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  • [08:10:54] <tasslehoff> Latest finding from my mmc woes is that I don't have a DTO of 14, like you guys :)
  • [08:11:57] <tasslehoff> I use 2.6.39 from sakoman, and that computes and sets a DTO of 11. That *has* to be the issue. I'm sure of it...
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  • [09:49:14] <Nicovski> Hi everyone
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  • [10:02:57] <Nicovski> I would like to know if someone has already used the beaglebone to display ASCII on several epapers. I'm an engineering student, doing my internship, and i discovered the beaglebone 1 month ago. I've found the way to create an image that the EPD is able to display, i've programmed something doing this stuff, something that drives a relay with GPIO to reduce the consumption, but I can't find the way to display on more than one displa
  • [10:06:09] <Nicovski> If someone is interested by my work, I would obviously be please to share what i've already done.
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  • [11:19:12] <maquefel> guys
  • [11:19:25] <maquefel> who can recommend soldering paste for appliyng by hand?
  • [11:19:46] <_av500_> the grey one tastes best
  • [11:19:51] <maquefel> for use with air gun
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  • [12:14:34] <ion> av500: The one with lead? Yeah, it has a nice flavor.
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  • [12:46:07] <cityoflights2> av500 is does the gpio support the event file descriptor?
  • [12:46:27] <cityoflights2> and if so is there a epoll ready function to use from python?
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  • [13:07:13] <_av500_> cityoflights2: I dont know
  • [13:08:08] <cityoflights2> In the raspberry pi there is RPIO which includes epoll support for the gpio
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  • [13:10:04] <alexanderhiam> cityoflights2: PyBBIO has epoll based gpio edge interrupts
  • [13:10:52] <alexanderhiam> cityoflights2: https://github.com/alexanderhiam/PyBBIO/wiki/Interrupts
  • [13:12:14] <cityoflights2> thanks
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  • [13:43:25] <demeteor> hello
  • [13:43:48] <demeteor> I have a small problem with BBB it always load by its self pwm_test_P9_14.16 and 2 other of those
  • [13:44:36] <tbr-fi> reinstall a clean image?
  • [13:44:36] <demeteor> I tried different methods as changing kernels, or trying to see if anything from systemctl starts it but nothing to be found
  • [13:44:53] <demeteor> is there a way for this to be avoided ?
  • [13:45:09] <demeteor> I have lots of configuraitons that I must not loose
  • [13:45:28] <tbr-fi> yes, you can manually dig through your filesystem and logs to see what is happening
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  • [13:46:07] <demeteor> I have checked systemclt nothing seems to be starting it automatically . anything you suggest to look on ?
  • [13:46:11] <demeteor> I am not very good with linux
  • [13:46:27] <tbr-fi> are you using a cape with your BBB?
  • [13:46:47] <demeteor> yes a custom made one
  • [13:46:55] <tbr-fi> does it have an eeprom?
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  • [13:47:39] <demeteor> no it does not
  • [13:47:58] <demeteor> I think so. though . we dont need such a thing. and its not connected atm
  • [13:48:50] <tbr-fi> then check when those overlays are loaded
  • [13:49:17] <demeteor> what I see in systemctl is that some services access ocp.3
  • [13:49:31] <demeteor> let me paste whataccess it in pastebin
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  • [13:50:28] <demeteor> http://pastebin.com/eg9NZRFA
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  • [13:51:43] <demeteor> those as well : http://pastebin.com/TZWy6ELK
  • [13:52:56] <tbr-fi> that doesn't help. you'll have to look at dmesg and or journalctl
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  • [13:56:22] <demeteor> okay I found the pwm loadings in dmesg http://pastebin.com/wau7AKa5
  • [13:56:32] <demeteor> but I cant understand anything from it
  • [13:57:07] <demeteor> also journalctl does not exist as a command
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  • [14:04:31] <demeteor> tbr-fi: it seems like i must install a fresh image. cheers anyway dude thanks a lot =)
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  • [14:10:06] <tbr-fi> wonder what this cape-bone-proto-00A0.dtbo was on his image
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  • [14:39:24] <mani_> hi
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  • [14:41:20] <yapatel> anyone have experience using the McASP on the beaglebone black?
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  • [14:42:03] <yapatel> anyone have experience using the McASP on the beaglebone black?
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  • [14:51:38] <Ankur> does anyone know if beaglebone yocto project support kernel3.8 or not ?
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  • [14:52:51] <_av500_> you should ask #yocto
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  • [14:55:24] <zump> My BBB suddenly fails to boot from microSD. What could be the problem?
