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  • [00:00:36] * Set by KotH!~attila@lou-outside.kinali.ch on Fri Apr 18 13:57:19 UTC 2014
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  • [00:14:50] <shawnbon206> nyt.. basic dimensions to this precision plz: .001
  • [00:14:58] <shawnbon206> "
  • [00:15:04] <shawnbon206> :D
  • [00:15:35] <shawnbon206> chop chop
  • [00:15:45] <shawnbon206> :D
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  • [00:19:28] <nyt-> will get to it tonight
  • [00:19:31] <nyt-> dealing w/ server upgrade fun atm
  • [00:19:36] <nyt-> keep reminding me
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  • [01:01:00] <jpfau> Hi, I'm looking for a small touchscreen cape for the BBB (4" is fine) that lets me use the pins that it's not using. Ideally, I'd like 30-32 pins on P9 and access to 3.3V and GND. Will I have to put a cape inbetween the touchscreen cape and the BBB, and if so, where should I look for that middle cape?
  • [01:01:33] <jpfau> (access to 5V is also good, but may not be required)
  • [01:03:30] <nyt-> yes i recommend using this
  • [01:05:02] <nyt-> http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/43-LCD-Cape-for-BeagleBone-Black-Touch-Display-p-1592.html
  • [01:05:03] <nyt-> for an lcd
  • [01:05:04] <nyt-> just works
  • [01:05:06] <nyt-> and for cape...
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  • [01:08:12] <jpfau> yeah that LCD looks good, but I still need access to ~32 GPIO pins for the other part of the project
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  • [01:11:19] <jpfau> is this what the breakout cape is for? http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/BEAGLEBONE-BREAKOUTCAPE/BEAGLEBONE-BREAKOUTCAPE-ND/2805398
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  • [01:13:34] <jpfau> I'm very novice when it comes to EE, unfortunately, so I'm still trying to figure all this stuff out
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  • [03:12:26] <nyt-> sorry got distracted
  • [03:12:27] <nyt-> this is good
  • [03:12:41] <nyt-> http://www.adafruit.com/products/572
  • [03:12:42] <nyt-> and
  • [03:12:52] <nyt-> http://www.adafruit.com/products/706
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  • [03:31:02] <vagrantc> anyone know what kernel config options are needed to support the BBB with LCD7 cape?
  • [03:31:59] <veremit> I thought there was a device-tree file for it ..
  • [03:32:08] <veremit> or is that just the 3/4
  • [03:32:45] <veremit> or possibly I'm thinking of a cape config ..
  • [03:33:21] <vagrantc> well, you oth need the drivers enabled in the kernel as well as the device-tree bits...
  • [03:33:46] <nyt-> none
  • [03:33:47] <nyt-> it just works
  • [03:33:51] <nyt-> with the 4d ones anyway
  • [03:33:58] <nyt-> touch screen and all
  • [03:34:01] <nyt-> at least with latest debian images
  • [03:36:29] <vagrantc> yes, i know that.
  • [03:36:57] <vagrantc> but when building a custom kernel, what's the config option
  • [03:38:04] <veremit> probably in some strange menu ..
  • [03:38:29] <veremit> is there a kernel config for the debian images?
  • [03:38:38] <veremit> rcn enables everything .. almost .. lol
  • [03:38:56] <vagrantc> well, i've got the whole config used for the debian images, but there are LOTS of options to enable. I'd rather not take a shotgun approach.
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  • [03:55:01] <nyt-> go with rnc's config as a base
  • [03:55:03] <nyt-> it works
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  • [05:20:36] <Rushi_> hello
  • [05:20:55] <Rushi_> power ic can be damaged or not?
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  • [05:23:18] <dnivra> hello everyone! I'm trying to boot a beagleboard using an SD card and when I connect to a monitor using an HDMI to VGA converter, there is no display output. I copied the Angstrom TI GNOME 2012 image using image writer as describe in http://beagleboard.org/Getting%20Started#update so I guess that's right. Is it safe to assume the board might be faulty?
