want to have too many images up there to confuse people.
  • [21:53:08] <rcn-ee> specially since the current angstrom image is the "only" one with a working dsp..
  • [21:53:12] <jkridner> just looking for a sane kernel with reasonable video support.
  • [21:53:38] <jkridner> would love to just have the 3.2 kernel we had before, but with a Debian userspace.
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  • [21:53:57] <jkridner> and then eventually move to mainline.
  • [21:54:09] <stt_michael> *cough*gentoo*cough* lol
  • [21:54:11] <rcn-ee> i can add the mainline kernel to the current jessie build, so we'll have a bbxm varient with all the node/cloud9/bonescript stuff..
  • [21:54:52] <stt_michael> *cough* though tht would freak 'users' out a whole lot more .. angstrom was bad enough lol
  • [21:54:55] <cityLights> rcn-ee its i2c-2 now, odd
  • [21:55:09] <stt_michael> cityLights, sounds like progress .. udev, perhaps?
  • [21:55:18] <cityLights> when you say n900 do you mean the n900 nokia phone/
  • [21:55:20] <cityLights> ?
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  • [21:55:59] <rcn-ee> cityLights, yeah... those crazy n900 hackers, have fixed aes/sham in mainline, one was looking at i2c....
  • [21:56:15] <cityLights> udev has only two rules, none match the i2c
  • [21:56:30] <rcn-ee> yeah, i2c/gpio/.... v3.8.x was "wrong".. ;)
  • [21:57:18] <stt_michael> rcn-ee, "root@arm:/home/debian# fw_printenv
  • [21:57:18] <stt_michael> Cannot parse config file: No such file or directory
  • [21:57:18] <stt_michael> " :p
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  • [21:58:50] <stt_michael> aha .. missing /etc/fw_env.config
  • [21:58:56] <cityLights> rcn, all is fine now, back to hacking miracast to work
  • [21:59:51] <stt_michael> right back to bit of wiring .. brb :)
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  • [22:19:10] <opi> hi there. i am looking into doing PRU work and I am looking for a tip on which C compiler to use.
  • [22:19:19] <opi> Any advice?
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  • [22:19:42] <bbb-user> Hi
  • [22:19:52] <opi> hi
  • [22:20:34] <rcn-ee> opi, ti provides a compiler, http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#TI_PRU_Code_Generation_Tools
  • [22:21:03] <opi> thanks for the help! that works!
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  • [22:21:30] <stt_michael> rcn-ee, got a sec to trouble-shoot ya kernel build script?
  • [22:21:42] <stt_michael> something silly I'm sure
  • [22:21:54] <rcn-ee> what did you do to it. ;)
  • [22:22:06] <stt_michael> System command (cd "/usr/share/man" && (echo ".pl 11i"; /bin/bzip2 -c -d '/usr/share/man/man1/git-pull.1.bz2') | /usr/bin/gtbl | /usr/bin/nroff -mandoc | /usr/bin/less) exited with status 141.
  • [22:22:38] <rcn-ee> crazy, where does that come from?
  • [22:22:41] <stt_michael> ah /usr/bin/man not /usr/share :p
  • [22:22:55] <stt_michael> nvm scratch that
  • [22:23:01] <stt_michael> build_kernel.sh
  • [22:23:18] <bbb-user> I'd like to install Debian netinstall image, however including a web-based shell tool. I'd like to save as much as is possible space on eMMC
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  • [22:24:30] <woglinde> bbb-user to save most space use debootstrap
  • [22:24:37] <bbb-user> My goal is to save the space on eMMC as well as to have access to shell via USB
  • [22:24:42] <woglinde> and build your own minial filesystem
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  • [22:25:57] <woglinde> and good nite
  • [22:26:02] <bbb-user> netinstall will is ebough to met my intentions
  • [22:26:05] <rcn-ee> bbb-user, start with: https://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone+Black#BeagleBoneBlack-RootFileSystem(smallflash)
  • [22:26:15] <rcn-ee> it's as small as i could still make useful..
  • [22:26:47] <bbb-user> the question is how to add shell/bash support over usb in my BBB
  • [22:27:14] <rcn-ee> you'll still need to add busbox's udhcp and openssh-server, to run the script to enable g_ether for ssh access over usb..
  • [22:27:34] <ds2> why do you want to use C on the PRU?
  • [22:27:52] <woglinde> rcn-ee or dropbear for ssh-server with smaller footprint
  • [22:28:41] <rcn-ee> i was thinking that, then remember the dropbear pains in angstrom....
