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  • [00:00:22] * Set by KotH!~attila@lou-outside.kinali.ch on Fri Apr 18 13:56:18 UTC 2014
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  • [00:01:57] <agmlego> Why not?
  • [00:02:34] <agmlego> Also, probably for the same reason you run an RTOS on any other hardware.
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  • [00:09:56] <owl-v-> rtos >> http://www.beagleboard.org/project/QNX+Neutrino+on+OMAP/
  • [00:10:37] <owl-v-> Brewsparks: i mean where do u need it for?
  • [00:11:22] <Brewsparks> I need a light weight pre-emptive scheduler for some control code
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  • [00:14:49] <owl-v-> Brewsparks: i don't see am335x chip here, but u can port freertos. and if u do, please share with us ;) >> http://www.freertos.org/RTOS_ports.html
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  • [00:21:00] <agmlego> Brewsparks: And RT_PREEMPT is not sufficient?
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  • [00:30:42] <nyt-> fml
  • [00:30:43] <nyt-> sitting here
  • [00:30:51] <nyt-> wondering why this magnetometer isnt working
  • [00:30:55] <nyt-> software compass
  • [00:31:03] <nyt-> i realize im working in a room directly above my theater
  • [00:31:10] <nyt-> which has massive speaker stacks and magnets
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  • [00:31:13] <nyt-> friggen thing was working fine
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  • [00:35:23] <Brewsparks> I guess I can't say that the RT_PREEMPT patch is not sufficient from a timing perspective. I have been working on a project using FreeRTOS on a dsPIC33 for a while and was curious to see if any one had tried to port it to the bbb.
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  • [00:38:56] <bpetersen> I have a BBB and I want to use the SPI (preferabley with Python) anyone have suggestions on how to get it working. (Right now I am trying to use Adafruit python module but the MOSI (P9_21) is constantly outputting ~1.78V)
  • [00:39:35] <agmlego> PySPI worked OK for me.
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  • [00:40:13] <agmlego> Er, py-spi
  • [00:40:41] <agmlego> I am using spi-2 though.
  • [00:40:58] <bpetersen> spi-2?
  • [00:41:16] <agmlego> Yeah, the third SPI bus.
  • [00:41:24] <agmlego> As opposed to spi-0 or spi-1
  • [00:41:33] <bpetersen> on BeagleBoneBlack?
  • [00:41:53] <agmlego> No, on the white one, but IIRC, they have the same number of busses.
  • [00:44:29] <Crofton> discoverable buses?
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  • [00:45:33] <levxus> hi
  • [00:46:08] <bpetersen> Hey
  • [00:47:14] <levxus> excuse me, i have a dude about a beagle
  • [00:48:52] <bpetersen> a beagle about a dude?
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  • [01:01:41] <shawnbon206_> hello
  • [01:02:18] <shawnbon206_> i am designing a case, but i dont habe my bbb yet. can anyone tell me how much the stuff on the bottom ob the board sticks out?
  • [01:03:35] <shawnbon206_> like .1625" clearance right now but i want to go smaller
  • [01:03:57] <shawnbon206_> the model i got from GrabCAD didnt show any bosses on the bottom
  • [01:04:09] <shawnbon206_> but i know theres some
  • [01:04:22] <shawnbon206_> nyt-:
  • [01:04:27] <shawnbon206_> you have a caliper?
  • [01:04:53] <shawnbon206_> i expect you to anyways
  • [01:05:01] <shawnbon206_> you seem like the type
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  • [01:07:37] <shawnbon206_> http://papermint-designs.com/community/files/images/beaglebone_black_up_and_running.preview.jpg
  • [01:07:48] <shawnbon206_> i need to know the clearance height of that thing
  • [01:08:07] <shawnbon206_> on the bottom
  • [01:08:50] <agmlego> Or just look at the myriad beaglebone black cases out there and use their dimensions?
  • [01:09:11] <agmlego> Or look at the several 3D CAD models of the bone, in all sorts of formats, discoverable via Google?