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  • [05:35:02] <nyt-> you cant connect hdmi to vga
  • [05:35:08] <nyt-> hdmi to dvi ok
  • [05:35:11] <nyt-> hdmi to vga no
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  • [05:39:46] <dnivra> nyt-: Oh I didn't know that! Is it something specific to the beagle boards?
  • [05:40:13] <veremit> it'd have to regenerate the vga signals from the hdmi digital
  • [05:40:17] <dnivra> I've used the converter to connect a Raspberry Pi before so I assumed it would work(probably shouldn't have done so).
  • [05:40:40] <veremit> go buy a decent monitor
  • [05:40:43] <veremit> and a network switch
  • [05:40:44] <veremit> :)
  • [05:41:47] <dnivra> (stduent here) wish I could afford one :)
  • [05:42:17] <dnivra> I guess I'll look for an HDMI to DVI converter.
  • [05:43:12] <dnivra> So even using an HDMI to VGA converter with a beaglebone black wouldn't work I suppose?
  • [05:43:46] <veremit> no
  • [05:43:54] <veremit> vga - analogye
  • [05:43:59] <veremit> hdmi - digital
  • [05:44:09] <veremit> analogue*
  • [05:44:15] <dnivra> yup got it :).
  • [05:44:42] <dnivra> thanks veremit and nyt-!
  • [05:45:17] <veremit> the beagle needs to detect the display its connected to .. which is typically done over a specific protocol as part of the hdmi
  • [05:45:56] <dnivra> I see and probably the HDMI to VGA converter I'm using doesn't do that translation properly.
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  • [05:46:12] <veremit> I think its entierly different for vga
  • [05:46:42] <veremit> if indeed its present
  • [05:49:43] <dnivra> Apparently the conveter shown here works: http://papermint-designs.com/community/node/276.
  • [05:49:56] <veremit> go for it then
  • [05:52:07] <dnivra> Yeah I'll check it out. Thanks again veremit!
  • [05:52:45] <veremit> just remember everything won't be a complete walk in the park .. but an interesting and rewarding learning experience lol
  • [05:54:15] <dnivra> Yeah - I've not worked on hardware a lot so it's going to be extra interesting I suppose :).
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  • [06:15:50] <veremit> ok time for sleep .. niters.
  • [06:17:32] <veremit> ok time for sleep .. niters.
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  • [09:03:19] <nlminhtl|home> hi guys, when I try to do echo bone_pwm_P9_14 > /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots all is okay, but if I try to somethin with a pin from P8 like echo bone_pwm_P8_14 > /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots beaglebone will restart itself, what's wrong?
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  • [11:59:04] <mus_know> hello , i cannot register my project via beagleboard.org, gives me login then error finding page
  • [12:00:49] <mus_know> hello
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  • [12:39:48] <Rapter> Hello
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  • [13:43:08] <tverrbjelke> (using c++)
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  • [18:49:17] <spce> HI
  • [18:49:47] <spce> Wondering if there is a good tutorial that goes with this board
  • [18:50:52] <agmlego> Tutorial to do what with it?
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  • [18:51:47] <veremit> so many choices.
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  • [18:55:07] <rocky|quadcopter> I'm cross compiling the beaglebone kernel. Both my host and target is Debian. I only see gcc eabi on my host, but the beagle is using gcc eabihf. Is this going to be a problem?
  • [18:55:40] <veremit> probably .. one is hardware floating-point, the other software
  • [18:55:43] <veremit> most likely
  • [18:56:42] <rocky|quadcopter> That's what I thought. Am I going to need to build gcc eabihf from source then? I haven't had any luck finding a precompiled package.
  • [18:56:59] <agmlego> Probably.
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  • [18:57:56] <rocky|quadcopter> blarg. ok then
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  • [19:04:14] <veremit> rocky|quadcopter ... the linaro toolchain is known to be quite reliable
  • [19:04:21] <veremit> if you use gentoo, you can build your own
  • [19:04:36] <veremit> using crosstool
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  • [19:05:12] <rocky|quadcopter> I'm actually on arch right now. I was going to build it on my debian vps because it had cross compiling tools readily available, but they aren't the right abi
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  • [19:08:55] <veremit> depends on the vps .. don't think anyone's created a bespoke beagle one yet :)
  • [19:12:28] <rocky|quadcopter> it may be insane, but I'm going to go ahead and try building the kernel on an eabi compiler.