  • [14:56:46] <_av500_> sd card dead
  • [14:56:50] <_av500_> they do that
  • [14:58:38] <zump> _av500_: so one way to avoid is use eMMC?
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  • [16:00:11] <ragnar76> hi all. regarding to this pinout here (http://www.alexanderhiam.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/beaglebone_pinout.png) what tty device is serial5?
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  • [16:10:13] <thews-work> so I think I fried my element14 BBB now
  • [16:10:50] <thews-work> I was using the same power adapter that fried my other BBB, that's all I can guess is the culprit, but I definitely don't know what to think
  • [16:11:11] <tbr> is it the cheap chinese kind?
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  • [16:11:25] <thews-work> yes
  • [16:11:39] <thews-work> made in china 5v 2.5A AC/DC wall plug
  • [16:12:03] <thews-work> after it fried it, it doesn't really matter what else I test it with... damage is already done
  • [16:12:38] * tbr would avoid the very cheap kind
  • [16:12:51] <thews-work> I don't think it was excessively cheap, I think I got it on amazon prime
  • [16:13:02] <thews-work> but I won't be using that again if I can get these boards fixed
  • [16:13:11] <thews-work> have to RMA one to beagle hospital and contact element14 I guess
  • [16:13:19] <thews-work> definitely a bummer
  • [16:13:39] <thews-work> had my linuxcnc setup up and working, shut it down, went over to start it back up earlier and did the same thing the old one did
  • [16:13:44] <tbr> with those wallplugs I'd test them and look at the voltage with a multimeter and oscilloscope first
  • [16:14:02] <thews-work> don't have an oscilloscope, but I can just use a vreg and bring the voltage down from now on
  • [16:14:16] <tbr> might be the better choice
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  • [16:14:17] <thews-work> from my machine PSU
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  • [16:14:42] <nyt-> youre not like
  • [16:14:44] <thews-work> nothing else could have fried it. I had it mounted this time nothing near it
  • [16:14:44] <nyt-> putting power to pins
  • [16:14:46] <nyt-> when the bbb is off
  • [16:14:47] <nyt-> are you?
  • [16:14:51] <thews-work> no
  • [16:14:54] <tbr> throw in a capacitor on the 5V side to smooth things
  • [16:15:27] <brycebaril> So I'm having an issue with my BBB where the P8 & P9 headers stopped working (no voltage produced) still boots and runs fine. Re-flashed the emmc and it does the same thing. Anyone seen something like this?
  • [16:15:30] <thews-work> tbr-fi: I do when I do a vreg
  • [16:15:38] <tbr> *nod*
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  • [16:22:33] <thews-work> welp guess I'll run to the post office and get my old BBB sent off. :(
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  • [17:02:08] <thews-work> so my d-link 5v 3amp adapter shows 4.9v
  • [17:02:20] <thews-work> the one I was using that I assume fried both boards was a little over 5.5v
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  • [17:03:32] <tbr> IIRC the SRM says 5.1V is max
  • [17:03:51] <thews-work> yeah
  • [17:04:05] <tbr> 5.5V idle might still be ok if it drops to 5V under load
  • [17:04:45] <thews-work> not sure what it was doing, when I twisted the cheap one it dropped off sometimes, like bad contact in the connector or wire or something possibly as well
  • [17:04:49] <thews-work> I'm sure that doesn't help any
  • [17:06:02] <stt_michael> nope
  • [17:06:22] <stt_michael> 5.5V is definitely 10%
  • [17:06:45] <stt_michael> 1% is better :D
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  • [17:07:45] <thews-work> I'll solder together a protoboard later so when I get another new one I'll keep it regulated well
  • [17:07:49] <thews-work> and hope that's my only issue
  • [17:08:02] <thews-work> can't be burning up a BBB a week
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  • [17:16:21] <stt_michael> uhno.
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  • [17:16:39] <stt_michael> And LDO will probably take that 5.5V and regulate to 5V
  • [17:16:41] <stt_michael> an*
  • [17:16:52] <stt_michael> although perhaps not at 2A output :D
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  • [17:51:40] <stt_michael> !seen mrpackethead
  • [17:51:43] <stt_michael> :/
  • [17:51:45] <stt_michael> ok home time
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  • [17:52:39] <Shiv> I'm trying to install CherryPy on BeagleBone Black.
  • [17:52:43] <Ardit> Any good link with instruction on how to install cherrypy to beaglebone black?
