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  • [00:00:24] * Set by KotH!~attila@lou-outside.kinali.ch on Fri Apr 18 13:56:18 UTC 2014
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  • [00:09:42] <chris37879> Anyone know of a way to connect the beaglebone black to an android device via OTG and not have it disable the device's network connection?
  • [00:10:02] <chris37879> Android sees the device as a network connection and routes all my traffic over that instead of my Wifi
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  • [00:28:21] <ddaysword> So, I have a BBB rev B and an atrix lapdock (pictures of the back and front at http://chinetti.me/bbb). The lapdocks native resolution is 1366x768, but the bbb is rejecting those modes.
  • [00:28:34] <ddaysword> Any idea why?
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  • [00:29:29] <ddaysword> It _does_ work at 1360x768, but that causes slight aliasing, which is the /worst!/
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  • [00:35:42] <ddaysword> Connection to chinetti.me closed.
  • [00:35:42] <ddaysword> alarm P F CHINETTI ~:
  • [00:35:43] <ddaysword> 450 > cat /proc/cmdline
  • [00:35:54] <ddaysword> well.
  • [00:36:05] <ddaysword> meant to paste my /proc/cmdline
  • [00:36:19] <ddaysword> but... I plugged in my mouse in between
  • [00:36:26] <ddaysword> console=ttyO0,115200n8 quiet drm.debug=7 capemgr.disable_partno=BB-BONELT-HDMI video=HDMI-A-1:1360x768MR@60 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rw rootfstype=ext4 rootwait fixrtc
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  • [00:53:15] <palesius> anyone have any idea how to disable/reenable usb host port (such that it will stop providing power to device) on the BBB through code/command line?
  • [01:05:26] <rcn-ee> "sudo halt" will shutdown the port. ;) it's wired to the 5volt.. not going to happen..
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  • [01:36:30] <mmilano> anyone using the panda wireless on the BBB?
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  • [01:49:32] <router> When I use media-ctl, the pad fmt doesn't show up. anyone can help
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  • [05:17:35] <Rotti> hi
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  • [05:58:24] <luastoned> hey, i just plugged in my bbb via usb and the 4-led bank is flashing back and forth, not booting properly.. anything I can do to resolve this?
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  • [06:04:54] <tbr> luastoned: what makes you think it's not booting properly?
  • [06:05:17] <luastoned> no ssh connection after ~15sec, and the 4 led keep flashing one after another (and back)
  • [06:05:23] <tbr> luastoned: what did you do before you plugged in now? which distribution is installed? sd-card or eMMC?
  • [06:05:54] <luastoned> I disconnected it yesterday (after building a kernel), latest debian / sd-card
  • [06:06:09] <luastoned> disconnected by pulling the usb cable..
  • [06:06:26] <tbr> you didn't bother to shut it down properly?
  • [06:06:48] <tbr> did you install the kernel that you built?
  • [06:06:55] <luastoned> tbh I just got it two days ago and was not aware of that (I do own a RPi where you HAVE to pull the power..)
  • [06:07:02] <luastoned> nope, just build it
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  • [06:07:50] <tbr> even on the RPi you should shut it down before you cut power, I'm pretty sure
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  • [06:08:35] <luastoned> I plugged it in again and now all 4 leds are turned on, nothing else happens
  • [06:09:32] <tbr> you probably don't have a proper serial cable at hand?
  • [06:09:46] <luastoned> Not really, just usb
  • [06:10:17] <elinuxer> <maquefel><mkad> i tried out with angstrom distro, for i2c io expander. Am getting " [ 1435.382453] omap_i2c 4819c000.i2c: controller timed out" timeout error.
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  • [06:14:12] <maquefel> elinuxer: burn ... burn...
  • [06:14:18] <luastoned> also the bbb does not boot without the sd card.. seems like I really screwed up :c
  • [06:14:41] <maquefel> elinuxer: are you sure you haven't damaged i2c?
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  • [06:17:14] <maquefel> elinuxer: have you tried vanilla angstrom distrib with all things diconnected from i2c?
  • [06:18:18] <elinuxer> maquefel : i gave it to hardware team for testing
  • [06:20:14] <elinuxer> maquefel : No , i tried angstrom prebuilt images for BBB
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  • [07:31:19] <mkad> morning
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  • [07:40:57] <maquefel> hi
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  • [07:50:52] <mkad> hi
  • [07:52:18] <maquefel> mkad: about bb and bbb capes are not fully compatible
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  • [07:52:35] <maquefel> usually bbb compatible are marked as compatible
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  • [08:03:03] <mkad> maquefel, but do they have the same footprint ?
  • [08:03:26] <mkad> maquefel, I want to make bbb cap, but I found only dimensions / footprint in manual for bb
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  • [08:11:18] <maquefel> mkad: they have the same footprint
  • [08:12:07] <mkad> and do you know he difference in pinout?
  • [08:12:20] <mkad> thanks
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  • [08:16:56] <maquefel> http://eskimon.fr/beaglebone-black-gpio-interactive-map for bbb
  • [08:17:43] <maquefel> as for white one see reference manual
  • [08:18:23] <maquefel> as far as i understand only P8 is different
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  • [08:18:54] <tbr> AFAIU the difference is simply the HDMI and eMMC muxes
  • [08:19:17] <maquefel> http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBone_Capes
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  • [08:26:00] <maquefel> mkad: what exactly do you want on cape?
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  • [08:42:25] <luastoned> what causes the bbb to flash the 4 leds back and forth?
  • [08:42:50] <maquefel> better attach a debug cable
  • [08:43:07] <maquefel> buy one if you don't have it
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  • [08:44:30] <luastoned> hmm, what can I do in the meantime?
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  • [08:45:11] <maquefel> 1) fscheck sd card
  • [08:45:23] <maquefel> 2) try to boot from nand (just remove the card)
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  • [08:45:27] <maquefel> 3) reflash card
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  • [08:46:05] <maquefel> 4) restore original nand image
  • [08:46:33] <maquefel> https://learn.adafruit.com/beaglebone-black-installing-operating-systems/overview
  • [08:47:14] <luastoned> the os runs fine.. im curious if there are some status messages that the user leds indicate?