  • [19:12:44] <veremit> its gonna hurt ;p
  • [19:12:46] <veremit> and probably not work :D
  • [19:13:56] <veremit> https://launchpad.net/linaro-toolchain-binaries/trunk/2013.10/+download/gcc-linaro-arm-linux-gnueabihf-4.8-2013.10_runtime.tar.bz2
  • [19:14:04] <veremit> you know you want to :P
  • [19:14:41] <rocky|quadcopter> yeah, that'll be easier. does it matter that the debian on beaglebone doesn't use linaro? At least it doesn't appear to use it.
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  • [19:15:12] <veremit> doesn't matter .. its binaries .. so you just unzip them .. and make sure you set path or prefix your CC
  • [19:15:26] <rocky|quadcopter> or that it's on a different gcc versions?
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  • [19:15:44] <veremit> uhm yeah .. not sure what the beagle distro -does- use .. but I've compiled a stack of kernels with linaro no probs
  • [19:15:56] <veremit> I'd be surprised if it wasn't .. given RCN's involvement
  • [19:16:15] <rocky|quadcopter> I'll give it a shot then. Thanks veremit!
  • [19:16:32] <veremit> np
  • [19:16:35] <veremit> good luck!
  • [19:17:06] <rocky|quadcopter> thanks. I'm generating setup instructions for my quadcopter senior design project.
  • [19:17:21] <rocky|quadcopter> this will definitely be less painful for the enduser than compiling their own gcc
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  • [19:18:48] <rocky|quadcopter> wait now, this is just kernel modules...
  • [19:19:51] <veremit> sorry possibly wrong link
  • [19:19:55] <veremit> there's a bloody stack on the linaro page
  • [19:20:07] <veremit> I just wget <Blah> but I don't have that system in front of me.
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  • [19:20:59] <rocky|quadcopter> I think I found them
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  • [19:21:53] <Guest10260> Hello - can someone explain me how to run xenomai kernel on bbb? And if i can use the internal storage? Cant find a good docu :(
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  • [19:22:40] <rocky|quadcopter> Guest10260: I'm actually setting up xenomai as we speak.
  • [19:22:47] <rocky|quadcopter> good timing!
  • [19:22:58] <Guest10260> Great =)
  • [19:22:59] <rocky|quadcopter> here's the guide I'm following: http://brunosmartins.info/xenomai-on-the-beaglebone-black-in-14-easy-steps/
  • [19:23:12] <rocky|quadcopter> so far it's been smooth, besides getting the right compiler.
  • [19:23:29] <Guest10260> Yeah this i found too but got failure by compile the kernel
  • [19:23:37] <rocky|quadcopter> at what stage?
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  • [19:24:05] <Guest10260> Step 9
  • [19:24:39] <rocky|quadcopter> let me be more specific. What was the message when it failed? If it's long, use pastiebin
  • [19:25:01] <Guest10260> Wait have to start linux
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  • [19:32:18] <veremit> if you're really lucky .. the author visits here occasionally :)
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  • [20:09:05] <rocky|quadcopter> veremit: I don't think this is linaro specific, but even when I go to the bin directory, run ./arm-linux-gnueabihf-gcc, bash reports that the file doesn't exist. Ideas?
  • [20:09:18] <rocky|quadcopter> It clearly exists.
  • [20:09:25] <veremit> you'll need to set a make variable
  • [20:09:37] <rocky|quadcopter> to even be able to run it alone on the command line?
  • [20:09:48] <veremit> something like CC=<your-path-to-bin>prefix-eabi-blah-blah- make
  • [20:09:55] <veremit> I think so
  • [20:10:30] <veremit> rocky .. take a look at .. http://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone+Black
  • [20:10:52] <veremit> you don't need the uboot bits obviously
  • [20:11:01] <veremit> and dont worry so much about RN's patches ..
