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  • [00:03:56] <veremit> I don't believe its a 64bit processor :p
  • [00:04:03] <veremit> lol
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  • [00:29:53] <Billy_> lol
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  • [01:07:44] <nate_> Hi guys, does anyone know the root password for the new REV C boards?
  • [01:09:00] <veremit> if its debian .. there isn't one .. use "sudo su" and your debian pwd.
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  • [01:09:14] <nyt> or just sudo -c
  • [01:09:15] <nyt> lol
  • [01:09:25] <nyt> err sudo -s
  • [01:09:28] <veremit> else it was root/root at one time. or root/<nothing>
  • [01:09:38] <zmatt> -s or -i depending on whether you want a clean environment
  • [01:09:39] <veremit> one less key nyt :P
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  • [04:39:19] <mrpackethead> what did we miss today
  • [04:39:40] <foreverska> The end of the world?
  • [04:40:21] <av500> again?
  • [04:41:53] <foreverska> What if each time the world doesn't end it actually does in an alternate universe and we are just a million near misses from annihilation and next time may be our time.
  • [04:42:16] <mrpackethead> yes
  • [04:42:29] <mrpackethead> what if
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  • [04:43:52] <foreverska> I guess it doesn't matter since we never come in contact with those universes. Poor sods.
  • [04:44:11] <raspberrypifan> my 3.B will be here soon
  • [04:44:13] <raspberrypifan> what hsall i do first
  • [04:44:31] <foreverska> feed a GPIO 12v
  • [04:44:38] <raspberrypifan> why
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  • [04:44:47] <foreverska> To let the magic smoke out
  • [04:44:52] <raspberrypifan> why would anyone say that
  • [04:44:55] <raspberrypifan> some ppl would believ it
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  • [04:46:03] <foreverska> lol well in all honesty I take that piece of advice from personal experience (on accident of course)
  • [04:47:01] <foreverska> Why would you buy a BB without a purpose though?
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  • [04:57:03] <raspberrypifan> why not
  • [05:00:07] <foreverska> I guess if you like $55 dust collectors. I knew when I bought mine I wanted to interface my MPL115A2 eval kit and I wanted to tinker with custom embedded linux builds.
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  • [05:01:38] <raspberrypifan> whats an mpl115a2
  • [05:02:05] <foreverska> Ambient Barometric Sensor made by Freescale Semiconductors
  • [05:03:31] <raspberrypifan> complex
  • [05:06:34] <foreverska> What parts do you have lying around?
  • [05:07:38] <raspberrypifan> lots i mean im planning on using it for freepbx but i was wondering if there is anyhitng else
  • [05:07:41] <raspberrypifan> that ppl use them for
  • [05:10:07] <foreverska> lol that feels a bit like asking what all people use bread for
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  • [05:11:53] <raspberrypifan> with butter usually
  • [05:13:46] <foreverska> If you wan't a headache learn about the PRU system. I'm working with that currently
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  • [05:19:37] <raspberrypifan> pru?
  • [05:21:13] <foreverska> Programmable Realtime Unit, 200MHz non-deterministic core. There's two of them on an AM335x forming the PRUSS.
  • [05:21:44] <raspberrypifan> i have no idea what u talking about
  • [05:21:44] <raspberrypifan> lol
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  • [05:23:19] <foreverska> lol they're only useful in cases when you need very fast very reliable monitoring of inputs.
  • [05:24:08] <raspberrypifan> i doubt i will
  • [05:24:47] <nyt> raspberrypifan: write something with my library ;)
  • [05:24:52] <nyt> it needs more love
  • [05:24:57] <raspberrypifan> how many books does it have
  • [05:25:32] <foreverska> What library do you own nyt?
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  • [05:45:02] <nyt> https://github.com/notnyt/beaglebone
  • [05:45:12] <nyt> =[
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  • [06:09:46] <Amperture> So I've got an old-school BB, I guess you would call it a White?
  • [06:09:58] <Amperture> And...that BBB RevC looks awful pretty.