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  • [08:49:10] <maquefel> all leds means it can't boot for whatever reason
  • [08:49:50] <luastoned> no, they flash back and forth.. like xooo oxoo ooxo ooox ooxo oxoo xooo ..
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  • [08:54:56] <maquefel> as far as i rememebr it means reflashing o_O
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  • [08:55:27] <luastoned> uh okay, thats weird
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  • [08:57:10] <maquefel> buy a cable
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  • [09:00:20] <luastoned> do I want the standard FTDI Cable
  • [09:03:51] <maquefel> i use this one http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/TTL-232R-3V3/768-1015-ND/1836393
  • [09:06:55] <luastoned> ty
  • [09:09:06] <maquefel> np
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  • [09:16:29] <mkad> maquefel, I want imu cape
  • [09:17:00] <mkad> luastoned, same happens with my BBB also continously flashes 4 leds
  • [09:18:28] <mkad> luastoned, but I am logged in ^^
  • [09:19:00] <mkad> maquefel, I am also curious why this flashes back and forth, cause I am logged in and I never bother to ask :P
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  • [09:20:25] <luastoned> mkad, mine stopped flashing back and forth after about 2 minutes and now it just flashes all 4 :v
  • [09:22:28] <tbr> redo your card, probably something corrupted it.
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  • [09:25:29] <mkad> tbr, I am booting from mmc
  • [09:25:36] <mkad> tbr, and I can log in via ssh
  • [09:25:45] <mkad> OS is fully opertional
  • [09:26:25] <tbr> I meant luastoned
  • [09:26:41] <mkad> what I see for me is that 2 longer blinks D2, and 3 shorted blinks D4
  • [09:26:43] <mkad> is that normal?
  • [09:27:38] <tbr> have you looked up the leds meaning?
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  • [09:33:34] <elinuxer> thanks <maquefel> <mkad> , its hardware issue.
  • [09:34:35] <elinuxer> Now i can detect slave address
  • [09:37:46] <mkad> elinuxer, so you found out it didnt work with stock image ?
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  • [11:48:39] <Ravi_> hi im having a problem using xhost + command on beaglebone black
  • [11:49:35] <Ravi_> error message is 'xhost: unable to open display ":0.0"'
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  • [11:49:51] <woglinde> use ssh
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  • [11:50:22] <mkad> Ravi_, ssh -X ?
  • [11:50:23] <Ravi_> im typing on console displayed on led panel via hdmi
  • [11:50:38] <tbr> is there an x-server running?
  • [11:50:52] <Ravi_> how can i check that
  • [11:50:56] <Ravi_> im a newbie
  • [11:51:09] <Ravi_> if you could give steps it would be great
  • [11:51:09] <tbr> why do you think you need to run this command?
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  • [11:51:23] <Ravi_> want to display an image via opencv
  • [11:51:26] <Letothe2nd> strange.. just today morning we had a newbie in our local ubuntu channel also running into xhost woes
  • [11:51:28] <tbr> we don't give out "exact steps" around here. we help people to figure out their steps.
  • [11:51:43] <Ravi_> thats fine
  • [11:51:47] <Letothe2nd> no idea where they get this idea from, in 10+x years of linux i've never encountered it.
  • [11:52:21] <tbr> Letothe2nd: if you 'su' around a lot it's helpful, but under normal operation completely unnecessary
  • [11:52:51] <Ravi_> could you please help
  • [11:52:52] <Letothe2nd> tbr: probably some idiot(TM) posted a super cool new tutorial somewhere.
  • [11:52:59] <tbr> Ravi_: ok, so which operating system du you run on your beaglebone?
  • [11:53:01] <Letothe2nd> Ravi_: of course. don't use xhost.
  • [11:53:05] <tbr> Letothe2nd: most likely
  • [11:53:10] <Ravi_> ubuntu 14.04
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  • [11:53:28] <tbr> does it give you a graphical login on the HDMI output?
  • [11:53:36] <k-man> are any of the buttons on the BBB usable simply as a push button input?
  • [11:53:56] <tbr> k-man: I think so, the SRM should know
  • [11:54:06] <Ravi_> tbr: it gives no gui. just the shell
  • [11:54:14] <k-man> tbr, srm?
  • [11:54:21] <tbr> SystemReferenceManual
  • [11:54:39] <leandrosansilva> Hello to all, I have a BBB rev B and would like to replace the OS which is installed on it by Debian 7.5. I don't want to install it on a SD card, but on its internal memory. I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 as host system and the image BBB-eMMC-flasher-debian-7.5-2014-05-14-2gb.img.xz downloded available from http://beagleboard.org/latest-images. I'm trying to follow the instructions, but it seems they don't apply to the disk image I have downloaded
  • [11:54:44] <leandrosansilva> any clues?
  • [11:54:49] <Ravi_> @tbr: it gives no gui. just the shell
  • [11:54:55] <tbr> Ravi_: then you should install a graphical environment first.
  • [11:55:04] <leandrosansilva> I don't have in ubuntu any devices /dev/ttyUSB*
  • [11:55:04] <tbr> Ravi_: no need to repeat yourself.
  • [11:55:23] <leandrosansilva> although I have ran mkdevrules.sh (adapted to rev B)
  • [11:55:40] <leandrosansilva> I can connect on BBB by ethernet over usb
  • [11:55:44] <tbr> leandrosansilva: that image goes onto a SD card
  • [11:55:51] <Ravi_> @tbr: i tried installing graphical environment. it crashes after login
  • [11:55:58] <leandrosansilva> and there's the device /dev/ttyACB0, which I can connect using screen
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  • [11:56:51] <tbr> Ravi_: have you considered using an image that comes with a working graphical environment?
  • [11:56:54] <leandrosansilva> tbr, and is there a image I can use to replace Angstrom?
  • [11:57:07] <leandrosansilva> I don't want to use an external sd card
  • [11:57:14] <k-man> thanks tbr
  • [11:57:21] <Ravi_> @tbr: I've tried with angstrom. It is working fine there
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  • [11:57:44] <Ravi_> @tbr: I was hoping to use a minimal distribution and doing it
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  • [11:58:27] <tbr> leandrosansilva: the one you have looks right
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  • [11:59:35] <tbr> cute
  • [11:59:59] <mkad> omg
  • [12:00:03] <mkad> poobuntu minimal
  • [12:00:16] * mkad rotfl
  • [12:00:18] <tbr> leandrosansilva: there should be instructions how to extract and dd that to a sd card as a flasher
  • [12:00:47] <mkad> tbr, that made my day, do you have more often people comming here and claiming something similar ? :D
  • [12:01:03] <tbr> mkad: all the time man, all the time.