  • [17:53:46] <Shiv> http://aquaticus.info/beaglebone-web-led
  • [17:55:50] <Ardit> I did try this link but i get an error: Traceback (most recent call last): File "setup.py", line 12, in <module> from distutils.core import setup File "/usr/lib/python2.7/distutils/core.py", line 20, in <module> from distutils.dist import Distribution File "/usr/lib/python2.7/distutils/dist.py", line 10, in <module> from email import message_from_file ImportError: No module named email
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  • [17:56:11] <Ardit> Anyone else know a better way
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  • [20:12:16] <kinkazu> hi there
  • [20:12:44] <kinkazu> has anyone tried to enable can0 on Linux arm 3.8.13-bone60
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  • [20:13:28] <kinkazu> anyone knows how to safely disable i2c2 on Linux arm 3.8.13-bone60?
  • [20:14:07] <honestly> kinkazu: can drivers are not included in most stock kernels
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  • [20:14:29] <kinkazu> i va eit owrking fine
  • [20:14:35] <kinkazu> i have it working fine
  • [20:14:38] <kinkazu> but
  • [20:14:39] <honestly> oh, good then
  • [20:14:48] <kinkazu> the way i disable i2c2 is wrong
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  • [20:14:56] <kinkazu> have got timeout on i2c2
  • [20:15:08] <kinkazu> and bbb reboots
  • [20:15:23] <kinkazu> so it does work but only for a while
  • [20:15:29] <kinkazu> candump show data from can
  • [20:15:43] <kinkazu> there is guide how to enable can0
  • [20:15:51] <kinkazu> http://www.embedded-things.com/bbb/enable-canbus-on-the-beaglebone-black/
  • [20:16:01] <kinkazu> but this is for bone 38
  • [20:16:28] <kinkazu> there is a different dtbs structure in bone 60
  • [20:16:52] <kinkazu> and it looks like board can live without i2c2
  • [20:17:01] <kinkazu> can't
  • [20:17:35] <kinkazu> i don't won't to revert to bone 38
  • [20:17:51] <honestly> I'm no specialist but the only thing I can think of is that some of the peripherals on the board are connected via i2c2
  • [20:17:52] <kinkazu> would like to have it working on the newest
  • [20:18:05] <kinkazu> yes
  • [20:18:07] <honestly> are the can pins multiplexed on i2c2 pins?
  • [20:18:10] <kinkazu> seems to be the case
  • [20:18:12] <kinkazu> but
  • [20:18:17] <kinkazu> if it works on bone38
  • [20:18:22] <kinkazu> why problem on 60
  • [20:18:33] <kinkazu> hardware doesn't change
  • [20:18:47] <honestly> yeah, no clue, sorry
  • [20:18:57] <kinkazu> will fight
  • [20:19:11] <kinkazu> was hoping somebody already did that
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  • [20:19:28] <kinkazu> in worst case scenario will go back to 38
  • [20:19:43] <honestly> give it some time, people in here aren't around 24/7
  • [20:19:55] <kinkazu> :D
  • [20:19:57] <honestly> someone may understand your issue better than me
  • [20:19:57] <kinkazu> yes
  • [20:19:59] <kinkazu> will wait
  • [20:20:10] <kinkazu> and try to find something on the web
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  • [20:28:10] <jedahan> any reason why my tl-wn722n doesn't show up in dmesg?
  • [20:29:59] <kinkazu> no idea
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  • [20:53:01] <kinkazu> hi veremi
  • [20:53:03] <kinkazu> t
  • [20:53:05] <kinkazu> :D
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  • [20:59:40] <veremit> yeelo
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  • [21:04:38] <Sargun> This device requires a UART: https://www.adafruit.com/products/1697
  • [21:04:56] <Sargun> Does this seem easy enough to interrface with the beaglebone
  • [21:07:40] <tbr> the markings look like SPI, not UART
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  • [21:10:13] <kinkazu> has anybody removed successfuly i2c2 from BBB am335x-boneblack.dtb?
  • [21:10:26] <kinkazu> i mean so no problems are flagged up like
  • [21:10:54] <kinkazu> [ 0.139596] omap_i2c 4819c000.i2c: did not get pins for i2c error: -19 [ 0.139914] omap_i2c 4819c000.i2c: bus 1 rev0.11 at 100 kHz [ 0.141331] omap_i2c 4819c000.i2c: unable to select pin group [ 1.520015] omap_i2c 4819c000.i2c: controller timed out [ 2.527840] omap_i2c 4819c000.i2c: controller timed out [ 3.535632] omap_i2c 4819c000.i2c: controller timed out [ 4.543592] omap_i2c 4819c000.i2c: controller timed out
  • [21:11:02] <Sargun> tbr: in the spec it says: It works by simulating a UART device beneath the surface, sending ASCII data back and forth between the devices, letting you decide what data to send and what to do with it on either end of the connection.