  • [06:10:28] <nyt> i'd get a revc if i had the spare cash laying around
  • [06:10:35] <Amperture> I'm wondering if I can solicit some arguments that I should, or should not, either way, upgrade to a BBBC.
  • [06:10:37] <nyt> my rev b will have to do
  • [06:11:41] <Amperture> Part of me is kinda sad about the RevC, even that tiny increase puts it through a whole bunch of mental breakpoints.
  • [06:12:02] <nyt> faster
  • [06:12:03] <nyt> more ram
  • [06:12:05] <Amperture> increase in price, I should have specified.
  • [06:12:06] <nyt> serial header
  • [06:12:15] <nyt> larger emmc
  • [06:12:23] <nyt> hdmi
  • [06:13:10] * nyt sleep &
  • [06:13:11] <Amperture> As far as specifically the argument for a BBB vs. an RPi
  • [06:13:49] <Amperture> I still prefer the BB, but it's significantly harder to evangelize to my buddies interested in embedded systems
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  • [06:20:16] <Dan3> it all depends on wat you want to do with a bbb/rpi
  • [06:20:36] <Dan3> rpi still has its places
  • [06:20:41] <Dan3> *place
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  • [06:47:01] <av500> http://nathanielrlewis.com/?p=87
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  • [07:08:52] <mahesh__> i want interface usb camera
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  • [07:08:57] <mahesh__> with bbbb]
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  • [07:09:13] <LetoThe2nd> what keeps you from doing it?
  • [07:09:18] <mahesh__> am getting select timeout
  • [07:09:51] <mahesh__> LetoThe2nd: can you tell me why am getting
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  • [07:11:01] <LetoThe2nd> mahesh__: no. but if you provide details (like software you used, which camera, which error message, error message when) maybe someone else can
  • [07:11:24] <mahesh_> am using bulzer usb camera
  • [07:11:29] <mahesh_> using opencv
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  • [07:12:31] <mahesh_> select time out error am getting when i run a program
  • [07:12:46] <mahesh_> LetoThe2nd, hello
  • [07:12:56] <mahesh_> LetoThe2nd, are you busy
  • [07:13:04] <LetoThe2nd> mahesh_: i told you that i cannot help you.
  • [07:13:14] <mahesh_> LetoThe2nd, why
  • [07:13:57] <LetoThe2nd> mahesh_: because i do not care about cameras, i do not care about opencv, and i do not feel like asking you every single detail because you do not provide good informations.
  • [07:14:52] <mahesh_> LetoThe2nd, ok fine which one you are familiar
  • [07:16:02] <LetoThe2nd> mahesh_: you are not listening. "I WILL NOT SUPPORT CAMERA THINGS."
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  • [07:16:42] <mahesh_> LetoThe2nd, ok sir which thing you are supporting
  • [07:17:32] <mahesh_> LetoThe2nd, actually am newer to bbb
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  • [07:18:46] <mahesh_> Mounicq, hi
  • [07:18:51] <mahesh_> Mounicq,
  • [07:19:04] <mahesh_> Mounicq, did you know about bbb
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  • [07:22:43] <foreverska> wow... how do people get so pushy?
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  • [07:51:38] <heeen> what is the difference between /sys/class/uio/uio0/maps/map2/ and /sys/class/uio/uio0/maps/map1
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  • [08:09:40] <mrpackethead> heeen: 1
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  • [08:19:53] <heeen> herp derp
  • [08:20:23] <heeen> map1 is l3ram, map2 is extram
  • [08:20:26] <heeen> fyi
  • [08:20:31] <heeen> https://github.com/beagleboard/am335x_pru_package/blob/master/pru_sw/app_loader/interface/__prussdrv.h
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  • [08:27:49] <Shadyman> TIL
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  • [09:52:29] <beagle13> i was trying to setup a wifi ad-hoc network with my BBB.I gave static ip, essid and key.But the network didnot setup. Wlan0 is not attaining any ipv6 address.Can someone help me
  • [09:52:33] <das> the joys of having a gcc compiling gcc error, searching the web and finding a solution posted by your older self on the ML \o/
  • [10:05:14] <BobCat> you posted it in the future?
