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  • [01:22:33] <puppy1> My BBB does not connect to my computer through the USB client port.
  • [01:23:20] <puppy1> It's supposed to show up as a mass storage device if I'm not mistaken.
  • [01:23:32] <puppy1> I get nothing.
  • [01:23:42] <veremit> it should appear as several devices or a composite device. but it depends on your drivers
  • [01:23:46] <veremit> what operating system are you using?
  • [01:23:59] <puppy1> I've tried it under Win7 and Mint 16
  • [01:24:15] <puppy1> I'm thinking I have a bad board
  • [01:24:32] <veremit> does it work with ethernet via the RJ45 conector?
  • [01:24:47] <veremit> usb client is known to be quirky
  • [01:24:58] <puppy1> I don't see anything over Ethernet either
  • [01:25:10] <veremit> do the LEDs flash?
  • [01:25:11] <puppy1> router doesn't give it an IP
  • [01:25:16] <puppy1> LEDs DO flash
  • [01:25:33] <puppy1> I can connect it to my TV and I see it boot to a desktop
  • [01:26:36] <puppy1> It doesn't seem to try and enumerate at all
  • [01:26:41] <veremit> hmm on what image?
  • [01:26:59] <puppy1> If there are no drivers it usually shows up under the device manager with a yellow exclamation mark.
  • [01:27:01] <veremit> I cannot imagine they'd ship a dud board
  • [01:27:18] <puppy1> depends on how thoroughly they check them
  • [01:27:41] <puppy1> a lot of transistors to test there.
  • [01:27:43] <veremit> I think CirCo have quite a decent routine
  • [01:27:52] <veremit> you can see a video on their site
  • [01:28:08] <veremit> covers manufacture to test :)
  • [01:28:39] <puppy1> I haven't tried to re-flash it
  • [01:28:51] <puppy1> just got it on Tuesday
  • [01:29:01] <puppy1> from e14
  • [01:29:46] <puppy1> tried powering up and connecting using the 5V power jack as well using my power supply
  • [01:30:04] <puppy1> lights come on just like they do with USB...
  • [01:31:01] <puppy1> on Mint 'lsusb' doesn't show any changes when I plug it in
  • [01:31:43] <puppy1> not sure how much more I can do...
  • [01:32:53] <veremit> you need to google getting the gadgrt drivers in liinux
  • [01:32:54] <puppy1> I would expect my router to issue it an IP also
  • [01:33:03] <veremit> yes it should
  • [01:35:03] <puppy1> is DHCP the default for the BBB?
  • [01:37:58] <veremit> yes for ethernet
  • [01:38:24] <veremit> usb gadget ethernet comes up on 192.168.7.2 iirc
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  • [01:40:37] <puppy1> Would it make sense that the usb gadget ethernet would work while the mass storage would now?
  • [01:41:49] <puppy1> I've installed the drivers also.
  • [01:41:55] <veremit> I'm not 100% sure but there could be a trio .. usb mass storage, serial and ethernet
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  • [01:44:06] <puppy1> all three "devices" should show up?
  • [01:44:15] <veremit> I believe so
  • [01:45:17] <puppy1> And the serial portion. It isn't and FTDI clone is it?
  • [01:45:46] <veremit> its embedded in the usb client in the processor
  • [01:47:05] <puppy1> just wondering if it is brickable by the FTDI driver
  • [01:47:42] <veremit> no it has no ftdi or other usb converter involved anywhere
  • [01:48:34] <puppy1> k
  • [01:50:15] <puppy1> that rules that out
  • [01:50:35] <veremit> heh
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  • [01:51:53] <puppy1> With no drivers at all it should at least load as a mass storage device, correct?
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  • [02:01:09] <veremit> no .. lol
  • [02:01:14] <veremit> its still a usb device :)
  • [02:01:22] <veremit> they're all 'emulated' devices
  • [02:01:32] <veremit> none are physical
  • [02:01:44] <puppy1> hmmm
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  • [02:04:11] <puppy1> maybe I'll try the 32 bit drivers....
  • [02:05:13] <puppy1> no go, it says 64 only
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  • [02:08:48] <puppy1> 64 bit installer says everything is good
  • [02:08:55] <puppy1> plugged in...
  • [02:09:02] <puppy1> blue lights flashing....
  • [02:09:28] <puppy1> no new devices showing up...