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  • [01:10:17] <shawnbon206_> agmlego: i told you, I already looked
  • [01:10:26] <agmlego> Did you.
  • [01:10:30] <shawnbon206_> yes
  • [01:10:39] <shawnbon206_> maybe you dont know what GrabCAD is
  • [01:11:13] <shawnbon206_> agmlego: you dont want to answer then stay out of it
  • [01:11:18] <agmlego> And you were unable to find, on the entire Internet, any other beaglebone cases at all? Not one solitary 3D model of the bone? Nowhere a listing of the BOM of the bone so you could find the component datasheet for the device you are concerned about clearance around?
  • [01:11:25] <agmlego> Nothing?
  • [01:11:41] <agmlego> I think you need to figure out who is spoofing Google for you and tell them to let you use the real one.
  • [01:11:55] <shawnbon206_> no, there were models with parts missing with accurate hole locations, then models with nothing missing but inaccurate dimensions
  • [01:12:10] <shawnbon206_> there were none which were complere
  • [01:12:12] <shawnbon206_> complete
  • [01:12:18] <agmlego> How do you know the dimensions are inaccurate if you do not have a unit in front of you?
  • [01:12:37] <shawnbon206_> because they contradict each other
  • [01:12:49] <agmlego> Indeed.
  • [01:12:50] <shawnbon206_> i cross referenced the models and documentation
  • [01:13:13] <shawnbon206_> i am not going to base my measurments off a potentially wrong model
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  • [01:13:14] <agmlego> ::shrugs::
  • [01:13:25] <shawnbon206_> so i ask people i trust instead
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  • [01:13:51] <shawnbon206_> i dont need to convince you, nor do i want to
  • [01:14:00] <shawnbon206_> i looked, for a few hours
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  • [01:14:27] <shawnbon206_> and the model i picked to base off of has accurate dimensions and locations for everything on the top
  • [01:14:59] <shawnbon206_> i dont want to use another case dimensions because i am trying to make it compact as possible
  • [01:15:15] <shawnbon206_> i would be limited to the compactness of that case if i did that
  • [01:16:02] <shawnbon206_> http://media.digikey.com/pdf/Catalog%20Drawings/Connectors/UX60-MB-5S8.jpg agmlego i am expecting it to be 3,95 mm
  • [01:16:46] <shawnbon206_> +/- .05mm
  • [01:19:37] <shawnbon206_> based on that i am only .007" away from it at this point
  • [01:20:38] <mrpackethead> hows the wars folks.
  • [01:29:21] <shawnbon206_> https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B0XzvqNi9HIdM0dZS3VHVDlwQWM&usp=sharing
  • [01:29:29] <shawnbon206_> here is my rough draft
  • [01:30:47] <shawnbon206_> gonna chamfer the bosses and put bores on the outsides for rubber feet
  • [01:31:31] <shawnbon206_> it uses hex standoffs but the tops and bottoms are going to be CNC
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  • [01:32:42] <shawnbon206_> guess i will countersink one side for the screws to be flush
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  • [03:37:13] <mrpackethead> hello freiundly beaglers!
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  • [03:42:17] <shawnbon206_> https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B0XzvqNi9HIdM0dZS3VHVDlwQWM&usp=sharing
  • [03:42:28] <shawnbon206_> ok getting closer^
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  • [03:52:12] <mrpackethead> shawnbon206: some kind of 3d model?
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  • [03:52:43] <mrpackethead> did you create the 3d model yourself?
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  • [04:15:26] <shawnbon206> mrpackethead yes i am going to machine that
  • [04:15:36] <shawnbon206> i made the model
  • [04:15:44] <mrpackethead> what mateirals?
  • [04:16:40] <shawnbon206> probably 6061
  • [04:16:53] <shawnbon206> whatever i can find though
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  • [04:17:49] <shawnbon206> i might pocket out the top, put some kinda design there
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  • [04:18:09] <shawnbon206> this is just rough model i will finish it later i am tired
  • [04:18:37] <shawnbon206> it takes 4-40 Phillips machine screw
  • [04:19:26] <shawnbon206> the bottom machine screws will be thread locked on (purple loctite)
  • [04:19:52] <shawnbon206> so the top ones can be loosened without the standoffs turning
  • [04:21:00] <shawnbon206> for easy access
  • [04:21:03] <shawnbon206> :D
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  • [06:24:33] <iondarie> hello
  • [06:25:01] <iondarie> anyone here ?