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  • [10:23:24] <NullCape> Hello i've a question is there a nullcape available for the bbb? like the adafruit for the bbw?
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  • [10:24:04] <tbr> what is a nullcape
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  • [10:26:52] <av500> I guess just a pcb with cape pins
  • [10:26:55] <av500> protocape?
  • [10:27:18] <NullCape> yeah
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  • [11:45:11] <florian_> Hello, is there still information on the Pico Projector ?
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  • [12:12:21] <BBB_NOOB> BBB , angstrom with RTL8188CUS -- poor rates, dropped connections, worth searching for solution?
  • [12:12:36] <BBB_NOOB> or just get another adapter?
  • [12:13:07] <av500> anything in dmesg?
  • [12:13:10] <av500> maybe power issues
  • [12:15:33] <BBB_NOOB> ill check dmesg but it is with a 2a adapter straight tothe usb
  • [12:15:52] <BBB_NOOB> had worked for a while 10/12 mbps on speedtest frmo client
  • [12:16:04] <BBB_NOOB> now at < 1 mbps up and down
  • [12:18:47] <BBB_NOOB> issue_nulldata(wlan0) to xx;xx;xx
  • [12:19:04] <BBB_NOOB> ill google that
  • [12:19:11] <BBB_NOOB> thanks, im new at *nix
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  • [12:29:11] <tbr> USB wifi is generally problematic. Also I'd strongly suggest to power the beagle through the barrel connector. If you power it through USB it might boot in low power mode.
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  • [13:20:17] <mistawright> is there any reason my beaglebone black will not boot an sd card with arch linux on it? could this be due to debian being flashed on the miicrosd card?
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  • [13:29:48] <vmayoral|pc> mistawright: that sounds weird. I believe it should be fine. Have you wired up the serial cable and debugged it?
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  • [13:36:37] <mistawright> vmayoral|pc, no serial cable starting to think its about time i get one. do you recommend any one in particular
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  • [13:37:17] <vmayoral|pc> http://www.amazon.com/3-3V-Debug-Cable-BeagleBone-Black/dp/B00FA7LD0Y
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  • [13:51:12] <mistawright> ehhh. amazon doesnt take paypal. guess i'll have to use my paypal funds for quadcopter parts etc.
  • [13:51:21] <mistawright> looks like its good to have anyway
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  • [13:52:40] <mistawright> would a usb to rs232 ttl adapter work as well?
  • [13:53:31] <johnwalkr> i missed the original question but ttl is usually 5v
  • [13:53:40] <johnwalkr> don’t use that wiht the beaglebone serial port
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  • [13:56:32] <mistawright> johnwalkr, would this work for the beaglebone black?
  • [13:56:49] <mistawright> trying to avoid amazon or paying $20 bucks for a cable
  • [13:56:58] <johnwalkr> what are you trying to do, and what is the rs232 ttl adapter you have?