  • [22:29:16] <woglinde> ?
  • [22:29:32] <ds2> rcn-ee: does dropbear even support the passwordless login?
  • [22:29:36] <woglinde> I never had problems with dropbear
  • [22:29:47] <woglinde> ds2 sure
  • [22:30:18] <rcn-ee> i just remember that being the question every day with angstrom... users always had to manually delete some file in dropbear to get it working again...
  • [22:30:34] <ds2> woglinde: any insights on that? it seems to prompt for a password regardless
  • [22:30:46] <woglinde> only problem of the client is you can not make it silent when ignoring the fingerprint of the server
  • [22:31:02] <woglinde> ds2 using a key with no password?
  • [22:31:49] <ds2> woglinde: no key, no password
  • [22:32:11] <ds2> the current debian/ubuntu images do that
  • [22:32:15] <woglinde> ds2 hm did not test it
  • [22:32:22] <ds2> oh :P
  • [22:32:26] <woglinde> aeh wait
  • [22:32:27] <woglinde> sure
  • [22:32:55] <woglinde> dropbear is the default server and the images in oe were all without root passwd
  • [22:34:22] <woglinde> so good night
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  • [22:39:50] <bbb-user> rcn-ee: OK, after netinstall I have intention to do following stepsdescribed here: http://www.erpxe.org/Raspberry_Pi_installation_instructions Which steps exactly I have to do to add shell support in the web-browser? There is no external step-by-step guid or something?
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  • [22:42:30] <bbb-user> 8I have to do to add shell support in the web-browser? == support over USB
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  • [22:44:32] <opi> ds2: was that pru c question for me?
  • [22:45:10] <rcn-ee> bbb-user, those aren't the same things... So i'm guessing you want to be able to run ssh/http over the usb link?
  • [22:46:23] <bbb-user> rcn-ee: yes, I couldnt find anything at wiki
  • [22:46:47] <rcn-ee> well it's documented in a few different places...
  • [22:46:54] <rcn-ee> step 1: load g_ether
  • [22:47:01] <rcn-ee> step 2: fire up udhcp
  • [22:47:19] <rcn-ee> i have an example here: 1: https://github.com/RobertCNelson/boot-scripts/blob/master/boot/am335x_evm.sh#L93
  • [22:47:28] <rcn-ee> 2: https://github.com/RobertCNelson/boot-scripts/blob/master/boot/am335x_evm.sh#L110
  • [22:48:23] <rcn-ee> once you get that working, then just add dropbear into the equation to listen on port 22 for ssh.. and apache for port 80...
  • [22:49:05] <ds2> yes
  • [22:50:04] <opi> hehe. i remember c. cant day i did asm before. trying to read out pulses from hall sense based flow sensor. the pru looks fast enough to do this.
  • [22:50:34] <opi> flow sensor provides square pulses
  • [22:50:56] <opi> ds2: what do you think?
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  • [22:52:40] <ds2> C doesn't give you much control
  • [22:52:51] <ds2> you only have 8K of ram or 2K of instructions
  • [22:53:23] <opi> i see
  • [22:53:36] <opi> asm my only option?
  • [22:53:46] <ds2> how fast of a signal are you looking at acquiring?
  • [22:53:55] <ds2> if you do slow stuff, C can work
  • [22:54:02] <ds2> but it is like doing C on the 6502
  • [22:54:59] <rcn-ee> the t-800 ran on the 6502 just fine..
  • [22:55:53] <opi> understood. i am looking at about max 30 pulses/ second.
  • [22:56:11] <ds2> pulses? are they PWM'ed or?
  • [22:56:20] <ds2> there might be easier ways of doing things then the PRU
  • [22:57:01] <opi> here is an example of sensor:
  • [22:57:02] <opi> http://www.ebay.com/itm/111316005163?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
  • [22:57:16] <opi> this is cheap but i was hoping to learn with this one
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  • [22:58:31] <ds2> it converts flow to pulse rate?
  • [22:58:49] <ds2> if so, look at the capture block on the chip
  • [22:59:06] <opi> ds2: little magnet goes by and pulses every 360deg i think
  • [22:59:14] <opi> via hall
  • [22:59:34] <opi> ok. capture block on chip?
  • [22:59:38] <ds2> yeah
  • [22:59:46] <ds2> QEP or QCAP
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  • [23:00:19] <ds2> eQEP
  • [23:00:22] <opi> not sure i understand completely. i have done python with ADC and worked some OLED with instructions and library.