  • [21:11:57] <notserpe> kinkazu: pastbin, dawg.
  • [21:12:14] <kinkazu> I did what was described here
  • [21:12:15] <kinkazu> http://www.embedded-things.com/bbb/enable-canbus-on-the-beaglebone-black/
  • [21:12:20] <tbr> Sargun: that's on the BLE side
  • [21:13:24] <kinkazu> dmesg wyrzuca to
  • [21:13:25] <kinkazu> http://pastebin.com/L0BLMwYR
  • [21:13:33] <kinkazu> dmesg output
  • [21:13:35] <kinkazu> :D
  • [21:13:45] <kinkazu> first time pastbinning
  • [21:14:11] <veremit> kinkazu .. was it you doin something witha zillion uarts?
  • [21:14:17] <kinkazu> board restarts for no reason when can0 is enabled
  • [21:14:23] <kinkazu> works, but board restarts
  • [21:14:30] <kinkazu> I assume that is the problem
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  • [21:14:44] <kinkazu> i would like to enable can0
  • [21:14:57] <kinkazu> for that need to free i2c2 pins
  • [21:15:00] <kinkazu> but
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  • [21:15:18] <kinkazu> http://www.embedded-things.com/bbb/enable-canbus-on-the-beaglebone-black/
  • [21:15:24] <kinkazu> what is described here
  • [21:15:42] <kinkazu> allows can0 work, but boards restarts after a while
  • [21:15:49] <kinkazu> when in use
  • [21:16:09] <kinkazu> i think that if i remove i2c2 entirely
  • [21:16:11] <kinkazu> it might work
  • [21:16:20] <kinkazu> can use can1 as I use uart1
  • [21:16:26] <kinkazu> and they share pins
  • [21:16:31] <Sargun> tbr: You're right, it is SPI
  • [21:16:59] <Sargun> The physical ACI interface on nRF8001 consists of five pins. All ACI data exchanges use a standard SPI
  • [21:17:02] <Sargun> interface, with nRF8001 using a mode 0 slave interface to the application controller.
  • [21:17:04] <kinkazu> can't use can1 I meant
  • [21:18:12] <kinkazu> need can0, but how to get rid off i2c2, who knows
  • [21:19:07] <kinkazu> shared pins between cans and uarts and i2c is really painfull design
  • [21:19:36] <veremit> nobody anticipated you'd want to use all of them simultaneously :p
  • [21:19:37] <kinkazu> unless it can be done :D and i2c2 can be disabled
  • [21:19:41] <veremit> its an Option :P hehe
  • [21:19:42] <kinkazu> :D
  • [21:19:51] <veremit> either/or
  • [21:19:52] <veremit> :P
  • [21:19:58] <kinkazu> that is the last one I need
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  • [21:20:28] <kinkazu> 4 uarts working, i2c1 working
  • [21:20:31] <kinkazu> i need can0
  • [21:20:48] <kinkazu> hdmi working
  • [21:20:57] <kinkazu> uart5 not used
  • [21:21:23] <kinkazu> do you think it is possible?
  • [21:21:30] <kinkazu> disable i2c2?
  • [21:21:42] <kinkazu> but properly?
  • [21:21:59] <veremit> should be .. dtbs?!
  • [21:22:06] <kinkazu> yes
  • [21:22:15] <kinkazu> but whatever I do
  • [21:22:26] <kinkazu> results in
  • [21:22:30] <kinkazu> not booting
  • [21:22:32] <kinkazu> or
  • [21:22:39] <kinkazu> http://pastebin.com/L0BLMwYR
  • [21:22:45] <kinkazu> timeout
  • [21:22:55] <kinkazu> like something wants it to work
  • [21:23:00] <kinkazu> and then reboot
  • [21:23:11] <kinkazu> after sometime of using can0
  • [21:23:51] <veremit> better check through dependencies
  • [21:24:01] <kinkazu> easy to say
  • [21:24:06] <kinkazu> i am not a programmer
  • [21:24:11] <kinkazu> or electrnic engineer
  • [21:24:24] <kinkazu> just clever enough to do what is on the internet
  • [21:24:47] <kinkazu> and this is impossible to find
  • [21:25:14] <kinkazu> usually I do hundreads of test and at some point I find slution
  • [21:25:23] <kinkazu> but playing with dtbs
  • [21:25:53] <kinkazu> is kind of painful as it often results with not booting board
  • [21:26:32] <kinkazu> will wait here for a while
  • [21:26:42] <kinkazu> maybe some kind of guru appears
  • [21:26:46] <kinkazu> :D
  • [21:26:59] <kinkazu> and will send me dts
  • [21:27:05] <kinkazu> to compile
  • [21:27:31] <kinkazu> or dtb
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  • [21:28:24] <kinkazu> omap_i2c 4819c000.i2c: did not get pins for i2c error: -19
  • [21:28:39] <kinkazu> yeah, because I commented them
  • [21:28:59] <kinkazu> just go away you you i2c2
  • [21:29:05] <kinkazu> :)
  • [21:30:49] <kinkazu> When the BeagleBone boots it looks to see if it has any capes attached by searching for EEPROM's on the I2C2 bus. If an EEPROM on this bus contains the proper data, it will trigger the BeagleBone to automatically load a Device Tree overlay.