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  • [13:59:24] <johnwalkr> these are really useful to have on hand for problems like this: https://www.sparkfun.com/products/12009
  • [13:59:34] <mistawright> i am looking to purchase one to see why i cant boot archlinux on my beaglebone black and it would help as I have been trying to get my own kernel onto the beaglebone but had issues with ubuntu 14.04 booting it as I had no uInitrd to modify
  • [13:59:54] <mistawright> http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-USB-to-TTL-Serial-Cable-Adapter-FTDI-Chipset-PL2303HX-USB-Cable-Computer-/261443410595?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cdf3ddaa3
  • [14:00:14] <mistawright> i figured i would buy this as its voltage seems to be 3.3v according to the auction
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  • [14:01:54] <johnwalkr> yup, that will work
  • [14:01:57] <johnwalkr> confirmed here: http://www.adafruit.com/datasheets/PL2303HX.pdf
  • [14:02:29] <johnwalkr> (that’s the IC it says it has)
  • [14:02:29] <mistawright> i just noticed it was 4 pin versus 6 pin
  • [14:02:43] <johnwalkr> that’s ok
  • [14:03:35] <johnwalkr> you only need rx, tx and ground
  • [14:04:19] <johnwalkr> the other pins are for hardware flo control which isn’t very common anymore (and not needed for beaglebone)(
  • [14:04:39] <mistawright> cool. thanks for the help. just purchased it
  • [14:05:50] <johnwalkr> great
  • [14:06:13] <johnwalkr> good to have around
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  • [15:17:08] <upwardindex> Here’s a fun one: eth0 does not come up on BB A6 but it comes up on BB A3 (same sd card)
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  • [15:18:53] <dogrocket> hello... im having problems compiling rcnelsons debian/ubuntu on x86 ubuntu 14.04
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  • [15:20:04] <upwardindex> somehow there is an eth2 in ifconfig -a ?
  • [15:20:28] <dogrocket> that doesnt sound right
  • [15:21:20] <dogrocket> anyone any good at kernel compiling issues?
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  • [15:26:11] <dogrocket> anyone know where to get this file? gcc: error trying to exec 'cc1': execvp: No such file
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  • [15:27:29] <dogrocket> in ubuntu, ive downloaded gcc 4.8, g++, gcc 4.8 armhf cross comiler..,. wtf
  • [15:28:51] <upwardindex> dogrocket: have you installed build-essential ?
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  • [15:33:31] <ogra_> apt-get install gcc-arm-linux-gnueabihf build-essential ...
  • [15:33:43] <ogra_> that should give you all yoou need, properly integrated and ready to use
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  • [15:34:31] <ogra_> (or gcc-4.8-arm-linux-gnueabihf in case you are on an older release and 4.8 isnt the default)
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  • [15:36:14] <dogrocket> checking... gcc-4.8-arm-linux-gneuabifh is one i getted
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  • [15:36:56] <ogra_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ARMKernelCrossCompile has some hints ...
  • [15:36:58] <upwardindex> I dont think you should install gcc-arm-linux-… RCN’s build scripts will fetch the toolchain from linaro or seomthing
  • [15:37:46] <ogra_> should be identical
  • [15:37:59] <ogra_> ubuntu develops the arm toolchain in linaro and syncs from there
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  • [15:38:33] <dogrocket> build essential didnt help
  • [15:38:37] <upwardindex> dogrocket: here is what i followed without any issue: http://adis.ca/post/debian-wheezy-beaglebone-black/
  • [15:39:26] <dogrocket> thx will try
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  • [15:42:05] <dogrocket> nope it says i have all the newest versions of everything
  • [15:42:26] <dogrocket> what is cc1 a c compiler?
  • [15:42:30] <ogra_> and you did the exports like the above wikipage describes ?
  • [15:42:41] <ogra_> (thats why i pointed it to you)
  • [15:43:17] <dogrocket> make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=${CC} distclean works
  • [15:43:46] <dogrocket> make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=${CC} am335x_evm_config works
  • [15:44:01] <ogra_> thats not on tegh page i posted
  • [15:44:08] <ogra_> export $(dpkg-architecture -aarmhf); export CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux-gnueabihf-
  • [15:44:16] <dogrocket> make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=${CC} doesnt work
  • [15:44:19] <ogra_> cd your/kernel/tree
  • [15:44:20] <ogra_> make
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  • [15:46:05] <ogra_> (probably needs ARCH=arm exported too... but that should be all you need if using the ubuntu cross toolchain)
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  • [15:51:37] <dogrocket> i even copied cc1 i found to /usr/bin and it gives me other errors
  • [15:52:14] <dogrocket> gcc: fatal error: -fuse-linker-plugin, but liblto_plugin.so not found
  • [15:52:31] <dogrocket> its like librarys are missing
  • [15:52:57] <dogrocket> will remove and reinstall gcc
  • [15:54:34] <dogrocket> nope
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  • [15:59:54] <dogrocket> i give up, spent 14 hours trying to figure this out... lol
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  • [16:00:49] <dogrocket> will reinstall ubuntu
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  • [16:14:28] <dogrocket> so after i install a new version of ubuntu do i need to install build-essential and other stuff or will default system have what i need to run kernel config
  • [16:15:24] <dogrocket> i think it should install gcc 4.8 by default... but not sure
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  • [16:18:07] <ogra_> see the ubuntu wikipage i pasted above
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  • [16:19:34] <ogra_> you might not need the packging tools if you only want to build a zImage ...