  • [12:01:22] <mkad> tbr, ubuntu is like a curse ...
  • [12:01:46] <leandrosansilva> tbr, so it means I have to install the image from a pre installed system on a SD card from beaglebone?
  • [12:01:47] <mkad> tbr, they even install on work stations in the scientific facility I work in
  • [12:02:09] <leandrosansilva> can I install it directly from my development machine?
  • [12:02:25] <mkad> leandrosansilva, you flash SD card using sd card read in your laptop or extrnal one
  • [12:02:29] <mkad> leandrosansilva, you plug the card into BBB
  • [12:02:31] <tbr> leandrosansilva: you put that image on a SD card, boot the board from that card, the board 'flashes' the eMMC with the desired content.
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  • [12:02:38] <mkad> leandrosansilva, it should flash emmc when booting
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  • [12:02:59] <tbr> after it's done flashing you remove the card and live happily ever after
  • [12:03:18] <mkad> leandrosansilva, this image you downloaded is called "flasher" so its intended to flash emmc with Debian 7.5
  • [12:03:53] <leandrosansilva> ok, I got it. thank you. I didn't figure out I a SD card is required
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  • [13:20:30] <luastoned> mkad did you update your kernel to rev60?
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  • [13:29:38] <mkad> luastoned, I didnt do anything besides upgrading wheezy to jessie
  • [13:30:11] <luastoned> hmm, ive re-setup my sd card 3 times now and it always appears to be after the kernel update (the blinking).. :v
  • [13:30:13] <mkad> luastoned, I needed new compiler and some libraries and backports always break more than do good
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  • [14:32:59] <dey> hola muchachos
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  • [14:53:30] <jkridner> anybody try out https://developer.ibm.com/iot/recipes/ti-beaglebone-sensortag/?
  • [14:53:55] <woglinde> I am not
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  • [15:02:51] <wmat> jkridner: I was thinking about picking up a sensortag
  • [15:03:00] <dey> lasertag?
  • [15:03:20] <jkridner> I'm trying to figure out if the sensors it comes make it worth playing with...
  • [15:03:31] <jkridner> trying to get the list of them now.
  • [15:03:49] <wmat> jkridner: it should be on the processors wiki
  • [15:03:51] * wmat looks
  • [15:04:00] <dey> isnt a bbb a tiny bit overpowered for this?
  • [15:04:36] <jkridner> found em: temperature, humidity, pressure, accelerometer, gyroscope and magnetometer
  • [15:04:56] <jkridner> dey: as a data collector to serve up info over the web?
  • [15:05:19] <wmat> dey: also, the data could be useful as an addon to another project
  • [15:05:23] <jkridner> I think the web interface stuff leveraging Linux's ability to run scripting languages and have a great networking stack make the Bone suitable.
  • [15:05:43] <jkridner> you could hook up a bunch of them for an environmental system.
  • [15:05:49] <dey> i think we talk about different things here.
  • [15:06:08] <dey> my bad
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  • [15:10:10] <mkad> jkridner, is that sensor board a cap board?
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  • [15:12:07] <wmat> jkridner: http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Bluetooth_SensorTag?INTC=SensorTag&HQS=sensortag-wiki
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  • [15:12:38] <jkridner> cap?
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  • [15:13:13] <wmat> jkridner: lots of great links from that wiki page, such as http://www.zephyr-labs.com/?p=87
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  • [15:20:42] <brimestone> hey guys.. after first reboot on my beaglebone "After Debian MMC flash" the board fails to restart
  • [15:21:32] <woglinde> brimestone yes and now?
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  • [15:21:56] <woglinde> brimestone maybe connect a serial console and lookup why it doesnt boot?
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  • [15:22:23] <brimestone> the usb you mean?
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  • [15:23:05] <woglinde> one that works and shows you the boot messages
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  • [15:23:24] <vagrantc> the usb serial console is enabled a bit too late for boot problems.
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  • [15:24:05] * vagrantc wonders if it would be feasible to add usb-otg support to u-boot...
  • [15:24:23] <brimestone> what software can i use to log in serial? i normally go in via usb0
  • [15:24:34] <woglinde> vagrantc is not there a little bit otg in u-boot?
  • [15:25:01] <brimestone> ahh even the "boot" image that mounts on my desktop doesnt show up
  • [15:25:01] <woglinde> brimestone read the TRM do look up where to connect the serial console?
  • [15:25:18] <brimestone> even the Beaglegone usb ehtyernet does not show up
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  • [15:27:30] <brimestone> Readme shows to install Serial driver for OSX
  • [15:27:33] <brimestone> and i installed it
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  • [15:27:38] <woglinde> yes
  • [15:27:41] <vagrantc> woglinde: i think so, but i don't think the support is there for the beaglebone black ... not sure if there's generic usb gadget support in u-boot
  • [15:27:46] <woglinde> but thats for usb only
  • [15:27:50] <brimestone> but nothing
  • [15:28:12] * vagrantc tries to dig up a helpful link regarding serial console
  • [15:28:13] <brimestone> i dont see any ports aside from the micro usb
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  • [15:28:30] <woglinde> brimestone look the TRM up, you will need a ftdi compatible serial cable
  • [15:28:48] <woglinde> usb only works with u-boot and kernel
  • [15:28:50] <freezevee> Hi I have installed the latest emmc version of debian wheezy 7.5 and I can't stop the BBB from falling to sleep ! any ideas ?
  • [15:28:57] <freezevee> not much in google about that..
  • [15:29:00] <brimestone> well i might not have ftdi serial cabe
  • [15:29:07] <brimestone> ill just reflash it
  • [15:29:08] <woglinde> brimestone buy one
  • [15:29:13] <woglinde> brimestone try
  • [15:30:00] <brimestone> after i reflash it.. it would work fine, then i get Wifi to work and mount an ext3 fs via the micro sd..