  • [21:31:03] <kinkazu> that is the problem
  • [21:31:10] <kinkazu> i don't want him to do this
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  • [21:34:19] <veremit> oh
  • [21:34:25] <veremit> you wanna disable the capemgr :p
  • [21:34:36] <veremit> entirely.
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  • [21:36:36] <kinkazu> yes
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  • [21:37:34] <kinkazu> want to get rid of entirely
  • [21:37:50] <veremit> better go explore the kernel sources
  • [21:38:07] <kinkazu> yes
  • [21:38:16] <kinkazu> that is probably the answer
  • [21:38:26] <kinkazu> might be too difficult for me
  • [21:38:29] <kinkazu> but
  • [21:38:34] <kinkazu> needs to be done
  • [21:38:39] <veremit> you'll probably get some advice here
  • [21:38:45] <kinkazu> found something similar for different board
  • [21:38:54] <kinkazu> only you
  • [21:38:57] <kinkazu> seem to be here
  • [21:39:04] <kinkazu> :D
  • [21:39:07] <kinkazu> get life
  • [21:39:09] <kinkazu> hehehehe
  • [21:39:10] <veremit> people come .. people go .. :p
  • [21:39:19] <kinkazu> veremit: stays
  • [21:39:32] <veremit> no I just visit frequently
  • [21:39:42] <kinkazu> found something like that
  • [21:39:44] <kinkazu> https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromiumos/overlays/board-overlays.git/+/015064d9dffee0fa179d847987e87fd3d85f16f6/overlay-beagleboard/chromeos-base/kernel/files/kernel-0.0.1/chromiumos/disable-i2c2.patch
  • [21:40:06] <kinkazu> so somebody has done it in kernel
  • [21:40:25] <kinkazu> on the beagleboard
  • [21:40:30] <kinkazu> which might be similar
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  • [21:43:56] <kinkazu> ok
  • [21:44:01] <kinkazu> i am in :D
  • [21:44:21] <kinkazu> /KERNEL/arch/arm/mach-omap2# vi mux.c
  • [21:44:40] <kinkazu> lets see if there is anything siliar
  • [21:46:43] <kinkazu> not even a word i2c
  • [21:46:46] <kinkazu> :(
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  • [21:51:32] <kinkazu> there is one victim though
  • [21:51:39] <kinkazu> /bb-kernel/KERNEL/arch/arm/mach-omap2# vi board-omap3beagle.c
  • [21:52:24] <kinkazu> Initial code: Syed Mohammed Khasim
  • [21:52:27] <kinkazu> :D
  • [21:52:42] <kinkazu> need to find him
  • [21:52:42] <kinkazu> :D
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  • [22:04:16] <veremit> homing in :)
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  • [22:07:26] <kinkazu> too difficult
  • [22:07:37] <kinkazu> who is the best to ask
  • [22:07:43] <kinkazu> about problem I have got?
  • [22:07:53] <kinkazu> i am sure kernel change is needed
  • [22:07:58] <kinkazu> as you said
  • [22:08:02] <kinkazu> agree with you
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  • [22:09:21] <veremit> just hang in here and hope .. there are a few ppl that I've come across that can probably point you closer in
  • [22:09:57] <veremit> can't name names though
  • [22:10:58] <kinkazu> i will repeat endlessly
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  • [22:29:34] <kinkazu> anybody has ever edited board-omap3beagle.c?
  • [22:31:53] <ds2> do it all the time :D
  • [22:33:18] <kinkazu> :D
  • [22:33:26] <kinkazu> you are the man I am looking for
  • [22:33:27] <kinkazu> :D
  • [22:33:40] <kinkazu> can you help me disbling entirely i2c2?