  • [06:29:17] <LetoThe2nd> no
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  • [06:54:37] <shawnbon206> hello
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  • [07:06:22] <sachin> Hi All, I have BBB, I am connected to BBB using ethernet. I have given fixed IP through server for board mac address. Now as I am already in BBB. I have installed linux-kernel header and kernel devel. I want to do some changes in my mmc driver.
  • [07:07:13] <sachin> for this do I need download and z image. Any suggestions are welcome. I am new to kernel programming. I have tried hello kernel code building on board. able to insert as module for hello kernel code.
  • [07:09:00] <LetoThe2nd> well whats the problem?
  • [07:09:30] <sachin> How to get mmc driver source and build kernel.
  • [07:09:40] <LetoThe2nd> mmc driver source is in the kernel.
  • [07:09:41] <sachin> root@beaglebone:~# uname -a
  • [07:09:41] <sachin> Linux beaglebone 3.8.13 #1 SMP Thu Sep 12 10:27:06 CEST 2013 armv7l GNU/Linux
  • [07:09:41] <sachin> root@beaglebone:~#
  • [07:09:45] <LetoThe2nd> usual build rules apply.
  • [07:09:57] <LetoThe2nd> alternatively, you can just crossompile
  • [07:10:02] <sachin> sorry but how to get mmc source and compile it.
  • [07:10:05] <tbr> installation will depend on the distro running
  • [07:10:20] <sachin> I am running angstrom
  • [07:11:00] <LetoThe2nd> well then get the kernel source tree.
  • [07:11:37] <tbr> angstrom kernel workflow is well described
  • [07:11:55] <sachin> http://beagleboard.org/linux
  • [07:12:09] <sachin> is this link steps will help to checkout source
  • [07:12:42] * tbr wonders why sachin wants to rebuild the kernel if he has no experience with it.
  • [07:12:58] <LetoThe2nd> on a first glance this page looks good
  • [07:14:10] <sachin> so with this page I will download source code and I will able to build specific module , am I right ?
  • [07:14:47] <LetoThe2nd> sachin: no you are wrong. this page gives a person that knows how to do things the necessary, beagle-specific knowledge
  • [07:15:16] <LetoThe2nd> that does *not* necessarily mean that it is enough for *you*
  • [07:15:46] <LetoThe2nd> sachin: you should really learn how to configure and build a kernel basically first.
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  • [07:16:15] <Rotti> hi
  • [07:16:23] <tbr> mooo
  • [07:16:33] <sachin> Ok Understood. Any link or any suggestions are welcome. I have alredy tried to browse lot of link but all tries to explain zImage build process not any specific kernel module.
  • [07:16:52] <LetoThe2nd> sachin: because it does not work like that.
  • [07:16:55] <tbr> because that goes hand in hand
  • [07:17:13] <LetoThe2nd> sachin: you always have to build all together. the modules have to fit the zImage.
  • [07:17:44] <LetoThe2nd> so: really learn the basics first!
  • [07:17:49] <sachin> Ok I tried helloKernel which just print on load when i insmod hello.ko
  • [07:18:13] <sachin> so through similalrly I will try and build mmc driver ko
  • [07:18:28] <LetoThe2nd> *sigh*
  • [07:18:31] <LetoThe2nd> well whatever.
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  • [07:19:46] <tbr> sachin: if you don't want help, that's fine, just don't ask for it.
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  • [07:20:57] <sachin> Please I need help.
  • [07:21:29] <sachin> Ok so as per your suggestion I will download linux kernel source for BBB
  • [07:21:40] <sachin> and then try compile whole together.
  • [07:21:46] <LetoThe2nd> then do what we told you. get the complete kernel sources and learn how to build it all together. then, learn how to run it.