  • [16:19:57] <ogra_> (i.e. fakeroot or kernel-wedge ... but installing them wont do any harm)
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  • [16:20:31] <dogrocket> ok
  • [16:20:33] <ogra_> install the packages it lists at the top
  • [16:20:46] <ogra_> grab your kernel tree ... configure it
  • [16:21:01] <ogra_> export $(dpkg-architecture -aarmhf); export CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux-gnueabihf-; export ARCH=arm
  • [16:21:07] <ogra_> cd in your kernel tree
  • [16:21:18] <ogra_> run the make command you want
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  • [16:41:25] <BUCKSFC> New BBB owner.....what is everyone else working on?
  • [16:42:21] <dogrocket> ok thanks much ogra
  • [16:42:21] <dogrocket> i had old version of ununtu 13.04, and was able to write kernels fine before, but then i upgraded to unbuntu 14.04 , and things went south from there
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  • [16:43:45] <BUCKSFC> How did 13.04 run on your BBB
  • [16:43:51] <H-H-H> a home automation system using a beaglebone white with a few arduinos an rtc and a gsm module
  • [16:44:17] <BUCKSFC> cool that sounds like a project!
  • [16:44:55] <BUCKSFC> I made an alarm clock with 700 lines of code....was my first real coding project
  • [16:45:01] <BUCKSFC> on my arduino
  • [16:45:24] <BUCKSFC> That GSM shield must open some opportunities
  • [16:45:53] <BUCKSFC> Checked out that Ninja Blocks for ideas?
  • [16:46:15] <johnwalkr> BUCKSFC: lunar rover prototype
  • [16:47:58] <BUCKSFC> thats cool! I though about doing a weather balloon project one....imagine getting that guy into orbit!
  • [16:48:05] <BUCKSFC> once*
  • [16:49:01] <johnwalkr> i’m using it as a stand-in for an fpga for image processing stuff, basically
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  • [16:49:11] <johnwalkr> in the meantie until someone gets around to making that for me
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  • [16:53:16] <BUCKSFC> cool, not sure what my first project is going to be on the BBB. I made an amilight for XBMC with my PI.
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  • [17:09:19] <__butch__> Hey guys, I have an interesting problem.
  • [17:09:47] <__butch__> I just got my Rev C board, and I dd'ed the latest debian image to SD. I boot off that.
  • [17:10:15] <__butch__> The BBB comes up seemingly just fine, but after 9 or 10 minutes, it kernel panics and shuts down.
  • [17:10:33] <__butch__> During the 10 minutes it's up, it works fine.
  • [17:10:39] <__butch__> Here's the output of the boot: https://gist.github.com/ButchAnton/53c9af28ad6e52b43a82
  • [17:11:13] <__butch__> Any ideas?
  • [17:12:08] <puckipedia> what?
  • [17:12:10] <puckipedia> wow
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  • [17:23:39] <__butch__> It seems, however, that running of eMMC works fine with the same (I think) image. Bad SD card?
  • [17:24:03] <__butch__> Of course, now that I've said that it runs fine off eMMC, I'm sure it will panic in the next 30 seconds or so. :-)
  • [17:24:13] <johnwalkr> power is always the first thing to check
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  • [17:27:45] <rocketdawg> I am using the USB HOST port with a WiFi card. I installed everything necessary to make that work. Bt I need USB0 for my own device port. BBB installs a composite device with CDC, MSD, ... How do I go about removng that stuff and installing my own device. looks like it it in uboot
  • [17:29:44] <__butch__> @johnwalkr powered by 5V wall wart.