  • [22:33:49] <kinkazu> I guess that is the file that needs to be changed
  • [22:33:56] <kinkazu> I am using beagleboone black
  • [22:34:03] <kinkazu> beaglebone
  • [22:34:05] <kinkazu> :D
  • [22:34:16] <kinkazu> can pay
  • [22:34:17] <kinkazu> :D
  • [22:34:36] <kinkazu> for your time
  • [22:34:45] <ds2> where are you?
  • [22:34:46] <kinkazu> i need can0
  • [22:34:51] <kinkazu> united kingdom
  • [22:35:01] <ds2> find someone local
  • [22:35:06] <ds2> easier that way
  • [22:35:11] <kinkazu> world is local
  • [22:35:12] <kinkazu> :D
  • [22:35:33] <kinkazu> can try myself
  • [22:35:41] <kinkazu> if you point me to the right direction
  • [22:36:02] <kinkazu> is board-omap3beagle.c the right file to edit?
  • [22:36:33] <kinkazu> there is omap3_beagle_i2c_init(); in it
  • [22:36:50] <kinkazu> but i guess commenting this line wont do much
  • [22:36:50] <kinkazu> :D
  • [22:39:31] <kinkazu> so is it the right file?
  • [22:40:41] <kinkazu> it is important to know
  • [22:40:56] <kinkazu> i can then start at least something
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  • [22:42:12] <ds2> the problem is your offer to pay will cost more to accept then it is worth
  • [22:42:45] <ds2> you can do it many ways
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  • [22:47:16] <kinkazu> don't understand
  • [22:47:17] <kinkazu> :D
  • [22:47:56] <kinkazu> I will try to do this myself of course and ask on google groups
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  • [22:48:31] <kinkazu> but I am willing to send money through paypal as I am lazy
  • [22:48:32] <kinkazu> ;D
  • [22:48:59] <kinkazu> n really but it might take me weeks
  • [22:49:06] <kinkazu> and my time is valuable
  • [22:50:29] <kinkazu> $100?
  • [22:50:46] <kinkazu> I don;t really know what I am talking about :D
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  • [22:59:34] <D15> Hi, the beagle black consumption is about 350mA at 5v. If I have a 7000mAh battery does it mean it will last 20 hours?
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  • [23:00:42] <Decessus> If the battery is 5v
  • [23:00:52] <D15> yeah it will be
  • [23:01:22] <Decessus> Also, it will be a little more/less depending on usage and number of charge cycles the battery has been through etc
  • [23:01:32] <Decessus> But, in a perfect world, yes ;p
  • [23:02:04] <D15> haha, I guess all specifications are written in the perfect world assumption
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  • [23:07:24] <veremit> I wouldn't assume an average of 350mA
  • [23:07:31] <veremit> thats more like a minimum
  • [23:07:56] <D15> okay
  • [23:08:58] <veremit> ie. doin nothing and no peripherals
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  • [23:11:59] <veremit> 8-10hrs should be good
  • [23:12:53] <D15> oh okay
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  • [23:13:52] <veremit> might get a bit more .. but always better to err on caution :)
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  • [23:14:57] <veremit> depends very much on your application though :)
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  • [23:16:00] <D15> Yeah, are they planning on making a low power version of this ?
  • [23:16:57] <veremit> maybe you want to look at an arduino ;P
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  • [23:19:50] <ds2> paypal charges currency coversion fees and other crap
  • [23:19:59] <ds2> wire xfers costs a receive fee
  • [23:20:12] <kinkazu> it really doesn' matter mate
  • [23:20:13] <veremit> sender pays :P~ whats the big deal!?
  • [23:20:15] <kinkazu> :D
  • [23:20:16] <ds2> anything outside of the US is expensive to receive the money :(
  • [23:20:24] <ds2> receiver pays
  • [23:20:30] <kinkazu> money is not a problem
  • [23:20:31] <ds2> in my case it is receiver pays at least
  • [23:20:34] <veremit> wit paypal .. a small proportion
  • [23:20:35] <kinkazu> problem is i2c2
  • [23:20:36] <kinkazu> :D
  • [23:20:50] <kinkazu> and to be honest
  • [23:20:53] <ds2> I tried working outside of hte US and it is just been trouble so no mroe
  • [23:21:00] <kinkazu> i dont even know if that is the problem
  • [23:21:02] <kinkazu> in reality
  • [23:21:14] <kinkazu> board restarts when i download big file over uart1 and modem
  • [23:21:23] <kinkazu> and while can0 is enabled
  • [23:21:24] <kinkazu> :D
  • [23:21:31] <kinkazu> no problem
  • [23:21:33] <kinkazu> when disabled
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  • [23:21:45] <kinkazu> i am like a child in a fog
  • [23:21:46] <kinkazu> :D
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  • [23:21:59] <veremit> we noticed ... :p
  • [23:22:02] <kinkazu> i cant see any relationship
  • [23:22:05] <kinkazu> :D
  • [23:22:12] <kinkazu> you are so cruel
  • [23:22:13] <kinkazu> :D
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  • [23:23:00] <kinkazu> 4exaple, right now i have cadump showing can data, mdem pinging no problem
  • [23:23:05] <ds2> what are you doing anways?