  • [15:30:09] <brimestone> then if i reboot.. it just wont statt up again
  • [15:30:59] <vagrantc> brimestone: you've done this more than once?
  • [15:31:17] <brimestone> like a lot! since friday when i learned about the new debian..
  • [15:31:27] <brimestone> had it for since last year..
  • [15:31:31] <brimestone> i have the 2GB mmc one
  • [15:32:04] <woglinde> so you maybee flashed an image which is to big
  • [15:32:10] <vagrantc> brimestone: for reference: http://www.elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBone_Black_Serial
  • [15:32:20] <brimestone> well after flash.. its at 93%
  • [15:32:26] <brimestone> then update gets to 99%
  • [15:32:57] <brimestone> oh i have the cable from my Mikrokopter
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  • [15:37:56] <brimestone> what should i do with the small MMC
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  • [15:49:57] <brimestone> hey guys.. do i need to press and hold the "power" botton to power it up? even if i replug the usb or 5V adaptor?
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  • [16:07:04] <brimestone> i know
  • [16:07:57] <vagrantc> you asked a question, i tried to answer...
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  • [16:13:52] <brimestone> :)
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  • [16:24:41] <day> is there any way to speed up gpio interaction? i wrote a hd44780 python driver via /sys/class/gpio..and its so slow. i can read faster than the display puts out the letters :P
  • [16:25:01] <tbr> if you want faster, write a kernel driver
  • [16:25:09] <tbr> or don't use python
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  • [16:25:27] <day> would C really make that much of a difference?
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  • [16:25:39] <av500> not really
  • [16:25:45] <day> thats what i thought
  • [16:26:20] <day> kernel drivers make me shiver. ive never done it before
  • [16:26:30] <day> dont even know where to start
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  • [16:27:48] <tbr> oh, look, someone did it for you: http://lcd-linux.sourceforge.net/
  • [16:28:10] <tbr> and the search engine of my least distrust delivered other useful looking hits too
  • [16:29:29] <tbr> http://lcdproc.omnipotent.net/hardware.php3
  • [16:29:43] <av500> is there an X11 driver for hd44780?
  • [16:29:46] <day> im less interested in using it than writing it :D
  • [16:30:06] <day> the writing itself shouldnt even be the biggest issue
  • [16:30:16] <day> i just dont have zero understanding of the kernel
  • [16:30:29] <day> -dont
  • [16:30:47] <tbr> there are books about that :)
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  • [16:30:58] <brimestone> how do i boot on the SD card for my BBB? i think 2GB mmc is too small for Debian
  • [16:32:06] <tbr> you're doing mighty much with that tiny board if you exceed 2GB just for the OS...
  • [16:32:26] <tbr> plug in a bootable card and hold down the boot selector button while powering it on
  • [16:32:39] <tbr> or kill MLO on the eMMC boot partition
  • [16:32:51] <tbr> or adjust uboot on emmc to boot SD instead
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  • [16:35:18] <brimestone> tbr, how do i do the 3rd option? adjust the uboot?
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  • [16:42:54] <vagrantc> tbr: the debian image is just barely under 2GB.
  • [16:43:07] <vagrantc> tbr: hence the revC switching to 4GB.
  • [16:43:48] <tbr> vagrantc: I doubt it was debian
  • [16:44:11] <tbr> I think it was just the part being discontinued
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  • [16:45:35] <vagrantc> tbr: yes, that wa a factor as well, but the debian image was around 1.7-1.9 GB during development, it became clear we needed more space for the debian image.
  • [16:46:28] <tbr> vagrantc: I just checked and the debian image on my bone uses 1.3GB of 1.6G rootfs.
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  • [16:47:17] <tbr> while not plentiful, it's still quite some space
  • [16:47:34] <tbr> ofc if someone doesn't know how to tune2fs -m0
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  • [16:49:16] <mkad> tbr, -m0 may make your life miserable
  • [16:49:43] <mkad> tbr, it's just saying that you dont care about logging facilities and if something goes wrong you dont want to have debugging information
  • [16:50:11] <mkad> or don't care to have
  • [16:50:56] <mkad> I know this cases are rare when disc is full, but it may happen
  • [16:50:57] <tbr> mkad: it's an embedded device. which sane person logs much on those?
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  • [16:51:19] <tbr> and yes, I'm obviously fully aware of the full filesystem corner cases.
  • [16:51:59] <vagrantc> tbr: this was an image from: http://beagleboard.org/latest-images ?
  • [16:52:15] <tbr> vagrantc: it's an SD-card 2GB image from a while ago, yes
  • [16:52:22] <vagrantc> huh.
  • [16:52:34] <tbr> kernel is a 3.8.13-bone41, you do the math
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  • [16:52:47] <tbr> March 4th it says
  • [16:52:49] <mkad> tbr, what I mean is that if unaware user fills up disc by running some script creating nested links (this will show that there is a lot of space, but in fact nothing can be written), or fills up disc with data, than there will be no logging anymore which might save a day of troubleshooting
  • [16:53:46] <tbr> mkad: as said, aware of it, wouldn't advocate it as a default, but as a conscious choice is perfectly fine IMHO.
  • [16:53:57] <mkad> tbr, true
  • [16:54:44] <mkad> tbr, once all works and if you dont intend to touch it why not ;)
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  • [16:56:01] <tbr> or if you just urgently need the space and don't give a f* if you need to reflash it later on
  • [16:56:34] <tbr> also I'd probably first try -m1 and see if that's enough, before going nucular(sic!)
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  • [17:00:43] <brimestone> vagrantc: how do i deal with this my BBB 2GB with Debian?
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  • [17:06:03] <vagrantc> brimestone: use an SD card?
  • [17:06:19] <vagrantc> brimestone: or, if you don't need the full GUI environment, uninstall some packages...
  • [17:06:28] <vagrantc> as if it's a full GUI environment, heh.
  • [17:06:42] <brimestone> yes.. i dont need GUI at all...
  • [17:07:01] <brimestone> if i use the SD, is there performance(speed) penalty>
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  • [17:07:37] <vagrantc> i think the SD is slower, yes.
