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[00:00:31] * Topic is 'http://beagleboard.org/chat has a guide on how to ask questions and links to the logs | never ask to ask, just ask | be patient | pastebin a boot log | http://ahsoftware.de/Beaglebone_Black_Boot_explained.svg | http://beagleboard.org/latest-images | http://beagleboard.org/Support/bone101 | direct bonescript/node.js questions to #beagle-bonescript | books: http://bit.ly/bbb-books'
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[00:17:12] <Abhishek_> I guess that's the one used a MOOC on mobile robotics by Georgia Tech on Coursera
[00:17:24] <Abhishek_> ds2 ^
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[00:17:31] <valentim> someone here?
[00:17:37] <ds2> ah
[00:17:41] <valentim> could help me?
[00:18:07] <valentim> I receive a beaglebone white from a friend to do some stuffs
[00:18:29] <valentim> but I can't access it throught the original ip 192.168.7.2
[00:18:40] <valentim> I've installed the drivers (Windows 7 x64)
[00:18:55] <valentim> and I'm connecting on USB and ethernet
[00:19:24] <valentim> I don't know if I'm with problems with driver or with ethernet subnet configuration
[00:19:42] <valentim> I don't know the IP to access and work on it
[00:20:25] <valentim> received*
[00:20:41] <veremit> the 7.2 will only be available via usb
[00:21:25] <Abhishek_> as for ethernet, the board expects that it will be assigned an address by an external DHCP server if I'm not wrong
[00:22:27] <ds2> for the white, install the FTDI drivers
[00:22:30] <ds2> then use the serial port
[00:23:06] <valentim> ok, I'll take a look
[00:23:36] <ds2> IIRC, goto ftdi's site and get the drivers there
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[00:38:49] <valentim> does the BBW need a SD card to run?
[00:39:27] <valentim> it doesn't run on embedded memory? I think only BBB need it
[00:40:12] <valentim> my BBW here still doesn't communicate by serial (or ethernet). But it is not equipped now with any SD card
[00:43:27] <valentim> (and I've updated the FTDI driver)
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[00:49:14] <kerne_bie> fixed the problem as the problem was that mmc card was bad
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[01:12:56] <TheKiwi> So... not quite on topic, but that new Pi is nice, huh?
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[01:13:17] <TheKiwi> Still missing the better IO of the BBB, but the new CPU is impressive
[01:14:21] <TheKiwi> It'd be nice to see a BB model with better media support at some point
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[01:15:33] <ds2> hmmmm face detect is working pretty well
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[02:29:36] <valentim> guys
[02:29:41] <valentim> my situation now
[02:29:55] <valentim> BBW with Ubuntu image installed on SD
[02:30:05] <valentim> connected on USB to my Win7 x64
[02:30:37] <valentim> and rj45 to my swith with automatic configuration (I've just installed ubuntu)
[02:31:10] <valentim> my local port (rj45 not wifi) is linked to the same router with ip 192.68.7.3
[02:31:28] <valentim> I think I should see the BBW but i can't
[02:31:46] <valentim> I updated the driver USB and FTDI
[02:31:57] <valentim> installed the lastest Ubuntu image
[02:32:12] <valentim> but it doesn't communicate with my note
[02:33:29] <valentim> the default IP on Ubuntu image is not 192.168.7.2?
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[02:35:03] <valentim> I typed "arp -a" on command prompt at my Win7
[02:35:20] <valentim> and tested all the IPs on my local network
[02:35:29] <valentim> none of those was the BBW
[02:35:45] <valentim> so it's not by automatic IP from DHCP
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[03:49:25] <TBag> hi everyone
[03:49:34] <TBag> I need some help
[03:50:02] <TBag> please help me to point out this problem
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[03:53:04] <Tbag> hello
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[05:41:54] <uhhimhere> hi guys where would I find the source files for these drivers in the device kernel source? http://pastebin.com/sJcUPKfi
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[05:45:33] <seitensei> Will anything break in debian if I want to install a more recent version of nodejs?
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[05:59:27] <n1cky> are the pins labeled somewhere online? I can't find a good diagram anywhere
[06:00:30] <n1cky> aaand i found something
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[06:12:56] <LetoThe2nd> seitensei: if you do it properly (e.g. through the package management, everything should be fine.)
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[07:30:26] <kk__> can we mount mtp device on beaglebone. I am using linux 3.14.4 ubuntu on beaglebone.
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[07:38:41] <av500> sure
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[07:38:52] <av500> you need libmtp
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[07:39:06] <av500> https://www.google.com/search?q=using+libmtp+ubuntu
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[07:45:45] <kk__> we can mount it using libmtp and mtpfs but need to remount eachtime when some data added/removed to mount directory. This problem is solved on gvfs-mtp. But problem is that i am using console OS and gvfs required GNOME.