  • [23:23:11] <kinkazu> i start wget some 100mb file
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  • [23:23:36] <kinkazu> multicape
  • [23:23:37] <kinkazu> :D
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  • [23:23:40] <kinkazu> for myself
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  • [23:23:42] <ds2> sigh
  • [23:23:46] <ds2> forget about the cape crap
  • [23:23:47] <kinkazu> all uarts
  • [23:23:54] <kinkazu> + can
  • [23:23:57] <ds2> just build a plain old expansion board
  • [23:23:57] <kinkazu> + hdmi
  • [23:24:02] <ds2> what version of the kernel?
  • [23:24:08] <veremit> buy a white :P lolol
  • [23:24:17] <kinkazu> Linux arm 3.8.13-bone60
  • [23:24:20] <kinkazu> debian
  • [23:24:21] <porzchop> Hi! I have a question about putting the BBB into sleep mode -- is there an easy way to get it to sleep for a predefined amount of time without adding an external RTC cape?
  • [23:24:28] <kinkazu> have got everything working
  • [23:24:28] <ds2> oh ewww debian
  • [23:24:31] <kinkazu> but it restarts
  • [23:24:35] <veremit> shup ds2 :P
  • [23:24:38] <veremit> its not ubuntu!
  • [23:24:47] <ds2> ubuntu would be EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
  • [23:24:48] <ds2> :P
  • [23:25:05] <kinkazu> silly when i download big file and when can0 is configured
  • [23:25:11] <veremit> debian is an improvement over angstrom
  • [23:25:22] <ds2> angstrom is more usable
  • [23:25:34] <veremit> I disagree
  • [23:25:35] <ds2> not exactly a fan of angstrom but at least it is less broken then debian
  • [23:25:39] <veremit> and most of the packages are OLDER than debian!
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  • [23:26:21] <kinkazu> have no logs anwyhere
  • [23:26:26] <kinkazu> about what is causing that
  • [23:26:27] <kinkazu> hmm
  • [23:26:34] <ds2> it isn't old or not
  • [23:26:42] <ds2> it is about knowing exactly what you have
  • [23:26:58] <ds2> and not getting your ass thrown in the furnance for GPL reasons
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  • [23:27:29] <veremit> well depends a lot on your application and whether you're goin commercial :P
  • [23:27:39] <veremit> which never was an intention of the beagle project :P
  • [23:28:11] <veremit> debian is FAR easier to get into for the b00b
  • [23:28:14] <veremit> n000b#8 lol
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  • [23:29:03] <kinkazu> bbb has got a potential for being used in commercial prjects
  • [23:29:18] <kinkazu> thanks to flash
  • [23:29:18] <veremit> yes thats one problem that has caused supply issues
  • [23:29:39] <ds2> it is not about being commericial or not
  • [23:29:41] <kinkazu> but there are companies who supply in bulks
  • [23:29:48] <kinkazu> for commercial purpouses
  • [23:30:07] <kinkazu> dead again
  • [23:30:09] <kinkazu> damn
  • [23:30:15] <veremit> I don't see what the problem is with GPL ds2 ?
  • [23:30:17] <ds2> GPL doesn't care about commerical or not
  • [23:30:48] <ds2> if I give you a copy of my uSD card, I am on the hook to provide you with the exact sources I used for the GPL stuff if you so request it.
  • [23:30:55] <ds2> and if I don't know, that puts me in a bind.
  • [23:31:05] <veremit> well damn :P
  • [23:31:11] <veremit> you shuold be more organised lol
  • [23:31:12] <veremit> jk
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  • [23:31:20] <ds2> src debs are too easy to lose track of
  • [23:31:37] <veremit> it depends a lot on whether you release .. and support .. so ..
  • [23:31:48] <ds2> read the GPL
  • [23:32:00] <ds2> that is irrelevant. it comes into the play the moment it leaves my hands
  • [23:32:35] <veremit> again .. it depends whether that code leaves your house/office/bench/shed/etc.
  • [23:32:55] <kinkazu> so what is the easiest way to get rid off i2c2
  • [23:32:56] <veremit> since debs are precompiled .. I don't see where "sources" come into play tbh.