  • [17:07:50] <mkad> not much slower
  • [17:07:58] <mkad> depends on application
  • [17:08:05] <mkad> and if you do a lot of IO
  • [17:08:10] <brimestone> let me try removing the gui first and see where that puts me
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  • [17:13:20] <tbr> also depends on the SD card
  • [17:13:30] <tbr> a lot of cards suck badly at random IO
  • [17:13:37] <brimestone> is there any tutorial on how to remove GUI?
  • [17:13:54] <tbr> I'd just use apt-get or aptitude
  • [17:14:05] <brimestone> apt-get remove kde?
  • [17:14:19] <tbr> no idea which desktop environment it uses...
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  • [17:15:35] <mkad> lmao
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  • [17:16:17] <vagrantc> lxde is the default environment
  • [17:16:26] <mkad> brimestone, there is no beagle tutorial how to use linux/debian but there are plenty of books and readings online how to use Debian
  • [17:16:29] <vagrantc> although it seems that the autoremove stuff isn't working well
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  • [17:17:28] <mkad> brimestone, you could try removing gtk library and xserver and see what pops up in dependencis
  • [17:17:34] <brimestone> i fairly ok with Debian as i deal with them pretty much all day at work..
  • [17:17:53] <brimestone> im not not use to working with 2GB of space..
  • [17:18:05] <brimestone> i mean my RAM on my servers are at 64GB
  • [17:18:51] <agmlego> As a note, that 2GB is not RAM...
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  • [17:19:42] <brimestone> i know.. im just pointing out that its really hard to work with 2GB or MMC and after OS, its like at 1.3 ( then update gets you to 1.9 )
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  • [17:20:25] <vagrantc> brimestone: this seems to take off 200MB on my install: apt-get --purge autoremove x11-common
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  • [17:20:26] <agmlego> brimestone: Right, but you are comparing your servers' 64GB RAM to the bone's 2GB flash storage.
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  • [17:20:44] <agmlego> brimestone: And, there are many, many tutorials out there for slimming down debian.
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  • [17:21:07] <vagrantc> er, that also removes node and all that...
  • [17:21:20] <agmlego> brimestone: I have personally never had an issue working with limited disk space. What is it you are trying to do?
  • [17:21:25] <brimestone> agmlego: yes.. but don't you think a manufacturer should give you such option..
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  • [17:21:35] <agmlego> brimestone: What option where?
  • [17:22:13] <brimestone> agmlego: at this point, im just trying to get the bbb to connect to the WIFI and get it stable.. so far, i got it to work via static but after reboot.. it fails to power up again
  • [17:22:30] <agmlego> That, uh, does not sound like you have a space issue.
  • [17:22:39] <brimestone> im going to try this ----> apt-get remove gnome gnome-utils gnome-core gnome-desktop-data gnome-desktop-environment
  • [17:22:46] <vagrantc> there was some recent talk about providing a very minimalist image as well
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  • [17:23:02] <brimestone> vagrantc: Where?
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  • [17:24:08] <vagrantc> rcn seems to have a small image: https://rcn-ee.net/deb/testing/2014-07-03/
  • [17:24:10] <vagrantc> no idea if it works
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  • [17:24:51] <brimestone> do you guys all have the 4GB mmc?
  • [17:24:53] <vagrantc> brimestone: if gnome is installed, that seems to be your problem
  • [17:25:06] <vagrantc> brimestone: as that's not in the default image
  • [17:25:35] <agmlego> brimestone: Nope, I have 2GB.
  • [17:25:37] <brimestone> no, not sure if gnome is installed.. i downloaded the image from bbb site
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  • [17:26:00] <brimestone> agmlego: Are you running Angstrom, ubuntu, or Debian?
  • [17:26:13] <vagrantc> brimestone: well, if you want to trim down the image, you probably want to focus on packages that are installed :P
  • [17:26:30] <agmlego> brimestone: Debian and Angstrom.
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  • [17:26:55] <brimestone> agmlego: What space do you have left after Debian?
  • [17:27:24] <agmlego> No idea, I have not recently checked. But everything I need it to do, it does, so there is obviously no space issue.
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  • [17:28:07] <Subbu_> Hi
  • [17:28:12] <Subbu_> anybody there?
  • [17:28:28] <vagrantc> after trimming out some extra kernels i installed, i've got my image down to 1.7GB ... though i've probably a few other packages installed beyond the base image.
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  • [17:34:43] <day> im looking for someone who has a master degree in setting up a 'locale' file. :P
  • [17:35:05] <agmlego> day: No universities offer that. Sorry, you are out of luck.
  • [17:35:13] <day> my root locale is correct. my user locale isnt...
  • [17:35:23] <day> one is utf8 the other posix
  • [17:36:05] <vagrantc> day: running debian?
  • [17:36:10] <day> yes
  • [17:36:19] <day> that doesnt sound good :X
  • [17:36:29] <vagrantc> sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
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  • [17:36:35] <vagrantc> you should be able to set a system-wide locale
  • [17:36:37] <vagrantc> default
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  • [17:36:56] <day> im gonna be mad if that works ;D
  • [17:39:35] <vagrantc> i daresay, i have no degree related to this...
  • [17:41:26] <day> doesnt work
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  • [17:42:32] <vagrantc> add a new user, do they get the correct locale?
  • [17:42:39] <day> here a nice screenshot http://pastebin.com/9aE4etPf
  • [17:42:44] <day> no they dont :>
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  • [17:44:17] <day> vagrantc: someone yesterday recommended me to export the locale. But im unsure how i have to approach this
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  • [17:47:38] <day> ok
  • [17:47:40] <day> i got it
  • [17:48:18] <day> but only temporarily via export LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8
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  • [17:51:06] <vagrantc> day: grep -E -i -r 'lang|lc_all' /etc/skel ?
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  • [17:52:51] <day> vagrantc: nada
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  • [17:54:41] <vagrantc> day: anything in /etc/default/locale?
  • [17:55:04] <day> LANG=en_US.UTF-8
  • [17:55:15] <day> :)
  • [17:55:51] <day> +1 for your thought process though : D
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  • [17:56:09] <vagrantc> grep ^[a-z] /etc/locale.gen
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  • [17:56:42] <day> en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8
  • [17:57:08] <day> maybe the export changed things that wouldnt be there after a restart, because my locale looks fine now too
  • [17:57:44] <tbr> day: are you SSHing in?