  • [17:29:50] <__butch__> No usb connections at all
  • [17:29:57] <__butch__> The only thing connected to it is the serial cable.
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  • [17:30:11] <johnwalkr> trying another one is still useful but i would also suspect the sd card i guess
  • [17:31:25] <__butch__> Trying a different (not rev C) BBB with the SD card.
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  • [17:54:58] <__butch__> Yeah, it panic'ed in this BBB as well. I'm voting for bad SD card.
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  • [18:11:56] <johnwalkr> yup butch or somethign weird abotu that image, but that seems unlikely
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  • [18:12:41] <Phantazmo> i used a 12v power on my beaglebone black, smoke came out wat do?
  • [18:13:07] <foreverska> buy a new one?
  • [18:13:30] <Phantazmo> I can't replace a part?
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  • [18:14:37] <foreverska> Do you know how to reflow?
  • [18:14:47] <Phantazmo> No I dont
  • [18:15:28] <foreverska> Well.. then it would be severely rough, IF the 12v didn't make it to the AM335X. If it's done that you might as well buy a new board.
  • [18:15:44] <johnwalkr> even if you could replace it, the SOC is more expensive as a single part than the board
  • [18:16:03] <johnwalkr> if it’s the PMIC, you’d still need to answer yes to the reflow question
  • [18:17:08] <Phantazmo> Well I'll just buy a new board then. It just sucks to pay for the shipping
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  • [18:17:27] <johnwalkr> now the next thing
  • [18:17:32] <johnwalkr> finding a board to buy!
  • [18:17:37] <Phantazmo> Yay!
  • [18:17:50] <johnwalkr> \0/
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  • [18:18:31] <foreverska> I seem to always buy my boards at Radioshack but then again you have to buy them in $80 MAKE kits.
  • [18:19:16] <Phantazmo> thing is.. I'm in europe..
  • [18:19:34] <Phantazmo> No radioshacks around here
  • [18:19:51] <foreverska> Oh... well then... yea so about that shipping. lol
  • [18:20:24] <Phantazmo> Its like $100 to get it shipped
  • [18:21:24] <foreverska> O.o Geeze. What are you using it for?
  • [18:21:56] <Phantazmo> A project for work with GPIO
  • [18:22:32] <Phantazmo> I could use a raspberry
  • [18:22:42] <foreverska> I know the community is lesser with OLINUXINO but maybe you have those over there.
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  • [18:23:40] <Phantazmo> I havn't heard about it, I'll look into it
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  • [18:24:39] <foreverska> They're interesting. They go from A10-A20 processors and priced to sell.
  • [18:25:51] <foreverska> If it wasn't for my work with the PRU system of TI's processor I'd probably be using those. Base model has 160GPIOs
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  • [18:26:21] <Phantazmo> Cool
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  • [18:28:47] <johnwalkr> yeah i will probably pick one of those up
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  • [18:29:55] <foreverska> I've played with buying one to toy around with for awhile. I just don't have the project for it.
  • [18:30:15] <Phantazmo> Anyways I'm on my way to the bar see you guys!
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  • [20:57:16] <malcom2073> Question: What woudl cause HDMI to be dim and fuzzy on a BBB? It works, but it's about half the brightness it shouldbe, and there's a lot of interferance.
  • [20:57:43] <XorA> bad cable
  • [20:57:51] <XorA> I have one like that, just binned it
  • [20:58:00] <malcom2073> It's a HDMI to VGA converter
  • [20:58:05] <malcom2073> and it works on my PC, just not on the BBB
  • [20:58:14] <veremit> hahhahaha hdmi/vga converter
  • [20:58:20] <XorA> well thats my guess out :-)
  • [20:58:33] <veremit> they don't work on the bbb no.