  • [23:32:57] <kinkazu> ?
  • [23:33:13] <veremit> kernel sources.. thats different
  • [23:33:28] <veremit> patches/etc .. you probably want to keep track of that for your own purposes.
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  • [23:34:06] <veremit> in this day/age its fairly commonplace to hold your code in some form of VCS
  • [23:34:09] <veremit> or DVCS
  • [23:34:38] <veremit> don't get me wrong .. I'm not saying there aren't issues and traps to fall into
  • [23:35:07] <kinkazu> what traps?
  • [23:35:29] <veremit> but look at what the beagle (and also the raspi) are aiming to achieve .. its a low cost entry-level board
  • [23:35:58] <veremit> its not a professional solution with support package/etc etc. (and the associated cost!)
  • [23:36:51] <ds2> read the GPL requirements
  • [23:37:05] <ds2> it is not sufficient for me to say I used foo bar's sources, go get it there
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  • [23:40:01] <veremit> I don't think the GPL is totally unique in that.. :)
  • [23:40:17] <ds2> hence the value of angstrom
  • [23:40:24] <ds2> it takes care of all that.
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  • [23:42:06] <kinkazu> it looks like my problem is not related to i2c2, if i don't do ifup can0, everything is as it should be
  • [23:42:25] <ds2> make sure there is no electrical conflicts
  • [23:42:46] <kinkazu> hmm
  • [23:43:18] <kinkazu> when modem does standard stuff
  • [23:43:23] <kinkazu> everything is fine
  • [23:43:36] <kinkazu> when working on maximum download
  • [23:43:40] <kinkazu> that it happens
  • [23:43:50] <ds2> check power
  • [23:43:57] <kinkazu> max speed and load
  • [23:44:00] <kinkazu> hmm
  • [23:44:03] <ds2> do you have enough of it?
  • [23:44:06] <kinkazu> 2A
  • [23:44:11] <kinkazu> but
  • [23:44:15] <kinkazu> will need tochek it
  • [23:44:16] <ds2> expansion board draws....
  • [23:44:18] <kinkazu> you ar eright
  • [23:45:08] <kinkazu> the only problem is
  • [23:45:18] <kinkazu> everything is powered up
  • [23:45:23] <kinkazu> the only differnce is
  • [23:45:27] <kinkazu> ifup can0
  • [23:45:37] <ds2> can transceiver suck a lot of juice
  • [23:45:53] <kinkazu> even if not working
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  • [23:46:01] <kinkazu> it has got power supply now
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  • [23:46:21] <kinkazu> and board restarts even if not scanning canbus
  • [23:46:24] <ds2> calculate the worse case power from all the datasheet
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  • [23:46:55] <kinkazu> board restarts even when i am not using it
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  • [23:47:03] <kinkazu> but
  • [23:47:11] <kinkazu> will check anyway
  • [23:47:15] <kinkazu> thank you
  • [23:47:21] <kinkazu> not using can
  • [23:47:32] <kinkazu> i meant, not the borad obviously
  • [23:47:37] <kinkazu> borad
  • [23:47:38] <kinkazu> :D
  • [23:47:40] <kinkazu> board
  • [23:47:41] <kinkazu> :D
  • [23:47:43] <kinkazu> tada
  • [23:47:59] <ds2> heh... I have seen that typo in committed code
  • [23:48:20] <kinkazu> :D
  • [23:48:32] <kinkazu> lying in the bed typing
  • [23:48:35] <kinkazu> not easy
  • [23:50:22] <kinkazu> so is it better to use angstrom in commercial projects?
  • [23:50:34] <ds2> when messing with expansion boards, it is best to always do the EE before hand
  • [23:50:40] <kinkazu> i didn't quite get what you were talking about
  • [23:50:42] <ds2> cuts down on dead stuff
  • [23:50:54] <ds2> it is better to use angstrom.
  • [23:51:21] <kinkazu> from the legal point of view?
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  • [23:52:42] <kinkazu> is it because i need to provide all source code if asked when I use debian?
  • [23:52:55] <ds2> read the license agreements yourself
  • [23:53:00] <kinkazu> :D
  • [23:53:03] <ds2> not a lawyer and don't play one
  • [23:53:18] <kinkazu> i didn't quite get what you were talking about
  • [23:53:21] <kinkazu> :D
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  • [23:58:02] <kinkazu> http://www.logicsupply.com/blog/2014/05/15/new-embest-board-opens-door-for-beaglebone-black-projects/
  • [23:58:49] <ds2> it is not that hard to build you own