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  • [20:11:28] <rocky|quadcopter> I am looking at it. I followed the directions for downloading and extracting linaro
  • [20:11:36] <rocky|quadcopter> I set CC
  • [20:12:05] <rocky|quadcopter> but when I run their test it fails. When I cd to its bin directory, and try running it their, it still fails.
  • [20:12:18] <rocky|quadcopter> bash claims the files doesn't exist. I'm not sure why it can't see it.
  • [20:12:21] <veremit> ${CC}gcc --version ?
  • [20:12:26] <nyt-> sounds like you need ia32 support or its or a dif architecture
  • [20:12:34] <nyt-> last or should read for
  • [20:12:39] <veremit> ah .. have you got ia32-libs ?
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  • [20:13:55] <rocky|quadcopter> no, I don't... I just tried installing them, and apt is saying it can't meet some dependencies. I can take care of this myself (probably)
  • [20:14:14] <nyt-> what dist?
  • [20:14:22] <nyt-> sounds broke
  • [20:14:34] <rocky|quadcopter> it's debian, but I'm still on the vps. It doesn't use the main debian repos.
  • [20:14:51] <veremit> fun :)
  • [20:14:56] <rocky|quadcopter> I know, right?
  • [20:15:05] <rocky|quadcopter> maybe I should just build it on my laptop. Arch is nice.
  • [20:15:24] <veremit> probably easier :)
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  • [20:15:30] <rocky|quadcopter> yeah
  • [20:17:43] <rocky|quadcopter> isn't ia32 itanium?
  • [20:18:11] <veremit> its 32bit libs for 64 bit systems.. the toolchain is only 32bit
  • [20:18:18] <veremit> dunno why there isn't a 64bit version yet
  • [20:18:43] <rocky|quadcopter> but I'm under the impression that ia is for itanium. That is an entirely separate architecture from x86
  • [20:19:01] <veremit> think thats a mis-noma lol
  • [20:19:01] <nyt-> its not
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  • [20:20:01] <rocky|quadcopter> well in any case, it is working on arch
  • [20:20:41] <nyt-> ia = intel architecture
  • [20:22:21] <nyt-> dunno where you got itanium from =]
  • [20:22:24] <rocky|quadcopter> yay wikipedia
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  • [20:22:30] <rocky|quadcopter> Yeah, idk.
  • [20:22:45] <rocky|quadcopter> what's the prefix for itanium then?
  • [20:22:52] <nyt-> slow typing atm, on phone using android irc lol
  • [20:22:58] <nyt-> itanium oh god uhm
  • [20:23:07] <rocky|quadcopter> it's ok. And thanks for all the help guys
  • [20:23:21] <nyt-> ia-64
  • [20:23:22] <nyt-> lol
  • [20:23:29] <rocky|quadcopter> well there's the confusion!
  • [20:23:32] <nyt-> itanium architectur ehaha
  • [20:23:43] <rocky|quadcopter> I'm gonna be afk for a bit.
  • [20:23:44] <vagrantc> not to be confused with x86_64
  • [20:24:12] <nyt-> itanium flopped
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  • [20:31:39] <veremit> I think even I got that lol ..
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  • [20:33:58] <rocky|quadcopter> yay patching finished. That always takes awhile
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  • [20:38:38] <rocky|quadcopter> and off goes the compilation!
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  • [20:52:20] <veremit> rocky .. know any good xyz-linux -> arch overview .. wanna get starte with arch .. been using gentoo, but the whole compiling thing every week just doesn't happen
  • [20:52:33] <veremit> I see network interfaces are called something odd already :(
  • [20:52:55] <veremit> I bet init system is different
  • [20:52:58] <rocky|quadcopter> veremit: like wlan0 becoming something like wlp3s0?
  • [20:53:03] <rocky|quadcopter> arch uses systemd
  • [20:53:03] <veremit> yea
  • [20:53:21] <veremit> *groan* guess I might have to just take the plunge
  • [20:53:28] <rocky|quadcopter> the interface thing is so that they are stable. You might have, for example, eth0 become eth1 on different boots
  • [20:53:37] <veremit> oh its terrible
  • [20:53:46] <veremit> udev should fix that though .. theoretically
  • [20:53:56] <rocky|quadcopter> this way if you have firewall settings bound to a particular interface, you can count on it staying the same.