  • [02:19:16] <veremit> there should be a purge process for windows somewhere .. I don't remember where since I never use windows for development
  • [02:24:02] <jimmyhoughjr> anyone here know much about the beagle bone black hw?
  • [02:24:39] <puppy1> I guess I'll just reboot....
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  • [02:24:56] <jimmyhoughjr> I've read some chatter that it has an RTC and I wonder if it is a hardware RTC or if it is simply a software clock
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  • [02:26:20] <veremit> hardware rtc embedded in the processor .. but there is no backup battery /etc
  • [02:26:46] <jimmyhoughjr> ok but it is more than just say counting the cpu ticks?
  • [02:27:03] <jimmyhoughjr> thanks btw
  • [02:27:04] <veremit> its an rtc . check the TI technical reference manual
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  • [02:27:24] <jimmyhoughjr> will do
  • [02:27:43] <jimmyhoughjr> I recently took the plunge to bbb for a project over using an arudino and pi
  • [02:27:52] <veremit> shuold be linked on the beagleboard.org site
  • [02:28:39] <jimmyhoughjr> im also curious about code completion in cloud9, it doesnt seem to have any lol
  • [02:30:09] <jimmyhoughjr> i don't really know much javascript so i think it would help
  • [02:30:14] <veremit> ok I gotta bale and sleep .. nite folks I-)
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  • [02:33:40] <jimmyhoughjr> night
  • [02:34:41] <jimmyhoughjr> i wonder how its RTC cmopares with a DS3231
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  • [02:48:58] <jimmyhoughjr> im debating whether to use js or ruby for my bone project, any opinions?
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  • [03:18:52] <m_billybob> js
  • [03:18:57] <m_billybob> node specifically
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  • [05:13:07] <jimmyhoughjr> m_billybob have you read the book Programming the BeagleBone Black: Gettings started with BeagleBone and Javascript?
  • [05:13:20] <jimmyhoughjr> er javascript and bonecsript
  • [05:13:22] <m_billybob> nope
  • [05:13:45] <m_billybob> personally, i have no interrest in bonescript.
  • [05:14:02] <m_billybob> But am interrested in Nodejs
  • [05:17:21] <jimmyhoughjr> im trying an example use socket.io and node
  • [05:18:46] <jimmyhoughjr> but im getting "Error: Cannot find module '/opt/cloud9/build/standalonebuild/node.js' "
  • [05:19:48] <jimmyhoughjr> any ideas? this book has no troubleshooting advice :/
  • [05:20:35] <jimmyhoughjr> it halts in " NativeModule.prototype.compile = function() { ..." in node.js
  • [05:22:17] <jimmyhoughjr> here is the code https://gist.github.com/jhoughjr/5e6a2ed6d308e56779d4
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  • [06:16:24] <m_billybob> jimmyhoughjr, good is your friend
  • [06:16:29] <m_billybob> google*
  • [06:16:53] <jimmyhoughjr> i finally fixed it sans google, had various typos
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  • [06:17:15] <jimmyhoughjr> I can use a named function in places where they are using anonymous ones correct?
  • [06:17:18] <m_billybob> this is one reason why im not big on using ppls code like bonescript
  • [06:17:42] <m_billybob> imho bonescript isnt even needed
  • [06:18:00] <som1> hi im unable to connect to beaglebone via serial usb after a system upgrade.
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  • [06:18:56] <som1> how do i connect now?
  • [06:19:59] <som1> or any way to reset ssh password from the web console?
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  • [06:39:03] <jimmyhoughjr> m_billybob bonescript wasnt the problem
  • [06:39:22] <jimmyhoughjr> all it is is a lib to access the GPIO
  • [06:39:53] <jimmyhoughjr> som1 it has serial usb?
  • [06:40:06] <m_billybob> jimmyhoughjr, i guess, but problem is I'm still new-ish to Nodejs, and I like to keep things as clean as posible.
  • [06:40:09] <m_billybob> he eft
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  • [06:40:23] <jimmyhoughjr> ah
  • [06:40:25] <m_billybob> he left, but his question was so vague no way in hel anyoen could troubleshoot it
  • [06:40:46] <jimmyhoughjr> yeah i didnt know there was serial over the usb, but ive just had my board 2 days now
  • [06:41:00] <m_billybob> could be anything from modules conflicting with newer kernel to the need for modeprobe
  • [06:41:07] <m_billybob> yeah its known as g_serial
  • [06:41:11] <m_billybob> it is pretty handy
  • [06:41:32] <jimmyhoughjr> but now its on like donkey kong, i got a dict of urls and a little function to serve them
  • [06:41:33] <m_billybob> modprobe*
  • [06:41:51] <m_billybob> cool thing about nodejs
  • [06:41:51] <jimmyhoughjr> and nwo i have a reason to use my html5 book
  • [06:42:01] <m_billybob> is you can use it with express to serve up static content
  • [06:42:09] <jimmyhoughjr> did you do any programming before node?