  • [17:57:47] <day> yes
  • [17:57:58] <day> but thats a non issue imo
  • [17:58:03] <tbr> your remote ssh session inherits your local locale IIRC
  • [17:58:12] <staylor> Has anyone setup the 4 or 7 inch LCD cape on the newer kernels which don't have the cape manager support?
  • [17:58:48] <day> tbr: root works fine. other users dont. besides im sshing from a windows machine. And sshing onto another server doesnt cause this problem either :/
  • [17:59:02] <day> granted windows has a locale too
  • [17:59:06] <tbr> mhm
  • [17:59:53] <day> one export LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8 and my world is fine
  • [18:01:13] <day> what does that line actually do?
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  • [18:01:48] <tbr> it overrides your LC_ALL to that value
  • [18:01:52] <tbr> for your current shell
  • [18:01:57] <tbr> until you log out
  • [18:02:09] <day> so theres no way of forcing it to be permanent :/
  • [18:02:44] <tbr> ~/.profile might help, but I'd try to figure out where the problem comes from instead of band-aiding it
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  • [18:03:10] <day> im open for suggestions. Ive no idea where else to look :/
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  • [18:03:31] <day> but i totally agree. fixing it with a workaround is not what i want
  • [18:03:45] <vagrantc> you should be able to call ssh without exporting the locale environment variables...
  • [18:03:53] <vagrantc> if that's really what's going on
  • [18:04:30] <vagrantc> day: are you able to log in from the console, rather than via ssh? does it exhibit the same problem?
  • [18:04:57] <day> vagrantc: no chance
  • [18:05:27] <tbr> JFTR on my image here it inherits the LANG and all LC_ variables from my local machine
  • [18:05:35] <tbr> both for root and other users
  • [18:06:08] <day> do i have to maybe create the user in a special way?
  • [18:06:15] <day> i used adduser iirc
  • [18:06:57] <vagrantc> day: you can force the locale settings in any number of different ways, but if the locale you're forcing it to isn't supported on the machine you're sshing from, you may have troubles.
  • [18:07:49] <day> vagrantc: thats fine. en_US.UTF-8 shouldnt cause any problems anywhere
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  • [18:10:16] <vagrantc> day: you could also fix your locale settings on the machine you're sshing from...
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  • [18:10:40] <vagrantc> day: and switch back to not setting a default locale on the debian machine...
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  • [18:15:13] <rneese> hey guys looking for input ... what do you use your boards for ?
  • [18:15:17] <rneese> what projects
  • [18:17:05] <day> vagrantc: the client is unable to pass its locale settings, because the sshd wont accept it. I will activate it to see whats going to happen
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  • [18:23:41] <stt_michael> yo mrpackethead
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  • [18:32:55] <day> is it normal that debian eats the complete 2gb emmc memory? o0
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  • [18:33:23] <day> with complete i mean, i cant even add a few characters to a text file anymore :D
  • [18:34:04] <vagrantc> maybe you have a runaway log file or soemthing?
  • [18:34:25] <day> it should be rather big :/
  • [18:34:30] <vagrantc> i definitely recall it eating most of 2GB on a fresh install, but it looks like recent images are a bit more trim
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  • [18:39:27] <youngmok> Hello
  • [18:39:37] <youngmok> Do you know when can I place order BBB?
  • [18:40:17] <stt_michael> From topic " | BBB is being sold faster than produced. Order one and wait. There is no other way. |"
  • [18:40:48] <stt_michael> where in the world, youngmok ?
  • [18:41:28] <day> they are in stock here o0
  • [18:41:50] <youngmok> Hello
  • [18:42:00] <youngmok> I am working in a robotics area, UT Austin
  • [18:42:12] <youngmok> So say, I really want to have BBB T_T
  • [18:42:16] <youngmok> It is out of stock
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  • [18:47:09] <stt_michael> what vendors have you tried?
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  • [18:50:02] <stt_michael> https://www.adafruit.com/products/1876 - In Stock .. allegedly :D
  • [18:50:13] <day> hes long gone
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  • [18:51:15] <stt_michael> http://specialcomp.com/beaglebone/
  • [18:51:22] <stt_michael> feckin useless
  • [18:51:29] <stt_michael> ty btw :p
  • [18:51:38] <stt_michael> wastin my bits and bytes :D
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  • [18:52:12] <thurgood> ut austin... heh I could probably throw a spare one and hit him form here
  • [18:52:34] <stt_michael> anyone built us a google bot for here yet?
  • [18:52:39] <stt_michael> :p
  • [18:53:11] <thurgood> or hand one to our intern who is also working at a ut lab this summer :P
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  • [18:53:31] <vagrantc> a FAQ bot would be really useful.
  • [18:53:32] <day> could anyone roughly tell me how much memory debian needs?
  • [18:54:17] <vagrantc> day: depends on what you're doing with it...
  • [18:54:41] <day> vagrantc: just the vanilla debian offered on the official site
  • [18:55:01] <day> that + japanese font + irssi fills my drive to 100%
  • [18:55:09] <day> i doubt that this is right
  • [18:56:14] <stt_michael> that doesn't sound right at all
  • [18:56:19] <thurgood> memory or storarge?
  • [18:56:25] <stt_michael> but then I don't know how bloaty the new deb images are
  • [18:56:36] <day> storage sorry
  • [18:56:52] <thurgood> how is your eMMC partitoned?
  • [18:57:25] <thurgood> depending on the flashing method it may not have allocated all space
  • [18:57:56] <day> rootfs 1.7G udev10M tmpfs 100M
  • [18:58:11] <day> omg
  • [18:58:14] <day> what did i just write
  • [18:58:15] <day> xD
  • [18:59:14] <day> 1.7G /
  • [18:59:14] <day> 10M /dev
  • [18:59:14] <day> 100M /run
  • [18:59:36] <vagrantc> well, /dev and /run are probably tmpfs.
  • [18:59:51] <vagrantc> there should also be /boot/uboot ?
  • [19:00:19] <day> /boot/uboot is 96MB
  • [19:00:33] <thurgood> df -h will tell how much is used and such
  • [19:00:56] <day> yeah thats where im copying it from atm
  • [19:01:00] <thurgood> ah
  • [19:01:13] <vagrantc> day: that should still leave some free space...