  • [20:53:59] <rocky|quadcopter> what's terrible?
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  • [20:54:22] <veremit> having a build eg. on a stick .. plugging it into a system .. eth5 shows up -sigh-
  • [20:54:41] <veremit> thats udev rules .. delete them and its eth0 :D
  • [20:54:49] <rocky|quadcopter> heh
  • [20:54:52] <rocky|quadcopter> anyway
  • [20:55:02] <rocky|quadcopter> the arch wiki is very good.
  • [20:55:14] <veremit> yeah I've read a lof of it for other reasons
  • [20:55:35] <rocky|quadcopter> it seems like almost every package has a page, and most have very good docs for at least basic usage
  • [20:55:39] <rocky|quadcopter> and configuration
  • [20:57:21] <veremit> hmm I know what to do .. baptism of fire .. new work pc ..will be arch .. eek :D
  • [20:57:33] <rocky|quadcopter> you'll be fine :)
  • [20:57:39] <veremit> Ill do one last build of gentoo
  • [20:58:02] <veremit> been using my debian box .. not too bad .. xfce so much slicker than kde lol
  • [20:58:12] <veremit> but I miss a few kde features
  • [20:58:13] <rocky|quadcopter> I use xmonad personally
  • [20:58:38] <rocky|quadcopter> there you are zImage.
  • [20:59:03] <veremit> you ok with a zimage? I found how to make it a uimage once
  • [20:59:16] <rocky|quadcopter> you just say make uImage. It's no secret
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  • [20:59:34] <veremit> yeah lol but you need the package which makes the U bit :p
  • [20:59:43] <rocky|quadcopter> ?
  • [20:59:47] <rocky|quadcopter> oh
  • [20:59:47] <rocky|quadcopter> right
  • [20:59:49] <veremit> :)
  • [20:59:52] <veremit> yup
  • [20:59:53] <rocky|quadcopter> that's uboot isn't it?
  • [20:59:57] <rocky|quadcopter> or something else
  • [20:59:57] <veremit> think so
  • [21:00:02] <veremit> not done it for a while
  • [21:00:04] <rocky|quadcopter> meh
  • [21:00:07] <rocky|quadcopter> zImage will work fine
  • [21:00:08] <veremit> zImage ftw
  • [21:00:17] <veremit> as long as ua uboot supports it :)
  • [21:00:19] <rocky|quadcopter> I don't really care either way as long as it works
  • [21:00:23] <veremit> yup
  • [21:00:31] <rocky|quadcopter> ok, here we go!
  • [21:00:41] <rocky|quadcopter> GONNA INSTALL THE #(*$# OUT OF THIS KERNEL!
  • [21:01:50] <rocky|quadcopter> why is the debian installation so big.....
  • [21:02:13] <rocky|quadcopter> It'd be nice to have have an image without the gui
  • [21:02:24] <rocky|quadcopter> I've only over used it once. It was way to slow. Terminals ftw
  • [21:02:25] <veremit> yeah .. rcn's minimal is fine :)
  • [21:02:36] <veremit> eewiki.net .. again ;)
  • [21:02:41] <veremit> look for rootfs section
  • [21:02:44] <veremit> all tar'd ready to go :D
  • [21:03:05] <rocky|quadcopter> I'd like to avoid using a non-standard debian installation though
  • [21:03:45] <rocky|quadcopter> I guess it's already nonstandard with the xenomai built in, but at least it's still working off the same base as the offical installation
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  • [21:04:15] <rocky|quadcopter> where do the kernel modules install to?
  • [21:05:19] <rocky|quadcopter> meh
  • [21:07:23] * rocky|quadcopter is starting to think he should just provide an image and instructions for flashing it.