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  • [07:23:41] <sachin> Ok sure. Lets say I have build it all together. Then what need to install on board. So whole kernel together or how it will be.
  • [07:24:03] <LetoThe2nd> *sigh*
  • [07:24:33] <LetoThe2nd> just make sure you can buld/run your own zImage, please.
  • [07:25:18] <sachin> Ok Sure. Thanks for help so with help of linux kernel source I need to build and final output will be zImage. which I need install.
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  • [07:45:10] <sachin> @tbr, sorry for late reply. I dont want to build kernel. main intention is add some feature in mmc driver.
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  • [07:46:50] <tbr> sachin: yes and we told you how to do that. you ignored it and you continue to have a problem.
  • [07:48:16] <sachin> I am not sure which problem you ar talking but LetoThe2nd gave me information about download kernel source and now I am checking out from http://beagleboard.org/linux
  • [07:48:48] <tbr> we told you to search for the angstrom linux kernel workflow
  • [07:49:30] <sachin> somehow I missed it, I will search for kernel workflow as well. Thanks for reminding.
  • [07:52:58] <sachin> Any idea about how much size of beagleboard/kernel.
  • [07:53:11] <sachin> It is getting downloaded ,
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  • [08:38:49] <Stee> Hello ! Can I disable VDD_3V3EXP on my BB ?
  • [08:39:12] <LetoThe2nd> Stee: I don't think so, but the schematics will certainly tell you.
  • [08:40:36] <Stee> Ok :( I took a look, but i didn't find how
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  • [09:11:23] <sachin> Hi LetoThe2nd, I have download linux kernel and executed following steps. now it is compling.
  • [09:11:34] <sachin> git clone git://github.com/beagleboard/kernel.git && cd kernel
  • [09:11:34] <sachin> git checkout 3.8
  • [09:11:34] <sachin> ./patch.sh
  • [09:11:34] <sachin> downloaded am335x-pm-firmware.bin from http://arago-project.org/git/projects/?p=am33x-cm3.git;a=tree;f=bin
  • [09:11:34] <sachin> copy it to kernel/firmware
  • [09:11:36] <sachin> cp bin-am335x-pm-firmware.bin /home/sachin/greenzone/source/kernel/kernel/firmware
  • [09:11:38] <sachin> cd kernel
  • [09:11:40] <sachin> cp ../configs/beaglebone .config
  • [09:11:42] <sachin> sudo apt-get install gcc-arm-linux-gnueabi
  • [09:11:44] <sachin> make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux-gnueabi- uImage dtbs
  • [09:13:12] <sachin> now how to run uImage on BBB
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  • [09:56:34] <nyt-> shawnbon206_: i have multiple, and bunches of mics
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  • [09:57:57] <Rahul_> Hello every1
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  • [09:58:25] <Rahul_> hav run into a bit of a issue.. my BBB refuses to boot
  • [09:58:55] <Rahul_> it gets stuck at searching for Btrfs while booting..
  • [10:03:28] <Rahul_> ?
  • [10:05:01] <LetoThe2nd> since when? running which image?
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  • [10:15:53] <sachin> I have built beagleboard kernel using gcc-arm-linux-gnueabi by installing (sudo apt-get install gcc-arm-linux-gnueabi), will it work or I need to install toolchain like angstrom-2011.03-x86_64-linux-armv7a-linux-gnueabi-toolchain-qte-4.6.3.tar.bz2
  • [10:16:04] <sachin> I have angstorm on my BBB
  • [10:21:17] <owl-v-_> where u compiling in?
  • [10:21:43] <owl-v-_> where u compiling from?
  • [10:22:36] <owl-v-_> sachin: u can use default apt's arm-gcc
  • [10:22:48] <sachin> I am compiling on ubuntu 13.10
  • [10:23:18] <sachin> Ok Thank you so default installed sudo apt-get install gcc-arm-linux-gnueabi
  • [10:23:22] <sachin> is enough right .
  • [10:23:46] <owl-v-_> yes
  • [10:24:02] <sachin> Thanks.
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