  • [06:42:17] <m_billybob> lots
  • [06:42:23] <jimmyhoughjr> what langs?
  • [06:42:26] <m_billybob> im an experienced programmer
  • [06:42:56] <jimmyhoughjr> im fairly experienced myself, been programming in one for or another since i was a kid in BASIC
  • [06:43:01] <m_billybob> qbasic ( first )ASM C/C++ C# VB.NET, and I can read many other language although not personal hands on
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  • [06:43:34] <jimmyhoughjr> TI basic was my first, the to GW basic and QBasic
  • [06:43:52] <m_billybob> im rusty in most except C, and javascript. although im not a javascript guru either
  • [06:44:04] <jimmyhoughjr> then i went to vb, but .net frustrated me so i quit for a long time
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  • [06:44:29] <jimmyhoughjr> but then I wanted to develop for the ipad, so i learned some OOP and Objective-C
  • [06:44:29] <m_billybob> .net is so easy, but honestly NOdejs could easily eclipse .NET
  • [06:44:58] <jimmyhoughjr> i didnt know much oop then, and when they took my winsock control it pissed me off
  • [06:45:20] <m_billybob> Nodejs, the libraries included are very robust and can achieve many thigns peopel migth do with .NET. except its a bit different
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  • [06:45:27] <jimmyhoughjr> is it normal for node to take up most of the cpu on the beaglebone black?
  • [06:45:33] <m_billybob> no
  • [06:45:45] <jimmyhoughjr> could it be from cloud9 ?
  • [06:45:59] <m_billybob> what OS are you most familiar with ?
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  • [06:46:15] <m_billybob> i have a reason for asking . . .
  • [06:46:36] <jimmyhoughjr> programming? iOS, then MacOS
  • [06:46:50] <m_billybob> jimmyhoughjr, thats aloaded question though i couldnt say you'd have ot examine top
  • [06:46:50] <jimmyhoughjr> ive used debian for linux a lot but im not an expert
  • [06:46:55] <m_billybob> no i mean gernal usage
  • [06:47:05] <jimmyhoughjr> yeah i looked at top, thats how i saw
  • [06:47:19] <jimmyhoughjr> idk I guess OS X
  • [06:47:20] <m_billybob> Id consider building your own image from scratch or with RCN's help
  • [06:47:36] <jimmyhoughjr> the bone is running the latest debian
  • [06:47:37] <m_billybob> and only including what you need/ want
  • [06:47:58] <jimmyhoughjr> eventually I will, im using this to prototype some automated control stuff
  • [06:48:20] <jimmyhoughjr> i had wanted to learn some ruby and use ruby on rails
  • [06:48:21] <m_billybob> those images are meant for demo purposes though not so much as production
  • [06:48:40] <m_billybob> they have al oad of crap on them
  • [06:48:43] <jimmyhoughjr> but node is a lot faster to tinker with it seems
  • [06:48:53] <jimmyhoughjr> you done any tdd?
  • [06:48:58] <jimmyhoughjr> or bdd?
  • [06:49:04] <m_billybob> well ive built my own images
  • [06:49:16] <m_billybob> and with node these images are tiny by comparrison
  • [06:49:23] <m_billybob> less than 200M in size
  • [06:49:32] <m_billybob> tdd as in test driven devekopment ?
  • [06:49:35] <m_billybob> no idea what bdd is
  • [06:49:49] <m_billybob> development*
  • [06:50:36] <jimmyhoughjr> bdd is behavior driven development
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  • [06:50:56] <jimmyhoughjr> I didnt do much of it, but a UAT framework we used at work was meant for it
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  • [06:52:07] <jimmyhoughjr> I ask about tdd because id like a good framework for it with node
  • [06:52:41] <jimmyhoughjr> and id LOVE a mocking framework
  • [06:53:46] <jimmyhoughjr> hmm seems there is JsMockito i might check that out
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  • [06:56:37] <m_billybob> check out whats it
  • [06:56:51] <m_billybob> there are testintg frameworks for javascript
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  • [06:57:08] <m_billybob> tutsonline ?