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[08:03:43] <av500> http://askubuntu.com/questions/360002/how-to-use-gvfs-mtp-mount-from-the-command-line-in-ubuntu-13-04
[08:10:30] <kk__> av500 : Required gnome.(Desktop)
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[12:43:04] <bunty> Anybody here who could guide me for configuiring , compiling, building kernel and DTB and rootfs for Beaglebone black from scratch.
[12:44:20] <bunty> I am confusing a lot. Please if somebody there know it i will be very kind enough to learn it.
[12:44:47] <julemand101> bunty: why do you need to do it from scratch?
[12:45:35] <bunty> actually i know kernel compilation and configuration of pc
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[12:57:30] <vvu_> bunty: https://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone+Black
[12:57:33] <vvu_> has all the steps there
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[13:06:18] <wuffman_> Hi guys, sorry to interrupt.. I have just flashed my beagle bone black with BBB-eMMC-flasher-debian-7.7-console-armhf-2015-01-06-2gb.img.. My os is ubuntu 14.04. My problem is that the ethernet network is not etablished when i connect the usb to BBB.. Do you know what could be wrong
[13:06:23] <wuffman_> _
[13:06:26] <wuffman_> ?
[13:07:53] <tbr> wuffman_: first boot takes longer (10-20min) after that make sure that the USB0 network adapter shows up and is enabled in your network settings
[13:08:24] <tbr> wuffman_: if you disconnected/rebooted during first boot before the device was fully set up, reflash your device. It might have corrupted itself.
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[13:10:42] <wuffman_> tbr: woah! Ok, i probaply got impatient.. I will try again.. Thanks
[13:10:48] <tbr> np
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[13:11:19] <tbr> basically be patient
[13:14:44] <wuffman_> Hehe.. :) - I'll do my best :)
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[13:27:23] <kumar___> Hi
[13:28:49] <kumar___> Does the BeagleBone Black supports Windows?. I would like to install Windows CE or windows in BeagleBone Black. Kindly let me know it supports...
[13:29:04] <tbr> ask microsoft
[13:29:14] <tbr> they might have a CE for it, or TI
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[13:29:35] <tbr> this channel is 99% about Linux on BeagleBoards
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[13:31:35] <umesh> guys i have a problem
[13:32:05] <umesh> when i plug my beaglebone via usb
[13:32:29] <umesh> i cant access the ip 192.168.7.2
[13:32:35] <umesh> help with that
[13:32:44] <kumar___> Has anyone tried to install windows in BeagleBone Balck?
[13:34:45] <tbr> umesh: what OS are you running on your BBB?
[13:34:59] <umesh> ubuntu
[13:35:11] <umesh> and i have also updated the image
[13:35:58] <tbr> I don't think ubuntu uses usb-networking
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[13:36:14] <tbr> read up the documentation of that image, wherever you downloaded it
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[13:38:01] <umesh> before i installed ubuntu, adter i update the image in Angstrom
[13:38:13] <umesh> sich that i had this problem
[13:38:56] <umesh> N btw after u install the OS can we remove the SD card? cz when i plug it in to pc, it recognizes as a startup beaglebone!
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[13:39:21] <Rotti> hi
[13:39:42] <julemand101> hi
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[14:21:12] <cubick> hi does anyone try the use of Android BLE capabilities on the beagle black?
[14:21:42] <av500> BBB has BLE?
[14:23:27] <tbr> if you plug in a ble-stick, maybe?
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[14:25:51] <cubick> Sorry I've been kicked out... I was saying that BBB doesn't have on board Bluetooth but you can use a dongle
[14:26:30] <cubick> I was wondering if the Android implementation provided with the board is able to use those capabilities
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[14:26:44] <av500> cubick: no idea
[14:26:49] <av500> I rather doubt it
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[14:28:02] <cubick> thanks, I appreciate your help!!
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[15:41:38] <jkridner> gm beaglers
[15:41:40] <jkridner> sorry I was gone all weekend. sister's birthday and all.