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  • [21:09:56] <pjustice> /lib/modules, generally
  • [21:10:28] <rocky|quadcopter> I mispoke. Where do they compile to. But I just mounted my target over sshfs and used make to install them instead
  • [21:10:36] <pjustice> if you do standard debian install, uncheck everything but whatever it calls base, plus maybe "ssh server"
  • [21:10:40] <rocky|quadcopter> rather than manually figuring it out
  • [21:11:56] <rocky|quadcopter> pjustice: I'll take a look
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  • [21:12:19] <veremit> oh you'll need to find . -name "*.ko"
  • [21:12:23] <veremit> they're in every driver folder
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  • [21:12:30] <rocky|quadcopter> I just used the make
  • [21:12:33] <rocky|quadcopter> it did it for me.
  • [21:12:34] <veremit> yup
  • [21:12:36] <veremit> easy enough
  • [21:12:41] <veremit> make modules_install :)
  • [21:12:46] <rocky|quadcopter> indeed sir
  • [21:13:17] <rocky|quadcopter> there is only 20MB of space left on the bone.
  • [21:13:31] <rocky|quadcopter> gonna go uninstall stuff
  • [21:14:27] <veremit> lol yeah you don't wanna build/etc all the other crap on there
  • [21:14:42] <veremit> just the minimal stuff you NEED on the beagle itself :p
  • [21:15:08] <rocky|quadcopter> pjustice: I tried removing the group x11, but for some reason it wanted to take node with it
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  • [21:15:27] <nyt-> lol dont waste your time
  • [21:15:31] <nyt-> with arch
  • [21:15:32] <nyt-> rofl
  • [21:15:40] <rocky|quadcopter> >.>
  • [21:15:40] <nyt-> just use buntu and deb and be happy everything works
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  • [21:16:03] <veremit> just usng arch to cross-compile .. leave the bloke alone :P~
  • [21:16:10] <veremit> rofl . chanserv shutting down
  • [21:16:20] <pjustice> rocky|quadcopter, trying to remove groups after the fact is usually like that
  • [21:16:46] <nyt-> buntu has good xcompile
  • [21:16:47] <nyt-> better than deb
  • [21:16:53] <rocky|quadcopter> I've tried debian, ubuntu, opensuse, fedora, mint, and surely many others. I'm happiest on arch.
  • [21:17:44] <nyt-> i have to run thousands of servers, anything other than ubuntu or debian makes me want to dropkick a puppy
  • [21:18:02] <rocky|quadcopter> I can understand that on a server.
  • [21:18:09] <rocky|quadcopter> But for a PC, arch does fine.
  • [21:18:15] <nyt-> ahhh
  • [21:18:17] <nyt-> see
  • [21:18:19] <nyt-> i <3 linux and all
  • [21:18:22] <nyt-> but wont run it on thed esktop
  • [21:18:38] <nyt-> but right now i have like 6 terminals open
  • [21:18:45] <pjustice> ubuntu and debian are doing their best to make me want to dropkick puppies on servers too, these days, but that's beside the point
  • [21:18:55] <nyt-> pjustice: upstart ;)
  • [21:19:00] <nyt-> haha why for you?
  • [21:19:03] <pjustice> this is why we can't have nice things
  • [21:19:15] <nyt-> i had some fun last night on a buntu box with apparmor disabled
  • [21:19:22] <nyt-> apparently mysql start loads apparmor profile
  • [21:19:22] <pjustice> dependency hell, desktop crazy, replcaing perfectly functional stuff like init
  • [21:19:28] <nyt-> without apparmor, script fails, fails to start
  • [21:19:55] <pjustice> and don't get me started about the client side font *(#%^&*()
  • [21:20:11] <nyt-> lol
  • [21:20:12] <nyt-> fonts
  • [21:20:23] <pjustice> though that's not an issue on our servers
  • [21:20:33] <rocky|quadcopter> Let's see if it'll boot on xenomai!
  • [21:22:13] <nyt-> so someone actually used my library to build something finally
  • [21:22:19] <rocky|quadcopter> wooooooo
  • [21:22:27] <rocky|quadcopter> which library?
  • [21:22:33] <nyt-> working pipboy with rad detection, gps, music playing, touch screen, etc
  • [21:22:39] <nyt-> http://github.com/notnyt/beaglebone
  • [21:23:24] <rocky|quadcopter> it booted!