  • [06:57:22] <m_billybob> forget the site name thes youngin's over there seem to love Nodejs
  • [06:57:27] <m_billybob> tutsplus
  • [06:58:38] <m_billybob> http://tutsplus.com/ so some of these are pay some are free but if you browse their lsit you should be able to figure out various technoogies atleast to research
  • [06:59:02] <m_billybob> i want to say jasmine is one ? but im not sure
  • [07:00:18] <jimmyhoughjr> that sounds familliar, i think i heard the server guys talking about it at my old job
  • [07:00:35] <jimmyhoughjr> it might be an mvc framework though id have to look
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  • [07:05:12] <jimmyhoughjr> well i think its bedtime for me, good talking to you and im sure ill see you around
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  • [13:53:50] <kalpu> Hi, for Beagle-Bone-Black Kernel 3.2 it's possible to read analog inputs from file "/sys/xyz.../AIN0". Where can I get the source of this driver? For newer device tree kernels it's "bone-iio-helper", but for Kernel 3.2?
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  • [14:55:14] <ps06756> Hello, I am a undergrad with a lot of interest in linux kernel hacking and os development (like to work with low level stuff) and find your project interesting. Is there anyway in which I can contribute to your project.
  • [14:56:54] <ps06756> Hello, I am a undergrad with a lot of interest in linux kernel hacking and os development (like to work with low level stuff) and find your project interesting. Is there anyway in which I can contribute to your project.
  • [14:56:54] <ps06756> Hello, I am a undergrad with a lot of interest in linux kernel hacking and os development (like to work with low level stuff) and find your project interesting. Is there anyway in which I can contribute to your project.
  • [14:56:55] <ps06756> Hello, I am a undergrad with a lot of interest in linux kernel hacking and os development (like to work with low level stuff) and find your project interesting. Is there anyway in which I can contribute to your project.
  • [14:56:55] <ps06756> Hello, I am a undergrad with a lot of interest in linux kernel hacking and os development (like to work with low level stuff) and find your project interesting. Is there anyway in which I can contribute to your project.
  • [14:56:55] <ps06756> Hello, I am a undergrad with a lot of interest in linux kernel hacking and os development (like to work with low level stuff) and find your project interesting. Is there anyway in which I can contribute to your project.
  • [14:56:55] <ps06756> Hello, I am a undergrad with a lot of interest in linux kernel hacking and os development (like to work with low level stuff) and find your project interesting. Is there anyway in which I can contribute to your project.
  • [14:56:56] <ps06756> Hello, I am a undergrad with a lot of interest in linux kernel hacking and os development (like to work with low level stuff) and find your project interesting. Is there anyway in which I can contribute to your project.
  • [14:56:56] <ps06756> Hello, I am a undergrad with a lot of interest in linux kernel hacking and os development (like to work with low level stuff) and find your project interesting. Is there anyway in which I can contribute to your project.
  • [14:57:39] <mashiara> cat sat on your keyboard ?
  • [14:58:00] <ps06756> what do you mean ?
  • [14:58:43] <mashiara> same message repeated 10 times or so...
  • [14:58:52] <mashiara> that is not a way to make friends here
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  • [15:00:21] <mashiara> I guess people are having all kinds of trouble with PRU, if you can grok it and write good instructions (or just those that are having the trouble) then I’m sure many would be grateful
  • [15:00:39] <jimmyhoughjr> this is weird. not even running anything node and node.js are taking 100% of my cpu :(
  • [15:01:06] <ps06756> Nobody was replying, so I spammed it. Anyways, sorry for that
  • [15:01:27] <mashiara> it’s all hallows eve, maybe people have other place to be...
  • [15:02:25] <mashiara> ditto for friday. I have no life but that doesn’t mean everyone is like that...
  • [15:02:35] <jimmyhoughjr> any ideas? people have said its not normal for node to be maxing the cpu when just botted
  • [15:02:56] <ps06756> ok
  • [15:03:20] <jimmyhoughjr> hmm well it finally wnet back fown to around 10&
  • [15:03:30] <mashiara> jimmy: no idea… #beagle-bonescript would be a better place for node questions
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  • [16:03:19] <mkad> how to enable SPI on Debian?
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  • [16:06:15] <mashiara> mkad: which board and which debian ?