  • [23:00:30] <opi> :)
  • [23:00:37] <ds2> that one will count in HW
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  • [23:01:03] <smurray> there's a driver kicking around for it
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  • [23:01:41] <opi> a driver for pulsing input?
  • [23:02:02] <smurray> for the eQEP h/w
  • [23:02:14] <opi> ok
  • [23:02:57] <smurray> the eQEP h/w block is purposely for decoding rotary encoders
  • [23:03:07] <smurray> so it can probably do what you want
  • [23:03:13] <opi> ok
  • [23:03:18] <ds2> no point in reinventing the wheel
  • [23:03:23] <opi> i like that
  • [23:03:27] <opi> found this:
  • [23:03:28] <ds2> the PRUSS is very nice but when you have dedicated HW... use it!
  • [23:03:28] <opi> https://nathanielrlewis.com/archives/87
  • [23:03:45] <opi> i agree
  • [23:03:56] <smurray> I think it might be part of rcn's kernel distribution, but I'm not sure
  • [23:04:26] <rcn-ee> it's in 3.8 by default..
  • [23:06:14] <opi> how many sensors can the eQEP work with simul?
  • [23:06:21] <opi> is it like a bus?
  • [23:07:28] <ds2> not AFAIK
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  • [23:07:51] <opi> ok
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  • [23:10:05] <opi> thanks for the info so far! i am reading up.
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  • [23:18:07] <opi> re the eQEP: i understand there are 3 units on the BBB
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  • [23:19:10] <opi> dont use the hdmi, so that i should be able to use all 3
  • [23:24:37] <smurray> yes
  • [23:25:04] <smurray> if you need more than that, you would likely have to resort to the PRU
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  • [23:26:23] <opi> and if i do pru, the options are c (very limited) or assembler, right?
  • [23:26:59] <rob_w> how is c limited ?
  • [23:27:21] <rob_w> c_lim ?
  • [23:28:15] <opi> ds2 mentioned something about 8K of ram or 2K of instructions if c; if i understood correctly
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  • [23:29:19] <rob_w> size of the pru resouces is limited, thats true
  • [23:30:05] <rob_w> but if the whole 200mhz is just to sample some i/o then is nice
  • [23:30:11] <ds2> for slow IO, sure
  • [23:30:23] <ds2> the more interseting stuff on the PRU just won't work with C
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  • [23:30:41] <opi> ok
  • [23:30:55] <opi> is there a good reference or book on the pru work?
  • [23:31:04] <opi> any opinions?
  • [23:31:07] <ds2> but then for slow IO, there are often alternatives
  • [23:31:11] <opi> best reference that is
  • [23:31:16] <ds2> opi: there TRM, old version
  • [23:31:19] <opi> i guess, i will eventually have to deal with it.
  • [23:31:21] <opi> ;)
  • [23:31:21] <ds2> check elinux.org
  • [23:31:30] <ds2> there is also a github repo with the doc broken out
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  • [23:33:54] <mdp> opi: are you aware of the ecap iio driver for pulse capture?
  • [23:34:56] <opi> all: thanks!
  • [23:34:58] <mdp> I would use that dedicated hw for the case you describe. I did the same for an ultrasonic sensor with us length pulses I needed to capture
  • [23:35:04] <opi> mdp: no. but it sounds good.
  • [23:35:54] <mdp> http://lkml.org/lkml/2014/2/5/378
  • [23:36:12] <opi> mdp: i was looking at something like this:
  • [23:36:13] <opi> http://www.newark.com/red-lion/ifma0035/converter-frequency-to-analog/dp/84K7452?mckv=syh2qtulp|pcrid|53816210061|plid|&CMP=KNC-GUSA-GEN-SHOPPING-RED_LION
  • [23:36:20] <mdp> It's being reworked for some suggested api changes
  • [23:36:23] <opi> ...that is, talking about dedicated
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  • [23:38:24] <mdp> Ok..I'm lost..you were talking about a specific flow sensor above that apparently present a pulse train
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  • [23:40:38] <opi> mdp: yes flow sensor -> square pulses. the newark link item would provide analog measurement.
  • [23:40:47] <opi> hope i got that right
  • [23:41:06] <opi> but i thought working with bbb direct is the pro way to do it
  • [23:41:35] <mdp> It's also the easiest way
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  • [23:42:30] <mdp> Feed it to an ecap pin and with that driver you get a ring buffer of samples from each pulse
  • [23:43:40] <opi> ok
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