  • [21:23:45] <rocky|quadcopter> *sigh of relief*
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  • [21:28:16] <rocky|quadcopter> now I just need to build the userspace stuff
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  • [21:30:57] <rocky|quadcopter> ls
  • [21:31:03] <veremit> you find ubuntu is secure enough for a server?
  • [21:31:12] <veremit> depends on ya server I gues .. I contemplated it for a while
  • [21:31:20] <veremit> company VPS is CentOS though
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  • [21:31:25] <rocky|quadcopter> I'm using debian minimal for my server right now
  • [21:31:26] <veremit> wb Chanserv!
  • [21:32:34] <rocky|quadcopter> I like it because it is minimalistic. I know all the processes and why they are running.
  • [21:33:49] <rocky|quadcopter> woo
  • [21:33:52] <rocky|quadcopter> xenomai is working!
  • [21:34:02] <rocky|quadcopter> Guest10260:
  • [21:34:23] <veremit> cool .. grats .. what extras did you need, out of interest?
  • [21:34:25] <veremit> to the kernel?
  • [21:34:43] <rocky|quadcopter> I'm not sure what you mean. I just needed xenomai
  • [21:34:49] <rocky|quadcopter> for the quadcopter
  • [21:37:35] <nyt-> i run custom stuff for systems that need real security
  • [21:37:40] <nyt-> grsec with rbac
  • [21:37:49] <nyt-> i have code in grsec lol
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  • [21:46:04] <rocky|quadcopter> yeah, just removing the x11 group took out way more than it needed to.
  • [21:46:14] <rocky|quadcopter> seriously, how is the PRU involved with x11.
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  • [21:48:01] <rocky|quadcopter> so guess who is going to be reinstalling debian!
  • [21:48:11] <rocky|quadcopter> I might take you up on that advice veremit
  • [21:49:20] <rocky|quadcopter> does rcn's minimal completely minimal? Or does it include support for beaglebone features like PRU
  • [21:49:37] <veremit> dunno actually
  • [21:49:42] <veremit> I should imagine so
  • [21:49:53] <veremit> could try the comments see if anyone has posted
  • [21:50:02] <veremit> if not .. can't be difficult to reinstate
  • [21:50:38] <rocky|quadcopter> shouldn't be. My kernel I built has it, so it yeah, it shouldn't be bad
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  • [21:53:28] <rocky|quadcopter> It doesn't look like it actually removed the PRU stuff. Weird.
  • [21:53:53] <rocky|quadcopter> heh, but openssl is a heartbleed vulnerable one
  • [21:55:06] <rocky|quadcopter> let's see if I can get the quadcopter to fly on this
  • [21:55:28] <rocky|quadcopter> or at least see if the PRU is working. If it is, then everything else should fall into place.
  • [21:55:38] <veremit> kewl
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  • [21:55:57] <veremit> ok I badly nee d to stretch .. this is a FAR from optimal configuration for long0term use of my laptop lol
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  • [22:09:55] <rocky|quadcopter> oh. right. I need to disable the hdmi cape
  • [22:10:33] <toxmeister> hiya, could someone please advice on what's currently the best source to download latest Angstrom images for orig beaglebone? Primary (http://downloads.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beaglebone) repeatedly drops connection after ~50%, S3 mirror full of broken links, Beagleboard mirror itself a 404... what gives?
  • [22:14:12] <veremit> wouldn't go for angstrom anymore toxmeister .. debian is the new build
  • [22:14:22] <veremit> although .. original beagle?
  • [22:14:48] <veremit> might be caught out there
  • [22:15:31] <toxmeister> veremit: thx, has it got cloud9 pre-installed too? (i know it's easy to install, but this isn't for me...)
  • [22:15:54] <veremit> no idea I'm afraid
  • [22:16:08] <toxmeister> why would debian not work on orig BB?
  • [22:16:25] <veremit> absolutely no reason .. that I can think of .. processor the same :)
  • [22:17:08] <toxmeister> will give that a go... merci!