  • [19:01:26] <day> well / is full 100%
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  • [19:01:44] <day> the other partitions are fine
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  • [19:12:36] <day> any idea how i can approach this storage problem>?
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  • [19:18:45] <stt_michael> mrpackethead, ? are you connected?! lol
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  • [19:37:25] <thurgood> day: are you on a rev C ?
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  • [19:38:15] <day> thurgood: no idea :X is it printed on the board?
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  • [19:38:50] <thurgood> I think it's printed near the barcode... but mine rubbed off
  • [19:39:24] <day> thurgood: well its not a week old. But i live in germany.
  • [19:39:26] <thurgood> if you bought in the last month or so it's likely a C
  • [19:39:57] <day> this month
  • [19:40:20] <day> is that a problem?
  • [19:40:32] <thurgood> you have about double the space of what you're seeing then
  • [19:41:01] <day> you mean i have 4gb? or im seeing twice the usage?
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  • [19:41:21] <thurgood> the Rev C board has 4GB of eMMC
  • [19:41:40] <thurgood> but your partition seems to be about 2GB
  • [19:42:08] <thurgood> did you flash the eMMC yourself?
  • [19:42:20] <day> thurgood: hm the packaging says 2gb
  • [19:42:34] <thurgood> hmm, maybe it's not a C then :/
  • [19:43:56] <thurgood> I thought the older boards were all sold out about two months ago
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  • [19:44:33] <day> thurgood: packaging says rev b
  • [19:44:38] <vagrantc> i just used https://rcn-ee.net/deb/testing/2014-07-01/BBB-eMMC-flasher-debian-7.5-lxde-2014-07-01-2gb.img.xz to flash the eMMC and it seems to be using 1.5GB of 1.7GB without having done anything to it.
  • [19:44:49] <day> lol
  • [19:44:52] <vagrantc> only 126MB free space.
  • [19:45:07] <day> then its useless... is there anything smaller than that?
  • [19:45:10] <thurgood> ouch
  • [19:45:47] <vagrantc> as i said earlier, the space constraints were part of the reason the revC had 4GB on it.
  • [19:45:50] <thurgood> there's other debian packages out there that don't have all the desktop stuff
  • [19:46:06] <day> wait they stuffed in all the desktop stuff?
  • [19:46:10] <day> xserver etc.?
  • [19:46:13] <thurgood> yes
  • [19:46:15] <day> lol
  • [19:46:19] <vagrantc> yes, it includes a desktop by default.
  • [19:46:19] <day> here i come 1gb
  • [19:46:57] <thurgood> it will run better without the desktop too, if you don't need it
  • [19:47:04] <vagrantc> we really need an image targeted at the 2GB eMMC boards...
  • [19:47:11] <day> im exlusively sshing onto it nothing else
  • [19:47:16] <vagrantc> yeah, just sits there eating ram...
  • [19:47:43] <day> why would someone even consider using it as a desktop machine T_T
  • [19:48:45] <stt_michael> download a minimal debian rootfs
  • [19:48:50] <stt_michael> on the plus side .. its not ubuntu .. :D
  • [19:49:17] <stt_michael> eewiki.net has a good page on it .. walks you through kernel building too :)
  • [19:49:21] <vagrantc> day: if you're willing to experiment: https://rcn-ee.net/deb/testing/2014-07-03/bone-debian-jessie-console-2014-07-03-4gb.img.xz
  • [19:49:47] * vagrantc wonders why it's listed as 4GB ... but eh.
  • [19:49:50] <stt_michael> has rcn got the New beagle capemgr implementation in yet?
  • [19:51:08] <mrpacket_> why do you need a desktop image
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  • [19:51:40] <thurgood> some people try to use the bbb as a desktop replacement... not quite there imo, but the price is right
  • [19:52:19] <vagrantc> for limited tasks, it's useful.
  • [19:53:21] <thurgood> https://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone+Black there should be a minimal debian rootfs on there
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  • [19:54:19] <vagrantc> hrm. apparently, i should split the beaglebone package into a couple packages, as it has a hard dependency on xserver-xorg-video-modesetting...
  • [19:54:48] <day> meaning i cant even remove the xserver?
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  • [19:55:40] <vagrantc> and xinput-calibrator
  • [19:55:52] <vagrantc> day: for the most part, the beaglebone package is just a dependency package
  • [19:56:25] <vagrantc> day: so you'll want to mark the dependencies that you want as manually installed, and then you can remove it
  • [19:58:44] * vagrantc wonders how much space is taken up by nodejs
  • [19:59:35] <day> wpasupplicant....wicd...wireless-tools...WHY
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  • [20:02:04] <day> http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardDebian#eMMC:_BeagleBone_Black 179MB debian image for beaglebone :3
  • [20:02:45] <stt_michael> bloaty bloaty bloat
  • [20:02:47] <stt_michael> -sigh-
  • [20:03:12] <vagrantc> it sounds like you want some other image, no sense asking why, this is obviously not targeted for your use cae.
  • [20:04:02] <day> ?
  • [20:04:07] <day> why do you think that?
  • [20:04:16] <vagrantc> because it has lots o things you don't want?
  • [20:04:27] <day> it has less things than i have now :/
  • [20:04:33] <vagrantc> like, a desktop environment, wireless tools ...
  • [20:04:50] <day> if you have a smaller one feel free to link it
  • [20:04:57] <vagrantc> already did...
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  • [20:05:39] <day> i missread the 4gb part... my bad
  • [20:06:02] <KaaK> day, if you're looking to save space check out emdebian
  • [20:06:37] <vagrantc> day: i'm not positive, but i don't think it's really a 4GB image.
  • [20:06:51] <day> vagrantc: will see
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  • [20:07:24] <day> KaaK: im not trying to save the last few MBs... I just want a decent amount of storage to play with
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  • [20:09:37] <KaaK> day, in that case, you might checkout debootstrap for bootstrapping debian root filesystems -- you'll need to fill in a few BBB specific details (fstab, inittab, /dev nodes, ect) to make it boot, but you'll end up with a pretty light system
  • [20:09:38] <vagrantc> so, "sudo apt-get install nodejs-legacy npm ; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove x11-common" seems like it would free up 200MB...
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  • [20:11:32] <vagrantc> and if you don't need nodejs*, so much the more space available...