  • [20:58:41] <malcom2073> veremit: Odd, the wiki says they do
  • [20:58:49] <veremit> well .. they sure didn't ...
  • [20:58:55] <veremit> which wiki you lookin at?
  • [20:59:00] <malcom2073> wait one
  • [20:59:06] <infinitum> hdmi handshake troubles >)
  • [20:59:31] <malcom2073> veremit: http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBone_Black_Accessories#HDMI_Type_A_to_VGA_M.2FF_with_3.5mm_Stereo_Adapter
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  • [21:00:34] <veremit> ok well looks like it does .. and you have ot put that EDID into the xorg by th elooks of things
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  • [21:00:42] <veremit> you won't get a display on console though I'm guessing
  • [21:01:09] <veremit> but maybe someone's fudged that .. its a few months since I was working with mine.
  • [21:01:27] <veremit> I had to bodge the driver into thinking there was a cable connected just to get RGB working
  • [21:01:28] <malcom2073> Console and Xorg both have display
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  • [21:01:35] <malcom2073> but it's dim and fuzzy heh
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  • [21:03:07] <extremefox> hey guys, i would like to ask you whats going on with BBs. Last weeks if i check supliers, nobpdy has BB or BBB, Everybody is out of stock. Is there any problem with manufacturing or goning to dead?
  • [21:04:54] <tbr> extremefox: no, people buy them faster than they are being manufactured. just order one from one of the distributors and you will have it in due time.
  • [21:05:24] <veremit> order and wait. That is The Way.
  • [21:05:26] <tbr> also several distributors had stock over the last week, but quickly sold out...
  • [21:05:30] <tbr> surprise
  • [21:06:08] <veremit> still awaitin ramp-ups in production .. big difference between supply and demand still
  • [21:06:09] <extremefox> oki , thanks ;)
  • [21:06:16] <veremit> maybe jkridner can shed some more light on it.
  • [21:07:36] <vagrantc> extremefox: http://beagleboard.org/blog/2014-04-13-dude-wheres-my-beaglebone-black/
  • [21:08:10] <veremit> that was the last news
  • [21:09:13] <vagrantc> still basically current, only a little further along in progress (i.e. the revC has been released now)
  • [21:09:34] <malcom2073> Ok another question, I'm trying to get my BBB to not require the USER/BOOT button to boot off SD card, followed these instructions: http://shrkey.com/setting-up-beaglebone-black-to-boot-off-the-microsd-card/ to no avail, it still boots to eMMC no matter what unless USER/BOOT is pressed.
  • [21:09:39] <malcom2073> So, am I missing something?
  • [21:10:16] <veremit> you'll need to fudge/break the eMMC bootloader
  • [21:10:34] <extremefox> thanks for article veremit
  • [21:10:51] <veremit> or vagrantc :P
  • [21:11:02] <extremefox> :) ok
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  • [21:11:12] <malcom2073> veremit: know of a writeup for how to do it? All the instructions I've found are near identical to that blog
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  • [21:13:36] <veremit> uhm .. not really .. I can't think what the order of boot is .. but I think it looks at eMMC first .. before uSD .. so you'd have to break that .. eg. by "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/mmcblkN bs=1M count=1" but be careful if ou do that
  • [21:13:56] <malcom2073> Odd, I wonder why it works for other people
  • [21:14:20] <veremit> the eMMC can boot the uSD if there's a valid signature
  • [21:14:35] <veremit> you don't HAVE to hold the boot .. so it does work .. I've never had to use the 'boot' button
  • [21:14:50] <malcom2073> I do have to hold it, otherwise ti won't boot to uSD
  • [21:14:54] <malcom2073> it*
  • [21:15:10] <veremit> perhaps its a featuer of the RCN bootloader I dunno.
  • [21:15:21] <veremit> someone else here might be able to shed some light on it
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  • [21:18:34] <upwardindex> I created a loopback on uart1, I echo “stuff” to it once but when I cat it I get an unlimited number of “stuff^J”
  • [21:18:48] <malcom2073> upwardindex: /dev/random
  • [21:18:49] <malcom2073> ?