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[15:47:19] <alexanderhiam> hi jkridner
[15:47:26] <jkridner> howdy alexanderhiam
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[17:52:57] <Parduz> hello everyone
[17:53:48] <Parduz> could i ask a little help about compiling a wxwidgets sample in ubuntu 14.10? i have an error i don't understand
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[17:56:42] <veremit> paste it .. we're not telepathic
[17:57:57] <Parduz_> trying to copy from the ubuntu VM,,,,ù
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[17:59:13] <Parduz_> root@ubuntu-VirtualBox:/home/ubuntu/SORGENTI/wxWidgets-3.0.2/samples/minimal# make -f makefile.gcc if not exist gcc_mswud mkdir gcc_mswud make: -c: Command not found makefile.gcc:219: recipe for target 'gcc_mswud' failed make: [gcc_mswud] Error 127 (ignored) windres --use-temp-file -i../../samples/sample.rc -ogcc_mswud\minimal_sample_rc.o --define __WXMSW__ --define _UNICODE --include-dir .\..\..\lib\gcc_lib\mswud --include
[18:00:35] <Parduz_> windres --use-temp-file -i../../samples/sample.rc -ogcc_mswud\minimal_sample_rc.o --define __WXMSW__ --define _UNICODE --include-dir .\..\..\lib\gcc_lib\mswud --include-dir ./../../include --include-dir . --include-dir ./../../samples --define NOPCH make: -c: Command not found makefile.gcc:234: recipe for target 'gcc_mswud\minimal_sample_rc.o' failed make: *** [gcc_mswud\minimal_sample_rc.o] Error 127
[18:00:42] <Parduz_> well, that's all
[18:01:45] <KaaK> what is the difference between mmcblkN and mmcblkNbootM ?
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[18:02:11] <KaaK> is it a separate partition?
[18:03:38] <jkridner> KaaK: they are special block devices, not just a partition.
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[18:04:02] <jkridner> they are still on the same physical eMMC, but they have a different access mechanism.
[18:04:03] <KaaK> jkridner, what are there purpose (if any)?
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[18:04:30] <jkridner> to hold bootloaders separate from the main block device that can be partitioned.... ie, for recovery.
[18:04:46] <jkridner> KaaK: we'd just need to develop something to put in them and make sure we can boot from them.
[18:05:09] <jkridner> KaaK: my understanding is that the ROM bootloader supports them, but no one has gone through the debug process.
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[18:06:00] <KaaK> jkridner, interesting. Sounds like it'd beat just DD'ing the MLO and u-boot.img straight to the main block device
[18:06:31] <jkridner> KaaK: yup. a recovery kernel in there would be great. I'm not sure of the size.
[18:06:52] <jkridner> there are two of them as well to best support firmware upgrades.
[18:06:59] <jkridner> anyway, that is what they are for.
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[18:08:12] <KaaK> jkridner, thanks for the info -- do you have any links on where to read further on them?
[18:08:26] <Dominic_> Hi. We're starting a new development using Beaglebone and we're looking for a "top consultant" who'll be able to help us how to get started. Can you help us?
[18:08:47] <jkridner> not really... I'd have to google for them. check out the device TRM for info on the ROM and data sheet on the eMMc.
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[18:10:12] <jkridner> Dominic_: http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Linux_Consultants_and_Commercial_Linux_Providers
[18:10:35] <Dominic_> Thank you
[18:11:29] <ds2> hmmm
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[18:12:11] <Parduz_> ...help pls?
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[18:39:36] <Parduz> can i ask for help again?
[18:41:18] <Parduz> root@ubuntu-VirtualBox:/home/ubuntu/SORGENTI/wxWidgets-3.0.2/samples/minimal# make -f makefile.gcc
[18:41:20] <Parduz> if not exist gcc_mswud mkdir gcc_mswud
[18:41:21] <Parduz> make: -c: Command not found
[18:41:23] <Parduz> What is the cause of the error?
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[18:48:21] <veremit> "Command not found" I would suggest
[18:48:24] <vagrantc> it might be good to look in a more appropriate channel?
[18:49:19] <veremit> I'd recommend you take a larger copy/paste of your error and upload to pastebin or similar too.
[18:49:30] <veremit> make errors can be harder to spot
[18:49:32] <Parduz> the reason i'm here is 'cause i would like to cross-compile for the BBB. As a Linux newbie, i'm trying to build for Ubuntu before the cross-compiler
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[18:49:59] <veremit> walk before you run, young jedi :)
[18:50:38] <Parduz> here the whole error:
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[18:50:51] <Parduz> root@ubuntu-VirtualBox:/home/ubuntu/SORGENTI/wxWidgets-3.0.2/samples/minimal# make -f makefile.gcc
[18:50:52] <Parduz> if not exist gcc_mswud mkdir gcc_mswud
[18:50:54] <Parduz> make: -c: Command not found
[18:50:55] <Parduz> makefile.gcc:219: recipe for target 'gcc_mswud' failed
[18:50:57] <Parduz> make: [gcc_mswud] Error 127 (ignored)
[18:50:58] <Parduz> windres --use-temp-file -i../../samples/sample.rc -ogcc_mswud\minimal_sample_rc.o --define __WXMSW__ --define _UNICODE --include-dir .\..\..\lib\gcc_lib\mswud --include-dir ./../../include --include-dir . --include-dir ./../../samples --define NOPCH
[18:51:00] <Parduz> make: -c: Command not found
[18:51:01] <Parduz> makefile.gcc:234: recipe for target 'gcc_mswud\minimal_sample_rc.o' failed
[18:51:03] <Parduz> make: *** [gcc_mswud\minimal_sample_rc.o] Error 127
[18:51:04] <Parduz> root@ubuntu-VirtualBox:/home/ubuntu/SORGENTI/wxWidgets-3.0.2/samples/minimal#
[18:51:26] <veremit> cross-compiling is quite different to native .. there's a lot of stuff to set up for cross-.