  • [20:11:45] <vagrantc> but yeah, debootstrap a system if you really want something minimal
  • [20:12:59] <day> debootstrap is a tool which will install a Debian base system into a subdirectory of another, already installed system. o0 doesnt that eat additional storage?
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  • [20:20:50] <KaaK> day, you will want the debootstrap target to be the eMMC
  • [20:22:24] <KaaK> i.e. boot via SD, clear out the eMMC's rootfs partion (NOT the boot partition), and point debootstrap to your newly nuked eMMC rootfs partition.
  • [20:22:47] <day> KaaK: ah, ok.
  • [20:23:34] <KaaK> keep in mind that you will still need to fill in a few BBB specifics. debootstrap will NOT make a fstab, inittab, certain dev nodes, and probably a few otherthings that currently escape me
  • [20:24:18] <KaaK> i'd call it a medium to expert skill level task, and i'd only attempt it if you know what you're getting into
  • [20:24:28] <day> sounds ugly if i only have access via ssh :/
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  • [20:25:33] <KaaK> you're at no risk of bricking anything -- you can always re-flash the emmc, but it won't be a walk in the park if you've never attempted such a thing
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  • [20:27:39] <KaaK> i'd probably do it running from SD, and over the USB serial console -- additionally, i'd copy over the existing fstab, inittab, mtab, from the eMMC and use them. No need to write them from scratch.
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  • [21:50:50] <brimestone> guys when flashing mmc, is 4 blinking led means its still flashing or something wrong?
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  • [21:56:18] <tbr> brimestone: how long has it been going?
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  • [21:58:34] <brimestone> long time.. prolly over an hour
  • [21:59:12] <tbr> should be done by now
  • [21:59:19] <tbr> try rebooting
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  • [22:06:48] <brimestone> rebooting now
  • [22:07:48] <brimestone> the only led that on is the one next to the 5V input jack
  • [22:07:55] <brimestone> is there any other button i need to press?
  • [22:09:36] <tbr> just remove card and reboot
  • [22:09:52] <brimestone> yes.. reboot like unplugin the usb
  • [22:10:16] <tbr> if that didn't work. try writing the card again and reflash.
  • [22:10:34] <tbr> (I don't know the blink pattern for the debian flasher when done, someone said they should turn off)
  • [22:11:28] <brimestone> yes.. it just turns off, i've done 3 times now.. but this time.. it just flashes.. then i reboot ( removing the sd ) then nothing happens just the 1 led next to the 5v jack lit.. nothing else
  • [22:13:50] <brimestone> i dont remember this being this PITA
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  • [22:16:39] <Sean__> which store sell beaglebone black in bay area?
  • [22:17:03] <brimestone> Sean___ Jamesco has them
  • [22:17:11] <brimestone> you know where they are?
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  • [22:18:50] <ds2> jameco has BBB's?
  • [22:19:31] <brimestone> thats where i got mine.. from what i can remember
  • [22:19:38] <veremit> there's a list of vendors at http://beagleboard.org
  • [22:20:08] <Sean__> I mean in bay area
  • [22:20:15] <ds2> which bay area?
  • [22:20:23] <Sean__> not online store,thank you
  • [22:20:33] <ds2> sf? sd? hudson? tampa? ....
  • [22:20:37] <Sean__> sf
  • [22:20:44] <ds2> jameco is a store in the sf bay area
  • [22:20:48] <veremit> you can't buy online?
  • [22:20:48] <ds2> they do will calls
  • [22:20:57] <Sean__> thank you
  • [22:21:06] <veremit> why not?!
  • [22:21:13] <ds2> nice folks, just surprise they carry them
  • [22:22:04] <ds2> where in the sf bay area are you coming from, Sean__?
  • [22:22:18] <Sean__> ucb
  • [22:22:20] <veremit> I-80?! :D
  • [22:22:22] <Sean__> or santa clara
  • [22:22:39] <ds2> ucb is quite far away
  • [22:22:50] <ds2> santa clara is still somewhat of a drive
  • [22:23:00] <ds2> with the price of gas, shipping is cheaper :(
  • [22:23:17] <Sean__> yes
  • [22:23:20] <veremit> if he can't buy online .. for w/e reason ..
  • [22:23:25] <veremit> he's gonna drive it.
  • [22:23:37] <ds2> online has "inventory" issues
  • [22:23:59] <brimestone> Sean! take mine...
  • [22:24:10] <brimestone> save my sanity :D
  • [22:24:11] <veremit> the inventory is fine .. its justthe stock and control :p
  • [22:24:25] <veremit> and especially a lack of supply
  • [22:24:34] <__butch__> It doesn't look like Jameco has them, though.
  • [22:24:43] <__butch__> Availability: ship in 10 days
  • [22:24:51] <__butch__> And that's for an A6B
  • [22:25:20] <__butch__> Oh, and they want $88.95 for them. :-(
  • [22:25:36] <__butch__> If you're willing to pay that and you can get by with a rev A, get it from Radio Shack.
  • [22:25:53] <veremit> order and wait
  • [22:26:02] <veremit> the days of suppliers keeping stock of the BBB are well gone
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  • [22:26:11] <veremit> at least you'll get one that way
  • [22:26:21] <veremit> pick somewhere with a semi-decent lead time :)
  • [22:26:39] <brimestone> Sean__ take mine.. you can bring it home tonight :D
  • [22:27:47] <veremit> they don't damage in transit .. mine's been on three trans-atlantic crossings so far ... :D
  • [22:32:04] <ds2> veremit: the question is will it make more transatlantic crossings ;)
  • [22:32:33] <veremit> lol indeed :)
  • [22:32:45] <ds2> maybe a battery cape is required now :D
  • [22:33:08] <veremit> and wings ...
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  • [22:48:04] <brimestone> ok.. after 5th time or flashing.. its finished ( shutdown ) but after i reboot, i get a "boot" mounted on desktop and not access to 192.168.7.2
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  • [23:04:28] <brimestone> http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardDebian#eMMC:_BeagleBone_Black "(error -84: which may mean you've reached the max number of erase/write cycles...)" whats the number?
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  • [23:22:10] <CareBear\> brimestone : grep 84 /usr/include/bits/errno.h
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