  • [21:19:03] <upwardindex> ?
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  • [21:19:28] <malcom2073> upwardindex: That's where you can get an unlimited number of stuff from
  • [21:19:52] <upwardindex> you mean /dev/urandom ?
  • [21:20:00] <malcom2073> That works too
  • [21:20:12] <malcom2073> Whichever your system implements
  • [21:21:04] <upwardindex> perhaps there is some kind of echo feature enabled by default on debian on the serial port and it’s echoing to itself ad infinitum
  • [21:21:18] <malcom2073> Oh, I misread
  • [21:21:20] <malcom2073> I'm sorry
  • [21:21:30] <malcom2073> need to read more carefully heh
  • [21:21:31] <infinitum> to who ? >)
  • [21:23:29] <veremit> did you stty ?
  • [21:23:40] <veremit> sometimes if the port isn't configured it just gets crap or repeated
  • [21:25:23] <upwardindex> veremit: Yes, if I stty -echo I get nothing at all, if I stty echo I get the unlimited thing
  • [21:25:48] <veremit> stty -D /dev/<Blah> <bitrate>
  • [21:26:26] <veremit> if its unconfigured behaviour seems unpredictable
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  • [21:26:51] <upwardindex> -D is not a valid option, do you mean -F ?
  • [21:26:56] <veremit> yeah my bad
  • [21:27:15] <veremit> get my pic programmer wrong .. thats -F for file .. not D for device
  • [21:27:17] <veremit> -sigh
  • [21:28:55] <upwardindex> its very strange because I’m actually porting my application to debian and 3.14.4 and this uart thing is misbehaving. I did not expect any hurdles for such old stuff like uart
  • [21:29:31] <veremit> its old on x86 with 16550 uarts .. but I don't see one of them on the beagle ;) its custom hardware :p
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  • [21:44:05] <malcom2073> Yeah it seems I am goign to need to do something to the eMMC somehow, even with the latest ubuntu image it still won't boot to uSD without the user/boot button.
  • [21:44:46] <veremit> the hardware will be set to look at the eMMC by default .. unless you've hacked your board ;D
  • [21:45:37] <malcom2073> Right, but I'm doing something wrong, everyone else seems to be able to do it
  • [21:45:43] <malcom2073> not sure what they're doing differently
  • [21:46:08] <veremit> missing something small ;)
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  • [22:03:08] <raspberrypifan> i got the bone
  • [22:03:13] <raspberrypifan> but why does it have only one usb
  • [22:03:57] <malcom2073> Because it was designed that way.
  • [22:04:07] <malcom2073> Stick a USB hub on it if you want/need more
  • [22:04:26] <raspberrypifan> who would not need more then one port
  • [22:04:33] <malcom2073> I only need one
  • [22:05:47] <raspberrypifan> if u need one wifi then there goes ur port
  • [22:06:38] <malcom2073> Like I said, if you need more, stick a USB hub on it. Sorta like a raspberry pi, if you need more than two, you stick a hub on it
  • [22:07:09] <raspberrypifan> anyway
  • [22:07:12] <raspberrypifan> how do u turn this thing off
  • [22:07:23] <veremit> you need powered hub anyway to do anythiing useful
  • [22:07:25] <malcom2073> issue a half command and then unplug it
  • [22:07:30] <malcom2073> halt*
  • [22:07:36] <veremit> since you'lll be trying to run it of a stupid mini-B ...
  • [22:08:07] <raspberrypifan> i dont even have it doing anyhting
  • [22:08:10] <raspberrypifan> i just put the power supply on it
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  • [22:10:52] <raspberrypifan> hmm
  • [22:10:55] <raspberrypifan> that power butotn is so tiny
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  • [22:18:01] <malcom2073> Ok removed my HDMI/VGA converter, HDMI seems perfectly fine, so I'll just delegate the converter to other uses, the BBB doesn't like it. one issue down, hundred more to go :)
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