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  • [16:14:00] <Zephyr1139> #fedora
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  • [16:21:44] <mkad> mashiara, BBB rev C, Debian jessie
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  • [16:23:06] <mashiara> I guess by loading a cape... http://elinux.org/BeagleBone_Black_Enable_SPIDEV#SPI0
  • [16:23:24] <mashiara> https://learn.adafruit.com/introduction-to-the-beaglebone-black-device-tree/overview
  • [16:23:42] <mashiara> but I've only done it on Ubuntu Trusty
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  • [16:41:40] <mkad> mashiara, thanks
  • [16:42:05] <mkad> mashiara, seems like SPI0 is enabled after getting patched dtc I wonder why Debian does not have new dtc
  • [16:42:17] <mkad> mashiara, now next step to check if it works;/
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  • [16:51:03] <mkad> hmm nothing
  • [16:52:24] <mashiara> see that it did not get exported as spidev1 (I had that problem, never figured out how to fix it)
  • [16:52:48] <mashiara> also had some trouble with loading the cape automatically on boot, so try loading it manually
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  • [17:06:47] <vncm> is anyone using beagleboard xm with ubuntu 14.04.1 with kernel version: 3.17.1-armv7-x3?
  • [17:07:05] <vncm> i cant access the gpio anymore, i was using the gpio157 with ubuntu 12.10 kernel version 3.7.10-x3
  • [17:07:17] <vncm> i updated to kernel version: 3.17.1-armv7-x3
  • [17:07:29] <vncm> still the same problem, echo high > /sys/class/gpio157/direction isnt setting the pin to high :/
  • [17:07:31] <jkridner> vncm: I think I saw your post on the mailing list.
  • [17:07:43] <jkridner> anything in 'dmesg' log?
  • [17:07:50] <jkridner> what happens when you do the export?
  • [17:08:16] <jkridner> ie. echo 137 > /sys/class/gpio/export
  • [17:08:17] <vncm> it creates the pin
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  • [17:08:19] <vncm> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Jan 1 2000 gpio157 -> ../../devices/virtual/gpio/gpio157/
  • [17:08:25] <vncm> it was before
  • [17:08:31] <vncm> and now looks like this
  • [17:08:32] <jkridner> that's just a symlink
  • [17:08:41] <vncm> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Oct 31 18:05 gpio157 -> ../../devices/68000000.ocp/49058000.gpio/gpio/gpio157/
  • [17:08:49] <vncm> i know
  • [17:09:00] <jkridner> I mean, does 'dmesg' say anything?
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  • [17:09:28] <jkridner> did you check the pinmux?
  • [17:09:41] <jkridner> is there a chance something else is muxed to the pin?
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  • [17:10:10] <jkridner> do you have /sys/kernel/debug/(something about pinmux)?
  • [17:10:24] <vncm> let me check that :)
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  • [17:12:28] <mkad> jkridner, do 3.17 support overlays ?
  • [17:13:34] <jkridner> mkad: not typically. I think 3.17 (or perhaps it wasn't until 3.18?) has base overlay support, but no cape manager yet. so, someone would have needed to patch it to add cape manager.
  • [17:14:03] <jkridner> it is called 'changesets' instead of 'overlays' now. https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/7/23/756
  • [17:15:45] <vncm> yes there is /sys/kernel/debug/pinctrl/ and here is whats inside http://pastebin.com/uJBw5qPf
  • [17:16:08] <sarangi> hello i am new to beagle.Can anyone help me out.
  • [17:16:26] <jkridner> looks like it was just this month: https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=7941b27b16e3282f6ec8817e36492f1deec753a7
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  • [17:17:05] <jkridner> ah, part of it went into 3.17: https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=201c910bd6898d81d4ac6685d0f421b7e10f3c5d
  • [17:17:17] <jkridner> sarangi: don't ask to ask. please read the topic.
  • [17:17:56] <sarangi> ok.thanks anyways @jkridner
  • [17:17:59] <jkridner> vncm: I need to run to lunch. I suggest you figure out which pin is yours and see if the mux mode is 7 (last 3 bits all 1's)
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  • [17:18:35] <vncm> ok i will try
  • [17:18:36] <vncm> thanks
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  • [18:33:20] <ashutos> Board have Older image."Older software images require you to EJECT the BEAGLE_BONE drive to start the network. With the latest software image, that step is no longer required."what it meant?
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  • [23:45:09] <muniza> hello all. Does anyone know where I can find the recipe for the angstrom image that was used way back with the 3.8.13 kernel?
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