  • [22:18:04] <veremit> be warned .. I have beenknown to be wrong .. lol :D
  • [22:18:34] <veremit> without Mr Kridner .. I don' tknow what he Official Beagle line is .. lol
  • [22:20:49] * veremit snickers and heads to kitchen to make coffee
  • [22:24:16] <rocky|quadcopter> yay, the pru is working!
  • [22:24:23] <rocky|quadcopter> not on rcn's build, I haven't tried that yet
  • [22:26:58] <rocky|quadcopter> veremit: does rcn have stuff for booting off of emmc?
  • [22:27:07] <veremit> as in?
  • [22:27:29] <veremit> he's got a script at the bottom for copying uSD to eMMC .. since you install to uSD in the first place
  • [22:27:30] <rocky|quadcopter> installing the system to emmc instead of the sd card. I'm not entirely sure what to do differently
  • [22:27:38] <rocky|quadcopter> oh. derp.
  • [22:27:41] <veremit> :)
  • [22:28:11] <rocky|quadcopter> I judged it too quickly. I thought it was just for mounting the emmc
  • [22:28:14] <veremit> so .. I boot up, ssh in .. scp the script .. run it
  • [22:28:31] <veremit> Aaaaaand wait :D
  • [22:29:00] <veremit> its not too bad .. I think he lights all the LEDs at the end as before
  • [22:29:10] <rocky|quadcopter> ok
  • [22:29:13] <veremit> you just gotta remember to power cycle it .. but there's a message about that
  • [22:30:28] <rocky|quadcopter> Does he have prebuilt images?
  • [22:30:38] <veremit> not that I know of ..
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  • [22:31:03] <veremit> but I was under the impression he was involved in the debian transition
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  • [22:32:43] <rocky|quadcopter> he does
  • [22:32:50] <rocky|quadcopter> at least it appears so
  • [22:35:31] <rocky|quadcopter> veremit: https://rcn-ee.net/deb/rootfs/wheezy/
  • [22:35:44] <veremit> prob no kernel?
  • [22:35:47] <rocky|quadcopter> they contain scripts for setting up an sd card
  • [22:35:50] <veremit> ah
  • [22:36:01] <veremit> I've never really dug around
  • [22:36:02] <veremit> or tested any
  • [22:36:11] <veremit> when I build myself I know what I'm using :)
  • [22:36:12] <rocky|quadcopter> well I'm about to test it
  • [22:36:28] <veremit> although I wish he hadn't tagged every driver under the sun + more ... but I heard his argument out lol
  • [22:36:30] <rocky|quadcopter> I want to avoid that as much as possible to keep the guide simple
  • [22:36:41] <veremit> sure
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  • [22:38:44] <rocky|quadcopter> why is it still syncing. There is no dirty mem
  • [22:40:07] <rocky|quadcopter> let's see if it boots!
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  • [22:43:34] <rocky|quadcopter> looks like it did, though it appears to be truly minimal. No ssh yet
  • [22:43:43] <rocky|quadcopter> no uio_pruss
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  • [22:44:06] <rocky|quadcopter> not even anything for ethernet!
  • [22:44:09] <rocky|quadcopter> wow
  • [22:44:17] <rocky|quadcopter> a bit too minimal if you ask me
  • [22:44:42] <rocky|quadcopter> though I might just need to rtfm
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  • [22:48:29] <veremit> lol
  • [22:48:38] <veremit> pruss probably not there .. ethernet and ssh are
  • [22:48:42] <veremit> in the images I've used
  • [22:49:28] <rocky|quadcopter> not in this one :/
  • [22:49:35] <rocky|quadcopter> bleh
  • [22:49:54] <rocky|quadcopter> I'm gonna go fly the damn thing
  • [22:50:04] <veremit> hehehe
  • [22:50:11] <veremit> sure you'll figure it :D
  • [22:50:51] <rocky|quadcopter> nope, one of my teammates removed the hardware attatching the bone to the quad.
  • [22:51:02] <rocky|quadcopter> it is not apparent where he put it
  • [22:51:16] <veremit> ooops
  • [22:53:45] <rocky|quadcopter> veremit: pm?
  • [22:53:51] <veremit> sure
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