[18:51:50] <Parduz> I know, veremit. I'm bashing my head on this from about two weeks
[18:51:58] <veremit> what I dunno, is why you're using a windows cross-compiler ... clue: ms<abcde>
[18:52:20] <veremit> and MSW<xyz>
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[18:53:03] <Parduz> wait..... i'm not cross compiling here.... at least, that what i didnt think to do
[18:53:16] <Parduz> so i picked the wrong makefile?
[18:53:29] <veremit> if you're on ubuntu, your compiler should just be gcc/etc .. if you're cross-compiling to arm (for beagle) you'll be running abc-arm-xyz-def-gcc
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[18:53:56] <veremit> so there's where to look first :)
[18:54:19] <veremit> I'll bbiab .. gotta afk
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[18:54:56] <Parduz> pls be patient: what i'm doing wrong is using the wrong "make" or the wrong "makefile"?
[18:55:36] <adj> wrong makefile
[18:56:03] <adj> just a random guess: what would just plain "make" do?
[18:56:28] <Parduz> says that there's no makefile
[18:56:46] <Parduz> all the makefile files are with an extension
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[18:58:15] <Parduz> root@ubuntu-VirtualBox:/home/ubuntu/SORGENTI/wxWidgets-3.0.2/samples/minimal# ls
[18:58:16] <Parduz> borland.bdsproj makefile.gcc minimal_carbon.xcodeproj minimal_vc7.vcproj
[18:58:18] <Parduz> borland_ide.cpp Makefile.in minimal_cocoa.xcodeproj minimal_vc8.vcproj
[18:58:19] <Parduz> descrip.mms makefile.mic minimal.cpp minimal_vc9.vcproj
[18:58:21] <Parduz> Info_carbon.plist makefile.unx minimal.dsp sample.icns
[18:58:22] <Parduz> Info_cocoa.plist makefile.vc Minimal.icc
[18:58:24] <Parduz> Info_iphone.plist makefile.wat minimal_iphone.xcodeproj
[18:58:25] <Parduz> makefile.bcc minimal.bkl minimal.plc
[18:58:37] <adj> makefkile.unx
[18:58:43] <adj> or .gcc
[18:59:02] <Parduz> the gcc is what i called before
[18:59:07] <Parduz> trying the unx
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[19:00:23] <Parduz> HEY! IT WORKED!
[19:00:34] <Parduz> great
[19:01:00] <Parduz> now, for the BBB? I already apt-get the arm-gnueabihf.....
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[19:01:51] <Parduz> i need to build the wxwidgets library for BBB, now.
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[19:13:46] <Parduz> mh.... seems i'm lacking GTK+..... the guide i'm following is outdate (at least). What's the current gtk-dev i should "apt-get"?
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[19:20:54] <Marz> If you install Debian Wheezy 7.5 on your beaglebone, does bonescript still work?
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[19:26:44] <jkridner> Marz: yes.
[19:27:10] <jkridner> It is pre-installed on the 7.x images on http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian
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[19:31:00] <Parduz> configure command don't find GTK, which i have just installed....... help?
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[19:34:26] <Parduz> root@ubuntu-VirtualBox:/home/ubuntu/SORGENTI/wxWidgets-3.0.2/X_BUILD# pkg-config --modversion gtk+-2.0
[19:34:28] <Parduz> Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
[19:34:29] <Parduz> Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc'
[19:34:31] <Parduz> to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
[19:34:32] <Parduz> No package 'gtk+-2.0' found
[19:35:01] <Parduz> Should'nt the apt-get install take care of this?
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[22:29:14] <ds2> PRU programming is a lot like DSP programming
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[22:58:10] <emeb> for certain values of DSP
[23:00:23] <ds2> the cycle counting and needing to use the hw or not meet timing
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[23:01:30] <emeb> very much so
[23:02:02] <ds2> and manually interleaving instructions
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[23:03:12] <emeb> that's the un-fun part
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[23:06:47] <ds2> you could always pay more for a faster chip
[23:07:02] <ds2> BT656 video timing on the PRU is tight!
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[23:19:41] <emeb> ds2: lately I tend to do DSP on chips that either don't need interleaving, or have compilers that can handle it for me.
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